The Ben Shapiro Show - Kimmel SUSPENDED After Terrible Charlie Kirk Assassination Take

00:00:00.000 Well, folks, you'll get to the gigantic media news that Jimmy Kimmel's show is basically cooked.

00:00:05.000 We'll get to why that happened, what the government's involvement was or was not in that.

00:00:09.000 I want to begin, as we begun every day since the murder of my friend Charlie Kirk, with some tribute to Charlie Kirk, because I think it is important to remember the uplifting, remember the legacy before we get to, you know, the depressing and upsetting.

00:00:23.000 So Glenn Beck, my friend, hosted Charlie Kirk's show yesterday.

00:00:27.000 Obviously, the vice president of the United States had the privilege of hosting Charlie's show on Monday.

00:00:31.000 And then the Daily Wire crew, Matt Walsh, Michael Moles, and I hosted Charlie's show on Tuesday.

00:00:37.000 Glenn hosted Charlie's show yesterday.

00:00:39.000 And he had something that I thought was pretty amazing.

00:00:41.000 He brought along the EIB microphone, the excellence in broadcasting microphone that Rush Limbaugh used during his days.

00:00:48.000 And he gave it to TP USA.

00:00:51.000 He put it on the desk in front of Charlie's chair, paying tribute to Charlie here with Glenn yesterday.

00:00:57.000 I brought something with me today that I thought was appropriate while I did the show that I would sit in front of Charlie's microphone.

00:01:08.000 It was given to me after the death of Rush Limbaugh by his wife.

00:01:14.000 It is Russia's golden microphone.

00:01:16.000 *clap*

00:01:35.000 I think it's appropriate that it sits in front of Charlie's microphone.

00:01:47.000 Very generous gesture by Glenn, obviously.

00:01:49.000 The vice president of the United States, J.D. Vance is on Fox News last night with Jesse Waters talking about Charlie in a bit of a town hall.

00:01:56.000 And here he was praising Charlie Kirk, his friend.

00:02:00.000 I don't want anybody to remember Charlie Kirk and that five seconds at the end of his life.

00:02:04.000 I wanted to remember Charlie Kirk, the skilled debater.

00:02:07.000 I wanted to remember those videos, those incredible videos of him and his wife and his babies and how much he loved Erica and how much he loved those kids.

00:02:15.000 I want him to remember Charlie for that.

00:02:16.000 I want him to remember Charlie for the guy for when it was these kids behind me.

00:02:20.000 Now, I hate to call you guys kids, but you are, you know, who who would a progressive would step up to the microphone at a turning points USA event, and some of the audience would jeer and cheer, and Charlie would say, No, no, let him speak because he so desperately believed in this idea that we should be talking with and debating one another.

00:02:37.000 So maybe see the video to understand what the far left did to Charlie Kirk.

00:02:43.000 Absolutely.

00:02:44.000 But that should be one fraction of one percent of your memory of Charlie Kirk.

00:02:48.000 99.9% of it should be a titan of the conservative movement, a beloved friend, and a dear husband and father.

00:02:57.000 JD went on to talk about the fact that you know there are a lot of people who have been celebrating Charlie's death that continues today, schmucks like Keith Olbermann doing that routine, talking about Charlie Burning and Hell and all the rest. 0.84

00:03:07.000 Now J.D. Vance said, you know, consequences from civil society are a thing. 0.88

00:03:11.000 Now, again, I've been saying for a very, very long time that the kind of low pixelation version of the cancel culture argument is a very stupid argument.

00:03:20.000 That argument is morally relativistic, which is there should never be any consequences for any speech of any kind. 0.99

00:03:24.000 That of course is unbelievably silly. 1.00

00:03:26.000 No one has an obligation to pay you to say dumb crap. 1.00

00:03:31.000 No one has an obligation to keep you employed if you celebrate the death of a political commentator with whom you had disagreements. 0.99

00:03:38.000 Nobody has that obligation.

00:03:39.000 The original argument against cancel culture is that it has extended so far that the left was canceling people for saying men are not women, for example.

00:03:48.000 Or pointing out basic statistics about crime.

00:03:51.000 These were cancelable offenses.

00:03:54.000 That if you were a person working at Google, like James Damore, and you made the point that perhaps women weren't going into the STEM fields at the same rate as men for reasons of both proclivity as well as distributional attributes on test scores.

00:04:12.000 If you made that point, you got canceled.

00:04:14.000 And the point the Wright made is that's crazy.

00:04:16.000 These are all normy political discussions that we all have all the time.

00:04:19.000 You can't get canceled for that. 1.00

00:04:20.000 But if you were making the argument, there should never be any consequences from society of any kind for taking positions and saying things that are truly egregious, that's a really stupid Argument. 0.99

00:04:30.000 And this is the point the vice president is making. 0.99

00:04:34.000 The First Amendment protects a lot of very ugly speech, but if you celebrate Charlie's Kirk, Charlie Kirk's death, you should not be protected from being fired for being a disgusting person.

00:04:44.000 If you're a university professor who benefits from American tax dollars, you should not be celebrating Charlie Kirk's death.

00:04:51.000 And if you are, maybe you should lose your job or your university should face a loss of funding.

00:04:56.000 If you are the kind of person who thinks that Charlie Kirk was justifiably murdered, sometimes the government can't do anything about that.

00:05:04.000 But you know what can is is civil society.

00:05:07.000 And I've actually been gratified to see all these people standing up and saying, yes, we have free speech, and yes, we have free debate.

00:05:14.000 But if you're if you're celebrating the death of a young father, you ought to pay some consequences for it, and the American people are rising up against that evil.

00:05:22.000 It's a great thing to see.

00:05:25.000 Okay, so now we need to discuss the difference between civil society's consequences for bad speech, quote unquote cancel culture, in the low pixelation version of that argument, and the activity of government involvement with this.

00:05:41.000 The government should not be involved in trying to force people to say certain things or do certain things with regard to speech.

00:05:48.000 That is not a thing we want the government involved in.

00:05:51.000 And I'm old enough to remember when a lot of conservatives thought that, when a lot of conservatives looked at, for example, the Joe Biden administration's attempts to push and cudgel Facebook into taking down particular types of content around COVID, and they said that's a violation of free speech principles, which it is.

00:06:08.000 And the Supreme Court utterly failed on that question.

00:06:11.000 That case went all the way up to the Supreme Court.

00:06:13.000 There was a very robust appellate court decision saying that it was in fact a violation of the First Amendment for the federal government under Joe Biden to try and force Facebook and other social media sites to take content down.

00:06:26.000 That was violation of the brief uh of the First Amendment protections of freedom of speech.

00:06:31.000 And then the Supreme Court found kind of shaky grounds for essentially avoiding that question entirely.

00:06:37.000 Okay, with that said, the federal government should not be forcing people to embrace or not embrace certain types of speech in the private realm.

00:06:46.000 That is not something the federal government should be doing.

00:06:48.000 And so the question about what's going on with Jimmy Kimmel right now, because Jimmy Kimmel's show, last night it was announced, has essentially gone off the air.

00:06:55.000 It has been canceled according to the Hollywood reporter.

00:06:58.000 It's suspended indefinitely.

00:06:59.000 The question is whether that is a result of organic pressure from the crowd, which, if so, great.

00:07:04.000 I'm on board. 1.00

00:07:05.000 Jimmy Kimmel is a schmuck. 1.00

00:07:07.000 Jimmy Kimmel is the worst. 1.00

00:07:08.000 Jimmy Kimmel has been trashed for over 10 years. 0.94

00:07:10.000 Jimmy Kimmel went from a funny guy who used to tell jokes, going all the way back to his days on K Rock, 106.7 in Los Angeles.

00:07:18.000 When I was in high school, I was listening to Kevin and Bean in the morning because my carpool mate refused to listen to anything else, and Jimmy Kimmel was the sports guy, and he was funny and obviously very talented.

00:07:28.000 And then he somehow became a late-night host.

00:07:30.000 And after he became a late-night host, he decided it became incumbent upon him to become, as my friend Guy Benson has said, the woke pope of late-night TV, where he's just gonna lecture you every night and be incredibly dickish all the time.

00:07:43.000 And that was a shtick.

00:07:44.000 He was gonna go on TV and he's gonna lecture you and be terrible.

00:07:47.000 And there are a thousand times that Jimmy Kimmel should have been canceled.

00:07:50.000 A thousand times, where he said things that were so egregious and terrible and gross that he should have been done.

00:07:58.000 And by the standards of the modern woke media, they should have just dug up his old stuff and gone after him.

00:08:05.000 I mean, there's old tape from the man show with Adam Carolla of Jimmy Kimmel groping women without their permission or simulating groping women without their permission.

00:08:13.000 I mean, this is from the man, this is on Comedy Central back in the day.

00:08:20.000 Tell us what you think of the statute.

00:08:24.000 He's literally just going up to a woman. 0.85

00:08:29.000 and mimicking having sex with her from behind, without her knowledge. 0.98

00:08:33.000 Take another look at it. 0.99

00:08:37.000 Thank you.

00:08:38.000 I mean, you know, being obscene.

00:08:40.000 That didn't get him canceled.

00:08:42.000 Jimmy Kimmel dressed up in blackface back in the day.

00:08:46.000 He dressed up as Carl Malone in Blackface.

00:08:48.000 That didn't get him canceled.

00:08:51.000 My whole thing is this.

00:08:53.000 If there do have such a thing as reinparted, Carmelo don't won't be coming back to Earth as no chicken.

00:08:59.000 Chicken got a dang deal going on here on earth, locked up in pan, getting fried up, barbecued, wings getting chopped off and dipped in delicious tangy hot sauce.

00:09:14.000 Now in the 90s, there were quite a time.

00:09:16.000 But I mean, forget about his old stuff, his old old stuff.

00:09:19.000 He didn't get canceled for saying that people should die in hospitals if they took ivermectin for COVID, which is a thing he actually said on the air.

00:09:26.000 This captain of empathy.

00:09:28.000 Dr. Fauci said that if hospitals get any more overcrowded, they're going to have to make some very tough choices about who gets an ICU bet.

00:09:36.000 That choice doesn't seem so tough to me.

00:09:38.000 Vaccinated person having a heart attack, yes, come right on in. 1.00

00:09:40.000 We'll take care of you.

00:09:41.000 Unvaccinated guy who gobbled horse goo. 0.72

00:09:44.000 Rest in peace, Wheezy.

00:09:47.000 So, um, you know, that's a thing he should have been canceled over.

00:09:50.000 So don't get me wrong.

00:09:51.000 I'm very happy to see Jim Jimmy Kimmel go.

00:09:53.000 Like for whatever reason, I'm very happy to see him go.

00:09:56.000 He was a horror show.

00:09:57.000 His morality is completely backwards.

00:10:00.000 His obvious dripping disdain and hatred for anyone who disagrees with him is perfectly clear.

00:10:06.000 It is clear.

00:10:07.000 Every night has been clear every night for years.

00:10:09.000 No one could more richly deserve being taken off the air than Jimmy Kimmel.

00:10:13.000 The question is whether the federal government had to do with him being taken off the air.

00:10:17.000 And this is where, again, policy cannot be a blunderbuss.

00:10:22.000 It cannot be.

00:10:24.000 See, Charlie Kirk was killed doing free speech.

00:10:27.000 He was killed engaging in political debate.

00:10:30.000 And one of the legacies that Charlie Kirk leaves is the necessity for such political debate, the necessity for free speech.

00:10:36.000 And again, that doesn't mean speech without consequences.

00:10:39.000 It means the necessity for debate.

00:10:40.000 And what that requires that the government not be involved, for example, in shutting down free debate.

00:10:45.000 So the question with regard to Kimmel is whether this is an organic outgrowth of natural outrage over Jimmy Kimmel, or whether this was forced by the federal government.

00:10:55.000 Already coming up, we'll get to more on Jimmy Kimmel.

00:10:58.000 Was this government interventionism, or was it just, you know, the public being pissed at Jimmy Kimmel? 0.99

00:11:02.000 I mean, the guy is, as I will say, 1000 times the show, a schmuck. 1.00

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00:13:23.000 According to the Hollywood Reporter, Kimmel's late night talk show is being suspended by ABC over his viral comments About Charlie Kirk.

00:13:30.000 A network spokesperson said Wednesday that Jimmy Kimmel Live will be preempted indefinitely.

00:13:34.000 The network's action came just after Nextstar, one of the biggest owners of local TV stations in the country, including 28 ABC affiliates, said it will preempt the series for the immediate future.

00:13:43.000 A source said that ABC had also heard from at least one other station group about the show, suggesting an affiliate revolt may have played a role in the decision.

00:13:50.000 The dramatic move also follows Federal Communications Commission Chair Brendan Carr threatening to take action against ABC affiliates in the wake of Kimmel suggesting the Kirk shooting suspect was a MAGA Republican during a monologue earlier this week.

00:14:02.000 Supposedly Kimmel was prepared to address the backlash on Wednesday's night Wednesday night shows.

00:14:07.000 He planned to explain what he said and demonstrate how it was taken out of context.

00:14:10.000 So let's begin by playing the clip that effectively got Kimmel thrown off the air.

00:14:10.000 It wasn't.

00:14:15.000 Here is the original Kimmel tape.

00:14:18.000 We had some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

00:14:30.000 In between the finger pointing, there was uh grieving on Friday, the White House flew the flags at half staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this.

00:14:42.000 My condolences on the loss of your friend Charlie Kirk.

00:14:45.000 May I ask, sir, personally, how are you holding up over the last day and a half, sir?

00:14:50.000 And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks.

00:14:53.000 They've just started construction of the new borough for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years, and it's gonna be a beauty.

00:15:03.000 Yes.

00:15:04.000 He's at the fourth stage of grief, construction.

00:15:08.000 Demolition, construction.

00:15:13.000 This is not how an adult grieves the murderer of someone he called a friend.

00:15:16.000 This is how a four-year-old mourns a goldfish.

00:15:21.000 So it wasn't the last part that got Kimmel suspended.

00:15:24.000 It was the first part where he said that the shooter was one of their own.

00:15:26.000 It was a MAGA person.

00:15:28.000 Now, by the time that Kimmel broadcast this on Monday night, it was perfectly clear that was not true.

00:15:32.000 Perfectly, perfectly clear.

00:15:33.000 I'd said it the week before.

00:15:35.000 We all knew.

00:15:36.000 Also, there was new evidence that it wasn't true.

00:15:38.000 We talked about that evidence on Monday.

00:15:40.000 All the evidence that showed that the shooter was, in fact, murder that the shooter murdered Charlie because the shooter was a was in a relationship, a gay relationship, with a trans furry and had decided that Charlie was hateful because Charlie said that men were not women and all the like.

00:16:00.000 So, was Kimmel lying?

00:16:02.000 I believe Kimmel was lying.

00:16:03.000 I believe Kimmel knew.

00:16:04.000 I also know that there are a bunch of delusional people on the left, a truly delusional, who are trying to pretend away what happened by saying that either the shooter had no political motivations at all, which is totally crazy, or that the shooter was even MAGA, which is even crazier.

00:16:18.000 So maybe in his own head, he was part of that delusional crew that thought that because the shooter grew up in a MAGA house, that meant that he was MAGA, despite the fact that again, all evidence shows he was anything but that he was a far leftist who believed that Charlie was quote unquote hateful for saying that men were not women and was hateful because he disagreed with Charlie Kirk because you know he was in love with another man pretending to be a woman dressing as a dog.

00:16:46.000 I know it's like a bad joke.

00:16:47.000 It's really one of the worst jokes, even worse than some of the jokes that Jimmy Kimmel told.

00:16:51.000 Okay, so the question is, and this is really the question, whether these local affiliates canceled Kimmel because they were upset with Kimmel, or whether they canceled Kimmel because they came under pressure from the FCC.

00:17:03.000 So Nextstar ABC put out a statement, quote, Nextstar Media Group today announced that the company's owned and part partner television stations affiliated with the ABC television network would preempt Jimmy Kimmel Live for the foreseeable future, beginning with tonight's show.

00:17:16.000 Next star strongly objects to recent comments made by Mr. Kimmel concerning the killing of Charlie Kirk and will replace the show with other programming in its ABC affiliated markets.

00:17:24.000 Mr. Kimmel's comments about the death of Mr. Kirk are offensive and insensitive at a critical time in our national political discourse, and we do not believe they reflect a spectrum of opinions, views, or values of the local communities in which we are located, said Andrew Alford, president of Nextstar's broadcasting division.

00:17:38.000 Continuing to give Mr. Kimmel a broadcast platform in the communities we serve is simply not in the public interest at the current time, and we have made the difficult decision to preempt his show in an effort to let cooler heads prevail as we move toward the resumption of respectful constructive dialogue.

00:17:51.000 Okay, now the question is was that natural?

00:17:54.000 Or was that a result of the fact that Nextstar is currently trying to push a 6.2 billion dollar merger through FCC scrutiny.

00:18:02.000 And the fact that the FCC chair, Brandon Carr, went on Benny Johnson's show, where he effectively threatened action against Kimmel, ABC, and Disney.

00:18:17.000 They have a license granted by us at the FCC, and that comes with it an obligation to operate in the public interest.

00:18:25.000 And we can get into some ways that we've been trying to reinvigorate the public interest and some changes that we've seen, but frankly, when you see stuff like this, I mean, look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way.

00:18:35.000 These companies can find ways to change conduct and take action, frankly, uh, on Kimmel, or you know, there's going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.

00:18:45.000 It appears to be clear that uh you could make a strong argument that this is sort of an intentional effort to mislead the American people about a very core fundamental fact to a very important matter.

00:18:58.000 At the end of the day, uh, if we do get called upon to cast a vote on this, Disney will have a chance to put in uh their arguments and explain it.

00:19:06.000 But um, this is a very, very, you know, serious issue right now for Disney.

00:19:12.000 Okay, let me be clear about this.

00:19:14.000 I like Brendan Carr.

00:19:16.000 I do.

00:19:16.000 The FCC should not be threatening action against ABC or its affiliates or Disney based on Jimmy Kimmel being a jack.

00:19:24.000 He's been a jackets his entire career.

00:19:27.000 Social censure is perfectly appropriate. 0.99

00:19:29.000 The blowback from the public, totally natural and in fact good, because Jimmy Kimmel is in fact a schmuck who should have been taken off the air ten years ago. 0.81

00:19:37.000 I do not want the FCC in the business of telling local affiliates that their licenses will be removed if they broadcast material that the FCC deems to be informationally false.

00:19:48.000 Why?

00:19:49.000 Because one day the shoe will be on the other foot.

00:19:51.000 I know that we've gotten out of the habit of this.

00:19:53.000 I know that there are a lot of people on the right who say the shoe will never be on the other foot.

00:19:56.000 And if it is, the left will just do it anyway.

00:19:58.000 Here is the thing.

00:19:59.000 Preemptively breaking things because you believe that the left is going to break the things, it makes the things broken, and you can't unbreak the things.

00:20:06.000 So I'm a I'm an advocate of the idea that things that are not yet broken probably should not be.

00:20:13.000 And if we are now in a world where we're going to preemptively break the plate because we believe that the bad guy is going to break the plate, all the plates are going to get broken.

00:20:20.000 And regardless of what you do, that's going to get used against you.

00:20:22.000 The shards will be used as weapons against you.

00:20:24.000 I promise you, if the FCC is removing local affiliate licenses or threatening to do so based on Jimmy Kimmel being a jacket, the next time a Democrat is elected, which will happen, his country is split 50-50, pretending that this country is split 80-20 does no one any good.

00:20:40.000 The Congress is split effectively 50-50.

00:20:43.000 The Senate of the United States is split almost 50-50 to split 53 to 47.

00:20:47.000 Yeah.

00:20:48.000 Thank you.

00:20:49.000 The last presidential election, which President Trump won, he did not win in a blowout.

00:20:54.000 I will remind you that Kamala Harris, an awful, terrible, horrifying candidate, somehow achieved in the popular vote 48.3%.

00:21:05.000 And Donald Trump won 49.8%.

00:21:07.000 And so we should stop pretending that this is not a closely divided country and that Democrats will never win again.

00:21:14.000 First of all, just on principle, I do not think that the FCC should be involved in this sort of stuff.

00:21:18.000 I think there's a better case that the FCC should not even be involved in granting broadcast licenses to local affiliates anymore.

00:21:25.000 We now live in an age of digital and cable.

00:21:27.000 I don't think that we need the FCC to regulate this sort of stuff this way in the first place.

00:21:32.000 I'm for total deregulation.

00:21:34.000 But if you are going to have regulations on the books, then they have to be evenly administered.

00:21:40.000 And so again, I'm not saying Kimmel shouldn't be taken off the air.

00:21:43.000 I'm not saying that social sanction shouldn't have forced him off the air.

00:21:46.000 I'm not saying any of these local affiliates shouldn't have said they don't want to take Kimmel anymore.

00:21:49.000 I'm saying they should have done all of that 10 years ago.

00:21:51.000 And I'm not sure what happened here.

00:21:53.000 If, best case scenario, the public forced the local affiliates to react and take Kimmel off the air, totally legit.

00:22:03.000 I think it is bad politics, and I think it is bad policy.

00:22:06.000 The fact that the FCC is trying to use standards about broadcasting false information in this way, I think is a negative.

00:22:15.000 According to FCC rules, the FCC prohibits broadcasting false information about a crime or catastrophe if the broadcaster knows the information is false and will cause substantial public harm if aired.

00:22:25.000 That should be a relatively high bar because I'm just telling you, if Democrats win the presidency and you got a Democrat in charge of the FCC.

00:22:31.000 You got Adam Schiff in charge of the FCC.

00:22:34.000 You know which affiliates are going to get threatened.

00:22:36.000 All of the Fox affiliates.

00:22:37.000 You know that's going to happen.

00:22:38.000 It will.

00:22:41.000 If, as it as the if the rumors are true, and CBS News is about to make a significant shift back toward the center and suddenly broadcast things conservatives are not against.

00:22:50.000 If that is a true thing, you can bet dollars to donuts that under a Democrat president, suddenly CBS affiliates will come under fire.

00:22:57.000 This is why we don't want the state involved in these things.

00:23:02.000 And here's the problem.

00:23:03.000 Brendan Carr, over at the FCC.

00:23:07.000 He then put out a statement quote, I want to thank Next Star for doing the right thing.

00:23:11.000 Local broadcasters have an obligation to serve the public interest.

00:23:13.000 While this may be an unprecedented decision, it is important for broadcasters to push back on Disney programming that they determine falls short of community values.

00:23:20.000 I hope other broadcasters follow Next Star's lead.

00:23:22.000 Again, shoe on the other foot.

00:23:24.000 If this were a Democrat at the FCC who are saying, I want to thank Next Star for canceling all affiliates of Fox thanks to something that Sean Hannity said.

00:23:33.000 Or that back in the day Tucker Carlson said on the air.

00:23:37.000 Would the right be okay with that?

00:23:38.000 Or would they be claiming quite properly that that is massive regulatory overreach, unprecedented in scope?

00:23:44.000 Alrighty, coming up, the president of the United States decides it's time to crack down on Antifa plus Tanahassi Coates. 1.00

00:23:50.000 Yes, he's back from defending Hamas now. 0.87

00:23:53.000 He's going to speak about the evils of political violence.

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00:26:04.000 You know, President Trump thanked ABC for canceling Kimmel because he hates Jimmy Kimmel.

00:26:08.000 Properly so.

00:26:08.000 You should hate Jimmy Kimmel.

00:26:09.000 Jimmy Kimmel's a schmuck. 1.00

00:26:10.000 I can't say it enough. 1.00

00:26:11.000 I think Jimmy Kimmel's despicable.

00:26:13.000 The president put out a statement, great news for America.

00:26:15.000 The ratings challenge Jimmy Kimmel show is canceled.

00:26:17.000 Congratulations to ABC for finally having the courage to do what had to be done.

00:26:20.000 Kimmel has zero talent and worse ratings than even Colbert, if that's possible.

00:26:23.000 That leaves Jimmy and Seth two total losers on fake news NBC. 0.85

00:26:27.000 Their ratings are also horrible. 0.99

00:26:28.000 Do it, NBC.

00:26:29.000 President Donald J. Trump.

00:26:30.000 Now, again, if this is just President Trump cheering from the sidelines, agree.

00:26:33.000 Agree on every part of that.

00:26:34.000 Jimmy Kimmel is utterly untalented. 0.90

00:26:36.000 The other hosts are terrible. 0.85

00:26:38.000 They should go.

00:26:38.000 They have terrible ratings.

00:26:39.000 All of that's true.

00:26:42.000 The federal government, the imprimatur of the federal government here, is a problem.

00:26:48.000 It is not good.

00:26:51.000 Brian Stelter reached out for comment, apparently, to Brendan Carr.

00:26:59.000 He says, I asked FCC chair Brendan Carr, if he had any new comment now that ABC has pulled Jimmy Kimmel's show, and he sent a gif, and the gif is of Dwight Trude and Michael Scott raising the roof from the office.

00:27:09.000 Like we did it.

00:27:13.000 Why?

00:27:14.000 Why?

00:27:16.000 Okay, Litley, why?

00:27:17.000 Just let the public be outraged and let the public outrage organically drive the thing. 0.99

00:27:21.000 Why?

00:27:22.000 Now you've muddied the waters in a serious way.

00:27:24.000 Legally you've muddied the waters on First Amendment grounds, on FCC overregulatory grounds.

00:27:30.000 In much the same way that the Biden administration was threatening Facebook with consequences if they did not remove certain material.

00:27:38.000 I mean, this is an open threat, actually.

00:27:41.000 Like, now you've muddied the waters.

00:27:43.000 And not only have you muddied the waters on Kimmel, you have now retroactively muddied the waters on Colbert.

00:27:48.000 Because again, the claim the left was making, and the reason they're valorizing, again, one of the other terrible hosts on Late Night TV, Stephen Colbert, the reason they valorized him is because he got fired.

00:27:56.000 He got fired because his ratings sucked and he was totally underwater monetarily.

00:28:00.000 His show was losing tens of millions of dollars every year.

00:28:02.000 That's the real reason he was fired.

00:28:04.000 But the left claimed that he was fired due to pressure from the administration.

00:28:08.000 Because they are building a narrative now.

00:28:10.000 And the narrative they are trying to build is that President Trump and his team are in authoritarian fashion destroying things like freedom of speech.

00:28:18.000 And the case they're trying to build as a comeback from the horrible story of Charlie's death, a story that is terrible for the radical left, truly terrible, because the American people have reacted with unprecedented force and fury at what happened to Charlie.

00:28:33.000 What the left is now going to attempt to do is jujitsu that reaction into the belief that the Trump administration is overreacting.

00:28:42.000 When you have a moment to do the right thing, you have to be, as an administration, calculated and meticulous in how you pursue this stuff.

00:28:50.000 I was talking to my friend Chris Rufo about this shortly after Charlie was shot.

00:28:53.000 And we were talking about the fact that the administration no one is more effective at this than Chris Ruffo.

00:28:57.000 And Chris was saying, and he said this publicly, obviously, you cannot afford to have blunders like the attorney general Pam Bondi out there saying that hate speech needs to be regulated.

00:29:09.000 Because that's uncalibrated.

00:29:10.000 It doesn't get the job done.

00:29:11.000 And not only that, it creates backlash.

00:29:13.000 President Trump was elected in part based on the idea that he was going to maintain freedom of speech.

00:29:20.000 He was elected in part based on the backlash to true cancel culture, the broadening of the Overton window, the opening of the speech aperture.

00:29:28.000 That was a thing that President Trump was elected based on.

00:29:30.000 And if you wish to hand power back to the Democrats, what you do here is you overreach, or at least even create the perception of overreach.

00:29:38.000 So two things can be true at once as always.

00:29:40.000 I'm very, very happy Jimmy Kimmel's off the air. 0.99

00:29:43.000 For the ninth time, he is a putt, a schmuck, and a Schmendrick. 0.98

00:29:49.000 There's a lot of Yiddish on today's show. 1.00

00:29:51.000 He's the worst.

00:29:52.000 Can't stand Jimmy Kimmel.

00:29:54.000 Can't stand him going back 10 years when he was trying to use the heart surgery of his son to argue for nationalized health care, pretending that it gave him some sort of new expertise into the healthcare system.

00:30:05.000 I made the point on my show.

00:30:06.000 My daughter had had open heart surgery that same year from the same surgeon, and um that had no impact on my healthcare views, because one thing has nothing to do with the other.

00:30:14.000 Jimmy Kimmel's awful.

00:30:16.000 Happy to see him go. 0.71

00:30:16.000 Don't let the door hit you on the way out. 0.71

00:30:19.000 The government should not be doing this thing.

00:30:21.000 They should not be muddying the waters.

00:30:23.000 And if they do, then they put themselves at risk of significant overreach.

00:30:28.000 Now, meanwhile, we have new details that have emerged about the shooter in this case, according to the UK Daily Mail.

00:30:38.000 A sickening cachet of searches have been revealed about the suspect. 0.73

00:30:44.000 He was involved in a furry shades of gay game. 0.96

00:30:48.000 Well, I can't imagine why he would have shot Charlie then.

00:30:50.000 One of the things that I find absolutely amusing about many of the members of the left when it comes to this, is they'll say, well, you know, it wasn't a political issue, it was a personal issue. 0.90

00:31:00.000 It was personal, because you see, this guy was a gay furry. 1.00

00:31:04.000 He was a gay furry in love with a trans gay furry. 0.99

00:31:08.000 And that means that it was about his personal proclivities. 0.98

00:31:10.000 It wasn't political.

00:31:13.000 It was the left that originally contended the personal is political.

00:31:17.000 In this case, the personal is political.

00:31:19.000 It is.

00:31:20.000 Read the texts.

00:31:22.000 Go look at what he was saying, what he was telling friends and family. 0.83

00:31:25.000 He believed that his gay furry lifestyle was under threat from people like Charlie Kirk, who were intolerant of the insanity of the trans ideology. 0.94

00:31:34.000 And then he shot Charlie. 0.99

00:31:36.000 It is no surprise at all to find that this person was not, contrary to the popular opinion of the left, apparently, a Romeo and Juliet character in a gay romance, that actually he was a sexual sicko. 0.95

00:31:49.000 None of that is particularly shocking, obviously. 0.93

00:31:56.000 It is frankly absolutely predictable.

00:32:00.000 Apparently, he used a pseudo name on Steam where he played a pornographic online game called Furry Shades of Gay, according to the UK Daily Mail.

00:32:10.000 Apparently, he also followed artists who drew explicit cartoons associated with pedophilia.

00:32:16.000 The Daily Mail cited Tyler Robinson's friends to report that he used the account name Crafton 247 on his gaming and online accounts.

00:32:23.000 The 22-year-old reportedly played furry shades of gay, a game that has described itself as being about love, queer relationships, hot case, and slapstick humor on Steam in 2020.

00:32:33.000 And apparently this appeared on a furry site, fur affinity.com, a website for people with a proclivity for humanoid animal illustrations and dressing up in fursuits.

00:32:45.000 I can't imagine, by the way, it was the media were trying to say that his parents were intolerant and terrible.

00:32:50.000 I can't imagine why they might have objected to their son becoming a weird freak.

00:32:53.000 I can't imagine why.

00:32:55.000 And I say that advisedly. 1.00

00:32:57.000 Yes, if you are visiting furry shades of gay, you are in fact a weird freak. 1.00

00:33:04.000 Ain't nothing I can do about it. 1.00

00:33:06.000 That's a you problem, my friend.

00:33:08.000 And blaming society for your ill and then shooting people based on the Zills does not make you a romantic character. 0.98

00:33:13.000 It just underscores the politics associated with sick freakdom.

00:33:19.000 It is, you know, insane that the left has attempted to craft these permission structures. 0.82

00:33:24.000 Tanahasi Coates, the egregiously horrible writer.

00:33:34.000 It is an amazing thing.

00:33:35.000 You have to be incapable of reading to believe that Tanahassey Coates is a great writer.

00:33:40.000 Tanahasi Coates is a joke. 0.89

00:33:42.000 He doesn't know how to think.

00:33:43.000 He's a he's a purple writer who will use three adjectives where zero would do.

00:33:50.000 He's overwrought.

00:33:52.000 He's hysterical, and he hates the country.

00:33:53.000 I mean, truly hates America, Tanahasie Coates and Western civilization more broadly. 0.95

00:33:58.000 Has an entire piece over at Vanity Fair, basically blaming Charlie for his own murder.

00:34:03.000 Quote, Kirk subscribed to some of the most disreputable and harmful beliefs that this country has ever known.

00:34:09.000 And Charlie Kirk, about as normie a Republican as you can find.

00:34:13.000 But it is still chilling to think that those beliefs would be silenced by a gunshot.

00:34:17.000 The tragedy is personal.

00:34:18.000 Kirk was robbed of his life and his children and family will forever live with the knowledge that a visual record of that robbery is just an internet search away.

00:34:24.000 And the tragedy is national.

00:34:26.000 Political violence ends conversation and invites war.

00:34:28.000 Its rejection is paramount to a functioning democracy and a free society.

00:34:32.000 You know, I I love hearing this from Tanahasie Coates who literally said that he watched 9-11 happen while stoned on the roof of an apartment building and didn't feel anything.

00:34:40.000 A person whose last book was all about the wonders effectively of Palestinian terrorism. 0.98

00:34:44.000 He never even mentioned in a book about Israel and the Palestinians terrorism, not once, because the entire book is a tacit justification for Palestinian murder and terrorism.

00:34:54.000 He's very angry at Ezra Klein of the New York Times.

00:34:57.000 I did an interview with Ezra a couple of weeks ago before Charlie's shooting.

00:35:01.000 It finally aired earlier this week.

00:35:02.000 It was very cordial conversation.

00:35:04.000 I've had many cordial conversations with Ezra, as I've had cordial conversations with many people with whom I disagree on the left.

00:35:10.000 And many of those people were texting me and calling me to find out not only if I was okay, obviously I am, thank God, but also to express their horror, shock, dismay at what happened to Charlie.

00:35:22.000 It is not a complete right-left thing, meaning there are radical leftists who endorse political violence and then tacitly endorse the thought structures that lead to it.

00:35:31.000 Tanahassi Coates does that.

00:35:32.000 He is part of the permission structure for violence, Tanahasie Coates.

00:35:35.000 And then there are people who are on the rational side of the left.

00:35:39.000 They disagree with me on a lot of issues.

00:35:41.000 But also, they understand that these permission structures for violence are bad and wrong.

00:35:46.000 And I got a call from, I don't know, two dozen of them over the course of the last week, including Ezra Klein.

00:35:53.000 So Ezra wrote a piece in which he lamented the death of Charlie Kirk and said basically he was engaged in normie political conversation, which is true.

00:35:59.000 And normally political Conversation is fraud.

00:36:01.000 And one of the games we can always play when any political commentator dies or is killed.

00:36:04.000 You can always play this game is go find bad old tweets.

00:36:07.000 Go find a statement that if you take it out of context looks really, really bad, and then pretend that that person is that statement. 0.99

00:36:14.000 You can play that game all day long, and it's the world's dumbest game, truly the dumbest game. 0.93

00:36:20.000 But Tan Hasi Coates is angry at Ezra Klein. 0.97

00:36:22.000 He's enraged at Ezra Klein for having the temerity to suggest that Charlie's murder was really, really bad, and that Charlie himself was not in fact an extremist, because Charlie was, in fact, not an extremist.

00:36:36.000 So here's what Tanahasie Coates writes.

00:36:38.000 Political violence is a virtue, Klein noted.

00:36:39.000 This assertion is true.

00:36:40.000 It is also at odds with Kirk's own words.

00:36:44.000 Absolute nonsense.

00:36:45.000 Charlie never called for political violence, not once. 0.85

00:36:47.000 That's insane.

00:36:48.000 It's not merely that Kirk, as Klein put it, defended the second amendment.

00:36:52.000 It's that Kirk endorsed hurting people to advance his preferred policy outcomes.

00:36:57.000 Okay, there is not a single time that Charlie Kirk suggested, quote unquote, hurting people, hurting people, using violence in order to achieve a political outcome.

00:37:08.000 It is only Tanahasse Coates, who in his tacit and not so tacit endorsement of terrorism has done so repeatedly.

00:37:16.000 So what does he say?

00:37:18.000 Quote, what are we to make of a man who called for the execution of the American president and then was executed himself?

00:37:25.000 What in the world?

00:37:27.000 What in the world? 0.99

00:37:29.000 What he said about Joe Biden is that Joe Biden was a tyrant and should be put in prison and/or given the death penalty. 0.73

00:37:36.000 That is not calling for the murder of Joe Biden.

00:37:39.000 I disagree with that.

00:37:40.000 I think it's overwrought.

00:37:43.000 But the but the notion that that is a call for overt political violence, I mean, that that's a thing that Democrats say routinely about President Trump, all the while calling him Hitler, by the way. 0.76

00:37:54.000 But here's what Tanahasie Coates, again, just one of the true garbage bags in the in the literature industry. 1.00

00:38:00.000 And also, given control of comic books for DC, which is just shows you how far the left the culture is. 0.92

00:38:05.000 What are we to make of an NFL that on one hand encourages us to end racism and on the other, urges us to commemorate an unreconstructed white supremacist?

00:38:13.000 Tony Hassi Coates.

00:38:14.000 An unreconstructed white supremacist?

00:38:16.000 Charlie Kirk literally fought off the Nick Flint's white supremacists. 0.87

00:38:23.000 That's why they hated him.

00:38:24.000 And what of the writers, the thinkers, and the pundits who cannot separate the great crime of Kirk's death from the from the malignancy of his public life.

00:38:31.000 Can they truly be so ignorant to the words of a man they have rushed to memorialize?

00:38:34.000 I don't know.

00:38:35.000 But the most telling detail in Klein's column was that, for all his praise, there was not a single word in the piece from Kirk himself.

00:38:42.000 Well, I mean, I could fill literally entire books with Charlie's normie political commentary.

00:38:47.000 We all could.

00:38:48.000 Because it was pretty normy.

00:38:50.000 Again, for the left, the desire to treat Charlie as an other, who therefore was somehow responsible for his own death.

00:38:57.000 That temptation is so strong because they have to project.

00:39:00.000 They have to.

00:39:01.000 With the left, every accusation is in fact an admission.

00:39:05.000 Every accusation is truly an attempt to externalize a problem with themselves.

00:39:13.000 Tanahasie Coates is a writer who has spent years, years creating permission structures for violence. 0.99

00:39:20.000 But he's angry at Charlie after Charlie is murdered.

00:39:24.000 Meanwhile, Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania, he continues somehow to pretend that the burning of the gubernatorial mansion in Pennsylvania with him and his family inside, that somehow that was the result of right-wing political violence.

00:39:37.000 Medude, you got nearly burned to death by a pro-Palestine activist.

00:39:43.000 And let us be clear where those reside.

00:39:45.000 They reside on the political left.

00:39:48.000 And here's Josh Shapiro being truly, truly unintelligent.

00:39:55.000 Unfortunately, some, from the dark corners of the internet all the way to the Oval Office, want to cherry pick which instances of political violence they want to condemn.

00:40:09.000 Listen, doing that only further divides us.

00:40:13.000 And it makes it harder to heal.

00:40:15.000 Violence is never the answer.

00:40:19.000 And we cannot allow violence to be used as a pretext for more violence.

00:40:32.000 how about more, you know, meaningless blather?

00:40:34.000 How about that?

00:40:35.000 Just more gibbering and jabbering.

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00:42:57.000 Okay, so Barack Obama has decided to weigh in, which is just what America needed.

00:43:00.000 We needed Barack Obama, who truly was an unbelievably polarizing figure.

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00:43:07.000 He ran as a unifier in 2008, and then he lied.

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00:43:10.000 It's one of the signal sins of our political history that Barack Obama who was elected to unify America.

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00:43:26.000 And then he proceeded to polarize America by governing hard left and attributing the backlash to his far-left governance to Americans' deep history of deep-seated racism.

00:43:36.000 Well, yesterday, he was doing another obnoxious interview in which he says that we are at an inflection point with regard to political violence.

00:43:43.000 I mean, I wonder how we got to this inflection point.

00:43:45.000 How?

00:43:46.000 How?

00:43:46.000 How could we have done it?

00:43:48.000 I mean, sure, it might have been that time that you effectively justified rioting in Ferguson.

00:43:53.000 It could have been that.

00:43:53.000 Or maybe it was that time, as we'll get to, where you basically blame the police for their own murders in Dallas.

00:43:59.000 Maybe maybe it was it could have been, but no.

00:44:01.000 No, he was just too genteel.

00:44:03.000 He was too genteel.

00:44:04.000 Here's Barack Obama.

00:44:06.000 Again, a man who considers himself holier than the Pope.

00:44:10.000 Here we go.

00:44:12.000 We are certainly at an inflection point.

00:44:17.000 Not just around political violence, but there are a host of larger trends that we have to be concerned about.

00:44:26.000 I think it is important for us at the outset to acknowledge that political violence is not new.

00:44:39.000 It has happened at certain periods in our history.

00:44:46.000 He continued by saying, you know, he disagreed with Charlie Kirk on everything, but he wasn't empowering extreme.

00:44:52.000 And then he blamed Trump.

00:44:53.000 Of course.

00:44:53.000 It's all it's always about Trump.

00:44:55.000 You see, he had nothing to do with the election of Donald Trump.

00:44:57.000 I mean, sure, it was a direct backlash to Barack Obama, But it but it had nothing to do with him, obviously.

00:45:02.000 He's just an observer, a passive observer in America's national history.

00:45:06.000 When it happens to some uh buddy, even if if you think they're quote unquote on the other side of the argument, uh that's a threat to all of us.

00:45:17.000 And we have to be clear and forthright in condemning it.

00:45:22.000 Um that doesn't mean that we can't have a debate about the ideas that people who were victims of political violence were promoting.

00:45:47.000 Uh and so I've noticed that there's been some confusion, I think, around this lately.

00:45:54.000 Uh and and frankly, coming from the White House and some of the other uh positions of authority that suggest even before we had determined who the perpetrator of this evil act was, uh, that somehow uh we're going to identify an enemy.

00:46:23.000 We're gonna suggest that somehow that enemy was at fault, and we are then going to use that as a rationale for trying to silence discussion around who we are as a country and what direction we should go.

00:46:45.000 So here's the thing.

00:46:46.000 When when Barack Obama does this, remember, this ties back into that FCC discussion we were having earlier.

00:46:51.000 This right here is the narrative the left wants to retail.

00:46:53.000 The narrative of the left wants to retail is that Charlie Kirk's shooting is not about Charlie Kirk's shooting, and it's not about the left.

00:46:59.000 It's not about the left's ties with political violence.

00:47:02.000 It's not about the groups that support those political acts of violence.

00:47:06.000 It is not about that.

00:47:08.000 It's about the backlash to free speech.

00:47:11.000 So that is one of the reasons I'm objecting to muddying the waters with the kinds of stuff that we are saying with regard to the FCC.

00:47:17.000 Just gonna note that by way of explaining.

00:47:20.000 Here's President Obama continuing.

00:47:23.000 Obviously, I I didn't know Charlie Kirk.

00:47:26.000 I've was generally aware of some of his ideas.

00:47:33.000 I think those ideas were wrong.

00:47:37.000 But that does but that doesn't negate the fact that what happened was a tragedy and that I mourn for him and his family.

00:47:45.000 He's a young man with two small children and a wife who uh obviously and and a huge number of friends and supporters who cared about him.

00:47:55.000 And so we have to extend grace to people during their sh period of mourning and shock.

00:48:06.000 We can also, at the same time, say that um I disagree with the idea that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a mistake.

00:48:23.000 Okay, so he's extending grace to Charlie.

00:48:27.000 Charlie gets shot, and he's not talking about the left-wing ideologue who shot him.

00:48:33.000 He's not talking about the movement that created the impetus for violence.

00:48:36.000 He is extending grace to Charlie.

00:48:38.000 Don't worry, this is Captain Antipolarization.

00:48:40.000 He's extending his grace to Charlie, because Charlie got shot.

00:48:45.000 Well, isn't that nice of him?

00:48:47.000 Isn't that generous of him?

00:48:49.000 What a self-centered.

00:48:51.000 There we go.

00:48:53.000 That's not that's not me politics the issue.

00:48:58.000 It's it's it's it's making an observation about who are we as a country.

00:49:05.000 I can say that I disagree with the suggestion that my wife or Justice Jackson does not have adequate brain processing power. 0.52

00:49:26.000 I can I can pause it for a second.

00:49:32.000 Okay, if you actually go back to what Charlie said about the quote unquote brain processing power, I want to read you the direct quote.

00:49:39.000 If we would have said three weeks ago that Joy Reed and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Kitanchi Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racist.

00:49:47.000 But now they're coming out and they're saying it for us.

00:49:49.000 They're coming out and they're saying, I'm only here because of affirmative action.

00:49:51.000 Yeah, we know you do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously.

00:49:55.000 You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.

00:50:01.000 Okay, so his argument there is if you say that someone required affirmative action, that is a tacit admission the person does not have the processing power that would have let them in just based purely on merit.

00:50:12.000 That was Charlie's argument.

00:50:15.000 But again, the the idea that Obama is putting forth here is that Charlie was a racist.

00:50:19.000 That is what he's trying to retail here.

00:50:21.000 We have to recognize that on both sides, undoubtedly there are people who are extremists and who say things that are contrary to what I believe are America's core values.

00:50:38.000 But I will say that those extreme views were not in my White House.

00:50:47.000 I wasn't embracing them.

00:50:55.000 I wasn't empowering them.

00:50:57.000 I wasn't putting the weight of the United States government behind extremist views.

00:51:04.000 And that is when we when we have the weight of the United States government behind extremist views, uh, we've got a problem.

00:51:24.000 So it's Trump's fault.

00:51:26.000 Because in his White House, they never emboldened extremist views.

00:51:28.000 Ever.

00:51:29.000 I mean, that's something he never emboldened extremist views.

00:51:31.000 So really, it's the people who embolden the extremist views.

00:51:34.000 So eventually he does get to the permission structures for violence, but then he basically says it's coming from President Trump.

00:51:40.000 I will note at this point that Barack Obama labeled his political opponents' enemies effectively all the time.

00:51:48.000 Happened all the time.

00:51:49.000 He literally had a man helping to run his national security agency, Ben Rhodes, a national security advisor, who was nicknamed Hamas.

00:51:58.000 Barack Obama is a person who retailed the suggestion that opposition to gay marriage was in and of itself bigotry and evil.

00:52:08.000 Barack Obama used the occasion of people being shot in order to promote the agenda of the shooters.

00:52:17.000 Here was Barack Obama's speech with regard to a Ferguson grand jury decision over Michael Brown.

00:52:27.000 I'll never forget this one.

00:52:29.000 Michael Brown was a criminal who robbed a convenience store.

00:52:34.000 And then, when Michael Brown was confronted by a police officer, he reached into the police officer's car, discharged the police officer's gun, tried to run away, and then turned around and charged at the police officer.

00:52:45.000 A series of lies were then told about the police officer.

00:52:47.000 The suggestion was made that he had shot Michael Brown in the back in cold blood.

00:52:52.000 That's where the whole hands-up don't shoot routine came from the political left.

00:52:56.000 It was all a pack of lies.

00:52:57.000 Every single bit of it was a lie.

00:52:59.000 And then, after a grand jury decided not to indict based on actual evidence, the president of the United States got up and said that actually none of it was a lie.

00:53:06.000 People don't just make things up like this.

00:53:08.000 While the rioting was happening, but don't worry, he never emboldened extremism, Barack Obama.

00:53:15.000 What is also true is that there are still problems.

00:53:20.000 And communities of color aren't just making these problems up.

00:53:24.000 Separating that from this particular decision, there are issues in which the law too often feels as if it is being applied in discriminatory fashion.

00:53:37.000 By the way, like the city was burning at this time.

00:53:40.000 So that's a justification of the rioters.

00:53:42.000 That's what that was.

00:53:43.000 He would say, no, I'm against riot.

00:53:45.000 I'm against riding.

00:53:45.000 It's really bad.

00:53:46.000 But the writers do have a point.

00:53:48.000 You do have to acknowledge their concerns.

00:53:50.000 Here is Barack Obama's speech after the murder.

00:53:54.000 There's actually at a memorial service for slain Dallas police officers who were shot by a black lives matter activist.

00:54:00.000 Here was Barack Obama basically ripping on the officers.

00:54:04.000 And while some suffer far more under racism's burden, some feel to a far greater extent, discrimination stink.

00:54:17.000 Although most of us do our best to guard against it and teach our children better.

00:54:25.000 None of us is entirely innocent.

00:54:29.000 No institution is entirely immune.

00:54:33.000 And that includes our police departments.

00:54:36.000 We know this.

00:54:39.000 Just amazing.

00:54:41.000 But don't worry, he never elevated extremism.

00:54:41.000 Just amazing.

00:54:43.000 Again, this is why I say it's not enough to say political violence is bad.

00:54:47.000 We all understand political violence is bad.

00:54:50.000 Or we should.

00:54:51.000 But saying that is the equivalent of just saying violence is bad.

00:54:54.000 It's a childish sentiment.

00:54:56.000 It's a childish but true sentiment, but it doesn't actually do anything.

00:54:59.000 What you actually need to do is call out the permission structures that enable this violence.

00:55:04.000 The permission structures, the ideologies that foment this violence.

00:55:07.000 And if you forward those ideologies while simultaneously claiming to be against political violence, I don't really believe you.

00:55:13.000 I'm sorry.

00:55:13.000 I don't.

00:55:14.000 Meanwhile, President Trump has announced that he is going to target Antifa. 0.78

00:55:19.000 He calls it a sick, dangerous radical left disaster as a major terrorist organization.

00:55:23.000 I will also be strongly recommending that those funding Antifa be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices.

00:55:29.000 Thank you for your attention to this matter.

00:55:32.000 Now, Antifa is a very loosely agglomerated group.

00:55:36.000 It involves a bunch of people who sort of cobbled together.

00:55:39.000 It's not like a rigid top-down hierarchy, but using law enforcement resources to go after Antifa groups is definitely worthwhile because it is an inherently violent organization.

00:55:50.000 Without a doubt.

00:55:50.000 It is worth noting it this way, by the way, that Antifa is trying to actually facilitate, according to their own documents, they're trying to facilitate conflict on the right.

00:56:03.000 In order to distract from their own actions on the left, quote, one possibly useful wedge issue in this context is Israel.

00:56:10.000 Conspiracy theorists have already jumped to blame Kirk's assassination on Massad, claiming the lifelong Zionists was on the verge of becoming J Pill.

00:56:16.000 That's Antifa saying it.

00:56:18.000 So yeah, probably you should believe the people who were associated in a loose way at the very least with the shooter.

00:56:25.000 That seems like a that seems like a good thing to do, is probably do their work for them ideologically.

00:56:30.000 That's a smart move.

00:56:31.000 Meanwhile, the president of the United States is making moves to stop so-called debanking.

00:56:37.000 Debanking is when a bank decides that you are outside their ideological predilections, and they are therefore not going to allow you to have a bank account.

00:56:45.000 And again, just like just like cancel culture, debanking has been applied to an enormous number of people who are just sort of mainstream.

00:56:53.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, banks are now in the crosshairs.

00:56:56.000 Many MAGA Republicans, Christian conservatives, and cryptocurrency libertarians say America's banks are shutting down the personal and business accounts of people whose politics they don't agree with, are unfairly refusing to work with certain industries, such as gun manufacturers or coal companies.

00:57:09.000 The Alliance defending freedom is bringing these tales to Congress.

00:57:14.000 And the Trump administration is acting in August, the president issued an executive order demanding an investigation into politicized or unlawful debanking.

00:57:22.000 So that is a positive thing the Trump administration is doing as well.

00:57:25.000 Meanwhile, an immigration judge has now ruled that Mahmoud Khalil, the pro-terrorist activist with the green card, should be deported to Syria or Algeria.

00:57:37.000 Because as it turns out, he did not disclose certain information on his green card application, including that he worked for the UNRWA, which is in fact just a wing of Hamas.

00:57:48.000 The UN Refugee Works Agency has been dedicated to the Palestinian cause since effectively 1949.

00:57:54.000 And the UN RWA is just a tool of Hamas. 0.67

00:57:57.000 And he didn't put that on his documents when he entered the country.

00:58:02.000 So, yeah, I mean that seems like a good reason to get rid of him.

00:58:05.000 We never should have been led in the country in the first place.

00:58:09.000 In a letter to the New Jersey federal judge, Khalil's lawyer said they have 30 days from September 12th to appeal her decision to the Board of Immigration Appeals.

00:58:21.000 Apparently, the appeal court almost never grants days of removal to non-citizens.

00:58:27.000 So it is very likely that Khalil is in fact going to be Deported, which would be a net benefit to the country. 0.99

00:58:31.000 We do not need people like Mahmoud Khalil, one of the leaders of the Columbia University pro-terror protest movement, which engaged in criminal active.

00:58:40.000 We don't need that guy in the country.

00:58:43.000 Well, bye.

00:58:45.000 Meanwhile, in economic news, the Fed cut the interest rates by a quarter point and signaled that more cuts are likely yesterday.

00:58:53.000 Here is Jerome Powell, the header of the Federal Reserve.

00:58:56.000 There wasn't widespread support at all for a for a 50 basis point cut today.

00:59:00.000 You know, I I think we've done we've done very large rate hikes and very large rate cuts in the last five years.

00:59:07.000 And you tend to do those at a time when when you feel that policy is out of place and needs to move quickly to a new place.

00:59:15.000 That's not at all what I feel certainly now.

00:59:17.000 I feel like our policy has been doing the right thing so far this year.

00:59:21.000 I think we were right to wait and see how tariffs and inflation and the and the labor market evolved.

00:59:27.000 I think we're now reacting to uh, you know, to the much lower level of job creation and other evidence of softening in the labor market and saying, well, those risks are maybe maybe not fully balanced, but moving in the direction of balance now, and so that that warrants a change in policy.

00:59:44.000 So again, the the markets kind of roiled at this.

00:59:48.000 They didn't jump on this news.

00:59:50.000 I think President Trump was expecting the markets to jump on the news.

00:59:52.000 They really didn't.

00:59:53.000 The reason being that Powell is acknowledging a slowing jobs market, and that is the reason why he is having to lower the interest rates.

01:00:01.000 So he's not doing it because the job markets are robust and inflation is coming down.

01:00:05.000 He's doing it because inflation is coming down and the job markets are in fact not robust.

01:00:08.000 And so the markets are reading that.

01:00:11.000 The Wall Street Journal points out that President Trump now has control of the interest rates.

01:00:15.000 He's got the Federal Reserve policy he wants, and so whatever comes next, it is very difficult to blame on Joe Biden.

01:00:21.000 Quote, in their summary of economic projections released after this week's meeting, Fed officials anticipate two more 25-point rate cuts this year and another in 2026.

01:00:29.000 Yet the same SEP projections can see that inflation is proving more persistent than anticipated.

01:00:33.000 They now expect personal consumption expenditure inflation to hit 2.6% next year.

01:00:37.000 That's up from 2.4% predicted in June.

01:00:40.000 They don't actually expect to hit the rate of 2% until 2028.

01:00:44.000 So even though inflation is still 50% higher, 40% higher than it should be, they're afraid that the economy is slowing significantly.

The Ben Shapiro Show - September 18, 2025

Kimmel SUSPENDED After Terrible Charlie Kirk Assassination Take

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