In the wake of the shooting at a Christian school in Wisconsin, new details are emerging about the suspect in the case. She had a troubled home life, according to court records, and her parents divorced and remarried multiple times.
00:00:37.000The Madison Police Chief Sean Barnes said at a Tuesday news conference there are always signs of a school shooting before it occurred.
00:00:43.000This teen is just one of nine female school shooters in the last 25 years, according to a database maintained by the Washington Post.
00:00:49.000She's also among the younger recent suspects in a crime like this.
00:00:55.000The parents did not respond to repeated requests for comment.
00:00:59.000Her father, the suspect's father, is a Christian who often shared pictures of his dogs and his daughter according to a review of his Facebook profile.
00:01:06.000The Washington Post confirmed the account as her father's by verifying its authenticity with the person who attended the school with him and by comparing the page's contents to public records.
00:01:15.000But there's one post from August that has attracted more scrutiny than others, in that a photo appears to show the suspect wielding a gun and taking aim at a firing range.
00:01:23.000So obviously this means that the left is going to focus in on gun control as the chief issue here.
00:01:29.000But it seems to me that there is a bigger issue here, and that is family turmoil.
00:01:34.000I know these are the issues that we are not supposed to discuss in American life.
00:01:37.000We are supposed to believe in these sort of libertarian social ethos that says that when parents have a child and they break up for their own well-being and for the preservation of their own happiness, that this has no impact on children whatsoever.
00:01:51.000And this has been a lie since it started to be told in the 1950s and 60s in the United States.
00:02:10.000However, according to the Washington Post's review of court records, the suspect's parents first married in 2011, about two years after she was born.
00:02:17.000By the way, this is always a bad predictor of exactly how long a marriage is going to last.
00:02:22.000Living together before marriage, all social science demonstrates, is a very, very bad idea because it shows that people were not willing to make the commitment before they had a child, before they got married.
00:02:35.000Marriage should be the predicate to sleeping together and then having children.
00:02:40.000I know these are old-fashioned ideas, but they existed for a reason.
00:02:42.000And I think that what we are now experiencing in the West is a new understanding that maybe the old ideas, those things that we didn't understand and so we just uprooted them, many of those things were there for a reason.
00:02:53.000Many of those social institutions existed the way they did for a reason.
00:02:56.000Maybe, for example, the focus on not sleeping together until you were married.
00:03:01.000That focus, which was a focus for all of the West, and indeed most civilizations, for all of human history, maybe that was actually a smart idea because it channeled these sexual passions into family building.
00:03:12.000It meant that a man, for example, had to give up his wayward ways and make a commitment to a woman before getting one of the things that he wanted out of the relationship with the woman.
00:03:22.000And it meant that a woman would have to be pretty discriminating about just who she chose to have sex with because it might result in a child.
00:03:30.000Again, that was not an evil of the system.
00:03:42.000All of that has not exactly been a boon to the West as a general matter.
00:03:46.000Despite all of the left's promises that a libertarian sexual ethos would make everybody happier, there's literally zero evidence that this is the case.
00:03:55.000The general happiness surveys across the West have been showing a radical decline since the 1970s, particularly among women who are supposed to be the people most liberated by the new sexual ethos.
00:04:06.000In this particular case, the mother of the shooter had been previously married and divorced.
00:04:10.000She had another daughter with a different man to whom she was never married.
00:04:14.000Court records indicate that this girl had other permanent legal guardians.
00:04:20.000So the suspect's parents divorced for the first time in 2014, agreeing to joint legal custody of their shared daughter, but specifying she would live primarily with her mom.
00:04:29.000The couple then remarried in 2017 and then divorced again in 2020, again agreeing to share custody.
00:04:35.000But this time, the shooter's time was spent more evenly between them.
00:04:39.000She would spend two days with dad and two with mom and then three more with dad before reversing the schedule the following week.
00:04:58.000After seeking mediation to determine custody of the suspect, they agreed in July 2022 they would share legal custody, but that the girl would now mostly live with her father.
00:05:06.000By this time, unsurprisingly, the suspect had been enrolled in therapy, which was supposed to help guide decisions about which parents should spend weekends with, according to records.
00:05:16.000The custody papers show that the parents were on cordial terms.
00:05:19.000The parents report a generally positive co-parenting relationship and will continue to communicate with one another by text messages and phone conversations.
00:05:53.000And I know this is a strange idea to so many people who are living in the postmodern West.
00:06:00.000But again, the reality of the world is that marriage was built on commitment.
00:06:04.000Marriage itself is an institution that requires fealty to the institution, not merely to the other person who is part of the institution.
00:06:11.000This bizarre notion that marriage was supposed to be about sort of the formalization of romantic love, as opposed to a shared value system that was capable of building the next generation?
00:06:24.000And it has been a mistake for the West to embrace that idea.
00:06:27.000It doesn't mean romance isn't a part of marriage.
00:06:28.000Of course, romance is an enormous part of marriage.
00:06:32.000But it is not the chiefly important part of marriage.
00:06:34.000When children become secondary as opposed to the primary purpose, not only is marriage defeated, the children are defeated.
00:06:42.000Again, I don't know when this idea took hold in the West.
00:06:47.000It started to take hold probably during the Romantic period in the 19th century.
00:06:50.000But it turns out that human biology sort of thwarted the plans of romantic love to overcome the institution of marriage.
00:06:55.000The institution, like all institutions built by civilization, were built by human beings in order to channel human passions.
00:07:03.000And then they were made sacred by human beings or by nature's God in order, again, to civilize the passions of human beings.
00:07:11.000Human beings have all sorts of passions and we build entire civilizations in order to channel those passions in positive directions.
00:07:17.000Obviously, one of the most fervent passions that people have, the most important passions they have, is the passion for sexual relationships.
00:07:25.000It can also be incredibly destructive.
00:07:27.000This is why marriage is such an important institution.
00:07:30.000Channeling that institution toward the production and rearing of children as opposed to simply leaving little boys and girls all over the landscape without proper mothers and fathers in functioning households.
00:07:41.000By the way, treating women like trash in a sort of free love system, which is how women currently feel.
00:07:48.000They feel they are treated like trash by men.
00:07:51.000And many of the men who are looking at the system say, well, hold up, we're a consensual system, so what's the problem?
00:07:56.000The answer is that the consent that women are typically looking for is not merely sexual consent.
00:08:01.000It is a consent to a long-term relationship that is meaningful, spiritual, and purposeful.
00:08:07.000And when you have a society that lacks all of these things, what you end up with is tremendous human suffering, true human suffering.
00:08:15.000And so these sort of free divorce situations Easy living.
00:08:31.000Well, given the fact that they were living the way they lived, it certainly is not not their fault.
00:08:37.000If you treat your children like a bizarre form of chattel, shuttling them between parent and parent because you want to live your best life, guess what?
00:08:46.000Once you have kids, you are no longer first priority.
00:09:52.000This is what happens when, as a society, you decide that it is very important to disengage from the institutions of civilization that channel the passions and instead just humor those passions and let everything else be left by the wayside.
00:10:07.000These are the conversations that need to be had.
00:10:09.000And I think that these are the conversations that are, in fact, beginning to be had.
00:10:13.000I think the American people are ready for a conversation, a serious conversation about what the good life looks like.
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00:13:02.000He says, The stem family, LaPlay found, among the Jews, ancient Greeks, pre-imperial Romans, and most of the European peoples prior to the advent of the national state and its increasingly atomizing effect upon kindred, clan, and household.
00:13:25.000It was a type of family, LaPlay observed, that combined communality and opportunity for individual expression in a way that avoided the corporatism of the ancient patriarchal type of family on the one hand and the egoistic particularism of modernity on the other.
00:13:37.000So the stem family respected individuals within the family so long as they all...
00:13:45.000And that was different from sort of the ancient patriarchal family, where everybody just worked for the patriarch, or from the radical individualism of modernity.
00:13:53.000LaPlay thought revival of the family, for purposes of both mutual aid and individual enterprise in all spheres, the sovereign need of a Western Europe that was fast becoming straightjacketed by national centralization and bureaucracy.
00:14:03.000Every great age and every great people LaPlay discovered is characterized at bottom by the strength of the kinship principle.
00:14:09.000We can, he argued, use the family as an almost infallible touchstone of the material and cultural prosperity of a people.
00:14:14.000When the family is strong, closely linked with private property, treated as the essential context of education in society, and in sanctity recognized by law and custom, the probability is extremely high that we shall find the rest of the social order characterized by that subtle but puissant fusion of stability and individual mobility, which the probability is extremely high that we shall find the rest of the social order characterized
00:14:34.000I believe that by common assent, the Greeks, Jews, and Chinese are the three most creative peoples in history of whom we have substantial record, observing all of these people, especially during periods of their greatest creative fertility, the immense strength of the family tie.
00:14:46.000Family yet remains the greatest single element of a creative culture that is so far as social contexts are concerned.
00:14:51.000So what exactly does that family look like?
00:14:54.000As Nisbet says, let us have no nonsense about love and unremitting devotion, among the most evanescent and rare qualities surely in the total picture of the family that history reveals.
00:15:02.000For paradoxical as it may seem, it is not love, least of all sexual passion, that the family has been built around historically, but rather duty and obligation.
00:15:11.000These are words that have fallen out of favor.
00:15:14.000But liberty springs from duty and obligation because you know that if your family owes a duty to you and you owe duties to your family, then you are free to do so many things.
00:15:23.000You are free to fly because you know that you have a support system in your family.
00:15:28.000And you are purposeful because you have a duty to actually act on behalf of your family.
00:15:35.000And when those things are deprived of children, when those things go away, disaster occurs.
00:15:41.000Now again, people want to look at the sort of surface level arguments when it comes to terrible events like what happened in Wisconsin.
00:15:50.000Okay, the reality is in this particular case, the suspect used a handgun, not a long gun, and obtained the gun presumably illegally because she was 15. Gun laws ain't going to fix that.
00:16:01.000Some people are going to want to look at mental illness.
00:16:03.000Okay, well, maybe this is a mental illness problem, or maybe, in fact, this is something much deeper and much more problematic.
00:16:09.000And this is the most spectacular symptom of a far graver disease that has afflicted the body politic, and again, is responsible for a wide variety of symptoms, from low fertility rates to high divorce rates to lack of social mobility.
00:16:21.000It turns out that social mobility is very much attached to your ability generation on generation to make lives better within your family.
00:16:29.000My grandparents did better than my great grandparents.
00:16:31.000My parents did better than my grandparents.
00:16:32.000And my family is doing better than my parents.
00:16:34.000That is perfectly normal in the context of a stable familial situation.
00:16:39.000It is not normal in broken situations.
00:16:41.000Now, again, that is not a rip on people who have gotten divorced.
00:16:45.000This is not a rip on people who have made mistakes, had children out of wedlock.
00:16:50.000It is a recommendation that society must have a standard, uphold the standard, and forward that standard in order to have more of the thing.
00:16:57.000If you want more of a thing, you have to subsidize it.
00:16:59.000You have to talk about its importance.
00:17:05.000As an institution, it requires societal approval and support.
00:17:09.000And as those supports are removed, everything collapses.
00:17:12.000And that is what you're watching right now.
00:17:13.000Now, again, I think that we are in the middle of what could be a cultural renaissance.
00:17:17.000The reason I say that is because I think the American people are tired of all this.
00:17:20.000I think that the libertarian sexual ethos that has been basically the only promise kept by the Democrats in the 1960s.
00:17:27.000So the Democrats in the 1960s promised that a gigantic, overweening, bureaucratic, centralized government Sure, it was going to control huge elements of your life.
00:17:36.000Sure, it was going to cost oodles of money.
00:17:37.000Sure, it was going to completely rejigger the entire social relation between people and the government.
00:17:44.000But what you would get in compensation for all of those things, for economic stagnation, for higher crime rates, for worse poverty, what you were going to get in compensation for bigger government interventionism was that you'd be able to have sex with whomever you wanted without any sort of consequence.
00:18:00.000And it turns out that was a bad promise.
00:18:02.000It was true you could do that, but it turns out that is not what human beings are built for.
00:18:17.000To be with their family, in their home, to raise their children so that their children will have healthy children.
00:18:23.000To be able to build familial wealth over the course of generations.
00:18:26.000To be able to sit on the porch when you're 80 years old with your grandkids playing in the yard, knowing that you've lived a good, dutiful, purposeful life and that you will continue to give a contribution to future generations.
00:18:38.000That is the thing that people actually, actually want.
00:19:16.000People are done with left-wing social policy, which suggests that the key element of being a human being is how you feel about your own gender, sexuality, or who you want to screw.
00:19:25.000And they certainly don't want that taught to their kids.
00:19:29.000All the arguments that are currently being had about kids will be had about adults and they should be had about adults because many of the arguments that are had with regard to, say, transgendering the children Those are arguments really not just about what children should be forced to undergo by their parents or by perverse doctors.
00:19:50.000The real underlying argument to all this is that transgender medicine, for example, is wrong and bad for human beings.
00:19:57.000And even for adults who have gender dysphoria, this is not a solution to their problems.
00:20:01.000And again, consent is not the end of the story.
00:20:04.000If I consent to have my arm cut off, that does not mean that a doctor should cut my arm off.
00:20:08.000And if someone consents to have their penis cut off, that should not be a consent that actually measures.
00:20:15.000And the attempt to sort of relegate that conversation to the kids is an easy political win.
00:20:19.000But that's not the real conversation that needs to be had.
00:20:22.000The real conversation that needs to be had in a lot of these social spheres is what we think is good more generally.
00:20:27.000Again, that's not that's going to differ across the country.
00:20:29.000That doesn't mean the federal government ought to be involved in everything.
00:20:32.000In a very diverse country with a lot of different viewpoints, presumably California is going to be ruled and reigned differently than Florida or Alabama or Mississippi or even New York.
00:20:42.000However, there is a wind of change that is blowing.
00:20:45.000According to the New York Times, Pixar, a division of Walt Disney Studios, removed a transgender storyline from its animated series Win or Lose, which is set to start streaming in February.
00:20:53.000The series follows a middle school co-ed softball team in the week leading up to the championship game.
00:20:57.000Each episode is told from the perspective of a different character.
00:20:59.000The character will remain in the show, Disney said, but a few lines of dialogue focused on her gender, a plot point that appeared near the end of the eight-episode series, have been edited out.
00:21:07.000Disney put out a statement, quote, When it comes to animated content for a younger audience, we recognize that many parents would prefer to discuss certain subjects with their children on their own terms and timelines.
00:21:19.000As we know from Chris Rufo's excellent reporting, Disney itself, the highest levels of the animation studio particularly, have been very much involved in mainlining a bunch of LGBTQ plus minus divided by sign ideology into kids programming.
00:21:33.000Because it is in fact a recruitment mechanism for an ideology.
00:21:37.000And now, Disney is realizing that that is a loser.
00:21:40.000Parents don't want their kids taught this stuff.
00:21:43.000Parents do not want their kids taught this stuff.
00:21:45.000But I think this is part of a broader cultural revelation that maybe, maybe, a system of thought that puts your own sexual desire at the center of your being as the only thing that matters.
00:21:55.000I'm not even talking about sexual orientation here.
00:21:58.000I'm just saying that anything that suggests that the sexual passions are the chief motivation in life that matters.
00:22:04.000And satisfying those feelings should be the purpose of your life is insufficient to build a civilization and is bad for the community at large.
00:22:12.000And by the way, is largely bad for individuals as well.
00:22:16.000That, I think, is coming to fruition right now.
00:22:18.000And I think you're seeing that in Disney backing off of all of this.
00:22:21.000Because Disney is beginning to realize that the American people are not in favor of this sort of radicalism.
00:22:26.000That the bargain that the left has been trying to draw since the 1960s, that substitutes individual sexual libertarianism in favor of a family ethos, has been a failure.
00:22:43.000The radical left does not understand the profound unshakable bond between the Christian and Jewish communities in the United States.
00:22:48.000While the secular left pushes their anti-religious agenda, Christians and Jews have stood together defending our shared values and religious liberties.
00:22:55.000That's why I'm proud to partner with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.
00:22:58.000For over 40 years, they've been doing something remarkable, building bridges between our communities through faith, shared values, and mutual respect.
00:23:04.000And the fellowship doesn't just talk, they act.
00:23:06.000Right now, they're on the ground providing real help to vulnerable Jewish families and elderly around the globe.
00:23:10.000We're talking about food, medical care, emergency assistance, and security to people who need it most.
00:23:14.000I can tell you, this organization represents exactly what makes our alliance so powerful.
00:23:18.000It's about Christians and Jews coming together to do what our faith's command, helping those in need.
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00:23:56.000This is where pre-born ministries comes in.
00:23:58.000When Valeria found out she was pregnant, she was beyond terrified.
00:24:01.000She'd often dreamt of being a young mom, but as a Christian and single, she now felt overwhelmed by shame and was seriously considering abortion.
00:24:06.000Valeria began the search for an abortion.
00:24:08.000It was upon that search, she called a nurse at a pre-born at Network Clinic who walked her through her options, including the true reality of ending a baby's life with the abortion pill.
00:24:15.000When she heard that, She knew she couldn't end her child's life.
00:24:47.000Now, over in Canada, Pierre Polyev, who is going to be the Prime Minister of Canada, he's a tremendous politician, member of the Conservative Party in Canada.
00:24:57.000As we discussed yesterday on the program, the reality is that when it comes to Canada, Justin Trudeau is in almost the single digits in terms of approval rating.
00:25:08.000The only question is whether that is going to trigger a new election.
00:25:11.000Poliev, if the election were held today, would easily be prime minister, probably with the largest conservative majority of any Western country right now.
00:25:46.000And in fact, those two dreams are in direct opposition to one another.
00:25:49.000And that is not an argument for government regulation of personal sexual relationships, for example.
00:25:54.000Maybe it is on a local level, but it is certainly not on a sort of broad level.
00:25:58.000But as a matter of morality and societal directionality, The direction needs to be directed toward family and away from radical sexual individualism as the ethos.
00:26:53.000That if you worked hard, you got a good life.
00:26:57.000Now, it wasn't fancy or extravagant, but you got a house with a yard where you could have kids playing safely, and you could have a nice dog that you could afford to feed along with the kids, and your kids could play safely in the streets.
00:27:56.000All you have to do is encourage them to act in a socially responsible fashion, to actually build families.
00:28:02.000And all this sort of bizarre anti-woman hatred that you see from a reactionary right online sometimes that says, well, you know, what do you owe to women?
00:28:10.000The answer that men owe to women is you owe it to them to be good husbands and good fathers.
00:28:15.000And that is a direct response to the radical insanity of the radical left, which suggests what do women owe to men?
00:28:22.000They owe it to men to be good wives and good mothers.
00:29:00.000What are the things in our society that matter and are meaningful?
00:29:03.000Well, it feels like for a long time, The answer is not much.
00:29:07.000For a long time in the United States, because we are very rich and we're very privileged, and because God blessed us with borders that are two oceans, Mexicans and Canadians, and an incredibly rich continent that provides all of our needs, that because of all of that, the duties can sort of be put off to the side.
00:29:24.000But the reality is the duties and the rights are two sides of the same exact coin.
00:29:29.000You have a right to go and earn because you are earning on behalf of your family.
00:29:35.000You have a right to go out and thrive, and in fact a duty to go out and thrive, because you're doing so on behalf of your family and your community and your civilization.
00:29:44.000All that has to be done, guarantee private property rights, forward the family, forward the community.
00:29:49.000These are not particularly difficult things to do.
00:29:54.000Well, because even if you suggest the sort of naive suggestion that many members of the left and the right actually want the same thing.
00:30:00.000They want the families with the dog and the house and the kids.
00:30:03.000I don't think that's true anymore, but let's assume that that's the baseline.
00:30:06.000The problem with left-wing solutions to this problem or interventionist government solutions to this problem, once the government starts to intervene, once the government starts to sign the checks, once the government starts to substitute for the actual function that family was supposed to perform, families wither and die.
00:30:21.000The intermediate social institutions provided by things like church that actually instilled community and rules and excellent social attributes on people, those go away.
00:30:33.000So to take a quick example, when it comes to the government and churches.
00:30:36.000So it used to be that if you had a problem in your life, so you lost your job, if you're a member of a church, then the church would help take care of you.
00:30:45.000This is still true, by the way, in a lot of religious communities.
00:31:13.000In the meantime, in order for that person to receive, they know they're receiving from people that they are neighbors with.
00:31:19.000And they don't feel amazing about that because it turns out that receiving charity is not, in fact, a wonderful thing for the person who's the recipient.
00:31:35.000Because you know that you're taking from somebody else and you don't want to be doing that.
00:31:39.000And so you feel you owe it back to the community to actually do the hard work, to go out and look for a job, for example, to live by the rules of the community.
00:31:45.000The duties and the entitlements are two sides of the same exact coin when it comes to, for example, a church or synagogue community that is thriving.
00:31:53.000When the government steps in and just starts signing checks, the entitlements remain, but the duties disappear.
00:31:58.000And so what you end up with is an entitled people.
00:32:03.000That's the story of the welfare state created in the United States since the 1960s.
00:32:07.000It is not a coincidence that the populations most likely to receive welfare are also the populations with the highest levels of family dysfunction and family breakup.
00:32:16.000Because again, the government is substituting itself for a functioning system that was not created particularly by man.
00:32:23.000It was an evolutionary system evolved and then instituted by God, if you're a religious person, in order to form a functional civilization.
00:32:33.000So Empoliev is talking about the dream.
00:32:37.000By families allowed to live free, to keep their property, to live without the heavy hand of government dictating every aspect of how they raise their children, thriving communities that are allowed to make moves together communally.
00:32:52.000And when the government starts to inject itself, bad things happen.
00:32:57.000By the way, this is true across the board.
00:32:59.000There's been a lot of debate, for example, in the United States over the healthcare system, right?
00:33:03.000How do you take care of the people who are unhealthy?
00:33:05.000So again, the old style for most of human history was your family took care of you, your community took care of you.
00:33:11.000When somebody got sick, if somebody didn't have the money, they'd go out and they'd go to their community members, and those community members would do their best to help out.
00:33:22.000The problem is government can't do the job.
00:33:24.000Government is not capable of doing that job.
00:33:26.000As Exhibit A, I present to you Canada.
00:33:29.000So Canada, which is something that the left in the United States, the Canadian healthcare system, which is effectively a national healthcare system like Great Britain, It's got some problems.
00:33:39.000"A Manitoba woman had her right leg amputated after complications following a knee replacement surgery two months earlier.
00:33:46.000Roseanne Milburn, 61, went ahead with the scheduled amputation last Friday after weeks of complications stemming from post-surgery infection.
00:33:53.000In late November, a surgeon at Winnipeg's Health Sciences Center began removing dead tissue from her right knee with the intention of stitching her up later that day after she was seen by an orthopedic surgeon at Concordia Hospital.
00:34:03.000She couldn't be transferred back to HSC because there wasn't a bed available for the specialist to finish the procedure.
00:34:08.000Instead, she spent eight days languishing at Concordia with a painful open wound.
00:34:13.000Once she finally got to HSC, Milburn went under the knife for another infection.
00:34:16.000Due to the long delay in stitching up the wound, she said her leg was not salvageable.
00:34:21.000Sherrod Health, the entity that oversees healthcare delivery in Manitoba, that'd be a government entity, said last week it was up to Milburn to choose a preferred treatment option.
00:34:28.000She stressed in interviews with CBC News, the other choice involving multiple surgeries and the chance her leg would still be amputated didn't make sense.
00:34:35.000So in other words, they opened up her leg because of the shortages in the healthcare system in Canada.
00:34:40.000She sat there for eight days without sewing it up and then they had to amputate her leg.
00:34:46.000Government also is not good at even the things that it promises to be good at.
00:34:50.000We need more evolved systems of human interaction.
00:34:58.000Marriage, church, community, the intermediate institutions of society that make it work.
00:35:04.000And I think it's about time for us to get back to all those things.
00:35:06.000And I think that's part of what's happening in the West.
00:35:08.000Those things are fragile, and once they're broken, it's very hard to put them back together.
00:35:11.000But they do have to be put back together.
00:35:13.000Alrighty, in just one moment, we'll get to Joe Biden heading for the exits.
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00:35:56.000Meanwhile, the American Democratic Party is searching for answers in the aftermath of a shellacking at the voting booth.
00:36:02.000Joe Biden is now heading for the exit.
00:36:04.000I mean, that's not a shock because, again, he's been absent for pretty much, what, since June, July?
00:36:15.000The fact that Democrats have left him in office knowing that he is full-scale senile is insane.
00:36:20.000And it's one of the reasons, by the way, why the American people don't trust the Democrats.
00:36:23.000Whenever Democrats say Donald Trump is telling the biggest lies, you guys are still telling the lie that Joe Biden is capable of being president.
00:36:29.000You're still telling that lie after you took him out of his own nomination.
00:36:34.000According to the New York Times, this is the twilight of Mr. Biden's presidency, the final days of the final chapter of an epic But it's hard to imagine that he seriously thought he could do the world's most stressful job for another four years.
00:37:00.000It's funny the New York Times will now say this.
00:37:02.000For a while, it was like, no, how dare you say this?
00:37:24.000He's a hero, according to the New York Times.
00:37:26.000Determined to finish on a high note and shape his legacy as a consequential president, Mr. Biden wants to sprint to the finish line in these final weeks, as his chief of staff, Jeff Zients, put it.
00:37:34.000He's checking a few last boxes on his presidential bucket list.
00:37:48.000The reason I mention this is because the Democratic Party is searching for a future and they don't appear to have much of one.
00:37:53.000Kamala Harris says she's still not going to go away, by the way.
00:37:56.000Kamala Harris, after losing to Donald Trump, after being handed the nomination by her party and a billion and a half dollars in campaign financing, she says she's not going away.
00:38:05.000She's still wandering the landscape babbling nonsensically.
00:38:08.000Here she was yesterday in Maryland babbling like a crazy person.
00:38:12.000The true test of our commitment Is whether in the face of an obstacle, do we throw up our hands?
00:39:06.000But the Democrats are still trying to figure out exactly which direction they go.
00:39:10.000So one of the big problems for the Democrats in the aftermath of the Joe Biden-Kamal Harris combined defeat, because remember, they were both candidates in this election cycle, which is insane.
00:39:20.000Or do they try to tack back to the center, recognizing that they've lost the trust of the American people so badly that Donald Trump won re-election in a historic comeback for the ages?
00:39:30.000Well, it appears that some of them would like to avoid tacking all the way to the left.
00:39:35.000According to Axios, House Democrats on Tuesday elected Representative Jerry Connolly of Virginia as the ranking member of the House Oversight Committee.
00:39:41.000According to multiple lawmakers familiar with the matter, Connolly is 74, and he defeated 35-year-old Representative Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, withstanding a generational revolt that saw several of Democrats' septuagenarian committee leaders pushed out of their roles.
00:39:54.000Ocasio-Cortez also lost a vote for the House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee on Monday.
00:40:02.000He had the backing of several veteran lawmakers, including former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, who stepped into the frame to basically say, I don't want anybody like AOC at the head of the Oversight Committee.
00:40:13.000The roll came open after current Oversight Ranking Member Jamie Raskin opted to run for the top Democratic spot on the Judiciary Committee.
00:40:20.000Now, I know they're trying to play Jamie Raskin as though Jamie Raskin is sort of a young gun inside the Democratic Party, but Jamie Raskin is 62 years old, so he is not one of the young guns inside the Democratic Party.
00:40:31.000So, the reality is that one of the things that the upper echelons of the Democratic Party are trying to avoid is a sort of McGovernite journey into the unknown.
00:40:42.000Progressives are absolutely beside themselves because they see AOC as the future leader.
00:40:45.000She, of course, is going to be old enough to run for president in the next election cycle.
00:40:52.000Here was Joy, again, the least joyful person ever to be named Joy, angry at the Democratic gerontocracy.
00:40:58.000What is about this gerontocracy seems like it's intractable.
00:41:02.000And I recall that when President Obama was elected, he kind of pushed aside the DNC and created his own organization because I think there's a frustration with the sort of creaky way the DNC operates.
00:41:12.000Jamie, God bless him, couldn't really change it.
00:41:15.000But it is run by donors and consultants and people who are locked into the old ways of doing things.
00:41:34.000Again, the battle for the Democratic left is very much alive.
00:41:37.000Dan Pfeiffer, an Obama boy, he says, valuing seniority over political and messaging chops is exactly how Democrats got into this mess in the first place.
00:41:45.000And so, again, the idea here is that they need to put in place a bunch of wild progressives.
00:41:51.000So that would include Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow's male doppelganger, who's ripping older Democrats for being unwilling to step aside.
00:42:00.000It feels like a moment of genuine madness.
00:42:04.000And look, no one wants to think about their own mortality.
00:42:10.000There are lots of people who live very long, active lives, well into their 80s, 90s even.
00:42:14.000John Paul Stevens lived years after he retired from the court at the age of 90. But as a general matter...
00:42:21.000This is a very risky undertaking for everyone.
00:42:24.000And Democrats are not taking this issue seriously, despite everything that's happened, but they need to.
00:42:33.000Again, the Democratic Party, this is going to be a massive internal battle, and it'll be fascinating to see how it plays out over the course of the next few years.
00:42:40.000Of course, it is going to be replete with intersectional arguments as well.
00:42:44.000Here is a former Kamala Harris consultant named Delencia Johnson on MSNBC talking about how the party must be led by young females of color.
00:42:53.000You know, it's also disappointing that the DNC, like the people that are running to lead the DNC are all white men.
00:42:58.000And the thing is, I think about what the voter who was ride or die for Kamala Harris looked like.
00:43:03.000It looked like the people at this table.
00:43:05.000It looked like AOC. Latinas voted with her.
00:43:21.000Listen, the party should be led, to your point, by young women of color, right?
00:43:25.000Because young women of color are the reasons that Democrats actually have some of these wins.
00:43:30.000And we know how to communicate in ways that reach that more moderate voter, but also that progressive voter, because we talk about the issues that people care about, the kitchen table issues that Democrats like to talk about.
00:43:41.000But we're able to talk about those issues in an intersectional way that reaches more people.
00:43:46.000Okay, if you're able to talk in an intersectional way, you're not able to talk about those issues.
00:43:55.000Meanwhile, it's not as though everything is hunky-dory on the other side of the aisle.
00:43:59.000Lot, a lot of passions being stirred by a debate over a bipartisan deal on Tuesday to keep the government funded through mid-March and provide more than $100 billion in relief to disaster victims and farmers, according to the Wall Street Journal.
00:44:10.000But a lot of House Republicans are rightly ticked off at what is just another pork bill.
00:44:15.000Now, let us be real about these sorts of pork bills.
00:44:18.000Yes, you can strip out some of the pork.
00:44:20.000When Donald Trump is president, you'll have a better opportunity to strip out some of the pork.
00:44:23.000It is also true that sort of this pork barrel rolling is sort of, if you vote for a billion bucks for my constituency, I'll vote for a billion bucks for your constituency.
00:44:32.000This is the way that things get done in a very closely divided Congress.
00:44:36.000The reality is that Republicans basically have no votes to spare.
00:44:39.000They drop two, three votes, and they ain't got a bill.
00:44:42.000And that's just a reality of the situation.
00:44:45.000The true systemic spending structure that needs to change is not going to be done by paring around the edges, by cutting a billion bucks here or a billion bucks there.
00:44:53.000Again, that's not to say that this bill should pass as currently stated.
00:44:56.000In the best of all possible worlds, I think that the vast majority of the spending would never occur.
00:45:00.000It also happens to be the case that that's not going to happen.
00:45:03.000And you know who I've noticed is not actually signing into chat to come out against this bill as of yet is President Trump.
00:45:09.000President Trump does not want a government shutdown on the table when he comes into office.
00:45:12.000He would prefer the government be at least funded through March, and then he can do his own deals with Republicans and try to use the power of his bully pulpit to get wavering Republicans to sign on to bills.
00:45:23.000According to The Wall Street Journal, the legislation was released just days ahead of Friday's deadline to avoid a partial government shutdown while keeping federal operations running for several months.
00:45:30.000The bipartisan proposal also includes a slew of other measures ranging from funding the rebuilding of Baltimore's collapse of Francis Scott Key Bridge to expanding the sale of ethanol to limiting some investments in China.
00:45:40.000The proposal would extend current government funding until March 14th, punting until the next Congress decisions on how much money to allocate to each federal agency for the remainder of the fiscal year.
00:45:49.000Now, again, there is a ton of pork in this thing.
00:45:52.000It is an almost 1,600-page package that no one is going to read, except for Vivek Ramaswamy, who says he's actually going to read the thing, go through it for pork, which is fantastic.
00:46:49.000We've been working around the clock to get the CR done.
00:46:52.000It was intended to be, and it was until recent days, a very simple, very clean CR, a stopgap funding measure to get us into next year when we have unified government under the Republican Party.
00:47:05.000But a couple of intervening things have occurred.
00:47:08.000We had, as we say, as we describe them, acts of God.
00:47:11.000We had these massive hurricanes, as you know, in the late fall.
00:47:14.000Helene and Milton and other disasters.
00:47:17.000We have to make sure that the Americans that were devastated by these hurricanes get the relief they need.
00:47:21.000So we are adding to this a disaster relief package, and that's critically important.
00:47:26.000Also important is the devastation that is being faced by our farming community.
00:47:32.000The agriculture sector has really struggled.
00:47:35.000They've had effectively three lost years, and commodity prices are a bit of a mess, and you've got input costs that are skyrocketed because of biodynamics.
00:47:46.000You put all those factors together, droughts and all the other conditions, and you have a lot of small family farms and ranches and people who supply the food for the country in dire straits right now.
00:47:55.000And so Congress recognizes that need, and so we've had to add a little bit to that as well.
00:48:00.000So what would have been a very skinny, very simple, clean CR has been added.
00:48:06.000These other pieces have been added to it and a couple of things that are related to all that.
00:48:12.000I agree with every critique of this bill.
00:48:14.000Also, the bill is going to have to pass because if you want the government funded, when Donald Trump comes into office, something's going to have to pass.
00:48:21.000And again, I think that there's a tendency in the commentariat to say, well, nothing should pass.
00:48:40.000We still have about a month until Donald Trump takes office.
00:48:43.000And that's when things are going to really start to change.
00:48:46.000Because right now, if Republicans just pass a bill with a Democratic Senate, remember, the Democrats still hold the Senate up until January and everybody gets sworn in.
00:48:54.000If that's the case, then just nothing will get done.
00:48:57.000And Democrats will be happy to hand a government shutdown to President Trump coming into office.
00:49:01.000That is the thing they would love most going into the holiday season.
00:49:04.000So again, there's some strategy that comes into play, and there's always a question of politics.
00:49:09.000Principle versus pragmatism is always the question of politics.
00:49:12.000Ignoring that, you can do that, you'll do it at your own peril, politically speaking.
00:49:16.000Joining me on the line is Professor Emeritus at Harvard Law School, Alan Dershowitz.
00:49:19.000Of course, you know Alan Dershowitz from a wide variety of endeavors, but right now he's building a dream team of top legal minds across the United States to defend Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former Defense Minister Joab Gallant against false charges and politically motivated arrest warrants issued by the International Criminal Court.
00:49:34.000He is also the author of a brand new book titled The Ten Big Anti-Israel Lies and How to Refute Them with Truth.
00:49:38.000A million copies have been printed and are going out to campuses across the country.
00:49:42.000Professor Dershowitz, great to talk to you.
00:49:55.000Going all the way back to Harvard Law School, 2007. So let's talk in a second about the ICC. I first want to ask you about the news that Judge Juan Merchan in New York is not going to be waiving the charges against President Trump, these specious, ridiculous hush money charges that are trumped up out of nothing.
00:50:11.000I mean, unprecedented finding in that case.
00:50:13.000Now, what does this mean constitutionally?
00:50:46.000Thomas Jefferson once said, for a criminal statute to be valid, it has to be so clear that a reasonable person should be able to understand it if he reads it while running.
00:50:58.000And I can't understand the case against Trump.
00:51:02.000It's an absurd case and Marshawn knows it.
00:51:05.000And so he's gaming the system by trying to prevent Trump from appealing.
00:51:09.000That's not going to work because Trump's lawyers can bring what's called a writ of mandamus to the appellate court saying, look, They're trying to circumvent your jurisdiction.
00:51:19.000You can't have a four-year conviction, a sort of Damocles, with pressure by the judge.
00:51:25.000You have a state court judge holding something over the President of the United States for four years, essentially saying, if you don't do what I want you to do, I will increase your sentence four years from now.
00:51:36.000That is unthinkable under the Constitution.
00:51:41.000So meanwhile, speaking of legal wrangling, the International Criminal Court, which is a ridiculous body that is basically staffed by a bunch of dictatorial nations as well as Europeans.
00:51:50.000I may repeat myself depending on who we're talking about here.
00:51:53.000The International Criminal Court has now issued arrest warrants against the Prime Minister of Israel as well as the former Defense Minister of Israel, Joab Gallant.
00:52:01.000On the predicate that they have supposedly contributed to genocide, you're putting together a legal dream team to go up against the ICC. So what are you attempting to do?
00:52:09.000Why even engage with the ICC in the first place?
00:52:12.000Well, I think you have to engage with the ICC because they have the power to make somebody's life miserable.
00:52:18.000My old friend can't go to Canada and visit Erwin Kotler in Montreal because the Canadian government will arrest him.
00:52:26.000The Australian government will arrest him.
00:52:31.000Just remember who the ICC did not indict.
00:52:34.000As with digging up graves showing the poison gas being used by Assad Assad is a free man in Russia.
00:52:43.000He has never been indicted by the ICC. Now, the ICC claims, well, Syria isn't subject to the court because it's not a signatory to the Rome Treaty.
00:52:55.000So they just make it up as they go along.
00:52:59.000There is no jurisprudence there in the ICC. And Ireland comes in and says, well, you know what we want you to do?
00:53:06.000We want you to expand the definition of genocide to cover Israel, even though Israel wasn't covered when it allegedly engaged in the act.
00:53:14.000We want you to redefine genocide, apply it retroactively to Israel.
00:53:19.000So I've put together this great team, two former attorney generals in the United States, a former solicitor general, a Democrat, bipartisan, Lawyers, professors, great litigators, and we're going to be filing briefs against the ICC. Now, Israel hasn't decided quite how to deal with this.
00:53:39.000Will they recognize the jurisdiction of the court?
00:53:41.000We don't have that problem because we're just outsiders.
00:53:44.000We don't have to recognize anybody's jurisdiction.
00:53:46.000We can just show how absurd The court's arrest warrants are and why they have to be withdrawn.
00:53:54.000But, you know, they won't withdraw them.
00:53:56.000And Galant and Nachaneu will not be able to travel the world.
00:54:03.000You know, Professor Dershowitz, on sort of a broader level, one of the phenomena I think that we're seeing internationally is as voters decide that they don't like particular sides of the aisle, the amount of lawfare that's now being unleashed in a wide variety of countries and internationally is absolutely astonishing and it's breaking the systems.
00:54:18.000That's It's true in the United States, where lawfare was unleashed against President Trump in order to stop him from becoming president again and is still being unleashed against him.
00:54:25.000It's true in Israel, where lawfare has been unleashed against Prime Minister Netanyahu in a sort of bizarre attempt to get him to abdicate his office.
00:54:32.000You've seen lawfare used everywhere from South America to Europe to Korea.
00:54:37.000The attempt to sort of avoid the consequences of elections by unleashing a quote-unquote independent attorney general or some other form of lawfare against leadership, this is now seeming to become almost de rigueur in a wide variety of countries.
00:54:52.000You know, I devised the term lawfare in the 1970s I used it in the context of guerrilla lawfare used by people like Abbie Hoffman back in the 1970s.
00:55:18.000Justice Jackson, great Robert Jackson said, Once wrote, he was the prosecutor at Nuremberg, that there are so many laws in the book that any prosecutor could find many, many felonies against any political figure they wanted.
00:55:32.000And the question is who they choose to go after.
00:55:35.000A friend of mine, Harvey Silvergate, wrote a book called Three Felonies a Day.
00:55:39.000Citing the Soviet Union, everybody commits three felonies a day and the Soviet Union just picks and chooses.
00:55:45.000So lawfare is terribly, terribly dangerous.
00:55:48.000I met with President Trump the other day, President-elect Trump, and we talked about lawfare and I told him I'm available to consult with him and with anybody in his administration on doing away with lawfare.
00:56:01.000It's a primary issue that we have to see the end of because With Lawfare, we can't trust the American judicial system.
00:56:10.000The polls show that Americans don't trust the American judicial system, and for good reason, because Lawfare has come to dominate the political aspects of using the law against people on selective partisan political basis.
00:56:28.000Well, Professor Dershowitz, I really appreciate the time.