The Ben Shapiro Show - John Fetterman Gives The Worst Debate Performance In History | Ep. 1597

00:00:00.000 John Fetterman demonstrates that all the questions about his health were well-founded.

00:00:03.000 New York Governor Kathy Hochul gets slammed by Lee Zeldin.

00:00:06.000 And Tudor Dixon takes the wood to Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan.

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00:02:29.000 Well, Democrats' midterm prospects are looking grimmer and grimmer as the days go by.

00:02:33.000 We already knew that it was about a 50-50 shot that Republicans were going to retake the Senate.

00:02:37.000 But governors' races all over the country look like they're starting to swing in the direction of Republicans.

00:02:42.000 And this is because Democrats have nothing to run on.

00:02:45.000 Remember that over the past several years, Democrats shut down their states.

00:02:49.000 Democrats shut down their schools.

00:02:50.000 Democrats created green passes for people who are vaccinated and discriminated against people who are not vaccinated, all on the basis that the unvaccinated were spreading the disease in a way that the vaccinated were not.

00:03:02.000 All of that was, of course, predicated on very, very faulty or non-existent data.

00:03:06.000 And what we saw last night in a series of debates across the country is the fact that Democrats have no defense for their own governance.

00:03:12.000 You're seeing it in the polling data today.

00:03:14.000 If you look at the polls all across the country, what you are seeing is that Republicans are basically now in striking distance in every major state.

00:03:20.000 If you look at the polls in the Senate, for example, right now, according to the Real Equal Politics polling average, Pennsylvania is dead heat.

00:03:26.000 That is before we get to the debate between John Fetterman and Mehmet Oz, which was just one of the saddest things I've ever seen in my entire life.

00:03:32.000 Because John Fetterman is clearly not well, is clearly not healed from his stroke.

00:03:35.000 His family, his campaign, decided to put him on the campaign trail for some God knows why reason.

00:03:43.000 I would imagine that can't be good for your healing process because this did not look like a well person on the stage last night, as we'll show you in just one second.

00:03:50.000 In New Hampshire, Maggie Hassan is now running about a three-point race against Don Balduck, which means that the National Republican Senatorial Committee is now pouring money back into New Hampshire.

00:04:00.000 They think that that seat is in striking distance.

00:04:02.000 In the Senate, you have North Carolina.

00:04:05.000 Bud is running away with that race.

00:04:06.000 In Nevada, Adam Laxalt is widely expected to win his race in Nevada.

00:04:09.000 In Arizona, Mark Kelly and Blake Masters are now running a dead heat.

00:04:13.000 In Georgia, Raphael Warnock is now falling behind Hershel Walker as this race closes.

00:04:17.000 And you would expect, by the way, that in both Arizona and Georgia, the strength of the Republican at the top of the ticket on the governor's side is going to help drag those senatorial candidates across the finish line.

00:04:26.000 People are going to go into the polls and they are going to see that they're going to vote for Brian Kemp in Georgia, for example, and Raphael Warnock is on ballot.

00:04:34.000 They're going to vote against him while they're there.

00:04:35.000 Same thing is going to happen in Arizona if Carrie Lake is doing well, which she appears to be doing over there. 1.00

00:04:40.000 Vance looks like he's finally pulling away in Ohio.

00:04:40.000 J.D.

00:04:42.000 Ron Johnson, who is widely expected to lose his race at the beginning of this particular cycle in Wisconsin, is now pulling away.

00:04:49.000 And Marco Rubio, who is expected to be running a competitive race with Val Demings just a few months ago, is now pulling away from Val Demings in Florida.

00:04:55.000 So what does that mean?

00:04:57.000 I mean, if Republicans were to sweep, which is a possibility, because in politics, when there is a wave, the wave tends to move in one direction.

00:05:05.000 It tends to overwhelm everything.

00:05:06.000 If there is a Republican red wave, you could see a Republican pickup of a wide variety of states.

00:05:12.000 You could see Republicans pick up three, four, five seats in the Senate.

00:05:16.000 When you move over to the House, the RealClearPolitics polling average right now says that their average projection is Republicans picking up 29 seats.

00:05:22.000 That's their average projection.

00:05:24.000 That is with them assuming a generic ballot advantage for Republicans of about three points.

00:05:28.000 I don't think it's three points.

00:05:29.000 I think it's going to be five to seven points.

00:05:31.000 And if that happens, Republicans could be picking up on the order of 40 seats in the House, which would give them a historically large majority in the House.

00:05:38.000 In the governor's races, there are too many races that are just dead heat for Democrats to sleep on this thing.

00:05:44.000 Real clear politics is currently projecting at least three Republican gubernatorial pickups.

00:05:49.000 Races that were supposed to be competitive.

00:05:51.000 Races like Georgia.

00:05:52.000 Brian Kemp is running away with that race against the vaunted and sainted Stacey Abrams.

00:05:57.000 Texas.

00:05:57.000 You remember that there was a brief moment in time where Beto was finally going to take down Greg Abbott.

00:06:02.000 It turns out that Abbott is now winning that race by almost 10 points.

00:06:04.000 DeSantis in Florida is winning his race against Charlie Crist by 10 points in the real car politics polling average.

00:06:09.000 And that's not even getting to the super competitive states.

00:06:11.000 The super competitive states.

00:06:13.000 Wisconsin.

00:06:14.000 Dead heat.

00:06:15.000 Minnesota is a two and a half point race.

00:06:17.000 Carrie Lake has a slight advantage over in Arizona. 0.94

00:06:20.000 Again, she was widely expected by the media to fall apart against Katie Hobbs. 0.78

00:06:25.000 She has two advantages.

00:06:26.000 One, she's good on TV. 0.90

00:06:27.000 And two, Katie Hobbs is the actual physical embodiment of the color gray. 1.00

00:06:31.000 It's like they took the color gray and they somehow managed to condense it into human form.

00:06:36.000 And Katie Hobbs is that candidate.

00:06:39.000 The latest polls have Lake up variously by three or Hobbs up by one.

00:06:43.000 But it appears that Republicans have momentum in that particular race.

00:06:47.000 Again, governor's races in Nevada.

00:06:49.000 It looks like Lombardo is going to win that race.

00:06:52.000 That's the Republican in Nevada.

00:06:53.000 So Laxalt and suddenly Nevada goes from purple to red.

00:06:57.000 New Mexico is shockingly a possible win for Republicans.

00:07:01.000 That race, according to the Real Club Politics polling average, is now at three and a half points.

00:07:04.000 People aren't even polling that race, really, because that was widely expected to be a hold for Lou Anne Grisham. 0.99

00:07:10.000 Oregon, the Republican looks like the Republican is up in the Oregon gubernatorial race, which is a shocker.

00:07:15.000 Like every single poll that has been taken currently has Drazen winning that race.

00:07:21.000 These are bad numbers for Democrats.

00:07:24.000 And what that means is that if you start to stretch the boundaries a little bit, you end up looking at Whitmer in Michigan, who is only up in some of these polls by three points, two points, some of them are up six.

00:07:34.000 But again, those tend to be Democrat leaning and slightly older polls.

00:07:38.000 Or maybe New York, where Kathy Hochul is up six points. 1.00

00:07:41.000 But again, the polling data in New York has been growing closer and closer.

00:07:45.000 That race seems to be a little bit under-polled.

00:07:48.000 And remember, in New Jersey, Jack Ciatarelli nearly beat Phil Murphy by spending $7, and he was losing by like 13 points in the polls going into that race.

00:07:59.000 There's the heavy possibility that a bunch of New Yorkers are just not all that enthusiastic about, say, Joe Biden and the Democrats.

00:08:05.000 And at the same time, they think that there's a really good shot that they're going to end up winning that gubernatorial race.

00:08:08.000 They just don't show up to the polls.

00:08:10.000 And so Republicans end up flipping a seat like that.

00:08:12.000 That is my sleeper pick, is that Kathy Hochul goes out to Lee Zeldin.

00:08:15.000 If you're doing, like, NFL sleeper picks here, New York might be your smart sleeper pick.

00:08:20.000 All of this led up to the debates last night.

00:08:22.000 There were a series of debates across the country.

00:08:24.000 The most followed one was the debate between Fetterman and Oz.

00:08:26.000 Now, there's a lot of focus on this particular debate for a couple reasons.

00:08:29.000 One, obviously, it's a very fraught Senate seat.

00:08:32.000 Mehmet Oz has been widely disparaged and attacked by the media, by Democrats.

00:08:36.000 Even some on the Republican side of the aisle have thought that he was a weak candidate and that Dave McCormick should have been the actual nominee in that seat.

00:08:42.000 But Memedos has been steadily gaining in that seat for weeks at a time.

00:08:46.000 A couple of months ago, I said that that seat was going to tighten up dramatically, and it has.

00:08:49.000 That seat is now effectively a dead heat going into the debate.

00:08:53.000 That's one reason.

00:08:53.000 The other reason is that John Fetterman is an awful candidate.

00:08:57.000 Despite all of the attempts to turn John Fetterman into a glorious new wave of the future candidate, John Fetterman is a lifelong dependent on his parents.

00:09:09.000 He was the mayor of a town of 1,800 people, which is smaller than many golf clubs.

00:09:14.000 His actual annual salary was in the hundreds of dollars.

00:09:17.000 He was being supported by mommy and daddy until he was 49 years old.

00:09:21.000 And then he became lieutenant governor.

00:09:23.000 And as lieutenant governor, he's done precisely nothing.

00:09:25.000 And then he ran for the Senate, predicated on an extraordinarily wild left record, including maybe we should free one third of the criminals in Pennsylvania's prisons.

00:09:35.000 And maybe we should have no limits on abortion whatsoever. 0.99

00:09:37.000 And this was considered the best part of his candidacy, right?

00:09:39.000 Democrats in the primaries decided to pick Fetterman.

00:09:41.000 Remember, Fetterman had his stroke before the primary vote.

00:09:45.000 Fetterman had a stroke.

00:09:45.000 It was on the Friday before the primary vote.

00:09:47.000 And then he defeated Conor Lamb.

00:09:48.000 So Democrats in Pennsylvania made the overt choice to pick a stroke victim over Conor Lamb.

00:09:55.000 And then we were told that John Fetterman was on the campaign trail.

00:09:57.000 He was perfectly fine.

00:09:58.000 Anybody who noticed he was not perfectly fine was ripped up and down.

00:10:02.000 I mean, you'll remember that there was an NBC News reporter named Dasha Burns who pressed Fetterman for medical updates and then went out and said, like, when I talked to him, when I chit-chatted with him, he just wasn't well.

00:10:12.000 I mean, remember, this was just a couple of weeks ago.

00:10:14.000 Here is Dasha Burns, who was ripped up and down, as we will see in just a second, for noticing that John Fetterman actually is not well.

00:10:21.000 We've asked for your medical records.

00:10:23.000 We've asked to have a conversation with someone from your medical team to interview your physician.

00:10:28.000 You've declined those requests.

00:10:30.000 Why?

00:10:33.000 Well, I feel like we have been very transparent in a lot of different ways.

00:10:37.000 Our doctor has already given a letter saying that I'm able to serve and to be running.

00:10:43.000 I mean, respectfully, that letter from your physician, that was six months ago.

00:10:48.000 Don't voters deserve to know your status now?

00:10:52.000 Being on in front of thousands and thousands of people and having interviews and getting around all across Pennsylvania, that gives everybody and the voters decide, you know, if they think that it's it's really the issue.

00:11:06.000 So Dasha Burns at the time, she noted that John Fetterman could not make small talk and he was having a very difficult time in conversation.

00:11:12.000 And the media ripped her up and down, up and down.

00:11:14.000 They were saying that she's terrible.

00:11:16.000 It was awful.

00:11:17.000 And you'll recall that she actually then had to tweet out, quote, We were happy to accommodate closed captioning.

00:11:21.000 Our reporting did not and should not comment on fitness for office.

00:11:24.000 This is for voters to decide.

00:11:25.000 What we do push for as reporters is transparency.

00:11:27.000 It's our job.

00:11:28.000 Fetterman sat down and answered our questions.

00:11:29.000 That's his job.

00:11:31.000 Again, the idea here from the media was it was very bad for Dasha Burns to notice that Jon Fetterman was nonfunctional.

00:11:36.000 In fact, you had people like Kara Swisher saying, no, no, I've talked to him.

00:11:38.000 He's perfectly functional.

00:11:39.000 Everything is totally fine.

00:11:41.000 So the media narrative went from Jon Fetterman is fine to as he was out on the campaign trail bobbling, John Fetterman may not be fine, but he's fine enough to be in the Senate.

00:11:51.000 And then it went to, if you notice that he's not fine, then there is something deeply wrong with you.

00:11:56.000 And now, after last night's debate, the media have already swiveled to, it's totally fine to have a non-functional stroke victim in the Senate.

00:12:04.000 That is now what they're relegated to because that is how John Fetterman performed last night.

00:12:08.000 You got to feel bad for the guy.

00:12:09.000 I mean, honestly, like the guy is a stroke victim.

00:12:11.000 He's obviously not functioning properly.

00:12:13.000 He's being put in front of millions of people to demonstrate his inability to process language.

00:12:19.000 It's not good.

00:12:19.000 I mean, it's hard not to make fun of the fact that there is a Democratic candidate for the Senate of the United States.

00:12:26.000 This is not a seventh grade spelling bee.

00:12:28.000 This is not a kid who's having difficulty, broke his leg and he's out there playing on the fifth grade basketball team.

00:12:34.000 This is for a Senate seat in the United States Senate.

00:12:39.000 I mean, honestly, watch his answers last night, and it falls somewhere between tragic and tragicomic that Democrats have decided this is what they decided to do with this.

00:12:49.000 Again, they made that choice.

00:12:50.000 We didn't make that choice.

00:12:51.000 They made that choice.

00:12:53.000 So the night opened, and right from the outside, it was clear that John Fetterman was having some severe, severe problems.

00:12:58.000 Here's John Fetterman last night.

00:13:00.000 He opens by saying goodnight to people.

00:13:03.000 Mr. Fetterman, we're going to begin with you.

00:13:05.000 Your political experience includes serving as the mayor of Braddock, a small borough near Pittsburgh, and one term as lieutenant governor.

00:13:15.000 You're running for a seat that could decide the balance of power in Washington.

00:13:20.000 What qualifies you to be a U.S.

00:13:22.000 senator?

00:13:23.000 You have 60 seconds.

00:13:26.000 Hi.

00:13:26.000 Good night, everybody.

00:13:28.000 I'm running to serve Pennsylvania.

00:13:32.000 Good night, everybody.

00:13:34.000 You may have noticed that that's not how you normally open a conversation.

00:13:36.000 It got worse from there.

00:13:37.000 Hey, that was just the outset.

00:13:39.000 Here's John Fetterman last night, who's asked about releasing medical records.

00:13:43.000 And he said, my doctor thinks I can serve.

00:13:45.000 He said, while being completely unable to finish sentences.

00:13:50.000 Again, my doctor L believes that I'm fit to be serving, and that's what I believe is where I'm standing.

00:13:57.000 That is what I believe is where I'm standing?

00:14:01.000 I'm not sure he knows where he is standing at this point.

00:14:04.000 And it's not mean to point out that the Democrats have decided and his family has decided to put this person in front of the public and say that this person is fit to serve in the United States Senate.

00:14:15.000 He's running for an office.

00:14:17.000 You don't get to run for office on the basis that it's mean to deny office to a person who's a stroke victim.

00:14:21.000 That's not how this works.

00:14:23.000 This is the angle Democrats are taking this morning, by the way.

00:14:26.000 The angle the Democrats have taken is that to notice that there is something wrong here is mean.

00:14:31.000 You are an ableist if you don't think that this person is fit to serve in the United States Senate.

00:14:35.000 That is not a defense to you guys putting up somebody who clearly is not fit to serve in the United States Senate.

00:14:40.000 I mean, here was John Fetterman speaking on minimum wage last night.

00:14:43.000 This is just incoherent.

00:14:45.000 Do you support raising the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour?

00:14:50.000 Why or why not?

00:14:51.000 You have 60 seconds.

00:14:53.000 Yeah, I do.

00:14:53.000 Absolutely.

00:14:54.000 I think it's a disgrace at $7.25 an hour.

00:14:56.000 And how can a man, you know, with 10 gigantic mansions, you know, has and willing to talk about What in the world?

00:15:04.000 I mean, it's embarrassing.

00:15:06.000 It is.

00:15:06.000 signal mom trying with two children trying to race with them realizing making $31,000 a year, you know, $15 an hour. You know, I believe every work has dignity, and every paycheck must have dignity in it as well. True. I've always supported a living wage.

00:15:21.000 What in the world? I mean, it's embarrassing. It is. I mean, not for him, but for his entire team.

00:15:31.000 And you got to look at this guy as a victim of his team for putting him out there.

00:15:36.000 Thank you for watching.

00:15:37.000 That was not in English.

00:15:39.000 This is a Senate candidate.

00:15:41.000 It got worse and worse.

00:15:42.000 I mean, this was the entire night.

00:15:43.000 This was like an hour and a half.

00:15:45.000 And here's John Fetterman explaining that things cost too much.

00:15:49.000 How exactly, Mr. Fetterman, do you propose doing that to make it more affordable for families?

00:15:56.000 No, I just believe I just making it that much more it costs too much and I believe providing the resources to reduce the tuition to allow families to be able to afford it.

00:16:10.000 Oh.

00:16:11.000 My.

00:16:13.000 God.

00:16:16.000 Really?

00:16:17.000 How do you sleep at night if you're part of his team?

00:16:19.000 I don't understand.

00:16:21.000 I understand you want to win the Senate seat, but you would've been better off, if you were his team, just making up some bullcrap excuse to not put him in this debate.

00:16:28.000 Because this is the most watched debate of the Senate cycle, and you put out a person who cannot get through phrases.

00:16:34.000 Forget sentences.

00:16:35.000 Phrases.

00:16:36.000 He can't get through phrases.

00:16:39.000 And of course that's an issue.

00:16:40.000 This morning you have Democrats out there who are trying to claim, well, ignore the fact that he can't speak English or process language.

00:16:45.000 Ignore that fact.

00:16:47.000 After all, all you really need is for him to say yay or nay.

00:16:49.000 This is really what they're trying to... Here was an MSNBC guest last night trying to talk her way through this thing.

00:16:55.000 Fetterman's campaign is hoping to turn his sort of vulnerability into an asset here.

00:17:00.000 Do you think he did so on the debate stage tonight?

00:17:05.000 I think it's tough to say whether or not it will wind up being an asset with voters, but it was certainly an example of such remarkable transparency, the opposite of what the Oz campaign has sort of asserted, which is that he's somehow hiding something about his health.

00:17:20.000 I mean, showing up for an hour debate And it was, as he said, starting out, he said he was going to talk about the elephant in the room.

00:17:27.000 He played the clip.

00:17:28.000 He said, I'm going to miss words.

00:17:30.000 And you could tell.

00:17:31.000 I wrote in my story about how in my interview with him, there was a moment where he became frustrated and stressed out, and it made some of his communicative problems worse.

00:17:40.000 And I think that this context and what you described as the insanely high stakes of this election, this single debate, clearly This was a candidate who was feeling stress, and there was such intense scrutiny, often ableist scrutiny, on how he was going to communicate, and he just did a debate in front of, you know, the nation.

00:18:04.000 Uh, that's your defense.

00:18:06.000 He was radically transparent.

00:18:07.000 He won't release any of his medical records.

00:18:08.000 He's radically transparent.

00:18:10.000 Was he?

00:18:11.000 Hmm.

00:18:11.000 Interesting.

00:18:12.000 So your defense is we're so proud of Timmy.

00:18:14.000 I mean, this is honestly, you want to talk about ableist?

00:18:17.000 How about the idea that everybody in America is supposed to just wink and nod at the fact that the person can't speak English properly?

00:18:23.000 How about that?

00:18:24.000 That's not ableist.

00:18:25.000 That's a qualification.

00:18:27.000 That is a qualification for office.

00:18:29.000 This is the equivalent of you're applying to be a firefighter and you show up and it turns out that tragically, the week before, a tree fell on you and handicapped you and you show up and people are like, look at the bravery of this man who's auditioning to be a firefighter, who's applying to be a firefighter.

00:18:45.000 Sure, he's incapable of carrying out the job.

00:18:47.000 Sure, he's not going to be able to, you know, roll his way up those stairs and carry out another human being who's unconscious thanks to smoke inhalation.

00:18:54.000 But isn't Timmy brave?

00:18:55.000 Like, no, this is not how this works.

00:18:57.000 This is an application to be in the United States.

00:18:59.000 And it's not ableist to say that you should be able to process language.

00:19:04.000 My God, I know our standards for high office have fallen.

00:19:06.000 I mean, the president of the United States is no longer alive, but have they fallen so far that it is now considered an act of bigotry?

00:19:14.000 To demand that your Senate candidates be able to speak the English language and understand the English language?

00:19:21.000 I mean, Fetterman, it was, again, it was like this all night long.

00:19:23.000 So awkward.

00:19:24.000 The worst moment for Fetterman is when he was asked about his statements on fracking.

00:19:27.000 So, Fetterman has a very long history of saying that he opposes fracking.

00:19:32.000 In the state of Pennsylvania, it's a big deal because Oil shale is a big thing, right?

00:19:37.000 Fracking is enormous.

00:19:38.000 All of Western Pennsylvania's economy largely is based on the fracking industry.

00:19:42.000 And Fetterman has spent his career opposing the fracking industry.

00:19:45.000 And now he's reversed himself.

00:19:45.000 So he was asked about that.

00:19:47.000 And I mean, honestly, it's in the same way that it's kind of gut churning to watch Joe Biden go through a speech.

00:19:53.000 It is so much worse to watch Fetterman.

00:19:55.000 It is so much worse.

00:19:56.000 It's not just awkward.

00:19:58.000 It's it's difficult.

00:19:59.000 It is physically difficult to watch John Fetterman in debate.

00:20:03.000 Just a second, Mr. Oz.

00:20:04.000 I do want to clarify something.

00:20:06.000 You're saying tonight that you support fracking, that you've always supported fracking, but there is that 2018 interview that you said, quote, I don't support fracking at all.

00:20:16.000 So how do you square the two?

00:20:18.000 I do support fracking and I don't, I don't, I support fracking and I stand and I do support fracking.

00:20:32.000 fracking.

00:20:37.000 I mean, first of all, he's lying.

00:20:38.000 But I mean, put aside the fact that he's lying.

00:20:41.000 Ah, as a human being, it's hard to watch that.

00:20:44.000 We'll get to more on this in just one second.

00:20:44.000 It's very difficult.

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00:22:04.000 Well, of course, that's not going to stop Democrats from trying to push John Fetterman over the line.

00:22:07.000 Fetterman's campaign spokesperson last night tried to hype up the crowd at a post-debate rally.

00:22:13.000 It didn't go amazing.

00:22:15.000 All of us who have been knocked down, but got back up.

00:22:18.000 What Dr. Oz means to me is that he's going to fight for the big corporations who are ripping us off, he's going to fight for the big pharmaceuticals who are ripping us off, and the oil companies who are jacking up prices.

00:22:27.000 I think the people of Pennsylvania saw a relatable guy who had been doing his recovery in public for quite some time, and for a guy who was just, you know, in the hospital months ago, took a Dr. Oz brief.

00:22:42.000 And in the background, ABC is showing The Bachelor.

00:22:46.000 So things are going amazing for the Fetterman campaign.

00:22:48.000 Their big talking point coming away from the debate, aside from you're mean if you notice that there's something wrong with John Fetterman, is Dr. Oz suggested that abortion law should be made locally.

00:22:57.000 The headline they're saying is that Dr. Oz said that abortions should be decided between local politicians, doctors, and women, as opposed to, you know, between doctors and women.

00:23:04.000 Here's what Dr. Oz actually said.

00:23:06.000 This is a direct transcript.

00:23:07.000 There should not be involvement from the federal government in how states decide their abortion decisions.

00:23:11.000 As a physician, I've been in the room when there's some difficult conversations happening.

00:23:14.000 I don't want the federal government involved with that at all.

00:23:16.000 I want women doctors, local political leaders, letting the democracy that's always allowed our nation to thrive, to put the best ideas forward so states can decide for themselves. 1.00

00:23:23.000 I'm not going to support federal rules that block the ability of states to do what they wish.

00:23:26.000 The abortion decision should be left up to the states.

00:23:28.000 That is a wildly uncontroversial statement from Dr. Oz.

00:23:31.000 They're trying to spin that because they got nothing else to spin.

00:23:33.000 When you got nothing else to spin, just make up what your opponent is saying, suggesting that you want like the local mayor in the room while a doctor and woman figure out how to do an abortion or something.

00:23:41.000 But bottom line here is that Fetterman, if he is elected in the aftermath of that, you want to talk about polarized American politics.

00:23:47.000 If John Fetterman ends up in the Senate after that performance, It will say something about the nature of politics in the United States, namely that people are so polarized that they're willing to elect people who are not fully functional to positions of high power simply because they are not the other guy.

00:24:03.000 One quick note here.

00:24:03.000 John Fetterman actually tried to blame the closed captioning system for his debate failure last night.

00:24:09.000 That was not the problem.

00:24:10.000 The problem was he couldn't process language and he couldn't speak out of his face.

00:24:15.000 This is actually forced.

00:24:17.000 Fetterman's criticism of the closed captioning system forced the closed captioning system to put out a statement, quote, both candidates agreed to the technical setup for the closed captioning process weeks ago, which was implemented at the request of the Fetterman campaign.

00:24:27.000 Both candidates were offered the same opportunity for two full rehearsals with the same equipment used in tonight's debate.

00:24:32.000 Mr. Fetterman chose to do only one.

00:24:34.000 In fact, Nextar's production team went to extraordinary lengths When you are relegated to blaming the closed captioning system, you have a massive problem on your hands.

00:24:40.000 request of the Fetterman campaign.

00:24:41.000 The closed captioning process functioned as expected during rehearsal and again during tonight's debate.

00:24:45.000 We regret that Mr.

00:24:46.000 Fetterman and his campaign feel otherwise.

00:24:48.000 When you are relegated to blaming the closed captioning system, you have a massive problem on your hands.

00:24:53.000 Okay.

00:24:54.000 Meanwhile, another race that has suddenly popped up onto the national radar is New York gubernatorial race.

00:24:59.000 So Lee Zeldin, who is a congressman from New York, a fairly conservative, moderate to conservative Republican in New York.

00:25:07.000 He's running against Kathy Hochul, who of course inherited her office as she has done with virtually all of her other high offices because some man couldn't keep his pants zipped.

00:25:15.000 So Kathy Hochul has not done a good job as New York governor. 0.87

00:25:17.000 There is nothing to suggest that she should retain that seat.

00:25:20.000 Lee Zeldin really went at her aggressively last night.

00:25:23.000 That race is surprisingly close.

00:25:26.000 And it is hard to to forget the fact in this context that the New Jersey race that was nearly upset by a Republican had about 11 to 13 point gap.

00:25:37.000 This New York race is closing and it's closing fairly quickly right here.

00:25:43.000 And you look at these polls and you have a poll just a week ago from Siena that had HOKALUP11.

00:25:48.000 And then you had a poll like days later from Quinnipiac that had HOKALUP4.

00:25:52.000 My opponent still can't finish this sentence.

00:25:53.000 are a little bit all over the place, but you can see the trend is to close the gap.

00:25:56.000 Back in August, Hockel had a 15 point lead on Zeldin. Today, Hockel has about a six point lead on Zeldin in the RealCourtPolitics polling average. The momentum is clearly in Zeldin's corner, and he really hurt her last night. So Zeldin opened by saying, there's a reason people are leaving this state, and it's because of bad democratic governance.

00:26:13.000 My opponent still can't finish the sentence. You can't expect her to ever fix it. But New York leads the entire nation in population loss because... She actually got asked this question by the media a few weeks ago when she was at Binghamton Airport.

00:26:25.000 She probably would love to have a redo because she messed it up that time. 1.00

00:26:29.000 For me, you ask me, why does New York lead the entire nation in population loss?

00:26:33.000 Because their wallets, their safety, their freedom, and their quality of their kids' education are under attack.

00:26:37.000 So they're hitting their breaking point.

00:26:38.000 They're looking at other states like the Carolinas, Tennessee, Texas, Florida, and elsewhere, and they feel like their money will go further, they'll feel safer, and they'll live life freer.

00:26:46.000 The state is at a crossroads.

00:26:48.000 We were at a crossroads in 1994 when New York elected George Pataki, and we're at a crossroads right now.

00:26:55.000 But as far as what happens with Kathy Hochul and one-party rule for four more years, outsize power of self-described socialists, we need balance and common sense restored to Albany.

00:27:03.000 Okay, and that sort of moderate republicanism has won in New York, as he points out.

00:27:09.000 George Pataki was governor of the state for a very, very long time.

00:27:13.000 Zeldin said that he is running to take back the streets as well.

00:27:15.000 The crime issue in New York is out of control and of course he is correct.

00:27:19.000 Now Cathy Ockels supports Castle's Bail.

00:27:21.000 As soon as it got implemented, she was out there bragging about it. 0.74

00:27:24.000 She chose the champion of the Defund the Police movement and the architect of Castle's Bail, Brian Benjamin.

00:27:30.000 Yeah, that guy who got arrested and had to resign.

00:27:32.000 That was her first big decision to make him the Lieutenant Governor.

00:27:35.000 We need to repeal Castle's Bail.

00:27:37.000 We need to repeal the HALT Act.

00:27:39.000 Amend Raise the Age and less is more.

00:27:41.000 We need to make our streets safe again.

00:27:43.000 I'm running to take back our streets and to support unapologetically Are men and women in law enforcement?

00:27:49.000 Okay, Hockel's response to all of this, to the rising crime rates in New York, to the fact that you cannot go on the New York subway system anymore because someone might shove you in front of a subway car, or because someone might hit you with a sword.

00:28:03.000 And her response to this is, why are you so interested, Lee Zeldin, in locking up criminals?

00:28:08.000 Why is that so important to you?

00:28:10.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, I stated that the first day that I'm in office, I'm going to declare a crime emergency and suspend Castile's bail and these other pro-criminal laws, because there is a crime emergency.

00:28:21.000 My opponent thinks that right now, there's a polio emergency going on, but there's not a crime emergency.

00:28:26.000 Different priorities that I'm hearing from people right now, they're not being represented, from this governor, who still, to this moment, we're halfway through the debate, she still hasn't talked about locking up anyone committing any crimes.

00:28:39.000 I don't know why that's so important to you?

00:28:40.000 under our laws, especially with the change they made to bail, has consequences.

00:28:45.000 I don't know why that's so important to you.

00:28:47.000 I don't know why that's so important to you?

00:28:51.000 I don't know why locking up criminals is so important to you and keeping them locked up?

00:28:55.000 I mean, Zeldin, for whatever remains of this campaign, she's going to run that ad over and over and over. 0.77

00:29:01.000 And him saying, I wanna fight crime, and her saying, I don't know why that's so important to you.

00:29:04.000 Because it's important to fight crime!

00:29:06.000 Why is this difficult?

00:29:07.000 Plus, Kathy Hochul kept doubling down on masking of children, for example. 0.85

00:29:11.000 And Kathy Hochul has run one of the strictest regimes in America with regard to COVID.

00:29:15.000 And here she was, continuing to push this sort of stuff.

00:29:19.000 And will you follow the CDC's recommendation to add COVID vaccines to children's vaccine schedules?

00:29:27.000 One year ago, when I became governor, we were still experiencing the effects of the Delta variant, and it was scary.

00:29:33.000 And children weren't able to get back to school unless we directed them to make sure that they had the opportunity to wear a mask.

00:29:39.000 A mask was able to get kids back into schools.

00:29:41.000 That is important to me, to keep children in schools.

00:29:44.000 But at this point now, we have so many vaccines available.

00:29:47.000 Remember, it wasn't that long ago when they were in short supply.

00:29:50.000 Lines were around the block.

00:29:51.000 There was nothing at the pharmacy.

00:29:52.000 There was a real panic around this.

00:29:54.000 Now because we have plentiful vaccine supply and everybody should get their booster.

00:30:00.000 So there she is explaining that it was masks that got kids back to school.

00:30:04.000 This is insane.

00:30:05.000 Okay, what Kathy Hochul is saying right there, that it was her masking policy that got kids back into school is nutso.

00:30:09.000 It is nutso.

00:30:10.000 The idea that masking small children who have no capacity to wear N95s, and again, there is no data, none, on whether a cloth mask is going to be effective against Omicron.

00:30:20.000 The answer is, spoiler alert, no.

00:30:22.000 The idea that she got kids back into school because of that, she delayed kids getting back into school by months and years because of her own bad policy. 1.00

00:30:31.000 And there she is promoting that.

00:30:33.000 And if Lee Zeldin doesn't close that gap, I will be a little bit surprised, honestly.

00:30:37.000 That's going to be a very close election, and it should be a very close election at the very least.

00:30:40.000 Meanwhile, speaking of governors who did a horrible job during COVID, Gretchen Whitmer over in Michigan did a horrible job. 1.00

00:30:47.000 You'll recall that she was barring people from going to the local feed store and buying seed, but she was allowing her husband to go out on the lake in his boat or whatever.

00:30:54.000 Remember that Gretchen Whitmer He was mandating masks and lockdowns and all the rest.

00:31:01.000 She is now in a hotly fought gubernatorial race with Tudor Dixon.

00:31:05.000 Tudor Dixon really took the wood to her last night over a lot of issues. 0.77

00:31:11.000 She pointed out that Whitmer has taken the furthest left position as possible to take on education, for example.

00:31:18.000 Here was Tudor Dixon last night saying that she is not going to value politics over parents.

00:31:23.000 I will put parents over politics.

00:31:26.000 I will put students over systems.

00:31:28.000 Dixon also slammed Whitmer over the school closing.

00:31:32.000 Whitmer had tried to claim she only closed the school for three months.

00:31:34.000 Well, for the parents who were homeschooling their kids for like a year, that came as kind of a surprise.

00:31:38.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure I just heard an audible gasp around town when Gretchen Whitmer said that kids were out of school for three months.

00:31:45.000 Perhaps she wasn't paying attention to what was actually happening.

00:31:48.000 We even had schools that were closed this year.

00:31:51.000 This is shocking to me that she thinks that schools were only closed for three months.

00:31:55.000 Or maybe she thinks she can convince you that schools were only closed for three months, but you know better because your students are the ones that are desperately behind.

00:32:02.000 And the test scores show that she's being dishonest about this.

00:32:05.000 She's being dishonest about even trying to get into these schools to get these schools back on track. 1.00

00:32:12.000 This is the big problem.

00:32:13.000 Democrats do not have a lot to run on here.

00:32:15.000 Tudor Dixon also slammed Gretchen Whitmer's position that you should have all these nonsensical, woke, sex-laden books in schools available for small children.

00:32:24.000 Here she was last night pushing it.

00:32:26.000 They've asked Gretchen Whitmer to comment, and she's been silent on this issue, so I'm anxious to hear what she has to say.

00:32:31.000 If you have material in your school that is something that you can't read to a child at a bus stop because you would be arrested because it is pornographic, then it should not be in our classrooms.

00:32:43.000 What these parents are talking about are not textbooks that will help children learn about themselves.

00:32:50.000 These are books that are describing to children How to have sex and parents are outraged about it across the state.

00:32:57.000 I stand with those parents that want to make sure we go back to the basics.

00:33:01.000 Democrats have no closing pitch.

00:33:03.000 They have no closing pitch.

00:33:05.000 And this is the biggest problem for them.

00:33:07.000 And Republicans have a lot to run on, namely terrible Democratic governance in a lot of these states.

00:33:10.000 And by the way, when Republicans were governing during COVID, remember, COVID is still the gigantic elephant in the room.

00:33:16.000 Everybody is pretending that COVID is not going to matter in these elections because COVID is not a major ongoing issue in the United States.

00:33:21.000 But the fact is the Democratic governance during COVID was bad.

00:33:24.000 This is why you saw my family.

00:33:25.000 I literally moved my family from California, a blue state, to Florida, a red state, specifically because of COVID policy.

00:33:31.000 We moved our company, with at the time some 90 employees, from California to Nashville, Tennessee.

00:33:38.000 Thank God the company has tripled in size since that time.

00:33:40.000 We did that largely because of COVID policy and crime policy and tax policy and all the things that bad Democrat governance does.

00:33:46.000 When you look at these gubernatorial races, particularly, you can see that Democrats have nothing to run on.

00:33:51.000 Which, by the way, there's another poll out in Florida.

00:33:53.000 Speaking of Republicans who are popular, a poll out today in Florida.

00:33:56.000 Ron DeSantis, 55.

00:33:58.000 Charlie Crist, 41.

00:33:59.000 That is a 14-point gap.

00:34:01.000 Ron DeSantis won his gubernatorial race in 2018 by 30,000 votes, by a fraction of a percentage point.

00:34:07.000 And now he has opened a gap that is wide enough to drive a Mack truck through it.

00:34:11.000 Marco Rubio in the same state now has an 11-point lead on Val Demings in that same poll.

00:34:15.000 In other words, Republican governance is better than Democratic governance and people like it better.

00:34:19.000 And what was made clear during COVID is just how much of a gap there is in terms of that governance.

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00:36:11.000 Okay, so what exactly is the Democrats' closing pitch?

00:36:13.000 So Joe Biden tried to make it in the pages of CNN today.

00:36:17.000 Over at CNN Opinion.

00:36:18.000 So he didn't write this because I'm not sure that Joe Biden is capable of writing things anymore.

00:36:23.000 We have now reached that point in American life.

00:36:25.000 But one of his staffers wrote this.

00:36:26.000 What is his closing pitch for why you should vote Democrat?

00:36:28.000 Quote, over the past nearly two years, we have made enormous progress.

00:36:32.000 My administration, working with Democrats in Congress, is building an economy that grows from the bottom up and the middle out.

00:36:37.000 The unemployment rate is 3.5% of 50 or low.

00:36:38.000 We've created 10 million jobs.

00:36:42.000 You have not, actually.

00:36:44.000 That would be the natural consequence of COVID ending.

00:36:48.000 On my watch, Made in America isn't just a slogan, it's a reality.

00:36:50.000 We have more work to do.

00:36:52.000 Inflation, driven by the pandemic and Russian President Vladimir Putin's war on Ukraine is a global challenge.

00:36:56.000 I know a lot of people have a job and are still struggling to pay for groceries, gas and rent.

00:36:59.000 That's why I'm so determined to lower costs for families.

00:37:01.000 I'm working to reduce the burden on working and middle class people by bringing down the cost of everyday things they need for their families.

00:37:07.000 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:37:09.000 Nope.

00:37:10.000 That is what this is going to come down to.

00:37:11.000 Nope.

00:37:12.000 No one believes you.

00:37:13.000 Inflation is at 40-year highs.

00:37:16.000 Unemployment is soon to follow thanks to the ratcheting up of the interest rates that are necessary in order to quash the inflation.

00:37:20.000 On the foreign front, the war in Ukraine continues to go on and on and on with no off-ramp in sight.

00:37:25.000 And you've not articulated an off-ramp.

00:37:27.000 You presided over the complete collapse of the United States' presence in Afghanistan and the turnover of that country to the Taliban.

00:37:33.000 You're foisting radical social policy on Americans.

00:37:36.000 You continue to maintain that there's a COVID emergency, sometimes, but not others.

00:37:39.000 Plus, you don't seem capable of running the country.

00:37:42.000 Joe Biden, as your closer, I mean, you know, every baseball team has a closer, right?

00:37:47.000 You're leading in the game and you bring in the guy who throws 100 miles an hour to get the last three outs.

00:37:52.000 Joe Biden is a fourth grader who throws like a girl.

00:37:56.000 You can't bring him in in a Major League Baseball game as your closing pitch.

00:37:59.000 It's not possible.

00:38:00.000 Because he does stuff like this.

00:38:02.000 Here was Joe Biden last night congratulating a person who apparently he believes is named Rasheed Sanook on becoming the new Prime Minister of the UK.

00:38:13.000 And whether it's the United Kingdom or just today, we've got news that Rasheed Sanook is now the Prime Minister.

00:38:24.000 As my brother would say, go figure.

00:38:28.000 Rashid Sunak.

00:38:29.000 You mean Rishi Sunak?

00:38:31.000 Would that be the person that you are talking about?

00:38:32.000 He's expected to become the prime minister, I think, tomorrow when he goes to see the king.

00:38:37.000 Pretty astounding.

00:38:38.000 A groundbreaking milestone, and it matters.

00:38:41.000 It matters. 0.90

00:38:43.000 He's, he's deranged. 0.55

00:38:46.000 The look of derangement across, that's the president of the United States.

00:38:49.000 And meanwhile, they're pushing the things that really matter.

00:38:51.000 So here's Corinne Jean-Pierre, the world's worst press secretary yesterday, suggesting that one of the top priorities for this administration are trans rights, are human rights.

00:38:59.000 Ah, the most important thing for this administration is ensuring that your small child can be, can be socially transitioned and then sterilized. 0.95

00:39:06.000 And then hopefully at some point in the future, mutilated.

00:39:09.000 That's the most important thing here.

00:39:11.000 I want to be careful here because you're asking about a political ad, so I can't respond directly to that ad.

00:39:18.000 But what I want to say is, you know, the President has been very, very clear, and you've heard us say this from this podium, and it will continue to be what we believe, which is transgender rights are indeed human rights.

00:39:31.000 And I'll leave that there.

00:39:35.000 Meanwhile, Corinne Jean-Pierre also suggesting, again, it is amazing.

00:39:39.000 These are the same people who suggest that if you deny election results, that it's the end of the republic.

00:39:43.000 Here is the White House press secretary yesterday maintaining that voter suppression is happening at a high level in the United States, which is a lie.

00:39:49.000 It is a bigger lie than there is voter fraud happening in the United States.

00:39:51.000 You cannot name a human in the United States who has tried to vote legally and has been denied the right to vote.

00:39:55.000 You cannot name that person.

00:39:57.000 They cannot name one.

00:39:58.000 It is extraordinarily easy to vote in the United States.

00:40:00.000 It's particularly easy to vote in places like Georgia and Florida.

00:40:04.000 I went and early voted.

00:40:06.000 I early voted a couple of days ago because I'm not going to have time on election day to go vote.

00:40:09.000 You know what it amounted to?

00:40:10.000 I went to a website, I registered, I went in, I voted.

00:40:13.000 It was that simple.

00:40:15.000 But according to Corrine Jean-Pierre, just because lots of people are showing up to vote doesn't mean voter suppression isn't happening.

00:40:19.000 Well, you've now created an utterly unfalsifiable thesis that allows you to deny election results, which is what Corrine Jean-Pierre is very good at doing.

00:40:25.000 She still thinks that Stacey Abrams is the rightful governor of the state of Georgia. 1.00

00:40:29.000 There have been a host of anti-voter policies forced on states that challenge America's fundamental right to vote, right?

00:40:37.000 The access to voting.

00:40:39.000 And so this is against our most basic values, including respect for the law and the Constitution.

00:40:46.000 And speaking generally, of course, more broadly, of course, high turnout and voter suppression can take place at the same time.

00:40:54.000 They don't have to be, one doesn't have to happen on its own.

00:40:57.000 They could be happening at the same time.

00:41:01.000 Man, her body language is bad. 1.00

00:41:02.000 I mean, nodding her way through— Whenever she says something that is particularly false, she starts nodding.

00:41:07.000 Put your hands out there.

00:41:07.000 She starts nodding a lot.

00:41:08.000 Like a lot, a lot, a lot.

00:41:09.000 Then she said, right, right.

00:41:11.000 No, not right.

00:41:12.000 What you are saying is technically wrong.

00:41:14.000 When you say there can be high voter turnout and voter suppression.

00:41:17.000 Name a country where there's massively high voter turnout.

00:41:19.000 Massively high voter turnout that is not directed by the government.

00:41:23.000 Where the government isn't pointing a gun at someone and saying you need to go vote.

00:41:25.000 Name a country that has very high voter turnout and voter suppression at the same time.

00:41:29.000 Please.

00:41:30.000 I await your, I await your explanation of how this works precisely.

00:41:36.000 She then refuses to say whether Joe Biden was wrong to call Georgia's voting law Jim Crow 2.0, despite the fact that Georgia now has tremendous numbers of people who are early voting.

00:41:46.000 President Biden, last year, likened the new Georgia voting law to, quote, Jim Crow in the 21st century.

00:41:53.000 But turnout so far in the state's midterm elections has smashed midterm records.

00:41:58.000 Today, it topped 1 million votes overall.

00:42:00.000 That's about 70 percent more than 2018, on par with presidential election turnout.

00:42:06.000 Was President Biden wrong with this assessment of Georgia's voting law, or does he stand by that Jim Crow comparison?

00:42:13.000 So, as you know, I got to be careful.

00:42:16.000 I cannot get into politics from here.

00:42:17.000 So I won't comment specifically on that race or on the elections or the data that's coming out.

00:42:25.000 No one asked you to comment on that.

00:42:26.000 They asked about Joe Biden's comments.

00:42:28.000 He's the president of the United States.

00:42:29.000 So they're closing pitches.

00:42:30.000 We did a bad job.

00:42:31.000 And there's voter suppression.

00:42:33.000 Excellent, excellent pitch, guys.

00:42:36.000 Alrighty, the rest of the show is continuing now.

00:42:37.000 You're not going to want to miss it.

00:42:38.000 We'll be getting into what Republicans are about to do in the House.

00:42:41.000 The answer is they're going to win a lot of seats.

00:42:42.000 Plus, Joe Biden is doing COVID emergency on, COVID emergency off.

The Ben Shapiro Show - October 26, 2022

John Fetterman Gives The Worst Debate Performance In History | Ep. 1597

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