The Ben Shapiro Show - September 02, 2026


My Response to Piers Morgan and Milo Yiannopoulos


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00:00:00.000 Don't follow the retardo sphere.
00:00:03.000 If you do, you may end up deported, bleary eyed, cross eyed on Piers Morgan's Jerry Springer click bordello.
00:00:11.000 This is the theme of today's show.
00:00:12.000 There are lots and lots of people in our public life who grift for clicks and cash.
00:00:16.000 And you can tell who they are by the fact that they shift their views and their personas on a routine basis, kaleidoscopically.
00:00:22.000 You're constantly asking yourself, hey, what happened to that guy?
00:00:24.000 What happened to her?
00:00:26.000 They didn't used to be that way.
00:00:28.000 We're going to go through some of these people because they are, in fact, shaping our political life in all the dumbest ways.
00:00:32.000 Because people love politics.
00:00:34.000 Car wrecks, like they like to watch car wrecks.
00:00:35.000 A lot of these people get pretty good numbers, and then they use those numbers to proclaim that they are on the cutting edge of populist politics, and then actual political figures follow them.
00:00:44.000 So here is a solution.
00:00:46.000 Do not donate your attention to them.
00:00:49.000 There are only so many breaths you have in this life, and you're not going to get these breaths back.
00:00:53.000 We'll get to Milo Giannopoulos' tragic deportation story, complete with tears and weirdness.
00:00:58.000 Plus, Tyler Robinson's murder of Charlie Kirk is headed to trial, and Hunter Biden announces he likes dudes because, hey, why not?
00:01:06.000 This is the Ben Shapiro show.
00:01:13.000 Now, listen, I get that even by talking about these terrible people, I'm giving a lot of them more attention than any of them deserve.
00:01:19.000 But here's the thing they already have a lot of attention, and pointing out and warning you that they deserve not that attention is the idea.
00:01:27.000 If you don't know what they're doing and if you don't know how they're rigging the game, then you're not going to be able to avoid it.
00:01:32.000 The verse from Deuteronomy has come true.
00:01:35.000 Each evening, I go to sleep thinking it certainly cannot be more retarded than it was this morning.
00:01:40.000 And then I wake up in the morning and I think, oh God, I just wish it were as retarded as it were last night.
00:01:45.000 So, for those who don't know, there is a human named Milo Yiannopoulos.
00:01:50.000 And he was pretty popular for a short period of time back in 2015, 2016, as a flamboyantly gay man saying transgressively edgelord things.
00:01:59.000 He was a brainchild of Steve Bannon, another political grifter.
00:02:02.000 And then it turned out that Milo Yiannopoulos was very much in favor of priesting underage boys as a sort of maturation process.
00:02:09.000 He said that on tape.
00:02:10.000 And then things kind of imploded on him.
00:02:12.000 But.
00:02:12.000 Whoopsie.
00:02:13.000 No one ever really goes away.
00:02:16.000 He stuck around.
00:02:17.000 He interned for Marjorie Taylor Greene, another great intellect of our time, because the retarded Griffin Employment Network is alive and well.
00:02:24.000 He appeared as a guest on Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens because, well, you know, he ran a campaign with Kanye West.
00:02:31.000 And, oh, yes, he became a supposedly ex gay man who was militantly Christian.
00:02:37.000 And then it turns out he overstayed his visa and he was deported because he was here illegally.
00:02:43.000 And now he's showing up on Piers Morgan's show because.
00:02:47.000 Of course he is.
00:02:48.000 Of course he is.
00:02:49.000 Because Piers Morgan is the Bonnie Blue of politics, a total click whore who revels in the fact that he has thousands upon thousands of Johns and he will put it on video for you to watch and monetize.
00:02:59.000 And this brings us to last night's hilarious, entertaining multiple clown car crash on Piers Morgan's show.
00:03:04.000 I mean, pretty much carnage.
00:03:07.000 Hilarious, hilarious carnage.
00:03:10.000 And again, I'm not somebody who tends to revel in the suffering of people who are deported.
00:03:16.000 I've not been in favor of much of the triumphalist.
00:03:19.000 Rhetoric online when it comes to deportation.
00:03:21.000 But when you spend your entire political career being the worst human being possible, and then you get deported in pretty quick fashion, and then you go on Piers Morgan's clickbordello in order to lament your own tragic mistreatment, I'm sorry, Scheudenfreude's a thing.
00:03:39.000 So here was Milo Yiannopoulos.
00:03:42.000 So you know who Milo Yiannopoulos is, so that you understand just what a terrible person he is.
00:03:47.000 Back in February of 2025, Milo tweeted this I effing love tyranny.
00:03:55.000 Again, he was a person who was very much in favor of the brutal treatment of pretty much everybody.
00:04:01.000 He's also the kind of person who, after Dennis Prager had his tragic accident in which he broke his spine and ended up paralyzed, he tweeted God's wrath has found Dennis Prager and his many and terrible sins.
00:04:11.000 I gather he fell recently out of the shower and severed his spinal column, paralyzed, quivering, drooling, silenced.
00:04:17.000 Such a freakish accident worthy of final destination.
00:04:20.000 What to call it but an act of God?
00:04:21.000 So that's who Milo Yiannopoulos is.
00:04:23.000 It's important to recognize this.
00:04:25.000 Before you fall for his drama queen trick.
00:04:28.000 Now he gets to be the drama queen of England, which is exciting.
00:04:31.000 So, all this is crazy.
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00:05:38.000 So he's been deported back to his homeland.
00:05:41.000 And here he was describing his horrific treatment.
00:05:44.000 By the way, he basically was picked up and deported within 24 hours.
00:05:47.000 He didn't wait for months in a cell with MS 13 members, which Milo may have enjoyed.
00:05:52.000 But here was Milo.
00:05:55.000 Sure, it was humiliating and it was disorientating and all the rest of it.
00:05:58.000 It was physically degrading.
00:05:59.000 Disorientating.
00:06:00.000 It was frightening.
00:06:01.000 It was frightening.
00:06:02.000 I don't think I've ever been frightened like that before.
00:06:04.000 Just not really.
00:06:05.000 How emotional have you been through this period?
00:06:08.000 I've never been like this before.
00:06:11.000 I tripped and kind of tumbled down the stairs a night or two ago.
00:06:13.000 And, you know, I'm a clumsy person, so that it's not the rarest thing in the world.
00:06:18.000 But it set something off from when I'd been kind of, you know, shoved down a couple of steps.
00:06:24.000 And I was weeping like an old woman for an hour.
00:06:26.000 And I was like, oh, I really have got to get this out of my system.
00:06:30.000 I think maybe in the past I've been a little bit blase when people talked about their trauma, a little bit kind of cavalier when people talked about.
00:06:41.000 You know, stuff kind of lingering with them, but I get it now.
00:06:45.000 And I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
00:06:49.000 He literally wished it on everyone.
00:06:51.000 Literally, he did that.
00:06:53.000 So, yeah, playing the sympathy card here, Manude, that's going to be a no on that.
00:07:00.000 He also says that 15 agents swarmed him and he didn't eat for 24 hours.
00:07:03.000 24 whole hours he didn't eat?
00:07:06.000 I mean, looks like he could stand to miss a meal or two, but in any case.
00:07:11.000 The first I heard of it was when 15 agents swarmed me at Louisiana Airport.
00:07:20.000 And it didn't get any less theatrical from there on.
00:07:24.000 I was moved.
00:07:27.000 I didn't eat for 24 hours.
00:07:29.000 I was promised a nurse that never came.
00:07:31.000 I was promised a phone call that never came.
00:07:33.000 I was promised all kinds of things that never came.
00:07:34.000 I mean, just about everything that you hear that people are supposed to have as far as rights and abilities when they get arrested, I did not have.
00:07:43.000 Nobody would tell me anything.
00:07:46.000 Oh man, the suffering.
00:07:48.000 Oh.
00:07:50.000 This other host might say, oh.
00:07:52.000 And then Milo says that actually, two of the agents were so offended that they walked off the job, which I don't believe for one solid, single, solitary second.
00:08:02.000 Two of the ICE agents during this process recognized me from 2016 when I was a big supporter of the president.
00:08:10.000 And one of them said something along the lines of, yeah, I'm not doing this.
00:08:17.000 And the other one said something along the lines of, this is not what I got into this for.
00:08:21.000 And at least one of them, and I think two of them, walked off the job because they didn't want to do it.
00:08:26.000 And another pairing of vice agents who took me to the airport in Houston told me that they were getting calls from Washington every 20 minutes.
00:08:34.000 Like, where is he?
00:08:35.000 Where is he?
00:08:35.000 Where is he?
00:08:36.000 This was not a normal, lawful process.
00:08:41.000 Okay, so Grifty McGriftalot is back in Britain.
00:08:46.000 Piers Morgan had some very specific questions for Milo Yiannopoulos, who claims to be ex gay.
00:08:51.000 And by ex gay, we mean he's not ex gay.
00:08:55.000 He says that he is married to a man that he does not have sex with, which, of course, Pierce was all over this one.
00:09:01.000 Because when you run the click Bordella, you got to find out what's happening in all of the rental rooms.
00:09:08.000 So, what family do you have back in America at the moment?
00:09:11.000 Your wife?
00:09:12.000 Well, I'm married to an American.
00:09:13.000 I've got dependents, I've got cats, I've got employees.
00:09:18.000 I have a whole life there.
00:09:19.000 I've been there for 10 years.
00:09:21.000 Everything is there.
00:09:21.000 You're married to an American woman?
00:09:23.000 No.
00:09:25.000 Man.
00:09:26.000 I don't want to pry into your sexuality.
00:09:29.000 I know you've, I mean, you're a gay man and you're married to a gay man.
00:09:33.000 I, yes, I don't.
00:09:35.000 I don't do the sex stuff anymore, but yes.
00:09:37.000 Listen, I'm only asking because I just want to know what family you have left in America.
00:09:37.000 Okay.
00:09:40.000 Yeah.
00:09:41.000 Where is your spouse?
00:09:44.000 Living in the same house at the other end of the corridor.
00:09:48.000 In which state is this?
00:09:49.000 This is in California.
00:09:50.000 In California, in LA?
00:09:51.000 Yes.
00:09:52.000 Right.
00:09:55.000 Hmm.
00:09:57.000 I'm just going to put out that we don't need this person in our country.
00:09:57.000 Hmm.
00:10:00.000 We do not.
00:10:01.000 We never needed this person in our country, as it turns out, actually.
00:10:04.000 He put out an entire piece at the Spectator because, again, Drama Queen's going to Drama Queen.
00:10:08.000 It is titled, I Am a Persecuted Human Rights Icon, which, of course, he's a victim.
00:10:14.000 He's such a victim that he's enjoying this.
00:10:15.000 I mean, I'm not sure that Yiannopoulos enjoys this kind of thing.
00:10:19.000 He's really enjoying this.
00:10:20.000 The attention is what gives him his high.
00:10:23.000 Quote Like it or not, this makes me a political prisoner, a persecuted human rights icon.
00:10:27.000 I am Mahatma Gandhi.
00:10:29.000 I am Nelson Mandela.
00:10:31.000 Without my rosary, I prayed on the plane with open hands instead.
00:10:34.000 That still works.
00:10:36.000 So do motions to reopen.
00:10:37.000 I'll be fine.
00:10:38.000 I had a frightening weekend.
00:10:39.000 This will be an expensive few months.
00:10:40.000 I will make it home eventually.
00:10:42.000 I miss my Bengals more than any American person.
00:10:45.000 There, see, still again, but not so cruel as America still wedded at age 250 to brazen corruption and barbarism.
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00:11:55.000 Well, unfortunately, it feels like the scavengers are on the rise.
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00:12:42.000 Okay, so why are we paying attention to all of this, right?
00:12:44.000 I mean, why aren't we just ignoring all this?
00:12:47.000 Okay, the reason we have to pay attention to this is because lots of people pay attention to this stuff.
00:12:50.000 And I would like to point out at this point that we should all collectively make the decision not to.
00:12:56.000 The reality is this the political incentive structure in this country has been skewed by the attention economy.
00:13:02.000 There's a book called Collective Illusions, where psychology professor Todd Rose talks about how people tend to follow people based on how many people they think are following that person.
00:13:12.000 What he calls a collective illusion.
00:13:14.000 He says if people can see one another's choices, and if they're merely copying each other, wisdom becomes stupidity in a hurry.
00:13:21.000 In doubting our own judgment and defaulting to conformity, we transform ourselves from individuals into members of the herd.
00:13:26.000 And before we know it, the seed of error can become a copying cascade that devours all other knowledge and leaves a collective illusion in its wake.
00:13:32.000 It's terrifyingly easy to start a copying cascade.
00:13:35.000 And well, the copying cascade online is extraordinarily easy to start.
00:13:41.000 This is, by the way, the reason why, for example, Piers Morgan's defense to literally every charge of immorality is that he gets lots of clicks.
00:13:47.000 Because his idea is that if he gets lots of clicks, then that means other people will agree with him because he's getting a lot of the clicks.
00:13:53.000 Now, listen, it turns out. that political pornography involving rubber chickens and Milo Yiannopoulos' chased gay marriage will probably get some clicks.
00:14:02.000 But that doesn't mean that you should follow that.
00:14:05.000 It doesn't mean that the attention economy ought to dictate politics.
00:14:09.000 And if people fall for that intellectual trap, you got a problem.
00:14:12.000 It turns out that when the public starts to substitute clicks for judgment, then people end up following some of the most idiotic and immoral people internationally and in America.
00:14:22.000 Well, you know, the grifter industrial complex is Quite real.
00:14:25.000 And it includes a bunch of people who have some level of popularity on the right.
00:14:28.000 That includes people like, say, Andrew Tate or Alex Jones.
00:14:31.000 So, sort of fascinating investigation into Andrew Tate's little fake empire.
00:14:37.000 It turns out his own defense lawyers are now claiming that he was renting all those expensive cars and all the rest.
00:14:42.000 Well, according to Straight Arrow News, a leak of sensitive information from the Manosphere influencer Andrew Tate's online empire reveals his war room program teaches men to accumulate wealth, attract and control women, and penetrate the elite, including by exploiting the sexual misbehavior of wealthy acquaintances.
00:15:00.000 So, apparently, his penetrating the elite class in his war room program offers espionage training for subscribers aimed at digging up secrets on wealthy individuals for leverage in business deals.
00:15:11.000 So, literally running an Epstein scam by literally trying to find information to blackmail people.
00:15:17.000 And this person was, again, touted by people who are fairly highly respected on the conservative right.
00:15:25.000 The attention economy creates an incentive for retardation, and the retardation then affects your politics, which is why.
00:15:33.000 You have people like Alex Jones and Sneeko, who are somehow part of our political conversation.
00:15:39.000 Sneeko, who literally took an online IQ test and got a 95.
00:15:44.000 95 isn't good.
00:15:45.000 For those who have a 95 IQ, 95 is a bad score.
00:15:48.000 The average American IQ is 100.
00:15:51.000 Genius level stuff from Sneeko.
00:15:53.000 But don't worry, he and Alex Jones have conversations to the joy of millions.
00:15:59.000 There was Alex Jones versus Sneeko recently.
00:16:03.000 The slavery that we take the women as slaves of the day.
00:16:13.000 Inshallah.
00:16:14.000 And inshallah, you become Abdul Alex Jones.
00:16:34.000 So, folks, here is my plea.
00:16:37.000 It's a plea, okay?
00:16:38.000 Really, for the sake of your own brain cells, which are being wiped out at an extraordinary rate in the attention economy of today, do not follow these people.
00:16:47.000 Do not do this.
00:16:48.000 Do not do this to yourself.
00:16:49.000 This is your warning for today.
00:16:51.000 All these shows should come with a warning label that you're about to annihilate entire segments of your prefrontal cortex and make yourself actively dumber.
00:16:58.000 And in the process, by the way, make politics dumber because politicians follow incentives.
00:17:02.000 And if they see that people get a lot of clicks, they tend to follow those people.
00:17:05.000 This happens on the left.
00:17:06.000 It also happens on the right.
00:17:07.000 And spending a lot of time ripping on the left for their unwillingness to divide off from, say, Hassan Piker, which of course is shocking and astonishing and indicative of where they are politically.
00:17:17.000 But if the right does the same thing by embracing all of these figures, again, Milo was traveling in these circles, interned for Marjorie Taylor Greene, frequent guest on people like Tucker Carlson.
00:17:27.000 Tucker Carlson himself, a grifter extraordinaire, very close to the vice president of the United States.
00:17:31.000 People in positions of power on the right.
00:17:33.000 Who continue to pat on the head or hug many of the members of the grift industrial complex of the retardosphere.
00:17:40.000 This is a bad and stupid way to do politics.
00:17:44.000 And here's what you can do as an American you cannot give your attention in an attention economy to these sorts of folks because when you do, you're creating a political incentive for people to follow them.
00:17:55.000 And that would be a gigantic mistake.
00:17:57.000 Republicans need to avoid the trap here.
00:18:00.000 It is a trap.
00:18:01.000 All Americans really want, politically speaking, is normality.
00:18:05.000 Nothing we have seen for the past 20 odd minutes.
00:18:07.000 is normal.
00:18:09.000 If you follow this, you will not end up in a position of victory.
00:18:14.000 It's like letting Jerry Springer dictate the Republican Party platform.
00:18:17.000 Don't do it.
00:18:18.000 Now, again, the attention economy and the skewing of politics to meet it is, of course, not relegated to the right.
00:18:25.000 It's very much on the left as well.
00:18:27.000 And an attention economy, like any other economy, there's a competition.
00:18:31.000 There's a race for better quality and lower price.
00:18:34.000 Hunter Biden is attempting to race everybody to the bottom.
00:18:38.000 No double entendre implied, although kind of a little.
00:18:41.000 Uh, Hunter Biden yesterday announced that he was 48% gay.
00:18:47.000 Best tweet on this?
00:18:48.000 Somebody's tweeted, well, then he's bi then?
00:18:54.000 Hunter Biden wandering the wasteland that is our nation, explaining that he is into male appendages.
00:19:05.000 Are you gay?
00:19:06.000 Only a little bit.
00:19:08.000 More or less than 50%.
00:19:09.000 What?
00:19:10.000 More or less than 50%. 48.6%.
00:19:19.000 Hmm.
00:19:20.000 Hmm.
00:19:21.000 Well, dude has done a lot of crack.
00:19:25.000 So there's that.
00:19:25.000 But again, we're not going to spend our time with Hunter Biden, although he continues to wander the wasteland and landscape of American politics.
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