The Ben Shapiro Show - Matt Walsh DESTROYS The DEI Industry

00:00:00.000 Republicans or Nazis, you cannot separate yourselves from the bad white people. 0.98

00:00:06.000 Growing up in the 90s, I never thought much about race. 0.95

00:00:09.000 Sure, you noticed, but it never really seemed to matter that much.

00:00:12.000 At least not to me.

00:00:13.000 Being a white, straight, cisgender man, it's the top of the pile. 1.00

00:00:16.000 I'm on the top of the pile.

00:00:17.000 That's me.

00:00:17.000 Am I racist?

00:00:19.000 I would really appreciate it if you left.

00:00:21.000 I'm trying to learn.

00:00:21.000 I'm on this journey.

00:00:22.000 Can you please leave?

00:00:24.000 I'm going to sort this out.

00:00:25.000 I need to go deeper undercover.

00:00:27.000 If I want to be an ally, I need to look like one.

00:00:35.000 What is racism?

00:00:37.000 Martin Luther King said not to judge people by their... Martin Luther King said a lot of stuff.

00:00:41.000 Is America inherently racist?

00:00:43.000 What the hell is that?

00:00:44.000 The word inherent is challenging there. 0.99

00:00:46.000 America is racist to its bones. 0.95

00:00:48.000 All of the... So inherently? 0.98

00:00:49.000 Yeah.

00:00:50.000 The entire system has to burn.

00:00:52.000 And I'm not gonna even use save this country.

00:00:53.000 This country is not worth saving. 0.99

00:00:55.000 This country is a piece of s***. 0.99

00:00:58.000 Oh, sorry. 1.00

00:01:02.000 Sorry.

00:01:03.000 Joining us now is Matt, certified DEI expert.

00:01:07.000 Here's my certification.

00:01:08.000 Where are you guys on your anti-racist journeys?

00:01:12.000 So look around the room and point to who we believe is the most racist person in the room.

00:01:18.000 We want to rename the George Washington Monument to the George Floyd Monument.

00:01:21.000 Would you mind signing it?

00:01:22.000 You will?

00:01:24.000 What do you think about this issue of heteronormativity and how it intersects with the broader structures of racism in society?

00:01:32.000 What's up with white people? 0.93

00:01:35.000 What are you doing to de-center your whiteness? 0.98

00:01:38.000 Who's making the de-center?

00:01:39.000 Why are they doing that?

00:01:39.000 What you're doing is you're stretching Out of your whiteness, there's more for you in this field.

00:01:46.000 White. 0.81

00:01:46.000 Folks. 0.81

00:01:47.000 White. 1.00

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00:01:47.000 White supremacy. 1.00

00:01:48.000 White woman. 1.00

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00:01:49.000 White. 0.91

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00:01:50.000 White. 0.81

00:01:50.000 Centering. 0.81

00:01:51.000 White. 0.81

00:01:51.000 Silence. 0.81

00:01:51.000 Is there a black person around here? 0.81

00:01:53.000 There's a black person right here.

00:01:54.000 Does he not exist?

00:01:56.000 Hi, Robin.

00:02:00.000 Hi.

00:02:02.000 And what's your name?

00:02:03.000 I'm Matt.

00:02:03.000 Matt.

00:02:04.000 Hi, Matt.

00:02:04.000 Thanks for the intro.

00:02:05.000 You guys had to ask who you are because you have to be careful.

00:02:12.000 In theaters now.

00:02:13.000 Rated PG-13.

00:02:14.000 Rated PG-13. Buy tickets now.

00:02:21.000 Well folks, Matt Walsh's new movie is out and it is already causing seismic waves throughout

00:02:27.000 the DEI community.

00:02:28.000 We'll get to the biggest story concerning that in one moment.

00:02:32.000 First, Tuesday night's debate made it clear that legacy media will do literally anything to bury the truth, including just openly side with Kamala Harris.

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00:03:02.000 Okay, so Matt Walsh's movie is now in theaters, and apparently there are members

00:03:07.000 of the movie theater employee community who are attempting to stop people

00:03:12.000 from actually seeing the film.

00:03:14.000 Matt has been tweeting out all morning, threads from Reddit, essentially suggesting

00:03:18.000 that people are going to get in the way of actually allowing people to see the film.

00:03:23.000 Apparently one movie theater employee put out a post saying, I will be making the transaction

00:03:27.000 as difficult as possible for anyone seeing the Matt Walsh movie.

00:03:30.000 Another person said, can you take the good seats out of service without anyone noticing? 0.98

00:03:33.000 Only sell the creatures that crawl out of the mud to see this thing, the crap seats. 0.92

00:03:37.000 So the left doing its best to prevent people from seeing the film, even at the lowest levels, 0.98

00:03:42.000 but it is not stopping the fallout.

00:03:44.000 So, one of the funniest scenes in the film, Am I Racist?, is a scene in which Matt sits down with Robin DiAngelo, and it is hysterical.

00:03:53.000 So, Robin DiAngelo is the author of an incredibly big-selling book called White Fragility.

00:03:59.000 So, in 2020, during Black Lives Matter summer, Robin DiAngelo became a thing. 0.59

00:04:04.000 Her book sold like hotcakes.

00:04:05.000 It was at the top of the New York Times bestseller list for weeks at a time.

00:04:09.000 It sold hundreds of thousands, if not millions of copies, and it is complete and utter tripe. 1.00

00:04:13.000 It is an awful piece of trash. 0.98

00:04:15.000 In fact, I did about a 40-minute takedown of it on YouTube. 0.99

00:04:18.000 You can go check that out right now. 0.96

00:04:20.000 I go point by point through her entire trash book. 0.97

00:04:23.000 It makes no sense. 0.99

00:04:25.000 It is self-defeating.

00:04:26.000 The entire book It is logically incoherent and it happens to be also particularly ugly because the basic idea is that if you are white then you are inherently sinful and there's no way to escape that sin except for doing the things that Robin D'Angelo wants you to do politically speaking.

00:04:45.000 So there's a scene in the film where Matt somehow and his producers got Robin D'Angelo to sit down with Matt and the premise of Am I Racist is that Matt is effectively a very woke DEI guy.

00:04:58.000 And he falls into the philosophy of D.E.

00:05:00.000 Idem and chases it all the way down the rabbit hole.

00:05:03.000 So he actually inhabits that character.

00:05:04.000 It's kind of like a Nathan Fielder movie.

00:05:06.000 He...

00:05:07.000 inhabits that idea and becomes the DEI guy as he follows it all the way down the rabbit hole.

00:05:13.000 So in this particular scene, I don't want to give it away because it's one of the best scenes in the film, he's sitting with Robin DiAngelo, and let's just say that he manipulates her into doing something so insane on camera that it should be career-ending.

00:05:26.000 And she knows it, which is presumably why she has now basically deactivated her Twitter account.

00:05:32.000 Now, Robin DiAngelo has released a statement Slamming Matt Walsh.

00:05:36.000 She vowed in a statement not to watch the film.

00:05:38.000 Here's what she said, quote, back in 2023, I was contacted by a group who claimed to be making

00:05:42.000 a documentary film called Shades of Justice about efforts to address racism in the United States.

00:05:47.000 They plan to interview anti-racist activists, authors, and thought leaders in service of supporting

00:05:51.000 the cause of racial equality.

00:05:52.000 They offered me between 10 and $20,000 for an interview.

00:05:55.000 I said, let's meet in the middle with $15,000 and agreed to participate.

00:05:58.000 I've since donated that sum to the NAACP Legal Defense Fund.

00:06:01.000 Well, I'm sure that she donated that sum after she found out that she was in the film and realized, oh boy, this is going to be bad.

00:06:07.000 So first of all, Kind of weird that she only agreed to be in the film for $15,000.

00:06:12.000 Except for the fact that, as Matt's movie exposes, this whole thing is a giant grift. 0.85

00:06:17.000 Robin DiAngelo has been picking up checks from some of the biggest corporations in America for years to go there and teach absolute horse crap to people.

00:06:26.000 And in exchange, she receives the money and the credibility, and then she takes those credentials, hey, I taught at Google, and she moves on to Apple, and then she goes and picks up a big sack of cash from Apple.

00:06:35.000 So, she took $15,000 to sit down for the documentary Shades of Justice, an anti-racist documentary.

00:06:43.000 When I arrived for the interview, says Robin DiAngelo, a few things felt off.

00:06:45.000 The grips would not make eye contact with me.

00:06:47.000 The interviewer, who's introduced as Matt, appeared to be wearing an ill-fitting wig.

00:06:52.000 So, number one, I like that she puts Matt in quotation marks.

00:06:56.000 That's his name.

00:06:58.000 I know him.

00:06:58.000 We're friendly.

00:06:59.000 We're somewhat acquainted.

00:07:01.000 A person who introduced himself as Matt.

00:07:02.000 Well, he didn't introduce himself as Jane.

00:07:05.000 Matt presented himself as someone new to anti-racist work.

00:07:09.000 Also true.

00:07:09.000 And seemed earnest, and his questions did not come across as adversarial.

00:07:12.000 By the end, however, things got weird.

00:07:14.000 See, that's the whole point.

00:07:16.000 Is that when doing something like what Matt did, the whole point of it is, what do these people say to each other behind closed doors?

00:07:21.000 And you can't do that if you come in adversarial.

00:07:23.000 So he asked her questions and she couldn't tell what was going on.

00:07:27.000 The whole point of Amiracist is to find out what the DEI consultants are saying behind closed doors.

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00:08:39.000 Matt asked what I thought, says Robin DiAngelo, about reparations for Black Americans.

00:08:43.000 I said I agreed with reparations, but that it was not my area of expertise.

00:08:46.000 He then pulled up a chair and invited a Black crew member, who went by Ben, to sit with us, took out his wallet, and handed Ben some cash.

00:08:52.000 He said that if I believed in reparations, I should also give Ben cash.

00:08:55.000 While some black people have asked white people to engage in reparations by giving directly to individuals, reparations are generally understood as a systemic approach to past and current injustice.

00:09:03.000 The way Matt set this up felt intended to put Ben and I on the spot.

00:09:07.000 Well, there's a problem with this particular statement.

00:09:09.000 Ben happens to be a producer on the film. 1.00

00:09:13.000 So, it didn't put Ben and you on the spot, it put you on the spot because you're a hypocrite. 0.95

00:09:18.000 Because Matt was pushing this on us, I expressed my discomfort and checked in with Ben to make sure he was okay with receiving cash in this way. 0.97

00:09:24.000 Ben reassured me that he was, so I went into my wallet and handed him my cash and the interview ended.

00:09:28.000 I was so unsettled by the way Matt manipulated this last scene, I emailed the contact person, who went by the name of Lee Hampton, to explain that this scene was not an example of reparations and could mislead viewers.

00:09:36.000 I asked they not use it in the film and shared several resources overviewing legitimate systemic efforts for reparations.

00:09:41.000 He assured me, says Robin DiAngelo, that he understood, and that they had not yet decided whether to address reparations.

00:09:46.000 He never again contacted me or answered an email.

00:09:49.000 After reviewing the sequence of events and discussing it with colleagues, I realized they had lied about their agenda, and I had been played.

00:09:56.000 I spread the word on my networks.

00:09:58.000 Unfortunately, last month, I started receiving hateful and misogynistic emails.

00:10:01.000 Some referenced The Daily Wire and Shapiro's website, which announced the film is indeed being released.

00:10:05.000 It is not titled Shades of Justice, nor is it meant to support the anti-racist cause.

00:10:10.000 Well, yeah, because you won't speak to anybody who doesn't.

00:10:12.000 It is a Borat-style mockumentary titled, Am I Racist?, and designed to humiliate and discredit anti-racist educators and activists.

00:10:20.000 Yes, that's accurate.

00:10:22.000 That's true.

00:10:23.000 Their deception was carefully planned and well-funded.

00:10:26.000 The website they sent me was fake, as were their identities, the project title used in the legal waiver, the description of the project, and the last name they gave for Matt.

00:10:32.000 The interviewer was, in fact, Matt Walsh, a far-right provocateur backed by Shapiro and Delaware Plus, and yes, wearing a wig.

00:10:39.000 The co-CEO of The Daily Wire, says Robin DiAngelo, has stated, quote, I can't think of a more appropriate film for The Daily Wire's first original theatrical release than Am I Racist?

00:10:46.000 What Has a Woman Changed in the National Conversation on Radical Gender Theory, effectively killing the issue, and DEI is the next pillar of the woke mind virus that's about to topple. 1.00

00:10:54.000 DEI culture is one of the most toxic plagues in American life.

00:10:57.000 Am I racist, says Robin DiAngelo, is not only about me, and I was not the only one who fell for their deception.

00:11:01.000 Sadly, many of those being mocked are women. 1.00

00:11:08.000 No!

00:11:09.000 No!

00:11:11.000 Never mock a woman of color.

00:11:13.000 Never!

00:11:13.000 There's never any reason.

00:11:15.000 Because in Robyn D'Angelo's world, they are sainted.

00:11:18.000 By the way, some of the people who are mocked in the movie include people like Saira Rao.

00:11:22.000 Legitimately one of the worst voices in American public discourse.

00:11:26.000 I have not seen the film, nor do I plan to watch it, says Robin DiAngelo.

00:11:29.000 So I don't know what they've used in my interview or how they've edited it.

00:11:31.000 But if you see the clips or the full film, consider the source.

00:11:34.000 Matt Walsh.

00:11:35.000 So, who is Matt Walsh?

00:11:37.000 And what is his and his backer's agenda?

00:11:39.000 Luckily, he has answered that question, without shame, time and again.

00:11:42.000 Then she quotes the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:11:45.000 Says, Shapiro and Walsh's previous film, Lady Ballers, is filled with misogyny, racism, and transphobia.

00:11:50.000 Shapiro also sponsored a film denigrating George Floyd.

00:11:54.000 Wait, you mean that we said that maybe George Floyd wasn't killed by Derek Chauvin, that maybe he died of a drug overdose that was induced by high stress?

00:12:05.000 Wait, you mean like the medical evidence?

00:12:07.000 Or maybe we pointed out that George Floyd, in fact, led a pretty checkered criminal life?

00:12:12.000 No, no, no!

00:12:14.000 This experience, says Robyn D'Angelo, has reinforced for me how critically important it is to do in-depth background research before making yourself vulnerable to people you don't know or believing in sharing what you see online.

00:12:23.000 They will not prevail in their efforts to stop the work for racial justice.

00:12:26.000 Well, it seems like we prevailed a little since you deactivated your Twitter account.

00:12:29.000 So there is that.

00:12:30.000 Little awkward for you.

00:12:33.000 Well, it's hilarious about all of this.

00:12:35.000 And Matt tweeted this out.

00:12:37.000 He said, Robyn D'Angelo has issued a statement denouncing our film.

00:12:39.000 She claims the movie is designed to humiliate and discredit anti-racist educators and activists.

00:12:43.000 She couldn't be more correct in that assessment.

00:12:45.000 Thank you, Robyn!

00:12:47.000 My favorite part of this wonderful statement is that she says she noticed my ill-fitting wig when we first sat down with me, and yet, for some reason, she still did the interview.

00:12:53.000 Maybe it was the $15,000.

00:12:54.000 Maybe?

00:12:55.000 Because of the giant grift?

00:12:57.000 Many on the left are criticizing the tactics we used to make our film.

00:12:59.000 Notice how they make no such criticisms about Borat.

00:13:02.000 methods of deception.

00:13:04.000 You mean in a mockumentary in which you expose people?

00:13:06.000 So Matt tweeted, quote, many on the left are criticizing the tactics

00:13:10.000 we use to make our film.

00:13:11.000 Notice how they make no such criticisms about Borat.

00:13:14.000 The difference is that Borat was meant to embarrass normal working class Americans.

00:13:17.000 Our film embarrasses DEI grifters, academics, and upper class liberals.

00:13:21.000 Even Nathan Fielder, who I think is hilarious and brilliant, usually uses these kinds of methods to humiliate average people who haven't done anything to deserve the humiliation.

00:13:29.000 The left is fine with that, too.

00:13:30.000 With our new film and our last film, we're actually punching up, but somehow we're the unethical ones.

00:13:34.000 Interesting.

00:13:35.000 Of course, that is exactly, exactly right.

00:13:37.000 So, Matt's film already doing damage.

00:13:39.000 Hilariously enough, the film is going to be released.

00:13:42.000 It's already in something like 1,500 theaters across the country.

00:13:46.000 It is not reviewed a single time at Rotten Tomatoes.

00:13:49.000 Zero reviews.

00:13:50.000 None.

00:13:50.000 In fact, if you go to the Rotten Tomatoes page, brought to you by Fandango, they have a sort of scrolling wheel here that says new and now in theaters.

00:14:01.000 And it lists literally every movie except for Matt's movie.

00:14:06.000 Like Matt's movie's just not there.

00:14:08.000 It's in 1500 theaters.

00:14:09.000 If you go to this little scrolling wheel here on Rotten Tomatoes, it ain't there.

00:14:14.000 You would not know.

00:14:15.000 In fact, even if you go down to their new theater releases, it just doesn't appear.

00:14:21.000 Shocker.

00:14:22.000 So they're gonna try to ignore this the same way they tried to ignore what is a woman. 1.00

00:14:25.000 Don't let them ignore it.

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00:15:45.000 Okay, meanwhile, Kamala Harris continues to run the emptiest campaign in modern American history.

00:15:50.000 Now, you've been seeing a lot of headlines about how Kamala Harris is building a lead.

00:15:54.000 She's really, really building a lead.

00:15:55.000 Okay, there is only one problem with this particular narrative, which is that the polls basically, so far, are the same as they were before this particular debate.

00:16:04.000 So before the debate, Kamala Harris was leading by about a point and a half in the RealClearPolitics polling average, and today she's leading by about one and a half in the RealClearPolitics polling average.

00:16:13.000 In fact, the last two polls that have come out, that at least are taken partially after the debate, are the Reuters-Ipsos poll that shows Harris up 5, and the Morning Consult poll that shows Harris up 5.

00:16:22.000 There's only one problem with that, which is that if you go back a little bit further, what you see is that the last Morning Consult poll, Harris was up 3 or 4, and in the last Reuters-Ipsos poll, Harris was up four.

00:16:36.000 So in other words, there's been like a slight uptick for Harris, but nothing like this kind of blowout.

00:16:41.000 She's jumping ahead, surging.

00:16:43.000 The race is utterly changed.

00:16:45.000 In fact, according to CNN's Harry Enten, she actually is still underperforming with younger voters even after the debate, which is kind of shocking.

00:16:52.000 So this is the Democrat versus Trump margin among voters age 18 to 29 or under the age of 30.

00:16:57.000 You go back four years ago at this point.

00:16:59.000 Look, Joe Biden had a 28-point advantage.

00:17:02.000 A 28-point advantage over Donald Trump.

00:17:04.000 Now, you look when Joe Biden dropped out of the race, he was up by just seven points.

00:17:08.000 Now, Kamala Harris has improved on Joe Biden's standing, but look at this.

00:17:13.000 She's only up by 15 points.

00:17:15.000 That is significantly less than Joe Biden was up at this point among the youngest voters in our electorate.

00:17:23.000 So, again, these are not amazing numbers.

00:17:26.000 Here's the thing.

00:17:27.000 People widely perceive that Kamala Harris won the debate, but it didn't change anybody's opinion.

00:17:30.000 This is what I was saying yesterday on the show, is that she established that she doesn't always have to be incoherent if she kind of knows what's coming and if she's never thrown off her game by either the moderators or by her opponent.

00:17:41.000 However, nobody has actually changed their opinion about Kamala Harris as a candidate.

00:17:46.000 Everybody already knows what they think of Trump.

00:17:48.000 But that means that this thing is going to come down to extremely slim margins in all of the swing states, as I said yesterday.

00:17:53.000 In fact, the Wall Street Journal interviewed a bunch of undecided voters about who won the Trump-Harris debate.

00:17:59.000 And what they basically found is that the debate did not shake their previously held motions about Trump and Harris and where they stand on the issues like the economy, immigration, or conflict overseas.

00:18:09.000 So for example, Sabrina Champ, age 47, who lives in Arizona.

00:18:13.000 In 2020, she wrote in Bernie Sanders.

00:18:15.000 In 2024, she's leaning Trump. 0.96

00:18:17.000 She says nobody won the debate.

00:18:18.000 She said she baited him, he fell for it, that was disappointing.

00:18:21.000 But as far as Kamala is concerned, I didn't see a lot of policy.

00:18:24.000 Or for example, Jessica Maldet, age 40, from Pennsylvania.

00:18:29.000 She voted for Biden in 2020.

00:18:31.000 2024, she's undecided.

00:18:35.000 She said that while she believes that Harris won the debate, she says that she's found herself more drawn to Republicans this election cycle and thinks Trump would be stronger than Harris on some of her priorities, including the need to show strong support for Israel.

00:18:49.000 She said that she didn't know what to do when Trump started talking about eating dogs, but it didn't change her fundamental opinion of how exactly this is going to work.

00:18:55.000 Or Kevin Walsh.

00:18:57.000 Who is a self-described Democrat from Pennsylvania.

00:19:00.000 He voted for Trump in 2020.

00:19:01.000 He's gonna vote again for Trump.

00:19:03.000 He says, I don't think Trump did very well.

00:19:04.000 I expected more out of him, but she didn't give me any information I didn't already have.

00:19:07.000 It was frustrating to me as a voter.

00:19:11.000 Again, I think that the basic idea here is that if Kamala Harris wishes to win this race, at some point, she's gonna actually have to draw a distinction between herself and Joe Biden, which is something that she is pretty clearly not willing to do.

00:19:23.000 The big distinction between her and Joe Biden is that she is not personally an old 80-year-old white man.

00:19:29.000 That is the big distinction.

00:19:30.000 That's literally all she can do to distinguish herself.

00:19:32.000 Because on ideology, she refuses to actually create gaps with the current Biden White House.

00:19:37.000 Because if she did, she'd have to revert back to her positions from 2019-2020. 0.95

00:19:40.000 It's perfectly obvious when you hear the Harris campaign talk about this.

00:19:45.000 For example, yesterday, Harris co-chair Mitch Landrieu He said that she helped Joe Biden do all of the things.

00:19:54.000 So she's tied at the hip to Joe Biden.

00:19:56.000 She was in the room.

00:19:57.000 She made the decisions.

00:19:59.000 How exactly does she draw to the distinction with an incredibly unpopular president?

00:20:04.000 I think Joe Biden's going to go down in history as being one of the most consequential presidents in the history of America.

00:20:09.000 And she was his vice president, and she helped him do all the things that were done in the Biden time that she was there.

00:20:15.000 And I think that she's proud of that.

00:20:16.000 But nobody should be unclear of the fact that she is our own person.

00:20:19.000 That is the point that she was trying to make to Donald Trump.

00:20:24.000 Okay, well, she can say she's her own person, but what about her makes her her own person if she is just a fresh coat of paint on the crappy old jalopy the Democrats have been trotting out for several election cycles at this point, pretending it's a brand new Lamborghini?

00:20:38.000 This is the problem.

00:20:40.000 And so, she's just gonna campaign on vibes. 1.00

00:20:41.000 It's just gonna be vibes all the way on in, which is why, again, it is up to Donald Trump to define her.

00:20:45.000 He needs to define her.

00:20:46.000 There is no choice but to define her.

00:20:49.000 It's all vibes, all the way down.

00:20:50.000 Representative James Clyburn, Democrat from South Carolina.

00:20:54.000 He says the thing about Kamala is that people love Kamala.

00:20:56.000 They just love her.

00:20:57.000 What about her?

00:20:58.000 Well, her. 0.77

00:20:58.000 You know, like her. 0.77

00:20:59.000 Her vibes.

00:21:02.000 Progressives love her.

00:21:04.000 Conservatives respect her.

00:21:06.000 She is a consensual, uh, consensual, uh, American.

00:21:13.000 Meanwhile, Kamala Harris on the campaign trail, she has nothing to say about policy at all. 1.00

00:21:20.000 She just keeps sounding exactly like Kodos from The Simpsons when Kodos takes over a body in Treehouse of Horror and decides to run for president.

00:21:29.000 Twirling, twirling toward the future.

00:21:32.000 Twirling and twirling.

00:21:34.000 Here we go.

00:21:36.000 We will move forward.

00:21:38.000 We will move forward because ours is a fight for the future and it is a fight for freedom!

00:21:49.000 Freedom!

00:21:50.000 Just like when she was a baby.

00:21:51.000 Freedom.

00:21:51.000 Like the fundamental freedom of a woman to make decisions about her own body and not have her government tell her what to do!

00:22:01.000 Okay, um, so forward to the future as opposed to forward to the past, or laterally, or perhaps diagonally.

00:22:11.000 Meanwhile, they're trotting out Tim Walz, who looks like he got into Hunter's cocaine stash.

00:22:16.000 And he is, uh, he's really rocking it on the campaign trail.

00:22:20.000 Thank you, Grand Rapids!

00:22:23.000 He's clapping like a nut.

00:22:25.000 And then, oh my god, what is up with... Why is he, like, a terrible actor in a musical?

00:22:30.000 And he's gonna do jazz hands now?

00:22:33.000 There are the jazz hands, there we go.

00:22:35.000 He's like, who's he waving to?

00:22:36.000 Now he's, like, looking up at the sky and pointing to everybody.

00:22:39.000 What in the world is going on with that guy? 0.98

00:22:41.000 He's such a weirdo! 0.91

00:22:42.000 I'm sorry, he's a weird guy. 0.73

00:22:44.000 He's just a weird dude.

00:22:46.000 But that's what it is, it's weirdness and vibes and beta male energy. 1.00

00:22:49.000 And also, of course, shouting that Donald Trump supporters are the scum of the earth. 0.99

00:22:53.000 MSNBC's Joy Reid, yesterday, she had on Eli Mistal, who, of course, despises Republicans. 0.99

00:22:59.000 And they both suggested that the problem in America is not just Trump, of course, who is the fond head of all evil, it is all of his supporters who are similarly evil. 0.95

00:23:08.000 Everything he does is despicable. 0.98

00:23:09.000 The reason why it doesn't end his career is because his supporters are just as despicable. 0.96

00:23:15.000 All right? 0.99

00:23:16.000 Like, Trump's whole thing—he's a narcissist, right?

00:23:18.000 And so his whole thing is to have a complete lack of compassion and empathy for everybody else.

00:23:24.000 It's all about him.

00:23:25.000 That's why he lies about 9-11.

00:23:27.000 It's all about him, him, him, me, me, me.

00:23:29.000 He's probably the least compassionate president we've had in 200 years since Andrew Jackson.

00:23:34.000 And it works for him because his supporters are just as ungenerous and have just as little compassion and empathy for others.

00:23:42.000 So when he is seen out there, essentially, as you guys have put it, desecrating our national symbols, when he is seen out there putting himself above all else, his supporters also want that to be the case.

00:23:55.000 They want to do that in their own lives.

00:23:57.000 That's how they think of themselves.

00:23:59.000 Yeah, and they also, he hates the people they hate.

00:24:04.000 These are just wonderful folks.

00:24:06.000 See, you want to desecrate national symbols.

00:24:07.000 I love that they sit there after the BLM summer of tearing down statues and talk about desecrating national symbols.

00:24:12.000 It's always very amusing.

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00:25:23.000 So, it's a vibes election for Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:25:25.000 The problem, of course, is that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden are tied at the hip and their policies continue to suck, on like every possible level. 0.98

00:25:32.000 So, for example, Afghanistan, complete disaster. 0.99

00:25:35.000 One of the great frustrations of watching the debate earlier this week was watching as Donald Trump failed to take advantage of opportunities provided for him on a silver platter.

00:25:42.000 Kamala Harris literally said in that debate she had no regerts, no regerts whatsoever with regard to Afghanistan, none.

00:25:48.000 That is the biggest opening in world history.

00:25:51.000 Donald Trump should have charged through that thing like an angry bull.

00:25:55.000 He should have said, listen, Vice President, you said you have no regrets?

00:25:59.000 How about like the 13 regrets?

00:26:00.000 You know, like the 13 dead American soldiers.

00:26:02.000 I went to their gravesites.

00:26:03.000 You dinged me for going to their gravesites while ignoring their families.

00:26:06.000 How about the 19 million women? 1.00

00:26:07.000 You say you're for women's rights. 0.94

00:26:08.000 You say that you actually care.

00:26:10.000 You're super, super compassionate, super empathetic.

00:26:12.000 You care so much about girls and women all over the world.

00:26:15.000 You were perfectly willing to let 19 million women get stuffed into burqas in the basement, forcibly married to men 20 years their elder, and kept away from every aspect of education and beaten if they don't comply. 1.00

00:26:26.000 You were perfectly willing to do that for your own glorification.

00:26:29.000 Don't lecture me about empathy and compassion.

00:26:33.000 And he would have been totally right.

00:26:34.000 Here's NATO's Jens Stoltenberg, who is the head of NATO, saying that post-NATO Afghanistan is a complete disaster area.

00:26:42.000 Of course it is!

00:26:44.000 Of course it is!

00:26:45.000 Why isn't this like the number one issue in the election?

00:26:47.000 It should be.

00:26:48.000 It's the most humiliating moment in American foreign policy of my lifetime, by far.

00:26:53.000 We can safely say that it's gone 360 back to Taliban 1.0. 0.97

00:26:58.000 I mean, that is a catastrophe, in fact.

00:27:01.000 Extremely bad, and a catastrophe not least for the people of Afghanistan, in particular women. 1.00

00:27:07.000 And I met many women, members of parliament, journalists who begged us to stay.

00:27:14.000 And for many years I promised that we will stay.

00:27:17.000 We were going to leave on a conditions-based approach.

00:27:21.000 So we were only going to leave when we had the confidence that the African government was able to take over and secure the country.

00:27:30.000 Meanwhile, Kamala Harris continues to lie about the economic program of President Trump. 0.90

00:27:35.000 She said again in her rally yesterday that Goldman Sachs had analyzed their various plans and come up with the idea that her plan would make the economy boom and his economy would crater.

00:27:42.000 Well, Goldman Sachs' CEO last night was like, no, that's not true.

00:27:45.000 We never said that.

00:27:48.000 That report, which was mentioned last night in the debate, came from an independent analyst.

00:27:52.000 And it's interesting, Scott.

00:27:54.000 I think a lot more has been made of this than should be.

00:27:57.000 What the report did is it looked at a handful of policy issues that have been put out by both sides.

00:28:05.000 And it tried to model their impact on GDP growth.

00:28:09.000 The reason I say a bigger deal's been made of it is what it showed is the difference between the sets of policies that they put forward was about two-tenths of one percent.

00:28:17.000 I think our clients are trying to look at what's going on from a policy perspective and make judgments.

00:28:21.000 I think this blew up into something that's bigger than what it was intended to be.

00:28:25.000 So in other words, she was lying about all of that.

00:28:27.000 Because of course she has to lie.

00:28:29.000 She has to lie about Afghanistan. 0.98

00:28:31.000 She has to lie about the economy. 1.00

00:28:33.000 She has to lie about immigration. 1.00

00:28:34.000 You know, all of this stupid talk about whether dogs and cats are being eaten in Springfield. 0.99

00:28:38.000 Which again, President Trump, for whatever reason, he tends to glom onto whatever is the meme-iest thing of the day. 0.99

00:28:45.000 And the meanest thing of the day, that debate, was all of the grok AI photos of Donald Trump

00:28:50.000 protecting cats and geese and such.

00:28:52.000 And so Trump, it got in his head, as you saw it on TV, that they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats,

00:28:58.000 eating them in Springfield.

00:29:00.000 And it's become kind of a viral TikTok meme, and it's pretty funny.

00:29:03.000 But the reality is that underlying all that is a pretty serious issue in Springfield, Ohio.

00:29:08.000 Here, for example, is a resident of Springfield, Ohio, talking about how there are lots of homeless people

00:29:13.000 on the streets of Springfield, Ohio.

00:29:15.000 None of those people are being given stipends by the federal government so they can get housing,

00:29:19.000 but new Haitian immigrants are.

00:29:21.000 you The homeless problem.

00:29:24.000 I don't know of a single homeless Haitian in this town because they all got vouchers. 1.00

00:29:29.000 But I can show you a whole bunch of people that have been displaced because I'm that guy.

00:29:33.000 Rob, you know for 25 years I've worked with the homeless in this community.

00:29:38.000 These are all major problems that Kamala Harris is ignoring.

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00:30:54.000 It is, again, these are all major problems, and Kamala Harris is ignoring all of them in favor of jabber about vibes and compassion and the future. 0.88

00:31:03.000 Now, there are very serious economic problems on the way, and Kamala Harris is a deeply unserious person.

00:31:07.000 So, for example, we just found out yesterday that interest payments on the national debt have topped $1 trillion this year.

00:31:15.000 According to CNBC, the U.S.

00:31:16.000 government, for the first time, has now spent more than a trillion dollars on interest payments for its $35.3 trillion national debt.

00:31:23.000 With the Federal Reserve holding benchmark rates at their highest in 23 years, the government

00:31:26.000 has laid out $1.049 trillion on debt service, up 30% for the same period ago, and part of

00:31:33.000 a projected $1.158 trillion in payments for the full year.

00:31:37.000 Subtracting the interest the government earns on its own investments, net interest payments

00:31:40.000 have totaled $843 billion.

00:31:43.000 We are now spending more money paying back our debt.

00:31:45.000 The interest on the debt.

00:31:46.000 We're not paying the actual principal back on the debt.

00:31:48.000 We're spending more money on that than anything in the American budget, except for Social Security and Medicare.

00:31:54.000 That jump in debt service costs came as the U.S.

00:31:57.000 budget deficit surged in August, edging close to $2 trillion for the full year.

00:32:03.000 Now, I want to show you this chart.

00:32:04.000 This is a chart of American interest payments.

00:32:08.000 These are interest payments on the debt.

00:32:09.000 What we owe to other countries on the debt.

00:32:11.000 As you can see, if you go all the way back to the 50s, the answer was pretty much nothing.

00:32:14.000 Pretty much nothing.

00:32:15.000 And then it started to climb in the 60s, fairly consistently until you hit The late 1970s, the mid to late 1970s, and then the trajectory started to climb even more and it set on this new very, very steep trajectory going from approximately $50 billion all the way up to continuously about $350 billion in about a little before the year 2000.

00:32:40.000 Then the interest payments on the debt started to come down.

00:32:44.000 From that late 90s period through the mid 2000s they started to climb again fairly precipitously until you hit the 2008 crash and then kind of bounced around a little bit and then and then the 2020 pandemic and its aftermath and they just went line that goes straight up.

00:32:59.000 It's a line that goes straight up.

00:33:01.000 And that is Joe Biden's inflationary policy.

00:33:04.000 Because we took out more money to spend, which means we have to pay more money back, and we took it out at exorbitant interest rates because we had to increase the interest rates in order to jack down the inflation.

00:33:14.000 And so what you end up with is a jump from approximately $587 billion in servicing the interest on the national debt in the year 2019 to $1 trillion today.

00:33:26.000 $1 trillion.

00:33:29.000 And that's only going to continue to grow.

00:33:31.000 The amount we owe in terms of our interest bill continues to spike.

00:33:36.000 So does the national debt.

00:33:38.000 As late as 2014, as late as 2014, the U.S.

00:33:42.000 national debt was $18 trillion.

00:33:44.000 Today, the national debt is $35 trillion.

00:33:48.000 In the course of one decade, we full-on doubled the national debt in this country.

00:33:53.000 That is totally unsustainable.

00:33:55.000 And when Kamala Harris says she's going to solve that by continuing to spend on massive social programs, What she really means is that she's not gonna solve it at all.

00:34:04.000 If she believes she's gonna solve our nation's economic and fiscal problems by taxing rich people, she's out of her mind. 0.99

00:34:11.000 There are only two things that can happen here in order to solve this problem.

00:34:14.000 One is massive economic growth, and the other is reduction in spending, and they have to be combined.

00:34:19.000 The reality is the three biggest items, notice the military budget is not one of these, the three biggest items that are driving America's national debt and the interest on the national debt Our payments on the interest, on our national debt, Medicare and Social Security.

00:34:33.000 Those are the big three.

00:34:34.000 And we're not touching any of those until we actually lower our spending.

00:34:38.000 We can outgrow some of our problems, but we can't outgrow all of these problems.

00:34:42.000 Phil Graham and Jody Arrington have a piece in the Wall Street Journal yesterday pointing out that welfare is what is eating the budget.

00:34:49.000 They say, ask any budget expert in Washington to explain the ballooning deficit and debt.

00:34:53.000 Social Security and Medicare will be high on the list of causes.

00:34:55.000 That's wrong.

00:34:56.000 The real driver, the elephant in the room, is means-tested social welfare spending.

00:35:01.000 Medicaid, food stamps, refundable tax credits, supplemental Social Security income, temporary assistance for needy families, federal housing subsidies, and almost 100 other programs whose eligibility is limited to those below an income threshold.

00:35:12.000 True, Social Security and Medicare are a drain on general revenue and will become big fiscal problems if not reformed, but they aren't the major source of our current fiscal crisis, because both are financed in large part by dedicated payroll taxes.

00:35:24.000 Since its inception, Social Security has produced cash surpluses 60% of the time.

00:35:28.000 In 2023, Social Security payroll taxes funded about 89% of benefits.

00:35:33.000 Means-tested welfare programs, however, totaled $1.6 trillion in 2023.

00:35:39.000 Welfare spending now absorbs an astonishing 73% of unobligated general revenue.

00:35:45.000 That is total revenue, net Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes, which are earmarked for those purposes, as well as interest on the public debt.

00:35:53.000 It is larger than the claims against unobligated general revenue by Social Security, Medicare, and defense combined.

00:36:00.000 So, these gigantic welfare payments that Kamala Harris wishes to structure will only exacerbate this problem by leaps and bounds. 0.99

00:36:08.000 So you can see a world where we restructure Social Security or Medicare.

00:36:13.000 You can see a world where we outgrow, even, some of our problems, but you're not going to outgrow the problem of continuing to stack debt on top of debt on top of debt, all in order to pay off particular political constituencies, which is exactly what Kamala Harris wants to do. 1.00

00:36:26.000 She is promising free money, and then more free money, and then after that, even more free money.

00:36:31.000 That is her promise.

00:36:33.000 So, if you want to know whether the American economy is going to stagnate, the answer under Kamala Harris is absolutely yes.

00:36:40.000 She's going to regulate the hell out of business, she's going to tax it if it ain't dead, and then she's going to spend every dollar she can find on paying off particular political constituencies in the name of equity. 1.00

00:36:51.000 Those are the things she is going to do.

00:36:53.000 Pretending that she is a fiscally responsible actor is absurd.

00:36:56.000 Now, both parties are fiscally irresponsible, but one is a lot more fiscally irresponsible than the other when it comes to spending on programs that never sunset and only grow.

00:37:07.000 The Democratic Party has set in place every major social welfare payment in the United States.

00:37:12.000 I know some people celebrate that.

00:37:14.000 That's nothing to celebrate when you're talking about a $35 trillion national debt growing by leaps and bounds every single year.

00:37:20.000 And it'll only get worse under Kamala Harris.

00:37:23.000 If you imagine that the economy is a horse, and that horse is capable of carrying a certain amount of welfare burden, we have now stacked an elephant's worth of welfare burden on top of the horse.

00:37:34.000 The horse is about to collapse.

00:37:36.000 In just one second, we'll get to President Trump, who is attempting to fight back in the campaign.

00:37:42.000 First, as we spoke about earlier, today is The Daily Wire's first ever theatrical release, Am I Racist?

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00:38:27.000 Neil, of course, is there to comment on the big interview that Tucker Carlson did with a person named Darrell Cooper

00:38:33.000 with regard to the origins of World War II in which Cooper suggested that the big villain

00:38:38.000 was Winston Churchill.

00:38:39.000 Neil has written many books, including a book called The Wars of the World,

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00:38:50.000 Fascinating stuff.

00:38:50.000 And Neil, of course, knows pretty much everything on this subject.

00:38:53.000 Here's a bit of the trailer.

00:38:55.000 But it's a fact that Britain has become a multi-ethnic and multi-racial society as the United States is today, and London is a cosmopolitan city the way New York is.

00:39:07.000 These are realities.

00:39:09.000 If your response to these cities is, I wish Hitler had won World War II, then it seems to me you really don't have a place in a serious discourse about these issues.

00:39:19.000 you've exposed yourself as somebody who would like to be aligned with the genocidal killers

00:39:25.000 of the 1930s and 1940s.

00:39:29.000 Don't miss this incredible episode of the Sunday Special with my friend Neil Ferguson.

00:39:38.000 Folks, we'll get to President Trump's campaign and how he needs to fight back against Kamala Harris in just one second.

00:39:43.000 First, a little bit earlier this week, we had the opportunity to sit down with Justin Falk.

00:39:46.000 He's the director of Matt's brand new movie in theaters today, Am I Racist?

00:39:51.000 Here's what it sounded like.

00:39:52.000 Folks, I'm here with Justin Folk.

00:39:53.000 He is, of course, a film producer and director.

00:39:56.000 After working in Hollywood on films like The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions and The Incredible Hulk, Justin shifted his creative efforts to create films with a cultural impact.

00:40:04.000 He produced and directed the smash hit film What Is A Woman?

00:40:07.000 starring our own Matt Walsh.

00:40:08.000 It's one of the most watched documentaries of all time.

00:40:10.000 It's been translated into nearly A dozen languages worldwide.

00:40:14.000 And, of course, he's now teamed up again with Matt and recently produced and directed the film Am I Racist?

00:40:18.000 Set to release nationwide in theaters September 13, 2024.

00:40:20.000 Justin, thanks for stopping by.

00:40:23.000 Thanks for having me.

00:40:24.000 So, I've seen the film.

00:40:25.000 It's awesome.

00:40:27.000 Tell me about the genesis of this film.

00:40:28.000 Where did this come from?

00:40:29.000 I mean, it comes on the heels of What Is Woman. 0.97

00:40:32.000 You mentioned What Is Woman there.

00:40:33.000 We had great success in terms of getting a message out there, making a huge cultural impact.

00:40:38.000 So, you know, we didn't want to get off the train, honestly.

00:40:40.000 We were like, we have a good thing going here with Matt and our team, awesome team of producers.

00:40:46.000 And we're just like, OK, what can we do next?

00:40:48.000 And what's the issue that we can do next?

00:40:49.000 And how are we going to go about it?

00:40:51.000 We didn't want to make a sequel, per se.

00:40:54.000 So we knew we had to kind of go bigger than the last film.

00:40:58.000 And so we decided, hey, how do we do this?

00:41:00.000 How do we go bigger and not make just a What Is A Woman part two this time on race? 1.00

00:41:06.000 So we really kind of got a bunch of minds in a room and came up with a lot of ideas, some good, some bad, and came out the other side with this idea to take Matt on this journey and sort of do a, you know, if What Is A Woman kind of does a zig, this one does a zag, you know?

00:41:22.000 Matt learns about the issue, ultimately goes and kind of fights against it, stands up against it.

00:41:28.000 In this movie, he does the opposite.

00:41:31.000 He basically learns about it and becomes one of them, and we take things to their logical conclusions.

00:41:35.000 So it was just, after What Is Woman, we decided, hey, let's do this again, but let's go bigger.

00:41:40.000 Let's go bigger this time.

00:41:41.000 So what's it like working with Matt?

00:41:42.000 I mean, he's obviously, as Jeremy Boring puts it, sociopathic.

00:41:46.000 I mean, you watch him in this film, and it's so hard to watch the interaction between him and some of these anti-racist educators and figures who are being paid thousands of dollars to be there.

00:41:58.000 And Matt just keeps, like, digging deeper and deeper with them.

00:42:01.000 And every time you think that he's reached the center of the onion, there's more layers of him just making it awkward.

00:42:07.000 How's it working with Matt?

00:42:08.000 I mean, Matt is like 4D chess out there.

00:42:12.000 And you can't read him, right?

00:42:12.000 So don't ever play poker with Matt Walsh.

00:42:14.000 Just don't do it.

00:42:15.000 Because he doesn't show anything.

00:42:18.000 And so he's able to, in those conversations, he's able to kind of move it this way and move it that way.

00:42:22.000 Almost like a cat with a ball of yarn.

00:42:24.000 He can just kind of...

00:42:25.000 Bat that person around a little bit.

00:42:27.000 You know, the scene with Robin DiAngelo is just a masterful example of Matt really knowing where he wants to take it and then finding the path to get there.

00:42:36.000 And so he's a unique talent, obviously, to be not just a guy who knows about these ideas, but to drop him in a situation like that, that's high pressure and there's no second takes, and for him to just sort of navigate around and just sort of Kind of lead that person around like they're on a leash.

00:42:55.000 It's amazing to watch.

00:42:57.000 I mean, one of the questions that occurs to me, and I'm an executive producer on the film,

00:43:00.000 but one of the things that occurs to me watching it, because I've only seen actually like an early product

00:43:03.000 and then the very, very final form of the film, when you're doing things like there's a grief therapy

00:43:09.000 session for white people, and it's unbelievable, and Matt is hysterically funny in it,

00:43:14.000 I mean, how do you even set up that scenario?

00:43:17.000 Because obviously you have cameras in the room, you have microphones in the room,

00:43:20.000 people know they're on film, I would assume, while they're in the room,

00:43:23.000 I mean, it's not like it's a hidden camera thing.

00:43:25.000 And so, were you surprised at how much people were sort of willing to be themselves

00:43:30.000 in front of a camera and mic?

00:43:32.000 I mean, to a certain degree, yes.

00:43:34.000 I mean, our job, my job as a director is to basically create the sandbox for Matt to play in.

00:43:39.000 And there's a lot of preparation that goes into that.

00:43:41.000 So that involves reaching out to these people, saying to them, hey, we'd love to film your workshop, your support group workshop.

00:43:48.000 We're doing a film on anti-racism.

00:43:50.000 You guys are an example of sort of anti-racism and how You know, how that can go.

00:43:57.000 And so we would, you know, get their permission to basically just film a workshop, do their normal thing.

00:44:01.000 We were like, don't change anything you're doing.

00:44:04.000 We just want to observe.

00:44:05.000 And then, you know, just parachuting Matt into the scene as the extra element that kind of, you know, to spice things up.

00:44:11.000 So I'm always surprised when you hear these people in real life say what they have to say.

00:44:17.000 And really, that's the whole point of the film, right, is to show Americans this is what these people believe.

00:44:22.000 This is what they're pushing on the rest of us.

00:44:25.000 And we as Americans need to know, like, is this really the direction that we want to take ourselves?

00:44:30.000 And so, very important just to show them in their own words.

00:44:32.000 And we didn't take them out of context.

00:44:35.000 We don't edit them out of context.

00:44:37.000 We just show them for what they truly are, what they truly believe.

00:44:41.000 And we let the chips, you know, basically fall from there for Americans to decide.

00:44:44.000 I mean, one of the things that's really striking, there's a scene that happens in the film where Matt actually just goes and talks to kind of normal Americans.

00:44:51.000 He goes to a bar, and he goes to an auto shop, and he just talks with normal Americans.

00:44:56.000 And the difference between kind of the normal American, who just has a baseline understanding of biblical values, like be kind to your neighbor and treat your neighbor how you would want to be treated, and the pseudo-intellectual nonsense, the jargon that's just spewed by these people, It's beautifully juxtaposed.

00:45:11.000 I mean, you really see in true color kind of the difference between people who are good and people who manipulate for money and for power and for grift.

00:45:20.000 It's amazing.

00:45:20.000 Yeah, and you know, this isn't just a funny movie.

00:45:22.000 It's a very, it's a funny movie about a very serious topic.

00:45:25.000 And so it was very important to have that contrast.

00:45:28.000 It was important to have those regular everyday people that live their lives and aren't part of this Crazy, crazy division that's taking place.

00:45:36.000 In fact, it's actually the heart and soul of the movie.

00:45:39.000 When people watch the movie, they look at the scene.

00:45:40.000 We interviewed a guy named Milton down in New Orleans, and he is the heart and soul of the film.

00:45:46.000 He's just a guy that's had a good go here in America.

00:45:50.000 He loves the country.

00:45:52.000 And Matt sits down with him, and Matt asks him kind of these crazy questions coming from the perspective of a DEI, you know.

00:46:00.000 Race hustler, and he just doesn't buy it.

00:46:02.000 He just starts laughing.

00:46:03.000 He's like, this is crazy.

00:46:04.000 And we noticed, of course, that whether they were black, whether they were white, they basically had the same exact message when Matt talked to them, these regular, everyday people.

00:46:13.000 And then when we hold that in contrast to these so-called experts, these people that are pushing this stuff, it really is astounding, you know, the chasm that's there.

00:46:24.000 So when you were filming it, what was the scene where you finished filming the scene and you and Matt just sort of like high-fived each other?

00:46:30.000 There was a couple of those.

00:46:31.000 There was a couple of those.

00:46:32.000 I will say, like, the workshop scene at the end, where, you know, it's a bit of a social experiment.

00:46:38.000 We put these people in a room, and Matt is teaching a DEI course based on everything he's sort of learned along the way.

00:46:45.000 So these are all their ideas, and we're just showing them to their logical conclusion.

00:46:49.000 But at the end of that scene, we have this scene.

00:46:52.000 I don't want to give away too many spoilers, but we have this crazy scene with Matt and his uncle, Uncle Frank.

00:46:57.000 And we never know how this is going to go.

00:46:59.000 We thought people would walk out of the workshop because they'd be upset with Matt, because how he treats his uncle in that scene.

00:47:08.000 But in fact, the opposite happened.

00:47:10.000 They piled on.

00:47:11.000 They piled on to what Matt was doing.

00:47:14.000 And that was extremely shocking.

00:47:15.000 And I remember when we were done filming that, Matt walks over to me and he just is like, Man, that was dark.

00:47:21.000 That was dark.

00:47:23.000 And although a funny scene, it actually kind of points to a very fundamental, kind of a deep, deep problem in our society that we've gotten this far, that people would be in a situation like that and want to pile on.

00:47:37.000 It just shows you what this all leads to.

00:47:40.000 So, obviously, these films are a huge process.

00:47:42.000 They're a huge journey.

00:47:44.000 And now at the end of this one, we're taking it to theaters.

00:47:45.000 This is the first time that Daily Wire has ever released a movie in theaters.

00:47:49.000 It's going to be released to at least over 1,500 screens, last we heard, over the weekend, which is an amazing thing for a documentary.

00:47:55.000 Talk a little bit about how important that is.

00:47:57.000 You've had movies in theaters before, but nothing like this.

00:48:00.000 It's a beautiful thing.

00:48:01.000 I'm so proud of everybody, our distributor, SDG, and everything they've done.

00:48:05.000 Of course, the Daily Wire 4.

00:48:07.000 I mean, nobody else would make a movie like this.

00:48:09.000 Daily Wire, nobody else would do it.

00:48:12.000 The collaboration with you and Jeremy Boring and everybody on the team to make this happen is a really amazing thing.

00:48:18.000 And it's not easy.

00:48:20.000 You know, theaters don't usually take movies like this.

00:48:23.000 We had to kind of prove ourselves to do that.

00:48:26.000 They gave us a certain amount of screens, and then pre-sales were good, and then we got to expand.

00:48:31.000 But it's huge in terms of culture, because people look at movies differently than they do, no offense, but podcasts and everything else.

00:48:38.000 For sure, of course.

00:48:39.000 One's a permanent piece of culture, and one is day-to-day.

00:48:41.000 And so for us to kind of break into that sphere is very important.

00:48:47.000 And to get our message delivered to just regular everyday Americans that may be a little bit tuned out on the issues, but to drop this piece of culture in their laps and get them to think about these things is so important.

00:48:59.000 And for us to be the ones that entertain and make people laugh.

00:49:03.000 So important for us as conservatives to be able to do that.

00:49:06.000 And we haven't always done it well.

00:49:09.000 Times are changing.

00:49:10.000 And I'm thrilled.

00:49:12.000 I'm very lucky to be part of that, to be able to do a movie like this with Matt and with Daily Wire.

00:49:19.000 It's an incredible privilege.

00:49:20.000 And we just are betting, we are absolutely betting on the fact that people will go out and support this thing.

00:49:25.000 That they've been waiting a long time, that Hollywood has been shoveling up the drivel for so long, and now here's an opportunity to say, no, this is the type of thing that I want to support at the box office.

00:49:36.000 So I think it's not just an opportunity for us as storytellers, it's an opportunity for America to go out and be like, this is the kind of thing that I want to see more of.

00:49:44.000 Well, Justin, it's an amazing piece of work.

00:49:46.000 Honestly, like, amazing job by you, amazing job by Matt, and folks, you really should go see it in the theaters.

00:49:51.000 September 13th, it's available.

00:49:53.000 Bring all your friends, because it's best watched in a group.

00:49:55.000 We watched it the other night in a group together, and I gotta say, with a crowd, it's hysterically funny.

00:50:00.000 It's really, really, really funny.

00:50:01.000 You're gonna enjoy it.

00:50:01.000 You're gonna learn a lot from it.

00:50:03.000 Make sure you bring a liberal friend, because they'll learn a lot from it, too.

00:50:05.000 Go check it out.

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00:51:18.000 Meanwhile, President Trump's campaign has said that he is not going to debate anymore.

00:51:22.000 As I suggested, that was probably going to happen.

00:51:24.000 He says he's not going to debate because why would he?

00:51:26.000 Unless the moderators could be agreed upon, there's no reason for him to do it.

00:51:30.000 He did not perform well the other night.

00:51:31.000 The format did not suit him.

00:51:32.000 He was pathologically incapable of pursuing coherent points against her.

00:51:36.000 That is his fault.

00:51:38.000 The moderators were awful and terrible.

00:51:39.000 No good, very bad.

00:51:41.000 Independently, Trump did not do what he needed to do.

00:51:43.000 However, There's still 50 days left of this campaign.

00:51:45.000 That's what that means.

00:51:46.000 He needs to be meticulously pursuing the campaign against her.

00:51:50.000 We're getting some of that.

00:51:51.000 So, for example, President Trump has now said that he is going to eliminate taxes on overtime pay if he wins a second term in November.

00:51:59.000 He said, I'm announcing that as part of our additional tax cuts, we'll end all taxes on overtime.

00:52:02.000 That gives people more of an incentive to work.

00:52:04.000 It gives companies a lot, it's a lot easier to get people.

00:52:08.000 He said, when workers are past 40 hours a week, your overtime hours will be tax-free.

00:52:13.000 The Harris campaign then called Trump's proposal his latest snake oil sales pitch.

00:52:17.000 So it'll be fun when they adopt that plan five minutes from now, presumably, because that's what they do.

00:52:23.000 However, as I say, President Trump's campaign remains somewhat discombobulated.

00:52:28.000 He needs to get on the rails now.

00:52:31.000 So, for example, President Trump, he's so susceptible to the memes.

00:52:34.000 This is why the people who surround him need to be meticulous in their approach when they speak with him.

00:52:40.000 There are people who he likes, who hang out with him, who are speaking the latest internet memory into his ear.

00:52:47.000 And because that is an echo chamber, it's easy for Trump to be too online.

00:52:51.000 So yesterday, for example, Trump at a rally started talking about how Kamala Harris didn't work at McDonald's.

00:52:56.000 We actually don't know whether Kamala Harris ever worked at McDonald's.

00:52:58.000 She says she did.

00:52:59.000 The Washington Free Beacon has tried to dig into that and all the rest.

00:53:02.000 However, is this going to be a key point in the campaign?

00:53:05.000 Or is this just going to be sort of chum in the water for the internet types?

00:53:10.000 Like, how about this?

00:53:10.000 How about stick to the issues on a meticulous level?

00:53:13.000 Make her answer for her record.

00:53:15.000 How about that? 1.00

00:53:18.000 She's a liar. 1.00

00:53:19.000 She doesn't work at McDonald's. 0.99

00:53:20.000 She said she worked at McDonald's, right?

00:53:24.000 Right?

00:53:25.000 She worked at McDonald's and she was working so hard.

00:53:28.000 There's only one problem.

00:53:30.000 She didn't work at McDonald's. 1.00

00:53:31.000 She's a liar! 1.00

00:53:32.000 She's a liar! 1.00

00:53:41.000 I don't see actually the purpose of this. 0.99

00:53:43.000 Again, it might be fun for his base.

00:53:44.000 The base is already jazzed.

00:53:45.000 The base is ready to go.

00:53:46.000 I'm going to vote for him.

00:53:47.000 Many people are already going to vote for him.

00:53:49.000 We don't need this.

00:53:50.000 What we need is a meticulous attack directed toward the independents in this election.

00:53:54.000 And I know what I'm about to say is kind of shocking to me as well.

00:53:57.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene, the voice of reason in the room.

00:53:59.000 So there have been a lot of reports that Laura Loomer is hanging around with Trump.

00:54:03.000 Now, listen, there are a lot of problems with Laura Loomer. 0.99

00:54:05.000 Many, many issues with Laura Loomer.

00:54:07.000 Foremost among them, the simple fact is that Laura Loomer is very online.

00:54:10.000 Like, super duper online.

00:54:12.000 I mean, sure, she says a lot of terrible things.

00:54:14.000 She makes jokes that then Trump has to answer for.

00:54:18.000 But also, like, this is all a red herring.

00:54:21.000 Don't follow the shiny object in the room.

00:54:23.000 Here's Marjorie Taylor Greene speaking some semblance of reason here.

00:54:28.000 This is such an important election.

00:54:30.000 I don't think that she has the experience or the right mentality to advise at a very important election.

00:54:38.000 She's getting bad advice.

00:54:39.000 He's getting bad advice from her.

00:54:44.000 I'm not involved in their conversations, so I can't weigh in on that.

00:54:48.000 But I do know this, that her rhetoric and her tone does not match the base, does not match MAGA, does not match less Republicans I know.

00:54:58.000 And I'm completely denouncing it.

00:55:01.000 I'm over it.

00:55:02.000 And I would encourage anyone else that matches her statements to stop.

00:55:08.000 She ain't wrong. 0.70

00:55:09.000 She ain't wrong. 1.00

00:55:10.000 The selection is too important to blow it over stupidity. 1.00

00:55:12.000 It is. 1.00

00:55:13.000 Which means it's time to recalibrate and time to get back on track.

00:55:16.000 The Trump train needs to be on track if he is going to re-enter the White House.

00:55:20.000 All righty guys, coming up, we haven't done a mailbag in a while, so that's what we're going

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00:55:29.000 Republicans or Nazis, you cannot separate yourselves from the bad white people. 0.90

00:55:34.000 Growing up, I never thought much about race. 0.95

00:55:36.000 It never really seemed to matter that much, at least not to me.

00:55:39.000 Am I racist?

00:55:40.000 I would really appreciate it if you left.

00:55:41.000 I'm trying to learn.

00:55:42.000 I'm on this journey.

00:55:43.000 I'm gonna sort this out.

00:55:44.000 I need to go deeper undercover.

00:55:49.000 Joining us now is Matt, certified DEI expert.

00:55:52.000 Here's my certification.

00:55:53.000 What you're doing is you're stretching out of your whiteness. 0.71

00:55:56.000 This is more for you in this field.

00:55:57.000 Is America inherently racist?

00:55:59.000 The word inherent is challenging there.

00:56:01.000 You want to rename the George Washington Monument to the George Floyd Monument?

00:56:04.000 America is racist to its bones.

00:56:06.000 So inherently? 0.98

00:56:07.000 Yes. 1.00

00:56:07.000 This country is a piece of shit. 1.00

00:56:10.000 White. 1.00

00:56:10.000 Folks. 1.00

00:56:11.000 White. 1.00

00:56:11.000 Trash. 1.00

00:56:11.000 White supremacy. 1.00

00:56:12.000 White woman. 1.00

00:56:12.000 White boy. 1.00

00:56:13.000 Is there a black person around here?

00:56:14.000 What's a black person right here? 0.86

00:56:16.000 Does he not exist?

00:56:17.000 Hi, Robin.

00:56:19.000 Hi.

00:56:19.000 What's your name?

00:56:20.000 I'm Matt.

00:56:21.000 I just had to ask who you are because you have to be careful.

The Ben Shapiro Show - September 13, 2024

Matt Walsh DESTROYS The DEI Industry

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