The Ben Shapiro Show - November 16, 2017


Now We Find Out Whether The Democrats Will Run For Cover | Ep. 419

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Roy Moore Hillary Clinton Donald Trump Al Franken Steve Mnuchin Doug Jones Mitch McConnell Gloria Allred Jeremy Renner Kirsten Gillibrand Elizabeth Olsen Luther Strange Jeff Sessions Taylor Sheridan Louise Linton Weinstein Beverly Young Nelson Bob Menendez Sean Hannity Barack Obama and 41 more
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The flaming garbage fire that is American politics continues to flame away, and Al Franken has been caught in the blaze. Plus, we ll talk about the latest with Roy Moore, and Bob Menendez s jury is deadlocked, so the news comes fast and furious and crappy. This is The Ben Shapiro Show, where somebody says, the bleep hits the fan, and there s actually a picture of poop hitting the fan. And that s pretty much everyday in American politics now. When I say that it s a garbage fire, I mean that outside this door is a raging dumpster fire, and the smell just wafts through the building and that is coming directly from Washington D.C. and Hollywood, and it s just all garbage, and everyone is garbage and they are coming from the same place, and that s all garbage and that's why they are garbage. Today's show is a short summary of today's breaking news, but there is much more! We'll talk about all of the breaking news today, including: 1. Al Franken is now being accused by an LA anchor. 2. Texas Justice Don Willett is ripping him up and down because he had once tweeted something about how he liked bacon. 3. Leigh Ann Tweeden says she didn t have a problem with Al Franken s sexual advances on her. 4. A woman accused Al Franken of groping her during a USO performance, and he insisted they rehearse everything leading up to the kiss. 5. She says she did it. 6. It's just to show that this stuff is a common occurrence. 7. She didn t do it right, right? 8. She did it by her mouth. 9. She said she didn't have a tongue in her mouth by me? And so on and so on... The rest is pretty much it's just a hook by me, so I didn t even have to go there, right by the hook by her?? That means it's not by her ... Yeah, so does she do that, right, she did that by her? And she's not letting me hook by my mouth by her or by her nose by her tongue by me or she did this by her or she's just by her ass by my nose by my tongue by her... And that means she's off the hook, by her butt by her back, by my ass? ...

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00:00:00.000 All right, the flaming garbage fire that is American politics continues to flame away, and Al Franken has been caught in the blaze. 0.68
00:00:07.000 Plus, we'll talk about the latest with Roy Moore. 0.96
00:00:10.000 And Bob Menendez's jury is deadlocked, so the news comes fast and furious and crappy.
00:00:14.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:14.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:21.000 Here's that shot in Airplane, where somebody says, the bleep hits the fan, and there's actually a picture of poop hitting fan.
00:00:26.000 And that's pretty much everyday in American politics now.
00:00:29.000 When I say that it's a garbage fire, I mean that outside this door is a raging dumpster fire, and the smell just wafts through the building.
00:00:36.000 And that is coming directly from Washington D.C. 0.99
00:00:39.000 and from Hollywood, and it's just all garbage. 1.00
00:00:41.000 And everyone is garbage, and that's the short summary of today's show, but there's much more. 0.99
00:00:45.000 We'll talk about all of the breaking news. 0.98
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00:01:55.000 So I do have a big announcement coming momentarily about my speech tour.
00:01:59.000 And no, it's not like a big announcement like Trump's big announcement about his Asian tour, which was basically him announcing which Chinese restaurants he'd eaten at in China.
00:02:07.000 It's actually a really big announcement.
00:02:08.000 We'll do that in just a moment.
00:02:09.000 But first, the news.
00:02:10.000 So, the news today. 0.99
00:02:12.000 Al Franken likes grabbing boobs. 0.99
00:02:15.000 Really. 0.99
00:02:15.000 Like, this is the news today. 0.99
00:02:16.000 So Al Franken is now being accused by an LA anchor
00:02:20.000 We're good to go. 0.73
00:02:45.000 Ripping him up and down because Texas Justice Don Willett, who is very funny on Twitter, had once tweeted something about how he wanted to legalize marriage to Bacon because he liked Bacon so much, and Al Franken thought that this was a slap at the gay community somehow, which is weird because gay people aren't Bacon.
00:02:59.000 But in any case, Al Franken...
00:03:01.000 Apparently, sexually harassed slash assaulted Leigh-Anne Tweeden, she said, in an essay, she describes her encounter with Franken, whom she says used comedy as an excuse to be inappropriate.
00:03:11.000 Because comedians in Hollywood apparently are all inappropriate, from Louis C.K.
00:03:16.000 to David Letterman, Tweeden, a former model, was on her ninth tour with the USO and expected to be the event MC, but quickly discovered that Franken had penned a special skit for her to perform with him, and he'd included a kiss that he insisted they practice beforehand.
00:03:27.000 So here is the actual essay, quote,
00:03:30.000 He repeated that actors really need to rehearse everything, and that we must practice the kiss.
00:03:33.000 I said, okay, so he would stop badgering me.
00:03:35.000 We did the line leading up to the kiss, and then he came at me, put his hand on the back of my head, gnashed his lips against mine, and aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth.
00:03:42.000 Hey, first of all, you know, that is sexual assault, but I will say that every actor in Hollywood has apparently done this to every actress in Hollywood.
00:03:51.000 Like, talk to any actress in this town, you'll see this is a very common occurrence.
00:03:53.000 This is not letting Al Franken off the hook by any means.
00:03:56.000 It's just to show you that in Hollywood, this stuff is
00:03:58.000 Okay.
00:04:13.000 She says she didn't report Franken's behavior or the alleged assault of superiors, but did her best to stay out of Franken's way the rest of the tour.
00:04:19.000 He repaid her, she says, by peppering her with insults and drawing devil horns on pictures she signed for the troops.
00:04:24.000 Then, on the flight home, as Tweeden slept in her Kevlar vest and helmet, she says Franken groped her while he posed for this photo.
00:04:30.000 Yeah, there is a senator from Minnesota groping or attempting to grope a sleeping woman.
00:04:36.000 Just all class is Senator Al Franken.
00:04:39.000 And she says,
00:04:41.000 I couldn't believe me.
00:04:42.000 I couldn't believe it.
00:04:43.000 He groped me without my consent while I was asleep.
00:04:45.000 I felt violated all over again, embarrassed, belittled, humiliated. 0.68
00:04:48.000 How dare anyone grab my breast like this and think it's funny?
00:04:51.000 I told my husband everything that happened and showed him the picture.
00:04:53.000 She claimed she was too scared to complain, worried about the potential backlash and possibility that lobbying a sexual harassment allegation against a famous comedian...
00:05:00.000 But every percussion is her career, which it would.
00:05:02.000 The way that it works in Hollywood, because Hollywood is a scummy place, is that if you complain about sexual harassment, no one will hire you ever again.
00:05:09.000 This is reality.
00:05:10.000 And it's horrifying.
00:05:12.000 It's really disgusting. 0.99
00:05:13.000 You're considered hard to put up with, you're considered somebody who doesn't get it and isn't cool in Hollywood, if you don't put up with men acting like pervs, or anyone acting like a perv. 0.99
00:05:22.000 If somebody gropes you and you say anything about it, this makes you a prude in Hollywood. 0.95
00:05:25.000 Seriously.
00:05:27.000 Al Franken has now responded to the allegations, saying he sends his sincerest apologies and that the photo was, quote, clearly intended to be funny.
00:05:34.000 Oh boy.
00:05:35.000 He says, I certainly don't remember the rehearsal for the skit in the same way, but I send my sincerest apologies to Leanne.
00:05:39.000 As to the photo, it was clearly intended to be funny, but wasn't.
00:05:42.000 I shouldn't have done it.
00:05:43.000 Al Franken is in serious poo-poo now.
00:05:45.000 He's in serious trouble. 0.95
00:05:46.000 We're about to find out whether Democrats are flaming hypocrites because they, of course, have been calling for Roy Moore to be expelled from the Senate. 0.90
00:05:52.000 If you were elected, and for every Republican to distance themselves from Roy Moore, the Senate Republican from Alabama. 0.90
00:05:58.000 Quick correction I want to make on the show.
00:05:59.000 So I keep saying for the last two days, the snot has addled my brain from this cold. 0.57
00:06:03.000 But I kept saying that Richard Burr was the Senator from Alabama.
00:06:05.000 It's Richard Shelby, of course.
00:06:07.000 In any case...
00:06:08.000 The Democrats have been calling for Roy Moore to step down.
00:06:12.000 Anyone who does not call for Roy Moore to step down is obviously horrifying.
00:06:16.000 But are they saying the same things about Al Franken?
00:06:19.000 Well, we know that several of the senators have been running away from questions about this.
00:06:24.000 They've been legitimately running from the press.
00:06:27.000 And that makes perfect sense, because none of this matters to you if it's a member of your own political party.
00:06:34.000 Right?
00:06:35.000 There's a bunch of... Sasha Stone is a writer over at, I guess, Awards Daily. 0.99
00:06:42.000 And she said, If someone did this to my wife, I'd punch them in the face. 1.00
00:06:52.000 How's that? 0.99
00:06:53.000 I think this is a pretty good standard, right?
00:06:54.000 I think this is a good standard for sexual harassment slash sexual assault. 0.99
00:06:57.000 If someone did this to your wife, would you punch them in the face if you're a dude? 0.99
00:06:59.000 Or if you're a girl, would you feel like you should punch them in the face? 0.97
00:07:02.000 If the answer is yes, then it's probably, I feel like that's a pretty good standard. 0.52
00:07:06.000 So, Jean Shaheen, right, the Democrat from New Hampshire, she said, quote, I'm a member of the ethics committee, so I can't comment.
00:07:14.000 Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho.
00:07:16.000 So I guess this is how it's gonna go now, right?
00:07:18.000 Women, Democratic women, not quite standing by other women.
00:07:22.000 I guess I'd heard that Gillibrand says that, quote, so now Kirsten Gillibrand has said that the allegations against Franklin are deeply disturbing, says she believes the woman who accused him.
00:07:34.000 It's pretty astonishing stuff.
00:07:36.000 This is the state of American politics now.
00:07:38.000 So I have a proposal to fix all of this.
00:07:40.000 It's actually two proposals.
00:07:42.000 So proposal number one is that we should actually just have all the Congress people stay home.
00:07:48.000 I think the remote voting is the best solution to this.
00:07:50.000 So all of these senators should be forced to live in the districts from which they spring and live at home with their wives and their husbands. 0.90
00:07:56.000 This is the way that sexual harassment would, I think, be minimized. 0.99
00:08:00.000 Not because these people aren't scumbags when they're in their home district, but because Washington DC is a scummy place filled with scummy people. 0.98
00:08:07.000 The other way we can do this is it's time for, I think, Robot Congress. 0.97
00:08:09.000 So I think we need to elect robots to Congress.
00:08:12.000 Maybe that's a little extreme. 0.99
00:08:14.000 But in any case, we will see whether the Democrats are giant hypocrites or whether the Democrats are not giant hypocrites in very, very short order. 0.98
00:08:20.000 Obviously, some are and some aren't. 0.96
00:08:22.000 What's funny about this is that Democrats really don't have any risk in getting rid of Franken.
00:08:25.000 If they get rid of Franken, the governor of Minnesota right now is a Democrat.
00:08:29.000 So Democrats don't have much to worry about.
00:08:39.000 By Matt Iglesias' logic yesterday at Vox.com, they have no excuse not to get rid of him.
00:08:44.000 I do also want to do this flashback because you're seeing a lot of Democrats these days talk about how the Clintons should go, and it's time for Bill Clinton to go, and now they're all hot and bothered about sexual harassment.
00:08:55.000 I am excited.
00:08:56.000 I will say this.
00:08:57.000 I'm excited that Roy Moore is now forcing all Democrats to be consistent about sexual harassment, right?
00:09:03.000 This is the only reason why they're pretending to care about Al Franken.
00:09:05.000 I don't think they deeply care about Al Franken. 0.99
00:09:07.000 They certainly didn't care about Bill Clinton being a disgusting piece of garbage until the last five minutes or so. 0.99
00:09:12.000 This is the last year, I believe, Joy Behar saying that Bill Clinton's accusers were framps on national television. 0.99
00:09:17.000 I wonder if she missed the opportunity to address it in a way that the public would understand.
00:09:23.000 That that's just not how you behave.
00:09:27.000 I would like to apologize to those tramps that have slept with my husband. 1.00
00:09:32.000 Okay, so she's calling all of them tramps, right? 0.96
00:09:35.000 This is until the last five minutes.
00:09:36.000 Now it's believe the women, believe the women. 0.98
00:09:37.000 The only reason the Democrats are saying this, of course, is because they want Roy Moore gone.
00:09:41.000 The networks, if you remember during the last election cycle, when Donald Trump brought up all of the accusers against Bill Clinton, the networks attacked Trump for having the temerity to bring up these accusers.
00:09:49.000 Donald Trump proving nothing is off limits.
00:09:53.000 Dramatically intensifying his attacks on former President Bill Clinton's history with women.
00:09:59.000 I looked at the New York Times.
00:10:00.000 Are they going to interview Juanita Broderick?
00:10:02.000 Are they going to interview Paula Jones?
00:10:04.000 Are they going to interview Kathleen Willey?
00:10:06.000 In one case, it's about exposure.
00:10:08.000 In another case, it's about groping and fondling and touching against a woman's will. 0.99
00:10:12.000 And rape. 1.00
00:10:13.000 And rape. 1.00
00:10:14.000 The rape accusation is decades old and discredited.
00:10:20.000 They were referring to a trio of women who say Bill Clinton made unwanted sexual advances in the 80s and 90s.
00:10:30.000 Mr. Clinton denies it.
00:10:32.000 Two of the cases were plagued by factual discrepancies.
00:10:35.000 Still, the accusations linger and will be a focus of GOP ads against Hillary Clinton.
00:10:41.000 Okay, so look how the media was downplaying all this until two seconds ago when Bill Clinton's desiccated political body was thrown right under that train because now it's time to get Republicans.
00:10:51.000 Really amazing how this is happening.
00:10:52.000 Now listen, if inadvertently we end up raising our standards for politicians because everybody is so focused on getting rid of the other guy that they're forced to abide by their own standards,
00:11:00.000 Maybe something good comes out of this.
00:11:01.000 Maybe we actually all have new standards.
00:11:04.000 I don't think that's what's going to happen, though.
00:11:05.000 I think that this'll be a five-minute break from partisan politics dominating, and then we'll go right back to being terrible about electing terrible people. 0.93
00:11:16.000 I mean, remember, Democrats were so insane back in the 90s over this thing that Bill Clinton, who was a perjurer and a sexual molester, Bill Clinton was applauded by Democrats. 0.91
00:11:25.000 After he was impeached, Democrats came to the White House and they gave him a standing ovation. 0.84
00:11:29.000 I ask the American people to move with me, to go on from here, to rise above the rancor, to overcome the pain and division, to be a repairer of the breach, all of us, to make this country as one America what it can and must be for our children in the new century about to dawn.
00:11:52.000 Thank you very much.
00:11:55.000 This is literally after he was impeached by the House.
00:11:57.000 They're all standing there clapping for him.
00:11:59.000 The reason that I bring this up is not whataboutism.
00:12:01.000 I've been calling for Roy Moore to step down on Fox News yesterday.
00:12:04.000 I said that Roy Moore should step down on Fox and Friends.
00:12:06.000 So President Trump's favorite show.
00:12:07.000 I said directly on that show that Roy Moore should absolutely step down from his Senate run.
00:12:13.000 So what aboutism only applies if you say that you're excusing Roy Moore's behavior because of Bill Clinton.
00:12:17.000 The reason that I'm bringing up Bill Clinton is because I believe that the standard for American politicians was set in the 1990s and that has been the consistent standard all the way until now.
00:12:25.000 And so if Democrats want to get rid of Roy Moore and this is going to force them to get rid of Al Franken too, good.
00:12:30.000 Good.
00:12:31.000 Now, with all of that said, I do think that we should be careful about what exactly are the standards for sexual harassment and sexual assault.
00:12:37.000 Like, we actually have a picture of Al Franken, you know, purporting to grab a woman's breasts while she's sleeping.
00:12:42.000 That's pretty bad stuff.
00:12:43.000 I want to make sure that the allegations that we see are credible.
00:12:46.000 The reason that I said that more is, I mean, that picture is a picture, I mean, come on, there's a picture for you.
00:12:50.000 But if it, but...
00:12:51.000 The reason that I've said that Roy Moore should step down is because the allegations are credible.
00:12:54.000 When Ted Cruz, for example, during his campaign was accused to have slept with a bunch of his campaign aides, the allegations were not credible because there were no names that were named, all of the women denied it, there was not any corresponding information.
00:13:08.000 I remember during the campaign, there was a rape allegation that the media were not widely reporting against Donald Trump, and that's because the accuser's story basically fell apart pretty quickly.
00:13:18.000 So, the allegations have to be credible, but with that said, I think that if our new standard is that credible allegations are treated as, we don't want these people anywhere near the levers of power, I think that's a good thing.
00:13:30.000 Maybe inadvertently we'll stumble into something better here.
00:13:32.000 Okay, so, before I go any further, and I do have a big announcement about my college lecture tour in just a moment, first I want to say thank you to our sponsors over at Birch Gold.
00:13:39.000 So, right now, if it feels like the economy is doing really well, but it still feels like it might be a little bit inflated, and you think that maybe the stock market's going to take a dive sometime in here,
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00:14:07.000 Okay, so here's the big announcement that I've been teasing a little bit here.
00:14:34.000 So my college tour is ramping up next year.
00:14:37.000 We've spoken at 30, 35 college campuses over the last couple of years.
00:14:40.000 And now I'm announcing that we are partnering exclusively with Young America's Foundation.
00:14:44.000 They've sponsored many of my campus tours for my 2018-2019 campus tour.
00:14:49.000 And thanks to Fred Allen, who is one of the, who's the biggest sponsor.
00:14:52.000 All right.
00:15:07.000 I mean, literally dozens of requests every single day.
00:15:12.000 And because of how many YAF receives on their end, we've now been working to set up a formal application process.
00:15:16.000 So for all the college students who want to bring me, going live today, there's an application and info page at yaf.org slash benshapirotour.
00:15:23.000 That's yaf.org slash benshapirotour.
00:15:25.000 We lay out all the necessary steps and info needed to order a request hosting an event.
00:15:31.000 Because of my crazy schedule, we're actually limiting next year's tour to 12 campuses, so be fast about this.
00:15:35.000 Be sure to follow all the steps in the application, and present a good proposal for why you think your school should be one of the 12.
00:15:41.000 Check out yaf.org slash benshapirotour, that's yaf.org slash benshapirotour to submit an application, and that will allow us to get back to you faster as well.
00:15:49.000 Okay, so...
00:15:51.000 Meanwhile, while all of this is going on in the Senate, the continuing saga of Roy Moore continues apace.
00:15:58.000 And I want to talk about some of the solutions to Roy Moore's saga, but one of the things I find really kind of gross about the way that sexual allegations are treated, it's gross in two aspects.
00:16:10.000 One is that sexual allegations without any other corroborating proof, if you say, show me some corroborating evidence, people go nuts.
00:16:18.000 And if you say there is corroborating evidence, now you have to show me why it's not true.
00:16:22.000 People go nuts.
00:16:23.000 So, there's no solution, right?
00:16:25.000 Roy Moore's lawyers put out a defense yesterday that was so weak and so strained, and yet people are hanging their hat on this peg.
00:16:32.000 I remember that during the campaign, there was some of this with regard to President Trump, and I remember with Bill Clinton, there was some of the same sort of stuff.
00:16:39.000 With regard to Trump, I recall that there was an allegation that Trump had sexually assaulted a woman on a plane, and people were going back and trying to figure out whether the arm rests on that kind of plane went up or down.
00:16:51.000 And this was supposed to be used as proof that Trump had never done any of this?
00:16:55.000 I'm seeing something similar happening with Roy Moore.
00:16:57.000 The question you have to ask yourself is whether these allegations are credible.
00:17:01.000 Now, you can still make the case, and I'm getting letters from people in Alabama who are saying, listen, I'm not going to vote for Doug Jones.
00:17:05.000 I don't want you to vote for Doug Jones.
00:17:07.000 I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton, right? 0.94
00:17:09.000 I thought that Donald Trump was kind of a scuzz.
00:17:11.000 I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton.
00:17:12.000 I'm not saying you have to vote for Doug Jones.
00:17:14.000 I'm saying now is the time for all of you folks to be planning a write-in campaign for somebody who is not credibly accused of child molestation.
00:17:20.000 Is that a terrible idea?
00:17:21.000 Is that a horrible idea?
00:17:22.000 Now, I didn't vote at the top of the ticket.
00:17:24.000 I think it's possible to do that, too.
00:17:26.000 I understand why you don't want Doug Jones in the Senate.
00:17:28.000 I don't want him in the Senate, either.
00:17:30.000 I don't want a pro-abortion Democrat in the Senate. 0.80
00:17:32.000 But that does not mean that we get to brush off accusations that are like this.
00:17:35.000 So, let's go through Moore's lawyer's defense because this is pretty bad.
00:17:40.000 There are a couple more allegations, by the way.
00:17:42.000 That Moore groped people.
00:17:43.000 There are two new accusers who are suggesting that Moore was harassing them.
00:17:47.000 One of them was a high school girl who said that when Moore was in his 30s, he called up her high school, pulled her out of trig class to ask her on a date.
00:17:53.000 Which he, like, called the principal's office and said, can I speak to X?
00:17:56.000 And the girl went to the office and she said, what's up?
00:17:59.000 And he said, I want to ask you on a date.
00:18:00.000 What are you doing?
00:18:00.000 She said, I'm in trig class right now.
00:18:04.000 Okay, in any case, Moore's lawyer... Let's say his legal team is not the strongest.
00:18:10.000 And when I say not the strongest, I mean it's really quite terrible.
00:18:13.000 Like, I don't know whether he went to the... His lawyers went to the My Cousin Vinny School of Lawyering, but they don't have the street smarts of Joe Pesci.
00:18:20.000 Here is...
00:18:22.000 Okay, in any case, here was Roy Moore's attorney.
00:18:25.000 At a certain point, you just have to laugh at this stuff because we are so down the rabbit hole, folks.
00:18:29.000 I mean, we are in Alice in Wonderland, and here is Roy Moore's lawyer yesterday trying to make excuses for Roy Moore attempting to date girls who were like 15 or 16 years old in Alabama in 1979.
00:18:42.000 He's talking to a...
00:18:49.000 What does Allie's background have to do with dating a 14-year-old?
00:19:12.000 I'm not finished with the context of it.
00:19:15.000 Please answer.
00:19:16.000 What does Ali Velshi's background have to do with dating under children, 14-year-old girls?
00:19:23.000 Sure.
00:19:23.000 In other countries, there's arrangement through parents for what we would refer to as consensual marriage.
00:19:30.000 Ali's from Canada.
00:19:30.000 Ali's from Canada.
00:19:31.000 I understand that.
00:19:32.000 And Ali's also spent time in other countries, of which I've gone to, so it's not a bad thing.
00:19:37.000 I don't know where you're going with this strategy.
00:19:39.000 But here's the answer to your question.
00:19:42.000 Yeah, in Canada they have a real record of people trying to hit up 14-year-olds.
00:19:46.000 I love that.
00:19:51.000 By the way, there are countries where child marriage is a thing.
00:19:53.000 They're not civilized Western countries.
00:19:56.000 Like, my wife's grandmother was married, I think, when she was 13.
00:19:59.000 I think the story about her is that she went out and played jump rope at her wedding. 0.50
00:20:04.000 Like, that's not good.
00:20:06.000 Okay, like, it worked out in the long run, but yee-yee-yee-yee, right?
00:20:10.000 I mean, that just—this is why Western civilization is a superior place, okay?
00:20:13.000 Western civilization is a wonderful place because we don't have 30-year-old men who are trying to knock up 14-year-old girls.
00:20:18.000 So, Moore's Lawyer is not doing a particularly wonderful job.
00:20:23.000 And then,
00:20:25.000 Last night, or the night before last night, you remember Sean Hannity on Fox News basically gave a 24-hour ultimatum to Roy Moore.
00:20:31.000 And the ultimatum was, I need you to credibly show me why these accusations are false, or you need to get out of the race. 0.88
00:20:38.000 So Roy Moore sent an open letter to Sean Hannity.
00:20:41.000 And the open letter is not particularly good.
00:20:44.000 So the open letter says,
00:20:46.000 Dear Sean, I am suffering the same treatment other Republicans have had to endure.
00:20:50.000 A month prior to the general election for U.S.
00:20:52.000 Senate in Alabama, I have been attacked by the Washington Post and other liberal media in a desperate attempt to smear my character and defeat my campaign, and then he talks at length about how wonderful he is.
00:21:01.000 He repeats that he's been married for a long time and has grandkids, et cetera, et cetera.
00:21:04.000 And then he says, we are in the process of investigating these false allegations to determine their origin and motivation.
00:21:09.000 For instance, we have documented that the most recent accuser, Beverly Nelson, was a party in a divorce action before me in Etowah County Circuit Court in 1999.
00:21:16.000 No motion was made for me to recuse.
00:21:18.000 Okay, so there's a problem with this particular allegation by Roy Moore, which is that the actual judge who was assigned to this case was not Roy Moore.
00:21:24.000 Roy Moore signed, I think, one document at the very, very end of the case.
00:21:27.000 She never sat in a courtroom with Roy Moore apparently.
00:21:29.000 In her accusations, Nelson did not mention I was the judge assigned to her in the divorce case in 1999.
00:21:33.000 Because he wasn't, apparently.
00:21:35.000 A matter that apparently caused her no distress at a time that was 18 years closer to the alleged assault.
00:21:39.000 Yet 18 years later, while talking before the cameras about this supposed assault, she seemingly could not contain her emotions.
00:21:45.000 And she says, my signature on the order of dismissal in the divorce case was annotated with the letters DA, representing the initials of my court assistant.
00:21:51.000 Well, again, one of the problems is that apparently his actual court assistant of record did not have those initials at that time.
00:21:56.000 So, very weak defense from Judge Roy Moore in this letter to Sean Hannity trying to convince him not to throw him overboard.
00:22:07.000 And then he trotted out his lawyers to say that the signature in the yearbook is a fraud.
00:22:12.000 Remember, we played the tape of the signature in the yearbook, the accuser showing the signature in the yearbook from Roy Moore, and then his attorney said it was a fraud.
00:22:19.000 I'm going to show you the tape of the attorney.
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00:23:57.000 Okay, so, here is Roy Moore's lawyer saying the signature is a fraud.
00:24:02.000 A fraud!
00:24:03.000 Here we go.
00:24:04.000 So right now, Trenton Garment, our attorney, has sent a letter or is sending a letter to Gloria Allred demanding that the yearbook be released.
00:24:13.000 There are a couple things that you need to look at.
00:24:14.000 Look at the 1977 after Merry Christmas.
00:24:18.000 Look at those two sevens. 0.58
00:24:20.000 And then look below at the 77.
00:24:22.000 And I want to ask you, do you think it was written by the same person?
00:24:27.000 I want you to look at Old Hickory House, which they say Judge Moore wrote.
00:24:33.000 Judge Moore says there's no way in the world that's his handwriting.
00:24:37.000 Okay, so now we're going to go into handwriting analysis, which is really a pretty weird form of analysis.
00:24:43.000 It's always very questionable.
00:24:45.000 And so then, just to make things worse, Gloria Allred, as I said before, Gloria Allred is not the most credible human.
00:24:51.000 Okay, and the fact that Gloria Allred continues to be part of this case does not help anybody.
00:24:58.000 So Gloria Allred is asked, okay, so why don't you turn over the yearbook to some neutral third-party authority?
00:25:02.000 She says, I'll turn it over to the Senate.
00:25:04.000 And then she's asked, is the allegation that this was forged real or not?
00:25:08.000 And she refuses to answer that question, which is just granting flame to the fire, which is what Allred wants, by the way.
00:25:12.000 The real reason that Gloria Allred is doing this is not because this is some sort of tacit admission that the yearbook is a fake.
00:25:18.000 Okay, the reason that she is doing this is because
00:25:21.000 She wants the Senate hearing so she can grandstand. 1.00
00:25:23.000 And she's going to do anything possible to get the Senate hearing so she can grandstand. 0.55
00:25:26.000 That's what's going on here with Gloria Allred.
00:25:29.000 We will allow all of this to be asked and answered at the hearing.
00:25:35.000 But that's not a flat denial, Gloria.
00:25:38.000 Well, all I'm saying is, we're not denying, we're not admitting, we're not addressing, we will not be distracted, and we will pursue a just result for our clients.
00:25:51.000 Okay, thank you, Lori Allred, for throwing more gasoline on the flames of conspiracy theories.
00:25:54.000 We're going to have Sheriff Joe Arpaio actually create an investigatory committee after they figure out whether Obama was indeed born in Kenya and the birth certificate is a fake.
00:26:02.000 We're going to find out also whether this yearbook was actually signed in Kenya by Ted Cruz's father after murdering JFK.
00:26:08.000 I'm very excited to find all of this out.
00:26:11.000 All of this is just blech.
00:26:13.000 But here's what's happening.
00:26:14.000 So because all you have to do now in order to doubt an allegation is basically throw any sort of doubt out there. 0.98
00:26:20.000 So now Moore is trying to turn this into, and a lot of his allies are trying to turn this into, if you don't support Roy Moore, it's because you're a cuck. 0.99
00:26:27.000 If you don't support Roy Moore, it's because you're a weakling. 0.99
00:26:29.000 It's because you're a pansy and you just want to see the Senate seat lost. 1.00
00:26:32.000 I'm not the one losing the Senate seat right now, dude. 0.87
00:26:34.000 You're the one losing the Senate seat.
00:26:36.000 The NRSC released a poll.
00:26:38.000 I don't quite believe it.
00:26:39.000 It says that Doug Jones is up 12 points.
00:26:40.000 I don't think that's right, but this is a much closer race than it should be.
00:26:43.000 Larry Sabato just moved it into the lean Democrat column in a state that votes 66-33 Republican.
00:26:48.000 So, you know, the only person who's losing a race here is Roy Moore, not me.
00:26:52.000 I want Roy Moore out so that Republicans can win this race. 0.99
00:26:55.000 But, in any case, his supporters are out there saying that if you don't support Roy Moore, it's because you're a bunch of sissies! 1.00
00:27:00.000 You're a bunch of sissy girls! 1.00
00:27:01.000 Here's an Alabama pastor saying just this. 1.00
00:27:03.000 In the name of God, you're a sissy if you don't support a guy credibly accused of child molestation. 0.72
00:27:08.000 Why was everyone, all these people, silent for so many decades, only to all come forth at the same time now? 0.95
00:27:18.000 Well, perhaps satanically motivated, but politically carried out.
00:27:22.000 It's funny how the Republican Party is. 1.00
00:27:24.000 What a bunch of sissies. 1.00
00:27:26.000 The Democrats rally around their candidates even when they're guilty. 0.99
00:27:30.000 Republicans want to throw them under the bus on a mere accusation without knowing whether they're guilty or not.
00:27:36.000 Okay, no, we actually, this is one of the arguments that I keep hearing is Democrats don't throw their people under the bus, they rally around them.
00:27:41.000 First of all, we'll see what they do with Al Franken.
00:27:43.000 Second of all, just because someone else does something bad doesn't mean you should.
00:27:46.000 And it's not like Republicans can get away with this in the same way Democrats can.
00:27:49.000 You know why?
00:27:49.000 Because we have moral standards.
00:27:51.000 This is one of the things I've always said about being a Democrat.
00:27:53.000 It's very easy to be a Democrat.
00:27:54.000 Because when you have no moral standards in social life, that means that you can get away with just about anything.
00:27:59.000 When you say that social standards matter, that social fabric matters, that morality matters, of course we hold you to a different standard.
00:28:05.000 Of course we do.
00:28:07.000 Now, I don't think that that should necessarily be the case.
00:28:08.000 I think everyone should be held to the same standard, regardless as to whether you embrace the standard.
00:28:12.000 But when you do embrace the standard, the added charge of hypocrisy is going to be thrown at you when you move away from it.
00:28:17.000 Okay, so Roy Moore himself
00:28:19.000 It's
00:28:42.000 He held up the appointment of the Democrat, whose name now escapes me, the Democrat judge, who was appointed by Barack Obama.
00:28:52.000 He held that up until Trump could be elected, and that's how he got Judge Gorsuch.
00:28:56.000 That was good by Mitch McConnell.
00:28:57.000 But otherwise, I'm not a big Mitch McConnell fan.
00:28:59.000 But this isn't about McConnell.
00:29:01.000 But Judge Roy Moore tweeted out yesterday, as though Mitch McConnell's the only one going after him, Dear Mitch McConnell, bring it on.
00:29:09.000 And what he neglected was the second part of the tweet, is my favorite movie, and I think we all know why it was his favorite movie, actually.
00:29:16.000 We had the best squad around for years, but no one's been able to see what we can do.
00:29:20.000 We're in trouble.
00:29:21.000 But you better believe all that's gonna change this year.
00:29:23.000 You wanna make it right?
00:29:24.000 Then when you go to Nationals, bring it.
00:29:26.000 I'll bring it.
00:29:27.000 Don't worry.
00:29:29.000 And then Roy Moore is actually in the background.
00:29:31.000 For some reason, he was there at the filming.
00:29:32.000 I don't know why.
00:29:33.000 Okay, in any case... In any case, here are the solutions.
00:29:38.000 So, there are a bunch of options that have been presented.
00:29:41.000 Judge Moore, bring it on.
00:29:44.000 Guys, we gotta joke about this.
00:29:45.000 Otherwise, this time is so dark and so terrible.
00:29:48.000 There's an article from the Babylon Bee, which is a Christian-oriented parody site, that said, I think that's not entirely untrue.
00:29:54.000 I mean, 100% of Democrats would vote for Satan to stop any Republican, basically.
00:29:58.000 In any case,
00:30:06.000 I would like to, let's lay out the options as to where we go from here.
00:30:09.000 None of the options are good.
00:30:11.000 There are really three options that are being weighed right now.
00:30:14.000 So option one is the Sean Hannity option.
00:30:16.000 So after Sean lays out this very strong case a couple of nights ago that Roy Moore has to come up with something credible or Sean's gonna call for him to get out of the race,
00:30:24.000 Roy Moore basically offers nothing, and then Sean says, we'll let the people decide, which is a cop-out.
00:30:29.000 I like Sean personally.
00:30:31.000 Everyone who knows Sean likes Sean.
00:30:32.000 Sean is a really sweet, solid guy, but this is a cop-out.
00:30:36.000 It just is.
00:30:38.000 In my opinion, so serious, the people of Alabama, they need to know the truth and they've got to have all the facts that they need.
00:30:46.000 And that means that the Alabama voters can make an educated, informed, inclusive decision for their state when they go to the polls.
00:30:56.000 And if that means, whatever it means, to get to the truth, if it means more time, I believe the governor, according to Greg Jarrett, has the ability to make that decision.
00:31:04.000 The Alabama people deserve that.
00:31:05.000 Greg Jarrett said the governor can delay the race if need be.
00:31:09.000 Now, the people of Alabama deserve to have a fair choice, especially in light of the new allegations tonight.
00:31:15.000 Now, we have told you everyone's point of view.
00:31:18.000 The accusers continue to have an open invitation to come on this show and share their story.
00:31:22.000 At the end of the day, I want to tell you something.
00:31:25.000 I lived in Alabama.
00:31:26.000 I enjoyed my time in Alabama.
00:31:28.000 And I know these people.
00:31:30.000 They're smart.
00:31:31.000 They're great Americans.
00:31:32.000 God, family, faith, country.
00:31:35.000 And I am very confident that when everything comes out, they will make the best decision for their state.
00:31:43.000 Okay, so that's a giant cop-out.
00:31:45.000 So I've told you, listen, everyone knows this is when people say, people will vote how people will vote.
00:31:49.000 Of course, that's true.
00:31:50.000 Of course, that's true.
00:31:51.000 But I tell you what I think, right?
00:31:53.000 I think Roy Moore did it.
00:31:54.000 And I think that you should either write in a candidate or you should not vote at all.
00:31:57.000 Okay, this is my, these are my options, right?
00:31:59.000 This is what I think.
00:32:00.000 You'll still do what you want to do, right?
00:32:02.000 If you're in Alabama, you're a grown-up, you make your own decisions.
00:32:05.000 But I'll give you my opinion.
00:32:06.000 For Sean to basically back out of giving an opinion here, I do think it's a real cop-out.
00:32:12.000 And I don't like hitting Sean.
00:32:13.000 I like Sean.
00:32:14.000 But it's a cop-out, and yuck.
00:32:18.000 Okay, so option two.
00:32:20.000 So the option one is let the vote happen, okay, and then Moore wins or he loses.
00:32:23.000 If he loses, then Doug Jones takes the seat, and this is a real problem for Republicans who now have 51 seats in the Senate as opposed to 52.
00:32:29.000 They can't even get a tax bill through right now.
00:32:31.000 I'm going to talk about that in a second.
00:32:32.000 Okay, option two would be to somehow reset the election.
00:32:35.000 So there are two options here.
00:32:37.000 Within option two, resetting the election.
00:32:39.000 One is the one that you saw Sean mention there, which is the governor could theoretically delay the election.
00:32:43.000 Very difficult to do that.
00:32:44.000 Very difficult to see how it would matter, actually.
00:32:45.000 If he delayed the election, or she, sorry, if she delayed the election, it's very difficult to see how that would necessarily impact the election.
00:32:51.000 Also, it sets a pretty bad precedent that anytime something bad happens for the candidate of your political party, you just delay the election.
00:32:57.000 Obviously, if a Democrat did that on the flip side, we would be ragingly upset over it.
00:33:03.000 The other thing is that Mitch McConnell is considering a gambit.
00:33:06.000 So, Luther Strange, who's the current occupant of this seat, his term expires.
00:33:11.000 Remember, he was appointed to fill Jeff Sessions' seat in sort of corrupt fashion.
00:33:14.000 His term expires in a couple of years, or rather next year, I believe.
00:33:19.000 And therefore, they are holding the special election on that basis.
00:33:22.000 So one of the considerations here is that if Luther Strange, instead of filling out the rest of his term, resigns right now, that triggers a new special election.
00:33:29.000 Now, that's questionable, right?
00:33:30.000 Under the 17th Amendment to the Constitution, the way that Senate seats are filled is that when there is an absence, a vacancy, then the governor fills that and then a new election is declared.
00:33:43.000 So does it matter if the guy who filled that vacancy resigns early?
00:33:47.000 Not really clear from the 17th Amendment, but this is the logic, that maybe they can get away with it.
00:33:51.000 Maybe they can just reset the election, have a new special election with new primaries and everything.
00:33:56.000 So, the problem with this, of course, is that Roy Moore could very easily win those primaries.
00:34:01.000 So what would end up happening, I guess we could do this ad infinitum.
00:34:04.000 I guess you could have Luther Strange basically resigns, triggering a new special election.
00:34:08.000 In the meantime, you see that Jeff Sessions is appointed by the governor, at which point Roy Moore wins the primaries, at which point Jeff Sessions resigns, at which point a new election is called, at which point she appoints Luther Strange,
00:34:19.000 At which point Roy Moore wins the primaries, and we can do this forever.
00:34:22.000 It'll be just like Inception.
00:34:23.000 We'll be four levels deep, and Leonardo DiCaprio will be wandering around on the sand, forgetting where he came from.
00:34:28.000 An old man filled with regret.
00:34:29.000 We can do any of these things, I guess, but I'm not sure that it's actually gonna work.
00:34:34.000 Finally, there's option three.
00:34:35.000 Okay, this is the don't seat him option.
00:34:37.000 So, Kirsten Gillibrand, the Democrat from New York, she says that this will be the move.
00:34:42.000 That if Roy Moore were actually elected to the Senate, there would be an ethics hearing, and then there would be a move not to seat him.
00:34:48.000 I think there will be an outcry of members of the Senate who do not want him to serve, even if he's elected.
00:34:56.000 I believe these survivors.
00:34:58.000 I think most people do.
00:34:59.000 And I think it's important that he be held accountable.
00:35:02.000 But hopefully, the people in his state will vote for someone else.
00:35:07.000 Okay, so Gillibrand, by the way, says she supports an investigation into the Franken allegations, but she is not calling for Franken to step down.
00:35:13.000 So she wants more out, but Franken, well, we'll have an ethics investigation.
00:35:17.000 An ethics investigation just means nothing ever happens, because there are tons of ethics investigations, few with expulsion.
00:35:23.000 But the question is, should Republicans seat more?
00:35:25.000 So yesterday I said on national television, I don't think they should seat more.
00:35:29.000 And I got some blowback from that.
00:35:31.000 People were upset about that.
00:35:32.000 And even some folks who I was talking about off the air, I was talking with a couple of folks off the air who were on the show with me, and they were saying, well, wouldn't that be disrespecting the people of Alabama's choice?
00:35:41.000 And my view is, so what?
00:35:45.000 Okay, and I know that's sort of harsh language, but the idea here is that democracy is not the same as living in a republic.
00:35:52.000 And I'm going to discuss this in The Big Idea in just a second.
00:35:54.000 Listen, I don't want to play with fire, where everybody is now expelled, overruling the will of the people.
00:36:00.000 I don't think that's something that we should take lightly.
00:36:01.000 But I'm not taking this lightly.
00:36:02.000 When you have credible allegations of child molestation, I don't think that that's taking it lightly.
00:36:06.000 I do think that the reason the founders put in place checks and balances, including the ability to expel a member or not seat a member, was for situations like this.
00:36:15.000 I do think that that exists.
00:36:16.000 So the big idea, in a little while, I'm going to talk about the difference between living in a democracy and living in a republic, and why it is that the founders were not supremely comfortable with the argument that just because the people want something, the people ought to get something.
00:36:28.000 I'll talk about that in just a second.
00:36:48.000 And he still, the judge still wants them to go back to the drawing board.
00:36:52.000 He's facing charges of conspiracy, bribery, and honest services fraud relating to abusing the power of his office.
00:36:58.000 It could carry decades in prison.
00:37:00.000 The prosecutors say that he accepted more than 600 grand in political contributions, a luxurious hotel suite at the Park Hyatt in Paris, free rides on a private jet.
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00:38:26.000 Alrighty.
00:38:27.000 So, you know, I know a lot of people are uptight with me for talking so much about the Moore thing, but I do think that this is a moral breaking point for the Republican Party.
00:38:33.000 Because I don't think that we can get away with the vision of governance that we are suggesting.
00:38:39.000 That we on the right can elect characterless people and get away with it.
00:38:42.000 Because the whole point of being on the right, the whole point of being on the right, is that we are supposed to stand for virtue.
00:38:48.000 This is one of the things I'm writing about in my new book.
00:38:51.000 I'm working on a new book.
00:38:53.000 And the absence of virtue in political life and in common life, the decision that we don't have to worry about virtue or inculcation of virtue or have a common definition of virtue, this means that we are less happy as a people.
00:39:04.000 It means we don't trust each other.
00:39:05.000 It means we don't trust our neighbors.
00:39:06.000 You wouldn't trust Roy Moore to babysit your child.
00:39:09.000 Why would you trust Roy Moore to make your policy?
00:39:12.000 Why would you trust Roy Moore at the levers of the most powerful government in the history of humanity?
00:39:17.000 I think that we should be asking these questions regardless if we are right, left, or center, and I've been very, very consistent on this.
00:39:22.000 Okay.
00:39:23.000 Time for some things I like and then some epic things I hate and a quick big idea.
00:39:25.000 So, things I like.
00:39:28.000 I was on the plane yesterday.
00:39:29.000 Lots of plane riding.
00:39:31.000 And there was a movie that I was able to watch.
00:39:34.000 JetBlue, by the way, is spectacular.
00:39:35.000 I just have to say, JetBlue is great.
00:39:36.000 They had free internet, they had new movies, just tremendous service all the way through.
00:39:41.000 And I was able to watch this movie from Taylor Sheridan, one of my favorite directors, Hell or High Water, and Sicario.
00:39:49.000 And the movie is Wind River, Jeremy Renner and Elizabeth Olsen.
00:39:52.000 Jeremy Renner is terrific, Elizabeth Olsen is not, but the movie itself is quite good.
00:39:58.000 The last half hour of it is really tense and spectacular.
00:40:02.000 It's very gritty.
00:40:03.000 Okay, it's very upsetting.
00:40:04.000 There's one scene near the end where a crime is replayed, and it is very dee- I mean, it is deeply upsetting.
00:40:09.000 So, if you're not up for that, then you probably won't be up for any of Taylor Sheridan's films, but the movie itself is effective, and interesting, and takes on some issues with regard to Native reservations, Native American reservations, which I think have been long neglected as a place that tremendous suffering goes on.
00:40:25.000 Here's a little bit of the trailer.
00:40:39.000 I need emergency assistance.
00:40:41.000 What's your location?
00:40:43.000 The Wind River Indian Reservation.
00:40:49.000 I'm Jane Banner.
00:40:51.000 FBI.
00:40:51.000 Welcome to Wyoming.
00:40:52.000 Are you by yourself?
00:40:53.000 It's just me.
00:40:55.000 That's Corey Lambert.
00:40:56.000 He's the one who found the body.
00:41:01.000 Most murders are never solved in Native reservations, essentially. 0.99
00:41:05.000 She's a fighter. 1.00
00:41:10.000 Most criminals are never found.
00:41:11.000 It's a very good movie, and one of the things that I like about this film, and one of the things I like about Taylor Sheridan's writing generally, is that not only is he willing to do nuance, but also, he doesn't do these anti-American sucker punches.
00:41:22.000 So, one of the things that's really nice about this film is that it's all about investigation into a woman's murder on a Native American reservation, but the person who's solving the murder is a white guy, Jeremy Renner, and this comes up.
00:41:36.000 Right?
00:41:36.000 And he's not portrayed as somebody who's, he's married to a Native American woman.
00:41:39.000 He's not portrayed as like an unsympathetic white guy walking onto a Native American reservation and raping the place. 0.94
00:41:44.000 That's not the idea.
00:41:45.000 The idea is that if we can find our common humanity, then we're going to be able to solve some problems.
00:41:49.000 Whereas if we steep ourselves in these artificial divisions, then we're never going to be able to solve these problems.
00:41:54.000 Like there's a couple of characters, one who's a Native American character who sort of revels in his, in the feeling of victimization. 0.99
00:42:01.000 And Jeremy Renner gives him a nice lecture.
00:42:03.000 And then some white guys who,
00:42:05.000 Revel in the idea that they get to victimize Native American girls, and they're the bad guys. 0.99
00:42:10.000 So I think that it's quite a good movie.
00:42:13.000 It's worth watching.
00:42:15.000 Uh, again, as I say, Jeremy Renner is very, very good in it.
00:42:18.000 Uh, Elizabeth Olsen is less good in it. 1.00
00:42:21.000 Um, just because she does wide-eyed the entire film. 0.63
00:42:24.000 Uh, Elizabeth Blunt in Sicario gives a much better performance than Elizabeth Olsen does.
00:42:27.000 Um, but, the movie is worth seeing.
00:42:29.000 Okay.
00:42:29.000 Uh, it's not gonna get a lot of credit, by the way, because it's a Weinstein Company production.
00:42:32.000 Uh, and so, it's- it was slated-
00:42:35.000 It was slated for some awards, it was Weinstein Company produced, and so now it's probably going to get ignored because of Weinstein, which I find just yuck.
00:42:43.000 I mean, Weinstein didn't make the movie, he put some money behind it. 0.91
00:42:45.000 I don't think that just because Weinstein put money behind something means everything he put money behind is garbage.
00:42:49.000 I don't think that's right.
00:42:51.000 Other things that I like.
00:42:52.000 So this was pretty funny yesterday.
00:42:53.000 Trump was giving his speech.
00:42:54.000 He said he had a big announcement when he came back from Asia.
00:42:56.000 He did not have a big announcement.
00:42:57.000 He announced basically all of the nice hotels he'd visited.
00:43:01.000 And then he took a drink of water from a water bottle, and for a brief moment in time, the internet went insane.
00:43:07.000 Japanese companies have announced investments in the United States worth more than $8 billion, 17,000 jobs.
00:43:14.000 Thank you.
00:43:20.000 They don't have water, that's okay.
00:43:24.000 What?
00:43:25.000 No, it's okay.
00:43:28.000 There he goes drinking that water.
00:43:30.000 I like the look into the camera, the steely eyed glare as he tries to open this bottle of water.
00:43:37.000 Japanese manufacturers.
00:43:39.000 And everybody went nuts for a second because Donald Trump had, of course, mocked Marco Rubio for drinking from the bottle of water.
00:43:44.000 Rubio actually, he actually critiqued Trump on his water bottle technique, which is pretty funny on Twitter, so I thought that was kind of funny.
00:43:50.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.
00:43:57.000 So as you know, I love Twitter.
00:43:58.000 I'm very, very active on Twitter.
00:43:59.000 I have almost a million followers there.
00:44:01.000 And I tweet incessantly, annoying everyone in my feed.
00:44:05.000 And Twitter is now cracking down on blue checkmarks.
00:44:07.000 The way they're doing this is they're saying that they want to get rid of blue checkmarks for people who tweet controversial and nasty things.
00:44:13.000 So they got rid of it for some white supremacists like Richard Spencer and Baked Alaska.
00:44:19.000 And here's my problem with this. 0.98
00:44:21.000 I think all those people are garbage, but the blue checkmark is there so that if somebody is imitating you, it's supposed to verify you, right? 0.93
00:44:28.000 The idea is that if somebody is imitating you, you can report them for imitating you. 0.98
00:44:32.000 It's a protection against fraud, essentially.
00:44:34.000 Fraud protections still exist for bad people. 0.98
00:44:37.000 Like, if you want to kick off Baked Alaska because you think Baked Alaska is a scumbag and he violates your terms of service for being a white supremacist, you know, that's your standard. 0.95
00:44:44.000 You're a private company, you can do what you want. 0.91
00:44:46.000 But, if you're removing verification checkmarks, what that inherently is doing is now
00:44:51.000 You're saying that there are certain people whose messages are approved who we will continue to provide blue checkmarks, and there are certain people whose messages are not approved who will not provide blue checkmarks, and now it looks like Twitter is sponsoring certain messages.
00:45:01.000 It's really dumb business more than anything else.
00:45:03.000 I think Twitter's making a huge mistake. 1.00
00:45:05.000 It's very stupid. 1.00
00:45:05.000 Okay, other things that I hate. 1.00
00:45:07.000 This was an amazing picture.
00:45:09.000 Okay, so I have to show you this picture.
00:45:10.000 This was actually photographed by AP, and this was real.
00:45:13.000 Okay, this is Steve Mnuchin and his wife, Louise Linton.
00:45:17.000 They went over to the U.S.
00:45:19.000 Mint and they held up copies of the first currency notes bearing his and U.S.
00:45:24.000 Treasurer Jovita Carranza's signatures.
00:45:28.000 At the Bureau of Engraving and Printing.
00:45:29.000 And I don't even know what's going on here.
00:45:33.000 I mean, like, if you can't see the picture, it's Mnuchin holding up the sheet, and then his wife, Louise Linton, in Cruella de Vil gloves, giving a Bond villain glare into the camera as she smiles, holding this up.
00:45:44.000 The best tweet that I saw on this yesterday was, Louise Linton with the things she loves and Steve Mnuchin.
00:45:51.000 I don't know.
00:46:07.000 Yeah, this is not a good look.
00:46:09.000 I mean, you don't want to look plutocratic.
00:46:10.000 That's not exactly the best look, which of course led to one of my favorite things that I have ever seen, which is somebody made this video of Steve Mnuchin, and Steve Mnuchin is, let's say he's a rather smarmy character, and Steve Mnuchin, you have to laugh, they cut a video of Steve Mnuchin talking, but they filled his mouth with gargling sounds, and it really works.
00:46:32.000 It's really funny.
00:46:33.000 Was it appropriate that Tom Price was fired?
00:46:40.000 Do you regret making the requests you made for government aircraft, whether it was to go to Kentucky?
00:46:46.000 I know there's an inspector general on that one.
00:46:48.000 Secretary Mnuchin, I appreciate you coming on.
00:47:06.000 I don't know why.
00:47:06.000 I thought it was funny.
00:47:08.000 It made me laugh.
00:47:08.000 Okay, time for the big idea.
00:47:10.000 So I mentioned earlier that if they don't seat Roy Moore after he's elected, is this a slap in the face to the people of Alabama?
00:47:17.000 I think the answer is no.
00:47:18.000 I think that the people of Alabama, many of them who would vote for Roy Moore, don't want him in the Senate.
00:47:21.000 They just don't want Doug Jones there.
00:47:23.000 And so if you were replaced by somebody like Jeff Sessions, I think that a lot of people in Alabama would probably breathe a sigh of relief.
00:47:27.000 I think a lot of Alabama voters say, I'm not voting for Mitch Jones, I don't want Jones in the Senate, I don't want the election to get away, I'll vote for Moore, right?
00:47:34.000 They'll make the binary decision and vote for Moore.
00:47:36.000 That would be the logic anyway, and write-in won't work, so we'll vote for him.
00:47:39.000 He'll win, and then maybe they'll replace him.
00:47:41.000 So I think that does exist.
00:47:42.000 But second of all,
00:47:43.000 There's this idea that has gone around, and I find it very irritating, that institutions that were specifically set up to check public excesses are now considered out of bounds.
00:47:53.000 It's terrible.
00:47:53.000 How dare you check what the public wants here?
00:47:56.000 The founders never believed in democracy.
00:47:58.000 The founders believed in republicanism.
00:47:59.000 In fact, the founders despised the idea of direct democracy.
00:48:02.000 The idea that the people know best in every situation never crossed the founders' mind.
00:48:07.000 Here's what John Adams wrote in 1814.
00:48:28.000 Under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty.
00:48:33.000 When clear prospects are open before vanity, pride, avarice, or ambition, for their easy gratification, it is hard for the most considerate philosophers and the most conscientious moralists to resist the temptation.
00:48:43.000 Individuals have conquered themselves.
00:48:44.000 Nations and large bodies of men, never.
00:48:47.000 So, John Adams saying, listen, direct democracy, the idea that people always are right, is not true, which is why you have a set of checks and balances.
00:48:53.000 If you believe that people are always right, majority rule on everything.
00:48:56.000 You wouldn't need a Constitution, you wouldn't need a Senate, you wouldn't need a House, you wouldn't need a Presidency, you wouldn't need a Judiciary.
00:49:00.000 You wouldn't need checks and balances.
00:49:02.000 The Senate was given the authority as to whether to seat particular Senators specifically for situations where Senators should not be seated even though they were elected.
00:49:09.000 You know, and somebody yesterday asked me, what if the Electoral College had rogue electors who voted against Donald Trump?
00:49:14.000 What I said is, that is what the Electoral College was designed to do.
00:49:16.000 I would have disagreed that the Electoral College should have seen Donald Trump as such a threat to democracy that they wouldn't seat him.
00:49:22.000 But originally, this is what the Electoral College was designed to do.
00:49:25.000 The Electoral College was designed to stop bad men from entering high office.
00:49:30.000 Or women. 0.79
00:49:31.000 That's what it was designed to do.
00:49:33.000 In fact, if I had my druthers, the Electoral College would have said nix to both of the candidates, and then we would have been able to seat somebody else.
00:49:38.000 In any case, Chief Justice John Marshall said the same thing.
00:49:41.000 He said,
00:49:47.000 Right?
00:49:47.000 A balanced republic is designed to check out the excesses.
00:49:49.000 James Madison writes this in Federalist Ten, which we'll get to when we eventually get to Federalist Ten in our review of the Federalist Papers.
00:49:54.000 I think next week is Federalist Four.
00:49:56.000 He says,
00:50:07.000 If we don't accept that some checks and balances are necessary to prevent the excesses of people who feel forced into binary positions, then we're not going to be able to actually see what the system of government was meant to be.
00:50:18.000 Okay, so we'll be back here tomorrow with all the latest.
00:50:20.000 We'll see if the Democrats continue to stand in hypocritical fashion by Al Franken, and we'll see if Bob Menendez walks free.
00:50:26.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:50:27.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.