The Ben Shapiro Show - June 19, 2023


Musk and Rogan vs. The Biggest Covid Scientist

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Donald Trump Joe Biden Casey DeSantis Joe Rogan Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Chris Christie Bill Barr Harry Peter Hotez Ron DeSantis John Fetterman Anthony Fauci Sam Harris Mehdi Hassan Bill Simmons Nicki Minaj R.F.K. Jr. John Kelly Meghan Tony Blinken and 58 more
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R.F. Kennedy Jr. responds to anti-vaccine researcher Peter Hotez, who has been on the air for years ranting against his father, Robert Kennedy Sr., and his son, RFK Sr., over their views on the controversial topic of vaccines and autism. And then he goes on to say that he doesn t think vaccines should be given to anyone older than 65, even if they have a serious obesity problem, because "the real thing you need to bother about nutrition is the vaccine." And then, a few days later, he tweets that he's no longer monitoring his health care provider, Spotify, because they don't give him the care he needs to keep up with his diet and exercise. And then they shut him down, and then they make him apologize for his comments. And they apologize again, and they promise to do a debate with him on his show, but then they still don't get him on the show. And Elon Musk calls him out for spreading "vaxxism" and calls him a "liar" and a "hypocrite" and says he doesn't even care about his own health care costs, which is a lie. And that's not even half as bad as he says it is. It's a good thing, because he's not the only one who doesn't care about nutrition and exercise, right? except he does have a problem with obesity and fatness, which could be the real problem. . and he's a lot of people should be in better shape, but he's just not getting enough of it, you know what else to get the shots he should be getting the shots to help his body in the first place? to be in shape? or should he be getting enough to be healthy enough to get enough vitamins and enough to stay in shape to keep his body enough to keep himself in shape to have a chance to exercise he should get the vitamins he needs them at least he's got enough vitamins? and enough exercise to get a good night's rest or is he somethings to lose weight, right?? is that a good enough to make it all the time he needs the vitamins that he needs it? so he should to keep it all right, right to stay healthy, right ? well, not enough to exercise enough to maintain his body to be able to function properly?

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00:00:00.000 So, major controversy broke out over the weekend over a doctor named Peter Hotez.
00:00:05.000 You have seen him in a multiplicity of clips from MSNBC and CNN.
00:00:09.000 He is a vaccine researcher who's sort of COVID famous.
00:00:12.000 He was on the air a lot for the last several years talking about the magic of the COVID vaccines, why everyone should take them up to and including children.
00:00:19.000 And he had appeared on Joe Rogan's show where he had ripped into RFK Jr.
00:00:24.000 over RFK Jr.' 's anti-vaxxism.
00:00:27.000 So, RFK Jr.
00:00:28.000 is not just against the COVID vax, where, you know, arguments can be made either way in terms of who it should apply to.
00:00:34.000 My own opinion on the COVID vax is that it was effective for people 65 and above, people with severe obesity, but if you're a young, healthy person, there's really no reason you need to get the vax.
00:00:41.000 That's why my children were not vaxed.
00:00:43.000 However, R.F.K.
00:00:44.000 Jr.
00:00:45.000 also happens to be anti-vax generally, so he has very serious qualms about people taking generally proven vaccines like measles, mumps, rubella vaccines, for example.
00:00:55.000 He has serious problems with all of that.
00:00:56.000 So anyway, Dr. Peter Hotez ripped on R.F.K.
00:01:00.000 Jr., and R.F.K.
00:01:01.000 Jr.
00:01:01.000 then came back at Hotez.
00:01:03.000 They have a long-standing sort of public debate.
00:01:06.000 Have you had anyone debate you publicly about any of these?
00:01:09.000 Nobody will debate me.
00:01:09.000 For 18 years, nobody will debate me.
00:01:10.000 RFK Jr. is obviously gaining in the polls because Joe Biden is no longer alive.
00:01:14.000 And here is RFK Jr. slamming Hotez on autism.
00:01:18.000 Have you had anyone debate you publicly about any of these?
00:01:21.000 Nobody will debate me.
00:01:22.000 For 18 years, nobody will debate me.
00:01:24.000 In fact, I've scheduled many, many debates and I've asked Hotez many, many times to debate 1.00
00:01:32.000 And I think you've asked him, here, why don't you debate Robert Kennedy?
00:01:35.000 And he said, because he's a cunning lawyer or something like that.
00:01:39.000 But I've debated Hotez on the telephone. 1.00
00:01:44.000 With, you know, with kind of a referee.
00:01:47.000 And, you know, his science is just made up.
00:01:52.000 He cannot stand by it.
00:01:53.000 He can't cite studies.
00:01:55.000 Well, he was trying to tell me that vaccines don't cause autism.
00:01:58.000 Yeah, and his daughter has autism, and he wrote a book.
00:02:02.000 But I asked him.
00:02:04.000 That didn't get her autism from a vaccine. 0.99
00:02:06.000 But I've read that book, and there is no science cited in that book.
00:02:10.000 It's just him saying, you know, it didn't happen.
00:02:14.000 Okay, so Rogan then pledged to donate $100,000 to a charity of Hotez's choice if he agreed to appear with RFK Jr.
00:02:21.000 on his show to do a debate over all this.
00:02:23.000 Rogan's challenge has been viewed over 25 million times, and that prompted Hotez to then respond to him, quote, Be serious, Joe. 0.66
00:02:29.000 That's what you throw for your hunting parties.
00:02:31.000 He said, $50 million endowment, which you, Spotify, RFK Jr., can easily afford, not for me, but so we can continue making low-cost, patent-free vaccines for the world's poor, preceded by RFK Jr.' 's public apology.
00:02:42.000 Which, of course, is an extraordinary demand when the entire debate is over the issue, presumably.
00:02:47.000 Elon Musk then chimed in, saying that Hotez hates charity, while Kennedy agreed to a respectful, congenial, informative debate the American people deserve.
00:02:54.000 Hotez then tweeted, quote, from all the online attacks I'm receiving after this absurd podcast, it's clear that many actually believe this nonsense.
00:03:00.000 And then he tweeted out a Vice News article claiming that Spotify was no longer monitoring Rogan's, quote-unquote, vaccine misinformation.
00:03:07.000 During Rogan's interview with Kennedy, released on Thursday, Hotez was brought up as a point of discussion as the podcast host criticized the doctor for previously saying he didn't take basic measures to help boost his immune system.
00:03:16.000 So Rogan correctly noted that Hotez had basically said, don't bother working out, don't bother about nutrition with regard to COVID.
00:03:23.000 The real thing you need is the vaccine, which of course is not true.
00:03:26.000 I mean, if you are, again, old, elderly, you have serious obesity, the vaccine was like a good short-term patch.
00:03:33.000 But if you're talking about like young people, of course young people should be in better shape.
00:03:36.000 In fact, even if you're 65, you should be in better shape.
00:03:38.000 My dad, when COVID first hit, he found out that the statistics, when it came to disparity in death rate based on obesity or overweight status, were really grave.
00:03:47.000 And so he immediately went about starting to lose weight, which would be a smart thing to do.
00:03:53.000 Hotez then said he was happy to come on and clear the air, and he extended a counter-offer to Musk, inviting him to visit the vaccine laboratory and learn more about the work.
00:04:00.000 Rogan then called that response a non-answer.
00:04:02.000 He said, I challenged you publicly because you publicly quote-tweeted and agreed with that dog bleep Vice article.
00:04:07.000 If you're really serious about what you stand for, you now have a massive opportunity for debate that will reach the largest audience a discussion like this has ever had.
00:04:12.000 If you think someone else is better qualified, suggest that person.
00:04:16.000 Hotez then said the deleted tweet was unnecessarily provocative, and he said he was upset because RFK Jr.
00:04:21.000 had labeled him a pharma shill.
00:04:23.000 Okay, so this then prompted Hotez to go on Mehdi Hassan's show on MSNBC and say he won't debate.
00:04:28.000 So again, it's very weird to say you won't go on Rogan's show, which actually has way, way, way, way, way more people watching than Mehdi Hassan's show to talk about the topic that you have dedicated your life to.
00:04:37.000 Now listen, I understand.
00:04:38.000 why Hotez looks at RFK Jr. and says, I don't want to debate RFK Jr.
00:04:41.000 And it's not because all the facts on RFK Jr. side.
00:04:44.000 It's because very often when you are debating somebody like RFK Jr.,
00:04:48.000 RFK Jr. might start moving the goalposts or he might just start moving study to study.
00:04:52.000 And we'll go through some of the claims that RFK Jr. has made in just a second.
00:04:54.000 It's not whether I agree with RFK Jr.
00:04:56.000 or whether I don't agree with RFK Jr.
00:04:58.000 Again, I don't agree with him generally about vaccinations.
00:05:00.000 And I do agree with him that the COVID vaccine was not necessary
00:05:03.000 for young people or for small children, even while I think that he exaggerates
00:05:07.000 or is just wrong about some of his vaccines.
00:05:10.000 That's not really what this is about.
00:05:11.000 The reason this has become a hot topic is because what Hotez is falling back on is the same mask of authority the entire scientific establishment has used about a myriad of issues over the course of the last three years, and they've been wrong every time. 0.63
00:05:22.000 Here is Hotez trying to explain to Mehdi Hassan why he won't debate RFK Jr.
00:05:26.000 Anti-vaccine disinformation, it's always done a lot of damage and harm, but now it's a lethal force in the United States, and that's why we have to have that discussion.
00:05:35.000 And I offer to come and talk to Joe Rogan again, I've been on a couple of times, and have that discussion with him, but not to turn it into the Jerry Springer show with having RFK Jr.
00:05:45.000 on.
00:05:46.000 Okay, but the reality is that somebody is going to have to, if he's the guy to do it, then great.
00:05:50.000 And if he's not, then he should name the person.
00:05:51.000 Somebody needs to rebut the claims if RFK Jr.
00:05:54.000 is to be stopped in terms of the supposed misinformation that he's putting out right here.
00:05:58.000 I mean, somebody is supposed to do that.
00:06:00.000 Because, let's be real about this, RFK Jr.' 's claims have gained an awful lot of traction because he's on Joe Rogan's show.
00:06:05.000 And here's Joe doing the right thing and saying, okay, well, let's get somebody else who opposes you on the program, and then you guys can battle it out.
00:06:11.000 And again, even if you don't like, What RFK Jr.
00:06:14.000 is saying.
00:06:15.000 This notion that RFK Jr.
00:06:16.000 There are a couple reasons you turned down a debate as somebody who does debate a lot.
00:06:18.000 There are a couple reasons you turned down a debate.
00:06:20.000 One, the person who is challenging you like debate me bro online is basically just an anonymous troll who is seeking attention.
00:06:25.000 That's clearly not the case here.
00:06:27.000 RFK Jr.
00:06:27.000 is way more famous than Peter Hotez.
00:06:30.000 And number two, it's on some sort of outlet that has no listenership.
00:06:33.000 So why would you bother doing it?
00:06:34.000 You're actually elevating the claim by engaging in the debate.
00:06:36.000 That's obviously not true here either, because RFK Jr.' 's podcast with Rogan has like 25 million views.
00:06:42.000 So Hotez really has no reason to do this. 0.96
00:06:43.000 Even again, the question isn't, is he going to convince RFK Jr.?
00:06:46.000 He's not going to convince RFK Jr.
00:06:47.000 The question is, can he make a coherent argument as to what exactly RFK Jr.
00:06:51.000 is doing?
00:06:52.000 And if not, can he suggest somebody who can?
00:06:54.000 Because otherwise, it looks like RFK Jr.
00:06:55.000 wins by default.
00:06:57.000 Now, I understand that Hotez and the rest of the crew are claiming that because Hotez is a doctor or because the science is settled, this means they no longer have to debate the issue, but that's just not true.
00:07:06.000 That is not the way that human minds are changed.
00:07:08.000 It's not the way that people's minds are changed.
00:07:09.000 It's not the way that any of this goes, particularly because, again, as I say, the scientific establishment has destroyed itself over the course of the last decade or so.
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00:08:22.000 Okay, so.
00:08:23.000 You hear right there that again, RFK Jr.
00:08:26.000 is trying to claim, for example, so there are many claims that I disagree with RFK Jr.
00:08:30.000 making.
00:08:31.000 I do not think that they are correct.
00:08:32.000 So for example, he keeps claiming and a lot of people try to claim that there is a link between vaccinations and autism.
00:08:37.000 The reality is that there is no solid scientific evidence linking vaccinations to autism.
00:08:42.000 We really don't know what causes autism.
00:08:44.000 We do know that there's a genetic component to it because siblings who have autism tend to have other siblings who have autism.
00:08:50.000 But the notion that we know the cause of every disease in human history is just not true.
00:08:54.000 And this is particularly the case with a broad-spectrum disease like autism, a broad-spectrum condition like autism.
00:08:59.000 But that doesn't mean that it's the vaccines.
00:09:01.000 And so very often one of the things that happens in talking about vaccines is that the burden of proof is somehow put on the vaccines to prove that it is not causing autism as opposed to the burden of proof being put on people who are making the claim to suggest that it is the vaccines causing autism.
00:09:14.000 One of the things that's happened here Is that people have linked the rise in autism to the rise in vaccine usage because they say, well, they both occur when you're a child.
00:09:21.000 Well, yeah, but there are a lot of other things that occur when you're a child as well.
00:09:24.000 In fact, the original claim about autism being linked to vaccinations was made in 1998 when Andrew Wakefield and 12 of his colleagues ran a study in The Lancet, which suggested that MMR, measles, mumps, rubella vaccines, could predispose to behavioral regression and pervasive developmental disorder in children.
00:09:39.000 This is according to a piece cited by the Indian Journal of Psychiatry.
00:09:44.000 Despite the small sample size, it was only 12 people who were sampled, the uncontrolled design, and the speculative nature of the conclusions, this became like a bombshell in the middle of vaccine world.
00:09:52.000 Almost immediately afterward, epidemiological studies were conducted and published refuting the positive link between MMR and autism.
00:10:00.000 And then the paper ended up being fully retracted in February of 2010, and they admitted that several elements in the paper were incorrect, contrary to the findings of the earlier investigation.
00:10:08.000 Wakefield and his entire crew were held guilty of ethical violations and scientific misrepresentation.
00:10:13.000 But it doesn't matter because it had already sort of entered the bloodstream of the entire conversation with regard to, for example, autism.
00:10:21.000 And so when RFK Jr.
00:10:23.000 continues to claim Again, without, I think, any strong evidence at all that vaccines are linked to autism, that link just has never been proved in any sort of durable way.
00:10:32.000 Hotez could say that. 0.96
00:10:33.000 This is the whole point, right?
00:10:34.000 There are lots of people who can make that claim and they could take on RFK Jr.
00:10:38.000 The underlying pervasive problem here is not the claim that RFK Jr.
00:10:41.000 is making.
00:10:42.000 It's that if the people who are quote-unquote the science destroy their credibility, it means they now have to go back and they have to debate RFK Jr.
00:10:50.000 Because the same exact people who are claiming that the science is settled on vaccines are also unfortunately claiming that the science is settled on global warming, gender-affirming care, universal masking, the COVID vax, right?
00:11:01.000 And the science is not settled on any of those matters.
00:11:04.000 This has reopened the door to why you need to actually debate all of these claims.
00:11:10.000 This is part of the problem.
00:11:12.000 So RFK Jr.
00:11:13.000 makes these kinds of claims all the time.
00:11:15.000 And again, there are a bunch of claims that he's been making for years, right?
00:11:17.000 So he suggests, for example, that when people get, when babies get vaccines, that they get ethyl mercury in the vaccines, okay?
00:11:26.000 And this is what is causing autism, and that it's crossing the blood-brain barrier, and it's getting embedded in the brain, and all this.
00:11:31.000 Again, the evidence for this is extraordinarily scanty.
00:11:35.000 Because the reality is, there's a good piece over at Stat News by a guy named Paul Offit talking about this.
00:11:39.000 He says, babies typically ingest about 360 micrograms of methylmercury during the first six months of life, well before they ever receive their first dose of influenza vaccine.
00:11:48.000 If the 25 micrograms of ethylmercury in vaccines is 100 times greater than what Kennedy claimed it is, simply by living on Earth by six months of age, babies will have ingested an amount of mercury 1,440 times greater than Kennedy's safety limit.
00:12:00.000 Kennedy suggested that babies were being injected with 25 micrograms of ethylmercury Which is a preservative in something called thimerosal, which was used in multi-dose vials of influenza vaccine.
00:12:10.000 It's really only for the flu vaccine.
00:12:11.000 So thimerosal has not been a part of virtually any vaccine since 2001, but he continues to claim that kids are being routinely injected with mercury, for example.
00:12:18.000 And it turns out the kind of mercury they're being injected with is very common in human diets.
00:12:22.000 And then he cites essentially one study, and he does it in the middle of the Rogan interview.
00:12:27.000 He cites essentially one study suggesting that it's getting embedded in the brain, that it's linked with brain uptake in monkeys.
00:12:36.000 But the reality, again, is that even in the study that he is citing with regard to the monkeys, what it tends to show is sort of the opposite, actually.
00:12:46.000 This is a point made by another Twitter account called The Bad Stats.
00:12:52.000 In which he says that essentially the Birbacher study, he talks about this, RFK does, this is the study on monkeys and mercury in the brain, shows thimerosal only appears to be processed out of your bloodstream because it's accumulating in your brain.
00:13:05.000 But again, that actual study compares thimerosal to organic mercury and finds that a much lower brain concentration of total mercury was observed in the thimerosal monkey compared with the Organic mercury monkeys.
00:13:18.000 So, in other words, thimerosal actually does clear out faster than, for example, organic mercury.
00:13:24.000 And total mercury is cleared much more rapidly from the brain after thimerosal.
00:13:27.000 So, thimerosal, number one, isn't really in a lot of vaccines.
00:13:30.000 It's really, I think, in just flu vaccine at this point.
00:13:32.000 Two, the kind of mercury that's in thimerosal is not really linked to any sort of serious damage by any available study that I'm aware of.
00:13:40.000 There's speculation, but that speculation is not the equivalent of evidence.
00:13:44.000 This sort of stuff is the sort of stuff that RFK Jr.
00:13:47.000 frequently says, but again, why can't Hotez say that to him? 0.99
00:13:50.000 Why can't Hotez point that out? 1.00
00:13:54.000 Many of the claims that Kennedy makes, and again, I understand why it's hard to debate people.
00:13:59.000 I understand why you have a 250-page book like RFK Jr.' 's book on vaccines.
00:14:04.000 You have to go through and debunk every point in there if you want to get ready for it.
00:14:07.000 But that's what this is.
00:14:08.000 RFK Jr.
00:14:08.000 is now a prominent figure on the American public scene.
00:14:11.000 Somebody owes it.
00:14:12.000 Somebody who is a vaccine defender owes it to actually go on and rebut some of these claims.
00:14:17.000 But Hotez won't do it. 1.00
00:14:19.000 And again, this gets back to the key point.
00:14:21.000 This gets back to the key point.
00:14:22.000 If nobody rebuts the claims, then the claims win.
00:14:25.000 And the reason you're not rebutting the claims is because you have so many claims of your own that are irrefutable and irrebuttable, and you won't defend them.
00:14:32.000 If you never have to debate, it doesn't just mean that you won't debate RFK Jr.
00:14:34.000 It means you won't debate anyone on your own claims.
00:14:37.000 And those claims are very much in question.
00:14:40.000 And again, RFK Jr.
00:14:41.000 is a pretty fringe figure when it comes to science.
00:14:43.000 I mean, literally on Rogan's show, he suggested that Wi-Fi causes cancer.
00:14:46.000 Again, the evidence that Wi-Fi causes cancer is scanty.
00:14:50.000 I mean, I'm not aware of the existence of any serious evidence that Wi-Fi causes cancer.
00:14:54.000 We've run like a thousand studies on this at this point.
00:14:56.000 Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't.
00:14:58.000 But the evidence that it does is, again, very scanty.
00:15:00.000 But here is RFK Jr.
00:15:01.000 saying that Wi-Fi causes cancer.
00:15:03.000 Wi-Fi radiation does all kinds of bad things, including causing cancer.
00:15:12.000 Wi-Fi radiation causes cancer.
00:15:13.000 Yeah, from your cell phone.
00:15:14.000 I mean there's cell phone tumors.
00:15:16.000 You know that?
00:15:17.000 I mean I'm representing hundreds of people who have cell phone tumors behind the ear.
00:15:21.000 It's always on the ear that you favor with your cell phone.
00:15:25.000 Oh, and you know, we have the science.
00:15:27.000 So if anybody lets us in front of a jury, it will be over.
00:15:30.000 So what is the number?
00:15:33.000 Because a lot of people use cell phones.
00:15:34.000 There's a lot of people with it.
00:15:35.000 They're glioblastomas.
00:15:37.000 That's the kind of cancers that they get.
00:15:40.000 But cancer's not the worst thing.
00:15:41.000 They also, you know, it opens up... Wi-Fi radiation opens up your blood-brain barrier.
00:15:48.000 Okay, so again, the notion that it is causing cancer is certainly open to debate, but he says this sort of stuff with, like, pure certainty.
00:15:56.000 Somebody should refute it.
00:15:57.000 But again, the reason nobody will refute it is because there's a class of people who have considered themselves the specials, and those specials will not descend from the mountaintop to explain themselves to everybody else.
00:16:06.000 And the problem is that those special people who had, like, a hundred years of, look at our amazing science that's made life better for you, on their side, then blew it over the last ten years.
00:16:14.000 It was one thing for them to say, we're here on the mountaintop handing you down magical science that will make your life better.
00:16:19.000 When they're actually making magical science that made your life better. 0.99
00:16:22.000 When instead, the garbage, the stuff they've been handing down is no longer magical science that makes your life better, it's garbage. 0.97
00:16:28.000 Then people start to say, okay, well, now you need to come down from the mountaintop and explain yourself. 0.98
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00:17:38.000 So, again, the reason that I keep going back to this idea that RFK Jr.
00:17:42.000 may not even be a reliable source on all of this stuff, but somebody should debate him, is because the same people who say they will not debate the regulars are the people who have been lying to you for years.
00:17:50.000 So the same Peter Hotez, who's saying, I speak for the science, I speak for the vaccines.
00:17:54.000 Here he was pushing the vaccination of kids in May of 2021.
00:17:58.000 Kids being vaccinated before next school year, is that realistic?
00:18:03.000 Yeah, I think it is.
00:18:04.000 I mean, the study is not that big.
00:18:06.000 It's about 1,200 adolescents, 12 to 15, in the vaccination group and a similar number in the placebo group.
00:18:15.000 And what it showed is there were 18 cases of COVID in the placebo group and zero in the vaccinated group.
00:18:21.000 That's how you got to the 100%.
00:18:23.000 I would guess as you get to much larger studies, it'll probably come down a little bit similar.
00:18:28.000 It'll probably be similar to the very high level of protection that we see in adults. So the question is, where
00:18:35.000 do we go from here? I think there's a few reasons to vaccinate adolescents. We are seeing
00:18:39.000 adolescents go into pediatric intensive care units. They are getting sick, especially those with
00:18:45.000 underlying risk factors. And as you point out, if we're going to actually interrupt virus transmission, we
00:18:52.000 have to get to 80-85 percent of the population vaccinated now that we have the B.1.1.7
00:18:57.000 variant.
00:18:58.000 Okay, the reason that Peter Hoots has to debate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:19:01.000 is because of this.
00:19:03.000 Right?
00:19:03.000 It's because he won on national TV and he claimed that we need to vaccinate all the kids.
00:19:06.000 And the vaccines were going to stop transmission among kids and stop them from getting seriously ill and all the rest of this.
00:19:11.000 Right?
00:19:12.000 He made that claim.
00:19:13.000 As Captain Vaccine over here.
00:19:14.000 So what does that do?
00:19:15.000 That opens the door to all of the other claims.
00:19:17.000 And this is the same thing.
00:19:18.000 The expert class has lied to us.
00:19:21.000 About everything for a decade.
00:19:23.000 And then they say, well, we don't have to come down from that.
00:19:25.000 It's like, you're not Jonas Salk.
00:19:26.000 You didn't do the thing.
00:19:27.000 Okay, if you had represented the science and you had brought actual scientific progress to the fore, that would be one thing.
00:19:34.000 But once you admix that with bad stuff, once you're a bleep sandwich, once even, let's say that Hotez does good stuff with the vaccines he's developing for the third world, fine. 0.99
00:19:43.000 Okay, once you mix that with, you go on TV every night on MSNBC and CNN and you talk about things like kids have to get the vaccine, Now you are no longer a great science giver.
00:19:53.000 Now you are a person who has to defend yourself because you have sullied yourself.
00:19:56.000 You have sullied the science that you are presenting to people with your own personal agenda.
00:20:00.000 And once your personal agenda is at stake, you have to defend not only your own point of view, but the science that you thought was inarguable five seconds ago because you've sullied it by association.
00:20:09.000 You've engaged in what the word is, ultracorruptarianism.
00:20:12.000 You're outside your realm of expertise, but it still is your actual realm of expertise because you operated outside that area.
00:20:18.000 So now you actually do have to debate people like RF Kennedy Jr.
00:20:21.000 We're going to get to more of this in a second because, again, every day there's a new quote-unquote myth that the scientific establishment declared was a myth that is being proved to be true like every single day.
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00:21:43.000 Okay, so speaking of other things that the science said was not real, but now turns out to be real, according to The Intercept, One of the first Wuhan researchers reportedly sickened with COVID in fall of 2019, a guy named Ben Hu, was getting U.S.
00:21:56.000 financial support for risky gain-of-function research on coronaviruses, according to documents obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request by the transparency advocacy organization White Coat Waste Project.
00:22:06.000 The funding came in three grants totaling $41 million dollars, doled out by USAID and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, or NIAID.
00:22:13.000 That is the agency then headed by Dr. Anthony Fauci, who is listed as an investigator on the grant.
00:22:18.000 The news that the U.S.
00:22:19.000 intelligence had learned that three Wuhan Institute of Virology lab workers had been hospitalized with COVID symptoms in November 2019, well before the supposed outbreak at the city's seafood market was first reported by the Wall Street Journal in May 2021.
00:22:31.000 But the revelation had pretty much no impact on the broader debate over the origin of the pandemic.
00:22:36.000 It's still totally unclear which animal this thing supposedly jumped from spontaneously, but new reporting by Michael Schellenberger and Matt Taibbi sourced the three government sources familiar with the State Department investigation has now identified the three lab workers working at the COVID lab in Wuhan as Ben Hu, Yu Ping, and Yan Zhu.
00:22:52.000 Two of the grants ran from 2014 through 2019.
00:22:54.000 The third was cut off in 2020 by President Trump after the outbreak in Wuhan.
00:22:59.000 The NIAID and USAID grant list who, as an investigator in the project, is being funded.
00:23:04.000 So in other words, people who are actively working on gain-of-function research funded by U.S.
00:23:08.000 dollars were some of the first people who were infected with COVID, which is lending a lot of credence to all of the things that the scientific community said that you weren't allowed to talk about.
00:23:16.000 Like, did this thing start at a lab?
00:23:18.000 And also, who was funding that lab?
00:23:20.000 And was it gain-of-function research that led to the outbreak at this lab?
00:23:23.000 Senator Rand Paul spent the weekend ripping on Fauci again and suggesting that Fauci had orchestrated a cover-up of all of this.
00:23:29.000 What about Anthony Fauci's accountability and the media complicit?
00:23:35.000 What we know is from the very first days of the pandemic in January of 2020, that Anthony Fauci orchestrated an elaborate cover-up.
00:23:44.000 He knew there was a problem.
00:23:46.000 At three in the morning, he was emailing somebody on January 31st, and that person was head of the committee that was supposed to review dangerous research, the P3CO committee.
00:23:56.000 potential pandemic pathogens.
00:23:59.000 It was supposed to look at this dangerous research, but Fauci allowed it to go around that.
00:24:04.000 So he knew from the very beginning, not only was he funding the Wuhan research,
00:24:08.000 but he was going around the regulatory apparatus to let it happen,
00:24:11.000 even though the rules said it shouldn't have happened without more scrutiny.
00:24:14.000 So he knew this from the beginning and it was an active coverup.
00:24:18.000 If you talked about any of this, like two years ago, not only were you deemed a kook,
00:24:22.000 you were banned from social media.
00:24:24.000 And this is what the science did.
00:24:26.000 So the science told you that your kids had to take the COVID vax.
00:24:28.000 And then the science told you, like, had to.
00:24:30.000 And then the science told you that you had to mask mandate at your place of work or that you had to vax mandate at your place of work.
00:24:35.000 And then the White House claimed that the science recommended all of this, which is why OSHA tried to cram it down, which is why our company actually sued to stop it.
00:24:42.000 And then we find out that it may in fact have been engineered at a lab and then leaked from that lab.
00:24:48.000 And maybe it turns out that after all, it was gain-of-function research.
00:24:52.000 All that stuff.
00:24:53.000 But it doesn't stop there.
00:24:54.000 I mean, it undermines the scientific establishment when you have the Biden monkeypox advisor, a person named Dr. Dimitri Tsikalakis, again, this is for the Biden administration, claiming that we have to call monkeypox mpox.
00:25:07.000 Why?
00:25:08.000 Because we wouldn't want to shut down the joy that some people have by banging random dudes at the bar through the glory hole on a Friday night.
00:25:13.000 Not kidding.
00:25:14.000 He said this on national television, on MSNBC.
00:25:17.000 I always say that I've never made an HIV diagnosis in someone that hasn't somehow related to stigma.
00:25:22.000 I think mpox is the same.
00:25:24.000 So really, stigma tends to be a barrier to testing, a barrier to vaccination.
00:25:29.000 And so, you know, really addressing stigma intentionally and making sure that we get the word out in a way that supports people's joy as opposed to, you know, calling them risky.
00:25:40.000 So I think, you know, one of the things to think about is that, you know, One person's idea of risk is another person's idea of a great festival or Friday night, for that matter.
00:25:48.000 So we have to sort of embrace that with joy.
00:25:50.000 We have to embrace it with joy.
00:25:52.000 If we just keep saying joy over and over and over, we will ignore the fact that it is wildly more risky to screw random people in bathrooms.
00:26:00.000 But there's the science.
00:26:01.000 He's a scientist.
00:26:02.000 I know because he says so.
00:26:04.000 The authority figures, they are the science and you must listen to the science.
00:26:07.000 It's very important.
00:26:08.000 And that's why they won't debate you.
00:26:10.000 It's because if they would debate you, then you might actually end up refuting some of their other points.
00:26:16.000 It's very frustrating because, again, a lot of the scientific progress that we have already established in the area of, for example, getting rid of childhood diseases, like measles, mumps, rubella, it's not just those kill kids.
00:26:26.000 They kill those kids, historically speaking, in very low numbers, even before vaccinations.
00:26:31.000 Measles were killing, like, a couple of kids a year in the United States.
00:26:33.000 It's all of the other side effects of measles, including, by the way, leading the way for shingles later on.
00:26:38.000 It's leading to pneumonia, at least encephalitis, right?
00:26:40.000 There are other things that happen when you get measles sometimes.
00:26:43.000 Getting rid of the disease of measles has been a net positive, for sure, for the United States.
00:26:47.000 But that goes away when you totally undercut your credibility.
00:26:51.000 In the same way that when your obituary gets written, it doesn't matter how much good you did.
00:26:56.000 If you took your car and mowed down three random passers-by, that will be your obit.
00:27:00.000 It doesn't matter if you did something else that is good.
00:27:04.000 In the same way, this is what the scientific establishment has now done.
00:27:07.000 They spent 100 years building up the credibility of science, 150 years building up the credibility of science, and then in 10 years they ripped it all down.
00:27:13.000 So now you do have to reestablish that credibility, and the only way that you reestablish that credibility is through open debate.
00:27:19.000 It's through convincing human beings.
00:27:21.000 Again, you have to do it.
00:27:22.000 You have an obligation to do it now, and that's your own fault.
00:27:26.000 Especially because, again, the science has been used.
00:27:30.000 Tough science, as I like to say.
00:27:31.000 Tough science, trademark.
00:27:32.000 Has been used in order to mainstream and mainline in, through the press, a bunch of falsehoods.
00:27:38.000 We'll get to more of that momentarily.
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00:29:26.000 Okay, meanwhile, the idea that the scientific community has now created a set of pseudo-scientific notions that are irrefutable and undebatable, that's opened the door to a bunch of people who are saying stuff that actually is not particularly scientific and getting away with it because the scientists are like, I'm not debating anything.
00:29:40.000 I don't have to debate anything.
00:29:41.000 But there's another problem, and that is that these bad anti-science messages then get bled down via the media into literally everything.
00:29:48.000 And anyone who stands up against that is then crushed.
00:29:51.000 So, for example, the CEO of GLAAD, the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, was on MSNBC over the weekend claiming that Twitter basically needs to be shut down.
00:30:00.000 Free speech has to be shut down.
00:30:01.000 By the way, this is also happening with RFK Jr.
00:30:03.000 The reality is that Jordan Peterson did a podcast with RFK Jr.
00:30:06.000 and was immediately pulled from social media services.
00:30:09.000 When that happens, it doesn't make people stop looking at the claims.
00:30:12.000 It makes people think the claims are real and that you guys are trying to silence them.
00:30:15.000 Here is GLAAD trying to do just that with Twitter.
00:30:18.000 So there is incremental improvement on all of them, except for Twitter, which did significantly, statistically, excuse me, significant progress.
00:30:30.000 And what's really sad here is that Twitter actually used to be the leader.
00:30:33.000 We sat on their trust and safety council, but Elon Musk has turned Twitter into a weapon against the LGBTQ community.
00:30:42.000 And he leads the charge.
00:30:45.000 Literally leads the charge with tweeting out anti-trans rhetoric and misinformation about the trans community and the LGBTQ community.
00:30:58.000 Again, this is the goal.
00:30:59.000 The goal is to shut down the debate.
00:31:01.000 It's the same group of people.
00:31:02.000 Shut down the debate.
00:31:03.000 AMC Theaters, by the way, has now cancelled a detransitioner film following a trans group deplatforming campaign, according to the Daily Wire.
00:31:11.000 AMC theaters canceled a film showcasing the voices of young people who have detransitioned after having hormone therapy and surgeries to purportedly affirm their gender identity.
00:31:19.000 The movie is called No Way Back, the reality of gender-affirming care, and it was set for initial release on June 21st in dozens of theaters across the country.
00:31:26.000 AMC then caved to the pressure of a deplatforming campaign by a trans group called Queer Trans Project, which has not even seen the film.
00:31:34.000 The Daily Wire reached out to AMC theaters about the cancellation.
00:31:36.000 They received no response.
00:31:38.000 So, you can't distribute stuff that runs counter to all of this.
00:31:42.000 And this, of course, has now extended over into places like Ireland.
00:31:46.000 Irish citizens currently are facing jail time for quote-unquote hate speech if they say things that do not comply with the changing and variable notions of truth promoted by the trans movement.
00:32:00.000 According to Fox News, the Irish criminal justice bill is supposed to target hate speech, but the text notes that a person can be imprisoned if they prepare or possess material, quote, likely to incite violence or hatred against a person or a group of persons on account of their protected characteristics or any of those characteristics or the view of the material being communicated to the public or a section of the public, whether by himself or herself or another person.
00:32:20.000 So what exactly are those protected groups that you're not allowed to speak badly about in Ireland?
00:32:24.000 Well, now they want to add in sexual orientation and gender identity.
00:32:29.000 So that means that if you own a Bible, then you could theoretically be arrested in Ireland.
00:32:35.000 Because who knows?
00:32:36.000 That could be used to theoretically promote or incite violence or hatred.
00:32:40.000 Not even violence, right?
00:32:41.000 Inciting violence is an actual legal standard.
00:32:43.000 Inciting hatred is the standard.
00:32:45.000 So if you just have a Bible and you look up Leviticus, it turns out people may not particularly like particular types of behavior that are now identified with identity.
00:32:54.000 In the left-wing parlance.
00:32:55.000 So you could get arrested in Ireland.
00:32:57.000 And they're pretty obvious about this.
00:32:58.000 Here's the Irish Green Party Senator Pauline O'Reilly saying this is the whole point.
00:33:02.000 It's designed to stop hate. 0.99
00:33:03.000 Shut up. 0.98
00:33:05.000 When you think about it, all law, all legislation is about the restriction of freedom. 0.99
00:33:11.000 That's exactly what we're doing here, is we are restricting freedom, but we're doing it for the common good.
00:33:17.000 You will see throughout our constitution, yes, you have rights, but they are restricted for the common good.
00:33:24.000 Everything needs to be balanced.
00:33:26.000 And if your views on other people's identities Go to make their lives unsafe, insecure, and cause them such deep discomfort that they cannot live in peace.
00:33:40.000 Then I believe that it is our job as legislators to restrict those freedoms for the common good.
00:33:46.000 Okay, the freedoms have to be restricted for the common— You can't say things.
00:33:50.000 All part of the generalized authoritarian cram-down when it comes to everything from science to social politics, which of course are linked.
00:33:56.000 And that authoritarian cram-down, I have to say, it is amazing to watch it coming from the Biden administration abroad.
00:34:01.000 Like you know it's happening at home when they're promoting topless trans influencers 1.00
00:34:05.000 at the White House jiggling male parts that have now been changed over by a surgeon.
00:34:11.000 Right, you know that it's happening at home.
00:34:12.000 Like we can all see it happening at home. 1.00
00:34:13.000 But we're also doing it abroad and it's the most hypocritical, ridiculous thing. 0.98
00:34:16.000 So for example, over the weekend, our ambassador, a guy named David Pressman, 0.96
00:34:21.000 he was speaking in Hungary and he was ripping on the social politics in Hungary,
00:34:25.000 which is apparently what we do.
00:34:27.000 Is we go to foreign countries rip on their social politics except of course if they 1.00
00:34:33.000 happen to be a to be in actual authoritarian countries.
00:34:35.000 This is the ambassador to Hungary for the United States, insulting Hungary, which is a quasi-American ally.
00:34:41.000 I would like to speak this evening about freedom, and I would like to speak tonight about love,
00:34:49.000 but I cannot speak about them without first speaking of hate.
00:34:53.000 The sad and somber truth is that as we assemble here today, LGBT people are under attack in countries around the world,
00:35:05.000 including in Hungary.
00:35:06.000 Thank you.
00:35:08.000 Perhaps this is driven by ignorance or hate or fear Or perhaps it's driven by cynicism and expedience.
00:35:16.000 So that is our ambassador to Hungary.
00:35:18.000 Hungary is a country that is not at war with the United States and is not in a direct conflict with the United States geopolitically.
00:35:24.000 In fact, Hungary sides with the United States far more often than it sides with the United States' enemies.
00:35:28.000 The most you can say about Hungary right now is that they're drawing a middle line between Russia and the United States with regards to Ukraine.
00:35:33.000 They're not opposing NATO action in Ukraine, obviously, but they also are adjacent to Russia, and so they have to be a little bit careful.
00:35:43.000 We are perfectly willing to unleash our ambassadors to insult American allies.
00:35:47.000 Meanwhile, we are sending American ambassadors to kowtow to America's enemies.
00:35:51.000 So you know where they're really not big on the LGBTQ rights?
00:35:54.000 China.
00:35:55.000 Not huge on it over there.
00:35:56.000 Not big into the transing over in China.
00:35:59.000 But we have no words for the Chinese, because the Chinese, of course, are the ones buying our debt. 1.00
00:36:03.000 So here is the President of the United States, who's all for the Pride Progress flag, flying from the center of the White House. 0.69
00:36:10.000 But here he is pretending that the Chinese spy balloon was no big deal, actually.
00:36:15.000 Can Secretary Blinken ease tensions with China on this trip, do you think?
00:36:19.000 Sure, well look, China has some legitimate difficulties unrelated to the United States.
00:36:34.000 I think one of the things that that balloon caused was not so much that it got shot down, but I don't think the leadership knew where it was and knew what was in it and knew what was going on.
00:36:46.000 I think it was more embarrassing than it was Oh, you know, it was bad for them, right?
00:36:53.000 That's Joe Biden offending China.
00:36:55.000 So we have our ambassador in Hungary insulting the Hungarian prime minister. 1.00
00:37:01.000 And then we have Joe Biden who's kissing the ass of the Chinese. 0.99
00:37:03.000 And it's not just Joe Biden, by the way. 0.99
00:37:04.000 Tony Blinken went to China where he said that we do not favor Taiwanese independence.
00:37:09.000 And now the truth is that we've always been very unclear on exactly what it is that we favor with regard to Taiwan.
00:37:13.000 We've used a policy of strategic ambiguity, right?
00:37:15.000 The idea is that it's not clear what the United States wants for Taiwan, what it doesn't want for Taiwan.
00:37:19.000 Maybe we're okay with their independence.
00:37:20.000 Maybe we're not okay with their independence.
00:37:21.000 We just want things to continue as is.
00:37:22.000 We want status quo.
00:37:23.000 But here is Anthony Blinken saying out loud that we don't want Taiwanese independence, which of course encourages the Chinese to do something about it. 0.68
00:37:32.000 I raised U.S.
00:37:32.000 concerns, shared by a growing number of countries, about the PRC's provocative actions in the Taiwan Strait, as well as in the South and East China Seas.
00:37:42.000 On Taiwan, I reiterated the longstanding U.S.
00:37:45.000 One-China policy.
00:37:47.000 That policy has not changed.
00:37:49.000 It's guided by the Taiwan Relations Act, the three joint communiques, the six assurances.
00:37:55.000 We do not support Taiwan independence.
00:37:57.000 We remain opposed to any unilateral changes to the status quo by either side.
00:38:02.000 We continue to expect the peaceful resolution of cross-strait differences.
00:38:06.000 We remain committed to meeting our responsibilities under the Taiwan Relations Act, including making sure that Taiwan has the ability to defend itself. 0.99
00:38:14.000 So, kissing the ass of the Chinese, yes. 1.00
00:38:16.000 Insulting the Hungarians, yes. 1.00
00:38:19.000 This is what this administration is all about.
00:38:21.000 Really stellar foreign policy right there.
00:38:23.000 They definitely have principles.
00:38:24.000 Meanwhile, on the Republican side of the aisle, there is a battle that is going to break out and it's going to be over policy.
00:38:29.000 So, there's really two battles with regards to Donald Trump.
00:38:31.000 Donald Trump is the clear frontrunner at this point by every available poll.
00:38:34.000 There are two battles that can be fought with regard to the Republican nomination.
00:38:37.000 One is a battle over policy and one is a battle over personality.
00:38:40.000 The battle over personality is likely to fail if the other Republican candidates point out that Donald Trump is very frequently incoherent.
00:38:46.000 That Donald Trump hires bad people. 0.96
00:38:48.000 Donald Trump makes crazy decisions. 0.88
00:38:50.000 He tweets, we all know that. 0.96
00:38:52.000 That's all baked into the cake.
00:38:53.000 That is going to change precisely nothing.
00:38:55.000 So the media were running with that narrative over the weekend because obviously Donald Trump's own lawyers are now likely to testify against him in this particular federal criminal indictment case in Miami.
00:39:05.000 Bill Barr, his former attorney general, who's one of the people that Trump is now going to war with.
00:39:09.000 And by the way, that list is like super long of former administration officials that Donald Trump is at war with.
00:39:15.000 Here's just a brief list of the former administration officials appointed by Donald Trump who he now considers to have stabbed him in the back or been bad.
00:39:21.000 You ready?
00:39:21.000 Here's the list.
00:39:22.000 Vice President Pence, Attorney General Bill Barr, James Madison and Mike Esper, both Secretaries of Defense, Rex Tillerson and Mike Pompeo, both Secretaries of State, two Chiefs of Staff, John Kelly and Mick Mulvaney, two NSAs, John Bolton and H.R.
00:39:32.000 McMaster, Deputy NSA Matt Pottinger, Secretary of the Navy Richard Spencer, Communications Director Alyssa Farrah Griffin, Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham, Cabinet Members Elaine Chao, etc., personal lawyers Michael Cohen and counting.
00:39:42.000 That is from a list put together by some of the folks over at The Bulwark.
00:39:46.000 And while I disagree with The Bulwark a lot, that happens to be an accurate list. 0.91
00:39:48.000 Those are all people that Trump hired and now is at war with.
00:39:51.000 Okay, so Bill Barr goes after Donald Trump and he says, like, he's very bad at hiring people, I noticed.
00:39:55.000 Like, if the idea here is that all the people he hired keep betraying him, why is he so bad at hiring people?
00:39:59.000 Here's Bill Barr.
00:40:01.000 Would he put the country at risk if he was in the White House again?
00:40:04.000 He will always put his own interests and gratifying his own ego ahead of everything else, including the country's interests.
00:40:10.000 There's no question about it.
00:40:11.000 This is a perfect example of that.
00:40:12.000 He's like, you know, he's like a nine-year-old, defiant nine-year-old kid who's always pushing the glass toward the edge of the table, defying his parents to stop him from doing it.
00:40:20.000 It's a means of self-assertion and exerting his dominance over other people.
00:40:25.000 OK, and Chris Christie, of course, then picked up the baton and went after Trump as well, saying, like, he has the worst hiring history in the history of the world, which I mean, by the facts, it's I mean, who in his administration did he hire who he's not at war with?
00:40:36.000 I mean, that that list is actually much shorter at this point.
00:40:40.000 So Trump on his social media site is attacking former Trump officials that you know who have criticized him over the indictment. 0.95
00:40:47.000 He's saying his former Chief of Staff, retired Marine General John Kelly, has a very small brain. 0.89
00:40:53.000 For some reason he put brain in quotation marks. 0.90
00:40:56.000 He also called Kelly a mummy who sat in his office and stared at the ceiling. 1.00
00:41:00.000 Trump called his former Attorney General Bill Barr a gutless pig, lazy, and totally ineffective. 0.96
00:41:07.000 What do you make of the comments? 0.96
00:41:09.000 Either Donald Trump, if you believe what he said when they left, that means he didn't pick the very best people and doesn't know how to pick personnel.
00:41:16.000 If you believe what about them what he said at the beginning, the great stuff, then this guy is the worst manager in the history of the American presidency.
00:41:25.000 Either way, Republicans should listen to what he says.
00:41:28.000 He's a petulant child when someone disagrees with him.
00:41:31.000 Okay, so this is going to be, you know, one of the big pushes is going to be the character push against Donald Trump.
00:41:38.000 The problem is that that's not actually where the debate against Donald Trump is going to happen.
00:41:43.000 Everyone knows Trump at this point.
00:41:44.000 It's like any of this is shock.
00:41:45.000 Like people who love him, love him.
00:41:46.000 And people love him specifically because he's wild and crazy and they feel like he can use that wild and crazy on their own behalf.
00:41:52.000 The reason that Chris Christie's attack doesn't have any sort of actual sea legs is also because Christie is very wavery on policy himself.
00:41:59.000 So for example, Chris Christie, same guy who's attacking Trump with regards to his personnel decisions, is ripping on conservatives who are trying to stop parents who are transing their kids.
00:42:10.000 So here's Chris Christie.
00:42:12.000 As governor of New Jersey, you signed into law some legal protections for trans people, including students.
00:42:18.000 What do you make of your fellow Republican governors and candidates going in the opposite direction?
00:42:26.000 Jake, what I believe we should be focused on most importantly in these issues is making sure there is parental involvement at every step along the way.
00:42:35.000 I don't think that the government should ever be stepping into the place of the parents in helping to move their children through a process where those children are confused or concerned about their gender.
00:42:49.000 And I just would say that parents are the people who are best positioned to make these judgments.
00:42:55.000 Okay, so that's Chris Christie being bad on policy.
00:42:57.000 So the question people are going to ask is Chris Christie's ripping on Trump on personnel.
00:43:02.000 He was one of the personnel.
00:43:04.000 Also, he's wrong on policy, which opens the door for policy, okay?
00:43:08.000 And that's really where the attack is going to come.
00:43:10.000 So if the reason that you don't like Chris Christie is because Chris Christie, while he's saying true things about the personnel, is really bad on policy, saying that like parents should be able to trans their kids, here's the problem.
00:43:18.000 Hey, Trump has some real political problems here, not only with regard to COVID.
00:43:22.000 One of the disadvantages that Ron DeSantis has right now against Trump is that everybody forgot about COVID being like the worst thing in the world in terms of governance.
00:43:29.000 People forgot that they literally moved.
00:43:30.000 Like, I moved my family, at least in part, because of the COVID regime in California, to Florida, where Governor DeSantis is the governor.
00:43:37.000 People don't want to talk about COVID anymore.
00:43:38.000 They kind of want to put it in the back of their brains.
00:43:40.000 But here's the problem for Trump. 0.77
00:43:41.000 Trump is a mess when it comes to his own political Sort of bona fides.
00:43:45.000 So, for example, tape emerged over the weekend of Donald Trump really pushing pretty hard trans propaganda. 0.94
00:43:52.000 Back when he was the head of the Miss Universe contest, back when he owned the thing, he was very much in favor of men competing with women.
00:44:00.000 This is a young woman who, according to the laws of Canada and according to the laws of the United States, is allowed to enter the pageant system. 0.96
00:44:08.000 What I did is I said, we have 58 contestants in Canada.
00:44:12.000 I said, let her run and maybe she'll win. 1.00
00:44:15.000 And if she wins, she'll go to Miss Universe. 0.92
00:44:17.000 And I think I made the right decision.
00:44:19.000 I feel fine with the decision.
00:44:20.000 I mean, that was Donald Trump.
00:44:22.000 Not that long ago.
00:44:22.000 Years later, Trump has done a 180, making the repealing of transgender rights a central part of his 2024 campaign speech.
00:44:32.000 No serious country should be telling its children that they were born with the wrong gender.
00:44:37.000 We will defeat the cult of gender ideology to reassert that God created two genders, male and female.
00:44:45.000 And here's another beauty.
00:44:47.000 I will keep men out of women's sports. 0.99
00:44:51.000 Okay, so that flip-flop is not exactly good.
00:44:54.000 But again, very, very Trumpian.
00:44:56.000 This does open the door for candidates who are able to actually attack Trump on policy.
00:45:00.000 And again, this is why DeSantis is largely considered his most viable rival, is because DeSantis is certainly very, very consistent on policy.
00:45:09.000 So over the weekend, DeSantis was campaigning, and in one of his sort of big campaign moments, he was at a bar, and he was asked what he wanted.
00:45:15.000 He said anything but Bud Light.
00:45:18.000 Just so you know, I'll serve you anything except my money.
00:45:25.000 Meanwhile, by the way, you can see where the media's interest lies.
00:45:28.000 The media is going after Casey DeSantis with alacrity.
00:45:30.000 It's astonishing.
00:45:31.000 I really have not seen the media go after any politician's wife this way.
00:45:35.000 Maybe ever, actually.
00:45:36.000 Like, just a person who's running in a primary, not just a person who's won a general election nomination or something.
00:45:41.000 They went after Melania, but nothing remotely like this.
00:45:44.000 The basic idea here is that Casey DeSantis is Lady Macbeth.
00:45:47.000 Giselle Federman, who literally took a brain-damaged husband and ran him for Senate.
00:45:51.000 She's great.
00:45:52.000 She's wonderful.
00:45:53.000 I mean, the guy literally can't speak anymore, but she's amazing. 1.00
00:45:56.000 When I say he can't speak anymore, I literally have a clip of John of John Fetterman introducing Joe Biden, and it is the most awkward, horrifying thing.
00:46:03.000 You want to talk about just.
00:46:05.000 Some some real severe lack of neural connections here between Joe Biden and John Fetterman on this stage, my goodness.
00:46:12.000 The president again next to a collapsed bridge here, and he is here to commit to work with the governor and the Delegation to make sure that we get this fixed fast as well, too.
00:46:26.000 This is a president that is committed to infrastructure.
00:46:30.000 And then on top of that, the jewel kind of law of the infrastructure bill.
00:46:41.000 Joe Biden is the only person who understands what the hell John Fetterman is talking about right there.
00:46:49.000 Gisele Fetterman who ran this guy and maintains him in the Senate, however, she's great. 0.94
00:46:53.000 But Casey DeSantis is super bad. 1.00
00:46:54.000 There's an entire article in the Washington Post today titled, Tracing the Power of Casey DeSantis.
00:47:00.000 Where's Casey?
00:47:01.000 Ron was asking.
00:47:01.000 Where is she at?
00:47:02.000 Ron was always asking.
00:47:04.000 Ron DeSantis was in the middle of a picnic in Sioux City, Iowa, bent over a homemade poster.
00:47:07.000 Four photos arranged in a neat grid stared back at him.
00:47:10.000 Ron and Casey smiling on election night 2022.
00:47:12.000 Ron and Casey smiling outside the governor's mansion 2021.
00:47:14.000 A headshot of Ron, a headshot of Casey.
00:47:16.000 The governor signed his name in the corner, leaving room for his wife's signature.
00:47:19.000 He was the one running for president, but of course she should sign it too.
00:47:21.000 I don't know where the first lady is, but she'll do it, he said. 0.82
00:47:23.000 Casey was on the other side of the room.
00:47:25.000 She knew, starting with his early days in politics when Ron was still a member of Congress, elected at the age of 34, how she wanted to figure in his world.
00:47:31.000 She knew the staff he should hire, former aide said, the invitations he should accept, the invitations he should decline.
00:47:36.000 That is one of two articles over the weekend about how terrible it is that Ron DeSantis has a young family that is involved in his political career.
00:47:43.000 The New York Times has an entire article titled, Ron DeSantis is young, has little kids, and wants America to know it.
00:47:48.000 At 44, he is more than three decades younger than Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
00:47:51.000 He is subtly playing up that age gap, even if his right-wing views leave him out of step with many younger voters.
00:47:55.000 It's bad!
00:47:56.000 It's bad he has young kids.
00:47:57.000 What you really need is an 80-year-old president who doesn't even acknowledge one of his grandchildren.
00:48:01.000 That's what you really, really need.
00:48:03.000 The fear and hatred they have of DeSantis is much stronger in the media than the fear and hatred they have of Donald Trump.
00:48:07.000 I mean, it's a dirty little secret, but it's not much of a secret.
00:48:10.000 They want Trump nominated because they think Trump is more beatable than DeSantis, right or wrong.
00:48:13.000 They may get it the hard way.
00:48:14.000 They may get Trump as the nominee, and then they may lose to him.
00:48:16.000 That's certainly what they think at this point.
00:48:18.000 Meanwhile, Joe Biden continues to collapse as a human being.
00:48:22.000 Over the weekend, he ended a speech by thanking the Queen.
00:48:26.000 I don't know why.
00:48:28.000 No one knows why, as it turns out.
00:48:31.000 As that scene in the John Wayne movie, don't make me a dog-faced lion pony soldier.
00:48:38.000 All right?
00:48:39.000 God save the Queen, man.
00:48:42.000 God save the Queen, man.
00:48:44.000 Axios then ran a piece titled, Biden's Weird Words.
00:48:48.000 President Biden often uses old-timey expressions that confound even his own staff.
00:48:52.000 That happened again Friday when he ended a speech on gun violence with, God save the Queen, man.
00:48:56.000 Later, the White House didn't respond when Axios asked what Biden had meant.
00:48:59.000 Yeah, it is.
00:49:00.000 It's weird and quirky.
00:49:01.000 Not that he is no longer functional.
00:49:03.000 By the way, he's no longer functional!
00:49:04.000 Look at a picture of the man.
00:49:06.000 The White House released this picture of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
00:49:10.000 I don't even know what to say about the picture.
00:49:13.000 The caption is, the duo that gets the job done.
00:49:15.000 And for those who can't see it, it is Joe Biden looking as though he is being guided through physical therapy by a nurse.
00:49:21.000 He's grinning weirdly, like, in absent fashion at Kamala Harris while she holds both of his hands and grins like a cackling crazy person. 0.58
00:49:31.000 It does.
00:49:32.000 It looks like an AI.
00:49:33.000 Producer Zack says it looks like an AI.
00:49:34.000 It does.
00:49:34.000 It looks like an AI.
00:49:35.000 It's like if I just typed in weird Biden and Kamala Harris dancing into AI, it would come up looking exactly like this.
00:49:42.000 It's so weird. 0.96
00:49:43.000 He's a weirdo. 1.00
00:49:44.000 He's also an ignorant weirdo, by the way. 1.00
00:49:47.000 But, you know, this is the reason, going back to RFK Jr. 0.99
00:49:50.000 Want to know why RFK Jr.
00:49:51.000 has durability?
00:49:52.000 It ain't because he's right on vaccines.
00:49:53.000 It's because RFK Jr.
00:49:54.000 is not Joe Biden and Joe Biden is no longer functional.
00:49:56.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then some things I hate.
00:49:58.000 And today, we have a very special Deconstructing the Culture.
00:50:01.000 So, things I like today.
00:50:03.000 So, we begin with a book that I finally had a chance to read over the weekend.
00:50:06.000 I'm only about 30 years late on this one.
00:50:08.000 It's called Remains of the Day.
00:50:10.000 Mike Hazua Ishiguro.
00:50:12.000 Ishiguro.
00:50:13.000 This was made into a movie originally with Anthony Hopkins and Emma Thompson.
00:50:18.000 It is, in fact, a very good movie.
00:50:20.000 The book is better than the movie.
00:50:21.000 It's a beautifully, beautifully written book.
00:50:26.000 The basic premise of the book is there's a butler and he is going to meet the lead housekeeper at this estate where he was the butler.
00:50:35.000 You know, 20 years after he's last seen her at the estate.
00:50:38.000 And it's him reminiscing as he goes to meet her about what it was like to be butler for a person who's essentially supposed to be a Neville Chamberlain type.
00:50:46.000 And how he sacrificed all of his life ambitions in order to help this person sort of achieve his life ambitions and what that meant for him.
00:50:57.000 The movie is much more about the supposed romance between the two characters.
00:51:00.000 That's not really what the book is about.
00:51:01.000 The book is better than the movie.
00:51:02.000 And so if you have time to read the book, you really should.
00:51:04.000 The book is largely about subsuming your own ambitions in favor of broader political or moral goals.
00:51:11.000 I will say that the book, not to be a spoiler about it, but the book is sort of stacked in favor of the idea that one should never do this, when I don't think that that's actually the proper argument to be made.
00:51:20.000 But it is a fascinating examination of class divides inside Britain.
00:51:25.000 It's also a fascinating examination of what it means to put aside personal wants, needs,
00:51:30.000 and ambitions in favor of sort of a higher goal and subsuming your own judgment in favor
00:51:35.000 of the judgment of another.
00:51:36.000 Really, really interesting book, remains of the day.
00:51:38.000 Okay, other things that I like.
00:51:40.000 So Bill Simmons, who is certainly no right winger, he is the founder of the Ringer podcast
00:51:46.000 network.
00:51:47.000 to be very involved at Spotify. They made him an executive over there when they
00:51:50.000 signed him. And he sounded off on Harry and Meghan whose $20 million
00:51:55.000 deal has now collapsed at Spotify because it turns out nobody wants to 0.78
00:51:57.000 listen to these whining grifters. Bill Simmons apparently has the same opinion
00:52:00.000 about them that I do.
00:52:01.000 You do a lot of business deals, a lot of negotiations.
00:52:05.000 I do?
00:52:06.000 Well, let's just...
00:52:08.000 I wish I had been involved in the Megan and Harry leave Spotify negotiation. 0.99
00:52:12.000 The f*** Rifters. 1.00
00:52:14.000 That's the podcast we should have launched with them. 0.98
00:52:17.000 I gotta get drunk one night and tell the story of the Zoom I had with Harry to try to help him with the podcast idea.
00:52:22.000 Do it!
00:52:22.000 It's one of my best stories.
00:52:24.000 One of the things that we are now finding out, apparently, is that Megan, she did a podcast that nobody listened to, and that podcast was interview-centric.
00:52:32.000 Apparently, she had her producers interview everybody, and then she cut in her questions, so she didn't even sit in the same room as the people she was interviewing, and the entire pod- it's not like that was like a section of her podcast, it was like the entire podcast!
00:52:42.000 Which is pretty amazing stuff there from Harry and Meghan.
00:52:46.000 When Bill Simmons is even trashing Harry and Meghan, I think that the gravy train for those two is over, which I'm here for.
00:52:53.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.
00:52:55.000 I really only have one thing I hate today because the thing that I really hate is the
00:53:02.000 deconstructing the culture segment, which is going to make me want to rip off my own ears van Gogh style.
00:53:07.000 But the thing that I hate today, Corinne Jean-Pierre, I'm so tired of people declaring themselves historic because of, you know, who they want to have sex with and also the color of their skin.
00:53:16.000 It's really, really tiresome.
00:53:18.000 So Corinne Jean-Pierre over the weekend declared herself historic, which again, if you're really historic, you don't need to say it yourself.
00:53:23.000 Other people will say it of you.
00:53:25.000 Lincoln wasn't like, you know who I am?
00:53:26.000 I'm super historic.
00:53:28.000 Come on.
00:53:30.000 A year in this role, there's been a couple of things that has made me incredibly proud.
00:53:36.000 Many things, many things that made me incredibly proud to be at that podium during this historic moment.
00:53:41.000 Again, this is a historic administration.
00:53:44.000 I'm a historic figure and I certainly walk in history every day, but this is also a historic-making administration because of this president.
00:53:52.000 She is so historic, guys.
00:53:53.000 I mean, she is historic.
00:53:54.000 She's the worst press secretary in the history of the United States. 1.00
00:53:56.000 She's horrible at her job. 1.00
00:53:58.000 Horrible. 0.99
00:53:59.000 But we live in a world where that doesn't matter nearly as much as the fact that she is a black queer woman. 0.96
00:54:04.000 And this apparently makes her super duper duper historic. 0.90
00:54:07.000 Okay.
00:54:08.000 It's time to do something we haven't done in a while.
00:54:09.000 We have to deconstruct the culture.
00:54:10.000 Let's do this thing.
00:54:12.000 Okay, so today is Deconstructing the Culture.
00:54:14.000 I have been informed by the interwebs that there is a person who has literal face tattoos.
00:54:20.000 So this is like face tattoo syndrome all over.
00:54:23.000 Who calls herself Sexy Red. 1.00
00:54:25.000 Sexy is spelled with two Ys.
00:54:26.000 I don't know what the second Y adds to the pronunciation.
00:54:29.000 It's Sexy Red.
00:54:32.000 Also her given name.
00:54:33.000 Probably she came out of her mother and her mother said, Behold, I shall call you Sexy Red. 1.00
00:54:37.000 And she apparently has become a bit of a thing, she's like in the hot 100 now, because of a song titled Pound Town, which is about the glories of Shakespeare, as you might imagine, and the joys of the works of Ralph Vaughan Williams.
00:54:55.000 Or alternatively not.
00:54:59.000 She just does really, really bad rap, but she has a lot of extraordinarily graphic content in her rap.
00:55:06.000 So I was made aware of this particular clip, which I'll play in a moment.
00:55:10.000 But first, I want to do a bit of a review of her musical history.
00:55:13.000 Apparently, her first song was a song called A Thousand Jugs.
00:55:21.000 And this is based on the song A Thousand Miles by Vanessa Carlton.
00:55:27.000 I don't know if she even bothered to get the rights to this, but it is one of the worst things ever, ever, ever in human history.
00:55:34.000 And it's only surpassed by her new song, Pound Town.
00:55:38.000 And yes, folks, this is the height of human civilization.
00:55:41.000 We have achieved it.
00:55:41.000 It is the apex of human civilization.
00:55:43.000 Here is Sexy Yee Red in a thousand jugs. 0.99
00:55:49.000 Here we go.
00:56:00.000 It hasn't started yet.
00:56:01.000 She's not good at singing.
00:56:03.000 We're taboo, all his homeboys think I'm cute.
00:56:06.000 Do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
00:56:08.000 Do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
00:56:09.000 She's not good at singing.
00:56:11.000 Auto-tune, guys.
00:56:12.000 10-5, told his aunt, bet nine and I've tried nine.
00:56:16.000 Bah-bah-bah-bah-bah-bah-bah. 0.99
00:56:18.000 You get killed too. 0.99
00:56:19.000 Bah-bah-bah-bah-bah-bah-bah. 1.00
00:56:20.000 I could've killed you. 1.00
00:56:21.000 Bah-bah-bah-bah-bah-bah-bah. 1.00
00:56:23.000 You lost a tennis shoe.
00:56:24.000 Bah-bah-bah-bah-bah-bah. 0.99
00:56:25.000 This is about murdering people, by the way. 0.98
00:56:26.000 I should point out that the lyrics are her actually talking about murdering people. 0.99
00:56:30.000 Okay, like, you may have missed that in you wanting to rip out half of your own brain and throw it in the river in order to avoid hearing that anymore.
00:56:39.000 But she took a song by Vanessa Carlton and she made it into a murder rap It's making my way through the hood. 1.00
00:56:50.000 With your boo, all his homeboys think I'm cute.
00:56:52.000 Ridin' round, tinted five, toting his iron, which I assume is a gun.
00:56:55.000 Better not, nah.
00:56:56.000 Op, try nothing.
00:56:57.000 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, you gettin' filled too. 0.99
00:57:00.000 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, I could've killed you. 0.59
00:57:04.000 So, I didn't realize, like, points for creativity in turning A Thousand Miles into a murder song. 0.97
00:57:10.000 I did not see that coming.
00:57:13.000 Her Sarah McLachlan rendition is gonna be lit.
00:57:16.000 Okay, but that is not her latest song, right?
00:57:19.000 That one is not a famous song because no one's ever heard of that.
00:57:21.000 Her famous song is way worse, like way worse. 0.63
00:57:24.000 It makes WAP look childhood friendly.
00:57:27.000 Okay, this is like, we've reached new levels.
00:57:30.000 We've now reached the level of transgressivism where it's not even like what it used to be.
00:57:36.000 That in the world where we had traditional notions about sex and marriage and stuff, That art that was transgressive was kind of sexy, because it was transgressive.
00:57:45.000 And then we transgressed further, and then still further.
00:57:47.000 And we have now transgressed to the point where the transgressivism sounds like a third grader doing a clinical description of bodily orifices.
00:57:56.000 That's where we are.
00:57:59.000 So, here is SexyYeaYeaYeaYeaYea, you read, singing, I'm putting that generously, the song Pound Town.
00:58:07.000 Is this Poundtown 2 or Poundtown 1?
00:58:09.000 I'm not sure.
00:58:10.000 Apparently there's a Poundtown 2 that fe- This is Poundtown 1.
00:58:13.000 Poundtown 2 is the sequel.
00:58:16.000 The sequel, More Pounding.
00:58:18.000 Poundtown 2, More Pounding.
00:58:24.000 Our civilization, it's in the best of hands.
00:58:27.000 Poundtown 1, A New Hope.
00:58:29.000 Poundtown 2, Return of the Pound.
00:58:34.000 PoundTown 3, I assume, has Ewoks, because PoundTown 2 has Nicki Minaj in it.
00:58:39.000 But this is PoundTown 1.
00:58:40.000 Okay, so before we get to PoundTown 2, before we get to the return of PoundTown, we have to start with PoundTown 1.
00:58:46.000 And I pitched it pretty strongly here, so here we are.
00:58:48.000 our sexy red in pound town.
00:58:51.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. Wow. What? I'm out of town. Thuggin with my round. My
00:59:06.000 pink, my brown. What? I'm looking for the whole town. Just let's pound town. He just
00:59:18.000 took a down. Yeah, down. Yeah, down. Just let's pound town. 0.99
00:59:33.000 Oh, we'll make a multimillionaire.
00:59:41.000 This person.
00:59:42.000 Yep, and when I said that this person makes Cardi B sound like a kindergarten school teacher, I don't mean like the Drag Queen Story Hour person, I mean like an actual kindergarten school teacher, yeah.
00:59:54.000 I'm so hesitant to read the lyrics to this thing out loud.
00:59:58.000 It's gonna be even more meme-able than WAP, if I do.
01:00:01.000 But you know what, it has to be done.
01:00:03.000 I can't live with myself reading it, and I can't live with myself not reading it.
01:00:08.000 So, for all those who are watching this now, on the left, this is me reading the lyrics to Poundtown because it is the worst thing ever written, and it is hilariously bad, and I can't stop myself from laughing.
01:00:21.000 Okay, you ready?
01:00:21.000 Here we go.
01:00:22.000 I'm out of town, thuggin' with my rounds, my coochie pink, my booty hole brown. 0.88
01:00:29.000 We're now doing color descriptions of bodily orifices.
01:00:33.000 My booger's green, my earwax orange, But nothing rhymes with orange.
01:00:40.000 Where's the N-words?
01:00:41.000 I'm lookin' for the hoes. 1.00
01:00:43.000 Quit playin', N-word! 1.00
01:00:45.000 Come suck a b**ch toe. 1.00
01:00:49.000 Mm. 1.00
01:00:50.000 Indeed.
01:00:50.000 Indeed.
01:00:51.000 Well spet.
01:00:52.000 Well said.
01:00:53.000 Poundtown just left Poundtown. 0.99
01:00:57.000 With my N-word, he took a b**ch down. 1.00
01:01:00.000 Yeah, that N-word. 0.99
01:01:02.000 B**ch a b**ch down. 1.00
01:01:05.000 Yeah, that N-word. 0.97
01:01:07.000 And it just continues along these lines.
01:01:10.000 And my favorite part of this is where she actually opens applications for a stepfather for her child.
01:01:17.000 That's my favorite part is where she like opens the resumes up.
01:01:19.000 So she's like, uh-uh, I'm out here in Miami.
01:01:24.000 Again, remember, the NAACP has put a travel warning on Miami for black people.
01:01:27.000 So I don't even know how she's living out down here in Florida.
01:01:29.000 I just don't know.
01:01:30.000 I mean, obviously she's in serious danger in pound town.
01:01:34.000 She says, uh-uh, I'm out here in Miami, looking for the hoochie daddies, where they at? 1.00
01:01:40.000 Where the N-words, get that ratchet, where they at?
01:01:43.000 My son need a new pappy. 1.00
01:01:46.000 Well, that seems like, this all seems like an amazing way of capturing an excellent father for your son.
01:01:51.000 I'm so glad that you've decided to open applications by describing the color of your booty hole.
01:01:58.000 That is, like, that is a great way to find a spouse. 1.00
01:02:03.000 It's just walk around singing songs about the color of your ass. 1.00
01:02:09.000 Hole. 1.00
01:02:10.000 That's good.
01:02:13.000 You know I'm sexy, I'm the best. 1.00
01:02:15.000 I'm the s-word, little bitch. 1.00
01:02:16.000 I'm that. 1.00
01:02:17.000 You know it.
01:02:18.000 I can't say his name because he be cheating.
01:02:21.000 Yeah, and I'm the reason.
01:02:24.000 What Suki say? 1.00
01:02:25.000 It just gets worse.
01:02:27.000 But the important thing is that I think we've all learned something here today.
01:02:32.000 I don't know what we've learned here today, but it's something.
01:02:37.000 And apparently, Nicki Minaj found it necessary to do a second version of Poundtown.
01:02:43.000 I was hoping that it was Poundtown Roman Numeral 2.
01:02:47.000 It is not.
01:02:47.000 It's just Poundtown 2.
01:02:50.000 Like Zootopia 2.
01:02:51.000 It's not like, you know, Empire Strikes Back or something.
01:02:57.000 And Nicki Minaj was like, this is real talent.
01:03:00.000 I'm putting myself on this album.
01:03:03.000 Oh, the values.