The Ben Shapiro Show - Meet The Democrat Who Fantasizes About SHOOTING A GOP Leader

00:00:00.000 Stack showed today a Democratic attorney general nominee in Virginia was caught on text saying that he wanted to shoot political opponents, and also that that political opponent's kids are actually small fascists.

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00:02:02.000 Well, folks, as we'll explore in just a moment, I think it is fair to say the Democratic Party has a fairly serious violent extremism problem.

00:02:08.000 We've been talking about this for weeks, obviously.

00:02:11.000 All this reached its apotheosis with the murder of Charlie Kirk and the explosion of sympathy for the murderer among mainstream members of the press, certainly in places like X and Blue Sky from the left.

00:02:24.000 We now have some statistics to back up willingness to engage in violent activity in order to press forward a political agenda, particularly from the left, thanks to Skeptic Research Center, which is connected with Skeptic magazine, which is run by Michael Schirmer.

00:02:38.000 This brand new study investigates support for political violence among Americans.

00:02:42.000 And what it finds is that some 44% of very liberal people in the United States, 44% say, quote, violence is often necessary to create social change.

00:02:54.000 Meanwhile, 28% of liberals say that as well.

00:02:58.000 The levels of support on the right are not even close.

00:03:01.000 Normal conservatives, only 20% say that.

00:03:04.000 People who consider themselves very conservative say violence is often necessary to create social change.

00:03:09.000 In other words, more mainstream liberals than very conservatives believe that violence is often necessary to create social change.

00:03:17.000 About one in three younger adults, according to this survey, that'd be Gen Z and millennials, express support for political violence.

00:03:24.000 Liberal Gen Z women were more supportive of political violence than were Gen X and baby boomer men.

00:03:30.000 And that makes some sense considering the fact that liberal Gen Z women constitute a huge percentage of the very far left.

00:03:38.000 Not only that, this sort of belief system that people who are undereducated, people who are ignorant, that those are the people who are perfectly happy with political violence.

00:03:46.000 Actually, it turns out political violence is a luxury belief.

00:03:49.000 Americans with the highest level of educational attainment, graduate or professional degree, or about twice as likely to support political violence than those with less formal education.

00:03:59.000 As my friend Dennis Prager suggested, college these days is not teaching people wisdom.

00:04:04.000 It is giving them information and not teaching them wisdom.

00:04:07.000 Over half of black Gen Z adults agreed violence is often necessary to create social change.

00:04:13.000 This, of course, is a massive problem, a gigantic problem.

00:04:16.000 And of course, the problem does skew young.

00:04:19.000 If you look at how this breaks down according to age, what you see is that for the proposition, violence is often necessary to create social change.

00:04:29.000 Forty-nine percent of liberal Gen Zers believe that violence is often necessary to create social change.

00:04:36.000 For millennials, 44% of millennials who are liberal believe violence is often necessary to create social change.

00:04:42.000 Now, there are a large percentage of conservatives who also believe that.

00:04:47.000 So, again, the idea that this doesn't exist, permission structures for violence only exist on the left, that's not true.

00:04:52.000 But predominantly, right now, they do exist on the left.

00:04:56.000 And we are seeing that manifest day by day.

00:05:00.000 Let me cover the news.

00:05:01.000 The news is always the stuff that's happening on top of the iceberg.

00:05:05.000 It's the events that are happening in plain view.

00:05:07.000 And then the stuff below the iceberg is the gigantic social support systems for the things happening at the top of the iceberg.

00:05:14.000 And so when we talk about this story of a Democrat, Virginia Attorney General candidate fantasizing about murdering a state GOP leader, you have to understand that the reason that that is happening is because of these gigantic thought structures that have been created and perpetuated generationally that say it is perfectly okay to talk about murdering your political opponents because they are your political opponents.

00:05:36.000 According to the Daily Wire, Democrat Virginia Attorney General candidate Jay Jones, in recently uncovered text messages, fantasized about murdering a state GOP leader with quote, two bullets to the head and then pissing on the graves of other Republicans.

00:05:50.000 In text messages first obtained by National Review, Jones says to another lawmaker he would use two bullets to murder then GOP House speaker Todd Gilbert.

00:05:58.000 Three people, two bullets, Gilbert, Hitler, and Paul Pot.

00:06:01.000 Gilbert gets two bullets to the head.

00:06:03.000 Jones texted to delegate Kerry Koiner, a Republican.

00:06:06.000 Spoiler, put Gilbert in the crew with the two worst people you know, and he receives both bullets every time.

00:06:12.000 Earlier in the text messages, Jones expressed he would attend the funerals of Republican lawmakers in Virginia to piss on their graves.

00:06:19.000 Send them out a wash in something.

00:06:22.000 So apparently what ticked him off is that there was a funeral for a Democrat in the state of Virginia, and the Republican GOP House speaker Todd Gilbert went to that funeral for Democrat delegate Joe Johnson, who passed away at the age of 90 and said nice things.

00:06:38.000 And this, of course, is what made Jay Jones very, very angry.

00:06:42.000 The Democrat Virginia AG candidate.

00:06:45.000 And so he texted this Republican state delegate, if those guys die before me, I will go to their funerals to piss on their graves, send them out a wash in something.

00:06:54.000 And then again, he made the sort of old joke, and it is an old joke, that if you're in a room and you have two bullets in your gun, there are these three people in the room, and two of them are Hitler and Pol Pot, you put two bullets not in the truly evil people, but in this third person.

00:07:07.000 Now, to be fair, that is kind of an old joke.

00:07:10.000 But then he followed up.

00:07:12.000 Then he followed up.

00:07:14.000 A follow-up message from Jones confirmed not only that he wanted to kill Gilbert, but also that he would like Gilbert's children to die.

00:07:23.000 Okay, so this Republican state delegate wrote back, you weren't simply asking questions, and you know it.

00:07:29.000 And Jones wrote back, I genuinely was.

00:07:31.000 I wasn't attacking you.

00:07:32.000 I was trying to understand your logic.

00:07:35.000 And the Republican delegate wrote back, you weren't trying to understand.

00:07:38.000 You were talking about hoping Jennifer Gilbert's children would die.

00:07:40.000 And you wrote back, yes, I've told you this before.

00:07:43.000 Only when people feel pain personally do they move on policy.

00:07:48.000 And the Republican state delegate wrote back, I point blank asked you more than three times, and you dug in that you meant it.

00:07:54.000 I honestly am questioning a lot today.

00:07:56.000 This is in the aftermath of Charlie Crook's murder.

00:07:57.000 This person went back and asked, Did you mean that when you were talking about shooting people?

00:08:01.000 And this Democrat AG candidate wrote back, I mean, do I think Todd and Jennifer are evil and that they are breeding little fascists?

00:08:10.000 Yes.

00:08:12.000 Okay, that is insane, obviously.

00:08:15.000 When some Earl Sears, who is running for governor of Virginia right now, and is currently Lieutenant Governor under Glenn Youncan, put out a statement calling for the resignation of Jay Jones, saying, quote, this is a horrible to read and should be wholly disqualifying of someone running for an office that protects the people of Virginia.

00:08:32.000 Jay Jones's horrific comments are a symptom of the entire Democratic Party, and his running mate, Abigail Spanberger needs to call him out, call on him to drop out.

00:08:39.000 Attorney General Jason Mieres has served the people of Virginia with honor and dignity and will continue to do so come November.

00:08:45.000 Jay Jones can never be attorney general of Virginia.

00:08:48.000 Now, the way that the mainstream media have covered this, totally insane.

00:08:53.000 And quite wild, actually.

00:08:55.000 First, they claim that they're allegations that Jay Jones wanted his political opponent.

00:09:00.000 Those aren't allegations.

00:09:02.000 He literally just said it.

00:09:04.000 He literally just said it.

00:09:05.000 It wasn't that those aren't allegations.

00:09:07.000 If you text someone and then you confirm over and over you mean a thing, and then you say that children should die because they're they're little fascists.

00:09:14.000 I mean, at a certain point, can we take you at your word?

00:09:19.000 Politico reported it this way, and this just shows you the insanity of the legacy media.

00:09:23.000 Quote, a string of text messages from Jay Jones, Virginia's Democratic nominee for attorney general, where he mused about violence directed toward a political rival, is triggering widespread backlash and threatening to shake up the state's November election.

00:09:36.000 So the story, as always, this is how it works.

00:09:38.000 If Democrats do a bad thing, the story is Republicans' pounds.

00:09:41.000 If Republicans do a bad thing, the story is Republicans did a bad thing.

00:09:46.000 I love that language there.

00:09:48.000 That Jay Jones mused about violence.

00:09:50.000 It's just musing, a little bit amusing.

00:09:52.000 You know, it's what you do.

00:09:54.000 Like when you call for someone's murder.

00:09:55.000 It's you musing about what would happen if something bad were to happen to them.

00:10:02.000 Pretty incredible stuff.

00:10:04.000 There's no I'm sorry.

00:10:05.000 This again, this conversation apparently happened in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk being murdered.

00:10:10.000 And so when we say that the legacy left, the mainstream left has a soft spot in its heart for murder and terrorism.

00:10:20.000 I wish I could say that weren't true, but it appears that there is a lot of truth to that statement, and there's poll data to support it as well.

00:10:27.000 And it's embedded systemically in the system.

00:10:29.000 If you are a member of a so-called oppressed group, you can get away with literally attempting to murder a sitting Supreme Court justice.

00:10:37.000 If you happen to be a person who claims you are trans, you will get a lesser sentence.

00:10:41.000 This is the other big lesson of the weekend in left-wing violence.

00:10:44.000 Alrighty, folks, the violent permission structures don't just exist with regard to this Virginia AG nominee.

00:10:50.000 They also exist in Chicago, in Portland.

00:10:53.000 Actually, in London, the leftist violence permission structures continue.

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00:13:23.000 Well, he was just sentenced on Friday to eight years in prison.

00:13:26.000 Why precisely did he not get 30 years behind bars, this person?

00:13:31.000 Why Why did the perpetrator not get 30 years behind bars, which is what you would get for, you know, attempting to murder a sitting Supreme Court justice?

00:13:37.000 The answer is that the person who attempted the murder here now considers himself trans.

00:13:44.000 And the entire media, they're going along with this.

00:13:47.000 The entire media are now claiming that the Kavanaugh would-be assassin is a woman.

00:13:52.000 I am not even kidding you.

00:13:54.000 They're using female pronouns, right?

00:13:56.000 You must respect the pronouns of the person who claims to be a woman.

00:13:59.000 I gotta say, women are getting real violent these days.

00:14:01.000 Like shockingly violent.

00:14:03.000 I never would have expected, for example, a woman to be the person who tried to kill Brett Kavanaugh.

00:14:08.000 And that's because it wasn't a woman.

00:14:09.000 But here is the headline from NBC News.

00:14:12.000 Woman sentenced to eight years for attempting to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh.

00:14:18.000 Woman.

00:14:19.000 Okay, now I'm just going to point out not a woman.

00:14:23.000 Not a woman.

00:14:24.000 The first paragraphs, quote, a woman who pled guilty to attempting to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh three years ago, was sentenced Friday to more than eight years in prison.

00:14:32.000 Sophie Roskey, now 29, was arrested near Kavanaugh's home in June and told officials at the time that she intended to kill the associate justice, then herself.

00:14:42.000 She appeared in court on Friday for her sentencing in a yellow jail jumpsuit.

00:14:46.000 Now, why exactly is this is this relevant?

00:14:50.000 Well, the reason this is relevant is because the judge in this case, U.S. District Court judge, Deborah Boardman, gave this man 97 months in prison, saying she felt that Roski has shown remorse for her actions, according to NBC News.

00:15:05.000 The judge also ordered that Roskey, whom she referred to as a transgender woman, needed a lifetime of supervised release.

00:15:13.000 And the judge admitted, full out, that one of the reasons for the lenient sentence was the trans status.

00:15:20.000 That that was one of the reasons.

00:15:22.000 Boardman said that Roski will be housed in a male-only Bureau of Prisons facility and says she took that into consideration when considering the severity of the sentence.

00:15:30.000 So, good new rule for murderers.

00:15:32.000 If you are a murderer or an attempted murderer and you wish for a lower sentence, simply claim that you are a woman, and then talk about the hardship of having to be in a male-only prison, and they will let you out early so that you, a man, don't have to be with the other men in the prison because you claim that you are a woman.

00:15:48.000 This is well below federal sentencing guidelines.

00:15:52.000 Quote, this is an atypical defendant and an atypical case.

00:15:56.000 Though she got far too close to executing her plans, the fact remains she abandoned them.

00:16:00.000 Sophie Roski's admission of guilt and effort to come clean did not occur after or even because she was caught in the act by police.

00:16:06.000 If she had not called 911, law enforcement would never have known about Sophie Rosky and her plot to kill a Supreme Court justice.

00:16:14.000 Just amazing, amazing stuff here.

00:16:17.000 So again, the here you have a person who literally attempted to kill a Supreme Court justice, and the person is going to get a lower than recommended sentence because he is claiming to be a she.

00:16:29.000 This is the way that apparently the mainstream left now thinks this person is a victim in some way.

00:16:36.000 Now we should also remember that the reason that someone tried to assassinate Justice Brad Kavanaugh is because someone inside the Supreme Court leaked the draft opinion overturning Roe v.

00:16:45.000 Wade in Dobbs months early.

00:16:47.000 And somehow, supposedly, they still haven't caught the person.

00:16:50.000 I guarantee you somebody knows who leaked that.

00:16:53.000 I guarantee you, somebody knows who leaked that.

00:16:57.000 Undoubtedly, it was some staff member in the Supreme Court building who was for one of the left-wing justices in an attempt to create precisely the kind of pressure that led to the assassination attempt.

00:17:08.000 Okay, meanwhile, speaking of permission structures for violence, it's a big weekend for this.

00:17:13.000 Apparently, there is an attempt to attack ICE agents over in Chicago.

00:17:20.000 And the situation got pretty dang fraught.

00:17:23.000 It got pretty fraught in Chicago, where a group of people legitimately mobilized to attack ICE agents.

00:17:35.000 This, of course, led to Chicago and the state of Illinois attempting to claim that it was actually the fault of President Trump.

00:17:43.000 The actual story here is apparently that a group of people mobilized in organized fashion in order to attack members of immigration and customs enforcement.

00:17:55.000 According to the Department of Homeland Security quote this morning, Border Patrol law enforcement officers were Ambushed by domestic terrorists that rammed federal agents with their vehicles.

00:18:03.000 The woman, Meramar Martinez, driving one of the vehicles was armed with a semi-automatic weapon and has a history of doxing federal agents.

00:18:10.000 She took defensive fire from CBP agents and has been discharged from the hospital and is currently in the custody of the FBI.

00:18:17.000 The driver of another vehicle, Anthony Ian Santos Ruiz, involved in the ramming, has been apprehended by law enforcement.

00:18:22.000 The scene became increasingly violent as more domestic terrorists gathered and began throwing smoke, gas, rocks, and bottles at DHS law enforcement.

00:18:29.000 Another domestic terrorist was assaulted, was arrested for assaulting CBP at the scene.

00:18:33.000 Following J.B. Pritzker's refusal to allow local police to help secure the scene.

00:18:38.000 Secretary Gnome has deployed special operations teams to restore law and order.

00:18:42.000 As our ICE law enforcement was responding to the shooting, a domestic terrorist followed them and rammed their vehicle in an attempt to run them off the road.

00:18:48.000 This individual has also been arrested as an and is in HSI custody.

00:18:53.000 An ICE vehicle popped a tire and was subsequently mobbed by domestic terrorists, forcing law enforcement to abandon the vehicle for their own safety.

00:18:59.000 The vehicle was significantly damaged.

00:19:01.000 Several CBP law enforcement officers were sent to the hospital with various injuries.

00:19:05.000 This is an organized terrorist assault on agents of Border Patrol and ICE.

00:19:11.000 Again, egged on by the left.

00:19:13.000 I mentioned the movie at the end of last week, One Battle After Another, which is basically about glorifying this specific kind of activity.

00:19:22.000 The movie literally opens with a raid on an ice facility.

00:19:26.000 And I understand that's a piece of entertainment.

00:19:28.000 I get it.

00:19:33.000 That if you are doing the brave work of resisting federal law enforcement in the enforcement of the law, somehow this makes you a hero.

00:19:40.000 And not only that, the true villain is the person enforcing the law.

00:19:44.000 This has been the case made by rotund governor of Illinois, J.B. Pritzker, who said the feds need to get the heck out of Chicago.

00:19:50.000 Well, you know, they might not be in Chicago in the first place if you just let them do their job.

00:19:55.000 And if you inhibited people from violently assaulting officers, let me just say that the Secretary doesn't know what she's talking about.

00:20:02.000 She frankly says that people are clapping.

00:20:06.000 They're not.

00:20:06.000 They're booing her on the street, and they're booing ICE and CBP.

00:20:11.000 They're marching the CBP marching uh on a beautiful Sunday uh in uh uh Michigan Avenue in downtown Chicago.

00:20:19.000 Uh they're raiding neighborhoods where instead of going after the bad guys, they're just picking up people who are brown and black and then checking their credentials.

00:20:28.000 Are you a U.S. citizen?

00:20:30.000 I don't know about you, but I don't carry around papers that say I'm a U.S. citizen.

00:20:34.000 So you can imagine people are getting detained, they're getting arrested, U.S. citizens.

00:20:38.000 And they did this, of course, when they raided a building in the middle of the night in South Shore.

00:20:43.000 130 people that were emptied out of this building.

00:20:46.000 They were going after a few gang members.

00:20:49.000 And instead, they broke windows, they broke down doors, they ransacked the place, and there were people that were held, I mean, elderly people and children zip tied.

00:20:58.000 Elderly people held for three hours at a time.

00:21:01.000 They are the ones that are making it a war zone.

00:21:04.000 They need to get out of Chicago if they're not going to focus on the worst of the worst, which is what the president said they were going to do.

00:21:11.000 They need to get the heck out.

00:21:13.000 So they need to get out of Chicago.

00:21:16.000 Not the people who are violating the law, the people who are attempting to keep the law are the ones who need to get the heck out of Chicago, according to J.B. Pritzker, who's also very upset because the president has said that he wants to use National Guard troops perhaps to quell the violence in Chicago against law enforcement officers.

00:21:32.000 Pritzker put out a statement saying that Trump had given him an ultimatum that he was going to federalize the troops, and he said, Well, you know, it's absolutely outrageous.

00:21:41.000 It's just terrible.

00:21:42.000 Why is it that you have more ire for the people enforcing the law than the people violating the law?

00:21:47.000 Why?

00:21:48.000 And the answer has to do with a permission structure for violence.

00:21:52.000 Meanwhile, Gregory Bovino, who's one of the top agents spearheading President Trump's crackdown on illegal immigration, blasted both Pritzker and Chicago mayor at Brandon Johnson for feeding violence against Border Patrol and ICE agents.

00:22:04.000 Here he was explaining.

00:22:05.000 Those individuals like the governor or the mayor, they feed violence.

00:22:12.000 They foment this violence, and I kind of scratched my head as to why they would do that, but they are actually feeding this violence and trying to get people hurt.

00:22:20.000 I wonder if they actually want border patrol agents and ICE officers hurt.

00:22:25.000 At this point, I've almost came to that conclusion.

00:22:28.000 It's a sad fact, but They continually, they continually banter that rhetoric around.

00:22:35.000 And I've not heard anything on the suspects that we've arrested the bad people and bad things that we've arrested by the thousands.

00:22:43.000 I know they said it was 800.

00:22:44.000 It's over a thousand arrests now in Chicago.

00:22:47.000 Just yesterday I was with Secretary Gnome.

00:22:50.000 We arrested an aggravated felon who had spent three years in prison for a firearms offense, walking the streets with immunity.

00:22:58.000 What does the what does the governor have to say about that?

00:23:00.000 You never hear them say anything about that.

00:23:02.000 That's awfully concerning to me.

00:23:05.000 And Secretary Gnome herself says, Listen, anybody who attacks federal agents will be hunted down and jailed.

00:23:10.000 here was the secretary.

00:23:11.000 We're going to go out there and we're going to make sure that there's consequences for the way that they're behaving.

00:23:17.000 And if we're going to prosecute them, we're going to bring them to justice, and we're not taking this anymore.

00:23:21.000 All right, coming up, more permission structures for violence from the left, ranging from London to Portland first.

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00:25:45.000 Meanwhile, in Portland, lawlessness continues to be a way of life.

00:25:50.000 A video emerged of a journalist named Nick Sorter.

00:25:54.000 He's a pro-maga journalist, and he appeared on Fox News to explain that he actually was physically assaulted while he was covering another one of these Antifa protests.

00:26:04.000 And then he walked over to the cops and he was promptly arrested for his trouble.

00:26:08.000 This is the video of him being shoved around for the great crime of, you know, walking around and not being a radical leftist.

00:26:13.000 *Squeak*

00:26:19.000 He's just walking down the street.

00:26:21.000 He's does he's obviously not attempting to do anything violent.

00:26:26.000 Tubby Batman over here with his uh with his mask on.

00:26:30.000 Starts trying to shove him around.

00:26:37.000 They shove him into a a bit of a bit of a pit.

00:26:42.000 Start yelling at him.

00:26:44.000 And unfortunately, this sort of violence has become fairly commonplace in Portland.

00:26:49.000 Sorter told Fox News, nobody can take that video and say I was the aggressor in that situation, simply trying to walk down the sidewalk with my camera.

00:26:56.000 I'm actually walking in my car at the time.

00:26:58.000 They jumped in the way, they blocked me, they Start surrounding me.

00:27:01.000 I keep trying to walk around them.

00:27:02.000 They continue to push me, and then eventually one of them throws a punch.

00:27:04.000 And then he says he went over to the police, and seven or eight minutes later, a sergeant walks up and points to me and says to the officers, Cuff him.

00:27:10.000 No reason given.

00:27:11.000 The officers didn't know what they were doing.

00:27:14.000 And sorter said, Listen, the officers, rank and file officers, they don't do anything unless they're given a direct order by one of their superiors.

00:27:21.000 So somebody was telling somebody to arrest me.

00:27:24.000 Meanwhile, the left continues to maintain that Portland must remain a federal law enforcement free zone.

00:27:30.000 And this goes back years at this point.

00:27:31.000 You remember during BLM when Antifa was attacking courthouses in Portland, and federal officers at that point were put in the courthouse in Portland to protect the courthouse.

00:27:41.000 Well, meanwhile, federal judges are claiming that it's somehow a gigantic sin to mobilize the Oregon National Guard in Portland.

00:27:50.000 The judge said, quote, this country has a long-standing and foundational tradition of resistance to government overreach, especially in the form of military intrusion into civil life.

00:27:59.000 This is a nation of constitutional law, not martial law.

00:28:02.000 Well, what happens if the locality refuses to protect law enforcement officers in the pursuit of their duty?

00:28:10.000 Stephen Miller, the deputy wisehouse chief of staff, he then put out a statement on X quote legal insurrection.

00:28:16.000 The president is the commander in chief of the armed forces, not an Oregon judge.

00:28:19.000 Portland and Oregon law enforcement, at the direction of local leaders, have refused to aid ICE officers facing relentless terrorist assault and threats to life.

00:28:26.000 There are more local law enforcement officers in Oregon than there are guns and badges in the FBI nationwide.

00:28:31.000 This is an organized terrorist attack on the federal government and its officers, and the deployment of troops is an absolute necessity to defend our personnel, our laws, our government, public order, and the republic itself.

00:28:41.000 And again, there is a question here as to what exactly is federal law enforcement being instructed to do that is beyond their remit.

00:28:49.000 Legally speaking, what law enforcement is being asked to do on the federal level is protect other law enforcement in the pursuit of their federally authorized duty.

00:28:58.000 And that is being inhibited by judges, it's being inhibited by democratic lawmakers, and it's being treated as some sort of act of heroism to resist federal law enforcement that is attempting to enforce immigration law.

00:29:13.000 And again, this all ties in to a broader willingness on the radical left to wink, nod, and massage those who are willing to do radical violence.

00:29:21.000 Van Jones, who obviously is not of the right, but is one of the only honest people on the left these days.

00:29:27.000 He was on Bill Maher on Friday night, and he torched Democrats over their response to Charlie Kirk's assassination.

00:29:32.000 I was very frustrated, people in my party throwing rocks at the corpse before he could even be buried.

00:29:39.000 Blood still on the widow's shoes, and people want to post every dumb thing he ever said.

00:29:43.000 He was 31-year-old kid.

00:29:44.000 Right.

00:29:45.000 If you got me at 31 years old, I was on the left side of Pluto.

00:29:48.000 There is no telling what you would have had me say.

00:29:52.000 So let's give some grace and some space, even to our enemies.

00:29:56.000 We're going to have this way.

00:29:56.000 I mean, Van Jones, of course, is exactly right about all of this.

00:30:01.000 I mean, the immense amount of sympathy for the killer, an attempt by the media to turn the killer into some sort of romantic lead in a terrible knockoff of Dog Day Afternoon.

00:30:13.000 An amazing, amazing thing.

00:30:15.000 And this again is because, as we've been talking about for weeks, the left wing has fully fleshed out permission structures for violence.

00:30:22.000 And those permission structures for violence exist in a wide variety of forms in resistance to ICE, in resistance to federal law enforcement, and yes, in support for Hamas, in support of a Palestinian terrorist state.

00:30:36.000 There's a journalist named Matthew Syed, who was in London for a gigantic protest in Trefalgar Square, where police arrested 493 people.

00:30:46.000 And he writes, in the UK Times, I asked a simple question in a pro-Palestine protest and it turned ugly.

00:30:52.000 And here's what he writes.

00:30:53.000 Because you have to understand, you know, in Lines and Scavengers, I talk about the coalition of scavengers who just changed the flag at the front of the parade, but it's the same coalition.

00:31:02.000 And whether they are going around arguing for global Marxism, or whether they're going around arguing on behalf of terrorist groups, it's the same group of people.

00:31:09.000 It's why Greta Thunbrook just changes hats.

00:31:11.000 She goes from global warming to global Marxism to free Gaza in a nanosecond.

00:31:18.000 And it doesn't matter, because the hat is the same.

00:31:20.000 Western civilization sucks, and I'm willing to side with anybody who believes that Western civilization has to be uprooted.

00:31:27.000 Here's what Syed writes: quote, let me transport you into The heart of London, Trafalgar Square, no less, in a nation that likes to pride itself on tolerance, the rule of law, and mutual respect.

00:31:35.000 There is a circle of people on the lower tier of the square, under the shadow of the National Gallery, surrounding a few hundred more holding placards, proclaiming support for Palestine Action, a prescribed terror organization.

00:31:46.000 I approach a group of three women, perhaps in their fifties, brown skinned British accents, and one of them recognizes me.

00:31:51.000 You're that journalist, Matthew Syed.

00:31:53.000 Yes, can you talk?

00:31:54.000 They assent.

00:31:55.000 So I ask what I take to be a fair-minded question to elicit their position and why they are here.

00:31:59.000 Quote, who do you blame for what is unfolding in Gaza?

00:32:01.000 Do you think Hamas bears any responsibility?

00:32:04.000 For the avoidance of doubts, I had rights, that was the extent of my question.

00:32:07.000 I didn't say anything else about Hamas, that their founding charter is committed to the killing of Jews, that they've consistently said they wish to commit October 7th style atrocities again and again, that they are funded by Iran, which wishes to expunge Israel from the pages of history, that the mullahs have sometimes insinuated that Muslims have a duty to kill Jews wherever they are found.

00:32:24.000 Perhaps, who knows, the inspiration for a man called Jihad, born to a Syrian father who described the Hamas attackers as, quote, men of God on earth attempting mass murder in Manchester.

00:32:34.000 No, all I asked was, is Hamas partially responsible?

00:32:37.000 Here's what happened next, as their friendly faces turn to, well, something else.

00:32:41.000 Go away, one said.

00:32:42.000 Go away.

00:32:42.000 You are a bad faith actor.

00:32:44.000 We don't want to talk to you.

00:32:45.000 Just F off.

00:32:46.000 It's a really boring old line.

00:32:47.000 You are disgusting.

00:32:48.000 And he said, I am disgusting.

00:32:49.000 Yes, you are disgusting.

00:32:50.000 You are not a journalist.

00:32:51.000 It is very clear what your position is here.

00:32:53.000 Now their voices were getting louder.

00:32:54.000 Piss off.

00:32:55.000 Thanks for your time.

00:32:56.000 I appreciate it, I said retreating, but they were not finished.

00:32:58.000 What are you doing here anyway?

00:33:00.000 You are prejudiced.

00:33:00.000 Hopefully nobody will ever buy a book you write.

00:33:02.000 You are a charlatan.

00:33:03.000 You are an effing racist.

00:33:05.000 Now again, notice the victim mentality in the scavengers.

00:33:09.000 They are asked a simple question.

00:33:10.000 Who bears responsibility for what's happening in Gaza?

00:33:13.000 Does Hamas bear any responsibility considering they started the war, refused to surrender, and still have not given up the hostages, despite their lip service to the idea of a deal.

00:33:23.000 These people consider themselves the victims.

00:33:25.000 And if you criticize them, you are a racist.

00:33:28.000 You are victimizing them.

00:33:29.000 You are doing them verbal violence.

00:33:31.000 Syed writes, those surrounding us started to join in.

00:33:33.000 Well said, sister.

00:33:34.000 Yeah, well said.

00:33:35.000 Others in the enclosure began to applaud.

00:33:37.000 I noticed a tall man with a Palestine flag a few meters away, and he pointed at me, although I wasn't sure why.

00:33:41.000 A younger woman approached and said, I have seen you all afternoon trying to get a rise from people.

00:33:45.000 I only asked if Hamas is partly responsible.

00:33:48.000 Is that so very provocative?

00:33:49.000 You are here to cause trouble and you are going to get trouble, she said.

00:33:52.000 Syed says, I wish I could tell you this was a one-off, but I spoke to at least two dozen people, and with two exceptions, including a lovely black guy from North London, who conversed intelligently and politely, the motivation for being here was obvious, potent, and implacable.

00:34:04.000 The hatred of Jews.

00:34:06.000 I heard conspiracy theories.

00:34:07.000 October 7th was a false flag operation, blood libels, and the pervasive view that the Manchester atrocity was not a heinous attack, but righteous comeuppance for an evil people.

00:34:17.000 My sense is that many felt liberated to say what they really thought by the proximity of like-minded others, the classic symptom of mob mentality.

00:34:24.000 Syed says what perhaps struck me the most was the vivid contrast between the ostensibly peaceful nature of the protests, holding flags, going limp when they went arrested, so they had to be lifted by four officers at a time, and the latent violence of their views.

00:34:36.000 As police carried off an elderly protester I'd talked to a little earlier, and who was convinced of the virtue of his hateful opinions, protesters protesters started shouting at the young officers, shame on you.

00:34:45.000 But are they not following the instruction of a democratically elected government, even if you disagree with it, and upholding the rule of law?

00:34:51.000 F democracy, F the police.

00:34:54.000 You perhaps won't be surprised, Syed said, to hear that most were virulently left wing.

00:34:59.000 I almost felt like crying as another anonymous hater, perhaps twenty-two, white middle class accent, started to lecture me about intersectionality and colonialist oppression.

00:35:06.000 It was like woke bingo.

00:35:08.000 I couldn't help asking about the oppression of women in Gaza, but her face went blank.

00:35:11.000 How the FDU knows women are treated badly.

00:35:14.000 Er Amnesty International.

00:35:16.000 This momentarily phased her.

00:35:17.000 She couldn't quite place amnesty in the institutional framework of the Jew funded global conspiracy.

00:35:21.000 But she recovered quickly.

00:35:23.000 Well, I haven't read about that, but I have read about Jewish occupation and genocide.

00:35:28.000 Syed says, How did protesters who weep for Gazans feel about the prospect of the killing ending?

00:35:34.000 Because of course, there may be a peace deal any moment.

00:35:38.000 I can assert that almost nobody I spoke to showed the slightest interest.

00:35:41.000 I haven't kept up with that one.

00:35:42.000 I haven't read about it.

00:35:43.000 If Netanyahu signed up, it must be awful.

00:35:45.000 But surely it's a good thing if it brings an end to the slaughter, he said, hesitation.

00:35:49.000 But it won't be a just peace.

00:35:52.000 I left Trafalgar Square even more convinced.

00:35:54.000 The government has demonstrated criminal complacency about the rise in anti-Semitism over recent years.

00:35:58.000 Now is the time for robust action.

00:36:00.000 otherwise we will see more atrocities like Manchester.

00:36:02.000 But remember, what's happening to Jews in London is happening to the West large.

00:36:06.000 You have barbarians inside our civilization, imported by people in our civilization, and then you have fellow travelers from a wide variety of causes willing to stand next to them to tear down the institutions they feel are laying them low.

00:36:20.000 That is why you have this motley crew, this bizarre agglomeration of different interest groups all marching under the flag of Hamas.

00:36:28.000 That is why.

00:36:30.000 And they could not care less.

00:36:31.000 Notice the silence about it.

00:36:37.000 In fact, the ends of the war in Gaza will be bad for them.

00:36:39.000 Because then how can they claim that the Jews are engaging in something awful?

00:36:43.000 They'll have to find somebody else to yell at, or a different way to claim that the Jews are engaged in something awful.

00:36:49.000 Because when a lot of these people mean the Jews, what they don't mean the Jews, what they actually mean is just any Western civilized power in conflict with pro-terrorist, anti-civilizational forces.

00:37:01.000 They'll just switch that hat once again.

00:37:03.000 Alrighty, coming up the latest on the Gaza plan and President Trump's involvement first.

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00:38:11.000 Meanwhile, negotiations over the end of the Gaza war continue.

00:38:14.000 Now that wasn't supposed to happen.

00:38:15.000 If you recall back to last week, the president delivered an ultimatum alongside the Prime Minister of Israel.

00:38:19.000 The ultimatum was basically a 21-point plan.

00:38:22.000 And if that plan was not accepted in full, then Israel would go in and finish the job in Gaza City.

00:38:27.000 Israel, right now, is occupying and has militarily cleared a large majority of Gaza City.

00:38:33.000 There are a few square blocks that are remaining.

00:38:35.000 Presumably that is where Hamas is sort of hold out for its end stand.

00:38:38.000 And Israel has paused in place because the president has asked Israel to do that at this point.

00:38:43.000 The president is very optimistic about some sort of deal.

00:38:46.000 Hamas seems to be playing a game of yes but, which is smart.

00:38:50.000 I mean, they're evil, but they're not stupid.

00:38:52.000 And so Hamas has been playing a game where they say, yes, we are totally for that deal.

00:38:55.000 But here are 27 different changes we want to the deal.

00:38:58.000 And the question becomes at what point everybody on the other side, meaning America, Israel, and everyone else who has been on board with the original deal gets up and walks away from the table.

00:39:07.000 And the onus is on Qatar and Turkey.

00:39:10.000 I understand that the main players here are Israel and Hamas.

00:39:13.000 But understand, Hamas can only be cudgeled into some sort of deal here by Qatar, its sponsor state, and Turkey, its other sponsor state.

00:39:22.000 Both of those states have been holding up Hamas for years.

00:39:25.000 Qatar has been providing billions of dollars to Hamas.

00:39:29.000 There's a reason that Hamas's leadership felt safe in Qatar up until precisely the moment Israel fired a missile at them in Qatar.

00:39:36.000 You don't have to take my word for it when it comes to Qatari support for Hamas.

00:39:40.000 I asked our friends and sponsors over at Comet, a project of perplexity.

00:39:44.000 How much financial support has Qatar provided to Hamas since 2005?

00:39:48.000 The answer, Qatar has provided an estimated 1.8 billion dollars in financial support to Hamas run Gaza since 2005.

00:39:55.000 This funding has included both direct cash payments and material assistance, such as fuel, with regularly monthly transfers reaching $30 million per month at times, and occasional large pledges for reconstruction and aid projects.

00:40:08.000 According to Comet, the aid has periodically included annual commitments such as a 400 million dollar pledge in 2012 and a 360 million dollar annual pledge from 2021, monthly cash transfers, around 30 million dollars per month from 2018 onwards, and emergency grants.

00:40:23.000 And from 2007 to 2014, Qatar's financing was mostly independent, sometimes through secret or informal channels outside International oversight.

00:40:31.000 A significant portion of Qatari assistance is delivered as fuel, which Hamas then sells for cash and has humanitarian aid that is controlled or dispersed by Hamas.

00:40:40.000 So yes, Qatar has been and remains the number one supporter of Hamas.

00:40:44.000 Turkey, meanwhile, has become a safe haven for members of Hamas who have left the Gaza Strip for medical treatment.

00:40:50.000 Turkey and Qatar are the ones who have the capacity to turn the screws on Hamas and get to a deal.

00:40:55.000 This was true October 8th as well.

00:40:56.000 It is why the policy that I advocated, literally days after October 7th, that could have avoided nearly everything that has happened in the Gaza Strip, would have been the United States going to Qatar and saying the military base goes away unless Qatar forces Hamas to release all of the hostages and its leadership to go into exile.

00:41:11.000 That would have short-circuited the entire war.

00:41:14.000 But Qatar was unwilling to do that because, of course, Qatar plays both sides.

00:41:17.000 At a certain point, Qatar is going to have to be held to account for its clients in Hamas.

00:41:23.000 At a certain point, I understand that we are trying to forge a warm relationship with Qatar.

00:41:28.000 I understand that we have an air base there.

00:41:30.000 And also that the United States has an interest, presumably, in Qatar acting as a mediator.

00:41:35.000 But Qatar is not an honest broker.

00:41:38.000 And at a certain point, either Qatar can get it done or they can't get it done.

00:41:41.000 We just signed a mutual defense agreement, which effectively means that if Iran or Israel or anybody else attacks Qatar, the United States has to come to the defense of Qatar.

00:41:49.000 One question are you willing to die for Doha?

00:41:52.000 Is one of those questions.

00:41:53.000 But beyond that, the screws need to be put to Qatar and Turkey to actually fulfill their pledge here.

00:41:59.000 If they can get it done, then they should get it done.

00:42:01.000 Because Hamas keeps getting squirrely.

00:42:03.000 Hamas is now demanding the release of arch terror masters, people who are effectively like Yachya Sinwar, the former head of Hamas who was killed by Israeli forces after masterminding October 7th.

00:42:15.000 Hamas is now asking for the release of somebody like Marwan Bargudi, who of course is a terrorist mastermind who would immediately take leadership of whatever the newest terrorist cell is in the Gaza Strip or Judea and Samaria, the so-called West Bank.

00:42:26.000 Hamas keeps trying to change the terms of the deal.

00:42:29.000 And the president has made clear over and over and over again that either it's going to be a deal or Israel is going to have free reign to go in and finish the job in Gaza City.

00:42:38.000 And then the implementation of the Trump peace plan will just happen whether Hamas likes it or not.

00:42:42.000 And if the hostages are still being held, the Hamas plan still will be put into place.

00:42:47.000 Hamas will be defenestrated as a military group.

00:42:50.000 It will be worse for Israel because Israel won't get the hostages back, but it will also be worse for Hamas because no one from Hamas will survive in the end.

00:42:58.000 The president on Saturday told Axios, quote, we are close to a peace deal in Gaza.

00:43:02.000 He said, Bibi, this is your chance for victory.

00:43:05.000 He was fine with it, Trump said.

00:43:06.000 He's got to be fine with it.

00:43:07.000 He has no choice with me.

00:43:08.000 You gotta be fine.

00:43:09.000 Now, President Trump is pushing very hard because he believes that this is the opening.

00:43:14.000 President Trump said we had great receptivity for our plan.

00:43:16.000 Every country of the world in favor, BB is in favor, Hamas went a long way, they want to do it.

00:43:20.000 Now we will need to close it.

00:43:22.000 Trump said that Turkish president recipient type Erdogan, who's about to receive a bunch of F 35s from the United States.

00:43:27.000 I think that is that is a bad idea considering the Islamist nature of the regime in Turkey.

00:43:33.000 But he says that Erdogan was, quote, very helpful in pressing Hamas to move forward.

00:43:36.000 Erdogan helped a lot.

00:43:37.000 He's a tough guy, but he's a friend of mine, and he was great.

00:43:39.000 Okay, fine.

00:43:40.000 Well, if these are friends of the United States, then they ought to do the work.

00:43:44.000 The onus is on Qatar and Turkey to get to the end of the process here because they're the only ones truly who can force Hamas to end this process.

00:43:51.000 They are the only allies that Hamas effectively has left.

00:43:54.000 President Trump is very optimistic.

00:43:56.000 Yesterday he spoke to the press in a bit of a gaggle, and he said, a lot of countries surrounding Israel are pushing.

00:44:02.000 It looks like it's working.

00:44:03.000 That line for Hamas to release the Hospital.

00:44:05.000 Yeah, we're gonna very quickly.

00:44:07.000 We had some very good meetings.

00:44:10.000 The countries of the world, a lot of the countries surrounding Israel, frankly, uh Muslim, Arab, and many others, have had great meetings with Hamas.

00:44:21.000 And it looks like it's working.

00:44:22.000 So we'll wait for a little while, see how it all turns out.

00:44:25.000 Will the administration begin firing federal?

00:44:27.000 I think it'll work very, very quickly.

00:44:28.000 I think it's going to go very quickly.

00:44:30.000 The meeting seems to be very good.

00:44:31.000 We'll find out.

00:44:32.000 We'll let you know soon.

00:44:33.000 Now, listen, there is tremendous optimism, certainly on the Israeli side that the hostages will come home, which has become the number one priority of the Israelis.

00:44:41.000 The question is what they're willing to do to get the Hostages.

00:44:44.000 Are they willing to effectively lose the war?

00:44:46.000 Are they willing to guarantee some sort of cordon where the Israeli military will not be the guaranteeing security force?

00:44:52.000 And what exactly is the deal?

00:44:54.000 The president has put one out there that would have Israel drawing back to a line that's a couple of Miles from the Mediterranean Sea.

00:45:02.000 A line that they were holding a few months back, drawing outside of Gaza City in exchange for the hostages, and then Hamas giving up its weaponry, Hamas not being a part of the future governing body of whatever takes place next.

00:45:15.000 Tony Blair is, of course, supposed to be one of the people who's deeply involved in that governing body, a transitional authority that would also be run by the UAE, by Saudi, Qatar presumably would be involved in that way.

00:45:28.000 So the deal is still taking shape.

00:45:30.000 The question, as with any deal, is when are you willing to get up and walk away from the table?

00:45:34.000 If Hamas is just screwing around here, buying time for themselves to re-arm, if Hamas is just trying to draw this out in order to win some sort of misbegotten PR victory.

00:45:43.000 Well, they're gonna have another thing coming.

00:45:46.000 Because the reality is, if a deal does not get done, the IDF is going to go in and finish the job.

00:45:50.000 The president has made this very clear, by the way.

00:45:52.000 The president put out a statement.

00:45:53.000 Quote, there have been very positive discussions with Hamas and countries from all over the world, Arab, Muslim, everywhere else.

00:46:00.000 This weekend to release the hostages and the war in Gaza, but more importantly, finally have long sought peace in the Middle East.

00:46:05.000 These talks have been very successful and proceeding rapidly.

00:46:08.000 The technical teams will again meet on Monday in Egypt to work through and clarify the final details.

00:46:12.000 I am told the first phase should be completed this week, and I'm asking everyone to move fast.

00:46:17.000 I will continue to monitor the centuries-old conflict.

00:46:19.000 Time is of the essence, or massive bloodshed will follow, something that nobody wants to see.

00:46:25.000 The president also told CNN that Hamas faces, quote, complete obliteration.

00:46:30.000 If the group refuses to cede power and control of Gaza, that is what he told Jake Tapper on Saturday, if Hamas insists on staying in power.

00:46:38.000 Tapper pressed the president on Hamas's response to his 20-point ceasefire proposal, citing Lindsay Graham's interpretation that Hamas had effectively rejected the plan by insisting on no disarmament, keeping Gaza under Palestinian control and tying hostage release to negotiations.

00:46:52.000 And Tapper said, Is he wrong?

00:46:53.000 And Trump responded, we will find out.

00:46:55.000 Only time will tell.

00:46:56.000 The president says he expects clarity soon on whether Hamas is genuinely committed to peace.

00:47:01.000 And he was asked if Prime Minister Netanyahu is on board with ending the campaign in Gaza and supporting the president's broader vision.

00:47:08.000 And he said yes on Bibi.

00:47:11.000 Speaking of which, here is the Prime Minister of Israel saying that they are on the brink of a deal to end the war.

00:47:19.000 This was the Prime Minister on Saturday night.

00:47:22.000 We are on the verge of a very big achievement.

00:47:24.000 It's not final yet, but I hope that in the coming days, during the Sukkot holiday, I will be able to announce to you the return of all the hostages in one phase while the IDF remains deep inside the strip in the territories that control it.

00:47:38.000 Thanks to the great support I received from you, citizens of Israel, and thanks to the bravery of our fighters, I stood up to enormous pressure from home and abroad to stop the war and to give in to Hamas'dictates.

00:47:50.000 You know what would have happened then.

00:47:52.000 We would have left Gaza having achieved almost nothing.

00:47:55.000 Okay, so that that is a translation of what the Prime Minister is saying.

00:47:58.000 He, of course, you'd recognize his voice.

00:47:59.000 He is speaking in Hebrew there.

00:48:01.000 And so that is the translation of his statements.

00:48:03.000 Meanwhile, the Secretary of State Marco Rubio appeared on Meet the Press on NBC on Sunday, and he said, listen, if Hamas remains in control, then this whole thing has been for naught.

00:48:13.000 You can't launch something like October 7th and expect to remain in control.

00:48:20.000 We don't forget what happened on October 7th.

00:48:22.000 That's the other thing the president repeatedly points to is remember October 7th.

00:48:26.000 But the implic whether we agree with it or not, we have seen the impact that this has had on Israel's global standing.

00:48:32.000 And I think that's the point the president is making here is that whether you believe it was justified or not, right or not, that we you cannot ignore the impact that this has had on Israel's global standing.

00:48:42.000 That said, if we never want to see this happen again, meaning a war like this, you can never have another October 7th or anything like it ever happen again.

00:48:50.000 And that's the thing the president has reiterated and repeatedly uh made clear to our partners in the region, and that is if you truly want peace and stability and a better future for the Palestinian people, then there has to be a Gaza that is not governed or controlled in any way, shape, or form by Hamas or anything that looks like Hamas.

00:49:08.000 Now, again, there's a lack of clarity at the moment as to what the shape of the final deal will look like here.

00:49:12.000 It is quite possible that Hamas is screwing around again, because we have heard preliminary deals announced many, many times over the course of this conflict to freeze certain numbers of hostages.

00:49:21.000 And of course, that is not exclusive to this part of the world.

00:49:23.000 We saw talk about an Iran nuclear deal that never took shape because Iran was lying.

00:49:27.000 We've seen talk about a a deal in Ukraine and Russia, in which Vladimir Putin was lying.

00:49:31.000 So it would not be a shock if Hamas is lying, trying to draw this out, kind of the final measure of torture for the Israeli population and for a United States and the Arab world, by the way, that wants to get to the end of all of this.

00:49:42.000 The secretary of state did say that Hamas has at this point agreed to the framework.

00:49:47.000 I would view it in two phases in terms of understanding how to break this out.

00:49:51.000 The first piece of it, which is very clear from the letter and Hamas's response, is they have agreed to the president's hostage release framework.

00:49:58.000 And what needs to happen now, and they acknowledge in the letter and their responses, there now needs to be meetings which are occurring even as I speak to you now.

00:50:05.000 And hopefully will be finalized very quickly on the logistics of that.

00:50:09.000 What that means is, you know, who goes in to get them?

00:50:11.000 Is it Red Cross?

00:50:12.000 You know, when do they show up, etc.?

00:50:14.000 You know, what place are they going to be?

00:50:15.000 And the conditions have to be created for that to happen.

00:50:18.000 You know, you can't have bombs going off and fighting going on in the middle of this exchange.

00:50:21.000 So that's piece one.

00:50:22.000 The second, and we want to see that happen as soon as possible.

00:50:25.000 All 48 hostages, both living and deceased, and there's some need to be released, and there's some logistical challenges to that that we'll have to work through.

00:50:32.000 But that work is happening even as I speak to you this very moment.

00:50:35.000 The second part of it, it's even harder, and that is the long-term peace.

00:50:39.000 What happens after Israel pulls back to the yellow line and potentially beyond that at as this thing develops?

00:50:44.000 How do you create this Palestinian technocratic leadership that's not Hamas, that's not terrorists, and with the help of the international community?

00:50:54.000 How do you disarm any sort of terrorist groups that are going to be building tunnels and conducting attacks against Israel?

00:51:00.000 How do you get them to demobilize?

00:51:02.000 All that work, that's going to be hard, but that's critical because without that, you're not going to have lasting peace.

00:51:06.000 You may get the hostages back, you may get a cessation of hostilities, but in the long term it's going to happen all over again.

00:51:12.000 So both are going on at the same time.

00:51:14.000 But priority number one, the one that we think we can achieve something very quickly on, hopefully, is the release of all of the hostages in exchange for Israel moving back to that yellow line, which is basically where they stood at the middle part of last month or uh of August.

00:51:29.000 And um, and that's the one we're focused on.

00:51:31.000 Even as I speak to you now, there are people meeting on that.

00:51:34.000 Okay, so that is the deal the United States wishes to pursue, that Israel wishes to pursue, that achieves the war goals of Israel, and that also frees the hostages.

00:51:43.000 Now the question is what Hamas is going to attempt to link to that?

00:51:46.000 Because what Hamas knows, just on a pure negotiation basis here, is that the minute the hostages are out, they basically lose their leverage.

00:51:52.000 And so they're trying to guarantee up front their survival, their maintenance of weapons.

00:51:56.000 They were trying to make a claim over the weekend that they want to retain their quote unquote defensive weapons.

00:52:01.000 What would that even look like?

00:52:02.000 What is a defensive weapon in the context of urban warfare?

00:52:05.000 It does not exist.

00:52:07.000 So again, they're they're getting squirrely.

00:52:09.000 It'll be interesting to see how all of this plays out.

00:52:11.000 There is tremendous optimism from the American side.

00:52:13.000 There's optimism from the Israeli side as well.

00:52:15.000 The question, I will come back to it, is will Qatar and Turkey fulfill the commitments they have made to the presidents of the United States to press Hamas to end this war.

00:52:25.000 And once again, the only people capable of ending this war are Hamas.

00:52:29.000 The ball has been in their court since October 6th.

00:52:31.000 It was in their court before October 7th.

00:52:33.000 They decided to launch October 7th.

00:52:35.000 Then they decided to do two years of war and fight a PR campaign with dead bodies created by Hamas, people who they were shielding, their weapons behind those people.

00:52:46.000 They decided to do that.

00:52:48.000 This has always been a Hamas-driven war.

00:52:51.000 Every drop of blood that has been shed is on Hamas, and that continues today.

00:52:55.000 If the war continues, that will only be because Hamas refused to end the war.

00:52:59.000 Period.

00:53:00.000 End of story.

00:53:01.000 And it will be because its allies in Qatar and Turkey refuse to do the thing they've committed to do, namely to press Hamas to actually get to the end of this war.

00:53:10.000 Meanwhile, the government shutdown continues apace.

00:53:13.000 It is being dr driven, again, by Democrat intransigence because what exactly are they seeking to gain?

00:53:19.000 A reversal of the one big beautiful bill.

00:53:21.000 Nobody really knows what they're trying to do here.

00:53:24.000 It's not playing.

00:53:25.000 First of all, nobody really feels the pressure.

00:53:27.000 Unlike the Democrats.

00:53:28.000 When when Democrats are in charge and there's a government shutdown, Democrats try to maximize the pain on the American public.

00:53:33.000 When Republicans are in charge and there's a government shutdown, Republicans try to minimize the pain on the American public.

00:53:38.000 So I'm not sure the American public is really feeling the government shutdown in any significant or severe way.

00:53:44.000 And so that means the Democrats aren't really paying a political penalty, per se, at this point.

00:53:50.000 Hakeem Jeffries continues to try to articulate some sort of rationale for why I suppose the shutdown continues.

00:53:56.000 Here is the House Minority Leader.

00:53:57.000 The House Republican partisan spending bill is a dirty piece of legislation that continues to gut the health care of the American people.

00:54:08.000 And it's riddled with toxic right wing Republican priorities because it's connected to a March 17th.

00:54:15.000 spending bill that Democrats in the House uniformly rejected.

00:54:18.000 And we rejected it significantly because of the fact that it was an attack on veterans, an attack on children, an attack on housing affordability, and certainly was an attack on health care at the time in November, in excuse me, in March of last year.

00:54:34.000 And now they just want to continue that.

00:54:37.000 So it's irresponsible in our view for Republicans in the House to continue to insist uh that they aren't trying to advance their own extreme right wing priorities.

00:54:46.000 Of course that's what they're trying to do.

00:54:48.000 They've been doing it all year.

00:54:51.000 At the same period of time, it's also irresponsible that House Republicans continue to be on vacation.

00:54:58.000 So again, the I'm just I'm confused as to what the goal here is in the end.

00:55:03.000 It doesn't seem like there's a goal except for simply catering to the left wing of the Democratic Party.

00:55:08.000 Hakeem Jeffrey says we will not be bullied, but you absolutely are being bullied, Madude.

00:55:11.000 You're being manhandled by the left wing of your party.

00:55:13.000 That's what's happening here.

00:55:15.000 Well, we are gonna continue to stand by our hard working federal civil servants.

00:55:21.000 And it's unfortunate that Donald Trump and Republicans have decided to now use them as pawns because of the Republican refusal to provide health care to working class and middle class Americans.

00:55:32.000 At the same period of time, Ali, you make a very good point.

00:55:35.000 And that's the reality.

00:55:36.000 Donald Trump, Russ Vogt, and this malignant crew that's part of this administration, they have been engaging in mass firing since January 20th.

00:55:45.000 They've been doing it outside of the context of a government shutdown.

00:55:49.000 And so to the extent that they're claiming uh that a government short shutdown may force their hand, that's just pretext for something that they've already been doing.

00:55:58.000 This is why it's important for us as Democrats, of course, to continue to hold the line on behalf of the American people, while also making it clear we'll sit down with the Republicans.

00:56:09.000 We want to find a bipartisan path forward.

00:56:11.000 It's always been done that way in the past when we found ourselves in the context of a government shutdown.

00:56:17.000 Okay, again, it it's just it's pathetic stuff.

00:56:19.000 But what this is really about in the end is who can yell the loudest among the Democrats because whoever yells the loudest is somehow considered the winner.

00:56:25.000 This is the Corey Booker strategy for leadership.

00:56:28.000 Get up there, pop in your angry eyes, and then just and then just yell a lot.

00:56:32.000 Well, one of the people who's attempting to somehow do it again is Kamala Harris.

00:56:35.000 Kamala Harris seems to want to run for president again.

00:56:37.000 She's making Go for it, lady.

00:56:40.000 And she she's making the case that the reason she lost the first time is she just didn't have enough time for the American public to get to know her.

00:56:46.000 Ignoring the fact that the more you know Kamala Harris, the less you like her.

00:56:50.000 This is the rule of Kamala Harris.

00:56:52.000 Well, apparently over the weekend, she did a book event, and she started just yelling and screaming about how Donald Trump does not have a mandate because he won a narrow election over Kamala Harris.

00:57:03.000 Well, I mean, that's that's not how electoral mandates work.

00:57:05.000 If you win, you're the president, and then you get to do the things that you're elected to do.

00:57:09.000 That's typically how it works.

00:57:10.000 Here's Kamala Harris yelling about it.

00:57:12.000 And here's the other thing that is quite untransfating.

00:57:17.000 And it was the tightest, closest presidential election in the 21st century.

00:57:27.000 He does not have a mandate.

00:57:30.000 That is not a mandate.

00:57:33.000 It's not a mandate.

00:57:38.000 Um, so I mean, if you yell that it's not a mandate, then um it doesn't change anything.

00:57:43.000 There's no constitutional provision where the loser of an election yells a lot, and then magically the mandate goes away.

00:57:49.000 And by the way, that's not even remotely true that this is the closest American election of the of the 21st century.

00:57:56.000 That's that's not true like at all, actually.

00:57:59.000 There's an incredibly close election in 2000.

00:58:01.000 It was decided by 700 votes, 600 votes in Florida.

00:58:05.000 2016 was a very, very close election, as you recall, where the president, the current president lost the popular vote, but won the electoral college.

00:58:12.000 The 2020 election was actually quite close.

00:58:16.000 Um this last election was at best the third closest election of the 21st century.

00:58:22.000 But you know, ladies got to do something to make a living these days.

00:58:26.000 Okay, meanwhile, on the cultural front, there are a lot of people who are apparently very hot and bothered over Bad Bunny, a person whose name is Bad Bunny, who is hosting a hosted SNL this last weekend and is the the halftime star, I guess, of the Super Bowl.

00:58:42.000 I'm not one of the people who's very exercised about this.

00:58:45.000 I I frankly don't care who performs the halftime show at the Super Bowl.

00:58:47.000 I think it's a waste of time and a waste of money.

00:58:49.000 It is not made for people like me, anyway, meaning straight men.

00:58:52.000 Uh and uh and so Bad Bunny, you know, hosting the the halftime show at the Super Bowl.

00:58:59.000 I actually think it's kind of hilarious because he said that he wouldn't come back to the United States while Trump was president, and here he is breaking his vow.

00:59:04.000 Well, not only is he doing that, he's now showing up at SNL to speak Spanish at you.

00:59:08.000 More of this.

00:59:09.000 Honestly, good, more.

00:59:10.000 I I like that this is good.

00:59:11.000 I think the Democrats should show who they are.

00:59:13.000 I think cultural left wingers should show who they are, and Bad Bunny should show up on SNL and lecture Americans on why they need to learn Spanish.

00:59:19.000 And by the way, I'm not anti-learning Spanish.

00:59:21.000 I've been trying to do it myself for years and failing.

00:59:24.000 I think it's a good thing to know multiple languages.

00:59:26.000 But I don't think Americans take kindly to being lectured about how they must learn Spanish in the English language speaking country that is the United States.

00:59:35.000 I'm doing the Super Bowl halftime show.

00:59:42.000 And I'm very happy.

00:59:45.000 I'm very happy, and I think everyone is happy about it.

00:59:51.000 Even Fox News.

00:59:55.000 Bad Bunny is my favorite.

00:59:57.000 Musician president.

01:00:02.000 Thank you.

01:00:04.000 Thank you.

01:00:05.000 No, no, but really, I'm very excited to be doing the Super Bowl, and I know that people all around the world who love my music are also happy, especially Toro Latino.

01:00:20.000 All Latinos and Latinas in the whole world, and here in the United States, all the people who have worked to open doors, more than my job...

01:00:30.000 More than my job, it's a job of everything, demonstrating that our value and our contribution in this country no one can ever remove it.

01:00:48.000 And if you didn't understand what I just said, you have four months to learn.

01:00:58.000 Um, okay, like I'm not gonna be lectured about learning Spanish by Bad Bunny, a person who calls himself Bad Bunny.

01:01:04.000 And and I hope that Democrats embrace this full scale.

01:01:06.000 That actually it is an obligation of everybody to learn Spanish, not for him to speak English that we can understand him.

01:01:12.000 Go with this.

01:01:13.000 And when I am looking for cultural arbiters who are going to really spell out what it is that the Democratic Party should be about, I look to the multi-colored hair of Molly Jongfast, who says that Bad Bunny represents the values of the Democratic Party.

01:01:29.000 Her hair grows ever more neon.

01:01:31.000 It's kind of impressive.

01:01:33.000 I have to say, she uh I don't know that her hair was was always like this, but whoever is her specialist in doing the die, um, yeah, getting creative out there.

01:01:43.000 If the message is okay or works in different crowds, you don't have to think that that person needs to be your presidential candidate.

01:01:49.000 Like this is a problem that we go get obsessed by.

01:01:52.000 Is this person ascendant?

01:01:53.000 Is this the one?

01:01:53.000 Is this the way to do it?

01:01:54.000 But you might like AOC, you might like uh you might like you know, Pritzker, whatever the case is, are you getting the message?

01:02:01.000 And what's important about the op-ed I wrote in the New York Times that Bad Bunny, Bad Bunny represents a lot of the values that right now the Democratic Party should.

01:02:11.000 I mean, you know, the the idea that Puerto Rico is part of America, that we shouldn't be racist against people who come from I mean, like these are easy ideas that and he's a great messenger.

01:02:22.000 And if you think about Donald Trump god that politics is downstream of culture.

01:02:27.000 That's why he's at UFC fights.

01:02:29.000 That's why he claimed ownership of Jake Paul and Joe Rogan and those people, because he knew that the way to get in front of low frequency voters is to be in the culture.

01:02:40.000 Democrats have that too, but they're so reticent to embrace it because they're so cautious and lawyerly, and I think it's a mistake.

01:02:49.000 Okay, well, you know, go for it.

01:02:50.000 Go for it.

01:02:51.000 More more of this.

01:02:52.000 And I think we should definitely take our political cues from the great, brilliant folks over at SNL, who, by the way, spent the weekend also mocking J.K. Rowling for the great crime.

01:03:03.000 J.K. Rowling, you'll remember, told Emma Watson to basically stand back, stand aside because Emma Watson had been ripping into her a year ago and now is trying to make nice with her.

01:03:13.000 Because J.K. Rowling has committed the heinous sin of saying that boys are not girls and girls are not boys.

01:03:18.000 So that means that it was time for SNL to mock JK Rowling.

01:03:22.000 You know, always always on the side of the of the 20% SNL as opposed to the 80%.

01:03:27.000 Dobby the house, is that your service?

01:03:29.000 Dobby, are you okay?

01:03:31.000 You don't have to be scared.

01:03:32.000 Scared?

01:03:33.000 Why would Dobby be scared, sir?

01:03:35.000 Dobby's just about to publicly weigh in on trans people, that's all.

01:03:40.000 I mean, do you really have to?

01:03:42.000 Oh, yes, sir.

01:03:43.000 Master sent Dobby to go on the telly and define once and for all what a woman is, sir.

01:03:50.000 Alright, first of all, I do not love Master.

01:03:54.000 I really don't.

01:03:55.000 And is your master JK Rowling?

01:03:57.000 Why, of course, sir.

01:03:58.000 Oh, oh no.

01:03:59.000 Dobby wasn't supposed to say.

01:04:01.000 Bad Dobby!

01:04:02.000 Bad Dobby!

01:04:03.000 Bad Bobby!

01:04:05.000 Why do you keep hurting yourself?

01:04:08.000 It's not right.

01:04:09.000 Why?

01:04:11.000 Dobby doesn't know.

01:04:12.000 Perhaps because house elves are house elves are somehow always the problem, even though we're only one percent of the population.

01:04:20.000 But house elves aren't the victims.

01:04:22.000 Master Rowling is.

01:04:24.000 She gets so much hate mail.

01:04:26.000 Just this morning she received this t shirt that says, JK Rowling.

01:04:32.000 Keep going with this.

01:04:33.000 Honestly.

01:04:34.000 Cultural left.

01:04:36.000 Please.

01:04:36.000 The right will be in power forever if you continue this sort of nonsense.

01:04:40.000 Alrighty, folks.

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01:04:45.000 Plus, Gavin Newsom is Twitch streaming with the kids.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - October 06, 2025

Meet The Democrat Who Fantasizes About SHOOTING A GOP Leader

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