The Ben Shapiro Show - NASA Astronauts Return, Trump Brokers Putin CEASEFIRE?!

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00:00:37.000 So a very cool piece of news yesterday after nine months on the International Space Station.

00:00:44.000 286 days in space, according to the Washington Post.

00:00:46.000 The NASA astronauts Sunita Williams and Barry Butch Wilmore splashed down in their space exit dragon capsule off the coast of Florida just before 6 p.m. on Tuesday.

00:00:55.000 So originally, that flight on the Boeing Starliner was supposed to last eight days, and they ended up up there for 286 days.

00:01:04.000 Which has to suck, to be honest with you.

00:01:06.000 Imagine that you're going to space, you're going to tell your family that you're going to see them in a little over a week.

00:01:10.000 And almost a year later, you're still up there.

00:01:13.000 Now, depending on your family situation, maybe that's an unpaid vacation, but whatever it is, it's not great.

00:01:19.000 And the failures of the Biden administration to work with Elon to actually get those people down is pretty astonishing.

00:01:25.000 It really is because we are now...

00:01:27.000 couple months into the Trump administration, and Musk is sending SpaceX, the much maligned Elon Musk is sending SpaceX to, you know, rescue astronauts where they are stranded in space, which also probably is the beginning of an amazing rom-com that'll come out in a year or two.

00:01:42.000 The astronauts have said that they were actually prepared to stay longer, and they were eager to pitch in by conducting science experiments and maintenance aboard the orbiting laboratory.

00:01:48.000 I'm sure they were.

00:01:49.000 I mean, it probably gets pretty boring up there for a year.

00:01:52.000 I hope that they at least liked each other.

00:01:53.000 NASA officials said the decision about when and how to get them home was made based on safety and keeping the space station occupied, not politics.

00:02:00.000 They were joined on their return trip by the NASA astronaut Nick Hague and Russia's Alexander Gorbadov.

00:02:05.000 So that is a very cool thing.

00:02:08.000 Apparently, the reentry process is pretty rough because if you spend a lot of time in space, then that creates changes in your body.

00:02:16.000 So it's not going to be there's a tick or take parade tomorrow or anything.

00:02:19.000 So whenever I don't know something about a topic, the first place I go is to my friends over at Perplexity.

00:02:24.000 This search, by the way, is sponsored by Perplexity.

00:02:26.000 I wanted to know what actual physical effects would a year-long stint in space have on astronauts?

00:02:31.000 And here is what, my friend...

00:02:33.000 Perplexity told me.

00:02:34.000 A year-long stint in space would have significant physical effects on astronauts due to the microgravity environment and other factors associated with space travel.

00:02:41.000 Those effects include musculoskeletal changes like bone density loss.

00:02:44.000 You can lose 1 to 1.5% of bone mineral density per month in space.

00:02:48.000 Wow. That is like a lot, actually.

00:02:51.000 Basically like you get osteoporosis.

00:02:53.000 You have muscle atrophy because the muscles weaken and waste away because you're not using them all the time.

00:02:57.000 It could cause fluids to shift upward so you'll have a puffy face and some chicken legs.

00:03:02.000 You don't get amazingly great looking in space, actually.

00:03:06.000 Apparently you have significant arterial stiffness, like a 17 to 30% increase in arterial stiffness.

00:03:12.000 You can also have eye structure changes, vision problems.

00:03:16.000 You will get taller, so maybe I should try it.

00:03:18.000 You know, I've been ripped a lot about my height, so, oh, worthwhile, I don't know, I'll have to talk to my wife.

00:03:24.000 And space anemia, decreased production of red blood cells occurs in space.

00:03:28.000 So it requires extensive rehabilitation, in other words, just for these astronauts to sort of re-enter the Earth's gravitational pull and then be made healthy once more.

00:03:40.000 But good for Elon Musk, good for SpaceX, and it's good to have these astronauts home.

00:03:44.000 Meanwhile, the other big news of the day is that President Trump had his long-awaited two-hour phone call with Vladimir Putin of Russia.

00:03:51.000 And the account from President Trump and the account from Putin, they don't quite match up.

00:03:56.000 There's some good things that happened on this call.

00:03:58.000 We can be hopeful that this is the first step toward a longer-lasting ceasefire.

00:04:04.000 Let's just say that Putin is being extremely cagey about these negotiations, and the United States really needs to take that under advisement.

00:04:09.000 So President Trump put out the following statement after the two-hour phone call, quote, my phone conversation with President Putin of Russia was a very good and productive one.

00:04:16.000 We agreed to an immediate ceasefire on all energy and infrastructure with an understanding.

00:04:20.000 They'll be working quickly to have a complete ceasefire and ultimately an end to this very horrible war between Russia and Ukraine.

00:04:25.000 This war would never have started if I were president.

00:04:27.000 Many elements of a contract for peace were discussed, including the fact that thousands of soldiers are being killed, and both President Putin and President Zelensky would like to see it end.

00:04:34.000 That process is now in full force and effect, and we will hopefully, for the sake of humanity, get the job done.

00:04:39.000 Now, you will notice, first of all, that this is not a full ceasefire agreement by the Russians.

00:04:44.000 So the Ukrainians have already said, President Zelensky has already said that they are willing to engage in a full 30-day complete ceasefire.

00:04:51.000 Not on energy, not an infrastructure, completely.

00:04:53.000 Remember, energy and infrastructure.

00:04:55.000 That's the sort of stuff that is generally civilian-oriented in places like Ukraine.

00:05:02.000 However, what Putin does not want to do, apparently, is stop attacking the actual military of Ukraine, and he refuses to do so.

00:05:08.000 Ukraine is saying, listen, we'll go weapons down right now.

00:05:10.000 Like, we'll stop this moment.

00:05:12.000 And Putin is saying, no, I don't think so.

00:05:14.000 We're just going to keep pushing that shows that he believes that he has the military momentum.

00:05:18.000 He wants to keep killing as many Ukrainian soldiers as humanly possible.

00:05:21.000 Meanwhile, there is a story that emerged originally from Russian sources and now has been picked up by the U.S. Sun.

00:05:29.000 that President Putin kept Trump waiting for today's phone call and did not leave until one hour after the chat was actually set to begin.

00:05:35.000 And apparently he even laughed off a warning that he was getting late for his phone call with the American president.

00:05:40.000 The host of the event, a guy named Alexander Shokin, was actually looking at his wash, like openly on tape.

00:05:47.000 And Putin laughed it off.

00:05:49.000 So that is, in fact, a sign of disrespect to the United States and should be taken as such.

00:05:52.000 If Zelensky was disrespectful in the Oval Office, which he was, then Vladimir Putin, being an hour late to talk to the most powerful person on planet Earth is also a sign of disrespect.

00:06:02.000 Putin has made this one of his tactics, as sort of his negotiating tactic, is to keep world leaders waiting.

00:06:07.000 The conference took place right before the high-stakes call was scheduled with Trump between 4 and 6 p.m. Russian time.

00:06:13.000 As the clock ticked past 4, Putin's pal on the host of the event, Shokin, looked at his watch, saying the call was scheduled for before 6 p.m. And Putin said, don't listen to him.

00:06:21.000 That's his job.

00:06:23.000 To which Shokin implied, now we need to see what Trump says about this.

00:06:26.000 And then Putin said that he was referring to the Kremlin spokesman, Dmitri Peskov.

00:06:31.000 Eventually, he arrived at about 5 p.m. According to a variety of different reports, the Russian takeaway from the call was not the same as the American takeaway from the call.

00:06:43.000 According to the White House readout, quote, the leaders agreed the movement to peace will begin with an energy and infrastructure ceasefire, as well as technical negotiations on implementation of a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea, full ceasefire, and permanent peace.

00:06:56.000 So there will be no full ceasefire until technical negotiations, which means that Putin can keep pushing.

00:07:02.000 The negotiations will begin immediately in the Middle East, presumably Saudi Arabia.

00:07:05.000 The two leaders agreed that a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has huge upside.

00:07:10.000 This includes enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has actually been achieved.

00:07:17.000 Now, again, I think that the takeaway from...

00:07:22.000 the Russian side is not quite the same as the takeaway from the American side.

00:07:26.000 And the reason that you can tell this is because while President Trump mentioned Russian commitment to an energy and infrastructure ceasefire, Moscow did not quite say the same thing.

00:07:36.000 Instead, Moscow apparently was taking the opinion that the ceasefire would begin with energy and transportation and infrastructure when it began.

00:07:47.000 Because minutes after the announcement of all of this, There was, in fact, a Russian-guided bomb that took out the power in the Ukrainian city of Sloviansk.

00:07:57.000 Fox News has added that Kiev is already under drone attack.

00:08:00.000 It's unclear if Russia violated the energy infrastructure ceasefire.

00:08:04.000 Or the energy and infrastructure ceasefire, because maybe they're just attacking infrastructure as opposed to energy infrastructure.

00:08:12.000 Whatever the case, it is clear that at this point, the Ukrainians are far more willing to come to the table than Vladimir Putin is.

00:08:20.000 And the distinction between what the U.S. said and what the Russians said is that the U.S. said that the Russians had committed to an energy and infrastructure ceasefire.

00:08:27.000 But the Kremlin talked of only energy infrastructure.

00:08:31.000 In other words, they won't attack power stations, but they'll still attack roads.

00:08:34.000 They will still attack freeways.

00:08:36.000 They will still attack trains and all the rest of it.

00:08:41.000 So, Russia seems to be playing around.

00:08:42.000 The one thing that they said they would not do was, again, agree to a full ceasefire because they feel like they have momentum at this point.

00:08:52.000 Apparently, Trump was, in fact, able to secure one element of the ceasefire proposal.

00:08:56.000 The Kremlin announced that Russia and Ukraine would release 175 of each other's prisoners of war.

00:09:00.000 And apparently Moscow would also free 23 seriously wounded Ukrainian servicemen received treatment in their home country.

00:09:09.000 The Kremlin specified, again, that energy infrastructure would not be attacked, but then apparently they hit infrastructure within an hour, basically.

00:09:18.000 The Ukrainian member of parliament, Inosovson, posted attacks.

00:09:21.000 Putin backed Trump's 30-day pause on energy strikes and then broke his word in less than an hour.

00:09:27.000 So, the president in the United States should hold Russia to its word.

00:09:31.000 If they want to get to stage two of a ceasefire, then they need to stop attacking energy infrastructure.

00:09:36.000 And we need to know what their conditions are for actually getting to a stage two, whatever the next step is.

00:09:43.000 Because the conditions so far that Putin has actually articulated for a full-scale ceasefire or an armist disagreement are totally unpalatable.

00:09:50.000 That's just the reality.

00:09:53.000 Vladimir Putin, for example, is demanding that literally all Western arms supplies to Ukraine be halted for him to conclude a ceasefire agreement.

00:10:00.000 That is not going to happen.

00:10:02.000 That would be nuts.

00:10:03.000 For Ukraine to simply agree that they will receive no more weaponry from the outside in exchange for what a promise that maybe Russia will come to the table into a ceasefire would be totally insane.

00:10:14.000 According to Bloomberg, Russia wants to stop all arms supplies to Ukraine.

00:10:18.000 Its minimum goal is to cut off American aid.

00:10:20.000 So Putin is hoping that these sort of baby steps are going to lead the United States to cut off the Ukrainian aid again.

00:10:27.000 Again, that would be a mistake.

00:10:28.000 The United States needs to ratchet up the pressure to get Putin to the table because he clearly is not taking this seriously enough.

00:10:36.000 Unnamed European officials say it's unlikely Europe would agree to Russia's demand that allies block arms supplies to Ukraine during any truce.

00:10:43.000 Because obviously, Ukraine would then be left naked, and Russia would just rearm with help from the Chinese. 0.96

00:10:48.000 So that is the current status.

00:10:51.000 Obviously, Vladimir Putin believes that he has the upper hand in negotiations.

00:10:54.000 It is up to the allies to demonstrate to Vladimir Putin that he does not, in fact, have the upper hand in the negotiations, and he needs to start making concessions.

00:11:02.000 The Ukrainians are willing to come to the table.

00:11:03.000 That's made very clear.

00:11:04.000 Now it's time for Vladimir Putin to do the same, if in fact...

00:11:07.000 He is telling President Trump the truth and would like to see an end to this war.

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00:13:23.000 Meanwhile, the president of the United States is running into some headwinds with regard to the judiciary.

00:13:28.000 An enormous amount of what's happening with the judiciary will in fact be solved by the Supreme Court.

00:13:32.000 It will be taken up eventually.

00:13:34.000 Chief Justice Roberts felt the necessity sort of rapid President Trump on the knuckles on Tuesday.

00:13:41.000 The reason being President Trump demanded the impeachment of a federal judge who's been hearing a challenge to the removal of Trenda Aragua gang members under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798.

00:13:53.000 Now, I'm not sure why it's necessary for Chief Justice Roberts to sign into chat here and talk about this.

00:13:57.000 President Trump says a lot of things.

00:13:59.000 But he did put out a statement, quote, for more than two centuries.

00:14:01.000 It has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision.

00:14:06.000 The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose.

00:14:08.000 Well, it was never going to happen.

00:14:10.000 So I'm not sure precisely what the point of that is.

00:14:13.000 Why is Roberts doing that?

00:14:15.000 Obviously, I don't think that President Trump should be calling for the impeachment of judges based on decisions not going his way.

00:14:19.000 That's why the appellate procedure exists. 0.82

00:14:22.000 With that said, why is Roberts signing in here?

00:14:26.000 Presumably to earn some sort of public credibility with a left that has already learned to despise, Chief Justice, John Roberts.

00:14:36.000 Tuesday's statement was not the first time that Roberts had scolded politicians for disparaging the judiciary.

00:14:40.000 Roberts did this back in 2018, after Trump attacked an Obama judge for ruling against him in an immigration case.

00:14:46.000 And Roberts said then, we do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges, or Clinton judges, while he has an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal rights to those appearing before them.

00:14:56.000 which, of course, is very silly.

00:14:57.000 Of course, you have Obama judges and Bush judges and Trump judges and Clinton judges.

00:15:01.000 It's a fairly decent litmus test for precisely how they are going to view the Constitution of the United States.

00:15:06.000 Trump was right at the time.

00:15:07.000 He said, quote, sorry, Chief Justice Roberts.

00:15:09.000 You do indeed have Obama judges.

00:15:10.000 They have a much different point of view than the people who are charged with the safety of our country.

00:15:15.000 So, again, Roberts is an institutionalist.

00:15:17.000 He believes that somehow he's shoring up the credibility of the institution by sort of wrapping Trump over the knuckles on this sort of stuff.

00:15:23.000 Instead, all he's doing is annoying everybody on the right who understands that Trump says a lot of things and know that he is not going to attempt to impeach these judges.

00:15:31.000 Meanwhile, the DOJ continues to be at war with this particular judge, Judge Bosberg, who is in fact an Obama appointee.

00:15:41.000 The Trump administration on Tuesday defended its deportation of those Trenderagua members, saying that two of the three flights that supposedly had been held up by the judge had already left before the judge ordered them not to.

00:15:54.000 U.S. District, Judge James Bosberg, initially ordered those flights to return to the United States.

00:15:58.000 The administration argued that the planes were already in international waters and the ruling no longer applied.

00:16:05.000 Robert Serna, an acting field office director, according to Axios within ICE, said in a court filing, two of those three planes carrying migrants had departed for El Salvador before 7.25 p.m. Eastern time, when the judge issued the order.

00:16:17.000 A third plane departed after that, but its passengers were not removed solely based on Trump's executive order, Cerna said.

00:16:24.000 A separate filing says the government maintains there is no justification to order the provision of additional information and that doing so would be inappropriate because even accepting plaintiff's accounts of the facts, there's no violation of the court's written order.

00:16:35.000 So as of Tuesday, there are still 54 alleged Trenta Aragua gang members in detention.

00:16:40.000 About 172 are on the non-detained docket.

00:16:44.000 So that is going to be battled out in the courts.

00:16:47.000 Meanwhile, another district court judge has now decided to basically enjoin the enforcement of the Trump cuts to USAID.

00:16:57.000 And this judge, Judge Theodore Twang, has now ordered Elon Musk and the Department of Government Efficiency to immediately give USAID employees access to their email payment, security notification, and all other electronic systems.

00:17:10.000 The basic notion here, apparently, is that they have a right to their jobs.

00:17:16.000 Now, presumably, that right springs from the USAID enabling legislation.

00:17:24.000 But USAID was originally set up by executive order, as in by the president.

00:17:28.000 So in his ruling, he goes out of his way to suggest that then it was sort of recodified in the late 1990s by Congress, and that now USAID is almost untouchable by the president of the United States.

00:17:38.000 Only Congress could change USAID.

00:17:40.000 I think there's a very flawed interpretation of the history of USAID.

00:17:46.000 It seems like not a particularly strong argument.

00:17:48.000 This is another Obama judge who is, again, trying to intervene here.

00:17:52.000 He also claims that Musk does not have the ability to fire people, but of course it's not Musk technically doing the firing.

00:17:58.000 He's making recommendations via Doge to actual government actors who are approved by Congress who are actually doing the firing.

00:18:05.000 That's particularly true in USAID.

00:18:07.000 It's the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, who's presiding over the dismantling of USAID, which, by the way, under the original executive order that established UISID, it was placed under the auspices of the State Department.

00:18:20.000 Judge Chuong, again, tried to bash Musk saying that he, quote, usurped the authority of the public's elected representatives in Congress to make decisions on whether, when, or how to eliminate a federal government agency and of officers of the United States duly appointed under the Constitution to exercise the authority entrusted to them.

00:18:36.000 And this is a very flawed reading of the balance of powers.

00:18:39.000 Basically, the case seems to be that if Congress sets up an executive branch agency and then...

00:18:46.000 create sort of general rules and allocations to that agency, that is now untouchable by the executive branch.

00:18:52.000 And even the people inside the executive branch can't be fired by members of the executive branch, in which case you have now set up in unanswerable fourth branch of government.

00:19:00.000 That branch of government firings and hirings can't be done by Congress.

00:19:04.000 Cuts can be done by Congress.

00:19:06.000 And meanwhile, the president apparently can't either cut or fire.

00:19:10.000 This, of course, is to maintain the size and scope of the federal government.

00:19:13.000 The entire Trump administration is oriented against it, of course.

00:19:18.000 Meanwhile, President Trump is challenging the legal order by firing two Democratic commissioners at the U.S. Federal Trade Commission on Tuesday.

00:19:27.000 A White House official confirmed that Democratic commissioners Alvado Bidoya and Rebecca Kelly Slaughter had been fired.

00:19:34.000 The firings drew criticism from Democratic senators.

00:19:38.000 The FTC has a bipartisan structure.

00:19:40.000 No more than three of the five commissioners can come from the same party.

00:19:44.000 Both of these fired FTC members plan to sue to reverse the filings.

00:19:49.000 The Supreme Court did rule in 1935, upholding a law allowing FTC commissioners to be fired only for good cause like neglecting their duties.

00:19:57.000 So presumably, there will be some sort of case made by the Trump administration that these particular FCC commissioners did in fact neglect their duties, and then he will find some titular Democrats to fill the seats.

00:20:09.000 FTC Chairman Andrew Ferguson and Republican Commissioner Melissa Holyoke have said that they support the administration's legal position that the White House actually has the power to fire those agency officials.

00:20:21.000 They say that, legally speaking...

00:20:23.000 The White House does, in fact, control government agencies.

00:20:26.000 And so it'll be interesting to see whether the Supreme Court takes that up and then overturns that 1935 decision, pointing out that the unitary executive is in fact a feature of the American government.

00:20:37.000 Meanwhile, to economic news.

00:20:40.000 So the greatest threat to the presidency is not, in fact, the judiciary.

00:20:43.000 The Supreme Court, as I say, is going to hash out a lot of these questions, and I have faith that the Trump administration is not simply going to ignore the Supreme Court.

00:20:49.000 It's one thing to say a district court judge does not have the power to enjoin action at the USAID.

00:20:55.000 or that a district court judge can't magically turn airplanes around that are in international waters.

00:20:59.000 It is another thing to ignore the Supreme Court of the United States wholesale.

00:21:02.000 I do not think there is intent inside the Trump administration to do just that.

00:21:06.000 The real threat to the Trump administration is not that.

00:21:08.000 The real threat to the Trump administration in the end is the economy.

00:21:12.000 If the economy should go south, the Trump administration will go south with it.

00:21:15.000 This is true for literally every president.

00:21:16.000 It is not unique to President Trump.

00:21:18.000 The stock market has been bouncing around a lot lately.

00:21:21.000 On Monday, the stock market jumped significantly.

00:21:24.000 On Tuesday, the stock market dumped significantly.

00:21:27.000 The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped about 260 points.

00:21:30.000 Right now, investors are not quite sure what to do.

00:21:32.000 And apparently neither is the Federal Reserve.

00:21:34.000 There's been a lot of talk about the Federal Reserve lowering those interest rates.

00:21:38.000 The problem is that the inflationary curve has not yet stopped.

00:21:41.000 Stock prices still seem to be too high.

00:21:44.000 The PE ratio at the Dow Jones Industrial Average remains significantly above historical averages.

00:21:51.000 It remains at about 25. Normally, you want the PE ratios, the price to earnings ratio, to be down in the 16 to 18 range.

00:22:04.000 Now it's unclear what the Federal Reserve is going to do.

00:22:06.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, not long ago, it looked like Jerome Powell's final test as Federal Reserve Chair would be a stick to soft landing.

00:22:12.000 Now, with about a year left in his term, he faces a serious complication, navigating a trade war that threatens to push prices up while simultaneously weakening the economy.

00:22:21.000 During a seven-year tenure that included President Trump's first trade war, pandemic, historic inflation, and high-profile bank failures, says the Wall Street Journal, Powell's final act also unfolds with an imperative to preserve the institution's apolitical DNA that protects its autonomy in setting interest rates.

00:22:35.000 So, President Trump is pushing him to lower those interest rates, but again, inflation continues to hover in the 2.8 to 3 percent range.

00:22:46.000 Everybody is sort of holding their breath to see what the Fed does.

00:22:48.000 I think it's very unlikely that the Federal Reserve is going to drop the interest rates.

00:22:53.000 And if inflation were to accelerate, then officials would have to think about the idea of actually increasing those interest rates again.

00:23:01.000 A lot of the sanguinity about the economy, sort of satisfaction with the economy, would return if there weren't such high levels of dyspepsia over President Trump's tariff plans.

00:23:11.000 Because nobody actually knows what's going to happen on April 2nd.

00:23:13.000 President Trump has said that April 2nd, everything is going to change.

00:23:16.000 His Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik has said the same, that a giant set of reciprocal tariffs are going to be put in place.

00:23:21.000 Now some of the details are sort of being spelled out.

00:23:23.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, Trump administration officials are roiled in debate over how to implement the president's pledge to equalize U.S. tariffs with those charged by other nations.

00:23:33.000 officials have recently weighed whether to simplify the complex task of devising new tariff rates for hundreds of U.S. trading partners by instead sorting nations into one of three tariff tiers.

00:23:42.000 That proposal apparently was later ruled out, adding that the Trump team is still trying to figure out how to implement an individualized rate for every separate nation.

00:23:50.000 And Trump has repeatedly said that reciprocal tariffs would mean what they charge us, we charge them.

00:23:55.000 But the problem is that it's not just like the country has one giant tariff rate on the United States.

00:23:59.000 There are different tariff rates on different goods from every single country.

00:24:03.000 So it's not as easy as, oh, Canada just charges a blank at 5% rate, we'll charge them a 5% rate.

00:24:09.000 Let's say that they tariff, for example, American lumber, which they do.

00:24:13.000 Well, how do we respond in kind?

00:24:14.000 If we tariff their lumber, that makes no difference to them since, again, they are importing our lumber, and we're not importing their lumber, presumably.

00:24:21.000 You have to find some sort of equivalent in the market and then tariff that.

00:24:26.000 It's a very, very complicated procedure.

00:24:30.000 Treasury Secretary Scott Besson said on Fox Business on April 2nd, each country will receive a number that we believe represents their tariffs.

00:24:36.000 So for some countries, it will be quite low.

00:24:38.000 For some countries, it will be quite high.

00:24:41.000 And again, there's been talk about these sort of three-tier tariff proposal, which is really a blunt instrument.

00:24:48.000 I mean, like there's a big difference between many of the countries that would end up in the same tier.

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00:27:02.000 Meanwhile, apparently, Vice President J.D. Vance is taking on a larger role in Trump's trade agenda.

00:27:06.000 He's been helming policy discussions, according to people familiar with the matter.

00:27:09.000 There were several lengthy meetings in recent weeks among top Trump aides, including an hours-long meeting at the Naval Observatory, which is, of course, where the vice president lives.

00:27:16.000 The meetings have centered on how to create a comprehensive tariff policy that achieves Trump's goals, but also has some more flexibility.

00:27:24.000 The reciprocal tariff plan is expected to be introduced April 2nd along with additional 25% duties on a handful of industries like autos, semiconductors, and pharmaceuticals.

00:27:34.000 And again, one of the big questions here is what does the U.S. Trade Representative's office do?

00:27:38.000 They have like 200 people.

00:27:39.000 How do they handle all of this?

00:27:41.000 All of this is a very complicating factor.

00:27:43.000 The markets aren't quite sure whether this is going to be a rough Trump proposal where the edges get sanded down or whether it's going to be a blunderbuss that hits everybody.

00:27:51.000 Vice President Vance...

00:27:53.000 did an event yesterday in which he spoke about tariff policy and economic policy more generally.

00:27:58.000 The vice president has sort of a foot in both camps.

00:28:01.000 He obviously is a representative of the sort of MAGA protectionist position on some economic proposals.

00:28:07.000 At the same exact time, Vice President Vance has a long history of warmth toward Silicon Valley.

00:28:13.000 And tech pros do, in fact, rely on a wide variety of free trade and technological advancement.

00:28:18.000 So he's trying to square a circle that I'm not sure it can be totally squared right here.

00:28:23.000 Again, the vice president's a super smart guy, and this attempt is probably as good as an attempt can be.

00:28:28.000 However, you're talking in some cases about mutually exclusive policies.

00:28:31.000 If you're talking about radical increase in tariffs, at the same time as you talk about the technological advancements to be made by the United States amid economic advancement, that is a tough road to hoe. 0.93

00:28:43.000 So here is Vice President Vance standing up for tariffs as a quote-unquote necessary tool.

00:28:48.000 President Trump is starting with and is dead serious about rearranging our trade and tariff regime internationally.

00:28:56.000 We believe that tariffs are a necessary tool to protect our jobs and our industries from other countries, as well as the labor value of our workers in a globalized market.

00:29:08.000 In fact, combined with the right technology, they allow us to bring jobs back to the United States of America and create the jobs of the future.

00:29:16.000 Okay, well, I mean, let's be real about this.

00:29:18.000 When he says, combined with the right policy, you end up with the jobs of the future and we bring everything back, okay, here's what a tariff does.

00:29:26.000 A tariff protects the industry that it is designed to protect and it taxes everybody else.

00:29:30.000 That's what a tariff does.

00:29:31.000 It raises prices for all of the other people who are using inputs.

00:29:35.000 that are covered by this area.

00:29:36.000 It subsidizes some businesses at the expense of others.

00:29:39.000 Now, if there are national security-oriented businesses and we got to protect them because, God forbid, there's a war, you need to have all of that living in American shores.

00:29:46.000 Totally agree.

00:29:47.000 I've said this a thousand times.

00:29:48.000 If the goal of a tariff war is to get everybody else to lower their tariffs so that you end up with a freer trade regime than when he started, that's great too.

00:29:56.000 And again, I'm not sure exactly where the president stands on all this because he obviously is dedicated to...

00:30:02.000 a large portion of the sort of free trade agenda when it comes to, for example, freedom of the seas.

00:30:06.000 This would be one of the reasons why we are currently bombing the Houthis in Yemen, who've been holding up free trade via the Red Sea and the Suez Canal.

00:30:13.000 However, when you say that tariffs, combined with the right technology, create the jobs of the future?

00:30:20.000 I do not see how that is in any way, shape, or form correct.

00:30:25.000 He says, when you erect a tariff wall around a critical industry like auto manufacturing, and you combine that with advanced robotics and lower energy costs and other tools that increase the productivity of you as labor, you give American workers a multiplying effect.

00:30:36.000 Well, or you could not erect a tariff wall and you could combine the non-teraf wall with advanced robotics and lower energy costs and lower taxes and better tools to draw America, draw businesses to America.

00:30:49.000 You could do that without taxing the American consumer, actually.

00:30:53.000 I mean, one of the great sort of fibs that's been told about free trade is that free trade is the largest reason for the decline in manufacturing jobs in the United States.

00:31:04.000 That is not real.

00:31:05.000 It is not true.

00:31:06.000 In fact, the reality is that increases in productivity via technology have been the largest contributor to job loss in the manufacturing industries in the United States.

00:31:17.000 So when Vice President Vance yesterday suggested that globalization and it's hunger for cheap labor, that's somehow preventing innovation.

00:31:24.000 Well, I mean, to be fair, globalization is also the process whereby people trade good services and information so as to create significantly more sophisticated product, which is why the stuff that you have now is way, way, way better in quality and price than the stuff you had in, say, 1990.

00:31:40.000 I'd ask my friends, both on the tech optimist side and on the populist side, not to see the failure of the logic of globalization as a failure of innovation.

00:31:51.000 Indeed, I'd say that globalization's hunger for cheap labor is a problem precisely because it's been bad for innovation.

00:31:59.000 Both our working people, our populists, and our innovators gathered here today have the same enemy.

00:32:06.000 And the solution, I believe, is American innovation.

00:32:10.000 Because in the long run, it's technology that increases the value of labor.

00:32:15.000 Innovations like the American system and the interchangeable parts revolution, it sparked, or Ford's moving assembly line that skyrocketed the productivity of our workers.

00:32:24.000 That's how American industry became the envy of the world.

00:32:28.000 Okay, but the American car industry became the envy of the world before, before the imposition of, for example, the Smoot-Hawley tariffs.

00:32:35.000 In fact, large-scale tariffs, protectionism and subsidization of the American auto industry in the 1950s and 1960s meant that Toyota ended up out competing the hell out of the American auto industries by the 1970s.

00:32:48.000 I understand what he's trying to do.

00:32:50.000 He's trying to square a couple of different policies.

00:32:52.000 One is a very robust tariff regime that President Trump seems entranced with, and the other is technological innovation.

00:32:59.000 But if that were true, that tariff policy made for better innovation at home by artificially boosting the price of labor?

00:33:06.000 and thus driving innovation to actually, what, make labor more productive and then lead to the ability to fire some of the laborers?

00:33:15.000 That is a bit of a different argument, and I'm not sure it's an argument that really holds a lot of water, economically speaking.

00:33:20.000 If that were the case, then we should put our tariffs at 100% everywhere, and boy, howdy, would we be innovating like nobody's business.

00:33:27.000 Innovation is not merely a process of create pressure and wait for innovation.

00:33:31.000 Innovation is a process of the free flow of information, the free flow of goods and services.

00:33:36.000 That is how innovation happens.

00:33:38.000 Innovation isn't some guy in a shower thinking up the flux capacitor.

00:33:42.000 That's not how it works.

00:33:44.000 And if the Trump administration continues down the sort of subsidization and tariff line as opposed to the deregulatory and tax cut line, then I think that they are in for some hurt on the economic front.

00:33:57.000 That's not really a theory.

00:33:58.000 That has proved out pretty strongly by past market indicators.

00:34:03.000 And again, this is coming from a place of I want President Trump to succeed wildly on the economy because if he does not, then the agenda that I hold dear and that he holds here are going to be an awful lot of trouble.

00:34:12.000 Meanwhile, the presidents of the United States had for a long time promised that there would be additional documents coming in the JFK assassination.

00:34:20.000 I know it happened in 1963.

00:34:22.000 Here's the president a couple of days ago announcing that the documents were coming.

00:34:27.000 We are tomorrow announcing and giving all of the Kennedy files.

00:34:37.000 So people have been waiting for decades for this.

00:34:41.000 And I've instructed my people that are responsible.

00:34:46.000 Lots of different people put together by Tulsi Gabbard.

00:34:52.000 And that's going to be released tomorrow.

00:34:56.000 We have a tremendous amount of paper.

00:35:01.000 You've got a lot of reading.

00:35:02.000 I don't believe we're going to redact anything.

00:35:04.000 I said, just don't redact.

00:35:05.000 You can't redact.

00:35:07.000 But we're going to be releasing the JFK files.

00:35:12.000 So, 80,000 or so pages of the JFK files were in fact released.

00:35:18.000 It was all put together in something like 1,123 PDF documents.

00:35:25.000 So people are combing through these in search of the detail, the smoking gun that chose that it was the Cubans or the Russians or the CIA or the Israelis or something.

00:35:35.000 I'm just going to break it to you right now.

00:35:36.000 It was Lee Harvey Oswald.

00:35:38.000 Spoiler alert, it was Lee Harvey Oswald.

00:35:39.000 It was always Lee Harvey Oswald.

00:35:41.000 The most credible theory about Lee Harvey Oswald is that he was some sort of Soviet agent, considering that he literally went to the Soviet Union, and then he came back from the Soviet Union, and he was at the Cuban embassy.

00:35:51.000 Other than that, you know, not much is my expectation.

00:35:55.000 There are going to be some pages here of people who showed up to law enforcement and then made statements about things that they thought had happened, people that they knew, which does not constitute any real sort of evidence.

00:36:09.000 There's tons of documentation on this.

00:36:11.000 Again, 99% of all JFK files had already been released.

00:36:15.000 You're talking about literally millions of pages of documents that had been released before.

00:36:20.000 These documents are not categorized or presented in any real organized way.

00:36:24.000 It's possible some of them are not really new.

00:36:28.000 David Garrow, who's a historian who's written a lot about intelligence agencies, he said, this dump is profoundly more impenetrable than all the previous more annotated ones.

00:36:35.000 Tim Naftali's a historian.

00:36:37.000 He said he hadn't had much luck so far.

00:36:38.000 He told the New York Times, I'm trying to find stuff that's been re-reviewed and re-released with new information because some of it's unredacted.

00:36:46.000 Some documents have, some have not.

00:36:50.000 Historians said that they really didn't expect anything earth-shattering.

00:36:54.000 So, you know, it'll take some time to go through it.

00:36:57.000 Every legit historian who has gone through the JFK files has come to the same conclusion, which as Lee Harvey Oswald did it.

00:37:05.000 That is what the physics demonstrates.

00:37:07.000 That is what the wounds show.

00:37:09.000 That is what the tape shows.

00:37:11.000 All of the conspiracy theorizing around JFK while entertaining.

00:37:16.000 is, in my opinion, specious and not just specious, in some case, maliciously oriented.

00:37:22.000 If you want to see a fuller breakdown of that, we have a series behind the paywall over at Daily Wire Plus called Debunked, in which I did a full episode about the JFK assassination going through some of the most common accusations about the JFK assassination.

00:37:36.000 In any case, I'm for more transparency, so I'm very happy that Trump did this.

00:37:40.000 I think he should do exactly the same thing on the RFK assassination.

00:37:43.000 I think you should do exactly the same thing on the MLK assassination.

00:37:46.000 I let all of it come to light.

00:37:47.000 I think the more that the public sees, the better.

00:37:50.000 Now, is it going to shut up the conspiracy theorists?

00:37:52.000 Of course not.

00:37:53.000 Because then the answer will be, well, of course the government didn't take account of any of these files.

00:37:56.000 It was the government that did it.

00:37:58.000 Or there's probably a secret box of documents somewhere.

00:38:01.000 A sort of conspiracy theorizing that's become incredibly popular on the right these days.

00:38:05.000 It was popular on the left, and now it's become increasingly popular on the right.

00:38:10.000 Let's just ask questions.

00:38:12.000 Who really killed JFK?

00:38:13.000 Wink, wink, wink, nod.

00:38:15.000 And then you're like, well, do you have any evidence of the thing that you are presupposed?

00:38:18.000 Well, no, I'm not making any accusations.

00:38:20.000 I just know I don't believe the story that I'm being told.

00:38:23.000 I know not to trust the authorities.

00:38:25.000 Well, that's fine, but do you have like any evidence?

00:38:28.000 Like evidence, not just supposition.

00:38:29.000 I said, well, you're part of it, aren't you?

00:38:31.000 You? Yes, you.

00:38:33.000 You're part of it.

00:38:34.000 The reason that you're so defensive about all this is, I don't care to kill JFK.

00:38:37.000 I mean, I do, because it's really interesting.

00:38:41.000 But I noticed that the calendar says 2025 and he was killed in 1963.

00:38:45.000 And so my opinion about who killed JFK has about as much relevance as who killed William McKinley, which is, or James Garfield, which is to say not an enormous amount.

00:38:57.000 It's not going to change the world in any real way, barring the revelation that many of those same people are still in the government today.

00:39:04.000 But I don't expect that any of that is going to be in there.

00:39:06.000 I would be, shall we say, rather shocked if that were the case.

00:39:09.000 But it's not going to put conspiracies to bed because conspiracies have a life of their own.

00:39:14.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats continue to just flail around.

00:39:19.000 They have no idea what to do with President Trump.

00:39:21.000 It is amazing to watch them flail.

00:39:23.000 It truly is.

00:39:24.000 Chuck Schumer, this is an amazing term of offense.

00:39:26.000 Chuck Schumer, the Senate Minority Leader, who is quite awful, he wrote a book about anti-Semitism.

00:39:33.000 Okay, as a Jew.

00:39:34.000 I don't do it as a Jew all that much, actually.

00:39:37.000 But as a Jew, no.

00:39:39.000 The answer is no, Chuck Schumer.

00:39:42.000 You do not get to speak as a Jew about how you're fighting anti-Semitism while you greenlit the Iran nuclear deal made room for every anti-Israel anti-Semitic person in your party.

00:39:55.000 Refuse to condemn the worst excesses of your own party.

00:40:00.000 The answer is no.

00:40:02.000 Absolutely not.

00:40:04.000 Hey, so he actually had to cancel his book tour.

00:40:06.000 Hilariously enough, he did not cancel his book tour because he really shouldn't be speaking about anti-Semitism.

00:40:13.000 ridiculously, the reason he had to cancel his book tour is because so many Democrats are ticked off at him over greenlighting the continuing resolution, which shows you where the violence is on the American spectrum these days when even the Senate minority leader can't face his own constituents in New York, afraid that they'll yell at him.

00:40:29.000 According to Politico, he's postponing that book tour for security reasons as he faces intense backlash from the party base in the wake of last week's government funding vote.

00:40:37.000 Again, that's pretty incredible.

00:40:39.000 Right-wingers who are canceling events these days, Republican Congress people, they are doing so because of the violent left.

00:40:44.000 And when Chuck Schumer cancels an event, it's because of, wait for it, the violent left.

00:40:47.000 I wonder who's violent.

00:40:49.000 I was told only the right was violent.

00:40:50.000 The right has a violence problem.

00:40:52.000 Schumer was expected to make several stops in coming days to promote his new book, anti-Semitism in America, how I did it.

00:40:57.000 No, sorry, it's called Antisemitism in America, a warning.

00:41:02.000 Due to security concerns, Senator Schumer's book events are now being rescheduled, according to a spokesperson for Schumer.

00:41:09.000 That didn't stop Schumer from appearing on the view.

00:41:11.000 Now, again, I have to admit, I am jealous of Chuck Schumer for appearing on the view.

00:41:14.000 It has been a lifelong, I don't have.

00:41:16.000 I have a wonderful life.

00:41:17.000 I've gotten so many things I want out of life, and I hope to get many more, and it's a great life.

00:41:23.000 One of my unfulfilled aspirations as a human is to be on the view.

00:41:27.000 I just, it would make some of the best TV ever.

00:41:30.000 It would just be wonderful TV.

00:41:32.000 I mean...

00:41:33.000 kind of intellectually clubbing a baby seal, but amazing TV.

00:41:38.000 Chuck Schumer was invited, not because he's a woman.

00:41:41.000 I mean, I don't know the answer to that.

00:41:43.000 Only he can identify, but he was invited to talk about all of this, where he then explained why he had not signed on to the, why he had not signed on to the filibuster of the continuing resolution.

00:41:55.000 There's no exit strategy.

00:41:57.000 How do you get out of a shutdown?

00:41:58.000 Guess who determines it?

00:42:00.000 Trump, Musk, Doge.

00:42:04.000 They're the only ones.

00:42:05.000 And one of the Republican senators told one of the Democratic senators, you get in this.

00:42:10.000 We're staying in for six months, nine months a year till we decimate the entire federal government.

00:42:17.000 Okay, so that's actually not a horrible explanation of why he voted in favor of the continuing resolution.

00:42:23.000 If the government had shut down, Trump would have the ability to decide who the essential workers were and then fire a bunch of people.

00:42:28.000 So that's actually a pretty good explanation.

00:42:31.000 However, Sonny Hosten was having none of it.

00:42:33.000 She ripped into Schumer. 0.99

00:42:34.000 She's really mad because if Trump says black, you have to say white.

00:42:37.000 If Trump says day, you say night.

00:42:39.000 That's how it works.

00:42:42.000 Governor Pritzker's Chief of Staff, Anna Ann Caprera, has said the following.

00:42:47.000 The fight going on in the Democratic Party right now is not between hard left, right, and moderate.

00:42:52.000 It's between those who want to fight and those who want to cave.

00:42:55.000 And it gives me no pleasure to say this to you because we are friends, but I think you caved.

00:42:59.000 I think you and nine other Democrats I don't think you showed the fight that this party needs right now because you're playing by a rule book where the other party has thrown that rule book away.

00:43:10.000 True. And so in my view, what you did really was in supporting that GOP partisan bill that Democrats had no input in, we cleared the way for Donald Trump and Elon Musk to gut Social Security, to gut Medicare, to gut Medicaid.

00:43:25.000 Why did you lead Democratic senators to play by that book that the Republicans are not playing by?

00:43:32.000 All right.

00:43:33.000 So that's the battle inside the Democratic Party.

00:43:35.000 It's going great.

00:43:35.000 If you thought that Chuck Schumer, however, was the reasonable side of the Democratic Party, I beg to differ.

00:43:40.000 Here he was explaining that Americans are stupid.

00:43:42.000 He was mocking Americans who want to keep their money.

00:43:45.000 And you know what their attitude is?

00:43:47.000 I made my money all by myself.

00:43:49.000 How dare your government take my money for me?

00:43:51.000 I don't want to pay taxes.

00:43:53.000 Or I built my company with my bare hands.

00:43:55.000 How dare your government tell me how I should treat my customers, the land and water that I own, or my employees.

00:44:04.000 They hate government.

00:44:06.000 Governments a barrier to people, a barrier to stop them from doing things.

00:44:10.000 They want to destroy it.

00:44:12.000 We are not letting them do it and we're united.

00:44:15.000 Oh, man.

00:44:16.000 I mean, the fists of uniting.

00:44:19.000 Wow. Go, go, power rangers.

00:44:21.000 But let me just put it out there that that's actually my viewpoint.

00:44:26.000 We, not I, we, our team built this entire company.

00:44:30.000 The government did not help us.

00:44:32.000 The government provided the basic law and order necessary to the preservation of private property in the United States and the protection of free speech.

00:44:38.000 Those were the things.

00:44:40.000 That's all the things.

00:44:41.000 We built it.

00:44:42.000 Not Chuck Schumer.

00:44:43.000 He is not entitled to our money.

00:44:45.000 Chuck Schumer is not entitled to the money that I've earned on behalf of my family.

00:44:48.000 He is not entitled.

00:44:49.000 And I don't think many Americans believe that Chuck Schumer is entitled to that money or that he's likely to use it in good ways.

00:44:54.000 So, again, the Democrats, they cannot help themselves.

00:44:57.000 Even the divide inside Chuck Schumer is pretty amusing.

00:45:00.000 Meanwhile, the 2028 race is getting significantly more amusing on the Democratic side of the aisle.

00:45:04.000 I do have to say.

00:45:05.000 So Gavin Newsom is trying a sort of late turn in time to become a moderate.

00:45:10.000 It's really funny.

00:45:12.000 So guys his new podcast, and he had on my friend Charlie Kirk, and Charlie really kind of ripped him up.

00:45:17.000 And then he had on Steve Bannon.

00:45:20.000 And... He played footsie with Bannon, and this caused him to be ripped up and down by the inflatable off the side of the freeway to use car lot, Tim Walls.

00:45:32.000 You remember him.

00:45:33.000 He ran for Vice President that one time.

00:45:35.000 He was real weird.

00:45:36.000 Here was Tim Walls with Gavin Newsom, Newsom, praising Steve Bannon as a person who he can talk with and who really reflects a lot of democratic principles.

00:45:46.000 How do we put some of those guys back under Iraq? 0.80

00:45:49.000 I think we have to first understand what their motivations are.

00:45:52.000 I think we have to understand what they're actually doing.

00:45:54.000 You don't think that's important.

00:45:56.000 I think there's a lot of that, but I don't think it's exclusively that.

00:45:59.000 When you talk to a guy like Steve Bannon, you know, he reminded me a little bit of my grandfather when he talks about working folks and he talks about how we hollowed out the industrial core of this country.

00:46:08.000 I understand that.

00:46:09.000 But so we can dismiss the notion of election denialism.

00:46:13.000 We could completely dismiss what he did on January 6th.

00:46:16.000 But I don't think you can dismiss what he's saying, reminds me a lot of what Bernie Sanders was saying.

00:46:21.000 Remind me a lot of what Democrats said 20, 30 years ago.

00:46:25.000 Oh, man, I'm up for these fights between Gavin Newsom and Tim Walls.

00:46:29.000 Walls, by the way, is now walking around saying that he can kick Trump supporters asses, which...

00:46:35.000 Which ones?

00:46:36.000 Can we name them?

00:46:37.000 Like, really?

00:46:37.000 Like, you, sir?

00:46:40.000 Okay. How do you fight it?

00:46:44.000 Well, this notion of text.

00:46:45.000 I think I could kick most of their ass.

00:46:47.000 I do think that they want to do.

00:46:50.000 I don't know if we're going to fall into that place where we want to, okay, we challenge you to a, you know, a WWE fight here type of thing.

00:46:59.000 These are the 2028 candidates, guys.

00:47:01.000 They're doing great.

00:47:02.000 They're just doing amazing.

00:47:05.000 All righty.

00:47:05.000 Coming up, we'll jump into President Trump now investigating the Joe Biden Auto Pen.

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