The Ben Shapiro Show - May 28, 2020


Not Every Terrible Thing Is A Racist Thing | Ep. 1020


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 2 minutes

Words per Minute

212.84952

Word Count

13,296

Sentence Count

946

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

Minneapolis explodes after an incident of police brutality ends in death, Twitter mobs search for new targets in their quest to stamp out racism, and President Trump vows an executive order to curb social media. Today's show is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Protect yourself at Express VPN. Your online activity should not be public, but you can still protect yourself by using Express VPN to protect yourself online. Ben Shapiro's latest book, "The Dark Side of America" is available for pre-order now. It's also available for purchase in Kindle, iBook, Paperback, Hardcover, and Audio Book format. If you don't have a Kindle device, you can get a free eReader app from Amazon so you can read my book on any laptop, desktop, smartphone, or tablet device. You can also get my second book "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Facist" which is out now, which is also available in Kindle $9,99, and paperback $99.99. I'm giving away a copy of the book for free on Audible or Audible for Audible memberships starting on May 31st! Want to sponsor the show? Don't miss it! It'll help keep me up to date with the latest breaking news and provide the most impactful episodes of the show I can get on your favorite streaming platform? Subscribe to my channel! Subscribe today using the RSS, iTunes, and leave a review on Apple Podcasts, and I'll send you a review! Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about your ad choices and other ways to help support the show. The opinions stated here are those who listen to the show are my work. I'm looking for a chance to become a supporter! I'll be looking out for your ad-free version of The Ben Shapiro Show! Thank you! -Ben Shapiro's new book is out next week: The Dark Side Of America is out on Tuesday, May 15th, 2020. - Subscribe to Ben Shapiro s "The Best of Ben Shapiro Podcasts by clicking here and other links in the show will be featured on the show on the next episode of The Daily Mail, The Daily Beast, The Huffington Post, The Root, The Independent, The Hill, The New York Times, and Hustler, The Financial Times, The Telegraph, and The Financial Post, and so much more! Ben s next episode will be out soon!


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00:00:00.000 Minnesota explodes after an incident of police brutality ends in death.
00:00:04.000 Twitter mobs search for new targets in their quest to stamp out racism.
00:00:07.000 And President Trump vows an executive order to curb Twitter.
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00:00:25.000 We'll get to all of the latest breaking news in just a moment, including the burning of Minneapolis.
00:00:29.000 Minneapolis is on fire last night and this morning.
00:00:32.000 We'll talk about that momentarily.
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00:01:53.000 Okay, so obviously the big story of the day is the looting and burning in Minnesota and that follows hard on what is another video of an awful incident involving the police.
00:02:05.000 And I think that, once more, it is important to recognize that everyone should be on the same side of this.
00:02:11.000 Really, everyone should be on the same side of this.
00:02:13.000 What we have seen here, and yet we are not, what we have seen here is a police officer kneeling on the neck of a black man for four straight minutes while he's being told by people, including the guy who was underneath his knee, that he cannot breathe.
00:02:25.000 Okay, it's really, really ugly, and it's really, really bad.
00:02:28.000 What is not clear is whether it is really, really racial.
00:02:31.000 Now, the implication by the media is always that it is race-driven, because whenever there's a white officer doing something bad to a black suspect, the implication is that it is race-driven.
00:02:39.000 But here's the reality.
00:02:40.000 Police officers, generally, do a very good job.
00:02:43.000 There are some police officers who are terrible at their jobs and jackasses and treat everybody horribly.
00:02:48.000 We have not yet seen evidence that this police officer is a racist, as we will see.
00:02:52.000 People were trying to manufacture evidence of that yesterday, but this thing has been handled the way it's supposed to be handled.
00:02:57.000 These officers probably will end up standing trial.
00:03:00.000 We don't yet have a medical examiner's report, so this is part of the problem when you're going to put somebody on trial for, say, negligent homicide, for manslaughter, or for Murder or for something like that, you actually have to determine cause of death.
00:03:11.000 So in the Eric Garner case in New York, to which this is being compared, in that particular case, Eric Garner didn't actually die of the quote unquote chokehold that he was put in.
00:03:19.000 He died because he had an underlying heart condition.
00:03:21.000 He died of a heart attack that was sort of attendant on Okay, so here's a little bit of the video.
00:03:25.000 I'll narrate the video for people who can't actually watch.
00:03:28.000 in a lot of the investigation.
00:03:29.000 It is not clear at this point that this person died because he had a knee on the back of his neck.
00:03:35.000 At the very least, the officer should go to jail for assault, you would assume, because this is not within the purview of employment.
00:03:41.000 You don't get just to, it's police brutality, obviously.
00:03:44.000 Okay, so here's a little bit of the video.
00:03:46.000 I'll narrate the video for people who can't actually watch.
00:03:48.000 So the original story from the officers is that this man, whose name is George Floyd, they were called on the, they were called because he was engaging in some sort of forgery, He was forging checks or something in his car, and they showed up.
00:04:01.000 And the original narrative is that he had resisted arrest.
00:04:03.000 The tape doesn't appear to show him resisting arrest in any real way.
00:04:08.000 Here's a little bit of the tape.
00:04:10.000 So you can see that he is taken out of the car, a very large man, taken out of the car by this white officer.
00:04:16.000 He doesn't appear to be resisting arrest anywhere here.
00:04:19.000 And at a certain point, the officer, he kind of falls to the ground.
00:04:24.000 And I guess this is where you would, quote unquote, say that he's resisting.
00:04:27.000 But here the officer is kneeling on his neck and just putting his foot, putting his knee on his neck.
00:04:32.000 And he's saying he can't breathe.
00:04:33.000 The guy's saying he can't breathe.
00:04:34.000 And people around the officer are saying, you need to get up off the guy, he can't breathe.
00:04:37.000 I mean, it's just egregious.
00:04:38.000 It's egregious, egregious, egregious.
00:04:40.000 And he should be prosecuted, this officer, to the fullest extent of the law into which the evidence shows.
00:04:44.000 And by the way, everyone agrees with this.
00:04:46.000 Everyone agrees with this, right?
00:04:47.000 There is no dissent on this particular point.
00:04:50.000 From the Minneapolis mayor, to civil rights leaders, to President Trump, to the Minneapolis Police Department.
00:04:56.000 Everyone agrees.
00:04:57.000 All four officers who are present here.
00:04:59.000 The officer who did the kneeling, and the officers who are standing around him, all of them have been fired.
00:05:04.000 Like, immediately.
00:05:05.000 Not put on suspension, not put on leave, fired outright.
00:05:08.000 Which means, by the way, a prosecution is coming down the pike.
00:05:11.000 And other law enforcement officials are pointing out that this is insane.
00:05:15.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, Floyd's death in custody draws condemnation from law enforcement officials.
00:05:22.000 So according to law enforcement officials, the FBI, the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, they said they are investigating the incident.
00:05:28.000 President Trump tweeted late on Wednesday that he had asked the FBI and the Justice Department to expedite the investigation into Floyd's death.
00:05:34.000 He said, my heart goes out to George's family and friends.
00:05:36.000 Justice will be served.
00:05:38.000 President Trump himself came out.
00:05:39.000 He said, we're going to get a full report.
00:05:40.000 We're going to do a full investigation.
00:05:43.000 Here's President Trump yesterday talking about this.
00:05:48.000 We're going to get a report tomorrow when we get back.
00:05:49.000 A very sad event.
00:05:51.000 A very, very sad, sad event.
00:05:54.000 Should the police office be prosecuted, sir?
00:05:57.000 We're going to look at it, and we're going to get a report tomorrow when we get back.
00:06:01.000 And we're going to get a very full report, but a very sad day.
00:06:04.000 Okay, obviously, the president, does he look like he is celebrating racism in this particular clip?
00:06:10.000 The Minneapolis mayor, Jacob Frye, originally called for charges to be brought against the arresting officer.
00:06:15.000 He said that we should see some sort of prosecution in short order.
00:06:20.000 He'd like to see a prosecution in short order.
00:06:23.000 The head of the Minneapolis Police Union, Bob Kroll, stirred controversy when he wore a Cops for Trump t-shirt to a Trump rally in the city and sold them as a fundraiser after Frye said that the president wasn't welcome.
00:06:32.000 But that has really nothing to do with anything that has happened here.
00:06:36.000 Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo, who's president of an organization that represents police chiefs from America's largest cities, said it was unfathomable for an officer to put a knee into a handcuffed suspect's neck, as the video showed.
00:06:45.000 Acevedo said, I haven't heard anybody justify this.
00:06:48.000 The head of the Major City Chiefs Association said he couldn't recall such uniform condemnation of an officer's action by other police ever occurring in the past.
00:06:55.000 The arresting officer has been identified as one Derek Chauvin by his lawyer, Tom Kelly, who declined further comment.
00:07:01.000 Police are trained to pin down suspects by putting their knee on the shoulder blade, not the neck, unless deadly force is justified, according to Miami-Dade Police Chief Juan Perez.
00:07:09.000 The FBI has declined to comment so far.
00:07:12.000 To bring a federal civil rights case, the Justice Department has to reach a difficult standard of proof.
00:07:16.000 They have to show that the officer not only acted with excessive force, but also willfully violated someone's constitutional rights.
00:07:22.000 That's a big lift.
00:07:24.000 But local law enforcement, local law, does not necessarily have that lift.
00:07:29.000 So bottom line is this.
00:07:30.000 There is unanimity on this.
00:07:31.000 Right?
00:07:32.000 The mayor of Minneapolis is saying the officers should be charged.
00:07:32.000 Unanimity.
00:07:34.000 The officers have been laid off.
00:07:36.000 The DAs are going to investigate.
00:07:37.000 The FBI is going to investigate.
00:07:38.000 The DOJ is going to investigate.
00:07:39.000 Police chiefs all around the country are condemning this.
00:07:42.000 And the only sort of outstanding question right now is why exactly Floyd died, because the medical report is inconclusive at this point.
00:07:52.000 The medical report says that the cause and manner of death is currently pending further testing and investigation by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office, and that will clear up what exactly the charges should be here.
00:08:00.000 So this should be a situation where there is not actually a lot of controversy.
00:08:04.000 And yet controversy has arisen.
00:08:06.000 The reason there shouldn't be controversy is because we're all reacting the same way.
00:08:09.000 Except when it comes to the question of race.
00:08:10.000 And the question of race has become, obviously, the focal point here.
00:08:14.000 With people immediately jumping to, not only was the incident racist, not only is Derek Chauvin a racist, but also all of America is racist.
00:08:20.000 And you saw a lot of tweets like this yesterday.
00:08:22.000 All of America is doing this to black people.
00:08:24.000 This is where the conversation starts to break down pretty quickly, because you're leaping beyond the evidence of the incident To make two conclusions.
00:08:32.000 One, that the incident was driven primarily by racism, or even secondarily by racism.
00:08:37.000 And two, that all of America is responsible, even if this officer was a vicious racist who decided to kill a black man that day by putting his knee on the guy's neck.
00:08:45.000 How that indicates all of America is beyond me.
00:08:49.000 I don't see it.
00:08:50.000 We're all condemning it.
00:08:52.000 It's hard to pin an evil act on everyone in America, or on America more broadly, when everyone is condemning the action.
00:08:59.000 I've yet to see a person defending the action of the officer.
00:09:02.000 So we'll get to that in just one second, how this becomes politicized.
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00:10:34.000 And then, because they're making those claims, they've decided to justify the rioting that is going on in Minnesota.
00:10:39.000 This is so counterproductive, it's beyond belief.
00:10:41.000 If you believe that protests are legitimate against police brutality, why in the world would you start justifying riots, like people looting targets and such?
00:10:49.000 It's beyond insane.
00:10:50.000 But it ties into the, again, broader American narrative that Target is somehow is guilty of this thing because Target is part of America, as you are guilty, as the officer is guilty.
00:10:58.000 So Joe Biden, yesterday, suggested that the black community in America is under threat.
00:11:03.000 Now, that is just not true.
00:11:04.000 I'm sorry, it's not true.
00:11:05.000 I don't know why I should have to apologize.
00:11:07.000 It's a good thing.
00:11:08.000 It's a very good thing the black community in America is not under threat.
00:11:11.000 There's this narrative that Joe Biden has been attempting to draw.
00:11:13.000 I pointed this out last week when Joe Biden was saying that you can't be legitimately black if you vote for a Republican.
00:11:19.000 The implication that he was drawing, which is a nasty and horrible and ugly implication, is that Republicans are seeking to exterminate black people, which is just disgusting and horrifying in every possible way.
00:11:28.000 It is free of evidence.
00:11:29.000 It is gross.
00:11:30.000 But it ties into a broader narrative that America is just as racist as it has always been.
00:11:35.000 America is the land of slavery and Jim Crow.
00:11:37.000 Nothing has changed.
00:11:38.000 Black people in America are under existential threat.
00:11:40.000 Here was Joe Biden suggesting that black Americans are under existential threat each and every day.
00:11:44.000 It's not true.
00:11:45.000 By statistics, it is not true.
00:11:48.000 I can't breathe.
00:11:50.000 It's a tragic reminder that this was not an isolated incident, but a part of an ingrained systemic cycle of injustice that still exists in this country.
00:11:58.000 It cuts at the very heart of our sacred beliefs that all Americans are equal in rights and in dignity.
00:12:07.000 And it sends a very clear message to the black community and black lives that are under threat every single day.
00:12:14.000 Okay, black lives are not under threat every single day from America, writ broad.
00:12:18.000 Or police writ broadly, by the way.
00:12:20.000 Statistical studies continue to show over and over and over, like repeatedly, that there is no disproportionate shooting of black men by white officers in America.
00:12:28.000 This is not a statistical reality.
00:12:31.000 That does not mean that black people aren't mistreated by police.
00:12:34.000 That doesn't mean that there aren't racist police officers who do bad things.
00:12:37.000 Of course, all of that is true.
00:12:39.000 But if we are going to actively accuse the entire United States of victimizing black people to the extent that black lives are always in danger wherever you go, travel around America and you will see that this is not actually the case.
00:12:52.000 A huge percentage of Americans are black.
00:12:55.000 And the vast majority, nearly all of them, are not under threat of killing every single day.
00:13:02.000 It's such a wild overstatement.
00:13:04.000 And it's a wild overstatement that has a political purpose.
00:13:06.000 And the purpose is to suggest that only Joe Biden and Democrats can protect you.
00:13:10.000 But the reality is that your fellow Americans, if you are black, are not seeking to kill you.
00:13:14.000 This is not a reality.
00:13:17.000 There's a study that was published in August of 2019 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
00:13:24.000 And it showed that the police are not disproportionately shooting black men.
00:13:29.000 What dictates who gets shot by the police is the rate of violent crime in a community.
00:13:33.000 The more frequently officers encounter violent suspects from any given racial group, the greater the chances that members of that group will be shot by a police officer.
00:13:39.000 So if you are a police officer and you're in a high-crime Hispanic neighborhood, it is more likely you're going to shoot a Hispanic male.
00:13:44.000 If you are in a high-crime white neighborhood, it is more likely you're going to shoot a white male.
00:13:48.000 Black civilians are actually shot less compared to whites than their rates of violent crime would predict.
00:13:52.000 That's according to one study.
00:13:53.000 Then there's a study by Roland Fryer, who is a black sociologist who studies crime over at Harvard University.
00:14:00.000 He found that conditional on police interaction, there are no racial differences in officer-instigated shootings on either the extensive or intensive margins.
00:14:09.000 After controlling for suspect demographics, officer demographics, encounter characteristics, suspect weapon, and year fixed effects, blacks are 27.4% less likely to be shot by police than relative to non-black and non-Hispanics.
00:14:22.000 Investigating the intensive margin, who shoots first in an encounter with police, or how many bullets were discharged in the endeavor, there are no detectable racial differences, according to Roland Fryer, again a black professor from Harvard University.
00:14:33.000 So the narrative that black Americans are under threat from police, broadly speaking, across America is just not true.
00:14:37.000 It's not a reality.
00:14:39.000 That does not mean that there aren't more confrontations between black Americans and police, because police are usually in high-crime neighborhoods, and unfortunately, there are a lot of high-crime neighborhoods that happen to be black.
00:14:49.000 That's a tragedy, and the only way that that's going to be solved is with more police, not fewer police.
00:14:55.000 It's with crime rates going down, not crime rates going up.
00:14:57.000 But the generalized narrative that America is broadly guilty for the actions of Derek Chauvin, or even, by the way, that Derek Chauvin is an unrepentant racist, and that's why this happened, It's a bizarre take, and people are stretching the truth to get there.
00:15:11.000 So take, for example, Ice Cube.
00:15:13.000 So Ice Cube tweeted out, the rapper Ice Cube, the actor Ice Cube, he tweeted out yesterday a picture of Derek Chauvin with his knee on this guy's neck, and then a picture of another guy wearing a Make Whites Great Again, it looks like a MAGA hat, right?
00:15:29.000 It's red with the white text, it says, Make Whites Great Again.
00:15:31.000 He writes, a wolf in wolf's clothing, The demons are among us.
00:15:36.000 Hashtag, fight the cowards.
00:15:39.000 And there's only one problem with this.
00:15:42.000 And the one problem with this is that the person in the right-hand side of the photo is not the person in the left-hand side of the photo.
00:15:49.000 It's just not true.
00:15:51.000 According to Snopes.com, this is not the right person.
00:15:56.000 The person who is actually wearing that hat, and this made the rounds yesterday, it was trending on Twitter, because the idea was this was an unrepentant racist who had killed a black man because he was a racist, and also a Trump supporter presumably because of the hat.
00:16:08.000 It turns out that the photo actually shows a guy named Jonathan Riches, a supporter of President Trump, who's also a former federal inmate and an online troll who has garnered a reputation for filing lawsuits.
00:16:18.000 Okay, so this was taken and it was placed next to the photo to demonstrate that this was obviously an instance of racism.
00:16:25.000 Again, maybe it is and maybe it isn't.
00:16:27.000 We're gonna have to find out the evidence on this.
00:16:29.000 But even if it is, that does not indicate broad-based American racism.
00:16:33.000 Then Ice Cube tweeted out, how long will we go for blue on black crime before we strike back?
00:16:38.000 Strike back against whom?
00:16:40.000 Against the police officers who didn't do this?
00:16:41.000 I mean, is he calling for violence against police officers?
00:16:43.000 How is any of this useful?
00:16:45.000 How is any of this good?
00:16:47.000 Gail King on CBS Morning News, she said the same thing.
00:16:49.000 She said, well, this seems like open season on black men.
00:16:51.000 Again, where is the evidence that it is open season on black men?
00:16:54.000 Where's the evidence?
00:16:55.000 I understand why you would look at a video and think that's a really ugly incident and it's a white guy and it's a black guy.
00:17:01.000 And obviously that is an instance of racism.
00:17:04.000 I understand why you might jump to that conclusion, but let me just say, you still have to follow the evidence.
00:17:08.000 I mean, Gail King is a reporter.
00:17:10.000 And not only should Gayle King not be saying this, the suggestion that black men everywhere are in danger from the police is just, like, at some point you're going to have to present the evidence for this.
00:17:21.000 I'm very tired of the illogical jump between police were racist in 1960 and police are racist in 2020 to the extent that every black man in America is in danger.
00:17:33.000 It's divisive.
00:17:34.000 It's ugly.
00:17:35.000 In a time when, again, we're all unified.
00:17:37.000 Everyone agrees that this guy Derek Chauvin should go to jail.
00:17:40.000 I'm waiting to hear the person who's like, yeah, that sounds like what he did seems like good to me.
00:17:44.000 No one is saying that.
00:17:45.000 Here's Gayle King, again, drawing a conclusion that is not supportable by the evidence.
00:17:51.000 We go from that story now to this story where she falsely accuses a black man on television.
00:17:57.000 I mean, I don't even know what to do or how to handle this at this particular time.
00:18:01.000 I know that this is I'm speechless.
00:18:06.000 I'm really, really speechless about what we're seeing on television this morning.
00:18:09.000 It feels to me like an open season, and that it's just not sometimes a safe place to be in this country for black men, and today is too much for me.
00:18:21.000 Yes, America is a safe country for black men.
00:18:23.000 It is a very, very safe country for black men.
00:18:26.000 It's a safe country for nearly everyone.
00:18:27.000 Crime rates in America have gone down so dramatically since the 1960s that it makes your head boggle.
00:18:32.000 I mean, since 1994, the crime rates in America have just dropped into the basement.
00:18:38.000 And the Minneapolis mayor did the same thing.
00:18:40.000 He says being black shouldn't be a death sentence.
00:18:41.000 Being black is not a death sentence.
00:18:43.000 It is not a death sentence.
00:18:44.000 There are over 30 million black Americans living in the United States.
00:18:47.000 It is not a death sentence to be black in America.
00:18:49.000 Can we please stop with this sort of rhetoric?
00:18:51.000 There was a point in which it was, in fact, a sentence to living death to be black in America when slavery was a thing.
00:18:58.000 There was a point when it was It was to be sentenced to second-class citizenship, to be black in America.
00:19:03.000 That's when Jim Crow was a thing.
00:19:04.000 It is not a death sentence to be black in America today.
00:19:07.000 And if you think that it is, you're delusional.
00:19:09.000 You're delusional.
00:19:10.000 Either that, or you're allowing your passion to overcome your reason.
00:19:12.000 Here is the Minneapolis mayor making a claim that is completely unsupportable by evidence.
00:19:17.000 Being black in America should not be a death sentence.
00:19:21.000 For five minutes, we watched as a white officer pressed his knee into the neck of a black man for five minutes.
00:19:36.000 When you hear someone calling for help, you are supposed to help.
00:19:45.000 Okay.
00:19:47.000 This officer failed in the most basic human sense.
00:19:54.000 Okay, agree with the passion, agree with the conviction, wildly disagree with the idea that if you're a black man in America, that is a death sentence.
00:20:01.000 I mean, that's a wild statement.
00:20:03.000 It's a wild statement that being black in America is a death sentence.
00:20:06.000 How many black people live in Minneapolis?
00:20:08.000 A lot of black people live in Minneapolis.
00:20:10.000 Is that a death sentence for all the black people living in Minneapolis?
00:20:12.000 He's the mayor.
00:20:13.000 Maybe you should do something about that.
00:20:14.000 That sounds pretty terrible.
00:20:18.000 This sort of rhetoric is deeply polarizing for no reason because, again, we all agree this officer should go to jail based on the available evidence.
00:20:26.000 We all agree that he did something that is disgusting and egregious.
00:20:28.000 No one's defending it.
00:20:30.000 But the jump from that to the already set 1619 Project Narrative, that America is racist in every way, and everything in America that's good is fruit of the poisonous tree, and that America continues to be just as racist as it ever was, it's really, it's bad stuff.
00:20:43.000 It's bad for the country.
00:20:43.000 It's bad stuff.
00:20:44.000 We'll get to more of this in just one second, because it's actually now being used, this sort of mentality, is being used to justify rioting and looting by some people, or at least overlooking rioting and looting.
00:20:54.000 We're supposed to justify the anger of people who booted Target as though you're honoring George Floyd's memory by stealing a TV or some such nonsense.
00:21:01.000 He'll get to that in just one second.
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00:22:11.000 There is something that is deeply despicable, obviously in a very different way than what appears to be the manslaughter and or murder of a human being, but deeply despicable politically and really bad for the country in suggesting that when a bad thing happens, that that thing innately demonstrates American racism and then you don't even have to provide evidence.
00:22:28.000 The allegation is itself the evidence of the racism.
00:22:32.000 And evidence of America's broad-based racism, even if America rejects the action itself.
00:22:36.000 So LeBron James did this again.
00:22:38.000 LeBron James has an unfortunate habit of injecting himself into controversies in ways that are not well-informed.
00:22:45.000 Now, listen, I appreciate that, again, LeBron James, I think, tries to be politically active.
00:22:49.000 That's fine.
00:22:50.000 He's entitled to his opinion.
00:22:51.000 That doesn't mean that he's entitled to be this deeply wrong.
00:22:54.000 So LeBron James, he's not entitled to his own set of facts, in other words.
00:22:57.000 LeBron James put up this thing on his Instagram In which he compared the officer Derek Chauvin kneeling on the neck of this George Floyd unfortunate human being and Colin Kaepernick kneeling and said, this is why.
00:23:12.000 He says, do you understand now or is it still blurred to you?
00:23:15.000 Hashtag stay woke.
00:23:17.000 Well, no, it's still blurred to me.
00:23:19.000 Because Colin Kaepernick was not kneeling to protest police brutality alone.
00:23:24.000 He was kneeling because his suggestion is that America tolerates police brutality, that America is pro-police brutality, that America is racist, that the American flag represents racism.
00:23:31.000 And that is nasty, and it is garbage, and it is not true.
00:23:33.000 And you know who knows that's not true?
00:23:35.000 LeBron James.
00:23:36.000 Who has done extraordinarily well in America, and he should, because he's an incredibly talented human being.
00:23:42.000 And his color has not been an obstacle to him being incredibly successful in the United States.
00:23:46.000 That's a very good thing.
00:23:48.000 Colin Kaepernick's color was not an obstacle to him being a success in the United States.
00:23:53.000 No, the point was that that was not why Colin Kaepernick was kneeling.
00:23:56.000 Colin Kaepernick was wearing socks with pigs on them, dressed up as cops, as though all cops were pigs.
00:24:01.000 The conflation of a bad cop with racist cop, and then that conflation of racist cop with all of America is really quite despicable.
00:24:10.000 And again, unsupportable.
00:24:11.000 By evidence, it divides us in ways that are just unthinkably bad, unthinkably wrong.
00:24:17.000 Because the fact is that there are so many black Americans who have fought for that flag.
00:24:20.000 There's so many black Americans who serve in police forces.
00:24:23.000 There's so many black Americans who are law-abiding citizens.
00:24:26.000 And so many black Americans who rightly fight this kind of stuff in the proper ways that conflating people who are doing it in stupid and divisive and nasty ways with that is just, it's completely ridiculous and silly.
00:24:38.000 And you're seeing this sort of thing arise in Minnesota.
00:24:40.000 So in Minnesota overnight, there were a bunch of protests and protests are fine.
00:24:44.000 That's a First Amendment right.
00:24:44.000 Right?
00:24:45.000 What is not a First Amendment right is breaking into the target and looting it.
00:24:48.000 I remember we had the L.A.
00:24:49.000 riots in my home city.
00:24:52.000 I believe that was 1994, the L.A.
00:24:54.000 I believe I was 10 at the time.
00:24:54.000 riots.
00:24:55.000 And I remember L.A.
00:24:56.000 burning.
00:24:57.000 It was 1992, so I was 8.
00:25:01.000 And Maxine Waters called it the L.A.
00:25:03.000 Burning down stores and stealing TVs is not an uprising.
00:25:03.000 uprising.
00:25:06.000 It's you being a piece of crap.
00:25:08.000 Hey, that's not in any way, in any way excusing police brutality.
00:25:14.000 I just, I'm wondering how smashing the cash registers at Target is solving police brutality exactly.
00:25:20.000 How exactly is you breaking into a Target and then ransacking the shelves, solving police brutality, or burning down an auto zone, which is another thing that happened in Minneapolis last night?
00:25:30.000 I'm sorry.
00:25:30.000 It's disgusting.
00:25:31.000 Looting is disgusting.
00:25:31.000 Rioting is disgusting.
00:25:32.000 And no, it is not justified by this sort of stuff.
00:25:34.000 It is not justified by the Derek Chauvin case.
00:25:36.000 Protests outside the police station are justified by all this sort of stuff, but I'll tell you things that are not justified by this sort of stuff.
00:25:42.000 Breaking into the Target, which is completely unrelated.
00:25:45.000 Smashing store windows.
00:25:48.000 There was a tape of two guys who had gone to their local store in Minneapolis, and they were standing outside their store with guns, saying the cops have been basically told to stand down.
00:25:54.000 We're not going to stand down.
00:25:55.000 We're going to protect our property.
00:25:56.000 By the way, they should be protesting the police.
00:25:59.000 These two things are not mutually exclusive.
00:26:01.000 You can very much understand the protests of the police, even though the police, by the way, did the right thing and fired these guys, and there will be prosecutions, I am sure.
00:26:11.000 But the attempt to excuse rioting is utterly asinine.
00:26:16.000 And you're seeing a lot of that online right now.
00:26:17.000 Well, you know, the anger is justified, the anger is just— You're not stealing a TV because you're angry.
00:26:21.000 You're stealing a TV because you want a TV.
00:26:24.000 You burning down an AutoZone is not you being angry.
00:26:27.000 You burning down an AutoZone is because you're a criminal and you feel like burning down an AutoZone.
00:26:31.000 Sorry, that's not the way this works.
00:26:33.000 There are a lot of angry people in American politics.
00:26:35.000 Does any of that mean that you get to go and loot the local grocery?
00:26:39.000 Obviously not.
00:26:40.000 It's absurdity piled on absurdity.
00:26:43.000 And then you had the riots.
00:26:46.000 There was... I would call it a riot, I suppose.
00:26:49.000 In Los Angeles, people attacking cop cars, like full-on attacking cop cars.
00:26:53.000 There's footage of people smashing cop car windows, gathering around cop cars and attacking police officers who had nothing to do with this in a completely different city.
00:27:03.000 Anytime you say things like, well, you know, the anger is justified, the anger is justified, I don't care about whether your feelings are justified.
00:27:10.000 I care mostly about whether your actions are justified.
00:27:14.000 First of all, your feelings against an unrelated police officer are probably not justified.
00:27:20.000 Let's just put it that way.
00:27:22.000 And your feelings against Target are certainly not justified.
00:27:23.000 But the attempt to sort of shy away from exposing bad behavior and to pretend that bad behavior is not happening here is insipid and ridiculous on every level.
00:27:35.000 And again, very bad for the country.
00:27:37.000 And bad for the protesters, by the way.
00:27:38.000 If you want sympathy for your protest, then you should not unify with the looters and with the rioters.
00:27:43.000 And I haven't seen the protesters doing that, by the way, by and large.
00:27:45.000 I've seen a lot of people on Twitter trying to pretend that if you pay attention to the looting, you're a bad person.
00:27:50.000 That if you pay attention to the fact that Minneapolis was in flames last night, so much so that satellites were picking up the smoke.
00:27:56.000 That if you pay attention to that, that somehow you're ignoring the underlying crime that happened.
00:28:01.000 But as always, many things can be true at once.
00:28:03.000 You burning down an auto zone makes you a piece of crap.
00:28:06.000 You know what else makes you a piece of crap?
00:28:08.000 Even more a piece of crap?
00:28:09.000 Kneeling on the neck of a person until they die.
00:28:11.000 That makes you, like, the worst piece of crap.
00:28:13.000 But among other pieces of crap, who are less bad, but also pieces of crap, are people who loot targets because they feel like stealing bleep.
00:28:20.000 And people who put up signs on the sides of buildings while they're burning down an unrelated building saying, F the police.
00:28:26.000 None of this is justified.
00:28:28.000 It's not.
00:28:29.000 Okay, and to pretend it is, and to go soft on it, or to suggest that all of this is deeply indicative of underlying American racism, and therefore you can burn down the target because the target is just part of the giant superstructure of America, and it's supported by capitalism, and it's insured anyway.
00:28:43.000 Seriously.
00:28:44.000 Disgusting.
00:28:45.000 Truly disgusting.
00:28:47.000 And here's the thing, again, it doesn't have to be this way.
00:28:50.000 None of this has to be this way.
00:28:52.000 We could all agree on this stuff.
00:28:54.000 But we have deliberately decided that we are not going to agree on this stuff.
00:28:56.000 Instead, we are going to read into evidence things which have not yet been evidenced.
00:29:02.000 And as we will see, we're going to carry this over to even the most minute and stupid of conflicts.
00:29:07.000 At least in this case of Derek Chauvin, you could see the jump.
00:29:10.000 But in many other cases that are popping up on Twitter, like every two days now, there's an attempt to attribute to America more broadly and to American history and to the deep superstructure of American racism, instances in which there's no actual evidence of racism.
00:29:22.000 We're just going to destroy people on Twitter now for no apparent reason.
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00:30:30.000 Okay, so, You can tell a narrative is now taking place.
00:30:35.000 Minneapolis is leading the way because that is the worst of these situations, right?
00:30:38.000 It ended with a human being's death, a person who never should have died, obviously.
00:30:42.000 But we are also seeing on Twitter a bunch of other sort of minor confrontations elevated into major confrontations without evidence.
00:30:48.000 So here's an example.
00:30:49.000 There is an unfortunate person whose name is Tom Austin.
00:30:52.000 Tom Austin is apparently some sort of executive And Tom Austin lives in a private building.
00:31:00.000 There is some sort of private gym at this private building.
00:31:05.000 And in order for you to access the private gym, you are supposed to be, you know, a member of the building.
00:31:09.000 This exists at many, many, many buildings.
00:31:11.000 And so, this fellow Tom Austin gets taped by a group of self-described young black entrepreneurs.
00:31:18.000 Okay, he gets taped.
00:31:20.000 Because he asks them to see their key cards, and they say no.
00:31:20.000 Why?
00:31:24.000 They say that we are from the building, we are not going to do this, and you're racially profiling us.
00:31:29.000 And now, there's no evidence that he's racially profiling them.
00:31:31.000 As in, none.
00:31:32.000 Right?
00:31:32.000 I don't know that he routinely asks people in the gym whether or not they are supposed to be there or not.
00:31:36.000 Also, as it turns out, some of these guys actually didn't have key cards.
00:31:40.000 Apparently.
00:31:41.000 So, this tape is put on Twitter.
00:31:43.000 Here is the tape.
00:31:44.000 It has millions of views.
00:31:45.000 Literally millions of views.
00:31:46.000 Almost 6 million views on Twitter.
00:31:48.000 Here is the tape of Tom Austin apparently being a vicious racist.
00:31:50.000 At no point does he mention their race, and no point does he say anything racist.
00:31:53.000 We know he's a racist because he asked people in a private gym whether they ought to be in the private gym.
00:31:57.000 Here is Tom Austin.
00:31:58.000 He personally trended on Twitter last night.
00:32:01.000 I'm Tom Austin.
00:32:02.000 I'm a tenant in the building.
00:32:04.000 Are you?
00:32:05.000 We're all tenants in this building.
00:32:09.000 So we have an office here and this guy came accusing us we can't be here.
00:32:13.000 What office are you in?
00:32:14.000 Don't worry about that.
00:32:15.000 As you guys can see, we're dealing with racism here.
00:32:17.000 As you guys can see, we're dealing with racism here.
00:32:21.000 Nicole?
00:32:22.000 Hey, this is Tom Austin.
00:32:24.000 I remember going to the gym.
00:32:25.000 There's a whole... I don't know what we're doing here, but there's a whole bunch of people who don't appear to be part of the... Y'all see these racers on there?
00:32:34.000 Okay, so at no point here is there any implication of racism.
00:32:38.000 Nonetheless, this guy is forced to go online and then issue a mea culpa saying that he's a part of the white supremacist infrastructure, because this is how stupid our world is now.
00:32:45.000 What did he actually say?
00:32:46.000 He said, yes, I effed up.
00:32:47.000 Should have handled it differently.
00:32:49.000 Not my job to have done anything.
00:32:50.000 So now we are saying that he's not allowed to ask anybody if they're in the private gym improperly, or to call anybody if somebody is in the private gym improperly, because God forbid, they should be of a different race.
00:32:59.000 That means that he's a racist.
00:33:00.000 He says building management had been complaining that tenants were allowing their friends to trespass and use a private gym.
00:33:04.000 It was authorized only for building tenants.
00:33:06.000 When I arrived to the gym, I said hello to everyone.
00:33:08.000 But after working out for 10 minutes, I noticed that one of the tenants seemed to have brought four friends.
00:33:11.000 And I complained to them this isn't right.
00:33:13.000 One guy was letting his other four friends in and out of the building with his own passcard.
00:33:16.000 Four guys did not have a passcard.
00:33:18.000 When I said something, they got in my face accusing me of racial profiling.
00:33:21.000 I said it wasn't racial profiling, it was all about suspicious activity behavior.
00:33:24.000 Because they were in my face and didn't have passcards, I took photos and called the property manager.
00:33:29.000 I only called the building property manager.
00:33:30.000 I didn't call 911.
00:33:32.000 I told them I'd have done the same thing if they were white, or even if a bunch of girls were trespassing.
00:33:35.000 What the videos didn't show is I spent 15 minutes listening to their grievances.
00:33:38.000 I empathized with them, the challenges they faced.
00:33:40.000 What surprises me is that this video was posted even though we worked out in the gym together for another 45 minutes while having friendly banter.
00:33:46.000 Everyone was fine.
00:33:47.000 I'd already apologized to them for making them feel it was a race issue and I listened to all their grievances.
00:33:51.000 When I left the gym at the end of the night, I said, have a great night, hope we're good, did a fist bump with each of them.
00:33:55.000 There's way more to the story.
00:33:56.000 I've offered to reach out and sit down with the guys.
00:33:57.000 Nobody has responded.
00:33:58.000 Seems more about hyping up the community rather than trying to come to truth and having an honest conversation.
00:34:03.000 Obviously, this guy is a vicious racist and we should end his career.
00:34:05.000 Clearly, he did something deeply, deeply wrong.
00:34:08.000 And we've seen so many of these in the past week and a half, like an incredible number of these, right?
00:34:11.000 We had that clip between the FedEx employees and the homeowner where the FedEx employees suggested the homeowner did something truly terrible and racist.
00:34:17.000 There was no evidence that any of this happened, so the story sort of disappeared from the news.
00:34:21.000 There was no follow-up, because it turns out that no investigation could show, apparently, that something deeply horrible had happened in racist fashion.
00:34:28.000 Here, these guys got fired from FedEx after posting the tape.
00:34:32.000 We had a full week of controversy after two people basically yelled at each other in Central Park.
00:34:38.000 After one man, a black man, saw a white woman who was walking her dog off leash in the birdwatching part of the park and asked her to put the dog on the leash and she refused.
00:34:46.000 And he said, well, if you won't do what I want, then I'm going to do something that you don't like.
00:34:50.000 And then he summoned her dog over with dog treats, even though he didn't have a dog and she felt threatened.
00:34:54.000 And she said that I'm going to call the cops on you.
00:34:55.000 And this became a major racial blow up.
00:34:58.000 Okay, how is any of this like solving racism?
00:35:01.000 A question, how is any of this helping us solve racism?
00:35:04.000 Is any of this forwarding the cause?
00:35:08.000 Also, it seems like there's relative unanimity on what good behavior constitutes and what bad behavior constitutes, except in the media.
00:35:13.000 There's an entire article by a woman named Ruby Hamad called, A White Damsel Leveraged Racial Power and Failed.
00:35:19.000 Well, then maybe she didn't have racial power.
00:35:20.000 Does that ever occur to anybody?
00:35:22.000 If you leverage power and you fail, maybe you were overestimating your amount of racial power.
00:35:28.000 The viral video of this tense interaction between a white woman walking her dog and a black man birdwatching in Central Park has become the latest flashpoint not only of discussions of racism and police brutality against black men, but also of the pivotal role played by white women.
00:35:39.000 The damsel in distress archetype probably conjures up images of delicate maidens and chivalrous gentlemen.
00:35:44.000 That's precisely what it's designed to do for white people.
00:35:47.000 To people of color and especially African Americans who have borne the brunt of her power in the United States, the image is very different.
00:35:51.000 So now we are going to compare this woman who called the cops after a guy tried to draw her dog over.
00:35:58.000 With treats, from his pocket, and said a quasi-racist thing, that she's gonna call the cops and say an African-American man is threatening her and there's no reason to implicate race there.
00:36:08.000 That when she does that, this is the same as the evil history in America of white women claiming that black men had ravished them and then justifying the activity of the Ku Klux Klan.
00:36:19.000 That is the way that we are gonna work here.
00:36:22.000 Every New York Times column is, here's the thing that happened in 2020.
00:36:25.000 It's exactly the same as the thing that happened in 1852.
00:36:26.000 Exactly.
00:36:29.000 We're not going to explain why.
00:36:30.000 It's exactly the same.
00:36:31.000 It's every Ta-Nehisi Coates column.
00:36:33.000 Every single one is, or every Jamal Bowie column.
00:36:36.000 Here's a bad thing happening in 2020.
00:36:37.000 Remember when a bad thing happened in like 1920?
00:36:41.000 Well, we're going to say it's exactly the same because history has fruit.
00:36:41.000 And it wasn't the same?
00:36:47.000 This column then goes to the memoir of a woman named Harriet Jacobs, published in 1861.
00:36:52.000 To connect to this, this tapestry of testimonials reveals a social fabric held together not only by the sexual abuse of black women, but also by the collective projection of blame back onto the victims.
00:37:05.000 Wherever European men colonized, the damsel followed.
00:37:08.000 Cooper has been fired from her job following an outcry at the way she yanks her thrashing and yelping Cocker Spaniel by the collar has surrendered her dog.
00:37:08.000 Ms.
00:37:13.000 By the way, I just I don't know dogs well enough.
00:37:15.000 It seems to me that if you leash a dog and you are pulling the dog around by the leash, it's pretty much the same thing as holding the dog by the collar.
00:37:20.000 But maybe I'm completely wrong on all of this.
00:37:23.000 But again, the idea here is that she is a symbol of long lasting white supremacy, except she's the one who got fired.
00:37:30.000 Did anything happen to Christian Cooper except that he got a bunch of wonderful coverage in the media?
00:37:35.000 By the way, He said, I'm not excusing the racism.
00:37:39.000 I don't know that her life needed to be torn apart.
00:37:40.000 But then he said, he said, if we're going to make progress, we've got to address these things.
00:37:45.000 If this painful progress is going to help us address this, there's a yellow warbler.
00:37:48.000 If this painful process helps to correct or takes us a step further toward addressing the underlying racial horrible assumptions that we African-Americans have to deal with and have dealt with for centuries, that this woman tapped into, then it's worth it.
00:37:58.000 Sadly, it has to come at her expense.
00:37:59.000 So in other words, I'm sorry she lost her job, but I'm not so sorry she lost her job.
00:38:02.000 Because racial progress depends on people blowing up racial incidents, or even non-racial incidents as it turns out in some of these cases, into massive indicators of broad-based American racism.
00:38:14.000 And by the way, we're now extending this conversation into the world of COVID, which is purely insane because COVID is a disease, people.
00:38:22.000 COVID is a disease.
00:38:23.000 We'll get to more of this in just one second.
00:38:26.000 Then we'll get to President Trump going after Twitter.
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00:40:46.000 So there was a time when in the aftermath of pandemic, everybody thought that intersectionality was going to go the way of the dodo bird.
00:40:58.000 That the entire attempt to divide Americans by race, sex, class, and to try to suggest that America is just hierarchies of power, that was going to go by the wayside as we all faced down an extraordinarily dangerous disease, and we all locked down, and we all became Americans together.
00:41:11.000 So that lasted approximately 27.2 seconds.
00:41:13.000 That was really exciting.
00:41:14.000 Now, there's an attempt by the media to take the racialized narrative and draw it into COVID.
00:41:18.000 I've been talking about this for a while.
00:41:19.000 This attempt to suggest that America is deeply and interminably racist because black people are dying at a higher rate than white people from COVID-19.
00:41:26.000 Neglecting to mention the confounding factors like obesity and diabetes rates.
00:41:30.000 Neglecting to mention the possibility that vitamin D consumption might have something to do with this.
00:41:34.000 That's according to a study from the Lancet.
00:41:35.000 Neglecting to mention that there is a vast disparity between black and white death in Britain, like four to one.
00:41:40.000 So that in-American brand racism that's causing that disparity, that's over in the UK.
00:41:45.000 We've seen similar stuff with regard to maternal mortality rates.
00:41:48.000 The 1619 Project suggested that black women die in childbirth a lot more than white women die in childbirth because of racism.
00:41:53.000 There is virtually no evidence to support the idea that the racism is the deciding factor, that doctors are being like, oh, look, a black lady, gonna let her die.
00:42:00.000 Or low birth weight for children that has anything to do with racism.
00:42:05.000 So instead, you basically have to say, History was full of racism.
00:42:08.000 We are part of history.
00:42:09.000 Therefore, this is because of racism.
00:42:11.000 So now we're trying to do that with COVID-19.
00:42:13.000 There's an article in the New York Times today.
00:42:15.000 It says the study of Louisiana hospitals highlights the pandemic's disproportionate burden on communities of color.
00:42:21.000 The hospital system, Ochsner Health, serves a predominantly white population, but most patients hospitalized with COVID-19 over a recent six-week period were black, according to research published on Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine.
00:42:32.000 Oxnard Health operates hospitals and outpatient facilities throughout Louisiana.
00:42:36.000 About 30% of the patient population is black.
00:42:38.000 Among the 1,382 patients with COVID-19 hospitalized from March 1st to April 11th, 77% were black.
00:42:44.000 Black patients made up 80% of patients transferred to the ICU and nearly 82% of those put on ventilators to help with breathing.
00:42:50.000 So I have a question.
00:42:51.000 Are they only being put on ventilators and in the ICU because they are black?
00:42:54.000 Or is it possible that maybe people are coming in because they are unhealthy and also happen to be black?
00:43:00.000 And also, if you're going to talk about racism in the medical system, wouldn't the better indicator be that a lot of black people are dying out of the hospital and not being given care?
00:43:08.000 Right?
00:43:08.000 That would be an indicator of racism, not that people are getting the care that they are supposed to need.
00:43:12.000 The authors of the new study reported that compared with white patients who were hospitalized, black patients had higher rates of obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, and chronic kidney disease.
00:43:20.000 Well, maybe that would be the factor here, would it not?
00:43:24.000 Maybe that would be the factor.
00:43:25.000 But in the attempt to racialize everything, we have decided that COVID-19 is also racist, or that it just merely exposes underlying American racism.
00:43:33.000 Again, all of this is terrible for the country.
00:43:35.000 Because we all agree racism is bad.
00:43:38.000 We all agree police brutality is bad.
00:43:40.000 We all agree that racism should be fought at every turn.
00:43:43.000 And any attempt to suggest that black Americans are under threat by America, broadly written, It's just a lie, and it's a nasty, disgusting lie at that.
00:43:50.000 Attempting to impute guilt to people who are not guilty of things.
00:43:53.000 Attempting to impute to America a guilt that America has spent generations attempting to alleviate.
00:43:59.000 Just really, really bad stuff.
00:44:01.000 Okay, meanwhile, the President of the United States is talking about an executive order that would crack down on Twitter today.
00:44:08.000 This has been driven by the fact that Twitter has put fact checks on some of his tweets.
00:44:13.000 Now, should Twitter do that?
00:44:14.000 No, it's incredibly stupid.
00:44:15.000 The reason it's incredibly stupid is because Twitter is not good at fact checking.
00:44:19.000 In fact, Twitter's first fact check of President Trump was not correct.
00:44:22.000 They suggested that there was no fraud in mail-in voting.
00:44:24.000 Not true.
00:44:26.000 And the fact is that Twitter should not consider itself to be the arbiter of truth.
00:44:30.000 Mark Zuckerberg has been raked over the coals by people right, left, and center.
00:44:33.000 Mark Zuckerberg's perspective on free speech and the role of these websites is far, far, far better and far more intellectually coherent than anything Jack Dorsey, that dumbass over at Twitter, is doing.
00:44:42.000 Here is Mark Zuckerberg treating all big tech like they're exactly the same is not accurate.
00:44:46.000 Here's Zuckerberg on Dana Perino's show yesterday saying, listen, we're not the arbiters of truth.
00:44:50.000 People have the ability to actually fact check things themselves.
00:44:54.000 I have a different policy, I think, than Twitter on this.
00:44:57.000 You know, I just believe strongly that Facebook shouldn't be the arbiter of truth of everything that people say online.
00:45:05.000 I think in general, private companies probably shouldn't be, or especially these platform companies, shouldn't be in the position of doing that.
00:45:14.000 And he, of course, is exactly right.
00:45:15.000 He was rigged over the coals by the left for this.
00:45:16.000 How dare he?
00:45:17.000 How dare he suggest that it's not Facebook's job to determine absolute truth?
00:45:21.000 We need Jack Dorsey doing it, according to the left.
00:45:24.000 Well, this has driven a reaction from President Trump, which is, OK, well, then I'm just going to crack down on social media.
00:45:29.000 Now, this is based on a misinterpretation of the Communications Decency Act, Section 230.
00:45:34.000 So Section 230 basically shields companies from liability if they have comment sections.
00:45:38.000 That's all this is.
00:45:39.000 So Daily Wire is responsible for the people that we pay and the people that we edit.
00:45:43.000 We are not responsible for the comment sections.
00:45:45.000 That does not mean we can't curate our comment sections.
00:45:47.000 In fact, we can curate our comment sections.
00:45:49.000 Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act was specifically created in order to protect companies who are attempting to shield people from viewing pornography in the comments, shield people from viewing obscenity in the comments.
00:46:00.000 The basic idea was, why should it be that if you police your comments for the F word, that you will be held liable if there's a bad comment?
00:46:07.000 But if you don't police your comments, then you won't be held liable.
00:46:10.000 So, the Communications Decency Act, Section 230, which shields companies like Facebook and Twitter, quote-unquote, open platforms that are still curated in terms of the commentary, or edited, that shield those from liability.
00:46:22.000 The original idea was that the two alternatives should not be either you are fully liable for all your comments or you have to have a completely unregulated comment section.
00:46:30.000 That's why the provision was created in the first place.
00:46:33.000 People have misread that to believe that Twitter has violated Section 230 by not being unbiased or something.
00:46:38.000 And that's not true.
00:46:39.000 Twitter doesn't have to be unbiased.
00:46:40.000 That's clear from the language.
00:46:42.000 Does that mean that Twitter is smart?
00:46:43.000 No, Twitter is incredibly stupid.
00:46:44.000 But I would just recommend that people recognize that you know who's in favor of rewriting Section 230 the way that President Trump is talking about?
00:46:50.000 Joe Biden.
00:46:51.000 Joe Biden literally came out a couple months ago and said that he would like to rewrite Section 230.
00:46:56.000 He said it should be revoked immediately.
00:46:58.000 Why?
00:46:59.000 Because Facebook isn't merely an internet company, he just wants to control Facebook.
00:47:04.000 That is not a good thing for conservatives.
00:47:08.000 The notion that if you are going to regulate YouTube or Google or Facebook or Twitter, that this is somehow going to redound to conservative benefit?
00:47:16.000 I have some questions on how exactly you believe that's going to go when Elizabeth Warren is in charge of regulating Facebook or Twitter.
00:47:23.000 Listen, I think Twitter is a garbage heap, too.
00:47:25.000 It's a flaming dumpster fire.
00:47:26.000 I've talked about it extensively over the last several weeks.
00:47:30.000 But the idea that you're somehow going to be able to regulate this from the top of government with some sort of executive order, that is a bizarre take.
00:47:37.000 A very, very bizarre take.
00:47:40.000 Now, some conservatives have been suggesting that we need to rewrite the Communications Decency Act because effectively, when you edit these comments enough, you're acting as a publisher.
00:47:49.000 You're basically distinguishing between things that you think are okay to be up and things that you think are not okay to be up.
00:47:54.000 But the CDA specifically provides for that sort of thing.
00:47:59.000 And people should recognize that the actual result of this is going to be not that Twitter becomes a fully open platform in which everybody gets to publish whatever they want, but the shutdown of Twitter.
00:48:08.000 And people should recognize that we'll shut down our comment sections at Daily Wire.
00:48:12.000 We don't have time to curate all your comments.
00:48:13.000 So we'll just shut down our comment section.
00:48:14.000 Every comment section across the country will die if you get rid of Section 230.
00:48:19.000 So, recognize that not every problem has a great government solution, and this would be one of those.
00:48:25.000 I think Twitter is handled horribly, too.
00:48:27.000 I think that an executive order against social media companies on the basis that Trump doesn't like Twitter is a very large-scale mistake.
00:48:33.000 The expansion of size and scope of government is not... When is the last time this is redounded to the benefit of Americans?
00:48:38.000 Seriously, it just doesn't.
00:48:40.000 Or conservatives, more broadly.
00:48:42.000 Alrighty, time for a bunch of things that I hate.
00:48:49.000 Alrighty, so we are watching actual world historical events happening in real time.
00:48:52.000 Hong Kong has now lost complete autonomy.
00:48:54.000 According to the Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, Hong Kong is no longer an autonomous government.
00:48:59.000 The New York Times reports that Secretary of State Pompeo announced on Wednesday the State Department no longer considered Hong Kong to have significant autonomy under Chinese rule, a move that indicated the Trump administration was likely to end some or all of the US government's special trade and economic relations with the territory in southern China.
00:49:13.000 This is a major story.
00:49:14.000 There are many, many American companies that have bases in Hong Kong.
00:49:18.000 that have branches in Hong Kong because Hong Kong still had some level of independence from the Chinese government.
00:49:23.000 The Chinese government has been using the pandemic.
00:49:25.000 First, they unleashed the pandemic on the world.
00:49:27.000 Then, they decide, you know what?
00:49:29.000 It's a great time to crack down on all dissent inside Hong Kong and it's precisely what they have been doing.
00:49:34.000 They have now pushed legislation that would make it treason to criticize the Chinese government.
00:49:38.000 That is the next move that the Chinese government has been pursuing.
00:49:42.000 This is really horrifying stuff and it demonstrates full-scale That when you run away from dictatorships, dictatorships don't treat you nicely.
00:49:51.000 When the British decided to cede control of Hong Kong to the Chinese government in the name of local control back in 1997, there were a bunch of provisions that were supposed to protect the autonomy of Hong Kong.
00:50:01.000 All of them have been ignored by the Chinese government.
00:50:03.000 And nobody was able to do anything because once you leave, you can't go back.
00:50:06.000 It's not like the British were going to reinvade Hong Kong.
00:50:08.000 None of that was going to happen.
00:50:10.000 And for China, the possibility of controlling Hong Kong and then waiting for a friendly administration in the EU, waiting for a friendly administration in the United States, it's a pretty rich, it's a pretty rich thing, right?
00:50:20.000 I mean, okay, so we'll take a hit for a couple years.
00:50:22.000 We're a commie country.
00:50:23.000 We have a billion citizens who we can simply exploit.
00:50:26.000 So, all right, we'll take the short-term hit in order to take control of the lives of millions of people in Hong Kong.
00:50:32.000 China's legislature has now approved a proposal, according to CNN, to impose a highly contentious national security law in Hong Kong, an unprecedented move critics say threatens fundamental political freedoms and civil liberties in Hong Kong.
00:50:42.000 By the way, if people can get out of Hong Kong, they are leaving en masse right now.
00:50:46.000 It's going to be incredible.
00:50:46.000 Watch for the wave.
00:50:47.000 The country's rubber-stamp parliament, the National People's Congress, nearly unanimously approved the resolution on Thursday to introduce the sweeping security legislation.
00:50:55.000 It bans secession, subversion of state power, terrorism, foreign intervention, and allows mainland China's state security agencies to operate in the city.
00:51:04.000 So that is full-on Communist Party control of Hong Kong.
00:51:08.000 The law drastically broadens Beijing's power over Hong Kong, which last year was roiled by anti-government protests calling for greater democracy and more autonomy from mainland China.
00:51:17.000 Protesters took to the streets and clashed with police.
00:51:20.000 The approval of the law is expected to result in more demonstrations, but nobody is actually expecting that the blowback from the world is going to stop the Chinese government.
00:51:29.000 Mike Pompeo denounced the law as a disastrous decision, the latest in a series of actions that fundamentally undermine Hong Kong's autonomy and freedoms.
00:51:36.000 He says no reasonable person can assert today that Hong Kong maintains a high degree of autonomy from China, given facts on the ground.
00:51:44.000 Under the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act, the U.S.
00:51:46.000 government has to annually verify to Congress the city remains autonomous from China, or it risks losing its special status with the United States.
00:51:52.000 It's about to lose all of its status from the United States.
00:51:56.000 There may be visa sanctions, economic sanctions against the Chinese.
00:52:00.000 There could be an end to the extradition treaty that exists between the U.S.
00:52:03.000 and Hong Kong.
00:52:05.000 And the Chinese government has yet to respond to the United States.
00:52:08.000 But they say this is China's internal affair.
00:52:10.000 Because it turns out that when China says, you know, two countries, one China, whether they say about Taiwan or whether they say about Hong Kong, what they actually mean is we are going to control this thing in top-down fashion and kill all of our opponents.
00:52:21.000 Because communism is evil and remains evil.
00:52:25.000 President Trump's foreign policy aides are discussing actions, according to the New York Times, that would be among the harshest punishments taken against China over the past three years.
00:52:32.000 These could have far-reaching consequences for the 7.5 million Hong Kong residents.
00:52:38.000 Hong Kong has been a financial and commercial hub since late last century.
00:52:41.000 Many Chinese and foreign firms use Hong Kong as an international or regional base, and a lot of elite Communist Party members do business and own property there.
00:52:49.000 Pompeo says the security law is a death knell for Hong Kong's freedom.
00:52:54.000 The United Nations is going to do nothing because of course China sits on the UN Security Council demonstrating full scale that the UN is a wretched hive of scum and villainy.
00:53:02.000 It is a garbage institution run by some of the worst countries on earth.
00:53:08.000 The president is looking not to get into a serious conflict with China, but Trump said that we are going to give a very powerful response.
00:53:16.000 Presumably, we're going to break off cooperation with trade and law enforcement.
00:53:20.000 So your prices at the market are going to go up, but honestly, we never should have opened China in the first place.
00:53:25.000 Good case to be made that we should have simply let them collapse the same way the Soviet Union collapsed, and we just put it off for 40 years.
00:53:30.000 But this has been a long time coming, and the West looked the other way.
00:53:33.000 Just like with North Korea, the West looked the other way and looked the other way and looked the other way until Hong Kong became a slave state to the Chinese government once again.
00:53:41.000 This has been going on for years.
00:53:44.000 In 2002, the Hong Kong government introduced its first proposal under Article 23 of the Basic Law that authorized the local administration to pass laws covering treason and sedition.
00:53:54.000 Okay, the Regina Ip was the then security secretary.
00:53:57.000 She was a proponent of the bill.
00:53:58.000 She pledged in 2017 to enact Article 23 in suitable measure.
00:54:02.000 So five years, literally five years removed from the Hong Kong Treaty, China was already trying to institute full security control over Hong Kong.
00:54:12.000 So it's just...
00:54:14.000 It took a while, but Hong Kong has now become, again, it's tragic.
00:54:19.000 I mean, what we're watching right now is absolute tragedy, and again, demonstrative of the idea that when the United States, when the EU, when liberal powers leave, those spaces are filled by other people.
00:54:30.000 Power politics abhors a vacuum.
00:54:32.000 And China was always going to be checked only by the willingness to utilize American power.
00:54:37.000 I'm not talking military power, I'm talking economic power and all other elements to protect people.
00:54:41.000 But apparently they're not going to.
00:54:44.000 I have serious doubts that any action is going to be taken by the EU in coordination with the United States here.
00:54:48.000 Okay, time for some other things that I hate.
00:54:52.000 Andrew Cuomo is a flaming dumpster fire of a governor.
00:54:55.000 He's an awful, awful governor.
00:54:56.000 So Andrew Cuomo continues to preside over a state that had the worst outcomes from COVID-19.
00:55:03.000 He continues to clash with Mayor Bill de Blasio.
00:55:05.000 They still can't decide on a unified policy.
00:55:07.000 He continues to sort of futz his way through this thing, but because he's on TV a lot, Then he has very high popularity ratings.
00:55:13.000 And now he's going to blame everybody else for his own stupid leadership.
00:55:16.000 So yesterday, Andrew Cuomo was asked about the fact that a huge percentage of New Yorkers have died in nursing homes.
00:55:20.000 Now, New York is lying about this because when New York does, when you talk about undercounting, what New York does is if you are from a nursing home and you get COVID-19, then they actually suggest that you are not from a nursing home if you die in a hospital.
00:55:31.000 So you get COVID-19, you're at a nursing home, you're shipped to a hospital, you die in the hospital.
00:55:34.000 New York does not count that as a nursing home death.
00:55:37.000 But you obtained it at the nursing home.
00:55:39.000 So it's a nursing home death.
00:55:40.000 But New York doesn't say that.
00:55:42.000 So they've been dramatically under-counting nursing home deaths.
00:55:44.000 As we all know, for months, only relieved in, like, the last couple of weeks, New York had a policy, and the policy was that nursing homes were forced, by law, to re-accept people with COVID-19.
00:55:54.000 Here was Andrew Cuomo yesterday blaming the nursing homes themselves for a law that he himself had promulgated.
00:55:59.000 The obligation is on the nursing home to say, I can't take a COVID positive person.
00:56:05.000 I'm too crowded.
00:56:05.000 I'm too busy.
00:56:06.000 I don't have enough PPE.
00:56:08.000 Whatever the answer is, it doesn't even matter.
00:56:11.000 If they say I can't take the person, they can't take the person.
00:56:18.000 I'm sorry, you are the world's worst governor.
00:56:21.000 And blaming everybody else for the fact that you are awful is pretty amazing.
00:56:26.000 Meanwhile, that's not where Cuomo stops.
00:56:27.000 So Cuomo is now looking, basically, he's the handout governor.
00:56:31.000 That's what he is.
00:56:32.000 I need ventilators.
00:56:33.000 President Trump, make it happen.
00:56:34.000 I need PPE.
00:56:35.000 President Trump, make it happen.
00:56:36.000 Now it's, I need money.
00:56:37.000 Federal government, make it happen.
00:56:39.000 Maybe it's because you guys are running like hundreds of billions of dollars in debt because you've been passing crappy fiscal policy for decades on end.
00:56:44.000 Maybe that would be your big problem.
00:56:46.000 So Cuomo yesterday, he said, there's no national recovery without a federal government bailout.
00:56:50.000 Or alternatively, you could take austerity measures that you always should have taken instead of signing garbage contracts with your local unions.
00:56:56.000 Here was Andrew Cuomo blaming the federal government again.
00:56:59.000 It's very easy.
00:56:59.000 God, it's got to be easy to be a Democrat.
00:57:01.000 All you got to do is blame the Republican president for everything on earth.
00:57:04.000 And the media just goes right along with it.
00:57:05.000 This dude has an 80% approval rating and he has presided over, what, one quarter of all deaths in America from COVID-19?
00:57:14.000 You want to talk about Trump being a crappy president because 100,000 people have died?
00:57:16.000 How about the fact that this dumbass was shipping old people back to nursing homes with COVID-19, not disinfecting the subways, not shutting down the subways, and then whining about the fact that he wasn't doing his job and getting resources for his own state.
00:57:28.000 Somehow Governor Gavin Newsom here in California got resources for the state.
00:57:31.000 Here was Andrew Cuomo blaming the federal government again.
00:57:35.000 States are doing reopening, states are responsible for testing, states are responsible for tracing, states are responsible for the healthcare system, states are responsible for the enforcement of all the procedures around reopening.
00:57:50.000 But, at the same time, the federal government has a role to play, and the federal government has to do its part.
00:57:58.000 as we work our way through this crisis.
00:58:01.000 And there cannot be a national recovery if the state and local governments are not funded.
00:58:09.000 That is a fact.
00:58:12.000 No, it actually can be a national recovery if the state and local governments acted responsibly in the first place.
00:58:17.000 You blew out the credit card, then you had an unforeseen expense, and now you're blaming people for not filling in the part of the bill that you incurred in the first place.
00:58:25.000 Cuomo wouldn't let this one go.
00:58:26.000 He said, it's un-American not to bail out the states.
00:58:29.000 Un-American!
00:58:30.000 You're a bad American if you don't feel like we should fill in all of the pension gaps in Andrew Cuomo's crappy budget.
00:58:36.000 You have people saying, well, we don't want to pass a bill that helps democratic states.
00:58:44.000 It would be a blue state bailout, is what some have said.
00:58:50.000 Senator McConnell, stopping blue state bailouts.
00:58:55.000 This is really an ugly, ugly sentiment.
00:59:01.000 It is an un-American response.
00:59:04.000 We're still the United States of America.
00:59:07.000 Those words meant something.
00:59:10.000 Yeah, they didn't mean that the federal government was supposed to fill in your crappy governance.
00:59:14.000 By the way, it's hilarious to me.
00:59:15.000 It's an ugly, un-American response to say it's a blue state bailout.
00:59:17.000 Weird, because five seconds ago, you were implying that the net recipients of tax benefits were people in red states.
00:59:22.000 Literally, he said that like four weeks ago.
00:59:24.000 But this guy, he's the worst governor.
00:59:27.000 He's a terrible governor.
00:59:29.000 I am enjoying states' right to Andrew Cuomo.
00:59:32.000 Because states' right to Andrew Cuomo is at war with, I want the federal government to do everything for me, Andrew Cuomo.
00:59:37.000 So at the same time that he's saying, I have authority to run my state, Bill de Blasio doesn't have authority, Donald Trump doesn't have authority, he's saying...
00:59:43.000 Daddy Trump, please fill in.
00:59:45.000 Please give me my allowance.
00:59:46.000 I want my allowance right now.
00:59:47.000 So at the same time he's saying there's no nation without the states, he's suggesting that it's the job of the nation to fill in the states.
00:59:52.000 You can't have it both ways.
00:59:53.000 Do you want to be treated as an autonomous being, or would you prefer to be treated as a dependent?
00:59:58.000 Because you don't have that, you don't get it both ways.
00:59:58.000 Pick.
01:00:00.000 Here was Andrew Cuomo trying to have it both ways.
01:00:03.000 State governments, state economies, local economies, that's what the national economy is made of.
01:00:11.000 What is the national economy but for a function of the states?
01:00:18.000 There is no nation without the states.
01:00:24.000 They tend to forget that in this town, but it's the obvious fact.
01:00:30.000 There's no nation without the states.
01:00:31.000 Okay, so you're going to have to explain to me how the nation is then supposed... If there's no nation without the states, and the nation is refusing to recognize your state, then why does the nation have money?
01:00:43.000 Like, really, that's a question.
01:00:45.000 The money isn't funneled through the states.
01:00:47.000 The money is taken directly from citizens.
01:00:49.000 The nation does exist in the absence of the states at this point, thanks to a federal bureaucracy built up over the course of the last 120 years.
01:00:54.000 But, with that said, it also happens to be the case that the job of the federal government was not created to bail out the states from their bad financial decision-making.
01:01:01.000 How this guy hasn't, like... What happened to New Yorkers?
01:01:05.000 Hello?
01:01:05.000 McFly?
01:01:06.000 Hello?
01:01:08.000 How do you guys think this guy's a good governor?
01:01:10.000 How?
01:01:11.000 I'm very, very confused.
01:01:12.000 Just because his last name is Cuomo?
01:01:14.000 I'm so sick of political families in the United States.
01:01:16.000 It's very, very tiresome.
01:01:18.000 All right, so, New York, well done.
01:01:21.000 You've selected the world's greatest governor.
01:01:22.000 Okay, well, I think we've run out of time for things that I like.
01:01:26.000 Tomorrow is a Jewish holiday, so I will be back here on Monday.
01:01:30.000 Please try not to wreck America further, people.
01:01:33.000 If we could just like cut it out, that'd be amazing.
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