The Ben Shapiro Show - Kamala’s CAR WRECK First Interview!

00:00:00.000 Well, it finally happened.

00:00:01.000 Kamala Harris did a sit-down interview for all of, get this, she talked for 16 minutes.

00:00:07.000 16.

00:00:08.000 It was huge!

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00:00:55.000 Okay, so let me begin with the state of the race.

00:01:02.000 I always begin with the state of the race because you can't really gauge a success or failure at any political moment in time unless you know the backdrop.

00:01:09.000 So the backdrop is this.

00:01:10.000 This race remains a dead heat.

00:01:12.000 According to a brand new Wall Street Journal poll, Kamala Harris is now at 48%.

00:01:16.000 Donald Trump is at 47%.

00:01:21.000 Just head to head, no third party candidates.

00:01:23.000 She's up 47 to 45.

00:01:25.000 However, the margin of error is plus or minus 2.5 percentage points.

00:01:30.000 And remember, when they say that the margin of error is 2.5 percentage points, they mean that if Kamala Harris is at 47%, she could be at 49.5 and she could also be at 44.5.

00:01:40.000 So in other words, you have no idea who is leading this race. 0.72

00:01:43.000 This thing is a dead heat.

00:01:44.000 It also happens to be the case that we're in a dead heat.

00:01:46.000 So, we have a dead heat.

00:01:50.000 We have not yet had a debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.

00:01:57.000 And there's been a hue and cry from people like me for 40 days that Kamala Harris has answered zero difficult questions.

00:02:05.000 So, last night, at long last, she finally sat down.

00:02:09.000 And are we gonna, are we gonna...

00:02:13.000 See, here's the thing about that interview.

00:02:15.000 Deanna Bash, who's the interviewer for CNN, did a horrifyingly bad job. 1.00

00:02:19.000 She would ask a somewhat difficult question to Kamala Harris, and then Kamala Harris would wriggle her way out of the question, and then Deanna Bash would be one question away from just poking her, and Kamala Harris could have been flying off the cliff, because the thing she was saying made no sense.

00:02:35.000 One little prod.

00:02:37.000 And Kamala Harris is a bug on the windshield somewhere. 1.00

00:02:41.000 Dana Bash knew that, so she wasn't gonna do that.

00:02:43.000 So instead, she started feeding her answers.

00:02:46.000 She started avoiding the follow-ups that would have hurt her.

00:02:49.000 So Dana Bash did not do her job last night.

00:02:51.000 That is not a giant shock.

00:02:52.000 Also worth noting, this interview was a grand total of 26 minutes, 27 minutes.

00:02:59.000 Kamala Harris talked for 16 of them.

00:03:02.000 One 16-minute interview is not going to do it.

00:03:05.000 It is not going to do it for Kamala Harris.

00:03:08.000 Not only that, the aesthetics of the interview were awful.

00:03:11.000 Let me just put up a screen cap of the interview, any of these clips, just any screen cap from all three of them, please.

00:03:20.000 There we go.

00:03:21.000 So, here you can see what this interview looked like. 0.98

00:03:24.000 It looks like trash. 0.79

00:03:26.000 Apparently, they did this in a cafe.

00:03:28.000 They wanted to do it with people sitting around, but the problem was they had safety protocols, so they couldn't do that.

00:03:33.000 So instead, they emptied out the cafe.

00:03:35.000 So as my friend Matt Walsh says, They look like they were doing this from the inside of a small town airport waiting because there was a flight delay.

00:03:43.000 Not only that, this thing was staged poorly.

00:03:47.000 Tim Walz is taller than Kamala Harris.

00:03:49.000 She's not a very tall woman.

00:03:52.000 She looks like he has brought her to the principal's office.

00:03:56.000 That's what he looks like.

00:03:58.000 I tweeted out that it looks like she brought her dad to the McDonald's interview.

00:04:02.000 That's what this image looks like.

00:04:03.000 It is a bad look.

00:04:05.000 It is poorly lit.

00:04:06.000 It is dark.

00:04:08.000 It is weirdly drained of all color.

00:04:11.000 So it looks almost grayscale, this interview, because of the lighting.

00:04:15.000 Tim Walz is in the foreground.

00:04:16.000 Kamala Harris is in the background, which makes her look even smaller than she normally is. 0.87

00:04:21.000 And you've got Dana Basham profile.

00:04:23.000 So it's a very, very weird aesthetic.

00:04:26.000 It's not flattering to Kamala.

00:04:27.000 Kamala Harris requires the flattering camera shot. 0.99

00:04:29.000 She does, just aesthetically speaking.

00:04:31.000 She requires the upshot. 1.00

00:04:33.000 And she needs to look taller than she is. 0.78

00:04:36.000 She requires bright colors around her because that makes her look vibrant and filled with joy. 1.00

00:04:42.000 You put her in a black and white movie at an abandoned coffee shop in Georgia, and what she looks like is a middle manager at a bank that is never going to make up her management because she's not qualified, and who brought her dad to an interview.

00:04:57.000 That's what it looked like.

00:04:58.000 So it's a bad look, right off the bat, bad look.

00:05:02.000 She then happened to not be good.

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00:06:09.000 The big takeaways from this interview are a few.

00:06:12.000 One, Kamala Harris is now attempting to obscure every policy position she ever took. 1.00

00:06:17.000 She's now attempting to pretend that she didn't believe any of the things she said back in 2019.

00:06:22.000 She's running to the middle by lying to you. 0.99

00:06:25.000 So that is the most important thing.

00:06:26.000 And she should be called on those lies.

00:06:28.000 Dana Bash did it, like, a little, little, little bit last night, but not nearly enough.

00:06:33.000 It's up to Donald Trump and his campaign to do that, particularly in the September 10th debate.

00:06:36.000 All those lines of attack are wide open.

00:06:39.000 Kamala Harris has shifted virtually every position she ever held, and she has explained zero of those shifts.

00:06:45.000 So that's point number one.

00:06:46.000 Point number two.

00:06:48.000 You get her off the teleprompter, even in a friendly interview like this, she's a disaster area.

00:06:52.000 Truly bad.

00:06:53.000 Wandering all over the landscape in search of an idea.

00:06:57.000 Filling the time with bromitic platitudes.

00:07:01.000 Like, when we think about the significance of.

00:07:04.000 She does the same trick that you did when you were in fifth grade and the teacher asked you a prompt on an essay question and you repeated the essay question as the beginning of your essay.

00:07:14.000 So, your teacher would ask you about Tom Sawyer.

00:07:18.000 Why did Tom Sawyer get his friends to paint the fence?

00:07:21.000 The importance of Tom Sawyer getting his friends to paint the fence.

00:07:24.000 That's what she does whenever she needs to stall for time. 1.00

00:07:27.000 That is her schtick. 1.00

00:07:29.000 And she does it all the time. 1.00

00:07:31.000 And it comes off truly poorly.

00:07:34.000 She was incapable of answering very simple, basic softball questions in a convincing way.

00:07:39.000 She looked incredibly nervous.

00:07:40.000 Throughout the interview, her affect was very, very nervous.

00:07:44.000 She did not look comfortable.

00:07:46.000 She does not look comfortable with Tim Walz.

00:07:47.000 They do not look like they have an amazing dual dynamic unless they're actually on the move and bopping about town.

00:07:53.000 The minute they sit down and have to talk about policy, she looks like a person who should never be elevated again above middle management.

00:07:59.000 She does not have natural leadership quality.

00:08:01.000 She's not sitting there confidently telling you her positions.

00:08:05.000 She looks as though she's filing through very slowly, because she's not all that bright, the note cards in her head, looking for what she needs to say about a thing, because even she doesn't know what she believes about the thing.

00:08:16.000 And Tim Walz doesn't know what she believes about the thing.

00:08:19.000 So just the kind of general affect, off-putting, awkward, sort of strange, didn't feel particularly like a joyous inauguration.

00:08:33.000 Queen Kaye here, she was gone.

00:08:35.000 There was no Kamala Harris, empress of politics here. 0.87

00:08:38.000 This was Kamala Harris, mid-level small town mayor.

00:08:43.000 That's what this felt like.

00:08:45.000 And that's putting aside all the lies, and all the prevarications, and Dana Bash not following up, and Tim Walz doing his best used car salesman routine.

00:08:52.000 It was a bad performance.

00:08:53.000 Now, is it going to be an overwhelming bad reaction to Kamala Harris' performance?

00:08:57.000 No.

00:08:59.000 Because we've set the bar on American politics so low that if she didn't physically crap her pants like Joe Biden had been doing, then this meant that she was some sort of apotheosis of articulateness.

00:09:10.000 But in reality, it was not good.

00:09:12.000 And you can feel the vibe shift.

00:09:13.000 And this is the thing.

00:09:14.000 If Kamala Harris's campaign is all about vibes, if it's all about the dancing, and if it's all about the cooking, and if it's all about her getting Doritos, if it's all about that, then Kamala Harris is in good shape. 1.00

00:09:25.000 If, for just one single solitary second, the joy is drained, and what you actually feel like is that you're at the DMV with a person who's not particularly good at her job, she has a serious problem on her hands, and that's what it felt like last night.

00:09:38.000 You couldn't watch that and feel joy.

00:09:40.000 You couldn't.

00:09:41.000 The entire campaign has been built around joy.

00:09:43.000 There is nothing joyous about this interview.

00:09:45.000 She looks like she doesn't want to be there.

00:09:47.000 Tim Walz looks like he doesn't want to be there.

00:09:48.000 Dana Bash looks like she wants to be there, but has no idea what to ask.

00:09:53.000 Because Dana Bash knows she's got to catch 22.

00:09:55.000 If she pushes Harris too hard and Harris loses, Dana Bash will then be blamed for Harris losing. 0.99

00:10:00.000 If she doesn't push her enough, then people like me will say, truthfully, Dana did not do her job last night, which she did not.

00:10:07.000 So now let's get to the actual interview.

00:10:09.000 Remember, Dana Bash was selected for this interview specifically because she's very friendly to the Harris Walls campaign.

00:10:14.000 There's a reason they didn't do this interview with a far bigger audience with, like, Lester Holt.

00:10:19.000 The networks get way bigger numbers than CNN.

00:10:20.000 CNN has awful numbers, generally speaking.

00:10:24.000 But they chose Dana Bash because they knew they were gonna get some softball questions. 0.78

00:10:28.000 So this thing leads off and Dana Bash starts by praising the campaign bus outside.

00:10:33.000 Kamala Harris has been told by her handlers, by the way, not to laugh ever.

00:10:36.000 Like, don't laugh.

00:10:38.000 Make sure no one wants to hear the cackle.

00:10:40.000 Try to keep it hemmed in.

00:10:41.000 And so she does read stage directions.

00:10:43.000 I will say this for Kamala Harris.

00:10:44.000 She's not a good actress, but she's workmanlike in fulfilling the stage directions. 1.00

00:10:49.000 So if the order is don't laugh, Then she doesn't.

00:10:53.000 Instead, she kind of awkwardly grins and pretends joy.

00:10:57.000 But there is no joy here.

00:10:58.000 There was no joy in Mudville.

00:11:00.000 Here was the beginning of the interview.

00:11:02.000 Madam Vice President, Governor Walz, thank you so much for sitting down with me and bringing the bus.

00:11:07.000 The bus tour is well underway here in Georgia.

00:11:10.000 Oh, we're so happy.

00:11:11.000 And Tim Walz, there is the happy Corgi.

00:11:13.000 I see the media got very angry at my Corgi metaphor yesterday.

00:11:17.000 Yes, folks, it's a metaphor and a joke. 0.99

00:11:19.000 I'm sorry that you don't like metaphors and jokes about the Minnesota Corgi, who, by the way, proved that he is an idiot last night, as we will demonstrate. 0.97

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00:12:41.000 Okay, so, Dana Bash, her first question was, what are you gonna do day one?

00:12:45.000 Now, this is legitimately the easiest question in American politics.

00:12:49.000 If you have spent any amount of time in American politics, and you've ever thought about running for president, or what you would do as president, the first thing you think is, what would I do day one?

00:12:57.000 You could have asked Joe Biden this question anytime in 2020, and he would have listed off a bunch of things.

00:13:02.000 Donald Trump can tell you today, what would he do on the very first day?

00:13:06.000 This is the most predictable, obvious, and easy question.

00:13:09.000 And all Kamala Harris has to say about this question is, I would close the border. 0.93

00:13:15.000 The problem for her is that she's the current vice president of the United States. 1.00

00:13:19.000 So anything she says that is an executive policy shift is an inherent rebuke of the current president, who is her boss.

00:13:26.000 Even though he's dead.

00:13:27.000 And that's the problem for her.

00:13:29.000 If she says, I'm gonna do all these world-beating changes, day one, the follow-up from Dana could theoretically be, so why don't you do them now?

00:13:35.000 As we'll see, she did actually ask that question a little bit later on in the interview.

00:13:39.000 So, Kamala Harris, the problem for her is that she actually hasn't thought about these things, like at all.

00:13:43.000 Kamala Harris is simply an empty vessel doing whatever the party machine says she ought to do at any given time. 1.00

00:13:49.000 That means in 2019, she's anti-fracking, and today, she loves fracking.

00:13:53.000 It means that in 2019, she was open borders, and today, she's a border hawk.

00:13:57.000 Kamala Harris is a fresh coat of paint on a turd.

00:14:00.000 That's all she is.

00:14:00.000 The machine is the turd, Kamala Harris is the fresh coat of paint.

00:14:03.000 That's it.

00:14:04.000 So, she's asked by Diana Bashir, what are you gonna do day one?

00:14:08.000 And she proceeds to start chopping that word salad. 1.00

00:14:10.000 Kamala Harris, she loves to cook. 1.00

00:14:11.000 When we say she likes to cook, what we mean is, she gets out the words, she gets out the machete, and she goes to town.

00:14:17.000 Here we go.

00:14:19.000 You have less time to make your case to voters than any candidate in modern American history.

00:14:27.000 The voters are really eager to hear what your plans are.

00:14:29.000 If you are elected, what would you do on day one in the White House?

00:14:34.000 Well, there are a number of things.

00:14:36.000 I will tell you first and foremost, one of my highest priorities is to do what we can to support and strengthen the middle class.

00:14:46.000 When I look at the aspirations, the goals, the ambitions of the American people,

00:14:52.000 I think that people are ready for a new way forward.

00:14:57.000 In a way that generations of Americans have been fueled by hope and by optimism.

00:15:04.000 Hope and optimism?

00:15:06.000 I think sadly in the last decade we have had in the former president someone who has really been pushing an agenda and an environment that is about diminishing the character and the strength of who we are as Americans.

00:15:25.000 Okay, that is an objectively awful answer.

00:15:28.000 That's an objectively terrible answer.

00:15:29.000 Let me remind you, the actual question was, if you are elected, what would you do on day one in the White House?

00:15:35.000 Now, I'm gonna break this down for a second, because it is everything.

00:15:38.000 It is who Kamala Harris is as a human and as a politician.

00:15:41.000 She said, well, there are a number of things.

00:15:42.000 Hey, now, when you say there are a number of things, what you would expect is now a list of executive actions you would take on the very first day.

00:15:47.000 And that's what Joe Biden did.

00:15:49.000 He came into office and he signed 100,000 executive orders, completely overturning, say, a safe border, for example.

00:15:55.000 Or achieving equity inside various administrative agencies.

00:15:58.000 She says, I'm gonna do a number of things.

00:16:00.000 What are those things, Kamala? 0.93

00:16:02.000 Well, I will tell you first and foremost, one of my highest priorities is to do what we can.

00:16:08.000 That entire phrase means nothing.

00:16:10.000 You can just take it and trash it.

00:16:11.000 It means literally nothing.

00:16:12.000 It is just her vamping for time.

00:16:15.000 That is all. 1.00

00:16:15.000 It's just crap. 1.00

00:16:17.000 So she could have just said, well, there are a number of things. 0.99

00:16:19.000 Support and strengthen the middle class.

00:16:20.000 But support and strengthen the middle class isn't something you can do on day one.

00:16:24.000 Is there an executive order that says support and strengthen the middle class?

00:16:27.000 If so, I think we should all sign it.

00:16:30.000 I mean, that would be quite magical.

00:16:31.000 That's not an actual thing you can do on day one because that's nothing, it's nothing.

00:16:35.000 She follows up that nothing burger with this nothing burger.

00:16:38.000 When I look at the aspirations, the goals, the ambitions of the American people, again, totally meaningless phrase, totally, totally.

00:16:45.000 When I look at the goals, aspirations, achievements, wants, needs, desires of the American, it just gets out that Roget's thesaurus and starts going right through it.

00:16:55.000 I think people are ready for a new way forward.

00:16:57.000 Oh my gosh, as opposed to a new way backward, of course, a new way forward.

00:17:01.000 In a way, the generations of Americans have been fueled by hope and by optimism.

00:17:04.000 Okay, we are now a full paragraph deep and she has said zero things.

00:17:08.000 She is the candidate of nothing. 0.79

00:17:10.000 She is the candidate of emptiness.

00:17:12.000 Boo! 0.83

00:17:14.000 Boo! 0.83

00:17:15.000 The queen of slime! 0.98

00:17:16.000 It's just awful.

00:17:18.000 It's just awful stuff. 1.00

00:17:18.000 It's just crap. 1.00

00:17:20.000 And then she says, I think sadly, at least in the last decade, we've had in the former president, someone who's really been pushing an agenda and an environment. 0.99

00:17:26.000 Okay, now I'm just going to point out, the last decade, that's a period of time.

00:17:30.000 And as we will know from Kamala Harris, she thinks a lot about the significance of the passage of time.

00:17:34.000 She has all these verbal crutches. 1.00

00:17:36.000 Significance is a big one.

00:17:38.000 Time is another big one.

00:17:40.000 But, she says that the last decade has been the real problem.

00:17:43.000 Now, again, I may not be a mathematician, folks, but it is the year 2024.

00:17:50.000 The last decade, thus, began, if you're going to go back 10 years, in 2014.

00:17:55.000 The president in 2014 was a man named Barack Obama.

00:17:58.000 Barack Obama was president in 2014, 2015, and 2016.

00:18:03.000 That's three years.

00:18:04.000 Then Donald Trump was president for four years.

00:18:07.000 And then Joe Biden has been president for three and a half years.

00:18:10.000 So, of the last decade, a majority of it, Democrats ran the place.

00:18:14.000 So she's like, the last decade was really bad.

00:18:16.000 I'm sorry, you're the sitting vice president of the United States.

00:18:19.000 That's your fault!

00:18:20.000 It's your fault!

00:18:22.000 Now later, Dana Bash will ask her about that, and she will completely explode. 1.00

00:18:26.000 Like, the gears will stop clicking, and they'll start slipping, and it'll be a real problem for her. 0.83

00:18:30.000 But, that is her initial answer.

00:18:31.000 Again, the question was, what'll you do day one?

00:18:34.000 And she proceeds to vomit nothing.

00:18:36.000 Just dry-heave up a bunch of gobbledygook.

00:18:40.000 And then, Danabash has to follow up, and she's like, so, I'm just gonna reiterate, what do you wanna do, like, day one?

00:18:44.000 And she's like, would you like some more dry-heaving? 1.00

00:18:46.000 Let's do it.

00:18:47.000 So what would you do day one?

00:18:49.000 Day one, it's going to be about, one, implementing my plan for what I call an opportunity economy.

00:18:53.000 Oh, what you call an opportunity economy.

00:18:55.000 I've already laid out a number of proposals in that regard, which include what we're going to do to bring down the cost of everyday goods, what we're going to do to invest in America's small businesses, what we're going to do to invest... That's another paragraph of nothing.

00:19:06.000 In families, for example, extending the child tax credit to $6,000 for families for the first year of their child's life to help them buy a car seat, to help them buy baby clothes, a crib.

00:19:19.000 There's the work that we're gonna do that is about investing in the American family around affordable housing, a big issue in our country right now.

00:19:28.000 So there are a number of things on day one.

00:19:30.000 So literally the only proposal that's concrete that she makes there is to extend the child tax credit to $6,000.

00:19:35.000 Which is effectively a welfare scheme.

00:19:38.000 I mean, that is what she wants to do, is give more money to people. 1.00

00:19:40.000 By the way, it's not earmarked for their spending.

00:19:43.000 She's gonna throw money at people. 1.00

00:19:45.000 Okay, that's the one thing she says.

00:19:47.000 So we're now, you know, several minutes into this interview and she has said pretty much nothing.

00:19:52.000 That is just the beginning.

00:19:54.000 It gets worse from here.

00:19:55.000 So Danabash asks her about the opportunity economy.

00:19:58.000 Here is where this goes.

00:20:01.000 You call it the opportunity economy.

00:20:05.000 You are well aware that right now many Americans are struggling.

00:20:09.000 There's a crisis of affordability.

00:20:12.000 One of your campaign themes is we're not going back.

00:20:15.000 But I wonder what you say to voters who do want to go back when it comes to the economy specifically because their groceries were less expensive, housing was more affordable when Donald Trump was president.

00:20:29.000 Well, let's start with the fact that when Joe Biden and I came in office during the height of a pandemic, we saw over 10 million jobs were lost.

00:20:41.000 People, I mean, literally, we were all tracking the numbers.

00:20:46.000 Hundreds of people a day were dying because of COVID.

00:20:49.000 The economy had crashed.

00:20:50.000 Actually, the economy is in recovery.

00:20:51.000 In large part, all of that because of mismanagement by Donald Trump of that crisis.

00:20:55.000 More people died of COVID under her.

00:20:56.000 When we came in, our highest priority was to do what we could to rescue America.

00:21:01.000 And today, we know that we have inflation at under 3%.

00:21:05.000 Pause it there.

00:21:06.000 Okay, so I want to point out right here, this is where Dan and Bash should jump in and say, Donald Trump's inflation rate when he left office was 1.4%.

00:21:13.000 Your inflation rate today is 3%.

00:21:16.000 The Federal Reserve shoots for 2%.

00:21:20.000 You've had 40-year highs in inflation.

00:21:23.000 Right, that should be the follow-up.

00:21:23.000 The follow-up should be, you say you now brought it down below 3%.

00:21:26.000 Well, congrats-a-frickin-lations, all groceries are now 20 to 25% higher than they were when you took office.

00:21:33.000 So, how about that?

00:21:35.000 But of course there was no follow-up along these lines.

00:21:38.000 A lot of our policies have led to the reality that America recovered faster than any wealthy nation around the world.

00:21:45.000 But you are right.

00:21:46.000 Prices, in particular for groceries, are still too high.

00:21:49.000 The American people know it.

00:21:50.000 I know it.

00:21:51.000 Which is why my agenda includes what we need to do to bring down the price of groceries.

00:21:55.000 For example, dealing with an issue like price gouging.

00:21:57.000 What we need to do to extend the child tax credit to help young families be able to take care of their children in their most formative years.

00:22:06.000 What we need to do to bring Okay, so this is where Tana Bash theoretically should dig in, right? 1.00

00:22:10.000 She should say to her, okay, let's talk about price gouging.

00:22:13.000 Do you really believe that food is too expensive because the people over at Kroger's and Publix and Ralph's are just really, really great?

00:22:21.000 Is that your proposal?

00:22:23.000 Is that your thing?

00:22:24.000 But no, is there any digging?

00:22:25.000 Of course not.

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00:23:34.000 Okay, but I will say this.

00:23:36.000 Dana Bash did ask the question that I've been asking.

00:23:38.000 So, half marks to Dana Bash here.

00:23:40.000 She says, um, I noticed that you're talking about a lot of the things that you want to do.

00:23:44.000 You've been vice president for three and a half years.

00:23:45.000 Why didn't you do any of them?

00:23:47.000 You have been vice president for three and a half years.

00:23:51.000 The steps that you're talking about now, why haven't you done them already?

00:23:55.000 Well, first of all, we had to recover as an economy, and we have done that.

00:23:59.000 I'm very proud of the work that we have done that has brought inflation down to less than 3%.

00:24:03.000 The work that we have done to cap the cost of insulin at $35 a month for seniors.

00:24:09.000 Donald Trump said he was going to do a number of things, including allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices.

00:24:13.000 Never happened.

00:24:14.000 We did it.

00:24:16.000 So, Bash follows up and she says, um, so are you saying Bidenomics is a success?

00:24:20.000 And again, these are all things that Kamala Harris should have answers to. 0.99

00:24:23.000 And she doesn't.

00:24:24.000 Because if she says Bidenomics is a success, that is a campaign commercial.

00:24:28.000 And if she says Bidenomics is not a success, that's a campaign commercial.

00:24:31.000 So instead, she filibusters.

00:24:33.000 You maintain Bidenomics is a success.

00:24:36.000 I maintain that when we do the work of bringing down prescription medication for the American people, including capping the cost of the annual cost of prescription medication for seniors at $2,000, when we do what we did... Okay, and then she just word salads this thing.

00:24:51.000 Okay, so, again, do you get the feeling from her this is a woman who is confident in her ability to handle crisis?

00:24:56.000 This is a person who is solid in her belief system?

00:24:59.000 Is that what you got?

00:25:00.000 I don't get that.

00:25:01.000 I don't feel any of this.

00:25:02.000 By the way, Tim Walz has spoken almost no words at this point, which means she brought him along again as her emotional support animal.

00:25:10.000 He's just sitting there the whole time doing nothing, doing nothing, looking big and white and midwestern.

00:25:15.000 That's literally his job.

00:25:17.000 He's just sitting there doing that the whole time.

00:25:20.000 It's super strange.

00:25:22.000 It's real weird.

00:25:23.000 Now, the real reason that she brought Tim Walz there, not just because he's an emotional support animal and because she was hoping that he would eat up some time if things started to get a little bit dicey, but also because she is hoping that having appeared now with Tim Walz, she can avoid all further interviews until after the debate.

00:25:39.000 That's going to be the outcome of this.

00:25:40.000 She will not do another major quote-unquote adversarial interview for another two weeks.

00:25:45.000 She's gonna wait until the ballots start going out. 1.00

00:25:46.000 And she's gonna count on the American people being stupid enough to be willing to gamble on her despite the fact that she's a liar about everything and has shifted all of her positions. 1.00

00:25:55.000 That was the whole goal. 1.00

00:25:55.000 Just get this thing off the table without a major boo-boo. 1.00

00:26:00.000 There were some somewhat major boo-boos, as we'll get to in a moment, but the biggest boo-boo of all is that the veneer is off.

00:26:06.000 The finish is off.

00:26:08.000 This shiny, brand-new object has been dented.

00:26:11.000 Not by Dana Bash, but by Kamala Harris herself, who's not good at this. 1.00

00:26:14.000 So, perhaps the most damaging segment of this interview is where Dana Bash asked, you know, when you were in Congress, you supported the Green New Deal and you wanted to ban fracking, so what changed for you?

00:26:26.000 When you were in Congress, you supported the Green New Deal.

00:26:30.000 And in 2019, you said, quote, there is no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.

00:26:35.000 Fracking, as you know, is a pretty big issue, particularly in your must-win state of Pennsylvania.

00:26:40.000 Do you still want to ban fracking?

00:26:43.000 No, and I made that clear on the debate stage in 2020, that I would not ban fracking.

00:26:49.000 As vice president, I did not ban fracking.

00:26:51.000 As president, I will not ban fracking.

00:26:55.000 In 2019, I believe, at a town hall, you said, you were asked, would you commit to implementing a federal ban on fracking on your first day in office?

00:27:03.000 And you said, there's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.

00:27:06.000 So, yes.

00:27:07.000 So, it changed in that campaign?

00:27:10.000 In 2020, I made very clear where I stand.

00:27:12.000 We are in 2024, and I've not changed that position, nor will I going forward.

00:27:16.000 I kept my word, and I will keep my word.

00:27:18.000 Let's be clear.

00:27:19.000 My values have not changed.

00:27:21.000 I believe it is very important that we take seriously what we must do to guard against what is a clear crisis in terms of the climate.

00:27:32.000 And to do that, we can do what we have accomplished thus far.

00:27:36.000 Okay, that's enough of this nonsense.

00:27:39.000 There's a lot to unpack here.

00:27:40.000 She's asked about the fact that she used to want to ban fracking in 2019.

00:27:44.000 So first she lies and says that she reversed her position in 2020.

00:27:46.000 She didn't.

00:27:47.000 She repeated Joe Biden's position in 2020.

00:27:49.000 She was the vice presidential nominee at that time. 0.87

00:27:51.000 At no point in her presidential campaign, before she stepped out, did she ever reverse her position on fracking.

00:27:57.000 So she's lying.

00:27:58.000 In 2020, she was then Joe Biden's VP.

00:28:00.000 And she said Joe Biden does not support a ban on fracking. 0.99

00:28:03.000 Which is true, because Joe Biden is less of an idiot than Kamala Harris, even in his state of dementia. 0.99

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00:29:08.000 So, she lies about her own position.

00:29:10.000 Then she says, and I've not changed my position since.

00:29:13.000 And then she says my values haven't changed.

00:29:15.000 This is all an internal contradiction.

00:29:17.000 Logically, you can't say my values never changed.

00:29:20.000 But, my policies changed.

00:29:22.000 But now you should believe me because they never changed.

00:29:26.000 It's utterly unworkable.

00:29:27.000 Totally unworkable.

00:29:29.000 So then, Dana Bash starts actually trying to feed her the answers.

00:29:35.000 She says, was there some sort of, you know, policy thing that made you change?

00:29:38.000 Like, what made you change?

00:29:40.000 Maybe you changed because, you know, you saw new data.

00:29:43.000 Or maybe you changed because you evolved.

00:29:45.000 Like, Dana Bash is so upset with how this is going that she starts feeding her multiple choice answers.

00:29:51.000 Was there some policy or scientific data that you saw that you said, oh, okay, I get it now?

00:29:58.000 What I have seen is that we can grow and we can increase a thriving clean energy economy without banning fracking.

00:30:08.000 Well, I mean, I'm glad that you repeated the answer you just gave her!

00:30:11.000 Back to you!

00:30:12.000 That's exciting!

00:30:13.000 Have you seen some new data?

00:30:14.000 Yes, in fact, I have.

00:30:17.000 Look at how she has to think about every single word coming out of her mouth. 1.00

00:30:20.000 There's nothing naturalistic about Kamala Harris's politics.

00:30:23.000 Nothing.

00:30:24.000 You could not wake her up at 3 in the morning and ask her positions.

00:30:27.000 You couldn't.

00:30:27.000 You couldn't for anyone who watches politics.

00:30:30.000 If you woke me up at 3 in the morning and asked my position on abortion, I actually could give it to you. 0.52

00:30:34.000 If you woke Kamala Harris at three in the morning and said, what do you believe about fracking today?

00:30:38.000 She would immediately have to fire off an angry letter to her inferiors, trying to have them explain what is the best position she should take at this very moment. 0.99

00:30:48.000 Pathetic, pathetic stuff. 0.99

00:30:49.000 Again, she is not, she is not primetime ready. 1.00

00:30:52.000 She's not.

00:30:53.000 She is an actor who can act in front of a camera when given lines, when given a teleprompter, and when given stage directions.

00:30:58.000 And when she is not given that, she is toast.

00:31:01.000 She has a major, major problem.

00:31:04.000 Then, Dana Bash gets to her Borders are job. 1.00

00:31:08.000 Now, Dana Bash never asked her about being Borders are because there's been an order put down, presumably at CNN,

00:31:13.000 you must never say Borders are because that might mean she's in charge of the border 0.82

00:31:16.000 policy.

00:31:17.000 And Harris then defends her work on the border and blames Donald Trump for the border.

00:31:22.000 This dog ain't gonna hunt, folks.

00:31:23.000 This is week T.

00:31:25.000 As vice president, you were tasked with addressing the root causes of migration

00:31:31.000 in Southern countries and- Northern part of Central America.

00:31:36.000 The Northern part of Central America that deals with, that affects the Southern border of the US.

00:31:42.000 During the Biden-Harris administration, there were record numbers of illegal border crossings.

00:31:48.000 Why did the Biden-Harris administration wait three and a half years

00:31:51.000 to implement sweeping asylum restrictions?

00:31:54.000 Well, first of all, the root causes work that I did as vice president,

00:31:59.000 that I was asked to do by the president, has actually resulted in a number of benefits,

00:32:04.000 including historic investments by American businesses in that region. Historic investments.

00:32:09.000 The number of immigrants coming from that region has actually reduced.

00:32:14.000 You mean since the all-time highs?

00:32:16.000 I will say this.

00:32:18.000 Joe Biden and I, and our administration, worked with members of the United States Congress on an immigration- Okay, and then she blames Trump. 0.94

00:32:26.000 Okay, again, there's no answer to this.

00:32:28.000 So Bash asks, again, in 2019, you raised your hand when you were asked whether the border should be decriminalized.

00:32:33.000 And then Kamala's like, but I was a tough-on-crime prosecutor.

00:32:36.000 No, you weren't.

00:32:36.000 You were a San Francisco liberal prosecutor.

00:32:38.000 You were like a George Soros prosecutor in California.

00:32:42.000 One other question about something that you said in 2019 when you first ran.

00:32:47.000 There was a debate.

00:32:48.000 You raised your hand when asked whether or not the border should be decriminalized.

00:32:55.000 Do you still believe that?

00:32:57.000 I believe there should be consequence.

00:32:58.000 We have laws that have to be followed and enforced, that address and deal with people who cross our border illegally. 1.00

00:33:07.000 And there should be consequence.

00:33:08.000 It's just, it's just.

00:33:09.000 In this race, I'm the only person You have not prosecuted anyone for illegal immigration. 0.54

00:33:16.000 No one.

00:33:16.000 California was a giant vacuum for illegal immigration.

00:33:18.000 I lived there when she was AG.

00:33:20.000 Illegal immigrants were crossing into the state like nobody's business when she was AG.

00:33:25.000 They still are. 1.00

00:33:26.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00

00:33:26.000 She's a ridiculous person. 1.00

00:33:27.000 for illegal immigration. 1.00

00:33:29.000 I recognize the problem.

00:33:30.000 I lived there when she was AG.

00:33:32.000 Illegal immigrants were crossing into the state like nobody's business when she was 1.00

00:33:35.000 AG.

00:33:36.000 They still are. 0.98

00:33:37.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00

00:33:38.000 She's a ridiculous person. 1.00

00:33:39.000 She's a totally ridiculous person. 1.00

00:33:41.000 So Bash asked her again the key question. 0.99

00:33:42.000 you You keep saying that you're changing all your policies.

00:33:46.000 Why?

00:33:47.000 Why?

00:33:48.000 And then she starts again.

00:33:49.000 The word salad is so thick.

00:33:51.000 It's just a miasma of nothing.

00:33:52.000 It's a miasma of foggy nothing.

00:33:54.000 It's unbelievable that people take these folks seriously.

00:33:58.000 She is just not bright enough to be president of the United States. 1.00

00:34:00.000 I'm sorry that she's stupid. 1.00

00:34:02.000 You picked her. 1.00

00:34:04.000 And the way I can tell she's stupid is because she answers questions the same way a college freshman would in their first Intro to Philosophy class. 1.00

00:34:13.000 It is total, nonsensical, gobbledygook, jargony trash. 1.00

00:34:17.000 Here we go. 0.95

00:34:19.000 How should voters look at some of the changes that you've made, that you've explained some of here, in your policy?

00:34:28.000 Is it because you have more experience now and you've learned more about the information?

00:34:33.000 Because you were running for president in a Democratic primary, and should they feel comfortable and confident that what you're saying now is going to be your policy moving forward?

00:34:43.000 Dana, I think the most important and most significant aspect of my policy perspective and decisions is my values have not changed.

00:34:54.000 You mentioned the Green New Deal.

00:34:57.000 I have always believed, and I have worked on it, that the climate crisis is real, that it is an urgent matter, to which we should apply metrics that include holding ourselves to deadlines around time.

00:35:10.000 Okay, stop it right there.

00:35:11.000 That's enough.

00:35:11.000 I can't.

00:35:12.000 I can't.

00:35:12.000 I cannot.

00:35:13.000 I can't.

00:35:15.000 First of all, again, her body language is that this is an adversarial interview.

00:35:18.000 Dana is a friend.

00:35:20.000 Dana Bash is a friend of the campaign.

00:35:22.000 And this is an adversarial interview because she is not capable. 0.54

00:35:25.000 She is incapable.

00:35:26.000 And let me just read you these sentences that came out of her face hole slowly here. 0.99

00:35:30.000 Dana, I think the, the, the most important and most significant aspect of my policy perspective and decisions Total vacuous crap. 0.97

00:35:40.000 My values have not changed.

00:35:40.000 All she had to say there was, my values have not changed.

00:35:43.000 Then she says, you mentioned the Green New Deal.

00:35:45.000 I have always believed, and I have worked on it, that the climate crisis is real, that it is an urgent matter to which we should apply metrics that include holding ourselves to deadlines around time.

00:35:55.000 Wow, deep thoughts, deadlines around time?

00:35:58.000 My God, you mean as opposed to deadlines around space?

00:36:02.000 Deadlines around mass?

00:36:05.000 Deadlines around height?

00:36:07.000 Deadlines around time.

00:36:08.000 I wish I had thought of that.

00:36:09.000 I wish I had thought of deadlines around time.

00:36:10.000 You know what?

00:36:11.000 I should actually try that with the staff.

00:36:12.000 Maybe that's why we're always running behind.

00:36:13.000 Whenever I set a deadline, I'm like, you know what, guys?

00:36:15.000 You have a deadline.

00:36:16.000 The deadline is three kilograms.

00:36:19.000 And they're like, what?

00:36:19.000 I'm like, yes, three kilograms.

00:36:21.000 Like, could you translate it in terms of time?

00:36:23.000 I'm like, oh my God, I should have thought of that.

00:36:24.000 A deadline around time. 1.00

00:36:27.000 She is a dullard. 1.00

00:36:30.000 She's a dullard. 1.00

00:36:30.000 I'm sorry that it's taking the veneer off your joy, that you were so joyous. 1.00

00:36:34.000 Oh my God, Joe Biden's dead and we find the queen is here.

00:36:37.000 Oh my God, slay queen.

00:36:39.000 Oh, so she's dancing and cooking. 1.00

00:36:41.000 Oh joy. 1.00

00:36:42.000 And then it turns out that you found a stupid person and the stupid person that you picked for vice president was the only person you could consolidate around. 1.00

00:36:51.000 And then she gives stupid answers because she's stupid. 1.00

00:36:54.000 It's not my fault. 1.00

00:36:54.000 She's stupid. 1.00

00:36:55.000 It's your fault. 1.00

00:36:56.000 She's stupid. 1.00

00:36:56.000 You picked her. 1.00

00:36:59.000 These answers are stupid! 1.00

00:37:00.000 They're stupid people answers! 1.00

00:37:02.000 I'm sorry if I'm getting a little exercised about this, but I feel like we now live in a stupid person's political world. 1.00

00:37:06.000 Very, very stupid. 1.00

00:37:08.000 Just generally speaking. 1.00

00:37:10.000 I know, I hold myself to the standard of, you know, there was a time when Abraham Lincoln was the President of the United States.

00:37:15.000 But hell, there was a time when Bill Clinton, who was a pretty smart guy, was president of the United States, even if he was wrong about a lot of things.

00:37:21.000 Even Barack Obama was a fairly smart individual. 1.00

00:37:24.000 This person is stuuupid with eight Os in the middle. 1.00

00:37:28.000 And they keep trying to pretend that there is something there. 1.00

00:37:31.000 There is no there there.

00:37:33.000 It's like Gertrude Stein's explanation of Oakland.

00:37:35.000 There's no there there.

00:37:36.000 But they keep trying to make fetch happen.

00:37:38.000 They keep trying it.

00:37:41.000 There's a reason they're gonna keep her away from the cameras. 0.79

00:37:42.000 They have to.

00:37:43.000 They don't have a choice.

00:37:43.000 They have to keep her away from the cameras.

00:37:45.000 In a second, we'll get to the person she picked for her second in command, Tim Walls, who just... When I said that he is a stupid corgi, when I said that he's got the dumb sitcom dad energy, He then went out and actually just did it. 0.99

00:37:59.000 He actually just did it in this interview. 1.00

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00:39:10.000 There's nothing better possible than what will happen to you if you tell the truth.

00:39:16.000 It doesn't matter how it looks to you.

00:39:18.000 And that's a terrifying thing, you know, because obviously you get in trouble for telling the truth.

00:39:22.000 That's why everyone lies.

00:39:24.000 And I believe that.

00:39:25.000 And how could it be otherwise?

00:39:27.000 What are you going to do?

00:39:27.000 You're going to make the proposition that you bring about the order that is good in the world by lying.

00:39:34.000 Who the hell believes that?

00:39:35.000 No one believes that. 0.65

00:39:37.000 They might think they can get away with it.

00:39:38.000 They might use it for manipulative purposes.

00:39:41.000 But no one thinks that the path to paradise is paved with lies.

00:39:47.000 If you believed that, it would destroy you if you truly believed it.

00:39:50.000 Don't miss this awesome episode of the Sunday Special with Jordan B. Peterson.

00:39:59.000 So, let's be real.

00:40:00.000 I've been a little harsh on Kamala Harris here, right? 1.00

00:40:02.000 Because I keep saying that she's not particularly smart, that she's kind of dumb. 0.99

00:40:05.000 And I'm not apologizing for that, because, I mean, she is. 0.99

00:40:09.000 I'm sorry.

00:40:10.000 She is, again.

00:40:11.000 I didn't do it.

00:40:12.000 You guys did it.

00:40:14.000 Dana Bash was handing her questions on a silver platter, questions for which she should have been amply prepared, and she was incapable of answering any of those questions.

00:40:23.000 By the way, one additional answer she should have had prepared here.

00:40:27.000 So, um, Dana Bash did ask her about Joe Biden's capacity to do four more years.

00:40:33.000 She said, you know, you're a big defender of Joe Biden, saying that Joe Biden was with us.

00:40:38.000 And it turns out that Joe Biden wasn't with us.

00:40:40.000 Do you have any regrets about that?

00:40:42.000 This is where Dana Bash, with one follow-up question, could have finished Kamala Harris. 0.91

00:40:46.000 But she didn't ask it, because she doesn't want to do that.

00:40:48.000 But here was Kamala Harris maintaining that Joe Biden is still, today, as he sleeps on a beach.

00:40:54.000 Sharp.

00:40:54.000 With it.

00:40:55.000 Intelligent.

00:40:56.000 The follow-up question would have been, so why isn't he running?

00:40:59.000 Why did you go along with the coup?

00:41:01.000 You can't have it both ways.

00:41:03.000 Either he's incapable of being president and the candidate, or he's fully capable, in which case, you shouldn't be here, I should be interviewing the old man.

00:41:10.000 The Kamala Harris is stuck between a rock and a hard place because Democrats want it both ways. 1.00

00:41:13.000 Here we go.

00:41:15.000 You were a very staunch defender of President Biden's capacity to serve another four years.

00:41:20.000 Right after the debate, you insisted that President Biden is extraordinarily strong.

00:41:25.000 Given where we are now, do you have any regrets about what you told the American people?

00:41:31.000 No, not at all.

00:41:32.000 Not at all. I have served with President Biden for almost four years now, and I'll tell you,

00:41:40.000 it's one of the greatest honors of my career, truly. He cares so deeply about the American

00:41:47.000 people. He is so smart and loyal to the American people.

00:41:55.000 And I have spent hours upon hours with him, be it in the Oval Office or the Situation Room.

00:42:01.000 He has the intelligence, the commitment, and the judgment and disposition that I think the American people rightly deserve in their president.

00:42:13.000 By contrast, the former president has none of that.

00:42:16.000 Of course, the last three and a half years has been part of your administration.

00:42:20.000 I'm talking about an era. 0.78

00:42:22.000 She's so terrible. 0.85

00:42:23.000 She's so terrible. 0.90

00:42:23.000 ago where there is some suggestion warped I believe it to be that the 0.90

00:42:32.000 measure of the strength of a leader is based on who you beat down. She's so

00:42:35.000 terrible she's so terrible again where's the follow-up why didn't Dan ask

00:42:40.000 You keep talking about him in these glowing terms.

00:42:41.000 In fact, if I played an interview of you now talking about Joe Biden, an interview before he dropped out, and before the debate, they'd be identical.

00:42:48.000 So, why is he out?

00:42:49.000 Why are you here?

00:42:50.000 What are you doing here?

00:42:52.000 If he's incapable, why don't you use the 25th Amendment to get the man who's had a clear schedule for the last two weeks in the middle of an international crisis in the Middle East, in Ukraine, a lot of bad stuff happening, where is he?

00:43:06.000 Does Dana ask any of those questions?

00:43:07.000 Of course not. 0.98

00:43:07.000 Okay, now we get to the even dumber member of the pair, Tim Walz. 0.98

00:43:11.000 So, Tim Walz, I mentioned yesterday, and apparently the media didn't like it, that he is a stupid corgi. 1.00

00:43:16.000 That he has high levels of enthusiasm and very low levels of intelligence. 1.00

00:43:20.000 Tim Walz.

00:43:22.000 He's doing the whole, I'm a Midwestern dad, thing.

00:43:25.000 He's doing that thing a lot, the Coach Walz thing.

00:43:27.000 But here's the thing, he lies all the time.

00:43:29.000 He lied about his DUI back in 1995.

00:43:31.000 He lied about his military service.

00:43:34.000 He lies about pretty much all in his resume it's possible to lie about.

00:43:37.000 He does it all the time.

00:43:39.000 And so then Tim Walz just said the thing. 0.98

00:43:43.000 I mean, I've been saying he's kind of a dummy. 1.00

00:43:45.000 And a liar. 0.99

00:43:47.000 And so he had to pick one. 1.00

00:43:47.000 So he picked dummy. 1.00

00:43:49.000 So again, the media were angry at me for calling him a stupid corgi yesterday. 1.00

00:43:53.000 Well, then he just said he was a stupid corgi, so your problem, not mine. 1.00

00:43:58.000 I want to ask you a question about how you've described your service in the National Guard. 1.00

00:44:03.000 You said that you carried weapons in war, but you have never deployed, actually, in a war zone.

00:44:09.000 A campaign official said that you misspoke.

00:44:12.000 Did you?

00:44:13.000 Well, first of all, I'm incredibly proud.

00:44:15.000 I've done 24 years of wearing the uniform of this country.

00:44:18.000 Equally proud of my service in a public school classroom, whether it's Congress or the governor.

00:44:24.000 My record speaks for itself, but I think people are coming to get to know me.

00:44:27.000 I speak like they do.

00:44:29.000 I speak candidly, I wear my emotions on my sleeves and I speak especially passionately about our children being shot in schools and around guns.

00:44:39.000 So I think people know me, they know who I am, they know where my heart is and again my record has been out there for over 40 years to speak for itself.

00:44:49.000 The idea that you said that you were in war.

00:44:51.000 Yeah.

00:44:52.000 Did you misspeak, as the campaign has said?

00:44:54.000 Yeah, I said we were talking about, in this case, this was after a school shooting, the ideas of carrying these weapons of war.

00:44:59.000 And my wife, the English tone in my grammar is not always correct.

00:45:03.000 You know, me no speak the English good.

00:45:05.000 Actually, I was a coach.

00:45:06.000 I've been hit in the head a few times.

00:45:08.000 Me and my English, I don't know, my English just isn't good.

00:45:12.000 Me no speak the English.

00:45:14.000 No sprechen Deutsch.

00:45:19.000 Okay, you didn't say that you carried weapons in war cuz your English wasn't good.

00:45:23.000 Cuz you no speaka de English de good.

00:45:26.000 Tim Walz, supposedly a teacher, doesn't know grammar. 1.00

00:45:28.000 He big stupid man from Midwest. 1.00

00:45:30.000 He no expected to not lie. 1.00

00:45:31.000 He stupid. 1.00

00:45:32.000 So here's the thing. 1.00

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00:46:37.000 So his excuse is, I'm an idiot who doesn't know grammar. 1.00

00:46:40.000 You teach at a high school. 1.00

00:46:42.000 That's your entire campaign.

00:46:44.000 Your entire campaign is that you're a down-home high school teacher.

00:46:48.000 But you don't know how prepositions work?

00:46:50.000 How about that time that you were holding an actual sign that said that you were a veteran of the Afghan war?

00:46:55.000 Like in 2004.

00:46:56.000 How about that?

00:46:59.000 Was that also bad grammar? 1.00

00:47:01.000 He's a liar. 1.00

00:47:02.000 He's a liar. 1.00

00:47:02.000 But again, when it comes to lying, you really have only two excuses. 1.00

00:47:05.000 He could just say he... Again, Dana's trying to feed him the answer.

00:47:08.000 Dana's like, did you misspeak?

00:47:10.000 Did you misspeak?

00:47:10.000 He should have just said, yes, I misspoke.

00:47:12.000 I wasn't in war.

00:47:13.000 I was in the military for 24 years.

00:47:16.000 I made a mistake.

00:47:17.000 I misspoke.

00:47:18.000 It came out wrong.

00:47:19.000 Instead we get the, no, no, no, no, no.

00:47:22.000 I didn't misspeak.

00:47:23.000 My grammar is just bad.

00:47:24.000 I don't know how sentences work in English.

00:47:26.000 Wow, what a high powered couple this ticket is.

00:47:29.000 Just amazing, amazing stuff.

00:47:32.000 Honestly, the most amusing part of this interview, was when Kamala Harris started to tell the story of how she found out that Joe Biden had dropped out of the race.

00:47:39.000 I do love it when interview subjects will turn to an interviewer and do what Kamala does right here, which is she says to Tana, I'm going to give you a little, you know, I don't want to give too much information.

00:47:48.000 Tana's like, go on.

00:47:49.000 There's no, go on.

00:47:51.000 There's no such thing as too much information.

00:47:52.000 There's no TMI here.

00:47:54.000 And you're like, wow, she's going to give too much information.

00:47:56.000 Like what's the TMI going to be?

00:47:57.000 It's probably going to be pretty juicy, right?

00:47:58.000 Yeah, here we go.

00:48:02.000 When he called you and said he was pulling out of the race, what was that like?

00:48:06.000 And did he offer to endorse you right away, or did you ask for it?

00:48:10.000 It was, um, it was a Sunday.

00:48:14.000 So, here, I'll give you a little too much information.

00:48:17.000 Go for it.

00:48:18.000 There's no such thing, Madam Vice President.

00:48:20.000 My family was staying with us.

00:48:22.000 Wow.

00:48:24.000 That is a lot of information.

00:48:25.000 Including my baby nieces.

00:48:26.000 Oh, whoa.

00:48:27.000 And we had just had Pancakes and, you know, auntie, can I have more bacon?

00:48:34.000 Yes, I'll make you more bacon.

00:48:35.000 Wow.

00:48:35.000 And then we were going to sit, we were sitting down to do a puzzle.

00:48:41.000 Wow.

00:48:41.000 Shocking information.

00:48:43.000 And the phone rang and it was Joe Biden.

00:48:45.000 Wow.

00:48:45.000 That was a lot of information.

00:48:46.000 Too much to take in almost.

00:48:47.000 And he told me what he had decided to do.

00:48:49.000 And, um, back to the fake solemnity.

00:48:52.000 I asked him, are you sure?

00:48:53.000 And he said, yes.

00:48:57.000 And, um, But that's how I learned about it.

00:49:03.000 What about the endorsement?

00:49:04.000 Did you ask for it?

00:49:06.000 He was very clear that he was gonna support me.

00:49:08.000 So when he called to tell you, he said, I'm pulling out of the race and I'm gonna support you. 1.00

00:49:12.000 Well, my first thought was not about me.

00:49:17.000 Oh yeah, right.

00:49:17.000 To be honest.

00:49:18.000 To be honest.

00:49:19.000 To be fully honest.

00:49:20.000 I'm just that humble.

00:49:21.000 Says Kamala Harris, who stole his nomination. 0.74

00:49:22.000 History is going to show a number of things about Joe Biden.

00:49:24.000 Oh, I don't want to hear the rest of this.

00:49:25.000 Oh my God.

00:49:26.000 Did you hear all that too much information?

00:49:27.000 That's how down home and down to earth she is. 0.99

00:49:29.000 She's just, you know what?

00:49:30.000 I'm going to give you a little too much information.

00:49:32.000 I was like a saint preparing bacon for my baby nieces when I got a call from old Joe Biden.

00:49:38.000 And then she puts on the expression that you would get if you heard that your grandmother wanted to be euthanized.

00:49:45.000 And then he told me.

00:49:46.000 That's how I found out.

00:49:47.000 And did you think for any second about the inheritance?

00:49:49.000 No!

00:49:53.000 Me?

00:49:54.000 No! 1.00

00:49:57.000 If you fall for this, you're as stupid as she is. 1.00

00:50:00.000 If you fall for this, again, you can vote against Donald Trump because you don't like Donald Trump or you don't like his policies. 1.00

00:50:04.000 Fine.

00:50:04.000 But please stop peeing on everybody's leg and telling us that she's a candidate of joy and intelligence and incisive brilliance.

00:50:11.000 She is clearly not, which is why they're going to stock her back in the telepromptered closet all the way up until the debate.

00:50:21.000 Because they cannot have her running around loose on the landscape.

00:50:23.000 They can't.

00:50:24.000 They cannot put her in front of cameras where she will answer questions without a teleprompter. 0.73

00:50:28.000 They can't do it.

00:50:29.000 This was as softball an interview as it's possible to be.

00:50:32.000 It was 16 minutes and a lifetime.

00:50:34.000 And so, what's the actual outcome?

00:50:36.000 Does it end her campaign? 0.98

00:50:37.000 It doesn't end her campaign.

00:50:38.000 Does it change the nature of her campaign? 0.98

00:50:40.000 Yes, it does.

00:50:41.000 Because again, if you watch that and you feel the joy, I'll tell you what Democrats are feeling when they watch that.

00:50:46.000 What they feel is like, at best, they feel like, Okay, she escaped.

00:50:51.000 That's what they feel at best.

00:50:52.000 They feel like, oh my god, that's a relief.

00:50:53.000 Okay, she didn't completely go up.

00:50:55.000 She didn't completely implode like Joe Biden on the debate stage.

00:50:59.000 I feel a little better.

00:51:01.000 Well, that is a big difference from, celebrate the joy!

00:51:04.000 Let's all sing YMCA together!

00:51:06.000 That's a big difference.

00:51:07.000 And that is a problem for Team Kamala Harris.

00:51:10.000 Because without the joy, she ain't nothing.

00:51:12.000 Without the manufactured joy, she ain't nothing.

00:51:14.000 Watch CNN try to talk themselves into Kamala after this interview.

00:51:18.000 Watch this.

00:51:18.000 It really is.

00:51:19.000 It's an impressive show.

00:51:21.000 I think she did what she needed to do.

00:51:23.000 What she needed to do was be the same person that people have seen on the stage for the last month and have seen a new sense of sort of confidence, of calm and comfortable comfort that we haven't seen before.

00:51:40.000 I think there's been a consistent story of growth.

00:51:42.000 She's been in more of these settings.

00:51:43.000 I think we saw that somewhat tonight.

00:51:45.000 I also think to the question about how policy positions have changed.

00:51:48.000 They were clearly ready with an answer about how the values have been consistent.

00:51:52.000 It's really interesting because for someone who doesn't want to talk about race and gender, who doesn't want to kind of put that identity forward, it is allowing her to make the case of change without kind of saying those words.

00:52:03.000 And so I thought that was really in the air of this speech.

00:52:06.000 She answered every question.

00:52:07.000 Now, you might not like the way she answered them, but she answered them as a capable, qualified leader.

00:52:11.000 And I do think she... I think she moved the ball forward a little bit.

00:52:16.000 Those are her allies. 0.52

00:52:17.000 Those are her allies. 0.52

00:52:19.000 Her allies are like, she might have done okay.

00:52:20.000 She moved the ball forward like a little bit.

00:52:22.000 I mean, it was like not the worst thing I ever saw.

00:52:25.000 Hey, that's how you know it wasn't good.

00:52:27.000 And that's how you know they're going to restock her back in the teleprompter closet. 0.96

00:52:30.000 That's what they're gonna do.

00:52:32.000 Meanwhile, the Trump campaign is on the offense as they need to be.

00:52:36.000 So yesterday, the Trump campaign released an immediate ad after Kamala Harris said that her values had not changed, putting forward like, yeah, we know her values haven't changed because she's a radical and she always was.

00:52:47.000 My values have not changed.

00:52:49.000 There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.

00:52:51.000 You know, we have to stay woke.

00:52:54.000 Like, everybody needs to be woke.

00:52:58.000 And you can talk about if you're the wokest or woker, but just stay more woke than less woke.

00:53:04.000 The people who are convicted, in prison, like the Boston Marathon bomber, on death row, people who are convicted of sexual assault, they shouldn't be able to vote.

00:53:13.000 I think we should have that conversation.

00:53:15.000 What would you do about the millions of, specifically, assault weapons that are already in circulation?

00:53:22.000 What do you do about those?

00:53:24.000 Well, there are approximately 5 million, to your point, Craig.

00:53:26.000 We have to have a buyback program, and I support a mandatory buyback program.

00:53:30.000 It is outdated, it is wrong-headed thinking to think that the only way you're going to

00:53:36.000 get communities to be safe is to put more police officers on the street.

00:53:40.000 Also says, quote, every individual who is a resident of the United States is entitled to benefits for health care services under this act.

00:53:47.000 Not every individual is a citizen, but every individual who's a resident.

00:53:51.000 So you support giving universal health care, Medicare for all, to people who are in this country illegally? 0.98

00:53:57.000 Let me just be very clear about this.

00:53:59.000 I am opposed to any policy that would deny in our country any human being from access to public safety, public education, or public health.

00:54:11.000 Period.

00:54:12.000 To reiterate, you support the Medicare for All bill, I think, initially co-sponsored by Senator Bernie Sanders.

00:54:17.000 You're also a co-sponsor.

00:54:18.000 Yes.

00:54:19.000 I believe it will totally eliminate private insurance.

00:54:23.000 So for people out there who like their insurance, they don't get to keep it.

00:54:27.000 Let's eliminate all of that.

00:54:28.000 Let's move on.

00:54:30.000 How dare we speak Merry Christmas?

00:54:32.000 How dare we?

00:54:34.000 And yeah, I am a rapper.

00:54:36.000 My values have not changed.

00:54:41.000 This is true.

00:54:41.000 Kamala's values haven't changed.

00:54:43.000 Yes, that is correct.

00:54:44.000 So, President Trump was on the stump yesterday and he was pushing precisely this.

00:54:48.000 This needs to be the campaign.

00:54:50.000 Her values have not changed.

00:54:52.000 And all the things she says that she will do that she hasn't already done, she's not going to do them because she had the chance.

00:54:56.000 She's been VP.

00:54:57.000 You know exactly what a Harris administration is going to look like.

00:55:00.000 You know precisely what it's going to look like.

00:55:02.000 It's going to be Biden, but way, way worse.

00:55:05.000 Here was Trump yesterday saying she doesn't give a damn about you. 0.61

00:55:07.000 You know, all this joy and hope-y change-y nonsense going on with her.

00:55:10.000 She didn't care about you. 1.00

00:55:11.000 Most ambitious person in American politics.

00:55:14.000 Here is what we know about Comrade Kamala Harris.

00:55:18.000 She just doesn't care about the American people, especially hardworking people who are middle class Americans. 1.00

00:55:25.000 She just doesn't give a damn about you. 1.00

00:55:28.000 He's not wrong. 0.53

00:55:29.000 He's not wrong. 0.53

00:55:30.000 She cares about keeping that Democratic Party machine happy. 1.00

00:55:33.000 Meanwhile, Nicole Shanahan, who was the vice presidential running mate for RFK Jr., who has now dropped out and endorsed Donald Trump, she released a kind of fun ad in which she went after Trump derangement syndrome.

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00:57:38.000 And meanwhile, unfortunately, Donald Trump is not escaping the maw of his own missteps.

00:57:44.000 So Donald Trump is running against a very weak Kamala Harris.

00:57:48.000 She's made clear she doesn't have any cognitive abilities to put together two sentences without relying on platitudes and bromides and wandering around in rhetorical circles.

00:57:58.000 But Trump stepped in it pretty bad yesterday.

00:58:01.000 So Donald Trump He was talking about, he was asking about Amendment 4 in Florida.

00:58:05.000 So we discussed Amendment 4 in Florida.

00:58:06.000 Amendment 4 is a constitutional referendum that would effectively extend abortion to birth.

00:58:13.000 So in the state of Florida, the state of Florida has a heartbeat law.

00:58:16.000 The heartbeat law says no abortion except under certain mitigating circumstances past fetal heartbeat, which is about six weeks.

00:58:23.000 Donald Trump's position on this, supposedly, he wants it always.

00:58:26.000 So he has said before that he is, he wants abortion exceptions for life of the mother, but that's about it.

00:58:32.000 So then he's asked about voting for Amendment 4.

00:58:35.000 Now again, Amendment 4 is an incredibly radical proposition.

00:58:37.000 It's worded vaguely, but it's very radical.

00:58:39.000 It gets rid of the mandate for parental consent for abortion in the state of Florida.

00:58:45.000 It extends the quote-unquote right to abortion all the way up to birth in the state of Florida.

00:58:49.000 It's as liberal a policy as New York would push.

00:58:52.000 So Trump was asked about Amendment 4.

00:58:53.000 Now, there are a bunch of answers he could give.

00:58:57.000 Because what he's trying to avoid is saying that he's going to push serious pro-life legislation at the federal level.

00:59:01.000 I may disagree with that.

00:59:02.000 That's his position for the campaign.

00:59:03.000 You understand why.

00:59:04.000 It's an unpopular federal position.

00:59:06.000 All he has to say is, my position on Amendment 4 as a voter in the state of Florida is irrelevant to what I will do as President of the United States.

00:59:14.000 That's all he has to say.

00:59:15.000 In fact, he could go further.

00:59:16.000 He could say Amendment 4 is an abomination.

00:59:18.000 Amendment 4 is abortion until point of birth.

00:59:22.000 I am not in favor of that, so I will vote against it.

00:59:25.000 Were there another proposition on the ballot that loosened abortion restrictions in Florida somewhat?

00:59:29.000 Maybe I'd be in favor of it, but that's not what Amendment 4 does.

00:59:32.000 But he doesn't say that.

00:59:33.000 Instead, he kind of says this.

00:59:36.000 In Florida, the state that you are a resident of, there's an abortion-related amendment on the ballot to overturn the six-week ban in Florida.

00:59:45.000 How are you going to vote on that?

00:59:46.000 Well, I think the six-week is too short.

00:59:48.000 It has to be more time, and so that's... And I've told them that I want more weeks.

00:59:53.000 So you'll vote in favor of the amendment?

00:59:54.000 I'm voting that... I am going to be voting that we need more than six weeks.

00:59:58.000 Okay, but... Okay, that wasn't the question.

01:00:00.000 Now, my guess is Trump doesn't know what Amendment 4 actually says or what it does.

01:00:05.000 Right, so I think that people are over-reading his comments there, both on the pro-life side and on the pro-choice side.

01:00:09.000 So I think on the pro-choice side, they're reading that as, that guy, he just completely broke his pro-life support because he's gonna support an amendment that enshrines abortion as a right till birth.

01:00:17.000 And on the pro-life side, there are many people who are panicking and doing the same thing, saying, oh, look at that, he endorsed the radical Soros, it is a Soros-backed proposition on the ballot.

01:00:26.000 That's not actually what he's saying.

01:00:27.000 What he's saying is, I don't like the six-week heartbeat bill.

01:00:31.000 But, you know, is he saying that he endorses, like, all the way to a point of birth?

01:00:34.000 No, he's not saying that either.

01:00:35.000 I mean, literally the same day that he said that, he also said this at his rally about his abortion beliefs on a personal level.

01:00:41.000 And I happen to believe in the exceptions Ronald Reagan did for life of the mother.

01:00:47.000 The exceptions, probably 90% of the people do.

01:00:51.000 Okay, but presumably, in all the other cases, he's pro-life.

01:00:54.000 So in other words, he's being inarticulate.

01:00:57.000 Now, I have faith, I believe, that Donald Trump will see the error of attempting to give Democrats what they want on Amendment 4.

01:01:03.000 It would be a disaster for the state of Florida.

01:01:05.000 It would be a disaster federally, because a lot of other states would then enshrine the same sorts of anti-life laws.

01:01:12.000 So I think that what he will end up saying is something like what I'm saying right now, which is I'm not in favor of any federal legislation.

01:01:17.000 The good thing about getting rid of Roe is that it got kicked back to the states. 0.90

01:01:20.000 How I vote as a voter in the state of Florida is frankly none of your business because it has nothing to do with how I'm going to govern on the federal level.

01:01:27.000 I already told you what I'm going to do on the federal level.

01:01:30.000 That's what Trump could do.

01:01:31.000 My guess is that's probably what he will end up doing.

01:01:34.000 But it's causing a lot of heartburn at a time when all the focus should be on Kamala Harris' utter incompetence and inability to complete a fully content-filled paragraph when asked a simple question. 1.00

01:01:45.000 Joining us online is the star of the new film, Reagan, along with Dennis Quaid, Jon Voight.

01:01:50.000 Jon plays former KGB agent Viktor Petrovich, whose life becomes inextricably linked with Ronald Reagan's.

01:01:56.000 It's basically through his eyes that you see Reagan's story.

01:01:58.000 Jon, thanks so much for joining the show.

01:01:59.000 Really appreciate it.

01:02:01.000 It's great to be with you, Ben.

01:02:03.000 So, Jon, why don't you tell me how you first got involved in this project?

01:02:05.000 I know this one has been years and years in the making.

01:02:09.000 Yeah, well, they came to me a couple of years ago.

01:02:12.000 This was supposed to go out a year and a half ago, I guess.

01:02:17.000 But the COVID hit, and then there was the strike, and then there was some difficulty with getting the CGI right, because it's tough on a On a certain kind of budget, you have to get everything in place before you go back to the CGI.

01:02:36.000 So it was pushed back to this date, and it's a very good thing it was, really, because it's much more relevant at this time.

01:02:44.000 Quite amazingly relevant, in a way, because of certain events that happened.

01:02:50.000 So why don't we talk about the relevance of the film?

01:02:52.000 Obviously, you know, there are people like me.

01:02:54.000 I was four years old when Ronald Reagan left office.

01:02:56.000 Obviously, I know a fair bit about Reagan because I've read about Reagan.

01:02:58.000 But for many voters, they don't know the Ronald Reagan era.

01:03:02.000 They don't know Ronald Reagan's story.

01:03:03.000 So this may be their first introduction to Ronald Reagan as a man and as a president.

01:03:07.000 Why do you think that's so relevant to people today?

01:03:11.000 Well, first of all, it's a story of a good president, a fellow who really did things quite well.

01:03:16.000 And it shows the The ups and downs, the real weight of the presidency and how you deal with these serious issues on a daily basis.

01:03:29.000 How does one keep one's head and make the proper decisions?

01:03:38.000 You know you're going to go through a tremendous amount of very serious stuff as a president of the United States.

01:03:46.000 This fellow did it with great grace.

01:03:48.000 And he never took his eye off the ball.

01:03:52.000 And we see how he confronted these very, very serious issues.

01:03:57.000 We also see the people around him, most especially his wife Nancy, who was almost a partner.

01:04:05.000 They had a wonderful love relationship and a wonderful friendship and working relationship too.

01:04:14.000 So that's part of the story.

01:04:17.000 And the movie shows all of this.

01:04:20.000 The love story is very beautiful and it's a very moving piece.

01:04:25.000 But also, it gives people a very good perspective on what must be the kind of character you have to have to be President of the United States.

01:04:35.000 John, one of the fascinating things about your character is obviously because the movie is done sort of through your vantage point as a former KGB agent reviewing the story, it's a reminder, I think, to a lot of Americans who really don't remember the Soviet Union, just how evil the Soviet Union was and the size of the enemy that the United States had to take on from the rise of the Russian Revolution all the way until the fall of the Soviet Union.

01:04:56.000 Maybe you can talk a little bit about that threat.

01:04:58.000 Well, that threat is still with us.

01:05:01.000 A lot of people, we're talking about all the damage that's been done by the KGB and the

01:05:07.000 attack, the very clever really, attack on our country through the insertion of people 1.00

01:05:19.000 into our society.

01:05:20.000 And there's a menu that was explained in a book by Ben Carson recently, and a book that came out in 1958 by a former FBI agent, who put out the menu of the KGB.

01:05:38.000 Nobody paid much attention to it, apparently, although it was in the congressional record.

01:05:43.000 All these things that they intended, let me give you just a small list.

01:05:48.000 They intended to take over the universities.

01:05:51.000 Their intention was to take God out of the schools, to create dissension between people based on race, based on gender, based on age, to take over Both parties, both political parties, if possible, to take over the press, to take over Hollywood, and all of this was laid out.

01:06:23.000 And if you read some of it, it's awfully clever.

01:06:25.000 They know our situation, they know our society very, very well, and they know how to damage it.

01:06:31.000 So that's what they set out to do as early, and we were on it, or somebody was on it, this FBI agent who wrote this book, The Naked Communist, in 1958.

01:06:45.000 We knew about it, but we didn't find our way to doing too much about it.

01:06:52.000 And so we're left, when I look at it, and I did a lot of research, of course, to do this role.

01:06:59.000 When I see it now, I say, well, they've pretty much accomplished everything.

01:07:03.000 But these were long-term objectives that they had.

01:07:06.000 They had a three-tier objective to take over the United States, and we're seeing almost You know, they must be amazed that they accomplished so much.

01:07:20.000 But then, of course, Reagan came along and dissolved the Soviet Union.

01:07:26.000 So that was put on pause, but they'd already set it in motion.

01:07:31.000 And many, many of the villains we see today are standing on that menu right now and delivering.

01:07:40.000 And John, one of the fascinating things about your character, obviously, again, you're playing a former KGB agent who's sort of viewing Reagan's life because you're following him throughout his life from his rise as head of the Screen Actors Guild all the way to the presidency.

01:07:51.000 But one of the things, I mean, you're an amazing actor, obviously, and what that means is that you have to inhabit the part.

01:07:56.000 It can't just be a caricature.

01:07:57.000 And so there are very few people in the world on planet Earth who have ever thought of themselves as evil while doing evil.

01:08:03.000 What did it mean to actually play a KGB agent?

01:08:06.000 How did you get yourself into that role?

01:08:09.000 Well, I visited the Soviet Union at the end, in 1991, when it was falling apart, and I had a great A way of connecting with the people because I was working on a film there, the first film that they had allowed in to film.

01:08:31.000 And we filmed in Moscow and we filmed in Ukraine, actually, where Chernobyl happened.

01:08:36.000 It was part of the Soviet Union at that time.

01:08:40.000 And I saw the terrible state of this communist influence on Russia.

01:08:48.000 And I met a lot of the people, and the people were really suffering.

01:08:52.000 I would say that communism brings misery.

01:08:55.000 This is their basic product.

01:08:59.000 The people walking in the streets, I walked on Red Square, right?

01:09:03.000 And people don't look up.

01:09:06.000 They wouldn't engage you.

01:09:07.000 They wouldn't look in your eyes.

01:09:09.000 They were frightened, perhaps, or just sad, and I felt for the people, and I got to know a few people, and I said, you know, this will turn around, I said to this woman, lovely woman, who spoke English, taught English in a Russian school, and she was very unhappy with the state of affairs, and explained, said to me, you know, This is never going to change, John.

01:09:41.000 And I said, oh, no, it's going to change.

01:09:43.000 You'll see.

01:09:44.000 She said, no, you don't know.

01:09:46.000 It'll never change.

01:09:47.000 I mean, I felt for the people.

01:09:50.000 So I made some friends there, you know, and they were all in the same boat, the same suffering.

01:09:57.000 And so I knew what was going on.

01:10:00.000 When I played this character, I knew this complexity of this character.

01:10:05.000 Now, if he signs on to do this, work.

01:10:09.000 He's having to appeal to a lot of people, and whatever he has of questions of what's going on, he has to keep to himself and all of that.

01:10:19.000 But this is a young man who is in the Soviet system when he starts, and then he becomes influenced by this person that he's He's focused on that he's been given the responsibility of reporting on the rise of this fellow, because they see he's talented, they see he's against communism, he's very outspoken, and then he shows some leadership ability.

01:10:44.000 So he became a future danger, perhaps, and that's why they assigned people like this fellow to gauge his progress and report.

01:10:59.000 So my thought was, I think I knew pretty much what was going on in the Soviet Union at that time.

01:11:07.000 And I also went to school on a very interesting fellow by the name of Yuri Bezmenov, who was a spy for the Soviet Union and became disturbed by what he saw.

01:11:24.000 and left the Soviet Union, became a dissident, and wound up in the United States.

01:11:28.000 And then because of some conscience, he felt he had to explain what was really going on and warn people.

01:11:36.000 And you can look him up, you know, Yuri Bezmenov, and see what his description of what really the Soviet Union was doing in the United States.

01:11:50.000 And so we've had some warnings, but we haven't been able to deal with them as well as we should.

01:11:56.000 And now we're in this situation.

01:11:58.000 So So anyways, a lot of the things we're seeing now are directly responsible to these plans to bring down our country.

01:12:08.000 John Voigt, the movie is Reagan.

01:12:10.000 It is out in theaters this weekend.

01:12:11.000 Go get your ticket.

01:12:12.000 John gives a great performance.

01:12:13.000 Dennis Quaid gives, I think, maybe the best performance of his career in Reagan.

01:12:16.000 It really is an astonishing attempt to channel Ronald Reagan, and it really succeeds.

01:12:21.000 John, thanks so much for the time, and the movie's great.

01:12:24.000 Congratulations.

01:12:26.000 Thanks, Ben.

01:12:26.000 Thank you very much.

01:12:27.000 Great to talk to you.

01:12:30.000 All righty, in just one second, we'll get to the big question about Kamala Harris.

01:12:32.000 Did she lie about working at McDonald's?

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01:12:49.000 It never really seemed to matter that much, at least not to me.

01:12:51.000 Am I racist?

01:12:53.000 I would really appreciate it if you left.

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01:13:11.000 The word inherent is challenging there.

01:13:13.000 You want to rename the George Washington Monument to the George Floyd Monument?

01:13:17.000 America is racist to its bones.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - August 30, 2024

Kamala’s CAR WRECK First Interview!

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