The Ben Shapiro Show - Kirk’s Shooter Had TRANS Boyfriend, Far-Left Views

00:00:00.000 Folks, I hope that you spent a meaningful weekend with friends and family.

00:00:03.000 I hope that you went to church.

00:00:04.000 Your Jewish have been synagogue. 0.92

00:00:06.000 Hope you spent some time with God and with your family, with your community, because that's what Charlie Kirk would have done had he not been assassinated last week.

00:00:14.000 We're gonna get to all the darkness in the world.

00:00:16.000 There's a lot out there.

00:00:17.000 We're gonna analyze what led to the murder of Charlie Kirk.

00:00:20.000 We have new evidence as to what the shooter was doing, what the shooter believed.

00:00:23.000 It is not particularly surprising.

00:00:25.000 We're also going to get to the permission structures that have been created, and it is across the political spectrum, but in this case, and in large scale, we are talking about the political left that has created permission structures for violence.

00:00:35.000 We're gonna get to all of that, but I want to start with the actual uplifting reality that millions of people are coming together in memory of Charlie Kirk.

00:00:45.000 So over the weekend, over five million dollars was raised for Charlie Kirk's family.

00:00:50.000 Turning Point USA, which is Charlie's organization, according to the New York Post, received 18,000 new chapter requests in less than 24 hours after his widow Erica spoke out about the assassination of her husband.

00:01:02.000 And again, it's all heartbreaking and horrifying in every way, except that Charlie's legacy is going to be that millions of people went to church yesterday who wouldn't otherwise have gone to church.

00:01:16.000 Tens of thousands of people are going to get politically involved with TP USA.

00:01:22.000 Millions more are going to take inspiration from Charlie.

00:01:27.000 There will be a funeral for Charlie scheduled for September 21st, which is next Sunday, at State Farm Stadium, which is home of the Arizona Cardinals.

00:01:35.000 President Trump is promising to attend as well.

00:01:40.000 Again, all of this outpouring for Charlie is truly amazing.

00:01:46.000 It really, really is.

00:01:48.000 And I hope that it's some comfort to Charlie's family.

00:01:53.000 Morgan Wallen at his concert over in Canada paid tribute to Charlie Kirk.

00:01:58.000 Here's what that sounded like.

00:01:58.000 It's been hitting me harder in the last couple days and I just wanted to let Erica Kirk know that me and my family are singing prayers their way.

00:02:06.000 God say it with me if you don't.

00:02:09.000 Thank you.

00:02:11.000 Thank you.

00:02:13.000 Chris Martin did something similar.

00:02:15.000 And again, I've been very critical of Chris Martin after some of the incidents with cold play, but he was he was performing and he sent love to Charlie's family.

00:02:25.000 Let's raise our hands like this.

00:02:27.000 And uh send love anywhere you want to send it in the world.

00:02:30.000 There are so many places that might need it today.

00:02:32.000 So here it comes from London.

00:02:34.000 You can send this to your mother or your sister.

00:02:36.000 You can send it to the families of people who have been going through terrible stuff.

00:02:40.000 You can send it to Charlie Kirk's family.

00:02:41.000 You can send it to anybody's family.

00:02:43.000 You can send it to people you disagree with, but you send them love anyway.

00:02:46.000 And again, I think that's one of the things that's coming out of this is that mainstream people, And we'll get to people who are not mainstream in a moment, but mainstream people are coming together around the idea that the core values of the West include things like I disagree with you, and we have discussions, and we don't murder one another.

00:03:06.000 NASCAR driver Christopher Bell dedicated his win to Charlie over the weekend.

00:03:09.000 Here's what that sounded like.

00:03:11.000 This week's obviously been a very tough week, and uh, you know, there's a lot on our mind, and just uh this one's for Charlie.

00:03:21.000 The Oregon football coach, Dan Lanning mourned Charlie as well.

00:03:25.000 Charlie was a major Oregon Ducks fan.

00:03:27.000 Here's what he had to say.

00:03:34.000 I didn't know that.

00:03:34.000 Um I heard for his wife, Erica and their kids.

00:03:37.000 Like that sort of evil should never exist in our country, and that's what it is.

00:03:41.000 It's evil.

00:03:43.000 A wide variety of NFL teams paid tribute to Charlie Kirk over the weekend as well.

00:03:47.000 And here were the New York Jets celebrating Charlie's life.

00:03:50.000 You can hear the ovation.

00:03:51.000 We believe that doing so would make us all...

00:03:57.000 Charlie Kirk was a great light in this world.

00:04:01.000 that will not be extinguished.

00:04:03.000 Thank you.

00:04:14.000 Thank you.

00:04:16.000 And then chance of USA broke out at a wide variety of these events.

00:04:20.000 There was a big event held in Washington, D.C. last night, a tribute event and a prayer event for Charlie, a memorial event, which is quite beautiful.

00:04:29.000 Obviously, for Charlie's family, I can't even imagine.

00:04:33.000 I cannot even imagine.

00:04:35.000 He had two young kids, he has a young wife, they married less than five years, kids who are three and one.

00:04:43.000 Erica Kirk released pretty tough video of herself seated by Charlie's casket holding his hand.

00:04:54.000 Hard to watch, obviously.

00:04:58.000 I love you.

00:05:00.000 I know.

00:05:01.000 I love you.

00:05:04.000 I love you.

00:05:07.000 She then did a pretty extraordinary 16-minute message to the public, which she released on Friday evening.

00:05:14.000 Here's what she had to say.

00:05:17.000 When I got home last night...

00:05:24.000 Our daughter just ran into our arms. 0.98

00:05:29.000 And I talked to her and she said, Mommy, I missed you.

00:05:33.000 I said, I miss you too, baby.

00:05:34.000 She goes, Where's Daddy?

00:05:37.000 What do you tell a three-year-old?

00:05:39.000 She's three.

00:05:44.000 I said, baby.

00:05:46.000 Daddy loves you so much.

00:05:47.000 don't you worry he's on a he's on a work trip with jesus so he can afford your blueberry budget She then um she then did send this inspiring message.

00:06:05.000 She said, Listen, you may think that you killed Charlie's memory.

00:06:09.000 Precisely the opposite.

00:06:10.000 Precisely the opposite.

00:06:11.000 You have no idea what you just unleashed.

00:06:13.000 Erica's a strong person.

00:06:17.000 The evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea what they have done. 0.97

00:06:29.000 They killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism, faith, and of God's merciful love.

00:06:40.000 But they should all know this.

00:06:43.000 If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before, you have no idea.

00:06:53.000 You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country.

00:06:59.000 And this world, you have no idea.

00:07:03.000 You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife. 0.84

00:07:11.000 The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry.

00:07:19.000 Again, Erica is herself a relatively public figure. 0.87

00:07:23.000 She's very involved in the Christian community in giving.

00:07:26.000 She's been politically involved as well.

00:07:29.000 And her picking up Charlie's mantle would be not only appropriate, but an excellent, excellent thing for her to do.

00:07:36.000 Meanwhile, we now have more news about the nature of the shooter.

00:07:42.000 Now there are some who at the end of last week were saying that the shooter might not have been somebody of the left.

00:07:47.000 This is a bit of a tête-a tete that I had with Bill Maher on his show on Friday night, where I explained to him that the shooter was almost undoubtedly a person of the left.

00:07:55.000 And he said, Well, you don't know that.

00:07:56.000 It could have been McGruiber.

00:07:57.000 I said, I mean, sure, it could be a Gruper, but all the evidence does not point to that.

00:08:01.000 Like literally all the evidence points to somebody of the left and somebody who is involved with trans issues.

00:08:06.000 Well, as it turns out, that is precisely what happened here.

00:08:10.000 And that is not unexpected.

00:08:12.000 That is not unexpected in any way, shape, or form.

00:08:15.000 The reason that that is not unexpected is because there are certain ideologies in the United States and abroad.

00:08:20.000 There are certain ideologies that create violent ramifications.

00:08:26.000 That it's inherent in the ideology that there will be radicals of the ideology who engage in violence.

00:08:33.000 Not all ideological movements are the same.

00:08:35.000 The sort of flattening of all ideologies into, oh yes, all ideologies are equally likely to lead to violence.

00:08:40.000 That is not true.

00:08:42.000 No one gets shot with regard to discussions over marginal tax rates.

00:08:47.000 No one gets shot over discussions of raising or lowering the age of social security.

00:08:54.000 These are not the things that people get shot over.

00:08:57.000 There are, however, ideologies that breed violence that breed them.

00:09:02.000 And you can spot those ideologies.

00:09:06.000 You can spot them.

00:09:07.000 They have certain features in common.

00:09:09.000 As we discussed last week, the ideologies that breed violence usually have three features in common.

00:09:14.000 Future number one is a conspiratorial view of the universe in which a shadowy cabal of very powerful people are conspiring to make your life worse, to ruin your life.

00:09:24.000 Your failures are not your own.

00:09:25.000 They are the faults of this shadowy cabal, this evil cabal of people you can't quite name them.

00:09:31.000 You might have some inkling of who they are.

00:09:34.000 And very often these ideologies use the word they a lot.

00:09:37.000 A lot of they.

00:09:39.000 Not specific, they second, a belief that your specific group or you personally are targeted for destruction by that shadowy cabal, which leads to, number three, a belief that violence is self-defense.

00:09:53.000 That all the arguments that you are hearing are actually just a facade for poor.

00:09:56.000 It's a point made by the terrible left-wing philosopher Michel Foucault, one of the most damaging philosophers in all of history, who made the argument that there really are no real arguments and no real discussion points.

00:10:05.000 There is merely power.

00:10:07.000 So if you believe that all arguments, Charlie's arguments, for example, are not arguments.

00:10:12.000 They are just disguises for power.

00:10:14.000 They're a facade for an iron hand, and that he is part of a shadowy cabal of people who are controlling your life and ruining your life and making your life miserable and threatening you with quote unquote transgenocide. 0.81

00:10:27.000 Well, then you are much more likely at the edges to engage in violence.

00:10:32.000 And we know precisely which sorts of ideologies fit this bill.

00:10:35.000 It is not a gigantic secret.

00:10:38.000 We know which ideologies fit the bill that hit all three of those things.

00:10:42.000 Remember, that conspiratorial view of the universe, a belief that your specific group is targeted by that conspiracy.

00:10:48.000 And three, a belief that violence is therefore justified in pursuit of ending the conspiracy as a form of self-defense.

00:10:56.000 We know which ideologies fit that bill.

00:10:58.000 Trans ideologies fit that bill because the basic idea there is if you say a man is a woman, that is not an argument.

00:11:03.000 That is not even a statement of biological fact.

00:11:06.000 That is, in fact, a guise for power that you are trying to leverage against me.

00:11:11.000 You're trying to harm me, you're trying to erase me. 0.95

00:11:13.000 And therefore, I am justified in ending the pseudo-transgenocide by doing physical harm to you. 1.00

00:11:21.000 And this has always been an inherent part of trans ideology.

00:11:24.000 And by the way, the permission structures that have been created around it.

00:11:27.000 That is just a reality.

00:11:29.000 I'm old enough to remember personally being manhandled, and I use that word advisedly by a man who believed he was a woman on CNN Headline News in 2015, and the entire left wing defending the physical assault on national TV.

00:11:44.000 Because again, that was inherent.

00:11:46.000 I was a threat.

00:11:46.000 I was the problem for saying words.

00:11:48.000 Words were a form of violence.

00:11:50.000 And so again, this is just part and parcel of a broader program.

00:11:54.000 Other ideologies have these aspects too.

00:11:57.000 Left-wing Marxism has this view, that rich people, by their very existence, are a threat to poor people.

00:12:04.000 They've stolen from poor people, they're exploiting poor people. 0.67

00:12:07.000 Their arguments about wealth, their arguments about innovation are not actually arguments, they're maintenance of systemic power structures.

00:12:14.000 And thus they must be laid low. 0.99

00:12:16.000 The only way to fight the rich people is to kill them, to do violence against them. 0.97

00:12:21.000 This is why Marxist movements generally end with revolutionary violence. 0.81

00:12:25.000 It is the thing that lies behind Bill Burr screaming at people free Luigi after a murderer kills a United Healthcare CEO.

00:12:31.000 After all, that United Healthcare CEO, he was rich.

00:12:34.000 And not only was he rich, he was getting rich by victimizing people. 0.99

00:12:37.000 And that meant that he totally deserved to be killed. 1.00

00:12:40.000 Free Luigi. 0.98

00:12:42.000 Or white supremacist ideology, which says that I, as a white person, am being targeted by a shadowy system, not like a specific law, which again, we can have arguments about affirmative action.

00:12:53.000 Affirmative action is a specific law that redounds to the non-benefit to the detriment of white people.

00:13:01.000 That's not what we're talking about here. 0.82

00:13:02.000 We're talking about the idea that failures of white people in any way, shape, or form, are a result of a systemic of an evil system that has been cultivated by people of color and or Jews, is what white supremacists believe. 0.85

00:13:16.000 And therefore, violence against them is somewhat justified or totally justified. 0.78

00:13:21.000 BLM had the same aspect. 0.96

00:13:26.000 And arguments about crime rates, for example, are not really arguments.

00:13:29.000 They're just Guises for power, and the only way to fight back against those systems is to loot businesses and burn them down and to do acts of violence and then excuse them.

00:13:37.000 Radical Islam makes the same claim, that the very existence of other civilizations that are more successful is a threat to them.

00:13:47.000 Because not that those civilizations are more successful because you know they pursue better things.

00:13:51.000 It must be because they are exploitative and terrible, and thus they must be wiped from the planet.

00:13:56.000 This is why the undying hatred of, for example, the Palestinian movement against the very existence of the state of Israel, it won't go away because it's embedded, it's encoded in the system.

00:14:06.000 The basic idea is the existence of Israel is the threat. 0.98

00:14:11.000 Again, all these ideologies have that same basic framework.

00:14:14.000 A giant shadowy conspiracy that means that my life is worse.

00:14:17.000 My failures are not my own.

00:14:18.000 They're the result of a system.

00:14:20.000 All arguments made in favor of the system are an aspect of power.

00:14:22.000 Speech is violence, therefore I can use whatever is at hand in order to do violence.

00:14:27.000 The reason that I lay all of this out is because it is now quite clear what was happening with this particular shooter.

00:14:33.000 Spencer Cox, the Utah governor, came out over the weekend and said, yes, we now know that the shooter in this case, one Tyler Robinson was indoctrinated with left-wing ideology.

00:14:43.000 Here he was on ABC's This Week.

00:14:46.000 You told the Wall Street Journal that Tyler Robinson was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology.

00:14:53.000 Have investigators uncovered evidence to show that.

00:14:58.000 Well, so far, that that has come from his acquaintances and his family members.

00:15:03.000 That's where that initial information has come from.

00:15:06.000 Certainly there will be much more information that is released in the charging documents as they're bringing all of that together.

00:15:14.000 So apparently the suspect is not cooperating with the police.

00:15:17.000 That of course is not a giant surprise for Spencer Cox.

00:15:20.000 He has not confessed to authorities.

00:15:23.000 He is not cooperating, but all the people around him are cooperating, and I think that's very important.

00:15:31.000 Mm-hmm.

00:15:33.000 So what do we know about him personally?

00:15:35.000 Well, we know that he was left-wing by pretty much all available evidence, including people who knew him well, people who have said this openly.

00:15:44.000 According to Cash Patel, we know actually that apparently he left some sort of note saying he had an opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and that he was going to take it.

00:15:57.000 This is according to Cash Patel, the head of the FBI.

00:16:00.000 He said that the authorities have seen evidence of a text message exchange between the shooter and a second individual.

00:16:05.000 Quote, his family has collectively told investigators he subscribed to left wing ideology and even more so in these last couple of years.

00:16:11.000 He claims he had an opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and he was going to do it because of his hatred of what Charlie stood for.

00:16:17.000 And Meanwhile, Spencer Cox says that we know that the suspect in this case had a furry fixation, meaning that he was fixated on this very online, very weird subculture of the internet in which people sexualize animals, fetishize people dressed as animals.

00:16:41.000 And he had a trans boyfriend, which of course is not surprising, any way, shape, or form.

00:16:47.000 And the the slogans that were etched apparently on the bullets were all gamer and or trans-oriented slogans.

00:16:54.000 Notices bulge, OWO, for example.

00:16:57.000 According to the New York Post, alleged Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson appeared to have a fixation on furries.

00:17:03.000 Well, his live-in transgender boyfriend espoused support for President Joe Biden and joked about being mentally ill, according to social media post link to the pair. 0.61

00:17:11.000 Lance Twiggs, 22, an aspiring pro-gamer and Robinson's roommate appeared to have made a comment in a 2022 Reddit post stating we are riding with Biden on this glorious subreddit.

00:17:21.000 Twiggs is transitioning from male to female and was in a relationship with the 22-year-old Robinson.

00:17:29.000 By the way, Spencer Cox is no rabid right-winger on this issue.

00:17:32.000 He's been criticized, I think correctly, by many on the right for being too soft on things like the transing of the children. 1.00

00:17:38.000 Here is Spencer Cox.

00:17:40.000 There were reports yesterday that that that uh that we can confirm that uh that his roommate was indeed a boyfriend uh who is transitioning from uh from male to female.

00:17:52.000 Uh that's that's information that the FBI had uh had mentioned yesterday.

00:17:56.000 Uh, we can't confirm that as well.

00:18:00.000 None of this is surprising in any way, shape, or form.

00:18:04.000 Because the takeaway from this transgender person's boyfriend must have been, and surely was, that Charlie Kirk was somehow a threat to his boyfriend because Charlie Kirk was clearly correct that his boyfriend was in fact a boy and not, in fact, a girl. 0.90

00:18:24.000 According to Axios, authorities are investigating whether Tyler Robinson believed Kirk's view on gender identity were hateful to people like Robinson's transgender roommate.

00:18:34.000 And they keep calling it transgender roommate.

00:18:36.000 Um, no, you mean boyfriend.

00:18:39.000 Apparently they had a romantic relationship.

00:18:43.000 And that's a hell of a way to demean the nature of romance, but sure.

00:18:47.000 Investigators believe Robinson's anger at Kirk's views could be a key to establishing a motive for the slaying of Charlie Kirk.

00:18:54.000 Each of the six sources familiar with the investigation told Daxios investigators believe that Robinson was having a quote unquote romantic relationship with his roommate.

00:19:05.000 His romance apparently consists of dressing up as a furry and then shooting people to death.

00:19:16.000 Axios' sources said investigators initially wanted the information about the roommate's gender identity kept quiet because that person is being extremely cooperative with authorities.

00:19:24.000 Well, I mean, again, I'm not saying that it's the roommate's fault.

00:19:28.000 It is the shooter's fault.

00:19:30.000 But this is the ideological soil from which the shooter was springing, clearly.

00:19:38.000 Apparently, Cox said on Meet the Press on NBC, while Robinson comes from a conservative family, his ideology was very different than his family.

00:19:46.000 He said clearly there was a lot of gaming going on.

00:19:48.000 Friends have confirmed there was that kind of deep dark internet, the Reddit culture, and these other dark places of the internet where this person was going deep.

00:19:54.000 And that obviously is true even from the bullets.

00:19:56.000 The bullets themselves were etched with a bunch of gamer slogans.

00:19:59.000 And again, the the sort of unwellness that is associated with people who sit in their room all day playing video games.

00:20:09.000 That is it, that is a real form of social isolation that can have consequences for those with predispositions toward mental fragility, shall we say.

00:20:20.000 And it's not that video games are blamed.

00:20:22.000 There are literally hundreds of millions of people who play video games and don't go shoot activists like Charlie. 0.94

00:20:27.000 But to pretend that there is no brain effect of doing this sort of thing, sitting in your room all day with your aspiring transgender boyfriend, talking about politics, self-radicalizing, and then going and shooting somebody is to be incredibly, incredibly silly and to ignore that which is right in front of us, obviously. 0.98

00:20:45.000 Robinson's bizarre ties to the furry lifestyle have now been revealed, according to the New York Post. 0.67

00:20:50.000 An account on the website, furAffinity.net, which features sexualized images of cartoon animal characters, features an account naming, an account name matching one that Robinson used on his various gaming and online accounts.

00:21:01.000 Friends told the Daily Mail.

00:21:04.000 According to one official, it's pretty clear Robinson's roommate knew a lot and didn't say anything after the killing, so they are a person of interest officially and are cooperating.

00:21:11.000 We want to keep it that way.

00:21:13.000 I mean, that seems correct.

00:21:17.000 That seems obviously correct.

00:21:19.000 I mean, the it wasn't the roommate that turned him in.

00:21:21.000 It wasn't the boyfriend who turned him in.

00:21:23.000 It was his conservative Christian parents who turned him in.

00:21:27.000 And the roommate was receiving messages like, I left my rifle in the bushes.

00:21:31.000 Can you go pick it up for me?

00:21:32.000 It was only when he was confronted by the police as, oh no, really.

00:21:38.000 Interesting.

00:21:40.000 According to the New York Post, Robinson's online presence points to a hodgepodge of liberal ideology, gamer style humor, and post-ironic memes.

00:21:49.000 Apparently, he was joking around with his pals on Discord, which is another one of these open-thread websites.

00:21:58.000 He was joking with his friends that his doppelganger was the one who shot Charlie Kirk after the feds released his photos while he was on the run.

00:22:05.000 According to the New York Post, the 22-year-old accused assassins' chats with his pals lit up on the social media messaging platform Thursday afternoon.

00:22:14.000 One of his virtual buddies the similarity and tagged Robinson, writing WYA, which is short for Where You At, alongside a skull emoji.

00:22:24.000 Robinson wrote back within a minute, said that it was a doppelganger trying to get him in trouble.

00:22:30.000 And people encouraged him to turn himself in to claim the FBI's 100,000 reward, and he said, only if I get a cut.

00:22:39.000 And then there were jokes made about Luigi Mangeon.

00:22:43.000 And Robinson jested, quote, he better get rid of this manifesto and exact copy rifle I have lying around.

00:22:51.000 And then the accused gunman went on to mock the FBI's investigation, referencing the trans scribblings found on the ammo and claiming it was all fabricated by some dude in the briefing room.

00:23:02.000 So again, it was only when he was confronted by his parents after admitting it that he was turned in.

00:23:08.000 It was not the transgender partner who turned him in.

00:23:12.000 And again, there were messages from Robinson to his trans partner, literally asking him to go pick up the rifle where he had left it.

00:23:22.000 Again, to ignore the inherent violence of certain movements.

00:23:26.000 This doesn't mean that everyone associated with the movement is violent.

00:23:28.000 It does mean that certain ideologies are more prone to breed violence, and anyone who tells you differently is lying to you.

00:23:35.000 It is not a shock that the source of Charlie's assassination is coming from this movement, is involved apparently in this ideology that is not a shock at all.

00:23:46.000 It is so not a shock that pretty much everybody who heard about what happened to Charlie immediately jumped to that conclusion.

00:23:52.000 Because again, the reason we jump to conclusions is we know which ideologies are most violent.

00:23:58.000 Nobody, nobody believes that people who stump for lower taxes are going around just murdering people on the basis of tax rates.

00:24:06.000 Again, nobody believes that evangelical Christians who go to church a lot that those are the people who are going around shooting people.

00:24:19.000 The reaction to Charlie's death has been gigantic memorials and more people going to church and no violence.

00:24:25.000 There are certain ideologies that breed violence and in fact are worse than other ideologies.

00:24:30.000 We should not be culturally or ideologically relativistic about this.

00:24:36.000 As Rich Calder points out, the assassination of conservative pundit Charlie Kirk marks the latest example of a growing wave of murders and other shootings committed by transgender people and others advocating for their rights. 1.00

00:24:47.000 The transgender shooter who murdered six people at Nashville's convent school in March 2023 raged about hating America, being miserable while being raised as a girl, and wanting to kill all the white kids. 0.89

00:24:59.000 And that was hidden by the cops for like a year. 0.97

00:25:02.000 It was only Daily Wire that broke a lot of the manifesto.

00:25:06.000 The deranged shooter who slaughtered two children and injured at least 21 others at that Catholic school in Minneapolis, identified as a transgender woman.

00:25:17.000 Another shooter, sentenced to life in prison after being found guilty as part of a notorious 2019 mass shooting at a Colorado charter school.

00:25:24.000 Told police he targeted classmates who mocked his gender identity.

00:25:28.000 That shooter was born female and then said that she was a male.

00:25:34.000 Said students at the STEM School Highlands Ranch called him disgusting, made fun of him and repeatedly referred to him as a she.

00:25:40.000 Well, the New York Post should refer to him as a she since uh he was a she. 0.99

00:25:46.000 Another shooter was convicted to and sentenced to life in prison.

00:25:51.000 Another 26-year-old transgender male killed three people and injured three others before killing himself during a 2018 shooting in Maryland at a right-aid warehouse.

00:26:01.000 Again, the insanity here is coming from a place.

00:26:07.000 And it does have deeper permission structures attached to it.

00:26:10.000 And here is the real problem.

00:26:11.000 I mentioned a bunch of ideologies.

00:26:13.000 Some of those ideologies have broader acceptance among mainstream parts of the American political debate.

00:26:18.000 I named five ideologies before that trend toward violence because inherently the ideology makes the claim that there is a conspiracy that is victimizing me, and therefore I am justified in using violence to silence the speech of those people because their speech is violent.

00:26:32.000 Those five ideologies were, again, in order trans Marxist, white supremacists, BLM, and radical Muslims.

00:26:39.000 Now the question is which ones of those ideologies find mainstream acceptance?

00:26:44.000 Which ones have had permission structures created around them that make them more mainstream, that wink and nod at violence.

00:26:53.000 Which ones?

00:26:55.000 The only one that could be considered quote unquote right wing.

00:26:58.000 I would argue it's not even right wing. 0.96

00:27:00.000 I would argue that it's just racialist is white supremacists.

00:27:07.000 Is there a mainstream infrastructure that accepts the white supremacists?

00:27:11.000 I will note at this point that Charlie Kirk spent an enormous portion of his career fighting the Groipers. 0.65

00:27:16.000 The Grupers literally declared a group of war on Charlie Kirk in 2019, trying to take over his organization TPUSA from the outside. 0.85

00:27:25.000 The leader of that movement literally yelled at me and my small child in a stroller as I walked into a Charlie Kirk event a few years back.

00:27:33.000 Okay, so does that movement have wide mainstream acceptance?

00:27:37.000 No.

00:27:37.000 How about trans?

00:27:38.000 Well, we know that that has wide mainstream acceptance, and that the arguments of that movement have been broadly applied across the left.

00:27:45.000 That it is a form of violence to say that men are not women, that it is a threat to say men are not women.

00:27:51.000 How about the Marxist idea that rich people need to be leveled?

00:27:55.000 That rich people are somehow doing some sort of violence to poor people simply by their existence.

00:28:01.000 I mean, not only is that widely accepted, that matrix of thought widely accepted, it is elevated by huge portions of our political elite on the left.

00:28:11.000 How about BLM?

00:28:12.000 Well, we know that you were perceived to be a racist if you didn't back the idea that white supremacy was in charge of the country, and that this is the reason why there are differential crime rates and differential income rates and differential wealth rates in the United States.

00:28:29.000 And excuses were made for violence.

00:28:31.000 Permission matrices were created for violence for BLM.

00:28:34.000 This is why the media treated two billion dollars in property damage and multiple deaths as though it never happened.

00:28:41.000 BLM was so important that you could literally go outside and cough on each other in the middle of a COVID lockdown because it was that important. 0.99

00:28:47.000 How about radical Islam?

00:28:48.000 We know the entire left has now surrounded the idea and is cheering the idea of radical Islam in the form of Palestinian terrorism. 0.89

00:28:57.000 We know that that there's a reason that all these groups march together.

00:29:01.000 There's a reason that all these groups are on college campuses together, because matrices for permission structures for violence are quite common on the left.

00:29:09.000 This is reflected in the polling, by the way.

00:29:12.000 There is a recent poll that came out from Ugov asking a question.

00:29:16.000 Do you generally consider it to be acceptable or unacceptable acceptable for a person to be happy about the death of a public figure they oppose?

00:29:25.000 According to Republicans, 77% of Republicans say it is always unacceptable for a person to be happy about the death of a public figure they oppose.

00:29:37.000 53% of independents feel the same.

00:29:40.000 Only 38% of Democrats believe it is always unacceptable for a person to be happy about the death of a public figure they oppose.

00:29:49.000 Only 38%.

00:29:53.000 That means that some 44% of Democrats believe that it is sometimes acceptable, usually acceptable, or always acceptable.

00:30:01.000 And 18% are unsure.

00:30:05.000 Why?

00:30:06.000 Because again, left-wing views have significant crossover with these permission structures of violence.

00:30:12.000 They do.

00:30:14.000 And you look no further than the elite mockery or rewriting of Charlie's legacy by people to suggest that Charlie was somehow deserving of what happened to him because they didn't like his views.

00:30:34.000 Elizabeth Spears, who's written extensively for legacy media outlets, including the Washington Post, wrote a piece of the nation called Charlie Kirk's Legacy deserves no mourning.

00:30:42.000 None.

00:30:43.000 The white Christian nationalist provocateur wasn't a promoter of civil discourse.

00:30:47.000 He preached hate, bigotry, and division. 0.96

00:30:49.000 And now, notice how she is mixing up the content, what she believes to be hate, bigotry, and division, which of course is total nonsense.

00:30:57.000 Go watch Charlie's tapes.

00:30:59.000 Charlie was not preaching hate, bigotry, and division.

00:31:02.000 Charlie was a normie conservative.

00:31:05.000 He was about as normie a conservative as it is possible to be.

00:31:08.000 He held mainstream positions on virtually all things.

00:31:12.000 She says, though, he wasn't a promoter of civil discourse because she dis notice the mixing up of the means with the substance.

00:31:21.000 She disagreed with Charlie, therefore he wasn't promoting civil discourse.

00:31:24.000 Okay, now I can totally disagree with certain people and recognize that They promote civil discourse, that they at least engage in civil discourse.

00:31:33.000 I've been on a bunch of those shows in the last couple of weeks.

00:31:37.000 I disagree with Abby Phillip on everything over at CNN.

00:31:40.000 Abby Phillip is not promoting violence.

00:31:42.000 We had a civil discourse.

00:31:44.000 Van Jones, right?

00:31:46.000 I disagree with Van on a lot of stuff.

00:31:48.000 Van promotes civil discourse.

00:31:50.000 By the way, his lot of people are angry at Van because what Van said last week with regard to Charlie Kirk and the horrible murder of the Ukrainian refugee aboard a Charlie and Van apparently were trying to touch base behind the scenes.

00:32:03.000 I know that because Charlie and I talked off air before the interview the day before he died, in which Charlie said that he actually liked Van very much and was reaching out to him to try to have him on the show.

00:32:11.000 And Van, I know, because I've talked to Van, actually did get a DM from Charlie and then didn't have time to respond before Charlie was murdered.

00:32:17.000 Okay, there are a lot of people who you disagree with who are perfectly happy to promote civil discourse.

00:32:22.000 But according to mainstream parts of the left, if you disagree with them, you are inherently doing something that does not promote civil discourse and in fact promotes violence, and therefore violence might be just a little bit justified.

00:32:34.000 According to Elizabeth Spears, quote, who's an unrepentant racist, transphobe, homophobe, and misogynist who often wraps his bigotry in Bible verses because there is no other way to pretend it was morally correct. 0.77

00:32:45.000 He had children, as do many vile people.

00:32:52.000 Okay, well, if you're if you're treating this as the as though this is not a permission structure for violence, you're reading it wrong.

00:33:02.000 It is a permission structure that doesn't, there's a difference between an overt call for violence and a permission structure for violence.

00:33:07.000 A permission violence, permission structure for violence says, well, you know, somebody gets shot that you don't like and go, well, you know, you know, mmm.

00:33:18.000 Yeah, the violence is bad.

00:33:20.000 But political violence is bad, but if you're doing that, you're creating a permission structure for violence.

00:33:26.000 And she is when she says things like, I'm sorry for Kirk's children.

00:33:31.000 I don't know if Kirk was a good father, but if he was, that does little to mitigate the damage he did to other people's children.

00:33:37.000 I can only hope for the sake of his kids.

00:33:39.000 They have role models who will teach them it is wrong to profit off the dehumanization of people because of who they are.

00:33:48.000 She says, I'm fairly sure Kirk did not care about my child.

00:33:53.000 She says, I do not believe anyone should be murdered because of their views.

00:33:56.000 But there's that big word.

00:34:01.000 I do not believe anyone should be murdered because of their views, but that is because I don't believe people should be murdered generally, regardless of who they are or what they've done.

00:34:10.000 All murders matter, in other words.

00:34:13.000 Kirk was fine with murder as long as the right people were dying.

00:34:15.000 Okay, well, this is just a permission structure for violence.

00:34:19.000 That's all it is.

00:34:20.000 That's all it is.

00:34:21.000 And it is promoted by the biggest outlets in America.

00:34:24.000 It is promoted by the biggest outlets in America.

00:34:26.000 The New York Times is Peter Baker.

00:34:29.000 Over the weekend, he said, Well, you know, Charlie did get people riled up.

00:34:33.000 He did get people around.

00:34:34.000 Welcome to politics, where we say things that we don't agree with, and sometimes people get riled up.

00:34:40.000 That is the nature of a democratic republic.

00:34:43.000 Here is Peter Baker.

00:34:45.000 He said a lot of things that got a lot of people riled up, right?

00:34:49.000 And that's part of his uh that was part of his uh style about race, about uh gender, about affirmative action and Islam and things like that.

00:35:00.000 Um, but he also enjoyed going to college campuses like the one he was at, even though he knew an audience there might include people who didn't agree with him and he and he and he liked to mix it up.

00:35:09.000 Uh and he's uh uh you know become become in this last few days, I think a symbol of the uh of the toxic culture that we're in right now.

00:35:22.000 Right.

00:35:23.000 You know, that's a good point.

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00:37:29.000 I think the greatest example of the willingness of the left to create permission structures for violence is the total, total insanity, insanity of what the New York Times did over the weekend. 0.98

00:37:41.000 The New York Times is a pile of steaming hot trash. 1.00

00:37:45.000 It is a flaming bag of dog sh, the New York Times. 1.00

00:37:49.000 What a terrible, terrible publication. 0.94

00:37:51.000 The same publication that ousted Barry Weiss for the great crime of having approved an op-ed by Tom Cotton, saying that maybe we should use the National Guard against riots, published in op-ed by Hassan Piker, the Twitcher, the Twitch gaming streamer, who has not only created permission structures for violence, he has openly called for violence. 0.99

00:38:16.000 And they gave that asshole an op-ed in the New York Times titled I Was Supposed to Debate Charlie Kirk. 0.84

00:38:23.000 Here's what I would have said. 0.99

00:38:25.000 And the entire, the entire piece is just a permission structure for violence.

00:38:28.000 That's all it is.

00:38:29.000 The entire piece says that Charlie's killing was an outgrowth of capitalism.

00:38:35.000 It was an outgrowth of homophobia.

00:38:37.000 It was an outgrowth of all the bad things that Hassan Piker doesn't like.

00:38:41.000 Quote.

00:38:43.000 Even before knowing exactly why Mr. Kirk was killed, I think there are some disturbing and necessary insights that can be drawn from his horrible death.

00:38:49.000 Ideas that affect the way many of my viewers and many of the people who followed Mr. Kirk see the world.

00:38:54.000 The first of these insights is hardly new.

00:38:56.000 The United States has both very loose gun laws and more violent gun deaths per capita than any other developed nation in the world.

00:39:02.000 The second idea is more general and is connected to perhaps why these kinds of killings happen in the first place.

00:39:07.000 Violence almost never originates in a vacuum.

00:39:10.000 And the killing of a high-profile political content creator speaks to a breakdown in our social order.

00:39:17.000 Any answer about civic decline in America has to include a discussion about the failure of our political and economic establishment to reconcile with social challenges that have touched every place and aspect of American life.

00:39:28.000 The social challenges include rising rents and homelessness, the destruction caused by climate change, Titanic levels of inequality, and too many others to name here.

00:39:36.000 Our capitalist way of life, always accumulating, never evening out, leaves more and more people to deal with these problems on their own.

00:39:42.000 So it was it was lack of low rent, obviously was affordable, but it was capitalism.

00:39:47.000 This produces feelings of isolation and resentment as material conditions worsen.

00:39:51.000 And considering our society is swamped by, and yet somehow stitched together by a 24-7 news cycle that too often feeds this resentment.

00:39:58.000 It is little wonder that a country of stressed out gun owners would have so many grim, needless gun deaths.

00:40:02.000 This connects to my final idea.

00:40:04.000 Americans inhabit a culture of violence to which we have become habitually desensitized. 0.99

00:40:08.000 There's a connection between our culture of violence and American foreign policy.

00:40:12.000 Yes, it was the war in Iraq, you see.

00:40:14.000 For years, American politics has taken on an increasingly punitive flavor.

00:40:18.000 During the George W. Bush era, Arabs and Muslims wore and remain singled out for suspicion.

00:40:23.000 He's just doing the Norm MacDonald joke now. 0.95

00:40:25.000 The old Nor McDonald joke was if ISIS were to set off a nuclear bomb and kill 50 million people, I fear the Islamophobia. 0.83

00:40:31.000 So now Hassan Piker's just doing that joke, but real. 0.75

00:40:35.000 During the George W. Bush era, Arabs and Muslims were remaining the Islamophobia killed Charlie, as it turns out. 0.56

00:40:41.000 Unbelievable.

00:40:41.000 Wow.

00:40:42.000 What can't it do?

00:40:46.000 The Barack Obama years were not so much a correction as continuity with drone strikes, night raids, and forever war.

00:40:51.000 What followed in President Trump's first tournament in Joe Biden's administration was still more of the same, rights Hassan Piker.

00:40:55.000 Extreme rhetoric about designated American enemies combined with aggressive sanctions and secret operations, a foreign policy organized around punishing and killing our supposedly sworn enemies, diplomacy be damned, conveys the terrible message that we can only kill and mame our way to achieving the world we want to live in.

00:41:10.000 I fear this is most evident in Wait for It, America's ironclad support for Israel. 0.81

00:41:17.000 So pulling a gun or launching a missile has become a part of our national character, a sad reduction of morality to the time it takes for fingers to pull the trigger.

00:41:27.000 Americans, especially younger Americans feel a sense of growing hopelessness, as so many of those in power refuse to listen to their struggles economic and otherwise.

00:41:34.000 This entire article is a permission structure for violence.

00:41:37.000 You can see why they're doing it.

00:41:38.000 It's because of the war in Iraq that desensitizes us to violence. 0.95

00:41:41.000 It's because capitalism and its predation, says the millionaire jackass who gallivants around in muscle t-shirts on f Twitch. 0.81

00:41:52.000 Hey, you want to know why I'm a little upset about this? 0.89

00:41:54.000 Here's the reason I'm a little upset about this.

00:41:56.000 New York Times invites Hassan Piker to write an op-ed obit about Charlie Kirk, a person he disagreed with about everything, as a sort of what emblem of decency, as some sort of promoter of decent dialogue.

00:42:10.000 Hassan Piker, the same people on the left, Elizabeth Spyers and others, are suggesting that Charlie was not an advocate for you know debate.

00:42:18.000 And he was debating Hassan Piker.

00:42:19.000 He had before, apparently.

00:42:21.000 Let me play you some Hassan Piker. 1.00

00:42:23.000 You know what a permission structure for violence looks like?

00:42:25.000 It looks like this.

00:42:27.000 Here is Hassan Piker talking just, you know, like two weeks ago about his uh about his lamentation that Donald Trump was still alive.

00:42:36.000 A lot of people were concerned.

00:42:37.000 Everyone was like so worried for the safety of the big beautiful president.

00:42:41.000 They were like, oh no, I hope that's not the case.

00:42:43.000 I hope he's not dead.

00:42:44.000 It would be so sad if he died. 0.97

00:42:47.000 Except psych, everybody was stoked.

00:42:49.000 Everybody, oh my God, when it happens, like there isn't, I don't, I can't think of anything that so many people can point to without actually saying it.

00:43:00.000 I I'm not even joking.

00:43:02.000 Like, what else have we had as a collective, as a society, where we can just kind of point to it without even saying anything, and everybody understands it.

00:43:14.000 Like virtually everybody understands it.

00:43:17.000 Now, as I've warned you before, evil never dies, as I warned you before, this is like, you know, uh a byproduct of the Turkification of the United States of America. 0.99

00:43:26.000 Yeah, we were we were monitoring the situation on Trump's untimely demise.

00:43:30.000 Obviously, uh it didn't happen. 1.00

00:43:32.000 He's golfing this morning, son of a bitch. 1.00

00:43:35.000 Uh, that was a lot of fun, though. 1.00

00:43:37.000 Here was Hassan Piker talking about spilling blood in the streets of capitalists.

00:43:43.000 Seems like somebody who he's very anti-violence, you see.

00:43:46.000 He's really forwarding the debate, Hassan Piker.

00:43:48.000 He's a person you definitely need in the New York Times with an obit about Charlie Kirk basically blaming his death on capitalism and the natural predations of a country that supports Israel and engaged in the Iraq war, creating exactly the permission structures for violence, creating them.

00:44:04.000 But don't worry, he's nonviolent.

00:44:05.000 Listen to him be nonviolent.

00:44:06.000 Here we go.

00:44:12.000 I don't know how that works.

00:44:13.000 Well, my understanding is that the property owners who have properties there choose just not to rent it at all. 1.00

00:44:20.000 Kill those motherfuckers. 1.00

00:44:21.000 Murder those motherfuckers in the street. 1.00

00:44:22.000 Let the streets let the streets soak in their fing red capitalist bloods, dude. 1.00

00:44:28.000 I mean, that that's wow.

00:44:31.000 So much nonviolence.

00:44:32.000 I mean, what probably he should get an op-ed in the New York Times about Charlie's murder, probably.

00:44:37.000 Or how about this one from 2022, talking about you know what should happen to people he disagrees with?

00:44:44.000 I'm sick and tired of it.

00:44:46.000 Left wingers, liberals, you need to be showing your opponents' guts on there, okay? 0.98

00:44:53.000 You need to be gutting them. 0.99

00:44:55.000 You need to be shanking these and letting their letting their intestines just ride on stage. 1.00

00:45:03.000 What the f is this man? 1.00

00:45:06.000 Slice him up. 1.00

00:45:08.000 Slice him and dice him. 0.99

00:45:10.000 What the f is this?

00:45:11.000 You cannot have a bigger fing layup.

00:45:17.000 Okay, and um, and then um, how about this one where uh he said that it doesn't matter if rapes happen on October 7th?

00:45:22.000 Don't worry, he's very opposed to violence, very, very opposed to political violence, says the New York Times.

00:45:27.000 Probably should give him an op-ed.

00:45:28.000 When I say that the left creates permission structures for violence, it's because they do.

00:45:33.000 Hassan Piker was given a massive profile in the New York Times just a few months ago.

00:45:37.000 Hassan Piker was invited by the New Yorker to speak at the New Yorker festival.

00:45:41.000 He's being treated as though he is he was taking pictures with Zoran Mamdani, another pro-terrorist fellow on the left, like five minutes ago.

00:45:52.000 Here he was talking about Nov about October 7th.

00:45:58.000 Doesn't matter.

00:45:59.000 Doesn't matter if rapes happen on October 7. 1.00

00:46:02.000 Like that doesn't change the dynamic for me even this much.

00:46:05.000 So that's the other part of this problem that many people can't contend with.

00:46:09.000 Like the Palestinian resistance is not perfect.

00:46:12.000 They're not like so good.

00:46:13.000 They have magical bullets, uh, and and there is no criminal elements that uh could have conducted themselves very differently.

00:46:20.000 Like that that doesn't change the dynamic for me at all.

00:46:24.000 Here was Hassan Piker justifying 9-11.

00:46:29.000 This is so insane.

00:46:32.000 America deserved 9-11, dude.

00:46:35.000 I'm saying it.

00:46:38.000 Here he was saying he had no issue with Hezbollah, another terrorist group.

00:46:41.000 Is there a terrorist group he doesn't love?

00:46:42.000 But don't worry, he's a non-violent advocate for free speech and and solid debate in the New York Times.

00:46:49.000 Don't tell me that the left isn't fomenting violence when they create permission structures and celebrate people who create permission structures and and in some cases openly celebrate terrorist violence.

00:46:59.000 Hezbollah is a paramilitary organization that is also a Uh part of the Lebanese parliament.

00:47:09.000 Do we like them or no?

00:47:12.000 I think as a resistance group, they're pretty successful against Israel. 0.94

00:47:16.000 Um, but everybody hates them.

00:47:19.000 Like everybody in the region, a lot of people don't like them.

00:47:22.000 Like, I like what you like.

00:47:24.000 I don't have an issue with them.

00:47:26.000 Let's just say.

00:47:26.000 Hezbollah is responsible for the murder of 241 Americans in the Beirut barracks bombings in the early 1980s.

00:47:35.000 Here is Hassan Piker saying that Zionists, by which he means Jews, he does. 0.98

00:47:40.000 Should be treated as rabid neo-Nazis.

00:47:44.000 I I think like this will never happen, but in a totally just world, any kind of regardless of your background, any kind of uh Zionist tendency should be treated in the same way as as being a f rabid neo-Nazi.

00:48:00.000 And you couldn't even you shouldn't even let someone be the fing local dog catcher as uh as Felix was posting, if they've ever exhibited any sort of any sort of like positive feelings about the state of Israel.

00:48:16.000 I'm so serious about this.

00:48:20.000 Hmm.

00:48:21.000 Hmm.

00:48:22.000 Probably we should give him an op-ed in the New York Times about the the sources of political violence.

00:48:27.000 He can call it if I did it.

00:48:30.000 Meanwhile, again, this has spread across a large part of the left.

00:48:35.000 Oxford's president, who debated Charlie Kirk, the president-elect was promoting political violence just the other day over at Oxford.

00:48:46.000 To effectively create change in the world we desire.

00:48:49.000 And side probe will argue that at times there's simply nothing else that can be required other than violent retaliation.

00:48:55.000 And this is a view I wholeheartedly agree with.

00:48:57.000 This view, the view that some institutions are too broken, too aggressive, too oppressive to be reformed, like cancers of our society.

00:49:06.000 They must and they should be taken down by any means necessary.

00:49:11.000 Hmm.

00:49:12.000 I wonder where is the violence coming from?

00:49:14.000 I don't know.

00:49:15.000 It's it's it's it's all a mystery.

00:49:17.000 Remember that Bob Villain character?

00:49:18.000 Remember that guy?

00:49:20.000 The one who is on stage in in Britain saying death, death to the IDF.

00:49:25.000 Remember that?

00:49:27.000 At Glastonberry?

00:49:28.000 Well, um, it turns Out that the same people who hate the IDF and the same people who hate Western civilization more broadly and hate America and hate Trump, it turns out that they are perfectly excited about Charlie Kirk's murder.

00:49:40.000 Just ecstatic about it.

00:49:42.000 Here was Bob Villain saying that he was happy that Charlie had been murdered. 1.00

00:49:49.000 I want to dedicate this next one to an absolute piece of shit. 1.00

00:49:58.000 The pronouns was if you take you will get banged. 1.00

00:50:12.000 Rest in peace, Charlie. 0.90

00:50:15.000 Turn to peace.

00:50:16.000 *Footsteps*

00:50:19.000 Thank you.

00:50:21.000 So what exactly was he saying there?

00:50:23.000 If you could not hear him there, he said, I want to dedicate this next one to an absolute piece of bleep of a human being.

00:50:29.000 And then he said, the pronouns was were, because if you talk bleep, you will get banged. 0.98

00:50:34.000 Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk, you piece of bleep. 0.68

00:50:36.000 Then later he claimed that he wasn't actually celebrating Charlie's death.

00:50:39.000 Because no, of course not.

00:50:40.000 Of course not.

00:50:42.000 A permission structure of violence.

00:50:44.000 It's not enough to just say political violence is bad.

00:50:47.000 If you say with one hand, hey, I don't like political violence, and with the other hand, let the blood run in the streets of the capitalists.

00:50:53.000 Or you know why Charlie was sure was shot, it's because of systemic problems with capitalism and the capitalists and the war in Iraq and the people I disagree with.

00:51:01.000 That's why Charlie was shot, and you know, you know, it's bad he was shot. 0.97

00:51:06.000 But if the ideologies you humor are conspiratorial ideologies that end with the result, I don't like this viewpoint, therefore speech is violence and you deserve to be murdered, you are part of the problem. 0.86

00:51:19.000 And you should be called out for that.

00:51:21.000 You want to know why the numbers are going up on this?

00:51:23.000 You want to know why the heat is going up.

00:51:25.000 That's why the heat is going up.

00:51:27.000 And the crocodile tears from the New York Times of all places, while they while they promote precisely the kinds of people who do this, insane.

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00:53:36.000 Okay, meanwhile, apparently the left has decided that it's cancel culture now.

00:53:41.000 If you wish Charlie Kirk's death, if you celebrate Charlie Kirk's death, and then you lose your job, that's cancel culture.

00:53:47.000 Okay, let me explain.

00:53:48.000 That is not cancel culture.

00:53:50.000 That's not.

00:53:51.000 Cancel culture is where you dig up somebody's 15-year-old tweet because you want to ruin their life.

00:53:56.000 Cancel culture is where you say something that's basically innocuous or Inside the Overton window, so to speak, and then everybody comes along and ruins your life.

00:54:04.000 Make a dumb joke on Twitter and everybody ruins your life.

00:54:07.000 Okay, that's cancel culture. 0.99

00:54:08.000 You know it's not cancel culture.

00:54:10.000 Somebody saying, I don't wish to pay somebody who celebrates the death of Charlie Kirk.

00:54:14.000 I'm sorry, if you post online that you're very, very happy, if you post a TikTok video of yourself celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk and your employer decides, hey, I don't feel like paying you, that is perfectly legitimate.

00:54:25.000 If you say, I don't feel like going to the business of somebody who celebrates Charlie Kirk's death, that is perfectly within her rights.

00:54:33.000 That is also an aspect of freedom.

00:54:37.000 Now, let's be real.

00:54:38.000 All of politics is extremely reactionary.

00:54:40.000 And what that means is that because the left was so enamored, because the left was so enamored of censorship and shutdowns that they shut the Overton window this small, like super tight.

00:54:53.000 There's a reaction by the right, which said that everything that was socially condemned or societally criticized was a form of cancel culture.

00:55:01.000 And that was a bad definition, and it isn't true.

00:55:05.000 You as an employer have no obligation to hire a current member of the neo-Nazis.

00:55:10.000 You don't.

00:55:10.000 That is not cancel culture.

00:55:12.000 You as an employer do not have an obligation to employ nurses who post on TikTok about how much they're happy that Charlie Kirk is dead.

00:55:20.000 You don't.

00:55:22.000 A cancel culture is a different thing. 1.00

00:55:24.000 And we ought to be more specific about it and listening to the left caterwall about it. 0.93

00:55:28.000 Yeah, guys, my sympathy for you is absolutely zero.

00:55:32.000 Zero.

00:55:33.000 Alrighty, meanwhile, the again, the permission structures of the left are incredibly strong.

00:55:37.000 Kathy Hogel has now embraced Zaran Mamdanny. 1.00

00:55:40.000 She has endorsed Zaran Mamdanni, a person who supports terrorism, a person who is on board with every one of the scavenger movements that I've described here. 0.99

00:55:52.000 I mean, that that is what the Democratic Party is doing.

00:55:56.000 Stop pretending that ideologies are all the same.

00:56:00.000 And you can see it at work over at the Emmys.

00:56:03.000 It's the Emmys were last night.

00:56:04.000 And naturally, I mean, first of all, the self-involvement of the MA's insane.

00:56:08.000 So the host, Nate Bargazzi, he said he wasn't going to do politics, and he didn't.

00:56:12.000 Not so for the people who are there.

00:56:14.000 None of them had a single word to say about the murder of a person who is kind of in their business.

00:56:19.000 I mean, Charlie was certainly in the political entertainment business.

00:56:22.000 There's no question that that's the case, right?

00:56:23.000 He appeared on many of their shows in terms of appearing on late night shows.

00:56:27.000 Obviously, he was he was the butt of a joke on South Park, which he very much enjoyed, by the way, and thought was hilarious.

00:56:33.000 Not a single mention of Charlie.

00:56:35.000 Not a single mention.

00:56:37.000 But many mentions of support for wait for it, wait for it, wait for it, Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

00:56:45.000 The left is perfectly fine with violent movements so long as they mirror their political priors, so long as they believe that the system itself is corrupt.

00:56:51.000 And these are the benefits.

00:56:52.000 This is what makes Hollywood glitterati nonsense so appalling. 1.00

00:56:55.000 Really true, like nauseating crap. 0.99

00:56:58.000 The reason is because these are the greatest beneficiaries of America. 1.00

00:57:02.000 These are talented idiots, many of them with the brains of guppies, who are walking around jabbering about politics. 1.00

00:57:10.000 This is why Ricky Gervais, years ago at the Emmys, told everybody at the Golden Globes, I believe, said, You're all making asses of yourself. 1.00

00:57:17.000 Just stop. 0.98

00:57:18.000 No one needs to hear you on politics. 1.00

00:57:19.000 You're ridiculous. 1.00

00:57:20.000 You have less education than Greta Thunberg. 1.00

00:57:22.000 He was right.

00:57:22.000 They still aren't stopping.

00:57:24.000 So you have Javier Bardem denouncing genocide and got there.

00:57:27.000 There wasn't a single word said about Charlie Kirk at this event.

00:57:29.000 Not one.

00:57:30.000 Not one.

00:57:31.000 It's the biggest political assassination in the country in probably 50 years.

00:57:33.000 Not a single word at the Emmys, but plenty of words in defense of terrorists in the Gaza Strip.

00:57:43.000 Here I am today, uh denouncing the genocide in Gaza.

00:57:47.000 I'm talking about the IAGS, which is International Association of Genocide Scholars who study thoroughly genocide.

00:57:57.000 And that's why we ask for a commercial and diplomatic block blockade and also sanctions on Israel to stop the genocide free Palestine. 0.88

00:58:09.000 Thank you, Javier Barnam.

00:58:11.000 Your words are taken under advisement.

00:58:12.000 Meanwhile, Hannah Einbinder, who I'd never heard of because she, I guess she's in a show called Hacks.

00:58:17.000 And um, and she is, again, she's like Bernie Sanders, about as Jewish as a ham sandwich, but likes to pretend that she is somehow associated with Jewishness in order to promote wild anti Judaic left-wing Points of view, she decided to use her time to not only promote a terrorist state, but also to say F ice, which is just great. 0.86

00:58:42.000 Finally, um, I just want to say, I just want to say, finally, um, go birds, um guys, and free Palestine. 0.62

00:58:52.000 Thank you.

00:58:56.000 Uh, she followed that up by suggesting that she she, as a Jew, she had to separate off from the idea that the Jews support Israel.

00:59:01.000 Uh, no, Jews don't support you. 0.99

00:59:04.000 Jews don't support you, because you are a clown masquerading as somebody who has any association with Jewishness. 1.00

00:59:11.000 While enjoying, again, the best that Western civilization has to offer fancy dresses, fine wines, $50,000 swag bags, an Emmy award for saying words that someone else wrote. 0.99

00:59:23.000 Congrats to you, Hannah Einbinder.

00:59:25.000 Again, this is what Hollywood is. 0.99

00:59:27.000 A virtue signaling, luxury belief, permission structure for violence group of complete dullards. 0.99

00:59:37.000 I feel like it is my obligation as a Jewish person to distinguish Jews from the state of Israel because our religion and our culture is such an important and long-standing basically like institution that is really separate to this sort of ethno-nationalist state.

01:00:05.000 And in terms of the pledge, um, it's like many movements boycotting is an effective tool to create pressure on the powers that be to meet the moment, you know.

01:00:19.000 So the film workers for Palestine boycott does not boycott individuals.

01:00:25.000 It only boycotts institutions that are directly complicit in the genocide. 0.99

01:00:32.000 She's a clown. 0.99

01:00:32.000 I mean, first of all, it's not even factually true. 0.99

01:00:34.000 It boycotts institutions like the Tel Aviv Film Festival, which is it's great crime, is existing.

01:00:39.000 But again, this is what Hollywood is.

01:00:41.000 This is what Hollywood is. 1.00

01:00:43.000 It's idiot jokes who are who pretend to be profound while simultaneously standing for some of the most violent people on planet Earth. 1.00

01:00:53.000 This goes away back all the way back to Jane Vana standing for the you know fangirling over the Viet Cong. 1.00

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01:02:11.000 But you know who they're really excited for.

01:02:13.000 They're really excited for Stephen Colbert because if there was one hero of the week in terms of free speech last week, it wasn't the man who got shot while debating.

01:02:20.000 It was Stephen Colbert, who is a victim of being paid tens of millions of dollars to do a horrible show with low ratings and blowing extraordinary quantities of cash on his overproduced junkyard of a television late night show.

01:02:36.000 *outro music*

01:02:42.000 So much heroism.

01:02:44.000 So much heroism.

01:02:48.000 And of course, they're very wow, look at that.

01:02:51.000 Congrats to Stephen Colbert, who is probably worth a hundred million dollars for being just horrible at his job.

01:02:56.000 But he got fired.

01:02:57.000 And that means he's a hero.

01:02:59.000 A true hero of the Republic.

01:03:04.000 Thank you very much.

01:03:07.000 We gotta go.

01:03:09.000 But uh, while I have your attention, is anyone hiring.

01:03:15.000 He then went on to talk about, you know, his own heroism.

01:03:19.000 His own heroism for you know having been fired for not being a good host.

01:03:25.000 Sometimes you only truly know how much you love something when you get a sense that you might be losing it.

01:03:31.000 And 10 years later, in September of 2025, my friends, I have never loved my country more desperately.

01:03:38.000 God bless America.

01:03:40.000 Stay strong.

01:03:42.000 Be brave.

01:03:43.000 And if the elevator tries to bring you down, go crazy and punt a higher floor.

01:03:48.000 Woo! 0.99

01:03:52.000 Oh, what a hero.

01:03:53.000 What a hero.

01:03:54.000 Well, at least we know they're on the right side of history. 0.97

01:03:57.000 Well, you know, these ridiculous people at the Emmys congratulating themselves. 0.84

01:04:01.000 The good news is that their reach is relatively limited. 0.85

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01:04:06.000 How many people watch the 2024 Emmys?

01:04:08.000 It's too early for the ratings.

01:04:09.000 And how many people go to church in the United States on a typical Sunday?

01:04:12.000 The answer is the average audience for the Emmy Awards telecast in 2024 was somewhere between 6.87 and 6.9 million people.

01:04:21.000 Which was an increase over 2023, but still not huge numbers.

01:04:26.000 A little under 7 million people.

01:04:27.000 Meanwhile, church attendance in the United States.

01:04:32.000 Gallup's most recent data indicates regular weekly church attendance in 2025 stands at 20% of Americans, which amounts to somewhere between 66 and 70 million people.

01:04:43.000 And, you know, on a monthly basis, somewhere between 135 and 145 million people go to church.

01:04:49.000 And church attendance is going up.

01:04:51.000 The Emmy ratings, uh, they've been bouncing around, but they're still remaining pretty low.

01:04:55.000 I would imagine that Sunday the churches were packed.

01:04:58.000 That's that's what the report I was hearing from all my Christian friends.

01:05:00.000 I will say that at my synagogue on Saturday, not only was it packed, but every synagogue that I know, every single shoal that I know had a prayer specifically for Charlie, or a speech specifically about Charlie, talking about what he meant to the country.com and go and help out.

01:05:19.000 You should join TPUSA if you haven't already.

01:05:21.000 You should go check out Charlie's show today.

01:05:24.000 JD Vance, President of the United States is hosting Charlie Kirk's show.

01:05:28.000 There are a wide variety of links available over at TPUSA to help Charlie's family, to help out TPUSA.

01:05:32.000 As people have been saying, TPUSA is a great organization to associate with.

01:05:38.000 If you want to start a chapter, you should.

01:05:40.000 If you want to get money, you should.

01:05:41.000 There's a give, send, go for Charlie's family as well.

01:05:44.000 I encourage you to go associate more with the folks over at TPUSA.

01:05:50.000 And remember that now that Charlie is no longer here, he's still here so long as people pick up that microphone.

01:05:57.000 That's all of you.

01:05:59.000 And going and spreading the word.

01:06:00.000 Are you folks who've reached the end of the show?

01:06:02.000 We'll be back here tomorrow with much more.

01:06:03.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

The Ben Shapiro Show - September 15, 2025

Kirk’s Shooter Had TRANS Boyfriend, Far-Left Views

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