00:00:03.000Well, because it's being celebrated by a lot of people.
00:00:06.000It's being helped out by liberal-minded judges, populist politicians, the absolute insanity of social media.
00:00:11.000That's why alleged CEO killer Luigi Mangione is cleaning up in the courts and in the media, and why his alleged murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson is only the beginning of our political violence problem.
00:00:22.000Plus, we'll get to the most hotly fought GOP primary in recent memory in Kentucky, starring gadfly and conspiracist Thomas Massey, a shooting At an Islamic center in San Diego, and why the call her daddy lady is suddenly cosplaying conservatism?
00:00:50.000The Luigi Mangione case, which of course sprang up now about a year ago when Luigi Mangione allegedly shot to death United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, then went on a gigantic sort of media spree.
00:01:04.000He ran all over the country and people were trying to find out who he was, and he had a whole fan base that emerged.
00:01:10.000All of that leads to more political violence.
00:01:12.000A society that greenlights political violence by essentially arguing, number one, that these systems you don't like, Are murderous systems.
00:01:20.000And thus, people who participate in those systems must be murdered.
00:01:24.000Any society that greenlights that is just greenlighting political violence.
00:01:28.000And then when you have liberal systems that are set up to let criminals off the hook, it gets even worse.
00:01:33.000So, there's a big trial update for Luigi Mangione.
00:01:36.000Yesterday, a judge ruled that while the murder weapon was admissible at trial, a bunch of other evidence was suppressed.
00:01:43.000So, a New York judge has now ruled that some key evidence that was seized from his backpack during his arrest at a Pennsylvania McDonald's is inadmissible at trial.
00:01:51.000Some of it can still be shown to jurors.
00:01:55.000It is also not particularly well founded.
00:01:59.000So, essentially, the evidence that's been ruled admissible includes the gun, a 3D printed silencer, and a red notebook that allegedly contains a bunch of damning writing.
00:02:09.000The evidence to be suppressed, however, includes a phone, Mangione's passport, loaded magazines, a wallet, and a computer chip.
00:02:16.000The judge in this particular case said he agreed with the defense argument that the search of Mangione's backpack at McDonald's without reading him his rights.
00:02:24.000Was unconstitutional because it had been moved away from arm's reach.
00:02:28.000Well, New York law is super duper duper weird.
00:02:32.000Hey, first of all, it's unclear why New York law should be applied, even though the entire search happened in Pennsylvania.
00:02:37.000The judge wrote Defendant is being tried in New York for a crime that occurred in New York.
00:02:41.000Under these circumstances, it is clear that New York is the forum state and that New York has a paramount interest in the application of the law.
00:02:47.000Suppression issues, procedural issues, and evidentiary issues are governed by the law of the forum state.
00:02:54.000And the reason it's strange is if he'd been caught in California, Why exactly would the cops in California have to know New York law in order to properly do their job?
00:03:05.000Well, in any case, New York's laws on this sort of stuff are insane.
00:03:09.000First of all, the federal law with regard to search and seizure is totally crazy.
00:03:13.000Under a case called Mapp versus Ohio, which is one of these critical criminal law cases you learn in law school year one, Mapp versus Ohio established the so called exclusionary rules.
00:03:23.000So, believe it or not, for the vast majority of American history, if there was an illegal search and seizure, somebody broke into your house, the cops broke into your house, and they found evidence of a crime.
00:03:31.000That evidence was still admissible in court.
00:03:35.000There might be a lawsuit against the cop.
00:03:37.000But Mapp versus Ohio established the so called exclusionary rule, which said that if your Fourth Amendment rights are violated, then we can't even use the evidence in court.
00:03:46.000Now, the reason this is particularly stupid is because it is penalizing the general public for the failures of the cops.
00:03:51.000So the cops failed to fully follow the Fourth Amendment.
00:03:55.000And now criminals have to be let out on the street.
00:03:58.000Unless they quote unquote redo your rights.
00:04:00.000I know we all take this for granted now because we've watched a bunch of episodes of Law and Order, but it really is quite stupid.
00:04:05.000The idea that you have to be read your Miranda rights.
00:04:09.000Somebody has to inform you of your right not to self incriminate, for example.
00:04:13.000Otherwise, we'll take the evidence and throw it out of court.
00:04:15.000Really, really, really dumb and means that lots more criminals get off and end up on the streets.
00:04:21.000Well, in this particular case, New York law goes even further.
00:04:24.000New York law has something called the exigency exception.
00:04:27.000Okay, so what that means is that you are allowed to search somebody without a warrant or without any warning if there's threat of exigent danger, right?
00:04:39.000There's a guy who's running away from you and he's firing a gun at you.
00:04:42.000You tackle him and you search his pockets and you come up with drugs.
00:04:45.000So that would be the exigent circumstance.
00:04:47.000In this particular case, they say that the property must be within the suspect's immediate control or grabbable area, but the backpack was moved away from him to a table about nine feet away, at which point it was now no longer in his control.
00:04:59.000And so they therefore could not search it without having the evidence excluded.
00:05:04.000However, later they also searched the backpack after they had seized all the property and they had a proper warrant and they had already read him his rights.
00:05:13.000The officers didn't search the backpack itself at McDonald's.
00:05:18.000So they did have sort of an independent source.
00:05:21.000And so typically, under the law, even if there's a Fourth Amendment violation, if there's an independent source of the information, then you're still allowed to use it.
00:05:29.000So let's say, for example, that you're arrested before somebody reads you your Miranda rights, you immediately blurt out that you did the crime.
00:05:36.000You haven't been informed of your rights, you just blurt out that you did the crime.
00:05:44.000As to why some of this evidence is being thrown out.
00:05:48.000But the bottom line is that so much of our criminal justice system has been twisted in favor of the perpetrator and against the victims, that is part and parcel of a broader effort over the course of the last 70 or 80 years in American law to grant outsized rights to perpetrators as opposed to defending the general public from those perpetrators.
00:06:09.000But that's not the really big issue here.
00:06:10.000The really big issue when it comes to Luigi Mangione, of course, is the fact that he has a lot of supporters.
00:06:15.000There's been an entire permission structure that's been set up largely by the left that says if you don't like the systems of American life, those systems are intractable, they're unchangeable, and people who participate in the systems are guilty.
00:06:29.000I'm old enough to remember because I'm more than 15 years old.
00:06:32.000I'm old enough to remember the Occupy Wall Street protests.
00:06:36.000Occupy Wall Street was a movement that came up in the aftermath of the Great Recession 2009, 2010.
00:06:40.000And there are a group of people on the left who, instead of protesting the government's involvement with Wall Street, decided to protest Wall Street itself.
00:06:52.000Now, that was a completely misdirected use of mental and emotional resources because, after all, the members of Wall Street are not answerable to the general public.
00:07:00.000They're operating in the private sphere.
00:07:02.000If you wish to protest public policy, we have a whole city called Washington, D.C., where federal public policy gets made.
00:07:09.000But that's not what the left is protesting.
00:07:10.000They're not protesting government involvement in industry, they're not protesting government's heavy hand.
00:07:17.000They're protesting that government, they say, is actually not doing Enough to be involved.
00:07:21.000They are protesting the existence of the private sector itself.
00:07:24.000And so if they don't like the systems, they blame members of the private sector for participating in those systems.
00:07:30.000And you can see this throughout left wing politics.
00:07:33.000In soft version, you see it in Zorhan Mamdani saying ridiculous and insane things about the nature of how the world should work.
00:07:43.000All righty, coming up, we'll get into the left's agenda, their permission structure for violence.
00:07:47.000Plus, Gad Sad will join the show, and we'll get into the Thomas Massey primary in Kentucky.
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00:10:35.000Again, the entire left wing thought structure is that failures are attributable to the private sector.
00:10:41.000So, if you're a person who's in the private sector and you're paying somebody a wage that they wish to accept from you, you are therefore responsible for all the problems of their life.
00:10:53.000Government is always and forever the fix.
00:10:55.000And so, for example, if you don't like the healthcare system, it is not that the healthcare system in the United States is heavily regulated and heavily subsidized, all of which is true.
00:11:03.000The United States healthcare system is a mess, but one of the reasons it is a mess, the biggest reason it is a mess, is because of the heavy hand of government involved in everything.
00:11:12.000But according to the left, The people involved in the private sector are bad.
00:11:15.000The people involved in the public sector are good.
00:11:18.000And this creates a phenomenon that they like to call social murder, which justifies violence.
00:11:23.000So if, for example, you're Brian Thompson, a father, a person who raised himself up from not particularly wonderful economic circumstances in his youth to become the head of United Health, one of the biggest insurers in America.
00:11:36.000And if it turns out that you operate within the law and that the law itself is flawed, but you operate within it, you are responsible for death.
00:11:46.000So, yesterday, outside of the trial of Luigi Mangione, some self proclaimed Mangionistas named Abro Rios, Ashley Rojas, and Lena Weisbrot showed off passes that they had received, according to the New York Post, from Mayor Zorhan Mamdani's administration.
00:12:04.000And they got press passes, apparently for their content following the Mangione trial.
00:12:10.000But they're pretty clear, these so called reporters, about their beliefs about Mangione, which is that he was justified in murdering allegedly.
00:12:18.000Here are Rojas and Weissbrot making that case.
00:12:23.000If you guys are okay with someone like Ryan Thompson being around and that being a part of our society, that's more about you as a person because you look absolutely monstrous.
00:12:37.000Defending someone like that would be super difficult.
00:13:03.000Brian Thompson responsible for more deaths than Osama bin Laden because he ran an insurance company, and that insurance company sometimes denied claims.
00:13:11.000And if you believe that they were unjustifiably denying your claim, then you would take them to court.
00:13:14.000Again, this isn't to say that our systems are wonderful when it comes to health insurance.
00:13:18.000Again, health insurance largely at this point is simply health coverage because it turns out. that you're not insuring against the possibility of future risk.
00:13:25.000You are very often covering people who have conditions you know about in advance.
00:13:29.000But that's to get into the complexities of the system.
00:13:31.000The idea that Brian Thompson, by being the CEO of a major insurance company, was somehow like Osama bin Laden, who literally ordered the flying of planes into buildings in New York is psychotic, but is an increasingly popular view with people on the left who, again, believe that the private sector is responsible for all of the ills of society and that all the systems that they don't like Are run by people who are attempting to do things like murder.
00:13:57.000Here are Ashley Rojas and Weisbrot again saying that they actually liked Brian Thompson's murder.
00:14:29.000Okay, these people are saying they literally liked the murder, and his kids, Brian Thompson's kids, are better off without him.
00:14:35.000Now, lest you think that I'm just nut picking here, I'm just taking some nuts off the tree and then pointing them out.
00:14:39.000Hassan Piker was talking about quote unquote social murder with regard to Mangione to the New York Times like a couple of weeks ago, and this guy is considered a mainstream political commentator by the left, up to and including people like Ezra Klein and John Favreau.
00:14:53.000Again, this was with the New York Times, him saying the same kind of nonsense.
00:14:59.000Wrote about the concept of social murder.
00:15:04.000And Brian Thompson, as the United Healthcare CEO, was engaging in a tremendous amount of social murder, the systematized forms of violence, the structural violence of poverty, the for profit, paywalled system of healthcare in this country, and the consequences of that are.
00:15:30.000Tremendous amounts of pain, tremendous amounts of violence, tremendous amounts of deaths.
00:15:35.000And that was a fascinating story for me because Americans are very draconian about crime and punishment.
00:15:43.000They're very black and white on this issue.
00:15:45.000And yet, because of the pervasive pain that the private healthcare system had created for the average American, I saw so many people immediately understand why this death had taken place.
00:16:04.000If you want more political violence in the United States, the left will bring it to you.
00:16:10.000There's a reason why a quarter of young people on the left totally approve of political violence because it is part and parcel of the system of thought that they have built up.
00:16:18.000When you start treating private sector activity as quote unquote social murder because it has externalities that you don't like, but meanwhile, the government regulatory systems that drive that activity are somehow good.
00:16:30.000And what you actually need is top down government tyrannical control.
00:16:33.000So if you're a member of the government, you're never answerable to the American public.
00:16:36.000But if you are a member of the private sector, you're answerable in terms of possibly being murdered because people like Hassan Piker.
00:16:42.000Are you talking about how you have committed social murder?
00:16:45.000It's a form of self defense to murder CEOs at this point.
00:16:49.000And then you wonder why people are increasingly being shot over politics.
00:17:58.000And much of life is about finding that sweet spot.
00:18:01.000And that exact principle applies to empathy.
00:18:04.000If I have no empathy, I'm likely to be a psychopath.
00:18:07.000If I have too much empathy, if empathy hyperactivates in the wrong situations toward the wrong targets, you end up with suicidal empathy.
00:18:19.000So, yeah, this manifests in a bunch of ways.
00:18:21.000Most obviously, It manifests, as you talk about in your book, with sort of an open immigration protocol on the part of the West.
00:18:26.000People care so much and they're so empathetic to people outside the West that they say, Come on in, enjoy all of the benefits, all the goodies.
00:18:42.000So, in my previous book, In the Parasitic Mind, I talk about how many parasitic ideas can hijack our ability to reason.
00:18:49.000So, take, for example, cultural relativism, which is a parasitic idea.
00:18:53.000It basically says that you're not allowed to Draw any negative, pejorative judgments of other people's cultural beliefs, religious beliefs, and so on.
00:19:02.000So, if they wish to engage in honor killings, shut up, racist.
00:19:06.000If they wish to engage in female genital mutilation of five year old girls, shut up, racist.
00:19:11.000So, that then renders you impotent when you're standing there deciding on what type of immigration policy you should have.
00:19:18.000You then argue in a suicidally empathetic way that it is wrong for you to argue that not all immigrants are equally likely to assimilate within the American ethos.
00:19:29.000Everybody should have a chance, and therefore, your inability to discriminate between one set of cultural values and another leads to the disaster we see today.
00:19:39.000So, again, I have a concept that I've posited before when I'm talking about your idea, extending it a little bit further, which is this concept that I've called homicidal empathy, which is basically the idea that you empathize with a group of people, and your empathy with that group of people is so strong that you yourself join them in their murderous ideas.
00:19:56.000And I think you see this an enormous amount in the West.
00:19:58.000We were talking a moment ago about the people who are sympathetic to Luigi Mangione.
00:20:02.000And so their basic idea is, and Hassan Piker has said this, that he is so empathetic toward people who have suffered under the American healthcare system that actually the people who are running that system, the people who are in the insurance companies, those people are guilty of what he calls social murder.
00:20:16.000So his empathy for people who are supposed victims of the insurance system is so strong that actually it's probably okay to murder healthcare CEOs because that's also coming from empathy.
00:20:27.000It's empathy for one group leads to murderous hatred of another group.
00:20:39.000Deontological ethics is an absolute statement.
00:20:43.000It's never okay to lie, would be a deontological statement.
00:20:46.000If you were to say it's okay to lie to spare someone's feelings, that's a consequentialist statement.
00:20:51.000So the ones who, as you say, are suffering from homicidal empathy are applying a consequentialist ethic to murder.
00:21:00.000It's okay to murder that guy because otherwise the world would be much darker.
00:21:04.000So, therefore, murder is allowed for that guy.
00:21:07.000It's a very, very dangerous way to think.
00:21:12.000So, again, in your book, Suicidal Empathy, obviously, I think you're taking a pretty kind view of many of the people who dislike Western civilization.
00:21:20.000And so, I wonder if you think that the empathy is really sort of the biggest problem here, or do we actually have something that's happening in the United States and Europe that may be even deeper, which is not even that this is driven by empathy.
00:21:32.000People maybe want to flatter themselves and believe that it's driven by empathy, but actually, what it's driven by.
00:21:36.000Is envy and actually dislike and hatred of particular groups, particularly people who are successful or civilizations that are more successful.
00:21:44.000And so it may not be that, for example, left wingers in Europe and in the United States want mass migration because they're so sympathetic to what third worlders are claiming.
00:21:53.000It may be that they actually want to bring people in because they themselves hate the civilization and believe that the civilization is bad.
00:21:58.000Are the revolutionaries, in other words, being driven by empathy or are they being driven by envy that is masquerading as empathy?
00:22:50.000Obviously, very, very difficult to convince someone out of what they believe is a moral virtue.
00:22:55.000A lot of people believe that empathy itself is a moral virtue.
00:22:59.000And as you say, not in a sort of moderate way, the more empathetic you are, the better a person you are.
00:23:03.000And so when you're confronting someone politically, when you're talking about politics and public policy, and you say, listen, the empathy that you're expressing right now is not.
00:23:10.000Is not actually ending up with good public policy that helps the greatest number of people.
00:23:15.000It's actually ending up with some pretty horrible results.
00:23:19.000You're speaking in a language that people don't actually believe.
00:23:21.000You mentioned deontological ethics versus consequentialist ethics.
00:23:25.000For a lot of people who speak in terms of empathy, they actually are speaking in the language of deontological ethics.
00:23:31.000They think that more empathy equals good.
00:23:33.000And so it's very hard to shake that by pointing to consequentialism.
00:23:36.000How do you argue people out of the idea that their empathy is some sort of absolute good?
00:23:43.000And depending on which side of the bed I wake up on, I'm either optimistic that it can be resolved or I'm pessimistic and it becomes an intractable problem.
00:23:51.000One of the things that I've become quite adept at doing is when I'm engaging an interlocutor, I gauge whether they are flippable or not.
00:24:00.000And if I think that the light of reason can enter them, I continue my engagement.
00:24:34.000A mass shooting at a mosque in San Diego, the Islamic center of San Diego, when two shooters who were openly Nazis, apparently, decided to shoot a bunch of people.
00:25:39.000People who obviously were, I would assume, radicalized online, because I don't think that in San Diego it's a hotbed of Nazi activity, traditionally speaking.
00:25:48.000My guess would be, and again, it's speculative, that these are people who found common cause in online communities.
00:25:53.000I'm sure we'll find this out with others who mimic Nazi cosplay.
00:25:57.000This is why the Nazi cosplay online is not a victimless issue.
00:26:02.000It turns out that when you emulate, Hitlerian nonsense and glorify it, crazy people might latch on to that and then go and do violence.
00:26:11.000Not a shock, it's a permission structure for violence.
00:26:14.000I mean, you're literally justifying one of the most violent movements ever to have existed on planet Earth.
00:26:20.000The head of the Islamic Center of San Diego, a person named Taha Hussain, said it's outrageous to target a place of worship, which of course is true.
00:26:27.000It is extremely outrageous to target a place of worship.
00:26:34.000Our Islamic Center is a place of worship.
00:26:37.000People come to the Islamic Center to pray, to celebrate, to learn.
00:26:45.000Not only Muslims, but we have people from all walks of life.
00:26:49.000Just this morning, earlier, a group of people, non Muslims, coming just to learn about our faith and our cultures.
00:27:00.000So, this is something that we have never expected.
00:27:06.000Okay, so I think the moral of the story Nazism bad, right?
00:27:09.000I mean, this is not a very difficult moral.
00:27:12.000Now, again, the media are trying to play all of this as quote unquote right wing violence, that these youngsters must have been some sort of right wing Republicans or something.
00:27:22.000We don't know yet what they politically identified as, except for the Nazi writings.
00:27:26.000But typically, this is what the media do.
00:27:28.000Whenever there is an act of white supremacism or Nazi violence, that means that it's right wing.
00:27:35.000Nazism as a movement was actually, in American terms, a left wing movement about centralized government and about racial supremacy and all the rest of it.
00:27:43.000And it turns out that today's Nazis are pretty wide spanning politically speaking.
00:27:47.000I mean, after all, you have a guy with a Nazi tattoo running for the Senate in Maine as a Democrat.
00:27:54.000You have all of the Nazi supporters of today, people who support Hamas, which is effectively identical to Nazism in its approach toward Jews, for example, and the collective.
00:28:05.000Fans of Hamas, one of them will be a Senate Democrat candidate in Michigan.
00:28:11.000So it turns out, again, Nazism is not a right wing phenomenon in that sense.
00:28:16.000And it turns out the right has actually been attempting to expel those who are Nazi adjacent.
00:28:22.000From the party, with some exceptions on the woke right, who have been trying to embrace many of those people.
00:28:27.000President Trump has obviously been trying to do all of that.
00:28:31.000Already coming up, it is a hotly fought primary involving Thomas Massey and a Trump endorsed candidate, because Trump, of course, wants Massey gone.
00:28:38.000Plus, a report from Brent Schur, our editor in chief on the ground in the district.
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00:31:58.000I think it should be an easy one, actually.
00:32:00.000Well, apparently it's not so easy, which brings us to Thomas Massey.
00:32:04.000He's the Kentucky congressman who is now in a political battle in his district.
00:32:08.000That battle really doesn't have to do very much with sort of his wild conspiracism or his associations with people with, um, Nazi sympathies, although both of those things are true.
00:32:18.000Right now, according to the Calci markets, and Calci, of course, is a sponsor, Massey is unlikely to win.
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00:33:31.000Republicans will give them as much of our money as possible and go to war for them whenever they ask.
00:33:34.000Israel will 100% control the GOP because every member will be scared to death of opposing them.
00:33:39.000Now, again, the reason why Massey is in hot water here has nothing to do with his stance with regard to Israel.
00:33:44.000It has everything to do with his stance with regard to conspiratorial nonsense about Jeffrey Epstein and the fact that he has voted against a wide variety of President Trump's priorities in Congress.
00:33:53.000He's sort of a Ron Paul figure who votes against large priorities of the Republican Party, which has ticked off President Trump pretty extraordinarily.
00:34:13.000This tactic is one of the dumbest tactics.
00:34:15.000I just have to say it's such an incredibly, it's a tactic made for stupid people.
00:34:19.000The reality is that people who are pro Israel do not like Thomas Massey because Thomas Massey has engaged in every conspiracy theory it is possible to engage in.
00:34:27.000And has made common cause with the most anti Israel people.
00:34:30.000But the reason that Thomas Massey is actually in trouble is because the Trump administration has decided to oppose him on the basis of completely other issues.
00:34:38.000And so the usual game that is now played right now on the right, in the very podcast to stand right, the game that is played is there will be a critique that has nothing to do with Israel.
00:34:47.000And the first thing you do is you claim that it's about Israel in an attempt to gin up the crazier part of the Republican base.
00:34:55.000Well, here's Thomas Massey doing precisely that.
00:34:59.000I'm walking to an airplane to rejoin the most expensive congressional race in U.S. history.
00:35:32.000The American Israel Public Affairs Committee, APAC, is all American Christians and Jews who fund it.
00:35:39.000It is illegal for the state of Israel to spend money in elections in the United States, just as it's illegal for China or Qatar to do the same thing.
00:35:53.000It is worth noting, as Dana Lash points out, that many of his biggest donations are coming from people who are pro Hamas.
00:36:01.000One of his top donors, according to Dana, is the Jordanian born Mahrook family, who just happen to be huge donors of pro Hamas Democrats.
00:36:07.000The Kiani family trust, led by Iranian born Joe Kiani, gave $100,000 to a Massey super PAC.
00:36:13.000Keane has long been active in supporting Democrats.
00:36:16.000He hosted President Biden in 2024 in his California home.
00:36:21.000And so Democrats are coming out to support Massey.
00:36:24.000He's about to be the beneficiary of Strange New Respect.
00:36:26.000Ro Khanna, who again is as left as it's possible to get, and who joined Thomas Massey in his conspiracy theorizing over Jeffrey Epstein.
00:36:34.000The idea from both Massey and Khanna is that President Trump has been engaged in this massive cover up of child sex trafficking because he himself was complicit.
00:36:42.000Again, that's something that Massey himself has said.
00:36:45.000He and Khanna joined forces in order to.
00:36:47.000Force into the public view unverified and unverifiable nonsense coming into the FBI, like tip calls that made no sense.
00:36:54.000Well, here's Ro Khanna putting up a tweet in support of Thomas Massey.
00:36:59.000I will just say if the far left is supporting a Republican candidate, there's usually a reason for that.
00:37:03.000Ro Khanna put out a tweet, quote, Thomas Massey is a man of character.
00:37:07.000He's the type of congressman our founders envision.
00:37:09.000I hope his constituents will see the courage, independence, and sincere love of country he brings to the job.
00:37:13.000He is also endorsed by the co founder of Code Pink, who is a nut job herself, Medea Benjamin.
00:37:56.000The strange new respect coming from all the same people MTG, Marjorie Taylor Greene, ousted from Congress for her own conspiratorial nonsense and uselessness.
00:38:05.000She also urged people to get out in Kentucky.
00:38:09.000And of course, Tucker Carlson put out a statement suggesting that Massey has refused to go along with the White House's abandonment of the America First principles that got the president elected.
00:38:18.000So again, the idea is that it's because he's an isolationist.
00:38:21.000But here's the thing Massey's been an isolationist his entire career.
00:38:23.000I mean, like a full scale isolationist.
00:38:25.000Like, cut all foreign aid to everyone, lower military spending, like wholesale.
00:38:30.000That is not the thing that has put him in trouble here.
00:38:33.000The thing that has put him in trouble is number one, that he decided to rant conspiratorially for legitimately a year and a half about the Epstein files, which he had no interest in until President Trump was reelected.
00:38:45.000And two, he decided to oppose every one of President Trump's major legislative proposals.
00:38:50.000And it's not me saying that, it is members of the administration saying that.
00:39:35.000I say that as somebody who's known Thomas well before I got into politics, but politics is politics, and when you always vote against the party, you can't expect the party to actually back you.
00:39:46.000Pete Hegg said the Secretary of Defense actually went to a Gal Ryan event, and he explained that Massey has been engaged in constant obstruction.
00:39:55.000Because after you've led men in life and death situations, the games that are played inside the beltway start looking pretty small.
00:40:03.000Now, contrast that with what we've gotten from Tom Massey.
00:40:08.000At some point, being against everything becomes an excuse for accomplishing nothing.
00:40:13.000At some point, constant obstruction is not leadership.
00:40:39.000And on the most important issue, on the most important vote, on the most important bill, on the most important day, Tom Massey sided with every House Democrat, every Senate Democrat, Hakeem Jeffries, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer against President Trump, against the American people, and against you and your family.
00:40:58.000When the time came to vote for President Trump's signature border security and immigration enforcement bill, the bill to provide record funding for ICE and border patrol and mass deportation, Tom Massey voted no.
00:41:48.000If you start being a conspiratorial anti Republican, it doesn't matter what else you believe, they will start granting you strange new respect.
00:41:54.000This is how Marjorie Taylor Greene, a person with not two neurons to rub together, somehow has become beloved of the left.
00:42:00.000Just say those same things over and over, and they will love you.
00:42:02.000Well, Massey started getting the strange new respect when he started mulling over Epstein.
00:42:08.000So here is Thomas Massey in November 2025 accusing President Trump of an Epstein cover up based on nothing.
00:42:17.000This might be a big smokescreen, these investigations, to open a bunch of them as a last ditch effort to prevent the release of the Epstein files.
00:42:26.000I mean, it is extraordinary to hear him demand an investigation and only mention Democrats, only mention his political opponents.
00:42:34.000But you're saying he doesn't really, he may not really even want any investigation.
00:43:19.000If it turns out the entire left is defending you, like the entire left, Without qualification, is defending you the hardest left, most crazy people.
00:43:26.000Probably you should not be in Congress representing the Republican Party.
00:43:30.000All right, coming up, Brent Sher will join us from the road.
00:43:33.000He's in the district and he will explain what's happening on the ground.
00:43:35.000Plus, that caller daddy lady, you know, there's that lady who does the podcast all about how she has sex with lots of people and everybody should.
00:43:41.000Well, now she's pregnant and happily married.
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00:45:11.000Well, joining us online is Brent Schur.
00:45:13.000Brent, of course, is editor in chief of the Daily Wire, and he's been spending time on the ground in this district.
00:45:44.000It went by for Trump by, I think, 35 or 40 points last election cycle in the presidential.
00:45:52.000And what we're seeing now is obviously it's Thomas Massey versus Ed Gallerine, but it's more of the whole Trump administration and Trump political machine versus Thomas Massey, who they're labeling an obstructionist and who has been, you know, just really one of the more difficult members to deal with in the House.
00:46:14.000And yeah, when we were there, we went to a Thomas Massey event in his hometown last night in Vanceburg, Kentucky.
00:46:23.000And it's a pretty big crowd, it's hundreds of people.
00:46:26.000And in a small district like this, in really, really small towns, that's actually a big turnout.
00:46:33.000We talked to some Massey voters yesterday who said the only way they're going to lose is because the other side cheats.
00:46:39.000And I was like, I thought it was the Democrats who cheat.
00:46:43.000And they just think, you know, anybody who's running against them, the only way that you could beat.
00:46:48.000This grassroots Thomas Massey podcast support is if you have mass cheating.
00:46:56.000So, meanwhile, on the Ed Galrine side of the aisle, it's really fascinating.
00:46:59.000It's like they're running two separate races.
00:47:01.000Galrine and the Trump administration are talking about Massey not voting in favor of their priorities.
00:47:06.000Maybe they'll bring up Massey and his sort of bizarre quest to make everything about Jeffrey Epstein along with Ro Khanna.
00:47:12.000But I'm wondering from the Ed Galrine perspective, it seems like very little Israel talk, but from the Massey perspective, nothing but Israel talk, it seems like.
00:47:21.000Yeah, I mean, according to Thomas Massey, he is running this campaign against Israel.
00:47:26.000And the only reason it's competitive is because Israel has, you know, dropped all this money against him.
00:47:33.000It's Jewish Americans who have dropped money against him because his policies are, you know, antithetical to anything a Jewish American would care about in this country.
00:47:43.000But the message from the Trump administration is this is the guy who's making it hard to pass the Trump agenda.
00:47:50.000We've been talking about this a lot, but Trump and Republicans only have a few seat majority in the House of Representatives.
00:47:57.000And when you have one member who they view as an attention seeker and somebody who's, you know, Makes a big deal out of opposing things that they need to do to pass through the House of Representatives.
00:48:10.000That's how they are framing Thomas Massey from the Trump campaign, from Pete Hegseth, who was there yesterday, from Stephen Miller, who posted a long video criticizing Thomas Massey last night.
00:48:22.000They are talking about him obstructing the Trump agenda that is popular with all Trump voters.
00:48:29.000And I mean, I think the most telling sign that Massey's in trouble.
00:48:34.000In Kentucky, is that even though he's running this race against Donald Trump, all of his ads are tying him to Donald Trump.
00:48:44.000He's not running ads to the mass public in the district talking about the Epstein files or his view on the Israel war.
00:48:52.000He's talking about how he supports Trump's agenda, and he's actually the real Trump supporter.
00:49:00.000You know, Donald Trump happens to be pretty good at winning these primary elections, and I just don't think it's going to work out for Thomas Masson.
00:49:10.000You know, Brent, that last point is the one that really is telling is that it is sort of fascinating how Massey is unwilling to go up directly against Trump, even though Trump is going directly up against Massey.
00:49:19.000The truth is that Massey has been attacking Trump incessantly for about the last year and a half.
00:49:23.000It started with the Epstein files of it, claiming that President Trump was hiding the Epstein files, was engaged in some sort of deep, dark conspiracy.
00:49:30.000And President Trump decided that he'd had enough of it, basically, and that he was going to go up against Massey.
00:49:46.000And so Massey has to come up with some sort of misdirect as to why it is that the guy whose leg he is humping doesn't want to be part of his campaign.
00:49:53.000In fact, he's actively campaigning against him.
00:49:56.000And the way that Massey has come up with a way to square that circle is by saying, actually, it's not even about Trump.
00:50:00.000It's not about Trump is not opposing me.
00:50:02.000Really, it's people manipulating Trump who are opposing me.
00:50:05.000Really, it's the nefarious Israelis who are manipulating President Trump, which is.
00:50:10.000A pretty astonishing way of doing a campaign.
00:50:12.000And we'll see if it works out for him.
00:50:14.000And I mean, I'll just say we drove through district yesterday and every Ed Gallerine sign has Donald Trump's name just about as big as El Gallerine on the street signs over there.
00:50:27.000And I'll just say the amount of ads that are on TV supporting Ed Gallerine, his name recognition has probably gone from zero to a lot in just a few months.
00:50:39.000And all the polling, it's hard to really assess.
00:50:45.000Because look, there has never been a competitive primary here.
00:50:49.000And there's definitely never been a competitive primary with dozens of millions of dollars dumped in.
00:50:55.000So, for anybody who thinks that they're going to know what this electorate looks like or can do a poll that is going to accurately assess who's going to turn out for this, they're lying to you.
00:51:06.000A lot of the polls have Thomas Massey losing by, you know, eight to 10 points.
00:51:12.000I've seen some having him down in the double digits.
00:51:15.000But again, it's going to be interesting because this is.
00:51:18.000New territory because of just how unique this primary challenge is.
00:51:24.000You know, Brent, one of the things that I think is fascinating about this is you pointed out that the TV ads, if you just watch the TV and you just looked at the internet, these are two completely different races.
00:51:33.000If you look at the TV, basically you have Gal Ryan saying, I'm Trump's guy, and Trump saying, Ed Gal Ryan is my guy, and Massey saying, no, no, no, no, I'm Trump's guy.
00:53:05.000We have a big story happening in Ohio today about our fraud, tons of stuff, our fraud investigation, tons of stuff that's been happening because of the reporting of the Daily Wire.
00:53:40.000Now, here's the thing there are not that many competitive districts up for election this time because of the redistricting, according to the New York Times.
00:53:49.000All 435 seats, of course, are up in November, but a fewer than a tenth of those races are likely to be competitive.
00:53:56.000Presidential candidates won about 28% of congressional districts with fewer than 10 percentage points in 2008.
00:54:05.000So, again, the number of competitive districts is going down very, very, very significantly.
00:54:11.000So, it is possible that even if Democrats outrun Republicans because of the redistricting, Republicans don't lose as many seats as they otherwise would.
00:54:19.000But obviously, affordability remains a major issue for Republicans.
00:54:25.000President Trump is trying to do things on affordability.
00:54:27.000One of those things is that he has been pushing the so called Trump RX website, which is a way of being able to find generic drugs at cost.
00:54:37.000He is doing that campaign across the aisle with Mark Cuban, who's been obviously extraordinarily critical of the president.
00:54:42.000Here was Cuban at the White House talking with Trump.
00:54:46.000I think, other than you, I've been the biggest proponent of TrumpRx.com.
00:54:51.000And the reason for that is Republicans want cheaper drugs, independents want cheaper drugs, Democrats want cheaper drugs.
00:54:58.000And together, I think we're going to do something special.
00:55:01.000What makes Cost Plus Drugs different is that when you click through Trump RX to our site, not only will you see a great price, but you'll see our actual cost and that we only mark it up 15%.
00:55:12.000And what makes this incredible, Mr. President, all the volume and all the people that are going to come from the site, as our volumes go up, our costs go down, which means we'll be ending up charging less to people over a period of time.
00:55:26.000Again, one of the things that's kind of phenomenal about President Trump is that for all the crap that he takes from people, he is willing to work with them if they are willing to work with him.
00:55:33.000Mark Cuban has been ripping him up and down.
00:55:35.000For years at this point, if Trump thinks he can get something done with Cuban, then he will.
00:55:40.000Now, Trump did make a joke about Cuban endorsing Kamala Harris.
00:55:46.000It's pretty remarkable seeing you and Mark Cuban up there and the fact that obviously Mark endorsed Kamala Harris back in 2021.
00:55:58.000Now, one of the ways, by the way, that you're going to be able to bring down prices overall is in fact AI because AI is going to make things more productive.
00:56:05.000Ken Griffin, who's been ripped up and down.
00:56:08.000By socialists like Zahra Manzani for the great crime of investing well.
00:56:12.000Well, he is pointing out that if you actually want to bring prices down, you have to increase productivity.
00:56:16.000And one great way to increase productivity is through AI efficiency.
00:56:20.000He's pointing out how good the AI is getting, and it really is.
00:56:25.000It has been really interesting to watch, to be blunt, work that we would usually do with people with masters and PhDs in finance over the course of weeks or months being done by AI agents over the course of hours or days.
00:56:43.000So these are not mid tier white collar jobs.
00:56:47.000These are like extraordinarily high skilled jobs being, I'm going to pick a word, being automated by a genic AI.
00:56:58.000And I got to tell you, I went home one Friday actually fairly depressed by this because you could just see how this was going to have such a dramatic impact on society.
00:57:14.000Right, but the dramatic impact on society is going to be that everyone is now going to be an expert in finance as opposed to just Ken Griffin.
00:57:20.000And that's going to mean that prices go down.
00:57:23.000It's going to mean that efficiencies go up.
00:57:25.000All right, meanwhile, on the cultural front, the big cultural story of the last week has been the announcement by a woman named Alex Cooper, who is most famous for a show called Call Her Daddy.
00:57:36.000That is where she has dumb political conversations with Kamala Harris, but also talks about promiscuity and how wonderful it is.
00:57:47.000It's her holding her belly and she's there with her husband.
00:57:50.000You know, this normally, if she were wearing, you know, an entire shirt and not just revealing her belly, this normally would have been a sort of conservative coded image.
00:57:59.000Whenever you see a woman, this is how far the left has moved.
00:58:01.000When you see a pregnant woman who is happy, this is now a conservative coded image.
00:58:04.000That's because the left has made a big deal out of the idea that pregnancy is not something to be happy about.
00:58:09.000It's generally something that inhibits your life in some serious way.
00:58:13.000Like if you were just to see this image without any context at all, you would assume.
00:58:16.000That this was actually some sort of patriarchal, terrible conservative image.
00:58:21.000A happy woman holding her pregnant stomach with her husband right there with his hand on her leg.
00:58:28.000Obviously, that must be some form of sexism.
00:58:30.000Now, what makes this all very rich is that Alex Cooper, of course, has spent her entire career promoting social liberalism totally at odds with the nature of these pictures.
00:58:39.000Because here's the thing if you want this image to be part of your life, if you're a woman and you would like this image to be part of your future, there is a way to do that.
00:58:47.000You get married, you get happily married, and then you get pregnant.
00:58:51.000I know those are two things that the left has decided are actually bad.
00:58:55.000Pregnancy is some sort of burden on a woman, and marriage is a patriarchal institution.
00:58:59.000But as per our usual rules, as per what Rob Henderson calls the luxury beliefs of the left, they hold beliefs that they don't actually behave in accordance with.
00:59:08.000And here is Alex Cooper talking about how you should have sex with people on the first date.
00:59:11.000If you want to not have that picture, a great way to do that is for women to have sex with dudes on the first date.
00:59:17.000And maybe I was just a little, you know, but I do believe I had it right on this one.
00:59:22.000When people on TikTok are saying, no kissing, no kissing on a first date, No, I completely disagree with you.
01:00:11.000And if you are making out with people or having sex with them on the first date, that is a very, very bad recipe, ladies, for getting married to those guys.
01:00:17.000Statistically speaking, that is not how it works.
01:00:21.000There's an old phrase that goes something like this Why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free?
01:00:26.000It sounds kind of cynical, but it also happens to be true on a generic level.
01:00:33.000And then she talks about having a body count and how that's how it's actually great to have a body count, meaning like sleep with lots of guys.
01:00:39.000Again, if your intended endpoint, right, if the photo that you want at the end of your romantic journey is you as a woman pregnant with your husband, these are terrible pieces of advice that she is giving you.
01:00:52.000It turns out that the best way to be married and pregnant is to not sleep with everyone in sight.
01:00:59.000That is a again, this is not me speculating, this is the statistical evidence.
01:01:04.000There's excellent social science data to back the point that I am making here.
01:01:07.000This has nothing to do with just my moral precepts, which again, I think are true.
01:01:11.000It has to do with practical, real world advice.