The Ben Shapiro Show - June 17, 2026


JD Vance Press Tour


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00:00:00.000 Vice President JD Vance is undeniably a talented politician.
00:00:03.000 Yesterday, he went on The View to pitch his new book, and he showed why it's always pretty funny when a dude with a 130 plus IQ has conversations publicly with people who barely crack triple digits.
00:00:14.000 But we'll also get to the rest of Vice President Vance's day, defending an Iran deal that looks increasingly not great, appearing with Megyn Kelly to make overtures to Tucker Carlson, and prepping for a photo op on Friday with, you know, a mass murderer from Iran.
00:00:28.000 Yeah, it's kind of a mixed bag.
00:00:35.000 Okay, so let's begin with the fun part, okay?
00:00:37.000 Because we'll get to the not fun part in a little bit, but let's start with the fun part.
00:00:40.000 So, yesterday, the vice president appeared on The View and he made mincemeat out of them.
00:00:43.000 Now, admittedly, this isn't exactly like boxing Mike Tyson in his prime.
00:00:50.000 It's kind of like fighting Mike Tyson now.
00:00:54.000 But the VP is particularly good when he is put up against people in these sorts of scenarios.
00:01:00.000 He's good adversarially, he's very good in the debate with Tim Walz.
00:01:03.000 And again, the average IQ of The View is about the IQ of Tim Walz.
00:01:06.000 So it went very poorly for the ladies of The View.
00:01:09.000 So, for example, the ladies of The View started ripping on Trump about affordability, and the vice president handled them with aplomb.
00:01:17.000 What the president said is the idea that Republicans cause the affordability problem is a hoax.
00:01:23.000 And I think that's true.
00:01:24.000 If you go back to the Biden administration, inflation got up to 9% under the Biden administration.
00:01:29.000 Okay.
00:01:30.000 Right now it's at 3.5%.
00:01:32.000 By the way, too high.
00:01:33.000 We're doing everything that we can to bring it back down to 2.5%, which is where most people.
00:01:37.000 Would like to see it.
00:01:38.000 But we inherited an affordability problem.
00:01:41.000 We're doing a lot to make it better.
00:01:43.000 It's going to take a little bit of time.
00:01:44.000 There's a lot more work to do.
00:01:46.000 But the president knows that a lot of Americans are struggling.
00:01:48.000 In fact, he ran on that.
00:01:49.000 He talked about it.
00:01:50.000 And we've done some things and made some good progress on that point.
00:01:53.000 He just said he loves the inflation.
00:01:55.000 What he said, Anna, what he said is that he loves the fact that the inflation is going to come down when this war is over.
00:02:03.000 That's what he said.
00:02:05.000 Now, again, this is where the vice president is really good.
00:02:08.000 Again, his affect is open.
00:02:09.000 He's smiling the whole time.
00:02:10.000 He's being very calm.
00:02:11.000 This is where he's at his best.
00:02:13.000 He's also great when he's fact checking folks.
00:02:15.000 So here he was with Whoopi Goldberg.
00:02:17.000 Whoopi was again suggesting, as per her usual arrangement, that the Trump administration is racist.
00:02:21.000 She does not have any good examples.
00:02:25.000 What did black people do to this administration that has allowed it to really stigmatize folks of color?
00:02:37.000 And you know how hard it is.
00:02:40.000 You have folks of color in your family.
00:02:42.000 Sure.
00:02:43.000 So when you.
00:02:45.000 See, you know, things, the Emmett Till stuff coming down or them doing all kinds of removal of information of black heroes.
00:02:56.000 How do you, how do you, how does that sit with you?
00:03:01.000 Well, what exactly are you talking about, Whoopi?
00:03:03.000 Because you just wrote a little bit about Emmett Till.
00:03:05.000 I can tell you all this stuff.
00:03:07.000 No, no, I want to know what she's saying.
00:03:09.000 You don't know what I'm talking about.
00:03:10.000 So, in a lot of the, uh, Museums.
00:03:16.000 Museums.
00:03:17.000 There's so many.
00:03:18.000 I just, you know, where they're taking down the actual history that happened in this country.
00:03:27.000 Now, again, she can't name them because it isn't actually true.
00:03:27.000 Okay.
00:03:30.000 The reality is they've shifted around some of the displays, but it's not as though they are taking black heroes out of museums or anything like that.
00:03:37.000 And that is why when he asks her a simple question, like, what are you talking about?
00:03:40.000 There are just too many to name.
00:03:42.000 Too many to name is always you can't name one.
00:03:45.000 And of course, it went poorly for Whoopi when she asked about.
00:03:48.000 Catholicism and his border politics.
00:03:50.000 Here was the vice president.
00:03:53.000 You talk a lot about your Catholic faith, but the Catholic faith says we take in immigrants.
00:04:02.000 We take in people who don't have or who are having a hard time.
00:04:08.000 How do you justify both things?
00:04:10.000 The Catholic faith is actually very, I think it strikes the right balance here.
00:04:16.000 It says, the Christian faith, I think this is true of Protestants and Catholics, that you can have borders.
00:04:21.000 You're allowed to enforce your borders.
00:04:22.000 That means the law enforcement piece of it.
00:04:24.000 But you also have to take certain precautions and certain care.
00:04:27.000 Okay.
00:04:28.000 And again, you know, your argument is fundamentally whoopee.
00:04:31.000 You're saying that we don't strike the right balance.
00:04:33.000 I disagree with you about how we apply that, but nobody, hopefully, is saying we're not allowed to have a border.
00:04:39.000 What I'm saying is that in order for us to actually enforce the law, you can't set a standard that says you're not allowed to deport anyone unless they've committed a violent crime.
00:04:49.000 You've got to enforce the law equally.
00:04:52.000 Again, this is where Vance did his best when he is explaining in moderate and calm fashion.
00:04:57.000 Basic Republican policy.
00:04:58.000 He is great.
00:04:59.000 I mean, he did this with Tim Walz, and again, he's doing it there with Whoopi Goldberg.
00:05:02.000 And he is calling her on the fact that essentially she's arguing for zero borders at all.
00:05:06.000 And then he went on the offensive with the ladies of the view, and he went after Joe Biden's open border policies.
00:05:14.000 The majority of people that ICE is rounding up and taking out of their homes from their families, they're separating families, they're using children as bait.
00:05:23.000 But the majority are not criminals.
00:05:25.000 But can I respond to that?
00:05:26.000 Let me just say this.
00:05:28.000 Okay.
00:05:28.000 So you talk about the children.
00:05:30.000 Here's what I'd say.
00:05:31.000 Do we know that during the last administration, we had tens of thousands of children who were sex trafficked by the cartels, who were brought into our country in profoundly dangerous and predatory conditions?
00:05:44.000 Let's talk about this administration.
00:05:46.000 But here's the point unless you enforce the border, you invite that kind of conduct.
00:05:51.000 You think that our immigration policies are inhumane based on the reporting of one person with a political bias.
00:05:57.000 What I'm telling you is that it's inhumane to allow cartels to sex traffic people across our border.
00:06:05.000 Again, this is very good stuff from the vice president.
00:06:07.000 And of course, Anna Navarro was getting more and more and more agitated.
00:06:11.000 Some of the ladies of the view were kind of into JD Vance, you can tell Joy Behar was kind of into it.
00:06:15.000 Anna Navarro, not so much.
00:06:18.000 There is no evidence that Maduro was releasing people from insane asylums or jails like Fidel Castro did do.
00:06:25.000 This was made up, and we just can't accept it without pushing back.
00:06:29.000 But Anna, we know that there were people who were released from prisons who were encouraged to come into the United States.
00:06:33.000 Mr. Vice President, it wasn't where it was like a purposeful release, open up the jails, open up the insane asylums, and let people flood Florida.
00:06:41.000 I lived through that in Miami.
00:06:42.000 If you go, it may not have been like Marielle, but if you go back to the caravans that were happening in 22, 23, we know that those things were funded.
00:06:50.000 They were in some ways supported by the government.
00:06:52.000 So I don't know how you define support or not support, but if people are encouraged to come into our country after having spent time in prison by their own governments, I think that's a problem.
00:07:04.000 Now, the ladies of the view thought they had vans.
00:07:04.000 Okay.
00:07:07.000 By quoting old things that he had said about President Trump way back when, 2015, 2016.
00:07:12.000 And Vance made the obvious point that you can change your mind when you realize you're wrong.
00:07:17.000 It's been well covered that I was a critic of Donald Trump back in 2015 and 2016.
00:07:21.000 Now, obviously, I'm sitting here as the Vice President of the United States in the Trump administration.
00:07:26.000 Well, Joy, a little humility, actually.
00:07:29.000 I think that when you make predictions and those predictions turn out to be false, you got to ask yourself, well, what made me wrong about that?
00:07:35.000 What did I not understand or not appreciate?
00:07:38.000 For example, I said that Donald Trump's economic policies would not lead to wage growth.
00:07:43.000 They did in the first term.
00:07:45.000 That was actually a major, major thing.
00:07:47.000 I said that we couldn't bring back any of those factory jobs because I kind of had given in to this idea that those jobs were disappearing.
00:07:53.000 But actually, Donald Trump, you saw a manufacturing boom during that administration.
00:07:58.000 So there's a certain point where you say, you know, I made predictions about this.
00:08:06.000 I ended up being wrong.
00:08:07.000 And in politics and anything, I think it's important to just say, you know what?
00:08:11.000 I got some things wrong and I was wrong about him.
00:08:14.000 Okay, again, all of this is fine and all of this is good.
00:08:17.000 This is what the vice president is very good at.
00:08:19.000 All right, coming up, the vice president didn't spend his whole day, you know, beating up on the imbeciles at The View.
00:08:25.000 He also spent a lot of the day defending this deal with Iran.
00:08:28.000 And here is where things take a turn.
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00:10:36.000 And now the administration seems to be playing and vice president Vance, who is the chief negotiator.
00:10:41.000 Make no mistake.
00:10:41.000 The vice president was the chief negotiator here.
00:10:44.000 He and Steve Woodcock and Jared Kushner were the guys negotiating the deal.
00:10:46.000 They're the ones who allegedly are doing all the background briefings.
00:10:49.000 They're doing all of the public defense of the deal.
00:10:51.000 Vance is the lead on this.
00:10:53.000 JD Vance is playing a bit of a game here when it comes to how this deal ought to be perceived.
00:10:58.000 So.
00:10:59.000 Just a couple of days ago, on June 12, it was five days ago, he was going after people who were critical about rumors of the deal.
00:11:06.000 And we've been saying this entire time, the entire time, we weren't going to judge the deal until we saw the text.
00:11:11.000 We could judge the tea leaves.
00:11:12.000 We could judge the comments that were being made about the deal.
00:11:16.000 We could talk about the media reports.
00:11:17.000 But on June 12, the vice president said, You can't, you're not allowed.
00:11:21.000 You should stop paying attention to quote unquote unconfirmed media reports or to the things the Iranians are saying on their social media posts.
00:11:29.000 Apparently, we should believe what IRGC is pledging to the United States.
00:11:33.000 In terms of nuclear development or opening the straight, but we shouldn't believe what they say in social media, but fine.
00:11:40.000 So the vice president was making the case that until we see the text, we shouldn't judge.
00:11:44.000 Well, now the text is pretty obviously out.
00:11:47.000 JD Vance said that they'd not yet released the text because of diplomatic sensitivities in the Muslim world.
00:11:52.000 Well, that's weird because you know who actually has released the text Al Arabiya, which is a Saudi outlet, Murs, which is an Iranian outlet.
00:12:00.000 It seems like the administration is the party that is very, very reluctant to release the text.
00:12:05.000 So here he was literally yesterday saying that the reason that the text hasn't been released yet, he doesn't really know.
00:12:12.000 It's all a mystery.
00:12:13.000 Here we go.
00:12:15.000 The reason why we haven't released it yet is there are some delicate diplomatic things going on where the Iranians, and not just the Iranians, but some of our mediators, the Pakistanis and the Qataris, have asked us to sequence this in the right way.
00:12:28.000 I don't, frankly, fully understand it, but there are sensitivities that exist in the Arab and Muslim world that we're trying to be responsive to.
00:12:36.000 Fundamentally, does it really matter if the deal comes out on Wednesday versus Friday?
00:12:40.000 No.
00:12:41.000 That's why we haven't emphasized it so much, is because at the very latest, the text is going to be out on Friday.
00:12:48.000 I mean, the answer is yes.
00:12:49.000 Yes, it actually does matter quite an awful lot because there is a public photo op scheduled between the vice president of the United States and a mass murdering terror leader named Mohammed Khalibaf on Friday in Switzerland.
00:12:59.000 So, JD Vance appears on Megyn Kelly's podcast.
00:13:01.000 Remember, as we'll get to, Megyn Kelly is a person who has said that the Israelis manipulated the administration into war, who has laughed along to the proposition that the Republican Party is a bunch of Israel loving pedophiles.
00:13:13.000 This is where the vice president chose to retail the argument.
00:13:16.000 So, the vice president says that actually the only reason that people would oppose the deal is because they want endless conflict.
00:13:23.000 Well, let's hear what he has to say.
00:13:29.000 I think that fundamentally, if you look at what they're proposing, they're proposing an endless conflict.
00:13:36.000 They want this to go on until every bomb has been dropped or until every Iranian is dead.
00:13:42.000 That is not what the president of the United States wants.
00:13:44.000 What he said is I set about this to end their nuclear program, to eliminate their ability to threaten their neighbors and project power, and to fundamentally.
00:13:54.000 Make sure that no future child would have to deal with a terrorist regime with an atomic bomb.
00:14:00.000 That's why the president set out to do this.
00:14:03.000 He feels, and he's right, that he's accomplished that goal, and now we can get to the negotiation to see what are the other benefits that we can get from this, and frankly, what are the benefits the Iranians could get from this if they behave.
00:14:14.000 I just don't think that people who are criticizing this, one, they're not actually dealing with the reality of what's in it, and number two, they don't have an alternative.
00:14:24.000 If your alternative is just to drop bombs without any clear goal, Or any clear American interest implicated, then you're not making the wise decisions on behalf of the American people.
00:14:37.000 Well, an entire field of straw man is now burning because this is what we colloquially call a lie.
00:14:44.000 This is a lie.
00:14:46.000 An endless conflict would be, say, a 47 year conflict with an intransigent, radical Islamist enemy that wants to destroy America.
00:14:54.000 Some of us have been calling for the president to end this war quickly, like from the beginning.
00:14:59.000 I've been saying for literally months that instead of signing on to a useless ceasefire, we ought to take or bomb Kharga Island, open the straits with operations like Project Freedom, which the president announced and then unannounced, and then leave Overwatch to our allies like Israel and the UAE.
00:15:14.000 That is not an endless war.
00:15:17.000 You know what an endless war looks like?
00:15:18.000 It looks like a bad deal.
00:15:20.000 You know how I know that?
00:15:20.000 Because Barack Obama did it, and that war didn't end.
00:15:23.000 And now JD Vance is pushing one, and the war ain't ended.
00:15:26.000 You want to make sure that you have an endless war?
00:15:28.000 An endless war looks like pouring.
00:15:30.000 Hundreds of billions of dollars in unfrozen funds into a terror supporting and nuclear weapons seeking sworn enemy of the United States in an attempt to get them to open up a strait that was open before the war started.
00:15:43.000 If that's the deal, and we'll get to whether that's the deal in a second, that would guarantee chaos and war for at least a generation.
00:15:50.000 And again, the vice president is now burning straw men.
00:15:52.000 He is making the identical case to the case that Barack Obama made in 2015, which is either buy my crap deal or you want endless war.
00:16:01.000 It was a lie then, it is a lie now, it is not true.
00:16:04.000 And if you're relegated to lying about your opposition in order to sell a bad deal, that means the deal is even worse than what you are pitching.
00:16:11.000 So, in the end, the only good argument that the American people should accept is that this is a good deal.
00:16:18.000 So, the vice president, again, the architect of these negotiations and the front man and the point man for them, is making the case that actually the deal is awesome and we got what we came for.
00:16:27.000 I think this is what is fundamentally different from Trump's foreign policy compared to.
00:16:34.000 You know, Barack Obama's or George W. Bush's is we will empower people on the ground who yearn to breathe free, but we're not going to force them to do what, you know, we're not going to force them to elect their own government.
00:16:48.000 What we're going to do is pursue our best interests.
00:16:50.000 And what did the United States want out of this?
00:16:52.000 We wanted an Iran that didn't have a nuclear weapon.
00:16:55.000 We wanted an Iran that had a conventional military that was not able to threaten its allies in the region.
00:17:01.000 And that's what we got.
00:17:02.000 And so the president is saying we accomplished what we wanted to accomplish, we accomplished what we needed to.
00:17:07.000 I think it's actually a great virtue and wisdom of the president's foreign policy that he's now saying, you know what?
00:17:14.000 Now we're going to go do something else that's not related to our core national security objectives.
00:17:18.000 He's saying, we got what we came for.
00:17:21.000 Let's negotiate with these guys to see if they're willing to change their behavior.
00:17:24.000 And if not, we still got what we came for fundamentally.
00:17:28.000 Okay, so we got what we came for.
00:17:30.000 It's over whether they give us more or whether they don't, according to the vice president.
00:17:33.000 So let's analyze whether that's true.
00:17:35.000 Again, we are going to base this analysis on the released text.
00:17:39.000 Which are substantially the same.
00:17:40.000 We'll work off the Bloomberg released text.
00:17:43.000 If the administration wishes for us to work off a different text, they can release that text at literally any time.
00:17:48.000 At any time.
00:17:50.000 And if there are differences from the text that has been released, perhaps they should explain what those differences are.
00:17:55.000 Because again, I'm not going to buy the idea that the Iranian government doesn't want the text released because they are afraid of what their own population is going to do.
00:18:04.000 But somehow you have no obligation to the American people to release the text on a deal that supposedly ends a war and creates a ground shifting new model in the Middle East.
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