The Ben Shapiro Show - Jimmy Kimmel On The Chopping Block AGAIN?!

00:00:00.000 Jimmy Kimmel is America's poster child for all idiotic political discourse. 1.00

00:00:04.000 Long ago, Jimmy Kimmel ditched comedy in favor of smug lectures and clapdor and fake tears. 1.00

00:00:10.000 He's not funny.

00:00:11.000 He's not clever. 0.87

00:00:12.000 He's just an annoying left wing agitprop creator.

00:00:15.000 But when Jimmy Kimmel and his ilk on the left and in the legacy media start pushing genuinely conspiratorial speech, their rhetoric is no longer just about bad jokes on the TV.

00:00:25.000 So should Jimmy Kimmel be on the unemployment line?

00:00:27.000 Why is political violence exploding in the country?

00:00:30.000 And why is the bulk of it coming from the left?

00:00:33.000 Yes, not the right, the left.

00:00:35.000 Well, it might have something to do with the mainstream left embracing terror supporters, conspiracy theorists, and people who justify murder.

00:00:41.000 But we need to dig even a little deeper.

00:00:43.000 What precisely is the kind of speech that promotes violence?

00:00:46.000 The First Amendment protects, of course, a huge variety of speech.

00:00:49.000 That doesn't mean there shouldn't be social consequences to how we do that speech.

00:00:53.000 So, what kind of speech deserves social consequences?

00:00:55.000 We'll get into all of that.

00:00:57.000 Plus, the impending collapse of California and maybe, maybe the collapse of the Iranian regime.

00:01:01.000 You're listening to the Ben Shapiro Show.

00:01:08.000 So, Jimmy Kimmel is possibly on the unemployment line soon.

00:01:11.000 And the reason for that is the administration is very upset at Jimmy Kimmel.

00:01:15.000 There's a lot of concern and consternation, and there should be, about violent rhetoric.

00:01:19.000 Yesterday, the Attorney General of the United States, Todd Blanchett, came out and, of course, condemned political violence.

00:01:25.000 And, of course, that political violence is not coming from nowhere.

00:01:29.000 I want to make this clear.

00:01:32.000 This man was a floor above the ballroom.

00:01:36.000 With hundreds of federal agents between him and the President of the United States.

00:01:44.000 The Department of Justice approaches incidents like this with urgency and clarity of purpose.

00:01:50.000 Violence has no place in civic life.

00:01:55.000 It cannot and will not be used to disrupt democratic institutions or intimidate those who serve them, and it certainly cannot continue to be used against the President of the United States.

00:02:08.000 Now, we do have information.

00:02:10.000 A lot of information about where this is coming from these days.

00:02:12.000 And the answer is mostly the political left.

00:02:15.000 So the Wall Street Journal has a big story today about the political orientation of the perpetrators of domestic attacks targeting the United States government.

00:02:24.000 These statistics, by the way, are wildly skewed in favor of the left.

00:02:27.000 In favor of the left.

00:02:28.000 I mean, the way you can tell this, by the way, is look at the year 2020.

00:02:32.000 If you look at the year 2020 on this particular graph, it actually shows more right-wing attacks against the government than left-wing attacks.

00:02:39.000 Uh, no.

00:02:40.000 Okay, the year 2020 featured the BLM riots, which were large scale attacks on law enforcement all over the United States.

00:02:47.000 And yet, somehow, the right sort of outnumbers the left on this particular chart.

00:02:51.000 But even the Wall Street Journal, using these bad stats from the Center for Strategic and International Studies, shows left wing extremist violence outnumbering right wing extremist violence in 2025.

00:03:04.000 Again, these stats are wildly wrong.

00:03:07.000 They're wildly wrong because these stats ignore the fact that, for example, The attempt to burn alive the governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro, in the governor's mansion, was perpetrated by a free Palestine extremist, meaning a member of the left.

00:03:21.000 But according to the Wall Street Journal, perpetrators often don't fit into neat categories.

00:03:25.000 Some attacks on U.S. political figures, like the one on Democratic Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, whose residence was set on fire last April, were allegedly motivated by events abroad.

00:03:34.000 Well, I'm confused.

00:03:35.000 Is motivation by events abroad foreign to American politics?

00:03:39.000 I think not.

00:03:40.000 Bottom line is absolutely 100%.

00:03:45.000 There is a problem on the left. 1.00

00:03:48.000 And again, I point to the fact that the latest Trump would be assassin called the president a pedophile, a rapist, and a traitor. 0.99

00:03:54.000 In a second, we'll get more into the violent speech of the left. 0.98

00:03:58.000 What kind of rhetoric is appropriate?

00:03:59.000 When is it appropriate?

00:04:00.000 Is all this rhetoric kind of the same? 0.63

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00:05:09.000 So, I want to discuss three basic standards when it comes to political speech in the United States.

00:05:14.000 First, there's the illegal.

00:05:16.000 There actually is illegal political speech in the United States. 0.85

00:05:19.000 If you say, I want to go kill the president of the United States, that's illegal.

00:05:24.000 It's incitement.

00:05:26.000 It's either incitement or it's an active threat.

00:05:28.000 It came out of your mouth, so it's a form of speech, but it is also an active threat. 0.97

00:05:32.000 If I say, you should go kill the president of the United States, That would be under the Brandenburg test. 0.98

00:05:36.000 That's a Supreme Court piece of precedent. 0.99

00:05:39.000 That would be incitement and illegal.

00:05:42.000 Incitement under that test is any speech that is intended to and likely to incite imminent lawless action. 0.98

00:05:47.000 So even if I say you should go kill the president, I'd probably have to say for it to be legal incitement, I want you to go kill the president right now. 0.99

00:05:54.000 Go kill the president. 0.99

00:05:55.000 If I said that, obviously I'm using this as an example. 1.00

00:05:58.000 No one should ever do political violence.

00:06:01.000 Then in that particular scenario, that would be incitement.

00:06:04.000 Then there is typical inflammatory rhetoric.

00:06:07.000 This would be stuff like fight, fight, fight.

00:06:09.000 Or, for example, the Sarah Palin map of districts back in 2010 or so that targeted particular congressional districts.

00:06:23.000 One of those districts that was targeted was the district of Gabby Giffords.

00:06:26.000 And the left tried to claim that because of that map, somebody tried to shoot Gabby Giffords. 0.96

00:06:29.000 That's silly. 0.99

00:06:31.000 That's silly. 0.98

00:06:31.000 And when people say we need to go to war with the Democrats or we need to go to war with the Republicans, is that the sort of thing? 0.98

00:06:37.000 That is going to lead to actual violence?

00:06:39.000 No, because that sort of rhetoric is pretty typical in politics.

00:06:42.000 A normal inflammatory rhetoric.

00:06:44.000 And we should not conflate that with incitement.

00:06:47.000 Just to be perfectly honest about this stuff, we should not.

00:06:50.000 And then there is the permission structure for violence we have been talking about a lot over the course of the last couple of years.

00:06:56.000 That's the stuff that's truly dangerous.

00:06:58.000 This is the conspiracism, the justification of violence. 0.99

00:07:01.000 This is how you get to crazy people thinking the president is a pedophile, meaning a threat to children, a rapist, meaning a threat to women, and a traitor, meaning a threat to the country. 0.97

00:07:10.000 And in charge of all of the systems of power, and therefore can only be stopped through violence. 0.96

00:07:16.000 That's the sort of stuff that we are talking about as truly, truly dangerous.

00:07:16.000 Right?

00:07:20.000 And conflating these things leads to confusion that leads to inaction.

00:07:25.000 Because if you try to lump in together, you know, we should go fight the Democrats, or we should go fight the Republicans with the Democrats are pedophilically attacking children at a pizzeria, or the President of the United States is running a pedophile grooming gang.

00:07:40.000 Those are not the same thing.

00:07:42.000 And treating them as the same thing leads to, I think, inaction, inability for us to agree on what is appropriate and what is inappropriate.

00:07:52.000 So, Caroline Lovett yesterday at the White House, I think, focused in properly on the types of speech that Cole Allen was engaged in, the kind of stuff that was driving him toward violent action.

00:08:02.000 Here she is talking about his manifesto.

00:08:05.000 The left wing cult of hatred against the president and all of those who support him and work for him has gotten multiple people hurt and killed, and it almost did so again this weekend.

00:08:19.000 And she pointed out correctly at the White House that it's deranged lies that lead crazy people to believe crazy things.

00:08:24.000 This is correct.

00:08:25.000 This is correct, by the way.

00:08:26.000 Again, largely on the left, but certainly not relegated to the left. 0.86

00:08:30.000 If somebody were to take a shot at Erica Kirk today, that would likely be because of conspiracy theories about Erica Kirk and nutty things being said about Erica Kirk.

00:08:40.000 When you create insane theories about people being corrupt and evil and using their power in corrupt and evil ways, and those conspiracy theories suggest those people are a threat to you, it is not a gigantic surprise when somebody tries an assassination.

00:08:54.000 Here was Caroline Lovett.

00:08:57.000 Just two days prior to the shooting, ABC's late night host Jimmy Kimmel disgustingly called First Lady Melania Trump an expectant widow. 0.98

00:09:05.000 Who in their right minds says a wife would be glowing over the potential murder of her beloved husband?

00:09:11.000 And having experienced what I did with the First Lady on Saturday night, I can tell you that she was anything but that.

00:09:17.000 This kind of rhetoric about the President, the First Lady, and his supporters is completely deranged, and it's unbelievable that the American people are consuming it night after night after night.

00:09:28.000 As President Trump said on Saturday night at this podium, we as Americans must recommit ourselves to resolving our differences peacefully and uniting around the shared values that make our country great.

00:09:40.000 The deranged lies and smears against the president, his family, his supporters have led crazy people to believe crazy things, and they are inspired to commit violence because of those words.

00:09:52.000 It has to stop.

00:09:55.000 Okay, so you hear Caroline Lovett there talking, the last part of what she's saying there.

00:09:59.000 That crazy lies lead people to believe crazy things, which leads them to do crazy things.

00:10:03.000 That part is true.

00:10:04.000 She lumps in Jimmy Kimmel there.

00:10:06.000 Okay, now let me be clear.

00:10:07.000 I think Jimmy Kimmel is awful. 0.97

00:10:08.000 I think he is terrible. 0.89

00:10:10.000 I think he's been terrible for over a decade, like well over a decade.

00:10:13.000 The first time I got in a public spat with Jimmy Kimmel is when he was defending socialized medicine on the basis that his child had an open heart surgery at Children's Hospital in LA.

00:10:22.000 And he did a very weepy monologue on his show about that.

00:10:25.000 I was less than sympathetic because my child had had a similar open heart surgery from the exact same surgeon, and that did not make me an expert on the healthcare system.

00:10:32.000 What makes you an expert? Is actually knowing things.

00:10:36.000 So I think Jimmy Kimmel's been terrible at his job for years.

00:10:38.000 I think that he has surrendered laughter in favor of clapter, applause from his left wing friends.

00:10:45.000 So if Jimmy Kimmel were to get fired, I would shed zero tears.

00:10:48.000 Zero.

00:10:49.000 I think that he is a propagandist.

00:10:50.000 I do not think that he is funny.

00:10:51.000 I think that he has sort of betrayed his audience in surrendering humor in favor of left wing agitprop.

00:10:59.000 But in this particular situation, I will say I think that if Jimmy Kimmel were to be fired over his comments about Melania again last Thursday, And again, listen, I'd be the first person to celebrate Jimmy Kimmel being on the unemployment line for being bad at his job and for some of the other things that he said.

00:11:17.000 But getting Jimmy Kimmel for saying what he said on Thursday is like getting Al Capone for tax evasion.

00:11:23.000 You're hitting him with the wrong charge.

00:11:26.000 So let's reverse time for a second.

00:11:28.000 Thursday night is before the latest assassination attempt on the president.

00:11:32.000 Jimmy Kimmel did a White House correspondence dinner spoof. 1.00

00:11:34.000 It is not funny, it is not entertaining, it is incredibly stupid. 1.00

00:11:37.000 And he makes a joke. 1.00

00:11:39.000 About Melania being an expectant widow.

00:11:40.000 I want to play the joke so you can see the context and decide for yourself what you think he's saying here. 0.89

00:11:46.000 Our first lady Melania is here. 1.00

00:11:48.000 Look at Melania.

00:11:49.000 So beautiful.

00:11:50.000 Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow.

00:11:56.000 Okay, so the Trump administration, after the attempted assassination, pointed out this joke.

00:12:03.000 President Trump put out a statement.

00:12:04.000 Jimmy Kimmel, who is in no way funny, as attested to by his terrible television ratings, made a statement on his show that is really shocking.

00:12:04.000 Wow.

00:12:10.000 He showed a fake video of the First Lady Melania and our son Barron, like they were actually sitting in his studio listening to him speak, which they weren't and never would be.

00:12:16.000 He then stated, Our First Lady Melania is here. 0.95

00:12:18.000 Look at Melania. 0.99

00:12:19.000 So beautiful.

00:12:20.000 Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow. 0.78

00:12:22.000 A day later, a lunatic tried entering the ballroom of the White House correspondence dinner, loaded up with a shotgun, handgun, and many knives. 0.83

00:12:28.000 He was there for a very obvious and sinister reason.

00:12:30.000 I appreciate that so many people are incensed by Kimmel's despicable call to violence and normally would not be responsive to anything that he said, but this is something far beyond the pale.

00:12:38.000 Jimmy Kimmel should be immediately fired by Disney and ABC.

00:12:40.000 Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Trump.

00:12:44.000 Melania Trump then followed up with her own tweet Kimmel's hateful and violent rhetoric is intended to divide our country.

00:12:49.000 His monologue about my family is in comedy.

00:12:52.000 His words are corrosive and deepen the political sickness within America.

00:12:55.000 People like Kimmel shouldn't have the opportunity to enter our homes each evening to spread hate.

00:12:59.000 A coward, Kimmel hides behind ABC because he knows the network will keep running cover to protect him. 0.65

00:13:03.000 Enough is enough. 0.92

00:13:04.000 It's time for ABC to take a stand.

00:13:06.000 How many times will ABC's leadership enable Kimmel's atrocious behavior at the expense of our community? 0.99

00:13:10.000 Now, listen, I think that Melania has every rationale for being super pissed at Jimmy Kimmel for being a scumbag. 0.99

00:13:17.000 And that is a scummy joke. 1.00

00:13:18.000 It's a scummy joke.

00:13:20.000 Because, again, the joke, I do not think that it is a call to violence.

00:13:25.000 I do not think that Jimmy Kimmel is saying someone should shoot the president there.

00:13:27.000 I think that what Jimmy Kimmel was joking about. 0.56

00:13:30.000 Was the idea, which is egregious enough, that Melania hates the president, would be happy if he were dead, could inherit his wealth.

00:13:36.000 I think that's what Kimmel is actually doing in that joke, which is pretty disgusting, but is not in fact a call to violence.

00:13:41.000 And in a second, I'm going to explain why Kimmel should have been fired long ago, actually.

00:13:46.000 But here was Jimmy Kimmel defending his joke.

00:13:49.000 Which obviously was a joke about their age difference and the look of joy we see on her face every time they're together.

00:14:00.000 It was a very light roast joke about.

00:14:02.000 The fact that he's almost 80 and she's younger than I am.

00:14:05.000 It was not, by any stretch of the definition, a call to assassination, and they know that.

00:14:11.000 I've been very vocal for many years speaking out against gun violence in particular, but I understand that the First Lady had a stressful experience over the weekend, and probably every weekend is pretty stressful in that house.

00:14:23.000 And also, I agree that hateful and violent rhetoric is something we should reject.

00:14:28.000 I do, and I think a great place to start to dial that back would be to have a conversation with your husband about it.

00:14:34.000 Because, um, and by the way, so his defense is actually worse than the original joke.

00:14:42.000 Again, I think the original joke is tasteless.

00:14:44.000 I think his defense is worse. 0.99

00:14:45.000 First of all, suggesting that Melania has a stressful weekend every weekend, akin to somebody trying to kill her husband, is insane and ridiculous. 0.95

00:14:53.000 And for a person who tries to brand himself as Captain Empathy over here, lacks true empathy in any realistic sense. 0.92

00:15:01.000 And then, of course, he turns and he swivels and he clocks the president for his political rhetoric and all of the rest.

00:15:08.000 Now, I just point out, first of all, that Jimmy Kimmel, it is amazing how our world has changed.

00:15:14.000 The kind of hatred that has become commonplace in our politics is so clear.

00:15:20.000 Back in 1981, somebody tried to assassinate Ronald Reagan, and it was a few days before the Oscars.

00:15:25.000 And Johnny Carson, who was then the dominant late night host, was hosting the Oscars.

00:15:29.000 And I just want to show you what Johnny Carson said after an attempted assassination against Ronald Reagan.

00:15:34.000 Does anyone think any late night comic today would say the same if the president was wounded?

00:15:41.000 Does anyone think that?

00:15:42.000 The answer is obviously no.

00:15:45.000 This used to be a country where people actually held some basic standards in common.

00:15:49.000 Here is Johnny Carson, who, by the way, was Democrat in 1981.

00:15:54.000 Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.

00:15:55.000 I'm sure that all of you here and most of you watching tonight understand why we'd have delayed this program for 24 hours.

00:16:03.000 Because of the incredible events of yesterday, that old adage, the show must go on, seemed relatively unimportant.

00:16:10.000 The Academy, ABC Television, and all of us connected with the show felt because of the uncertain outcome, as of this time yesterday, it would have been inappropriate to stage a celebration.

00:16:21.000 But the news today is very good, as you know.

00:16:23.000 The president is in excellent condition at last reports.

00:16:26.000 He's been conducting business.

00:16:31.000 So, again, do you think that you'd get anything like that from Hollywood today if the president had been shot in the chest?

00:16:36.000 Okay, so that said, and I think that Kimmel's jokes are terrible, I think they're unfunny.

00:16:42.000 I think that, frankly, I don't even believe him in his politics.

00:16:45.000 This is a dude who used to do a show with Adam Carolla in which women bounced around on trampolines without wearing bras.

00:16:52.000 The Man Show on Comedy Central.

00:16:54.000 Those women, by the way, were called the juggies.

00:16:56.000 So, do I believe the new anti woke Jimmy Kimmel?

00:17:01.000 Do I believe that that is the real Jimmy?

00:17:03.000 I don't.

00:17:03.000 But again, bad jokes, tastelessness, being bad at his job.

00:17:08.000 That's not the reason why Jimmy Kimmel should have been fired long ago.

00:17:11.000 If you want to talk about the kinds of rhetoric that lead people to try to kill the president, the answer is not his joke about Melania or making light of the idea of the president passing away or something.

00:17:22.000 That is not the thing that leads to.

00:17:25.000 Violence.

00:17:25.000 The thing that leads to violence is pretty obvious.

00:17:28.000 The actual conspiracism.

00:17:30.000 The actual conspiracism. 0.75

00:17:33.000 Jimmy Kimmel has spent years at this point calling the president a pedophile.

00:17:38.000 He has imputed Epstein involvement to him.

00:17:42.000 Again, that is the thing in the actual shooter's manifesto.

00:17:47.000 It's actually in the manifesto.

00:17:48.000 I don't have to speculate because he released a manifesto.

00:17:51.000 Here was Jimmy Kimmel doing that for like a long time.

00:17:55.000 He's coming after our right to vote.

00:17:57.000 He's protecting pedophiles and won't explain it.

00:17:59.000 He's lining the pockets of billionaires all while neglecting the sick, the poor, the hungry.

00:18:05.000 In the name of Jesus, by the way.

00:18:07.000 When your best friend was a pedophile and you're losing bigly in the swing states with an election coming up, what do you do?

00:18:14.000 I'll tell you what you do you fire the weapons of mass distraction.

00:18:17.000 And that would mean he'd have to come up with another distraction from the war.

00:18:22.000 And if you do need that, Mr. President, I got a good one.

00:18:24.000 You don't want to distract us from the war?

00:18:26.000 Release the unreleased Trump Epstein files.

00:18:28.000 Thank you for watching.

00:18:29.000 I'm surprised you're still.

00:18:30.000 Isn't it past your jail time?

00:18:35.000 And by the way, if Trump wants to send a rapist somewhere, he could just jump on a bus himself, you know. 0.98

00:18:44.000 So, again, it was Jimmy Kimmel calling Trump a cover up artist for pedophilia and a rapist and all the rest, which is the permission structure for the violence. 0.99

00:18:53.000 That is the permission structure for the violence.

00:18:56.000 Should Jimmy Kimmel lose his job? 0.96

00:18:57.000 He should have lost his job long ago because he's crappy at his job. 0.95

00:18:59.000 But if we're going to talk specifically about the kinds of rhetoric that need to be called out, that should have social consequences, conspiracism, anti evidence, idiocy that imputes evil to an opponent without evidence, that's the kind of stuff that's bad. 0.97

00:19:14.000 And again, I'm not blaming Melania for being deeply upset with that joke from last week because obviously you hear that joke and time flattens and then somebody tries to shoot your husband, you might be a little ticked and you should be ticked.

00:19:26.000 But let's be real about the kinds of rhetoric that actually we all should be fighting.

00:19:31.000 I mean, Democrat and Republican, we all should be fighting because here's the thing we have to have some common standard when it comes to the kinds of speech that receive social blowback and social consequence.

00:19:41.000 Otherwise, it just turns into a war of all against all.

00:19:43.000 All right, in just a little bit, we'll get to the collapse of California.

00:19:46.000 They're bringing it on themselves.

00:19:47.000 It's truly insane. 1.00

00:19:48.000 Plus, Iran, they might be on their last legs. 0.95

00:19:50.000 I know the media are trying to tell you that we're in trouble.

00:19:53.000 I mean, Iran has got some serious troubles.

00:19:55.000 They're putting out propaganda about women and children carrying guns.

00:19:58.000 That's how bad things are getting in Iran at this point.

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00:21:36.000 So we should be focused more as conservatives.

00:21:40.000 We should be focused a lot more on Kimmel's conspiracism.

00:21:45.000 We should be focused a lot more on the violence that has been full scale embraced by the Democrats, not, you know, them saying that you need to fight back or political warfare or that kind of stuff.

00:21:54.000 That's kind of normal political rhetoric.

00:21:56.000 The thing that they actually should be smacked for in political terms is their willingness to go along with actual violence.

00:22:05.000 So, for example, there was an event called the People's Forum, and there's a person named Mohsen Madawi who was speaking there.

00:22:14.000 And what he had to say, and again, these are all people who would be perfectly comfortable in the halls of power with Democrats.

00:22:20.000 Democrats would be perfectly happy hanging out with these people.

00:22:24.000 He suggested Hassan Piker is a victim now because people have pointed out.

00:22:27.000 That Hassan Piker, just last week, a few days before the assassination attempt, was talking about how maybe Luigi Mangione was justified.

00:22:35.000 Sure, he wouldn't want Luigi Mangione to do what he did, but it was kind of you understand it.

00:22:39.000 I mean, after all, Brian Thompson was doing social violence to people.

00:22:44.000 By the way, Mohsen Medali, in a brief filed by the DOJ, was cited as admitted to being involved in and supporting pro terrorist acts of violence.

00:22:54.000 He told a gun shop owner he had considerable firearm experience and used guns to kill Jews while he was in Palestine, according to that DOJ report.

00:23:01.000 And here he was at a People's Forum defending Hassan Piker.

00:23:05.000 These are the kinds of people that Democrats are welcoming into the halls of power.

00:23:09.000 We had to do a last minute call because of the level of attacks and targeting that he has been going through from the right and the left.

00:23:21.000 And specifically, since last night, with the situation in the White House, there are people who are trying to point fingers to Hassan.

00:23:35.000 As we know, this is a whole war on truth.

00:23:41.000 The system is trying to silence us and to censor us from speaking up for Palestine and from sharing our truth because the truth has its own power.

00:23:55.000 You know, our truth, his truth, is that he's a terrorist supporter and so is Hassan Piker.

00:23:59.000 And Bernie Sanders is hugging Hassan Piker.

00:24:02.000 And Zar Mamdani is hugging Hassan Piker.

00:24:04.000 And Zar Mamdani on his own was a supporter of terrorist supporters like the Holy Land Five and the Ohan Omars.

00:24:11.000 And the Democrats who embrace all these people, right?

00:24:13.000 That is a bigger problem.

00:24:14.000 The conspiracism that's been pushed by the Democrats, as I said before, that is what leads to this sort of violence.

00:24:20.000 Joy Reid, who, again, until very recently was on MS Now, here she was spinning theories about staged assassination attempts.

00:24:30.000 Here we go.

00:24:32.000 And we know that Viktor Orban, allegedly, allegedly, according to Washington Post reporting, there was a plot by the Russians to stage an assassination attempt.

00:24:43.000 Fake assassination for Orban.

00:24:45.000 So, all of this throws in together.

00:24:46.000 You're like, when something seems too perfect, people don't believe in it.

00:24:51.000 And Donald Trump now again gets victimized by an alleged would be assassin in front of the perfect witnesses, the press.

00:25:00.000 This sort of conspiracism is insane, but it has become totally mainstream inside Democratic circles.

00:25:05.000 That's the stuff that's dangerous.

00:25:06.000 The stuff that's dangerous is not Hakeem Jeffries saying that he wants to wage maximum warfare on redistricting.

00:25:12.000 That's not the stuff that leads people to go shoot people.

00:25:14.000 It isn't.

00:25:15.000 It isn't.

00:25:16.000 Again, far be it from me to defend Hakeem Jeffries, who I think is truly a terrible politician who defends some of the worst people in America. 0.99

00:25:22.000 Again, he is perfectly willing to defend the Zorhan Mamdanis of the world.

00:25:27.000 But when Hakeem Jeffries suggests that he stands by his maximum warfare comments, because he had suggested maximum warfare on redistricting, again, that is normal political rhetoric. 0.92

00:25:36.000 The reason that I'm pointing this out is because if you conflate all of these things, you end up getting nothing done.

00:25:41.000 I think Americans agree that conspiracism is bad and wrong and generates violence.

00:25:46.000 I think that the vast majority of Americans, left, right, and center, agree.

00:25:50.000 That if you impute to your political opponents evil without evidence, that foments violence.

00:25:55.000 But if you conflate that with jokes you don't like, or you conflate that with kind of inflamed political rhetoric about how you're going to fight an electoral war, how you're going to go to battle, as though that is what's actually.

00:26:10.000 Again, there's very specific lines of thought that generate violence.

00:26:15.000 And we should pick those out and we should be specific.

00:26:17.000 Specificity is what allows for agreement and change.

00:26:21.000 Generality just turns everything into a war of all against all.

00:26:25.000 That's what happens.

00:26:28.000 And again, I think that there is a larger problem in our body politic of trying to impute evil motivation to your political opponents without evidence.

00:26:37.000 Sometimes there is evil motivation.

00:26:39.000 Notice that phrase without evidence.

00:26:40.000 Sometimes there's actual evil motivation or at least unjustifiable motivation.

00:26:46.000 I, for example, do think that it is evil to lie to people that boys can be girls. 1.00

00:26:51.000 I think that is, I think that is, you can impute that to stupidity. 0.99

00:26:54.000 I try to impute as much on this show to stupidity as opposed to malice as I possibly can. 1.00

00:26:59.000 I think there are cases where it's clearly malicious, and there are cases where people have been bamboozled and they're dumb. 0.99

00:27:04.000 But it has become de rigueur in politics, particularly on the left, to claim that everything you don't like is being motivated by evil.

00:27:04.000 That happens a lot.

00:27:13.000 So, a great example of this in a much softer way.

00:27:16.000 So, yesterday, the EPA head, Lee Zeldin, was testifying before Congress.

00:27:22.000 In front of the Appropriations Committee.

00:27:24.000 And Representative Rosa DeLauro, you might remember her from her Halloween hair. 1.00

00:27:30.000 She's the one with the gigantic purple strip down the middle of her hair for no reason that anyone can discern, and some of the ugliest glasses you've ever seen.

00:27:37.000 I'm doing this so if you're listening, you actually know who I'm talking about.

00:27:39.000 Now you know exactly who I'm talking about.

00:27:41.000 Anyway, she was questioning Lee Zeldin.

00:27:44.000 And she was questioning him about the fact that the EPA has said that it cannot regulate carbon emissions under the Clean Air Act, which, again, is black letter law.

00:27:54.000 The Clean Air Act says nothing about carbon emissions or global warming.

00:27:57.000 And thus, if Congress wants to regulate, it can.

00:28:00.000 But it is not up to the executive branches to do it.

00:28:03.000 And this is what Lee Zeldin says.

00:28:05.000 And listen to how DeLauro approaches this issue.

00:28:07.000 The way she approaches this issue is she says, It's because Lee Zeldin is a liar and a bad man that he is not using the EPA to do something illegal.

00:28:17.000 And meanwhile, he's just like, hey, that's the law.

00:28:18.000 I'm just telling you what the law is.

00:28:19.000 If you want to go do something as Congress, you can. 0.85

00:28:22.000 But she wants to ignore the law in favor of what the philosopher Alester McIntyre called emotivism, suggesting that Zeldin is a bad man with terrible intent.

00:28:31.000 He is not just a good person trying to effectuate the law as he sees it.

00:28:34.000 He must be a very, very terrible bad man who wants children to die or some such.

00:28:40.000 How can the EPA justify abandoning that duty to protect Americans to appease polluters under the false flag of economic growth?

00:28:48.000 Following the law, Section 202 of the Clean Air Act, where does it say anything about fighting global climate change?

00:28:55.000 Loper Bright, Supreme Court case, you're familiar with it?

00:28:58.000 No, maybe others are not, but let me ask you.

00:29:01.000 But that's really important.

00:29:02.000 As a member of Congress, Loper Bright says that we, as an agency, don't have the authority to get creative if Section 202 of the Clean Air Act.

00:29:10.000 No, but you don't have, excuse me.

00:29:12.000 You do not have the right to say climate change does not exist, that it's a hoax, and that's where this administration is going to be.

00:29:19.000 Anderson, you're upset that you don't know what Loper Bright is.

00:29:21.000 Do you know what the major policies doctrine is?

00:29:23.000 No, I'm upset because.

00:29:24.000 You know what the major policies doctrine is?

00:29:26.000 You're a member of Congress.

00:29:27.000 You should know.

00:29:28.000 Well, you're.

00:29:29.000 I don't have to listen to this, and I would say.

00:29:31.000 No, what you should do for your constituents is actually read statute.

00:29:34.000 Your budget is at real risk.

00:29:36.000 Read your Supreme Court.

00:29:38.000 This is the Appropriations Committee.

00:29:40.000 I'm here.

00:29:41.000 You care about science?

00:29:42.000 Now you're threatening to defund it?

00:29:43.000 No, you don't.

00:29:43.000 Oh, my God.

00:29:44.000 Funds for us.

00:29:44.000 Because you don't know what Loper Bray is.

00:29:46.000 Because you don't know what the major policies doctrine is.

00:29:48.000 Your message to our folks at the EPA is that you wanted to fund us.

00:29:53.000 I mean, again, that sort of political nonsense is part of the problem. 0.99

00:30:01.000 She is saying that Lee Zeldin is a liar and he's a bad man.

00:30:04.000 And all he's saying is listen, the executive branch has a different function than the legislative branch.

00:30:09.000 And she's just running right over him by suggesting he's a bad man.

00:30:12.000 If that's not an argument, that is a character.

00:30:17.000 Targeting a character assassination.

00:30:18.000 That's what that is.

00:30:19.000 And that sort of nonsense is very bad for our politics.

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00:31:27.000 Meanwhile, the state of California is in a state of slow rolling collapse.

00:31:33.000 The polls have been tightening in California, in Los Angeles in particular.

00:31:37.000 So, the gubernatorial race there is hilarious because you have 25 people who are running for governor.

00:31:41.000 And since Eric Swalwell was apparently engaged in alleged acts of impropriety with a wide variety of women, and then he dropped out and he was the front runner, now it appears that everybody in the gubernatorial race is getting 15%, like every single human.

00:31:56.000 Meanwhile, there's a mayoral race in Los Angeles.

00:31:58.000 Karen Bass is the incumbent mayor who's done an awful job. 1.00

00:32:01.000 She's still the front runner in both polling and total cash on hand, demonstrating once again that my old hometown of LA is filled with dullards. 0.99

00:32:10.000 But there is a three way battle for the top two spots because you have to have a runoff. 1.00

00:32:14.000 If nobody gets 50%, then the top two run against one another.

00:32:17.000 Spencer Pratt has raised nearly $540,000 since January 1st.

00:32:22.000 He is raising money like nobody's business.

00:32:25.000 He was a registered Republican, he is running as an independent.

00:32:28.000 And here he was talking about the state of Los Angeles and California on Adam Carolla's show.

00:32:35.000 We don't have anybody in LA that fights Sacramento, and these dreams of Sacramento.

00:32:42.000 Become nightmares of Los Angeles.

00:32:44.000 They have these utopian versions of how we should live in Los Angeles, but nobody fights them in Sacramento.

00:32:51.000 And again, as mayor, I'm going to be in their territory, let me tell you.

00:32:59.000 He is right about this.

00:33:00.000 He did, I thought, a rather incredible public service announcement while running for mayor.

00:33:05.000 He went over to the Sixth Street Bridge.

00:33:08.000 It is completely dark.

00:33:09.000 The reason it is completely dark is because Karen Bass, mayor, allowed criminals to steal all of the copper wiring from all of the lights.

00:33:16.000 And her solution to this is not to police crime.

00:33:19.000 It is to launch a program to install, wait for it, 60,000 solar powered streetlights. 0.96

00:33:25.000 Great job, Karen Bass here with Spencer Pratt going after her.

00:33:28.000 I'm Spencer Pratt.

00:33:29.000 We're here at the 6th Street Bridge in downtown Los Angeles.

00:33:33.000 It is beautiful.

00:33:34.000 If only you could see it.

00:33:36.000 But all the lights have been allowed to be stolen from our taxpayer money because Mayor Basura and Nithya Rahman and her DSA City Council let criminals.

00:33:48.000 Run the streets.

00:33:49.000 But don't worry, Mayor Basura is planning to take $200 more million of our tax money to get solar power lights.

00:33:58.000 Oh, because the criminals won't steal those.

00:34:00.000 But don't worry, Nithya Raman has suggested putting cages around the lights.

00:34:06.000 That's right, cages.

00:34:08.000 That'll stop them. 0.99

00:34:11.000 By the way, Basura means trash. 0.91

00:34:12.000 I've been informed by producer Savvy, who is my interpreter. 0.73

00:34:17.000 So that is what Spencer Pratt is saying right there.

00:34:18.000 Meanwhile, California.

00:34:20.000 Determined to cut off its nose to spite its face.

00:34:22.000 They're very angry that there are rich people in California.

00:34:24.000 So Gavin Newsom, the governor, will wander around the land talking about how California is the top income creating state in the nation and how it's filled with innovators and billionaires.

00:34:37.000 And meanwhile, California is actively attempting to undermine all of that, which is the reason why Gavin Newsom, despite his sort of quasi Marxist leanings on economics, has been opposing a referendum that would force a wealth tax onto the ballot.

00:34:50.000 Well, it turns out it made the ballot.

00:34:52.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, on Sunday, advocates for the wealth tax said they have gathered enough signatures to place a wealth tax referendum on the November ballot, even as a new study shows it is likely to result in less state revenue.

00:35:04.000 Of course, it's likely to result in less state revenue.

00:35:06.000 All the billionaires can leave.

00:35:07.000 See, that's the nice thing about being a billionaire.

00:35:09.000 You can afford a house somewhere else.

00:35:11.000 The proposed ballot measure would impose a supposedly one time 5% tax on individuals with more than $1 billion in wealth.

00:35:17.000 By the way, again, that is very supposedly.

00:35:19.000 There has yet to be a tax that does not expand the minute it hits the books.

00:35:23.000 Remember, the income tax was initially supposed to hit only the very top income earners in the United States, and it kicked in at an exorbitant income.

00:35:32.000 And now it applies to half the country and takes a giant chunk of your wealth.

00:35:37.000 This tax, according to the Wall Street Journal, would hit nearly all of a billionaire's assets, including trusts, as well as voting interests in a company if that exceeds his equity stake.

00:35:46.000 And it applies to billionaires who are California residents as of January 1st this year.

00:35:50.000 So if you didn't get out in time, then they would try to grab 5% of your entire wealth.

00:35:55.000 So the reason this is insane is because this also applies to unrealized wealth.

00:36:00.000 Okay, so for example, let's say that you own a company, like a nice sized company.

00:36:06.000 Let's say you own half of it and it's a $2 billion company, but you own stock in the company.

00:36:12.000 If you own stock in a company, that doesn't mean that your stock is liquid.

00:36:15.000 It doesn't mean that you can just take that money out of the bank and start spending it.

00:36:20.000 It means that maybe you pay yourself a salary, a nice salary, like $5 million a year.

00:36:25.000 Let's say you pay yourself $5 million a year.

00:36:29.000 Well, if you're being taxed on your billion dollars in assets, then 5% of $1 billion.

00:36:37.000 That would be $50 million.

00:36:41.000 Just to do some quick math over here.

00:36:44.000 So you might be taking a $5 million salary, which is a really, really nice salary, obviously, but you own a billion dollars in stock.

00:36:51.000 Well, you're going to be paying $50 million in tax, which means you have to sell stock, which means the price of the stock goes down, which means the company is unable to achieve more liquidity, which means maybe people get fired, which then hits all of your workers.

00:37:08.000 Well, billionaires are doing what you would expect, they're leaving.

00:37:10.000 France tried this, by the way.

00:37:11.000 France had a wealth tax for a little while and they had to repeal it because it was so bad.

00:37:15.000 All the rich people in France were leaving.

00:37:17.000 The California Tax Foundation visiting fellow Jared Walzak estimates in a new paper reported departures already total $777 billion.

00:37:25.000 And there are more quiet departures that do not draw media coverage because there are solid legal reasons to believe the initiative's residency date and approach could be challenged successfully in court.

00:37:36.000 By his estimate, the wealth tax exodus could total $1.23 trillion.

00:37:42.000 Reduce annual state revenue by $3.53 billion to $4.49 billion, mainly from lower income tax collections.

00:37:51.000 Because again, it turns out that, you know, who pays people's salaries are the rich people.

00:37:57.000 It takes money to pay people's salaries.

00:37:59.000 The businesses they run pay the salaries.

00:38:01.000 There's another report in the New York Post suggesting that this wealth tax could cost 100,000 jobs and $28 billion in wages.

00:38:07.000 So congrats to California.

00:38:08.000 Again, this is the way that Democrats play the economic game.

00:38:13.000 They, they leech Off of the people who actually generate innovation and outsized earnings.

00:38:20.000 They tax those people.

00:38:21.000 And then when those people leave, they blame them and suggest that they are somehow morally deficient in some way.

00:38:26.000 We'll see how it works out for California.

00:38:27.000 Genius level stuff in my old home state.

00:38:30.000 Already.

00:38:30.000 Meanwhile, on the foreign front, this morning, President Trump put out a truth saying Iran has just informed us they are in a state of collapse.

00:38:39.000 They want us to open the Hormuz Strait as soon as possible as they try to figure out their leadership situation, which I believe they will be able to do.

00:38:46.000 Well, the answer there should be obviously we're not opening up a damn thing until you collapse or give up what we want.

00:38:53.000 The reality is their economy is in serious trouble.

00:38:55.000 The way you can tell, by the way, that their economy is in serious trouble is they're executing everybody they possibly can.

00:39:00.000 They are deeply afraid that there is going to be a rebellion from inside Iran.

00:39:03.000 Some smuggled footage, smuggled out to the New York Post from an infamous Iranian prison, has now captured six dissidents breaking into song to defy the Islamic regime one last time before being hanged.

00:39:17.000 Pretty tragic stuff.

00:39:18.000 Here's what that sounds like.

00:39:20.000 Musallah kun selahatra, beho gordolera zobar, po beshian sah de rohatra.

00:39:30.000 Apparently, these guys are now dead.

00:39:33.000 They've been hanged by the Iranian regime. 1.00

00:39:35.000 Well, there's a reason.

00:39:37.000 That is because the Iranian regime is freaking out, freaking out.

00:39:40.000 According to Iran International, Iran's Supreme National Security Council has held a meeting to address growing concerns among security agencies over a possible resurgence of protests.

00:39:49.000 Sources familiar with the discussions told Iran International.

00:39:52.000 According to information presented at the meeting, officials believe mounting economic hardship, driven by rising prices, unemployment, and damage to key industries, such as petrochemicals and steel could become the main trigger for renewed protests.

00:40:04.000 Estimates shared during that meeting suggested Iran's economy may not be able to withstand more than six to eight weeks of a naval blockade.

00:40:10.000 That blockade began April 13th.

00:40:12.000 Around two weeks have now passed.

00:40:14.000 Another major concern is the near total shutdown of production centers in key sectors, including oil, petrochemicals, and steel.

00:40:21.000 Apparently rebuilding those industries could take years.

00:40:23.000 Security officials also say internet shutdowns have left around 20% of the workforce dependent on online activity The reason they've shut down the internet is they are deeply afraid that people are going to start coordinating about getting out in the streets again.

00:40:37.000 And apparently, these security officials are warning that, based on the economic forecast, an additional 2 million people could lose their jobs in the private sector by the end of spring.

00:40:47.000 Also, the closure of markets has halted all economic activity.

00:40:51.000 And so that means that basically the real is worthless at this point.

00:40:57.000 The New York Times has a piece about the cooking oil trade.

00:41:00.000 Quote, As the prices of basic goods have spiraled in Iran, they can sell olive, sunflower, and corn oils for a modest profit to Iranians at the border, who will either sell the oil inside their country or use it themselves.

00:41:10.000 Dozens of people were seen carrying multiple four and five liter bottles of oil as they walked from Turkey into Iran over the course of a single morning and afternoon.

00:41:18.000 So people are literally trying to walk cooking oil across the border.

00:41:24.000 The government gave Iranians a direct monthly cash payment last month, amounting to 10 million Iranian rials, which sounds like a lot of money.

00:41:31.000 You know how much 10 million Iranian rials is?

00:41:33.000 Seven American dollars.

00:41:35.000 Seven.

00:41:37.000 Meanwhile, according to Bloomberg, Iran is rapidly running out of places to store their crude oil.

00:41:41.000 That is because of the blockade that we have put on Iranian ships.

00:41:46.000 The Islamic Republic has enough unused storage capacity to last another 12 to 22 days.

00:41:51.000 At that point, they have to stop pumping.

00:41:52.000 So right now, they're keeping up the pumping, but because they can't get it out, they're filling up legitimately like old storage facilities that are incapable of even holding the oil.

00:42:02.000 Iran has already curtailed as much as 2.5 million barrels of daily crude production, according to Goldman Sachs.

00:42:08.000 Scott Besant, the Treasury Secretary, says, While the surviving IRGC leaders are trapped like drowning rats in a sewage pipe, Iran's creaking oil industry is starting to shut in production thanks to the U.S. blockade.

00:42:18.000 Pumping will soon collapse.

00:42:19.000 Gasoline shortages in Iran next. 0.98

00:42:22.000 So again, they don't have the capacity to refine the way they did.

00:42:25.000 They do not have the capacity to export literally at all.

00:42:28.000 Miyad Maliki, over at the Foundation for Defense of Democracy, says, This confirms about a 13 day onshore storage estimate.

00:42:35.000 Iran is now using containers and junk storage.

00:42:37.000 Those would be disused tanks in poor condition.

00:42:39.000 In Akhvaz and Asulaya to avoid cutting production.

00:42:43.000 And now they're trying to use rail.

00:42:45.000 But rail is not going to work because Iran's own senior rail transport experts are saying there are only two rail corridors to China.

00:42:52.000 They have never been used for petroleum.

00:42:54.000 They have very limited capacity and zero bulk crude infrastructure.

00:42:58.000 And the floating storage fix, like just putting them on ships and letting them float there, that's equally thin.

00:43:03.000 They're pulling retired shipping containers and retired ships literally out of retirement in order to try to float this oil.

00:43:12.000 They have about 48 hours worth of containment storage there.

00:43:17.000 Bottom line, apparently, according to Malachi, containers, junk tanks, retired VLCCs, and rail fantasies are not a storage strategy.

00:43:24.000 They're the last moves of a system running out of room exactly on the timeline that that was estimated. 0.98

00:43:30.000 This would be why the Islamic regime is getting more and more desperate. 0.59

00:43:33.000 The Islamic regime is putting out propaganda showing women and children with guns.

00:43:36.000 That, by the way, is not a sign of strength.

00:43:38.000 That is not a sign of strength.

00:43:39.000 When you have to show your women and your kids with guns, that means you are down to the very end. 0.65

00:43:43.000 This is like the last days in Berlin in the Nazi regime. 0.78

00:43:47.000 Here is some of their propaganda. 0.86

00:43:54.000 And it's literally women in burqas.

00:43:56.000 And small children behind machine guns.

00:44:00.000 This is not a sign of strength.

00:44:05.000 If this video looks to you like strength, I don't know what to tell you.

00:44:09.000 This does not look like strength. 0.99

00:44:10.000 This looks like it's pathetic. 0.98

00:44:12.000 They've got a real problem on their hands when they're relegated to using human shields like women and children and just stuffing guns into the hands of nine year olds. 1.00

00:44:12.000 It's pathetic. 1.00

00:44:20.000 Pretty amazing stuff from Iran. 1.00

00:44:22.000 I mean, again, that's their propaganda.

00:44:24.000 That is not our propaganda about them.

00:44:25.000 That is them putting out their own propaganda, and the best they can do is.

00:44:29.000 Here is a child with an M4.

00:44:31.000 My goodness. 0.85

00:44:33.000 Here is a baby with a Kalashnikov.

00:44:34.000 The world's best, you know, they're probably just like us.

00:44:37.000 Probably they're just like us.

00:44:39.000 Well, meanwhile, Pzeszkian, who is the president of Iran, he says that the blockade and sanctions are undermining trust.

00:44:48.000 He says that any diplomacy requires a shared understanding and the right conditions for meaningful dialogue.

00:44:54.000 And he says that, that basically we need to let up the blockade in order to get negotiation.

00:44:57.000 Ah, that's not happening. 0.99

00:44:58.000 And if it does, that would be very stupid. 0.99

00:45:00.000 We should not do that. 1.00

00:45:01.000 That would be foolish.

00:45:02.000 Why would you let up the pressure when it clearly is working? 0.91

00:45:05.000 It is the reason they are desperate. 0.83

00:45:07.000 This is why, you remember that just last week, the Iranians didn't send people to Pakistan because they thought they had the upper hand.

00:45:13.000 Well, now they are unilaterally sending people to Pakistan, basically attempting to draw the United States into negotiations.

00:45:20.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, Iranian Foreign Minister Abbasarrahi is set to return to Islamabad on Sunday for further discussions with Pakistani officials, even though U.S. envoys won't be there after President Trump canceled their trip.

00:45:33.000 Meanwhile, Marco Rubio.

00:45:35.000 The Secretary of State explained yesterday on Fox News with Trey Yingst that Iran's open straits, you know, they say that they have open straits.

00:45:43.000 He says that's not true.

00:45:44.000 That's not true.

00:45:47.000 If what they mean by opening the straits is, yes, the straits are opened as long as you coordinate with Iran, get our permission, or we'll blow you up and you pay us, that's not opening the straits.

00:45:56.000 Those are international waterways. 0.94

00:45:58.000 They cannot normalize, nor can we tolerate them trying to normalize a system in which the Iranians decide who gets to use an international waterway and how much you have to pay them to use it. 0.99

00:46:09.000 President Trump, for his part, put out a statement saying that we're not going to travel 16 hours to Pakistan to talk about nothing. 0.99

00:46:15.000 That's not a thing.

00:46:18.000 I'll deal with whoever we have to, but there's no reason to wait two days, have people traveling for 16, 17 hours.

00:46:27.000 And we're not doing it that way.

00:46:28.000 We'll do it when they want, they can call me.

00:46:31.000 We have all the cards.

00:46:32.000 We've won everything.

00:46:33.000 We have all the cards.

00:46:36.000 Again, the president's saying we have all the cards and we have time.

00:46:39.000 He is not wrong about this. 1.00

00:46:40.000 And the Iranians thought they could outweigh him. 1.00

00:46:42.000 The problem was they're so weak that they can't afford to wait another three years. 1.00

00:46:46.000 That's what the president knows that the Iranians apparently don't. 1.00

00:46:49.000 The president also called into Fox News where he was talking about the end of the war. 0.97

00:46:54.000 Here's what he had to say So we can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon. 0.98

00:46:59.000 So this should have been done by previous presidents. 0.92

00:47:02.000 It should have been done for years 47 years it's been going on and nobody did anything about it.

00:47:08.000 We had to do that.

00:47:09.000 We'd I took the greatest economy we've ever had, and I said, We're going to have to take a little detour and stop that from happening.

00:47:15.000 And that's what happened, and we've done a great job, and it'll come to an end very soon, and we're going to be very victorious.

00:47:24.000 Meanwhile, the Secretary of State was on with Trey Yingst again, and he said, Listen, everyone keeps pretending that Iran is somehow in solid shape.

00:47:32.000 Literally every problem Iran had is worse now. 0.88

00:47:36.000 Do you believe the Iranians are serious about making a deal? 0.92

00:47:39.000 I think the Iranians are serious about getting themselves out of the mess that they're in.

00:47:42.000 All the problems Iran had, they had riots a few months ago, and these were economic riots.

00:47:47.000 All the problems that Iran had before the start of this conflict are still in place, and most of them are worse.

00:47:52.000 And now they have half the missiles, none of the factories, and no Navy. 0.99

00:47:59.000 He is right, and he says, listen, we still have some tools that we can bring to bear here. 0.96

00:48:02.000 And that is aside from just bombing the hell out of, for example, Kharga Island and destroying forever their capacity to refine. 0.99

00:48:10.000 If there is no deal, what comes next? 0.92

00:48:12.000 Well, again, that's the president's decision to make.

00:48:14.000 I would start out by reminding everybody that the level of sanctions on Iran are extraordinary, the pressure on Iran is extraordinary, and I think more can be brought to bear. 0.99

00:48:22.000 But I hope that in the aftermath of this conflict, the whole world's eyes have been opened to the threat Iran poses. 1.00

00:48:30.000 He is right about this. 1.00

00:48:30.000 One of the things that he says here is listen, if they're willing to drop the economic nuke of shutting the straight, what would they have actually done with a nuke nuke? 1.00

00:48:38.000 That's what people should keep in mind.

00:48:40.000 And honestly, the cowardice of our allies here, of our purported allies, is truly extreme here. 0.90

00:48:45.000 They've been bitching and moaning for legitimately decades over the threat of Iran.

00:48:49.000 The minute that the president actually does the thing that needs to be done, they're completely in the wind, completely in the wind and complaining about it. 0.87

00:48:57.000 And you can always trust the Europeans to be the Europeans when the chips are down. 0.70

00:49:00.000 Pretty impressive stuff. 0.87

00:49:02.000 At the same time, Qatar is now running away from what Qatar is. 0.92

00:49:07.000 Qatar was a cutout for Hamas.

00:49:08.000 They announced yesterday that they would no longer be hosting Hamas.

00:49:11.000 All it took was Hamas to completely collapse, for Qatar to stop playing cutout on behalf of Hamas.

00:49:16.000 All it took was Iran being attacked, for Qatar to suddenly shift its position.

00:49:20.000 But we should remind you that Qatar is not an ally to the United States in any true and real way.

00:49:25.000 They are a place that hosts an airbase for us, an airbase that sometimes they refuse to allow us to use properly.

00:49:34.000 Qatar is a giant bribery center. 0.93

00:49:36.000 That's what it is. 1.00

00:49:36.000 It is a giant bag of money to bribe people on behalf of extremism. 1.00

00:49:42.000 One great example of this unbelievable report from the Wall Street Journal.

00:49:47.000 You may remember that in 2024, there was a prosecutor for the International Criminal Court, a totally illegitimate body, supposedly enforcing international law by asking the opinions of the people in Iran and South Africa about members of the United States or Israel or other allies.

00:50:05.000 Well, Karam Khan put out a An arrest warrant for Israel's leaders in 2024.

00:50:11.000 That was Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant, the defense minister at that time.

00:50:14.000 That was shortly after he had learned he had been accused of sexual assault, and then he went on leave in May 2025.

00:50:20.000 Well, now a witness statement says the Qatari government promised to look after Mr. Khan if he moved against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

00:50:28.000 So Qatar, a U.S. ally, was literally promising, apparently, according to this witness, to bribe the prosecutor for the International Criminal Court if he went after the Israelis.

00:50:39.000 Slow clap for all the geniuses who have been pretending that Qatar is not spreading its money around for nefarious purposes.

00:50:45.000 That built on the UK Guardian's November report on a Qatar linked private intelligence operation by at least two firms, Highgate and Aliceus Intelligence, hoping to discredit Mr. Khan's alleged assault victim as an Israeli plot.

00:50:59.000 In recordings, private investigators discussed their intelligence operations' connections to what seems to be Qatar, which they called the client country.

00:51:07.000 Folks, if your university is accepting funding from Qatar, you should be asking a question why?

00:51:13.000 Why?

00:51:14.000 Why is Qatar so interested in American universities?

00:51:17.000 If Qatar is funding a group, you should be asking yourself why is Qatar funding that group? 0.86

00:51:21.000 Qatar is a tiny little, tiny country, tiny, tiny country with a bunch of oil and very few citizens and a gigantic slave labor pool. 0.69

00:51:30.000 And they are bribing the hell out of people. 1.00

00:51:32.000 Why should they be, why do they own half of the real estate in London?

00:51:36.000 These are serious questions we should be asking ourselves.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - April 28, 2026

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