The Ben Shapiro Show - Mail Bomber Identified: A Crazy Person | Ep. 647

00:00:00.000 The authorities arrest the alleged mail bomber.

00:00:02.000 The media demonstrate they have no intention of abandoning their biases.

00:00:06.000 And we check the mailbag.

00:00:07.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:01:53.000 All right, so the latest breaking news is that the authorities have arrested the suspect in all of the attempted bombings of various Democrats and Democratic public figures.

00:02:02.000 I'm not going to say the name of the bomber because we have a policy on the show that we don't actually say the name of mass shooters.

00:02:07.000 I'm going to extend that to bombers as well, specifically because so many folks who are crazy actually like the publicity that is attached to the naming of bombers.

00:02:17.000 Now, we see those mass shooters.

00:02:18.000 This is also true of people who attempt to commit terror attacks.

00:02:21.000 One of their goals is to assure publicity for themselves and incentivizing people to do evil things because they want publicity is not something we're going to do.

00:02:29.000 I will give you the information about the guy, but I'm not going to give you his name.

00:02:32.000 So, the guy's 56 years old.

00:02:34.000 He's identified as a Native American Trump supporter. 1.00

00:02:37.000 Now, this is why it was so stupid for so many on the right to immediately leap to false flag. 0.99

00:02:43.000 And I don't mean asking questions. 0.99

00:02:45.000 I mean leaping to false flag.

00:02:47.000 You know, suggesting without any evidence that this must be a false flag attack, that this must be some sort of democratic operation. 0.94

00:02:53.000 The most obvious explanation for a person sending a bunch of bombs to highly public officials is that this is a crazy person. 0.97

00:02:59.000 And as it turns out, the person is indeed a crazy person.

00:03:03.000 Online records show that this guy has a criminal record, and he has owned companies called Native American Catering and Vending, as well as Proud Native America One Low Price Dry Cleaning.

00:03:12.000 He's a bodybuilder, and he is said to have been traced by DNA and phone records, and was flagged as a suspect after making previous terror threats to judges.

00:03:20.000 So presumably,

00:03:21.000 This is all President Trump's fault.

00:03:23.000 Photos have emerged of a van that links this guy to pro-Trump, anti-Hillary Clinton stickers.

00:03:28.000 Here's what the pictures look like.

00:03:30.000 For those who can't see, the van is plastered, plastered with pro-Trump material.

00:03:35.000 It's just a bizarre van.

00:03:36.000 Like if you saw this on the street, you would figure absolutely crazy person.

00:03:39.000 There's an inverse proportion between the number of bumper stickers on your car and your sanity. 0.98

00:03:44.000 The more bumper stickers on your car, the more clearly we can assume that you're a crazy person. 1.00

00:03:48.000 So that means that this guy is a complete nut job. 1.00

00:03:51.000 Obviously. 1.00

00:03:51.000 If you just saw his van, you would say the guy's a complete nutjob. 1.00

00:03:53.000 Like, you wouldn't have to know anything else about him. 0.90

00:03:56.000 And then it's also the craziest bumper sticker. 0.91

00:03:58.000 So it's not just CNN sucks at bumper stickers.

00:04:00.000 It's pictures of President Trump and Mike Pence. 0.98

00:04:02.000 It is Hillary Clinton with a target over her face. 0.97

00:04:05.000 It's the same thing with Van Jones with a target over his face.

00:04:07.000 It's the meme of President Trump riding a tank with explosions in the background.

00:04:12.000 There's a bumper sticker on here that says, which I don't even know what the hell that's supposed to mean.

00:04:19.000 I mean, I always could have figured that it would be a soccer supporter who is going to be responsible for something like this.

00:04:25.000 Shocker! 0.98

00:04:25.000 I can't believe that somebody with this van is 0.98

00:04:29.000 is sending bombs to people.

00:04:31.000 That's crazy.

00:04:32.000 Now, the media immediately jump exactly where you think they would jump, which is the guy isn't crazy.

00:04:37.000 He was a perfectly rational sane human being until President Trump came along.

00:04:40.000 Unfortunately for them, this has been lied by all available evidence.

00:04:43.000 So this person has been arrested some 10 times.

00:04:45.000 He was arrested back in 2002 for an attempted bombing threat.

00:04:51.000 Presumably, I guess that was President Trump's fault back when he was on The Apprentice or something.

00:04:54.000 Okay, but that's the take of the media today.

00:04:57.000 Law enforcement officials covered that white van.

00:04:59.000 It was covered in photos, as I say, of Donald Trump and Mike Pence, and had at least one sticker referring to Hillary Clinton.

00:05:05.000 Here is a little bit of tape from CBS News covering all of this.

00:05:08.000 The FBI covering the van, so all of that is just delightful.

00:05:11.000 They're covering up a van, it looks like, in the same location where an arrest was made, or at least there was a lot of activity.

00:05:17.000 And I wonder, you know what's interesting, guys?

00:05:20.000 And again, sorry Mel and sorry Anne-Marie.

00:05:21.000 Look at all that stuff in the windows.

00:05:23.000 Yes, I'm just noticing that the FBI, the picture that you're looking at right now is absolutely unbelievable.

00:05:30.000 What they're doing is they're covering up this van, which I caught a very brief glimpse of it, without 100% certainty, but I thought I saw a picture of Hillary Clinton in it.

00:05:39.000 The media are so excited.

00:05:41.000 I mean, listen to how the media are covering this.

00:05:42.000 Ooh, ooh, the van has pictures of Hillary and friendly pictures of Trump.

00:05:48.000 And you know what that means?

00:05:49.000 That means President Trump is responsible.

00:05:51.000 He deputized this man.

00:05:52.000 And that's what we're going to get.

00:05:53.000 We're going to get for now from here to the election. 0.99

00:05:55.000 We're going to get President Trump's rhetoric is what caused a crazy person to be crazy.

00:05:59.000 So let's just remember back one year ago, like a little bit over a year ago, a Bernie Sanders supporter went and legitimately shot, shot at dozens of Republican Congress people and nearly killed the House Majority Whip, Steve Scalise.

00:06:12.000 Shot him so badly he was in critical condition.

00:06:14.000 When he did, he arrived shouting that because the Republicans were killing people with their health care plan, that he was now going to kill Republican congresspeople. 0.87

00:06:22.000 Bernie Sanders had spent the prior month saying that the Republican health care plans was going to actually kill people.

00:06:27.000 This is something that Bernie Sanders said. 0.63

00:06:29.000 Was Bernie Sanders responsible for the crazy guy?

00:06:31.000 No! 0.78

00:06:32.000 Bernie Sanders was not responsible for the crazy guy.

00:06:35.000 Now, if you want to say, if somebody, let's say that a President Trump supporter went and just punched a protester, I would say, okay, a lot closer linkage between the rhetoric President Trump has used and that particular action.

00:06:45.000 Just as I say, there's a lot closer linkage between Maxine Waters saying, confront people in public places, and Democrats going and confronting people in public places.

00:06:54.000 Incitement to one activity is not necessarily incitement to sending bombs in the mail.

00:06:58.000 Or shooting people up on a congressional baseball field.

00:07:00.000 But the media have leapt to a particular conclusion.

00:07:03.000 Bernie Sanders in 2017 was completely innocent of what this guy did.

00:07:06.000 Agree.

00:07:07.000 And then they say, well, a crazy person, like an obvious crazy person, it is President Trump's responsibility what happened here. 1.00

00:07:14.000 And that is absolutely a bunch of crap. 1.00

00:07:16.000 And it's dangerous crap, too. 1.00

00:07:18.000 It is. 0.99

00:07:18.000 Because here's what the left says. 0.99

00:07:19.000 What the left says is the climate of polarization, the climate has gotten too nasty in this country.

00:07:24.000 It's just a bad, nasty climate of polarization that we have here in the United States.

00:07:29.000 And that's all President Trump's fault.

00:07:31.000 So maybe we ought to censor what people on the right are saying.

00:07:34.000 Maybe we ought to claim that people on the right are uniquely evil.

00:07:37.000 Do they understand that that claim actually radicalizes folks?

00:07:41.000 If they were two-sided about this, if they were objective about this, if what they said was, listen, everybody needs to tone down the rhetoric, Bernie Sanders needs to tone down the rhetoric, Democrats need to tone down the rhetoric, Republicans need to tone down the rhetoric, then at least they're consistent.

00:07:55.000 I've been saying that.

00:07:56.000 I've been saying that for literally years on this program.

00:07:58.000 I've been saying that.

00:07:59.000 But that's not what the media are saying.

00:08:00.000 What the media are saying is that every time a Democratic whack job does something, it's the fault of Democratic whack job.

00:08:07.000 Every time a Republican whack job does something, it's the fault of all Republicans across the country.

00:08:11.000 And that is going to drive people nuts, and it's going to make people less likely to tone down the rhetoric.

00:08:15.000 It's likely to make more people anti-media.

00:08:18.000 All of this talk about radicalizing people against the media.

00:08:20.000 The media don't need President Trump's help for that.

00:08:22.000 They do it pretty well themselves.

00:08:24.000 That doesn't mean that President Trump ought to be saying what he's saying.

00:08:26.000 It does mean that the Democrats in the media are absolutely radicalizing a population of people on the other side by claiming falsely that everyone on the other side is responsible for the actions of somebody who's clearly insane. 0.76

00:08:38.000 This stuff is really, really gross.

00:08:40.000 And the media were doing this in advance, right?

00:08:42.000 They were prepping this narrative for legitimately days in advance of the actual discovery. 1.00

00:08:47.000 We'll get to the Republicans and what they did wrong here, too, because President Trump's response to this was really, really idiotic. 0.98

00:08:54.000 Let me just show you some of the CNN chyrons that were preemptively attacking President Trump when they didn't even know who this guy was. 0.98

00:09:00.000 So, this was from yesterday.

00:09:02.000 And the host is standing in front of a screen that says, Manhunt for Serial Bomber.

00:09:07.000 And then it has profiles of the various people who had bombs sent to them.

00:09:09.000 Eric Holder, Maxine Waters, Robert De Niro, Joe Biden.

00:09:12.000 And then underneath, here's what the chyron says.

00:09:15.000 Manhunt for Serial Bomber Going After Trump's Targets. 0.72

00:09:19.000 The idea here is that President Trump somehow deputized this crazy person to send bombs in the mail.

00:09:25.000 That was President Trump's doing.

00:09:27.000 CNN was saying this openly.

00:09:28.000 They weren't trying to hide the ball here.

00:09:30.000 Here's another chyron.

00:09:32.000 There's a reporter on screen from the White House and it says underneath, CNN, Trump has no plans to claim any personal responsibility for inciting serial bomber.

00:09:40.000 Why would he have plans to claim personal responsibility for inciting a serial bomber?

00:09:45.000 Did Bernie Sanders claim that he had responsibility for inciting a serial shooter?

00:09:49.000 Is there, like, really?

00:09:51.000 Is there any evidence that President Trump incited this guy?

00:09:53.000 Did he send a piece of mail to this guy saying, you know, it'd be awesome?

00:09:55.000 Can you send some pipe bombs to Maxine Waters? 0.81

00:09:58.000 But this is exactly what CNN was claiming.

00:10:01.000 And you wonder why folks on the right don't trust the media.

00:10:03.000 This is why folks on the right don't trust the media.

00:10:06.000 It's just, it's absurd.

00:10:07.000 Here's Maxine Waters, a person who legitimately has said in the past few months that you should get in people's face in quasi-violent ways, in public places, on politics. 0.94

00:10:15.000 And now she's ripping into President Trump and saying he should take responsibility for an obviously crazy person. 0.95

00:10:20.000 By the way, this is why I objected to all the false flag garbage that so many on the right were spewing right out of the gate. 1.00

00:10:26.000 Because my feeling is that the obvious answer to this was it was a crazy person. 0.99

00:10:31.000 You know who sends bombs to people in the mail?

00:10:33.000 High profile people in the mail?

00:10:35.000 Bombs that don't work properly?

00:10:38.000 You know who does that? 0.99

00:10:39.000 Crazy people. 0.95

00:10:40.000 Yeah, but here's Maxine Waters blaming President Trump. 0.72

00:10:42.000 Maxine Waters, probably the most volatile and the most violent rhetoric using Democrat in the United States Congress.

00:10:50.000 Here she is blaming Trump for all of this.

00:10:52.000 I think the President of the United States has been dog-whistling to his constituency, making them believe that their problems are caused by those people over there.

00:11:03.000 And I think that they're acting out what they believe the President wants them to do and the way that he wants them to act.

00:11:11.000 Okay, that's crazy.

00:11:13.000 Okay, the idea that Trump wants people to send bombs in the mail is insane.

00:11:16.000 But that's totally what Maxine Waters would say. 0.90

00:11:19.000 You would expect her to say this.

00:11:19.000 And it's this sort of one-sided coverage that leads people not to trust the media.

00:11:23.000 Now, the media are not responsible for people sending bombs to them.

00:11:26.000 But the media are responsible for increasing a volatile climate.

00:11:29.000 You know, they blame President Trump for increasing the volatile climate.

00:11:32.000 I agree.

00:11:32.000 President Trump certainly has not tamped down the volatile climate.

00:11:35.000 But the media are part of that volatile climate, and they are making the climate more volatile, not less volatile.

00:11:41.000 And the fact that they are denying that demonstrates that they are completely out of touch with reality.

00:11:45.000 I have more on that, plus more information on the on the suspect, on the alleged bomber, in just one second.

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00:13:17.000 Okay, so new details on... I mean, this stuff is emerging minute by minute.

00:13:22.000 New details on the alleged bomber.

00:13:24.000 Again, we're not using his name on the program for reasons I specified a few minutes ago.

00:13:28.000 Apparently his Facebook and Twitter profile are filled with crazy conspiracy theories.

00:13:32.000 No!

00:13:33.000 I'm shocked!

00:13:34.000 Clearly, it's Trump's fault.

00:13:35.000 The Facebook account is almost exclusively pro-Trump content, including pictures and videos purportedly filmed at one of the president's political rallies.

00:13:42.000 The Twitter feed is littered with far-right conspiracy theories or violent threats aimed at some of President Trump's most outspoken critics.

00:13:48.000 He appears to have repeatedly tweeted about George Soros.

00:13:50.000 At one point, he purportedly wrote, you will vanish in a tweet aimed at the billionaire.

00:13:54.000 Soros is one of the people who received one of the bombs.

00:13:57.000 Other tweets falsely claimed that the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting was a false flag operation orchestrated by Soros and his liberal allies.

00:14:05.000 The account also posted frequently angry messages at Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

00:14:09.000 Her name was listed on the return account for all of the bombs.

00:14:12.000 Other prominent liberal activists, including David Hogg, who's a Parkland survivor, and Colin Kaepernick and Antifa, are targeted in other tweets.

00:14:19.000 Also, this person tweeted violent death threats and pictures of death at Sarah Zhang, who's a New York Times columnist who tweeted a bunch of racist anti-white stuff a while ago.

00:14:29.000 He also sent a gory image of a beheaded goat to comedian Jim Carrey. 0.99

00:14:32.000 So, in other words, this is an insane person. 0.99

00:14:35.000 This is a totally insane person. 0.99

00:14:37.000 And how do we know he's insane? 0.95

00:14:38.000 Well, besides the fact that his van is covered in bumper stickers like a crazy person, the Florida man has a significant criminal history and was previously charged with making a bomb threat in 2002.

00:14:48.000 The ruling in that case was not immediately clear on Friday.

00:14:50.000 He was also convicted of theft in 2014 and 2013 and battery in 2013.

00:14:54.000 In 2012, he filed for bankruptcy and declared in court filings he lived with his mother.

00:14:59.000 So yeah, clearly this is President Trump's fault.

00:15:02.000 Obviously, this is all President Trump. 0.97

00:15:04.000 His Twitter feed is gross. 1.00

00:15:05.000 He's a gross person. 1.00

00:15:07.000 I can't believe it. 0.99

00:15:08.000 Just a shock. 0.96

00:15:08.000 But again, the fact that he is nuts is not going to stop the Democrats from trotting out the lie that it's Republicans who caused all of this. 0.96

00:15:15.000 So Joy Behar is doing this routine too. 0.89

00:15:17.000 She did this preemptively.

00:15:18.000 She said that the entire GOP is to blame for a crazy person who lived with his mother and was arrested for bomb threats 16 years ago and then arrested a bunch of times in the past five years

00:15:29.000 Including many times before Trump was president.

00:15:31.000 The entire GOP is responsible for this.

00:15:34.000 And I think that it's incumbent upon the Republicans in this country to start to speak out.

00:15:39.000 They did not open their mouths when they, he attacked your father.

00:15:42.000 They did not open their mouths when he attacked a gold star family. 0.99

00:15:45.000 Or he said he was going to grab women by their genitals. 0.86

00:15:48.000 Or when he said the second amendment will take care of Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:15:51.000 They stayed silent and they are the perpetrators also.

00:15:55.000 Okay, what's amazing is that when Democrats are actually reminded of violent rhetoric used by Democrats in the past, then they get very, very angry.

00:16:01.000 And this is the part where the one-sidedness of the media is creating a more volatile political climate.

00:16:07.000 So, let's take, for example, Katie Tuer.

00:16:09.000 Katie Tuer over at MSNBC, obviously a member of the left.

00:16:12.000 And Katie Tour was reminded by a guest about some of the violent rhetoric used by Democrats in recent weeks.

00:16:17.000 She didn't like it.

00:16:18.000 She wasn't willing to talk about it.

00:16:19.000 Eric Erickson is the guy you'll hear talking about Democratic rhetoric.

00:16:22.000 But MSNBC will have none of it because obviously only one side of the political aisle is bad and volatile and uses overheated rhetoric. 1.00

00:16:30.000 Do we go back to the weather underground in 1960 or to McVeigh in the 1990s?

00:16:33.000 Have you ever heard a politician other than Donald Trump say, I'm so proud or give a kudos to another politician who body slammed a reporter?

00:16:43.000 Have you ever heard that from anybody else other than Donald Trump?

00:16:46.000 Well, and Katie, the response... Eric is going to answer this question.

00:16:50.000 Hold on, Donna.

00:16:51.000 Have you heard that from anyone else?

00:16:52.000 I think that Donald Trump is a symptom of what's going on in this country.

00:16:57.000 Your blood pressure going up over Donald Trump right now is a symptom of what's going on in this country.

00:17:00.000 My blood pressure is going up because he advocates violence.

00:17:03.000 Okay, the answer is no, it's terrible.

00:17:06.000 Right?

00:17:06.000 No, it's terrible when President Trump says that stuff.

00:17:08.000 Also, it is terrible when Democrats say that you should kick people, when they say that you should confront people in public places, when Bernie Sanders claims that Republicans are going to kill millions of people with their health care plan, when many, when a vast swath of the Democratic Party claim the Tea Partyers were actual terrorists.

00:17:23.000 To pretend that the volatile political climate in the United States is anything new is ridiculous, but this has been a long-standing Democratic tactic for legitimately decades.

00:17:30.000 I mean, after JFK was shot in 1963, Democrats tried to claim that it was right-wing rhetoric that had killed JFK, even though it turns out that it was a commie. 0.68

00:17:38.000 So there's nothing new under the sun, but it's increasingly frustrating, and this actually is dangerous for the country for two reasons. 0.79

00:17:45.000 Not just, and believe me, I'm going to get to what the Republicans had to say about this in just a second, including President Trump issuing an asinine tweet this morning, but

00:17:54.000 What is dangerous about the media's take on this is when they suggest that rhetoric that does not incite violence is responsible for violence, they're criminalizing rhetoric.

00:18:02.000 And when they do it for only one side, it appears that they only want to criminalize rhetoric on one side, which leads people to believe that they are coming for you.

00:18:10.000 It leads to a feeling of threat.

00:18:12.000 And to fail to acknowledge this is to fail to acknowledge what's driving a lot of our politics these days, which is a reactionary feel that the other side is threatening you.

00:18:20.000 And it's present on both sides.

00:18:21.000 Now, let's get to the right-wing response to all of this preemptively.

00:18:24.000 So, there are people on the right, I think most people on the right, who said, listen, we need to wait for more information here.

00:18:28.000 We don't know who did this. 0.82

00:18:30.000 The most likely outcome is crazy person.

00:18:32.000 I said this.

00:18:33.000 Repeatedly, I said if you think this is a false flag attack or you jump to the conclusion it's a false flag attack based on nothing but confirmation bias, you're doing it wrong.

00:18:41.000 I've been saying that repeatedly over and over on this show.

00:18:44.000 I've said it on Twitter.

00:18:46.000 I've said it in my columns.

00:18:47.000 Okay, so I think most people on the right sort of agreed with that, but there was a substantial substratum on the right that suggested that this had to be a Democrat.

00:18:56.000 It had to be somebody on the left who perpetrated this because obviously it was too convenient for Democrats in the run-up to the election.

00:19:02.000 This sort of conspiracy theorizing is not good either.

00:19:05.000 The reason that it is not good either is because it allows people to believe that there are no crazies on their own side, that evil is entirely relegated to people who disagree with them.

00:19:15.000 It leads to more polarization.

00:19:17.000 And again, it's not good for the country when you jump to conclusions based on your own confirmation bias.

00:19:23.000 And right now, there's tremendous incentive to do just that.

00:19:26.000 There's not incentive for people to say, let's wait for more information.

00:19:29.000 Let's wait for more information is one of the least popular sentences in American politics, and it's usually right. 1.00

00:19:34.000 It's almost always right.

00:19:36.000 But it's the least popular phrase because if you jump to a conclusion and that jump ends up being right, your side says, ha, that guy gets it.

00:19:42.000 You know how you know he gets it?

00:19:43.000 Because his gut was right.

00:19:44.000 He gets it.

00:19:45.000 And if you're wrong, your own side says, well, his gut was right.

00:19:48.000 It's just that the facts didn't fit his gut in this case, but he still knows what's what.

00:19:52.000 So jumping to conclusions is being incentivized on every side right now, and it's really bad.

00:19:57.000 It's particularly bad when the President of the United States does it.

00:19:59.000 So legitimately, legitimately, just a couple of hours before the FBI arrested this suspect, President Trump started tweeting about the bomb stuff this morning.

00:20:08.000 So he tweeted out about CNN,

00:20:23.000 He's right about that one.

00:20:25.000 President Trump is correct about that one.

00:20:27.000 When he says the media rip him, and they criticize him at will, and when he responds they say it's like September 11th or Oklahoma City, and he's creating that.

00:20:35.000 He's not wrong about that.

00:20:36.000 But here's where President Trump does go wrong.

00:20:38.000 So he can't just stop there.

00:20:39.000 At 7.19am he tweets out,

00:20:42.000 Republicans are doing so well in early voting and at the polls and now this quote unquote bomb stuff happens and the momentum greatly slows.

00:20:51.000 News not talking politics.

00:20:52.000 Very unfortunate what is going on.

00:20:54.000 Republicans go out and vote.

00:20:59.000 Mr. President. 1.00

00:21:02.000 This is stupid. 1.00

00:21:03.000 This is stupid, and this is immoral. 1.00

00:21:06.000 The problem with people sending bombs in the mail is not the impact on voting. 1.00

00:21:09.000 It's people sending bombs in the mail.

00:21:10.000 And the suggestion that this is all just a misdirect by the media when people send bombs in the mail to a bunch of prominent Democratic figures?

00:21:17.000 No, it is not.

00:21:18.000 And when you lend credence to conspiracy theories, all you are doing is fueling the flames of the volatility.

00:21:24.000 Okay, so basic bottom line of the show. 0.99

00:21:26.000 A lot of people suck right now. 1.00

00:21:28.000 Here's how you can not suck. 1.00

00:21:29.000 In just one second, I'm going to explain how you can not be one of the people who suck. 1.00

00:21:32.000 Okay, I'm going to explain in just one second. 0.95

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00:22:18.000 Let's do it! 0.99

00:22:45.000 Here's how you can not suck. 0.99

00:22:46.000 Okay, a few rules for not sucking at this. 0.99

00:22:48.000 One, when there's not enough information, instead of you touting out your speculation or your jump to conclusion, just wait.

00:22:54.000 Because within 48 hours, there will be enough information.

00:22:57.000 And then you can make a judgment.

00:22:58.000 Two, don't attribute crazy people to your political opponents.

00:23:02.000 Attribute to your political opponents what is attributable.

00:23:05.000 Do not attribute to them that which is not attributable.

00:23:07.000 So, if you want to attribute mobs going and shouting Ted Cruz out of restaurants to Maxine Waters, that seems reasonable to me.

00:23:13.000 If you want to accuse President Trump of incentivizing people to punch protesters, I think even that may be reasonable. 0.81

00:23:19.000 But, if you're going to claim that President Trump is responsible for mail bombs, and you're going to claim that Bernie Sanders is responsible for shootings on congressional baseball fields, that is not reasonable.

00:23:29.000 Fourth, if you are going to start attributing the heightened political rhetoric in this country to violence, if you're going to start saying violence is coming from that, then you're going to have to recognize that this sort of heightened political rhetoric exists on all sides.

00:23:43.000 Because if you don't, then you're lying.

00:23:45.000 You're being dishonest.

00:23:46.000 You are.

00:23:47.000 Now, I'm not saying that it's happening equally on all sides, but I am saying that it is happening on all sides and we all need to take it down a pitch.

00:23:54.000 Okay, President Trump's political rhetoric is a problem when he says that, I mean, I criticized him heavily last week on this show for praising Greg Gianforte for body slamming a reporter.

00:24:02.000 If you're gonna do that, you also have to point out when Democrats use violent rhetoric, which they have been doing more and more often.

00:24:08.000 Hillary Clinton said two weeks ago that civility against Republicans, civility with Republicans, was simply uncalled for at this time.

00:24:15.000 If we are going to talk about heightened political rhetoric, we have to talk about it in an accurate way.

00:24:20.000 We are not doing that, and the media are not doing that, and that's creating blowback against the media. 0.97

00:24:24.000 Okay, finally, here's how you can, here's how you can really not suck at all of this.

00:24:31.000 Start to think about whether the stuff that you say is more likely to raise the temperature or lower the temperature.

00:24:38.000 And if it is raising the temperature, maybe you should think about whether it's appropriate to raise the temperature.

00:24:42.000 Sometimes it is.

00:24:43.000 Sometimes it's not.

00:24:44.000 But this is a mistake.

00:24:46.000 Okay?

00:24:46.000 This is a mistake to simply raise the temperature at will and then be surprised when the temperature is raised.

00:24:58.000 I'm hoping that the country

00:25:00.000 Somehow comes back to its senses here.

00:25:02.000 But I fear that that's not going to happen.

00:25:03.000 I fear that the media are going to rip all Republicans for this sort of activity.

00:25:08.000 Republicans are going to simply claim false flag or simply going to blame Democrats for similar sort of activity.

00:25:13.000 And then we get a cycle that spins down into garbage from here until the end of time.

00:25:17.000 That doesn't have to happen.

00:25:19.000 That doesn't have to happen.

00:25:20.000 Crazy people do crazy things.

00:25:22.000 Separately, immoral rhetoric is immoral.

00:25:25.000 Thirdly, not all immoral rhetoric incentivizes violence.

00:25:29.000 And fourthly, maybe we should tone down the immoral rhetoric regardless as to whether it incentivizes violence.

00:25:33.000 If we do all those things, we can have a country.

00:25:36.000 If not, then we are in serious, serious trouble.

00:25:38.000 Now, speaking

00:25:39.000 We're good to go.

00:26:03.000 That is simply propaganda.

00:26:04.000 That is not news.

00:26:05.000 That is propaganda.

00:26:06.000 That is, these are victims.

00:26:07.000 These are people who are approaching the border, and this is President Trump's fault.

00:26:10.000 That's why NBC News does that. 0.99

00:26:13.000 The polarizing political environment did not begin with Trump.

00:26:15.000 It will not end with Trump.

00:26:16.000 It is going to continue from here till the end of time.

00:26:20.000 And then you see the rhetoric on the caravan issue, obviously being exaggerated on both sides.

00:26:26.000 So here was President Trump tweeting about the caravan issue yesterday.

00:26:30.000 And I'll explain what's wrong with this, because when I first read the tweet, I didn't really know what was wrong with it.

00:26:33.000 And then I looked into it a little more, and there's a problem with the tweet.

00:26:36.000 In sort of effect, it's correct, but in practice, it's wrong.

00:26:40.000 So President Trump tweeted out, to those in the caravan, turn around.

00:26:42.000 We're not letting people into the United States illegally.

00:26:44.000 Go back to your country, and if you want, apply for citizenship like millions of others are doing.

00:26:48.000 So people pointed out that the people who are trying to get to the southern border of the United States are applying for asylum.

00:26:53.000 You can't do that unless you're already in the United States or at the U.S.

00:26:56.000 border.

00:26:56.000 So you can't actually apply for political asylum from the country of origin.

00:27:01.000 However, President Trump's actual suggestion is that these people are not actually looking for political asylum.

00:27:06.000 Instead, they're looking for economic opportunity, which means that they would be fraudulently filing papers if they were seeking political asylum when they were really looking for economic opportunity.

00:27:14.000 So go home and apply the right way.

00:27:16.000 I don't think there's anything wrong with Trump saying, go home and apply the right way.

00:27:19.000 But if the idea is that it's illegal for them to approach the southern border and apply for asylum, that, of course, is not true either.

00:27:26.000 What is also not true is that the United States has an obligation to take in everyone who wants to cross the border no matter what, where they come from, or what their motivation is.

00:27:35.000 John Kasich is back.

00:27:36.000 I don't know why.

00:27:37.000 Oh God, no.

00:27:38.000 Please God, no.

00:27:39.000 Not John Kasich.

00:27:40.000 John Kasich, Ohio governor, he's back.

00:27:42.000 And he says that God, he's spoken to God.

00:27:45.000 Now, as a religious person who speaks with God three times a day, God doesn't talk back to me, but I talk to God fairly often, like a lot, okay?

00:27:52.000 But apparently God does talk to John Kasich.

00:27:56.000 And it's funny how the left will mock Mike Pence when he says that he has to pray on things in order to make a decision.

00:28:00.000 But when John Kasich is mouthing leftist platitudes in the name of God, then it's totally fine.

00:28:04.000 Here's John Kasich suggesting that God doesn't want us opposing the caravan.

00:28:09.000 And let's stop putting up walls around ourselves and not understanding the plight, the trouble, and the problems of others.

00:28:16.000 It is not right, and the Lord doesn't want it.

00:28:19.000 And our people, at their hearts, want to reach out to others.

00:28:23.000 Look at what they do in these storms.

00:28:25.000 They go and they rescue people they don't know.

00:28:27.000 They put them in their homes.

00:28:28.000 They feed them.

00:28:29.000 That's America. 0.99

00:28:30.000 Not all this garbage and this division and yelling and screaming and hatred on all sides. 0.96

00:28:36.000 Okay, well, it is also true that What Is America is maintaining a border, so there's that as well. 0.93

00:28:41.000 But even John Kasich, right, the guy who's going to bring us all together, can't stop himself from using this sort of overheated rhetoric.

00:28:47.000 It's a problem.

00:28:48.000 It's a problem.

00:28:49.000 Okay, so, meanwhile, speaking of overheated rhetoric, Megyn Kelly is going to be out at NBC. 1.00

00:28:54.000 She's out at NBC because they are basically fibbing about Megyn Kelly being a racist. 0.99

00:28:59.000 So, this was sort of predictable.

00:29:01.000 Megyn Kelly was not getting good ratings in mourning, and so they decided that they wanted to dump her, and then they found an excuse to dump her when she said on a mourning show that she didn't see what was wrong with people darkening their skin for Halloween costumes.

00:29:11.000 They accused her of being pro-blackface, as we've discussed over the last couple of days. 0.75

00:29:14.000 This was sheer, absolute nonsense.

00:29:16.000 It is just untrue.

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00:30:19.000 So folks are willing to polarize political rhetoric for even tiny gains right now on every issue.

00:30:26.000 And that's the real problem.

00:30:27.000 Folks are blaming President Trump for the bombing today, for the attempted bombings.

00:30:32.000 Tom Nichols is one of the people who is doing that.

00:30:34.000 So Tom Nichols has a whole Twitter thread.

00:30:36.000 He's an anti-Trump Republican.

00:30:38.000 Uh, and here's what he tweeted out, and then I'm going to explain why I think that this misses the point.

00:30:42.000 He says,

00:30:54.000 I've said many times that the lone wolf guys who pledge to ISIS or to white supremacy or to anti-abortion violence are kooks who aren't looking for a cause. 0.92

00:31:00.000 They have to go find the propaganda, and when they do, they mainline it.

00:31:03.000 The difference here is that really hateful stuff is coming in waves, not from foreigners or fringe groups, but from White House-sponsored rallies, from widely-cited internet sites that have zillions of followers, and from a four-hour window of hot crazy known as Fox in prime time, which is very convenient for Tom Nichols.

00:31:17.000 He says, no one in politics or wind-nut media made this guy send bombs, period.

00:31:20.000 What they did instead was superheat the political environment and flood crazy BS into the information space so regularly that unhinged guys like this think they're being patriots by sending bombs.

00:31:30.000 Okay, let's assume that's true.

00:31:31.000 Let's assume that when you heat up the political water that more frogs jump out of the pot.

00:31:36.000 Let's assume that that's the case.

00:31:38.000 Let's assume that.

00:31:40.000 Well, wouldn't the same hold true on the left when they overheat the political rhetoric? 0.87

00:31:43.000 When they say, for example, that Megyn Kelly is an absolute racist. 0.99

00:31:48.000 When they say that anybody who even mentions Halloween costumes is so racist that they cannot be employed.

00:31:54.000 And like Kirsten Powers has a piece today about how Megyn Kelly is a racist because she is white, which is Megyn Kelly said something really racist should not be a surprising sentence to anyone. 1.00

00:32:05.000 The original sin was that Kelly was hired by NBC at all.

00:32:09.000 Kelly had a long track record of racial demagoguery at Fox before she ever set foot at the NBC studios. 0.62

00:32:15.000 Now, again, is this heating up the political system?

00:32:18.000 I think it is.

00:32:19.000 How about this op-ed from George Yancey, a professor of philosophy at Emory University, which obviously needs a better philosophy department.

00:32:26.000 He has a piece today called, hashtag, I am sexist.

00:32:29.000 He says, it's time we men take responsibility for our role in the problem of violence against women.

00:32:34.000 He says that all men are guilty of violence against women.

00:32:38.000 He says, I've decided not to cut corners.

00:32:40.000 Join me with due diligence and civic duty and publicly proclaim I am sexist.

00:32:44.000 In fact, perhaps it is time we lay claim to a movement.

00:32:46.000 I am sexist.

00:32:47.000 Think about its national and international implications as we take responsibility for our sexism, our misogyny, our patriarchy.

00:32:53.000 It's hard to admit we are sexist.

00:32:55.000 I, for instance, would like to think that I possess genuine feminist bona fides, bona fides, but who am I kidding? 0.88

00:33:00.000 I'm a failed and broken feminist. 1.00

00:33:02.000 More pointedly, I am sexist. 0.88

00:33:04.000 There are times when I fear for the loss of my own entitlement as a male.

00:33:07.000 Toxic masculinity takes many forms.

00:33:09.000 All forms continue to hurt and to violate women.

00:33:12.000 For example, before I got married, I insisted my wife take my last name.

00:33:15.000 After all, she was to become my wife, so why not take my name and become part of me?

00:33:18.000 She refused.

00:33:19.000 She wanted to keep her own last name.

00:33:21.000 I was not happy, especially as she had her father's last name, which I argued contradicted her position against patriarchy.

00:33:26.000 But as she argued, this is my name and it is part of my identity, I became stubborn and interpreted her decision as evidence of a lack of full commitment to me.

00:33:33.000 Well, she brilliantly proposed that we both change our last names and take on a new name together, showing our commitment to each other.

00:33:39.000 Yeah, so obviously this guy is a real anti-feminist. 1.00

00:33:42.000 He says, if you are a woman reading this, I have failed you.

00:33:45.000 I mean, this is like a Maoist forced apology.

00:33:48.000 It sounds like a POW tape.

00:33:50.000 Through my silence and an uninterrogated collective misogyny, I have failed you.

00:33:54.000 I have helped and continue to help perpetuate sexism.

00:33:57.000 I know about how we hold on to forms of power that dehumanize you, only to elevate our sense of masculinity.

00:34:02.000 I recognize my silence as an act of violence.

00:34:05.000 For this, I sincerely apologize.

00:34:07.000 And really what he's doing is he's saying, I'm not a sexist because I'm apologizing for my sexism, but every other male is a sexist.

00:34:13.000 Is that superheating the rhetoric?

00:34:15.000 Is that polarizing our society?

00:34:17.000 Maybe just a little bit.

00:34:19.000 And let's point out the media's hypocrisy when it comes to these sorts of issues.

00:34:22.000 When it comes to these sorts of issues, every democratic male is considered a non-sexist in reality.

00:34:27.000 When it comes to the media, Megyn Kelly happens to be a person right of center. 0.86

00:34:33.000 Jimmy Kimmel is a person left of center.

00:34:35.000 Has anyone brought up the fact that if we're going to talk about blackface, Jimmy Kimmel in 2000 did an actual blackface routine on national television on Comedy Central.

00:34:43.000 This is Jimmy Kimmel in blackface, not only

00:34:46.000 Mocking black people. 0.98

00:34:48.000 He's mocking Karl Malone specifically. 0.98

00:34:49.000 Mocking Karl Malone for not being able to speak English properly.

00:34:53.000 This is a lot closer to insulting black people than Megyn Kelly saying, I don't mind if someone dresses up and darkens their skin as Diana Ross to honor Diana Ross. 1.00

00:35:00.000 Okay, Jimmy Kimmel somehow has a show on ABC. 0.90

00:35:02.000 No problem.

00:35:03.000 Here's Jimmy Kimmel circa 2000.

00:35:08.000 Sometime at night, come along, look up in sky and say, what the hell going on up there?

00:35:14.000 Do UFO live on other planet? 0.95

00:35:16.000 Falling in hole like E.T.?

00:35:19.000 Come along, read on TV about white people getting deducted by alien. 1.00

00:35:22.000 Sticking all kind of hell up they butt. 1.00

00:35:24.000 And that's a damn thing. 1.00

00:35:26.000 Listen up E.T., you better stay the hell back. 1.00

00:35:30.000 Nah, no, nah, no.

00:35:47.000 The polarizing environment predated President Trump.

00:35:50.000 It will go far beyond President Trump because that is the nature of the politics that we have chosen.

00:35:55.000 And it's the nature of a politics that the left continues to push to its most radical extreme.

00:35:59.000 There's an opinion piece in today's New York Times that is fully anti-science.

00:36:02.000 It is completely crazy.

00:36:04.000 And yet this is now being touted as not only mainstream, but if you don't believe it, then you are apparently a bigot.

00:36:09.000 And the piece is by Dr. Fausto Sterling, a professor of biology and gender studies.

00:36:13.000 So a professor of something useful and a professor of something completely useless.

00:36:17.000 The piece is called Why Sex Is Not Binary.

00:36:19.000 The complexity is more than cultural, it's biological too.

00:36:23.000 So what does Dr. Fausto-Sterling say?

00:36:26.000 Dr. Fausto-Sterling points out that there are genetic sexual disorders that make people intersex, for example.

00:36:32.000 And she therefore suggests that because there are intersex people, there is not sexual dimorphism in human biology.

00:36:38.000 This is crazy talk. 0.58

00:36:40.000 Okay, it's just crazy talk. 0.99

00:36:42.000 She cites a bunch of ridiculous, honestly, ridiculous references. 0.92

00:36:46.000 Like this is my favorite, just because I happen to know something about this. 0.93

00:36:49.000 She talks about Jewish thought.

00:36:50.000 She says, So supposedly this means that it was a third gender?

00:37:05.000 No, you don't.

00:37:06.000 Okay, as someone who actually knows this stuff, I will tell you exactly what the Jewish law was doing. 0.98

00:37:10.000 The Jewish law was saying, this person has two separate sets of genitals.

00:37:15.000 We don't know whether they're a male or a female.

00:37:17.000 Therefore, we are going to be as strict as possible in every circumstance.

00:37:20.000 So we will treat them as female for purposes of forbidding them from temple service, but we will treat them as male for purposes of forbidding them from shaving. 0.99

00:37:27.000 In other words, we don't know, but that doesn't mean male and female don't exist.

00:37:29.000 The case being made in the pages of the New York Times,

00:37:32.000 And I asked my wife about this because she's a doctor, guys.

00:37:35.000 And that means, and so I asked her like, is there any, like, what does this even mean?

00:37:38.000 She says, no, this is a person trying to cast genetic disorders.

00:37:43.000 We're good to go.

00:38:05.000 Yes, it does.

00:38:07.000 Yes, it does.

00:38:08.000 And yet that's exactly where we are.

00:38:09.000 That's exactly where we are.

00:38:10.000 Okay, let's get to the mailbag because this has been a very tiring week and maybe some people in the mailbag can cheer me up.

00:38:15.000 So let's check it out.

00:38:16.000 All right, let's start with Jesse.

00:38:18.000 Jesse says, Dear Ben, I read Brave New World last year and found it to be hilarious.

00:38:22.000 What are your thoughts on it?

00:38:23.000 And what are some other books that point out the flaws in leftist ideology you would recommend?

00:38:27.000 Well, Brave New World is actually a very

00:38:30.000 I think so.

00:38:48.000 They're emotionally manipulated to be happy, and then there are these group of primitives who sort of live out in the middle of nowhere as people used to.

00:38:54.000 The question of Brave New World really is whether the Brave New World is good or whether it's bad.

00:38:57.000 It's pretty obvious that it's bad for people who live in Western civilization, which means you have to ask yourself why.

00:39:02.000 As far as other books along those lines, obviously the works of George Orwell are along these lines.

00:39:05.000 Animal Farm in 1984.

00:39:07.000 There's a precursor to 1984.

00:39:10.000 It's a Russian novel, and I'm forgetting the name of it.

00:39:12.000 It's also very good.

00:39:15.000 There's a bunch of fiction, science fiction, that's sort of along the lines of Brave New World, post-apocalyptic fiction, obviously there's some of this.

00:39:23.000 Actually, a book I recommended this week, Submission, is sort of along these lines, a parodic take on what is happening in Europe.

00:39:29.000 I mean, the undercover story of the year is that the European Human Rights Commission ruled today, they ruled today, that it is proper to fine someone for speaking against the Prophet Muhammad.

00:39:40.000 Huge fan of the show.

00:39:42.000 Of course I'm going to be a strict parent. 0.95

00:39:43.000 I'm not an idiot. 0.81

00:39:54.000 You think that I'm going to let my kids date whoever they want? 1.00

00:39:56.000 Kids are stupid. 1.00

00:39:57.000 Why would I possibly do that? 1.00

00:39:58.000 First of all, my kids don't get to date until they are of marriageable age, because I am not in favor of dating just for fun.

00:40:04.000 I think that that is a temptation to sin, and I think that it is a... Like, I don't think that you get anything out of it when you're 16 years old.

00:40:12.000 They can date when they're ready to get married, because dating is supposed to be for marriage. 0.99

00:40:15.000 It's not supposed to be for heavy petting, or going riding in the car, or any of that stupidity. 0.99

00:40:22.000 Okay, Spencer says, Well, I mean, you'd have to... Buber is the closest to an actual Jewish philosopher. 0.99

00:40:30.000 I don't know the work of Levinas that well, so I'm going to leave him out.

00:40:33.000 Hannah Arendt is not particularly a Jewish philosopher.

00:40:35.000 She's more of a philosopher who happened to be Jewish.

00:40:38.000 Her connection to Judaism is pretty strained.

00:40:39.000 Martin Buber...

00:40:42.000 He says that religion is basically a conversation between the divine and man.

00:40:49.000 I like a lot of that.

00:40:50.000 I don't like his anti-Zionism very much.

00:40:53.000 There are a lot of candidates out there.

00:40:58.000 I would be surprised if Rand Paul doesn't try to make another run.

00:41:01.000 I would be surprised if Nikki Haley doesn't try to make a run in 2024. 1.00

00:41:05.000 I'd be surprised if Mike Pence doesn't try to make a run in 2024.

00:41:07.000 There are a bunch of Republicans out there who probably would.

00:41:15.000 Well, I think that most people on the left are sincere, but I don't know that they've really thought through their own arguments, which is why I spend a lot of my time, when I talk to folks on the left, trying to get people on the left to recognize the consequences of their own arguments.

00:41:32.000 What do they actually believe at root?

00:41:34.000 And as far as antisemitism on the left, I've suggested that there are really three main types of antisemitism in the world right now.

00:41:40.000 There's kind of the alt-right antisemitism, which is old style racial and religious antisemitism. 0.96

00:41:46.000 Jews are inferior or bad or corrupt or greedy or communists because they killed Jesus and all of this kind of stuff. 1.00

00:41:53.000 That's type number one. 1.00

00:41:54.000 And that's pretty terrible and old school. 0.88

00:41:57.000 Type number two is Muslim antisemitism, radical Muslim antisemitism, which sort of conflates religious antisemitism with ethnic antisemitism. 0.69

00:42:05.000 And you see that throughout the world where hate crimes against Jews are rising in Europe as the radical Islamic population of Europe rises.

00:42:11.000 And the third type of antisemitism is leftist antisemitism, where antisemitism arises for two reasons.

00:42:17.000 One, the secular left doesn't like religion very much.

00:42:20.000 And two, the secular left very often believes that basic

00:42:26.000 Distribution of resources that is not even means that the person who is more prosperous somehow victimized the person who is less prosperous.

00:42:32.000 Jews happen to be more prosperous.

00:42:34.000 They tend to achieve highly in intellectual areas.

00:42:37.000 The state of Israel is a wealthy state.

00:42:39.000 And so folks look at them and they say, well, they must have gotten wealthy by screwing somebody else. 0.87

00:42:44.000 And therefore, they are the bad guys in this particular situation.

00:42:46.000 Also, the state of Israel is a nationalistic institution.

00:42:49.000 The left does not like nationalism.

00:42:50.000 They think that internationalism and globalism is a better way of life.

00:42:54.000 I disagree.

00:42:55.000 Well, there are a couple who are just fantastic.

00:43:02.000 So, The Joker is great, but only because The Joker is just sheer chaos.

00:43:06.000 Lex Luthor is fantastic because Lex Luthor, at least in the modern iteration, under sort of Geoff Johns,

00:43:12.000 Lex Luthor is taken as a character who is firmly convinced that we cannot give power to any one person or anyone being, because if we do, that person could use the power against us, which is actually the correct premise.

00:43:25.000 It's actually Batman's premise.

00:43:27.000 Batman sort of uses the same premise a lot in Batman vs. Superman in the comics.

00:43:30.000 That's really what Batman is saying.

00:43:32.000 He's saying we can't allow anybody to have this sort of power if they are going to

00:43:37.000 You know, be judging us from above.

00:43:38.000 That's why you have to believe that the only reason Superman is allowed to exist in this world, in comic book world, is because he is truth justice in the American way.

00:43:45.000 Were he not, he would be a supervillain.

00:43:48.000 I don't think so.

00:44:10.000 Big fan.

00:44:10.000 Well, you know, honestly, I don't think it's about condescension.

00:44:13.000 I think that it's more about you have to look at the actual biology of a growing human child.

00:44:38.000 And this isn't really about my moral system is better than your moral system.

00:44:41.000 It's really about morality forbids the killing of human beings.

00:44:44.000 This is a human being.

00:44:45.000 That's what science says.

00:44:46.000 You don't have to be condescending about that, but I'm not sure in what context this would really come up.

00:44:52.000 I know this.

00:44:53.000 When I first met my wife,

00:44:54.000 She seemed to be a lot more pro-choice, and then as she learned more about the biology, she became more, she's probably more pro-life than I am at this point.

00:45:01.000 So biology tends to be the great leveler when it comes to this particular issue.

00:45:05.000 Okay, final question.

00:45:05.000 Sam says, hey Ben, my intellectual hero, love everything you're doing.

00:45:08.000 Question and joke.

00:45:09.000 When scientists find life anywhere, cells, bacteria, on other planets or moons, and we all celebrate the greatest achievement in human history, we'll have to be consistent in their hypocrisy and declare cells not a life, but in the other breath, say, they are the party of science and recognize cells are life, making a new definition of what's life once more. 0.99

00:45:24.000 This is stupid and exhausting. 0.99

00:45:25.000 Love the show. 1.00

00:45:25.000 Well, yeah, I mean, this is an argument that I've made. 1.00

00:45:26.000 I made it on Fox News when I did my Sunday special.

00:45:28.000 You know, this argument that life does not exist in single-celled organisms, as long as they're human, but they exist everywhere else, that obviously is logically untenable in every conceivable way.

00:45:41.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I like and then some things that I hate.

00:45:45.000 So,

00:45:46.000 Thing I like today.

00:45:47.000 So I decided to do some cartoons end of the week, not only because cartoons have bombs in them, but also because cartoons are hilarious and joyous and fun.

00:45:55.000 And I think we've lost a lot of those things.

00:45:56.000 So here is a little bit of one of the great classical music cartoons of all time.

00:46:02.000 This is Bugs Bunny not being a transgender bunny. 1.00

00:46:05.000 But pretending to be female for purposes of deceiving Elmer Fudd.

00:46:10.000 Bugs Bunny was not actually a female bunny in a male bunny's body.

00:46:13.000 Here's Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd in What's... What's Opera, Doc?

00:46:28.000 Yes, I know it.

00:46:31.000 I can't help it.

00:46:34.000 Oh, Mona Hilda, be my love!

00:46:48.000 Be kind, my love, a longing burns deep.

00:46:59.000 It's so good.

00:47:00.000 Okay, so just go watch it.

00:47:02.000 The animation in these cartoons is really first rate.

00:47:05.000 And my favorite part of it is the Wagnerian horse.

00:47:08.000 The giant fat horse.

00:47:10.000 It's just great.

00:47:10.000 And Elmer Fudd wearing the Viking helmet and the whole thing.

00:47:13.000 It's just, it's terrific stuff.

00:47:14.000 So, yes, kids can watch this and it's really funny stuff.

00:47:19.000 Okay, go check it out.

00:47:20.000 Time for, enough of the joy, let's go back to hatred.

00:47:23.000 Time for some things that I hate.

00:47:28.000 So, Kurt Schilling was the hero of the 2004 Red Sox World Series team.

00:47:33.000 The New York Yankees had a 3-0 lead in the American League Championship Series, and the Red Sox came back from a 3-0 deficit.

00:47:43.000 I remember, I was in Boston at the time.

00:47:44.000 It was unbelievable.

00:47:46.000 And the Red Sox came back from a 3-0 deficit for the first time in baseball history, and they won the series.

00:47:51.000 In Game 6, Curt Schilling, he'd been injured in I believe Game 3, Game 2 or Game 3.

00:47:55.000 He'd been injured in his ankle.

00:47:58.000 And they didn't know if he'd be able to pitch again because his velocity just dropped.

00:48:02.000 He had torn a tendon in his ankle.

00:48:04.000 They invented a surgery where they stapled the tendon in his ankle down.

00:48:08.000 And then he went and he pitched Game 6 of the World Series.

00:48:12.000 And he was gutting through actual bleeding.

00:48:15.000 He started bleeding through his sock as he was pitching.

00:48:17.000 So he was the hero of the Red Sox championship season in 2004.

00:48:22.000 Well, now the Red Sox are in the World Series again.

00:48:24.000 And in the first game, they had a bunch of members of the 2004 Red Sox team throw out the first pitch together.

00:48:30.000 It was a lot of the key members.

00:48:32.000 Kurt Schilling was not invited.

00:48:34.000 Kurt Schilling was not invited because Kurt Schilling is right wing and the leadership team at the Red Sox is left wing.

00:48:38.000 He was the biggest star on that team.

00:48:40.000 He was the reason they went to the World Series.

00:48:42.000 He's the reason they won the World Series.

00:48:44.000 But here was Kurt Schilling talking about that yesterday.

00:48:48.000 Well, again, they didn't.

00:48:50.000 This is politics, unfortunately.

00:48:52.000 You know, we talk sports.

00:48:53.000 That's the name of the show, and that's what we do.

00:48:55.000 And we're going to keep talking sports, but the fact of the matter is, politics has crept in, starting in a very significant way with Colin Kaepernick, and it's just continued.

00:49:03.000 And that's not going to change, but that's not who we are or what we do.

00:49:06.000 And the fact of the matter is, I said last night,

00:49:09.000 I sleep pretty good at night.

00:49:10.000 I know who I am, I know what I am, and my rings are still there, and my trophies are still on the shelf.

00:49:15.000 It's all good.

00:49:15.000 Okay, so, you know, that obviously is ridiculous, but that is the length to which polarization has gone.

00:49:21.000 Curt Schilling, forget about his political views.

00:49:23.000 The guy was the hero of the 2014, not invited to the World Series.

00:49:26.000 Just great stuff. 1.00

00:49:27.000 Okay, other stupidity, final stupidity for the day, and then we'll leave for the week, because I gotta take a break, man. 0.99

00:49:32.000 Mathematicians, this is according to Real Clear Investigations, mathematicians who want tenure at UCLA have to do more than show a facility with numbers. 0.99

00:49:39.000 They have to pledge in writing a commitment to diversity, equity, and inclusivity.

00:49:44.000 All professors applying for tenure-track positions at UCLA must write a statement on their commitment to diversity, showing, for example, their record of success advising women and minority graduate students, according to the UCLA Office of Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion.

00:49:57.000 This reflects a push by college bureaucrats to ratchet up requirements to achieve a more diverse campus.

00:50:03.000 This is so insane.

00:50:04.000 So instead of the burden of proof being on somebody to show that somebody's racist, instead, the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that you are not racist by signing a forced statement under penalty of lack of tenure, showing that you are committed to diversity.

00:50:17.000 Now, not diversity in thought, obviously, diversity in ethnicity.

00:50:20.000 Now, what's weird about that for science and math departments is presumably you want to recruit the best candidates regardless of race.

00:50:25.000 And you know who is most affected by all of the affirmative action programs at top universities?

00:50:30.000 Not white folks, Asian folks. 1.00

00:50:32.000 There's an entire lawsuit against Harvard University about that right now.

00:50:35.000 But these universities have decided that ideology matters a hell of a lot more than actual efficacy of these departments.

00:50:41.000 And that is not a call for lack of diversity.

00:50:43.000 It's a call for a meritocracy, which matters a lot when you are talking particularly about merit-driven fields like math and science.

00:50:51.000 But I guess that we're not going to do that anymore.

00:50:53.000 We're instead going to force people to sign ridiculous Stalinist statements about leftist priorities before we allow them to teach math at a major university.

00:51:01.000 Solid job, universities.

00:51:02.000 Good job, guys.

00:51:03.000 Okay, well, we'll be back here next week.

00:51:05.000 We'll see how crazy things are then.

00:51:08.000 Have a safe weekend.

00:51:10.000 I believe I'm supposed to be on Meet the Press on CBS on Sunday.

00:51:14.000 Is it Meet the Press?

00:51:14.000 Which is the one?

00:51:15.000 Yeah, I believe it's Meet the Press.

00:51:16.000 So I will get the information out.

00:51:20.000 And I will let you know.

00:51:21.000 I'll tweet out all of that on NBC.

00:51:24.000 It's NBC's Meet the Press.

00:51:25.000 I will be on that on Sunday, is the plan.

00:51:27.000 So make sure to check that out.

00:51:29.000 And we'll see you here next Monday.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - October 26, 2018

Mail Bomber Identified: A Crazy Person | Ep. 647

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