The Ben Shapiro Show - Newsom’s REVENGE Redistricting…PLUS The Sandwich-Throwing Resistance!

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00:01:38.000 Well, Gavin Newsom, the California governor, he is running for the nomination for the Democratic Party in 2028, and he has a plan, a redistricting plan.

00:01:47.000 I know very, very exciting stuff.

00:01:49.000 He is acting all hot and bothered about the fact that the Texas state legislature is going to redistrict, which they are allowed to do by all available and applicable law in the state of Texas.

00:01:59.000 California, they're really not supposed to do this.

00:02:00.000 In California, the state constitution says that you redistrict every 10 years with the census, and also that there is an independent commission that is supposed to be doing the redistricting.

00:02:10.000 Well, now Gavin Newsom has decided it's his moment.

00:02:13.000 Now, Gavin Newsom believes that it's always his moment.

00:02:16.000 That's the thing about Gavin Newsom.

00:02:17.000 He has never not had a moment.

00:02:19.000 Just in the last few months, you've had the Gavin Newsom moment over the fires where he blamed President Trump somehow for giant fires that were happening in his state.

00:02:28.000 And then you had the Gavin Newsom moment over illegal immigration, where he claimed that President Trump was trying to fascistically take over the state of California.

00:02:34.000 And now the third Gavin Newsom moment in the past six months, he is now claiming that he is going to redistrict the state of California in order to fight back against those evil Texas state legislators who are attempting to redistrict and put the state more in line with its actual political proclivities.

00:02:51.000 Well, according to the Wall Street Journal, California Democrats are planning their own redistricting effort to counter President Trump's push for a new congressional map in Texas to create more Republican House seats.

00:03:01.000 So he laid out a plan on Thursday to redraw the state's congressional maps to put Democrats in position to flip five seats in the 2026 midterm elections.

00:03:09.000 He called for a special November 4th election to put the maps before California voters.

00:03:14.000 And he said we have to meet fire with fire.

00:03:16.000 Here he was yesterday explaining his plan.

00:03:19.000 We'll be asking for the people on November 4th, a special election, coinciding with a lot of local municipal elections, to provide a temporary pathway for congressional maps.

00:03:32.000 We will affirm our commitment to the state independent redistricting after the 2030 census, but we're asking the voters for their consent to do midterm redistricting in 2026, 2028, and 2030 for the congressional maps to respond to what's happening in Texas, to respond what Trump is trying to excite.

00:03:56.000 Now, you might be saying to yourself, wait, hold up.

00:03:58.000 I thought that California was one of the states that has an independent redistricting commission in an attempt to prevent things like what Gavin Newsom is doing right now.

00:04:07.000 And the answer is they do.

00:04:09.000 That's true.

00:04:10.000 And also, California does not have very many Republican seats in the first place.

00:04:14.000 In fact, the state of California is split about 60, 40, Democrats who Republican, but Democrats hold an extraordinary number of seats in the state of California.

00:04:24.000 Like many, many more seats than 60%.

00:04:27.000 And yet he wants to redistrict anyway.

00:04:29.000 Why?

00:04:30.000 Well, as a response to President Trump's supposed craziness, here's Gavin Newsom suggesting we have to fight fire with fire, which again is sort of a bad metaphor for him to be using considering his state is legitimately and literally on fire every couple of months, thanks to his forestation policies.

00:04:49.000 We have got to recognize the cards that have been dealt.

00:04:53.000 And we have got to meet fire with fire.

00:04:56.000 And we've got to be held to a higher level of accountability.

00:05:00.000 So that's what this is about.

00:05:02.000 It's not complicated.

00:05:03.000 We're doing this in reaction to a president of the United States that called a sitting governor of the state of Texas and said, find me five seats.

00:05:12.000 California currently has 52 congressional seats and 43 of them are held by Democrats.

00:05:17.000 So that's a lot more than the percentage of the population of California that is actually Democrat.

00:05:23.000 So they're going to fight fire with fire by doing more of what California has been doing all along.

00:05:27.000 Just to demonstrate, by the way, what a sham the Independent Redistricting Commission is generally in the state of California, because California is indeed fairly highly gerrymandered.

00:05:36.000 The independent redistricting commissioner, Sarah Sadwani, showed up to say that her authority should be taken away from her and they should simply redraw the maps without any independent redistricting authority, which shows how independent she was in the first place.

00:05:48.000 Not that she's a Democratic tool or anything. 0.99

00:05:50.000 Here we go.

00:05:52.000 We have witnessed masked gunmen kidnapping our neighbors off the streets.

00:05:57.000 And my understanding is they're outside waiting to do it again.

00:06:05.000 We have seen not just the toleration of political violence, but the encouragement of it on January 6th against nonpartisan election officials and the deployment of the National Guard in our cities, turning our cities into police states.

00:06:25.000 And if that wasn't enough, we are watching executive overreach that no doubt is making our founding fathers turn in their graves.

00:06:36.000 So she seems like a very independent commissioner.

00:06:38.000 She probably is not a Democrat at all, probably, by the way.

00:06:42.000 Her normal day job is that she is a professor of politics, specializing in Asian American and Latino voting behavior elections, interest groups, and representation at Pomona College.

00:06:50.000 So obviously, this is a person with no political priors at all.

00:06:54.000 Now, there is a problem for the Democrats in California, and that is that the Californian voters are not particularly interested in doing any of this.

00:07:02.000 According to a new poll, by a two-to-one margin, voters prefer keeping an independent line-drawing panel to determine the state's House seats.

00:07:08.000 Only 36% of respondents back returning congressional redistricting authority to state lawmakers.

00:07:14.000 Jack Citron, a veteran political science professor at UC Berkeley, said, quote, it's not surprising in the sense that California has voted twice for this independent review commission not all that long ago.

00:07:22.000 There's a lot of mistrust and cynicism about politicians and the legislature, and that is reflected here.

00:07:26.000 That's according to Politico.

00:07:28.000 So it's a problem for Gavin Newsom.

00:07:29.000 But in essence, does Gavin Newsom actually care about any of this?

00:07:32.000 Of course he does not.

00:07:33.000 Of course he does not.

00:07:35.000 If he wants to take the California Democrats from 43 of 52 possible seats in California to 48 of 52 possible seats in California, now that's nothing new.

00:07:46.000 That's nothing special.

00:07:47.000 He was just prevented by the California Constitution from doing it.

00:07:49.000 And if, in fact, the voters stop him, well, he can still say he tried his best, which is the most important thing because Gavin Newsom is interested in one thing and one thing only, and that is running for president in 2028, which is why he continues to promote the lie that President Trump is going to run for an unconstitutional third term in 2028.

00:08:07.000 Here is Gavin Newsom doing this regime yesterday.

00:08:10.000 I said it a moment ago, wake up, America.

00:08:13.000 Wake up.

00:08:14.000 You will not have a country if he rigs this election.

00:08:17.000 You will have a president who will be running for a third term.

00:08:19.000 Mark my word.

00:08:21.000 I wasn't exaggerating when I said that I received in the mail a Trump 2028 hat from one of his biggest supporters.

00:08:27.000 These guys are not screwing around.

00:08:30.000 The rules do not apply to him. 0.96

00:08:32.000 The most corrupt president in history.

00:08:36.000 Okay, guys, I think we need to send Gavin Newsom a Trump 2036 hat.

00:08:40.000 Just because obviously, if somebody sent him as a joke a Trump 2028 hat and he took it seriously, let's go further than that.

00:08:47.000 Trump 2040 hat.

00:08:49.000 We need to make one and we need to send it to California Governor Gavin Newsom because the dude cannot take a joke.

00:08:54.000 Or alternatively, he knows full well that's not going to happen and he's scaremongering because he wants to run for president.

00:08:59.000 Okay, well, this culminated yesterday in ICE agents showing up outside Newsom's presser on redistricting.

00:09:07.000 Already coming up, ICE agents showed up outside Gavin Newsom's ridiculous event.

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00:11:28.000 According to MediaIT, federal immigration officials detained at least one person outside of Governor Gavin Newsom's speech on Thursday, discussing the Texas push to redistrict its congressional map, according to the local news.

00:11:38.000 Newsom's office posted images of ICE agents outside the event.

00:11:41.000 And then he wrote, Trump's private army is illegally on private property.

00:11:45.000 We will not be intimidated by this weak little man.

00:11:47.000 Three exclamation points, all capital letters.

00:11:50.000 Oh, he's so tiresome.

00:11:51.000 He's so unbelievably tiresome.

00:11:53.000 Apparently, U.S. Border Patrol Sector Commander Gregory Bovino spoke to NBC Los Angeles and told them they were, quote, conducting roving immigration enforcement patrols in the area, and one person was taken into custody.

00:12:05.000 The report added that the video filmed in the area should masked U.S. Border Patrol agents taking man into custody near several federal buildings in the area, one of which includes a detention center.

00:12:15.000 So Gavin Newsom told the crowd, apparently, that it was not a coincidence.

00:12:20.000 He said, Donald Trump's minions, Tom Homan, decided this was the location.

00:12:24.000 They'd advance.

00:12:25.000 Donald Trump, you have poked the bear.

00:12:27.000 We will punch back. 1.00

00:12:28.000 Punching bears. 0.99

00:12:29.000 That's where we are at this point.

00:12:31.000 Just great.

00:12:32.000 Here is the footage of Border Patrol outside the presser on redistricting.

00:12:38.000 Border Patrol has arrived just outside of the downtown LA venue where Governor Gavin Newsom was actually holding a press conference today.

00:12:47.000 And it appears that those Border Patrol agents are making arrests, illegal immigrants.

00:12:52.000 I don't know if they were at this press conference, if they were in the area, but this is a very, as John put it, we first saw this video, a very in-your-face way to let Democrats know that you are going to do your job, that you're going to carry out these Trump policies.

00:13:10.000 Well, the Homeland Security Secretary, Christy Noam, was on Fox News as this footage was airing, and here's what she had to say about the situation.

00:13:17.000 Every single one of our ICE and Border Patrol operations is built on information, on investigative work.

00:13:24.000 It's a case and an operation that has been planned because of who they think could be in that area And what they have for information that shows that there are illegal criminals there.

00:13:33.000 Remember, we're focusing on the worst of the worst.

00:13:36.000 So I don't know specific to what information that they had for that operation that they planned today, but it was based on the investigative work that all law enforcement officers do for every single operation they conduct to make sure that they're getting dangerous criminals off our streets.

00:13:51.000 Okay, so apparently this was not enough for Democrats.

00:13:54.000 Democrats, it is amazing.

00:13:56.000 If President Trump came out in favor of getting rid of cancer, if he started some sort of Operation Warp Speed to fight cancer, Democrats would come out in favor of cancer.

00:14:05.000 I have zero doubt about this.

00:14:06.000 It is amazing.

00:14:07.000 They are coming out in favor of crime, illegal immigration, and every other 80-20 issue. 0.98

00:14:11.000 They are taking 20% simply if Trump takes the 80% issue and in the dumbest possible way. 0.98

00:14:17.000 So, in what has to amount to the stupidest protest I've ever seen, yesterday there was a man whose name is Sean Charles Dunn, who approached law enforcement officers in Washington, D.C. and began yelling obscenities and calling them fascists. 0.98

00:14:31.000 And then, if you can't see this video, he is holding a sandwich and he chucks his sandwich at one of the officers and then tries to take off down the street. 0.99

00:14:43.000 He looks like he's coming straight from his golf game at the local club.

00:14:47.000 He's wearing like a pink polo shirt or a pink button down, and then he just chucks his sandwich and now he takes off down the street with the grace of a gazelle.

00:14:56.000 And the officers start chasing him.

00:14:58.000 He's kind of loping down the sidewalk.

00:15:00.000 By the way, this is not like an urgent run.

00:15:02.000 These people are not fast.

00:15:04.000 I got to say, training at Border Patrol.

00:15:06.000 We need some track training for Border Patrol.

00:15:08.000 If it took him this long to run this guy down, this guy takes the sandwich, chucks it at the Border Patrol agent.

00:15:15.000 Now he's resisting by losing his lunch.

00:15:18.000 He also broke the very first rule of Jussie Smollett: never throw the subway sandwich.

00:15:22.000 Hold on to that thing for dear life. 0.99

00:15:24.000 Well, apparently, it's not just this schmuck who's throwing sandwiches. 0.99

00:15:29.000 Maybe it wasn't a very good sandwich. 0.99

00:15:30.000 I don't know.

00:15:31.000 There's a lot left to that sandwich.

00:15:32.000 I feel like it's not a good use of food.

00:15:33.000 It's like the food fight from hook.

00:15:35.000 But anyway, he throws the sandwich at the Border Patrol agent.

00:15:38.000 It turns out that this guy is a DOJ employee.

00:15:42.000 Great.

00:15:43.000 So you have Justice Department employees who are now assaulting federal law enforcement with sandwiches.

00:15:50.000 Sandwiches are beautiful.

00:15:52.000 Sandwiches are fight.

00:15:54.000 According to the Washington Post, in court documents filed on Wednesday.

00:15:58.000 Police allege that Sean Charles Dunn approached law enforcement officers, including Metro Transit Police and U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers, and began yelling obscenities and calling them fascists.

00:16:07.000 And then he threw a sandwich at one of the officers.

00:16:10.000 He was charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers and employees of the United States.

00:16:15.000 After his arrest, after his arrest, Dunn allegedly told one of the officers, quote, I did it.

00:16:22.000 I threw a sandwich.

00:16:26.000 Slow clap for you, sir.

00:16:28.000 Hero of the day, you tossed your lunch.

00:16:32.000 Pam Bondi, the attorney general, posted on X, if you touch any law enforcement officer, we will come after you.

00:16:37.000 This is an example of the deep state we've been up against for seven months as we work to refocus the DOJ.

00:16:42.000 And apparently, he will be charged with a felony who's a paralegal and worked as an international affairs specialist in the criminal division of the DOJ.

00:16:51.000 So he could do up to eight years in prison.

00:16:53.000 He won't, obviously.

00:16:54.000 He gave only a few brief answers to the magistrate judge's questions, but smiled as he conferred with his defense attorney after the court agreed to release him on his own recognizance for now.

00:17:04.000 So apparently the government sent 20 police officers to his home.

00:17:09.000 Apparently, he's an Air Force veteran.

00:17:11.000 The lawyer said he did absolutely the most responsible thing by trying to surrender.

00:17:16.000 Well, that is solid stuff.

00:17:18.000 So apparently the reason this got caught on tape is because a person on Instagram saw this person shouting at Border Patrol and they turned on their phone and then he chants shame and then he walks back and heaves a sandwich at the officers.

00:17:32.000 So solid stuff there, solid stuff there from Democrats and their allies in the DOJ who will no longer have a job.

00:17:41.000 Meanwhile, the federal government continues to arrest human traffickers in Los Angeles.

00:17:46.000 This is who they are arresting.

00:17:47.000 Here's some footage.

00:17:49.000 In a partnered investigation, including the DOJ, Homeland Security, and LAPD, 11 suspects across LA were targeted in a RICO case at a downtown motel used to allegedly sell women, federal agents surrounded one of their 11 suspects and took him into custody.

00:18:06.000 Police say during the operation, they also rescued four victims, including a minor.

00:18:11.000 Federal investigators say a female, Amaya Armstead, who goes by the street name Lady Duck, was a lead target and prolific human trafficker. 0.90

00:18:19.000 Her moniker even tattooed on at least four victims' bodies.

00:18:25.000 We must throw sandwiches in order to protect these people.

00:18:29.000 Seems great.

00:18:30.000 And Democrats are doing a wonderful job of taking every 20% issue.

00:18:33.000 Speaking of which, in Washington, D.C., President Trump has been utilizing federal law enforcement and federalization of the police forces to get rid of gigantic homeless incampers on Thursday, according to the Washington Post, President Trump promised to have the crime situation in D.C. solved very soon.

00:18:50.000 Pam Bonni, the AG, has directed D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser and the police department to submit to a new governing structure with Terry Cole, a Trump appointee, as the emergency police commissioner.

00:19:00.000 Apparently, a White House official says federal operations will run 24 hours a day rather than simply focusing on nighttime hours and will target high crime areas and known hotspots.

00:19:09.000 There were also stepped up efforts to address the tents and other visible signs of homelessness that have long seized President Trump's attention.

00:19:15.000 By the way, I mean, for quality of life, you should not have to live in a city where homeless encampments overrun every sidewalk and every underpass.

00:19:25.000 Public parks should not just be gigantic homeless encampments.

00:19:27.000 That's what L.A. turned into, and it was a bleep show.

00:19:30.000 It was terrible.

00:19:31.000 I'd go to the park with my kids.

00:19:32.000 There'd be open needles everywhere.

00:19:33.000 It was insane.

00:19:36.000 President Trump spoke from the Oval Office, and he said that National Guard troops can make a meaningful difference because he says they're common sense.

00:19:44.000 They're very tough people.

00:19:46.000 And by the way, it is true.

00:19:47.000 Are you going to go and commit a crime right in front of the National Guard?

00:19:50.000 It turns out that presence in high crime areas deters crime.

00:19:54.000 This is not a gigantic shock.

00:19:56.000 Now, National Guard members are not armed.

00:19:58.000 They're not going to be conducting law enforcement activities.

00:20:01.000 They're not going to be arresting people because that is not what they are empowered to do.

00:20:06.000 However, nobody is going to be messing around by violating the law right in front of the National Guard.

00:20:11.000 That'd be a dumb move because they are working in concert with local law enforcement.

00:20:16.000 Apparently, the National Park Service also regularly cleared homeless encampments on federal land in the district.

00:20:24.000 Caroline Levitt has said two encampments remain in the National Park Service jurisdiction in D.C., and she said the removal of those two remaining camps is in fact scheduled for this week.

00:20:33.000 Members of the D.C. Health and Human Services team began clearing an encampment on Thursday morning on a grassy no man's land near the Kennedy Center after giving the residents a day notice to remove their belongings.

00:20:43.000 And they sent a bunch of caterpillars to basically run over whatever tents were remaining and take them away. 0.74

00:20:50.000 Well, I mean, that is a good thing.

00:20:52.000 Now, again, this is not a violation of law.

00:20:55.000 This is all in concert with the Home Act of Washington, D.C. It's all in concert with the Constitution of the United States.

00:21:03.000 The Trump administration is also going to be utilizing federal law enforcement to effectuate immigration policy in Washington, D.C. in a stricter way.

00:21:12.000 So President Trump, according to Axios, has deployed the National Guard to L.A., sent the National Guard to the southern border, and he's going to target five other Democrat-led cities in a campaign against crime.

00:21:22.000 Federal officers aren't generally doing civilian law enforcement, but they are going to be able to back up local law enforcement.

00:21:32.000 The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits federal military troops from participating in civilian law enforcement.

00:21:36.000 The Insurrection Act is the primary exception that allows in cases of riot or insurrection for the National Guard to be activated to do that sort of stuff.

00:21:44.000 But FBI agents are helping to arrest civilians, according to a post from FBI Director Cash Patel.

00:21:50.000 And when it comes to the National Guard, they do have broad latitude, according to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth.

00:21:56.000 And in the event that police officers aren't around, Guard members will have to have their back to ensure they can take the necessary action to protect the citizens of D.C. So, again, it is more about putting additional boots on the ground.

00:22:08.000 That is the goal.

00:22:09.000 Now, amazingly, Democrats have again decided that apparently crime and homelessness are good or at least not a big deal.

00:22:17.000 Chuck Schumer, the Senate minority leader, he says there's no way in hell that we are going to congressionally extend federal authority in Washington, D.C. Well, he's not going to have much of a say about it because this is going to go along party line votes.

00:22:33.000 If he went to Congress and said, you know what, there's this crime emergency.

00:22:36.000 We need the National Guard out there longer.

00:22:38.000 We need to take over Washington, D.C., would you grant it?

00:22:42.000 No way.

00:22:44.000 We'll go.

00:22:45.000 We'll fight him tooth and nail.

00:22:47.000 And right now, as you said, he can only do it for 30 days, or now I guess it's 26 or 27, whatever.

00:22:53.000 And he needs to get Congress to approve it.

00:22:58.000 And not only are we not going to approve it, but I have a fear.

00:23:02.000 There are some Republicans who don't like it either.

00:23:06.000 Yeah, no, that's not going to be a thing.

00:23:09.000 Already coming up, the Democrats cannot break with Zor Mom Donnie. 0.96

00:23:12.000 That's because they agree with Zorin Momdani.

00:23:14.000 Plus, we'll have Isabel Brown on to talk about Taylor Swift's new album.

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00:25:31.000 Meanwhile, Hakeem Jeffries, the House minority leader, he says this is all an illegitimate power grab.

00:25:36.000 I stand with the people of Washington, D.C. I stand with Mayor Bowser, and we are strongly supporting their efforts to stop this scheme to take over the police department in the District of Columbia, which is nothing more than an illegitimate power grab.

00:25:55.000 I mean, it's unbelievable.

00:25:57.000 It truly is.

00:25:57.000 Trump comes out against crime and illegal immigration, and the Democrats are like, we love them.

00:26:02.000 They're great.

00:26:04.000 I mean, this is why Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana, again, he has some of the most sort of colorful euphemisms in Congress for sure.

00:26:12.000 Here's Senator Kennedy on Fox talking about Schumer and Jeffries.

00:26:16.000 Chucky Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, they're, quote, minority leaders in name only.

00:26:22.000 They'll never stand up to that wing, will they?

00:26:27.000 No, but they could.

00:26:29.000 And I don't mean any disrespect.

00:26:31.000 I don't know Mr. Jeffries that well.

00:26:34.000 I know Senator Schumer very well.

00:26:36.000 So I say this with respect. 0.98

00:26:38.000 Chuck and Hakeem need to go to Amazon, buy some testicles, and stand up for the blue wing of their party. 0.97

00:26:50.000 Yeah, well, they're not going to. 0.97

00:26:51.000 They're not going to.

00:26:52.000 The blue wing of the party owns the party at this point.

00:26:55.000 And again, these are losing issues for Democrats.

00:26:57.000 Harry Enton over at CNN broke down the polling on crime.

00:27:00.000 It Turns out that President Trump is quite popular on crime because people don't like crime.

00:27:03.000 I know this is a big shocker to Democrats, apparently.

00:27:06.000 People do not like crime.

00:27:07.000 In fact, they will leave areas where crime has become endemic for areas where it has not.

00:27:11.000 It was one of the main factors in my family moving from California to Florida.

00:27:16.000 It's one of the things I brag to all my California friends.

00:27:18.000 Again, last time I was in Los Angeles, my friends were effectively carjacked in front of us, like a block away.

00:27:26.000 It was crazy.

00:27:27.000 People don't like that.

00:27:28.000 People don't want to leave in those areas.

00:27:30.000 All they want, this is basically the one thing that local government must do is guarantee the safety and security of its law-abiding citizens.

00:27:38.000 And if you won't do that, then you don't deserve to be in office.

00:27:42.000 Here is Harry Enton discussing President Trump on crime.

00:27:45.000 I think this sort of gives the game away here because Donald Trump is like Eric Jordan towering over Joe Biden when it comes to their handling of crime.

00:27:53.000 Look, in 2024, look at where Biden's net approval was on crime.

00:27:57.000 Way underwater there at minus 26 points.

00:28:00.000 It was one of Biden's worst issues.

00:28:01.000 Granted, pretty much every issue was one of Biden's worst issues.

00:28:04.000 And again, look at where Donald Trump is.

00:28:06.000 Way, way, way above Joe Biden.

00:28:09.000 What is that?

00:28:10.000 That's 27 points.

00:28:11.000 So Americans vastly prefer Donald Trump's approach to crime than they did to Joe Biden's.

00:28:18.000 And Democrats are so ensconced in their woke, they can't get out.

00:28:21.000 Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson, who, again, by our friends and sponsors over perplexity, is the mayor with the lowest approval rating in all of America, says that what's really happening here when Trump is fighting crime and illegal immigration is that he is intimidated by the intellectual prowess of black men, which is a hell of a take.

00:28:38.000 Honest to God, I'm not sure how he's getting here, but I too am astonished by his intellectual prowess.

00:28:44.000 Let me just answer that.

00:28:45.000 I do appreciate you begging.

00:28:47.000 So I would just say it like this, that the president has always been intimidated by the intellectual prowess of black men.

00:28:56.000 And so, of course, he would speak in those petite and puerile terms.

00:29:05.000 Well, probably, probably the Democratic Party should follow his lead.

00:29:08.000 And they are in New York.

00:29:10.000 So yesterday, Zoran Mamdani went to Staten Island to campaign.

00:29:13.000 He, of course, is the Democratic nominee for mayor of New York.

00:29:16.000 He's likely to be the next mayor of New York because no one can get their act together on the other side of the aisle to consolidate.

00:29:22.000 There continue to be three candidates, none of whom is going to be mayor, if two of the others don't drop out and at least create some sort of fighting chance here.

00:29:28.000 Mamdani is likely to win anyway.

00:29:30.000 He went to Staten Island, which, of course, is a Redder area of New York. 1.00

00:29:33.000 And some of the constituents were yelling at him because it turns out that they may not want their city completely taken over by communism.

00:29:39.000 Communist!

00:29:41.000 You guys are looking for a city here!

00:29:44.000 Sorry, I want something to eat.

00:29:48.000 We pay you some back. 0.99

00:29:50.000 You are not welcome in this f***ing island. 0.99

00:29:52.000 I'm sure I'm swimming. 1.00

00:29:54.000 You hate them. 1.00

00:29:56.000 You f***ing. 1.00

00:29:57.000 You hate me. 1.00

00:29:58.000 Hey, Mr. Mam Dandy, can I talk to you? 0.99

00:30:01.000 This is my f***ing island. 0.99

00:30:04.000 You're not welcome here, Brock. 1.00

00:30:08.000 You hate Jews. 1.00

00:30:10.000 You hate this country. 1.00

00:30:12.000 You hate this shot for the time volume.

00:30:16.000 Don't put it on the hold!

00:30:21.000 Bravo!

00:30:22.000 you But the Democratic Party continues to romance Zoran Mamdani.

00:30:27.000 Piece by Maragay writing for the New York Times.

00:30:29.000 Some Democrats panicked over Mamdani.

00:30:31.000 Obama called him.

00:30:32.000 Well, I'm sure Obama did.

00:30:33.000 Obama is Mamdani. 0.59

00:30:35.000 He is.

00:30:36.000 He was a community organizer with no history of gainful employment who then went into the Senate for two years and then ran for president of the United States.

00:30:43.000 And all of his policy prescriptions basically mirrored Momdani's. 0.60

00:30:48.000 He and Mamdani alike think of America as an exploitative colonialist state on planet Earth, think of capitalism as a problem.

00:30:57.000 So of course Obama called Mamdani because they are two peas in a pod.

00:31:00.000 The new attempt to retcon Barack Obama into some sort of glorious moderate is insane.

00:31:05.000 He was a radical, radical president who broke the country in a wide variety of ways.

00:31:09.000 But according to Maragay, former President Barack Obama, the last Democrat to captivate the party's base, got on the phone.

00:31:15.000 In a lengthy call in June, Mr. Obama congratulated Mr. Mamdani, offered him advice about governing, and discussed the importance of giving people hope in a dark time, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

00:31:25.000 Others in Mr. Obama's orbit have also shown a keen interest in Mr. Mamdani and his campaign.

00:31:29.000 Jon Favreau, who served as Mr. Obama's speechwriter, and Dan Pfeiffer, a former senior advisor, have been in communications with Democratic strategist Morris Katz, among Mr. Mamdani's closest aides.

00:31:39.000 David Axelrod was also curious.

00:31:42.000 Axelrod said, What I found when I went over to that office was a familiar spirit that I hadn't seen in a while of just determined, upbeat idealism.

00:31:48.000 You may not agree with every answer he's giving or every idea he has, but he's certainly asking the right questions, which is how do we make the country work for working people?

00:31:57.000 Wow.

00:31:57.000 He asked the right questions, but he has all the wrong answers.

00:32:00.000 But that's fine because he has energy.

00:32:03.000 Our politics are so broken, man.

00:32:05.000 They are so broken. 1.00

00:32:06.000 The Democrats have no systemic immunity to the socialist idiocy of Zorin Mamdani. 0.99

00:32:10.000 Andrew Ross Sorkin over on CNBC had on Hakeem Jeffries, and he asked him about Mamdani's policies. 0.96

00:32:16.000 And I will say that Hakeem Jeffries, that dude, he's like Fred Astaire.

00:32:20.000 He can tap dance.

00:32:21.000 Here we go.

00:32:22.000 Don't try to devastate.

00:32:23.000 I understand that.

00:32:24.000 I'm just curious what you players.

00:32:25.000 I'm curious where you land on things like freezing rents, free buses, giving away free food at supermarkets and the like.

00:32:37.000 And what you just think of that idea and what it represents.

00:32:43.000 Listen, Zoron is going to have to make the case to the people of New York City, including in the neighborhoods that I represent, that these ideas, which are designed to address affordability in New York City and that as a top-line effort is important.

00:32:59.000 The cost of living is the number one issue here in the city, number one issue across the country.

00:33:05.000 It's why Donald Trump's poll numbers are in the you may have noticed there was no answer to the question, what do you think of his policies?

00:33:13.000 Well, he's going to have to go out and talk about them.

00:33:15.000 Cool, cool.

00:33:16.000 Well, Sorkin pressed some more.

00:33:18.000 And again, didn't go amazing.

00:33:20.000 Do you agree with Theoblin?

00:33:21.000 Who's going to coaches as a solution?

00:33:23.000 Look, you and I agree.

00:33:25.000 Affordability is this number one issue.

00:33:27.000 New York is the number one issue in the country.

00:33:29.000 And so he has done a great job of identifying that issue and articulating that issue.

00:33:36.000 The question is how you attack that issue.

00:33:40.000 And what I'm asking you is whether you agree with the solutions that he's offering.

00:33:46.000 Here's what my solution would be.

00:33:48.000 And I've said this directly to him and will continue to say it to policymakers across the city, the state, and the country.

00:33:56.000 We have a situation in New York City and across America where the demand for housing that is affordable greatly exceeds the supply.

00:34:06.000 That's a problem.

00:34:08.000 That imbalance is jamming people up.

00:34:13.000 So that was still not an answer to the question, but that's the entire Democratic pitch here is say socialist things and then run away from the implications of the socialist things.

00:34:22.000 Now, the problem is they have real world impact.

00:34:24.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, blue states are hunting for ways to wring more taxes from the wealthy.

00:34:29.000 Well, I mean, we're down here in Florida.

00:34:33.000 Come, come, come to us.

00:34:35.000 Come to us.

00:34:36.000 Come to the grip of a state that has a 0% income tax and a very friendly business environment.

00:34:43.000 You can all come down here.

00:34:45.000 We are happy to take you.

00:34:46.000 Don't bring your politics.

00:34:47.000 Leave those back in New York.

00:34:49.000 Leave those back in Delaware. 0.98

00:34:50.000 Bring some new politics that don't wreck your state and come on down.

00:34:55.000 Make your voices heard with your feet.

00:34:58.000 Take our businesses out of these states.

00:34:59.000 That is what's going to happen.

00:35:01.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, a growing number of blue cities and states across the country from Washington state's Rhode Island are looking at ways to wring more revenue from their richest taxpayers.

00:35:09.000 Lawmakers are boosting tax rates on robust annual incomes, hiking capital gains taxes, and putting new levies on luxury vacation homes.

00:35:17.000 Minnesota State Representative Aisha Gomez, a Democrat, who has sponsored legislation that would implement a higher tax rate for joint filers in Minnesota, making over a million dollars a year if federal Medicaid cuts take effect, says, quote, this is an attempt to acknowledge that people who are being richly rewarded by the economy in its current form are people who are going to disproportionately benefit from the bill passed by Congress.

00:35:36.000 Many legislators are considering potential taxes on rich residents of their states.

00:35:41.000 And they have been inspired by billions of dollars Massachusetts has collected since it's implemented an income surtax on those who are more than $1 million per year.

00:35:49.000 Connecticut is proposing a bill that would raise income tax rates on couples who make at least half a million dollars to offset expected federal funding losses from the new federal tax law.

00:35:58.000 Maryland Governor Wesmore in May signed into law his tax proposal, which includes higher income tax rates for state residents who make more than half a million dollars a year to close a budget deficit.

00:36:08.000 Rhode Island is going to do the same.

00:36:10.000 Well, again, we welcome you all down to a state that does not want to steal your money for the purposes of venal politicians.

00:36:18.000 Alrighty, coming up, Isabel Brown stops by.

00:36:21.000 We discussed Taylor Swift, among other things.

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00:37:40.000 Her book is The End of the Alphabet, which is all about Generation Z and its vicissitudes.

00:37:44.000 Isabel, thanks so much for joining the show.

00:37:46.000 Really appreciate it.

00:37:48.000 Thanks for having me back, Ben.

00:37:49.000 So psyched to be here.

00:37:52.000 So let's start by asking: what the hell is going on with Gen Z's support for Zorn Mamdani?

00:37:58.000 I have my own theories, but I want to hear yours since you're much closer to that generation than I am at this point.

00:38:03.000 It's a great question.

00:38:04.000 And honestly, I have to think that the media is pushing a very strong narrative about Gen Z being all in on Momdani for a reason.

00:38:12.000 Newsweek magazine just ran a headline that apparently he is the key to recapturing all of the young men that Republicans and conservatives made substantial inroads with for the 2024 election.

00:38:24.000 I don't fully buy that, but I do think there is a bit of renewed interest in the left because of Momdani being radically different from the rest of the left-wing political lineup, especially in New York City.

00:38:36.000 If your other options are Cuomo, who've been in political offices as a family for a very, very long time, or Eric Adams, something new with new ideas is somewhat appealing to young people across the board.

00:38:48.000 Now, those new ideas are terrible and are probably going to burn New York City to the ground, but I think it speaks volumes as to what young people are looking for to shake up the status quo and why Donald Trump was so appealing to them to begin with.

00:39:01.000 Well, one of the things that's sort of fascinating about Gen Z is, of course, this gigantic sex split between girls and boys, men and women in Gen Z. Men are trending, apparently, according to the polls, more Republican, although they seem to be sort of moving back to the mean, regressing to the mean.

00:39:16.000 Women tend to be moving significantly more to the left and very, very quickly to the left. 1.00

00:39:20.000 What's going on with Gen Z women? 1.00

00:39:23.000 You know, interestingly, that is the narrative.

00:39:25.000 And typically, when you see these graphs go major, major viral on X or Instagram or YouTube, I think there is this narrative that young women are overwhelmingly becoming radically more leftist while Gen Z men are becoming extremely conservative.

00:39:39.000 We know that young men are the most conservative generation we've seen in my lifetime.

00:39:44.000 And for the first time, young men under 35 are more conservative than the oldest generation that is currently alive for the last several generations, which I think is really fascinating.

00:39:53.000 But people are forgetting to mention that young women are also shifting substantially to the right, just not quite on pace with what we're seeing with young men.

00:40:02.000 From 2020 to 2024, for example, young women exit polling for women under the age of 35 voting shifted 11 points away from the Democrat Party towards the Republican Party in just one presidential election cycle.

00:40:16.000 And notably, this was during an election where young women were told you are only allowed to vote for the candidate that shares your genitalia and campaigns on the supposed women's right to end the life of your pre-born child.

00:40:29.000 So there are substantial inroads that are happening with young women.

00:40:33.000 The media is just refusing to cover that.

00:40:35.000 And it's not happening at the snowball pace quite as quickly as it is with young men.

00:40:41.000 Well, Isabel, you follow culture much more closely than I do because, again, I'm old.

00:40:44.000 But when it comes to the culture, the biggest news of the cultural moment is, of course, Taylor Swift has a new announcement about her new album.

00:40:53.000 I did talk about this very briefly on the show.

00:40:55.000 And by briefly, I mean, I spent 27 seconds, I believe, on it, because that's how important it is to my life.

00:40:59.000 But apparently, it's important to hundreds of millions of people that she has a new album out, something about the story of a showgirl or something.

00:41:06.000 And she announced this on her boyfriend's podcast, Travis Kelsey.

00:41:10.000 It is sort of fascinating to watch the evolution of her public image because of Travis Kelsey.

00:41:15.000 And I think it does say something kind of vaguely political because, you know, my rip on Taylor Swift has been that she's now, what, 35 years old and she's cosplaying as a 16-year-old girl all the time about her failed relationships and about how everyone has wronged her.

00:41:28.000 And meanwhile, she's a billionaire in what appears to be a relatively healthy relationship.

00:41:32.000 And so I've been rooting for them to get married and have kids, actually.

00:41:34.000 I think it'd be very good for America.

00:41:35.000 We can start the Taylor Swift baby boom.

00:41:37.000 But what is the story with her and Travis Kelsey?

00:41:40.000 Why is this important?

00:41:41.000 What is her new album going to be?

00:41:44.000 Despite only dedicating 27 seconds there, Ben, I think you actually have quite an accurate read on the cultural impact of this.

00:41:51.000 I am not a die-hard Swifty that would sell my car for tickets to the Aires tour like many people were going viral for over the last few years.

00:41:59.000 But I like Taylor Swift.

00:42:00.000 I always have growing up.

00:42:02.000 I think the last truly great album was 1989.

00:42:05.000 I was a senior in high school.

00:42:06.000 And gosh, the vibes of that album are just totally unmatched, which allegedly we're going to get similar pop star music in this new album coming out October 3rd, The Life of a Showgirl.

00:42:17.000 But zooming in on this interview and why this is such an interesting cultural moment right now, Taylor Swift has never appeared publicly on a red carpet with one of her boyfriends.

00:42:26.000 She's certainly never done a long form interview podcasting at all, but certainly with one of her significant others throughout history.

00:42:34.000 And she has a totally different energy about her than what I think she's been pretty famous for over the last 10 years or so, being the kind of cutting edge liberal women leader of whatever we're seeing with this cultural moment.

00:42:46.000 She's done lots of political statements over the past few years on social media and in documentaries, but she had a very different energy that she was putting out during this podcast episode that came out early this week.

00:42:57.000 By the way, is almost at 15 million views in just over 24 hours on track to be the most viewed single podcast episode ever of all time.

00:43:06.000 She seems happy and content and relaxed and comfortable in her life for the first time that I've ever noticed, certainly throughout her career as a musician.

00:43:16.000 And I think a lot of that has to do with her relationship dynamic with a pretty masculine man, an NFL player who is constantly talking about sports, has this podcast with his brother that they drink beer on and they talk about sports things all the time.

00:43:28.000 And she's admitting, you know, I never knew anything about this world before I started dating Travis, but now my eyes have been opened and I absolutely love it.

00:43:36.000 And now that the heiress tour has wrapped up, I spend most of my free time baking sourdough bread in the kitchen and I absolutely love it.

00:43:43.000 It's the best chapter of my life up to this point.

00:43:45.000 I don't know that she's even fully aware of the political connotation of what all of these statements actually mean, that she's leaning more into her femininity.

00:43:53.000 She's very comfortable dating a pretty masculine man compared to the tortured artists of her dating history.

00:43:59.000 And that's coming through to inspire other young women to do the same thing.

00:44:02.000 But just like we're seeing JoJo Siwa all of a sudden leave lesbianism behind or Demi Lovato get married and reunite with the Jonas brothers to make great music again.

00:44:12.000 I think we're watching Hollywood in general start to heal the same way our culture is.

00:44:18.000 Yeah, Isabelle, I mean, it'll be fascinating to see if she can carry her audience because this has always been a conundrum for pop stars as they hit their mid-30s and much of their brand has been built around sexuality and built around being kind of a single wild girl.

00:44:30.000 And you see that many of these women age out. 0.98

00:44:32.000 There's something vaguely pathetic about Madonna still twerking on stage at the age of 70 and even now watching the sort of hatred for Katy Perry in the public mind because of the way that she's gallivanting around, which is she's aged out of this role and she continues to play that role.

00:44:46.000 It'll be interesting to see if Taylor Swift moves in what is a more traditionalist direction with her personal life, what the ramifications are for her listenership.

00:44:54.000 Will people come along with her on a journey to, say, getting married and motherhood?

00:44:59.000 I sure hope so.

00:45:00.000 And I'm certainly rooting for that.

00:45:02.000 At least Katy Perry has a backup career as a professional astronaut now, but I don't think Taylor Swift has those same inroads to be going to space all the time. 0.99

00:45:10.000 But look, I think Taylor Swift is easily the most influential person impacting culture for young women.

00:45:16.000 The economic downstream impact that we've seen from the Aristor is unlike anything we've ever seen from the music industry and totally redefined live music as we know it.

00:45:24.000 And I certainly think she can impact the choices that young women are making, realizing, you know, I can have a meaningful relationship.

00:45:31.000 I can commit to someone long term.

00:45:33.000 I can be dating just one person in a culture that's telling me I should be embracing polyamory.

00:45:38.000 And those are good things.

00:45:40.000 They're solid foundations that I can love and appreciate and want to pass on to the next generation as well.

00:45:45.000 So I'm all for Taylor Swift and her sourdough baking, almost trad wife era being at home with her boyfriend.

00:45:52.000 She seems incredibly happy.

00:45:53.000 And I hope that inspires other young women to do the same thing.

00:45:57.000 Well, that's Isabel Brown.

00:45:58.000 She, of course, is the host of the Isabel Brown show, which premieres this fall at the Daily Wire.

00:46:02.000 And you can check out her new book, The End of the Alphabet.

00:46:05.000 And thanks for somehow making a conversation about Taylor Swift palatable to me, considering I did, I believe, a one-hour and 30-minute review of her last album, The Tortured Poets Department, which was pure torture.

00:46:17.000 You have somehow made this palatable.

00:46:18.000 I appreciate that.

00:46:19.000 Thank you.

00:46:20.000 Thanks for having me, Ben.

00:46:22.000 Well, meanwhile, speaking of the culture wars and left's failure to truly engage on a level that people understand, I have to say I am both bemused and amused by the decision by some NFL teams to now have male cheerleaders.

00:46:35.000 Now, there's a difference between many of the male cheerleaders that you see in college who, you know, are typically buff dudes who chuck ladies in the air.

00:46:43.000 I see these videos at cheerleading competitions where they're building human pyramids and stuff.

00:46:46.000 You need some dude who can pick up 300, 400 pounds on his shoulders in order to make that happen.

00:46:51.000 That is one kind of cheerleading. 1.00

00:46:52.000 That is not what these NFL cheerleaders are now doing. 1.00

00:46:55.000 And I have no idea why these teams are doing this.

00:46:59.000 Apparently, the Minnesota Vikings and the New England Patriots, among others, have decided that they are going to feature male cheerleaders who are basically gallivanting around effeminately like women. 0.99

00:47:10.000 That is the goal of these cheerleaders. 1.00

00:47:11.000 Again, male cheerleading has been a thing for 100 years or so, but this is a completely different thing.

00:47:18.000 I mean, take a look at these videos. 0.99

00:47:20.000 It's pretty pathetic. 0.99

00:47:28.000 Like they're doing the same dances as the girls. 0.99

00:47:30.000 Why?

00:47:32.000 Like, no one wants to see this from a dude.

00:47:34.000 No one.

00:47:36.000 So they're like dancing around in effeminate poses.

00:47:41.000 And here we got the same thing from the New England Patriot cheerleader.

00:47:44.000 And it's a man dancing like he's a backup dancer at a Madonna concert.

00:47:48.000 Like, why?

00:47:50.000 Just why?

00:47:53.000 Yeah, I mean, the NFL is predominantly a male-dominated audience.

00:47:58.000 Guys don't want to watch this.

00:47:59.000 Girls, by the way, don't want to watch this. 1.00

00:48:01.000 Like, seriously, how many women are interested in watching a man dancing among the women who's basically cosplaying as a woman? 0.99

00:48:10.000 I mean, that is what these dances are.

00:48:13.000 There's a way to do male cheerleading that is not innately effeminate.

00:48:16.000 That is not what this is.

00:48:18.000 And so the fact that they are continuing to do this with the NFL right now is so counter the moment.

00:48:23.000 It really, really is.

00:48:23.000 But it demonstrates that when it comes to the culture wars, the left never sleeps.

00:48:27.000 It really doesn't.

00:48:29.000 By the way, there is something good about male and female stereotypes. 0.66

00:48:32.000 I'm just going to say it.

00:48:33.000 I'm going to put that out there.

00:48:34.000 Male and female are two separate sexual categories in terms of, you know, like biological sex.

00:48:39.000 And it is good that males should be masculine and females should be effeminate. 1.00

00:48:43.000 That is it. 0.78

00:48:44.000 Females should be feminine. 1.00

00:48:45.000 That is a good thing.

00:48:47.000 And cross-pollinating those things is generally not a wonderful thing.

00:48:51.000 Doesn't mean that everybody has to fit into every specific box, but the idea of glorifying men who are dancing like women or women who act like men-that's a bizarre thing for any healthy civilization.

00:49:02.000 Because guess what?

00:49:03.000 It turns out that all of human society, including procreation, rests on the sexual dichotomy between men and women. 0.98

00:49:12.000 The fact that we even have to say these basic things demonstrates how stupid our society has become, that everything is supposed to be gender neutral, but that's not gender neutral. 0.98

00:49:20.000 It isn't. 0.98

00:49:21.000 And they're not doing the Charleston there.

00:49:23.000 They're twerking on the field.

00:49:25.000 Now, I can object, by the way, to cheerleaders generally as well. 0.90

00:49:28.000 I think there's a good case to be made that cheerleading as a general spectacle, what it has become, which is effectively people dancing like strippers in skimpy outfits, is ridiculous and should not be publicized. 0.54

00:49:40.000 That is a different critique. 0.60

00:49:42.000 But the notion that men should be prancing around like women, that somehow they should be celebrated at a very male sport is bizarre, to say the least.

00:49:51.000 And meanwhile, speaking of the culture wars, I have to say we have made an entire generation of people, America and social media, made an entire generation of people mentally unwell.

00:49:59.000 Ella M. Hoff is the allegedly model stepdaughter of Kamala Harris and Doug M. Hoff is her dad.

00:50:07.000 She put out a video yesterday in which she explained that she was anxious and nervous about climate change.

00:50:12.000 This is just being unwell.

00:50:14.000 Like this is a person who needs some mental help.

00:50:18.000 I feel disgust at what's going on in the world around genocides, the loss of rights, the loss of health care, the just general fear that everyone has surrounding affordability, their lives, their livelihood, like everything.

00:50:39.000 It's just, it feels so big.

00:50:42.000 I think everything with the environment is really getting to me.

00:50:49.000 And it is one, I experience a lot of climate anxiety, like a lot of us do.

00:50:58.000 It's not funny.

00:50:59.000 It's just like, it's one of those things.

00:51:01.000 It's not funny, but you just like nervous laugh about it because it's scary.

00:51:06.000 It is.

00:51:06.000 It's all of these things are happening.

00:51:09.000 And like, what are what, besides the small things we can do and pushing for change and fighting and protesting?

00:51:17.000 And it's really hard not to sit in those moments where it just feels so heavy.

00:51:23.000 Honestly, I kind of feel terrible for her.

00:51:25.000 Like, really, I want to laugh at her, but I kind of feel terrible for her because this is a person who has something going on, like emotionally and mentally.

00:51:31.000 This is not a person who is well.

00:51:32.000 And we've created an entire generation of people who are like this.

00:51:35.000 We really have.

00:51:36.000 People who are anxious, people who are narcissistic, people who think that the apotheosis of living is going to a protest to protest, you know, the sun or the fact that the climate is incrementally changing over the course of the next hundred years and get anxiety about that.

00:51:51.000 It is unwell.

00:51:52.000 It is unhealthy.

00:51:52.000 We have done something to an entire generation of people.

00:51:55.000 And that is the central problem in Western life.

00:51:57.000 It is not affordability.

00:51:58.000 Affordability is downstream of a generation of people who will not move to seek job opportunity outside of New York as a model or community organizer.

00:52:08.000 And that is an attitudinal problem.

00:52:10.000 And I'm not blaming the people who have the attitudinal problem.

00:52:12.000 I'm blaming a society that's created that attitudinal problem by not demanding that people actually be useful, go and fulfill the roles that make life worth living.

00:52:22.000 People who believe, apparently, that performative politics is the height of human existence.

00:52:28.000 And that is so much of the Democratic Party at this point, the performative politics.

00:52:33.000 This is why you have Jasmine Crockett as the newer, fresher AOC out there suggesting that Republicans are racist. 1.00

00:52:39.000 Like, is this what makes you feel good about your life?

00:52:42.000 Truly, does this make your life better in any way?

00:52:44.000 If you're a Democrat, does this make your life better in any way?

00:52:48.000 I talk to black folk all the time as somebody that's a child of a preacher. 0.78

00:52:52.000 Listen, most black people are not Republicans simply because we just is like, y'all racist. 0.97

00:52:57.000 I can't hang out with the KKK and them. 0.77

00:52:59.000 That's really what it is.

00:53:00.000 But when we think about who we are as black people and we think about where we come from, most black people have very conservative values, right?

00:53:09.000 But the reality is that like, we just can't side with like the neo-Nazis and them.

00:53:14.000 We like, we're not, we're not dealing with y'all like that, right?

00:53:19.000 So again, is this making anybody's life better?

00:53:22.000 Al Sharpton, who's been a grifter his entire career, is sitting two seats down, grinning at all of this.

00:53:26.000 Has anybody's life been made better? 0.95

00:53:27.000 Particularly black Americans.

00:53:28.000 Are they made better by this sort of rhetoric? 0.92

00:53:31.000 Are women made better by the insanity of people like Ella M. Hoff promoting climate anxiety? 0.99

00:53:37.000 When did we decide that we don't need to make people's lives better by actually demanding that they do the things that make you healthy and happy?

00:53:43.000 That is the part that's insane.

00:53:44.000 We would rather just pose.

00:53:46.000 And we'd also promote false history in order, presumably, to somehow make that pose, what, more serious?

00:53:54.000 So Julian Michaels, who has become somewhat conservative, she was a host With the Bill Maher podcast network for a bit.

00:54:03.000 She was on CNN yesterday, and she was ripped up and down by the left for making what is a clearly and obviously true point, which is that slavery is not unique to America.

00:54:10.000 Again, one of the aspects of the left in America is this belief that America is uniquely evil, that we live in a uniquely terrible time, capitalism is bad, and all the rest.

00:54:19.000 Well, Jillian Michaels was, somehow, slavery came up, and she made the perfectly obvious point, which is that white people are not responsible for all slavery on planet Earth.

00:54:27.000 And in fact, white people basically solved slavery on planet Earth as much as it could be solved. 0.82

00:54:32.000 It was white Christian countries that did away with slavery and fought it literally everywhere.

00:54:37.000 Slavery was legal in Arab countries up until the late 20th century.

00:54:41.000 It is still practiced in many Arab countries today.

00:54:43.000 It is still practiced in parts of Africa today.

00:54:46.000 And here's Jillian Michaels making some of these points.

00:54:48.000 She got ripped up online for this.

00:54:51.000 So we're now literally reviewing parts of American history and parts of American culture to make sure it comports with Dear Leader and what the MAGA community does.

00:54:59.000 Some of those things that are because have you looked at some of the things that slavery?

00:55:04.000 Yeah, slavery was a bad thing that we should talk about.

00:55:05.000 Okay.

00:55:06.000 Like he forgets that.

00:55:07.000 He's not whitewashing slavery.

00:55:08.000 So he's not.

00:55:09.000 No, okay.

00:55:09.000 He's not.

00:55:10.000 He's not.

00:55:11.000 And you cannot tie imperialism and racism and slavery to just one race, which is pretty much what every single exhibit does.

00:55:20.000 But let's talk about the fact that when you Slavery in America was only less than 2% of white Americans own slaves.

00:55:28.000 But it was a system of white democracy.

00:55:30.000 Do you know how slavery is thousands of years old?

00:55:33.000 You know who's not.

00:55:33.000 And we're the first race to try to end slavery.

00:55:36.000 Well, what's coming?

00:55:38.000 I'm very surprised that you're not going to be able to get it.

00:55:39.000 So you're trying to exercise in historical Russianism.

00:55:41.000 I'm really surprised.

00:55:43.000 Do you realize, Jillian, I'm surprised that you're trying to litigate who was the beneficiary of slavery?

00:55:49.000 I'm not.

00:55:50.000 What I'm trying to tell you in the context of American history, in the context of American history, what are you saying is incorrect by slavery? 0.95

00:55:57.000 What am I saying that you can't white people oppressing every single thing is like, oh, no, no, no, this is all because white people bad. 0.66

00:56:05.000 And that's just not the truth. 0.85

00:56:10.000 Okay, what she is saying there happens to be the case.

00:56:13.000 Okay, that is true. 0.96

00:56:14.000 Yes, white slavery, you know, white people holding slaves in America was evil and wrong. 0.68

00:56:19.000 It was also white people in America who abolished slavery in America and expended hundreds of thousands of lives in doing so. 0.56

00:56:27.000 It was white Americans at the founding who actually were precursors to the British Empire getting rid of slavery.

00:56:34.000 Again, this sort of running down of America is emblematic of a broader attempt to treat America as something uniquely bad.

00:56:41.000 The situation in which we find ourselves is the product of something uniquely evil. 0.98

00:56:44.000 And it's depressing and ridiculous and it makes people insane. 0.74

00:56:47.000 And meanwhile, in actual news, the president of the United States is up in Alaska. 0.96

00:56:52.000 He is set to have a meeting with Vladimir Putin today.

00:56:55.000 He has brought basically his entire team.

00:56:58.000 Well, the Russians showed up as well.

00:57:01.000 And they decided to lead off with a pretty audacious statement because Sergei Lavrov, the foreign minister of Russia, arrived at this event wearing a USSR t-shirt.

00:57:11.000 It's a CCCP shirt, which is USSR in Russian.

00:57:16.000 That is a hell of a take here by Sergei Lavrov.

00:57:19.000 Now, remember, when Vladimir Zelensky showed up to the White House wearing military fatigues, this was the end of the world.

00:57:26.000 I mean, we should have something to say about Sergey Lavrov, the foreign minister showing up in a CCCP shirt.

00:57:30.000 Here he is walking in.

00:57:37.000 Please tell me, please.

00:57:38.000 First?

00:57:39.000 Do you like it?

00:57:41.000 I mean, that is a clearly coordinated move, right?

00:57:43.000 I mean, he's not doing that by accident.

00:57:44.000 I don't think that Sergei Lavrov just walks around in USSR shirts randomly.

00:57:49.000 So what exactly is to be gained from these talks?

00:57:53.000 Well, apparently, according to Caroline Lovitt over at the White House, President Trump wants to look Vladimir Putin in the eye and try to figure out exactly what it is that he wants.

00:58:02.000 What comes after that meeting is up to President Trump, and that's part of the reason he is going.

00:58:07.000 He has incredible instincts and he wants to sit down and look the Russian president in the eye and see what progress can be made to move the ball forward to end this brutal war and to restore peace.

00:58:20.000 Now, again, the goal for Vladimir Putin here is to presumably stall because he believes that the longer he stalls, the more a chance that the West falls out of this war.

00:58:29.000 He also would love some sort of territory, major territorial concession pushed by the United States on Ukraine without any significant security guarantees for Ukraine, which is going to be undoable.

00:58:38.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, face-to-face talks between President Trump and Vladimir Putin on Friday will give the Russian president a chance to pitch his conditions for peace, chief among them for Ukraine to hand over swaths of its territory.

00:58:49.000 Putin has long coveted the south and east of Ukraine, which his army has failed to fully occupy.

00:58:54.000 President Trump has said he would seek to negotiate a swap that would return some of the territory Russia occupies back to Ukraine without offering further details.

00:59:01.000 The Kremlin has declared five occupied regions to be part of Russia.

00:59:04.000 That'd be Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhia, Kherson, and Crimea.

00:59:08.000 Of those regions, Russia currently fully occupies Crimea, almost all of Luhansk, and much of the other three.

00:59:15.000 What he would like is a bunch of territory he has not yet won, including Zaporizhia, a remaining section of Donetsk, and part of Kherson.

00:59:23.000 Kherson is about 70% occupied.

00:59:25.000 He wants the other 30%.

00:59:26.000 Zaporizhia, he wants another 27%.

00:59:28.000 And Donetsk, he wants another 24% or so.

00:59:32.000 Donetsk is his top target, but his military is having a tough time taking the risk of Donetsk.

00:59:39.000 Now, one of the reasons why Ukraine is hesitant to give up a lot of this territory, aside from the fact that this is a foreign invasion of their sovereign nation, is the fact that much of this area is mineral and oil rich.

00:59:50.000 And so one of the reasons that Putin wants to grab it and hold on to it is because he believes he is taking away a lot of the economic base of Ukraine in grabbing and holding this territory.

00:59:59.000 Apparently, President Trump and Putin are set to hold a joint press conference after the summit.

01:00:05.000 The summit is to be held at the joint base of Elmendorf Richardson in Anchorage.

01:00:09.000 President Trump thinks that Putin is going to make a deal, according to Fox News Radio, but he says there's a 25% chance talks will fail, describing the summit as a chess game.

01:00:17.000 And if the meeting went well, President Trump raised the possibility of inviting Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky for further negotiations.

01:00:24.000 He said that the first meeting will be setting the table.

01:00:26.000 He would like to have a trilateral meeting.

01:00:28.000 He said it would be certainly convenient if we had a very good meeting because I'm going to let them negotiate their deal.

01:00:32.000 I'm not going to negotiate their deal for them.

01:00:34.000 But of course, the goal of Putin is to get Trump to do that.

01:00:37.000 And Putin thinks he's going to be able to sort of leverage President Trump into doing that.

01:00:42.000 Very high-stakes stuff here.

01:00:43.000 Caroline Lovett at the White House.

01:00:45.000 She says no foreign policy expert has solved a foreign policy conflict, which happens to be the truth of recent vintage.

01:00:52.000 You're being very kind, and I won't be so kind.

01:00:54.000 And I'll just name some of those people, such as John Bolton, who I think has made a disgrace of himself on television and in the newspapers, claiming that he knows better than President Trump.

01:01:04.000 No, he doesn't.

01:01:05.000 And neither do any of these so-called foreign policy experts who have never solved a foreign policy conflict in their lives.

01:01:12.000 Look at what this president has done in six months.

01:01:15.000 He has stopped seven global conflicts all around the world using the leverage of the United States of America to negotiate these conflicts to an end.

01:01:25.000 You had the leaders of Azerbaijan and Armenia at the White House last week, both of whom said this would not have been possible without the leadership of President Trump and his administration.

01:01:36.000 So the American people trust this president.

01:01:39.000 That's why they overwhelmingly re-elected him. 0.95

01:01:41.000 And I think it's pathetic, some of the chatter that we see from these so-called experts who have zero accomplishments on their own resumes to point to.

01:01:51.000 Okay, so we will find out whether President Trump is able to negotiate anything of substance at this meeting or whether it just ends up being a platform for Vladimir Putin or whether the conflict just sort of continues apace.

01:02:03.000 Now, meanwhile, yesterday, there was some negative inflation news for the president of the United States.

01:02:08.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, wholesale prices, that would be the cost of goods and services purchased directly from producers, rose at the sharpest monthly rate in three years, raising fresh alarm that tariffs are taking root in the economy and pushing up inflation.

01:02:18.000 So far, retailers have been eating that cost, and they're not passing it on to consumers quite as of yet, presumably in the hopes that those wholesale prices will go down at some point in the near future.

01:02:29.000 Or it's possible that demand is already falling off and they don't have the ability to raise prices on consumers and have to eat that cost, which then presumably would result in a business slowdown.

01:02:38.000 The data complicates the picture for an anticipated interest rate cut over at the Federal Reserve's next meeting in September, nudging the central bank's inflation gauge in the wrong direction.

01:02:46.000 Prices charged by U.S. manufacturers and service providers rose by 0.9% month over month in July, according to the Bureau of Labor statistics.

01:02:54.000 The increase spanned prices of wholesale goods from food attires.

01:02:57.000 Those jumped by 0.7% from a month earlier.

01:02:59.000 The price of business to business services were up 1.1% in July versus June.

01:03:05.000 So it'll be interesting to see how, again, the tariffs play through the economy.

01:03:08.000 I've been saying we need to wait.

01:03:09.000 We don't actually know yet what is going to happen, but I do not believe that conventional economics on tariffs, which is that prices, at least in the moment, are going to spike and then come down again probably as demand drops off.

01:03:19.000 It would be shocking if that were wrong in some way here.

01:03:22.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, the producer price data gets worse the closer you look.

01:03:27.000 Goods and services both experience substantial inflation.

01:03:30.000 Goods and services related to business investment in particular are becoming pricier, with the cost of manufacturing equipment rising 0.4% in one month and related services 4.5%.

01:03:39.000 Prices for intermediate goods like components and raw materials are also on the rise.

01:03:43.000 This isn't showing up in consumer prices so far because many companies entered the Trump tariff year with large cash reserves or wider margins so they can absorb these costs for the time being, but they can't do this forever.

01:03:52.000 Meanwhile, cash loss to paying tariffs or paying tariff-induced higher prices is not available for reinvestment in the business or to return to shareholders.

01:04:01.000 So again, if the tariffs continue to push up the prices, if that results in no interest rate drop, if it means mortgages stay where they are, that is going to be a problem for President Trump.

01:04:11.000 Again, I think that it's too early for President Trump to change courses, presumably, but I also assume that his team, including Scott Besson, they have their eye on these economic data and are going to make a move if things move in the wrong direction.

01:04:24.000 All righty, folks, as the show continues, we'll get into the latest in the Gaza Strip.

01:04:29.000 We'll also get to the United States discussing taking a stake in Intel.

01:04:32.000 Not a fan of this corporatism in which the federal government is now picking and choosing winners and losers and taking stakes in private companies.

01:04:39.000 Not a big fan at all.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - August 15, 2025

Newsom’s REVENGE Redistricting…PLUS The Sandwich-Throwing Resistance!

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