The Ben Shapiro Show - April 12, 2024


OJ Simpson Killed By Cancer


Episode Stats

Length

59 minutes

Words per Minute

197.49365

Word Count

11,662

Sentence Count

859

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

O.J. Simpson was a murderer, but he spent the last half of his life being treated by some in the media as though he was instead a controversial figure. And yet, to the celebration of a wide swath of the American population, he will be remembered as a person who really widened the gap between the races in the United States in a dramatic way, and in a way that, in some ways, has never been fully closed. Today, we remember him as a double murderer who got away with it for racial political reasons, and who left in his wake one of the signal events in truly American history: the acquittals of OJ Simpson in the murder of his ex-wife Nicole Brown and the acquittal of her husband, Ron Goldman, in the 1994 murder of Nicole and her friend, Nicole's ex-husband, O J. Simpson. This episode is brought to you by the National Museum of American Indians and Torres, and edited and produced by Annie-Rose Strasser. The opinions expressed here are our own, not those of our employers. We do not claim any responsibility for the opinions expressed by our employees, employers, suppliers, or clients. Thank you for your support and condolences to the families affected by this difficult and sad news. We understand that this is a difficult and difficult time, and we appreciate the outpouring of love and support that has been shown by the people who shared it with us in this episode. Rest in Paradise, Los Angeles, California. Our hearts and prayers go out to the family, friends, family, and supporters, and all the many more who lost a loved one in this tragic day in history. RIP, OJ and may you rest in peace, Oj Simpson, my brother and sister in heaven. -Eugene Simpson, you will always be in our hearts. Love always, always, forever. -Amen and sister. -John Singleton -PATREON BONUS CONTENT: This episode was written by a good friend of mine - John Rocha . - John R. Simpson - Thank you, my sister - John and I hope you enjoy this episode of the podcast, John, I am so sorry for all the love and respect you're listening to this podcast - I know you'll miss this, I love you, I'll see you next week - - and I'm going to miss you.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 So, yesterday, O.J.
00:00:01.000 Simpson died at the age of 76.
00:00:04.000 And the media didn't quite know what to do with that.
00:00:07.000 They didn't know what to do with that because, of course, O.J.
00:00:08.000 Simpson was a murderer.
00:00:10.000 And everyone knows that he was a murderer, but he spent the last half of his life being treated by some in the media as though he was instead a sort of controversial figure.
00:00:19.000 A headline from the Washington Post sort of sums this up.
00:00:23.000 How will O.J.
00:00:24.000 Simpson be remembered?
00:00:26.000 The answer, for everyone who remembers the O.J.
00:00:28.000 Simpson murder trial, is he will be remembered as a person who very obviously murdered his ex-wife and a person named Ron Goldman, and then who proceeded to be alleviated of the criminal responsibility for that double murder by a jury of people who were politically motivated.
00:00:43.000 To the celebration of a wide swath of the American population, he will be remembered as a person who really widened the gap between the races in the United States in a dramatic way, and in a way that, in some ways, has never truly closed.
00:00:55.000 It seemed like between OJ Simpson and the election of Barack Obama, America was becoming more racially reconciliatory.
00:01:02.000 And then Barack Obama opened those gaps wide again in 2010, 2011, 2012.
00:01:07.000 But the OJ Simpson trial was the moment when Americans realized that the attempts of the 1960s and the 1970s to move beyond America's terrible history of racism That that had some pretty impactful consequences, and that there were two sides to the racial conflict in the United States.
00:01:24.000 Because up until the Civil Rights Movement, there really was only one side.
00:01:28.000 That side was American white supremacists treating black people as chattel, and then American white supremacists treating black people as trash.
00:01:35.000 And then after the Civil Rights Movement, the idea was, okay, we're going to put all of that behind us.
00:01:38.000 We're now going to move forward in a country that tries to actually meet the guarantees of the Declaration of Independence, that all men are created equal.
00:01:47.000 And then in the OJ Simpson trial, it became very clear to a lot of Americans that the standard of equal justice for all, it was not only a matter of, could that be reached?
00:01:57.000 It was a matter of, did everyone want that standard to be reached?
00:02:01.000 That's what the OJ Simpson trial meant for a lot of people.
00:02:04.000 And that's what he will be remembered for as a double murderer who got away with it for racial political reasons.
00:02:10.000 So as I say, he died yesterday at the age of 76.
00:02:13.000 He left in his wake.
00:02:17.000 Still, the families of Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown, without obviously members of their families, who he had brutally slain.
00:02:25.000 Not just that, he still owed more than $100 million to their families because they won civil trials against him after losing the criminal trial in favor of convicting him.
00:02:35.000 The evidence against OJ, for those who weren't alive for this, was overwhelming.
00:02:38.000 And if you weren't alive for the OJ Simpson trial, if you were born afterward, or if you don't remember it very well, it was one of the signal events in truly American history.
00:02:48.000 Like, there are very few places in your memory that you can remember where you were when the thing happened.
00:02:53.000 For people who are older than I, Pearl Harbor or the moon landing.
00:02:57.000 For people of my age, the two events that come to mind, where you knew where you were when it happened, We're the O.J.
00:03:04.000 Simpson verdict at 9-11.
00:03:06.000 Those were the two events where you really know where I was in a classroom in Los Angeles, where the trial was taking place, and they actually wheeled a television into the classroom, the public school classroom I was attending.
00:03:16.000 And I remember vividly that as they announced the verdict on the TV, in the public school classroom, where I was going to school, the racial breakdown in the class was perfectly obvious.
00:03:27.000 Every kid who was not white was celebratory about the verdict, and every kid who was white was sort of shocked by the verdict.
00:03:33.000 Because here's the thing.
00:03:35.000 Everyone knew OJ was guilty.
00:03:37.000 No one legitimately believed that OJ was innocent.
00:03:40.000 It was just a question of whether you wanted to see him acquitted because of racial reasons and those racial reasons were explained at the time and even now by people who believe that somehow some sort of revenge was deserved for America's terrible racial history by allowing a black man who had largely traveled in white circles.
00:03:59.000 OJ Simpson was seen as someone who did not want to be seen as a black person in the United States for large parts of his career.
00:04:05.000 He wanted to be seen as just a famous person, as an athlete.
00:04:08.000 He didn't live in the black areas of Los Angeles.
00:04:10.000 He lived in Brentwood, which is a very white area of Los Angeles.
00:04:14.000 And yet, after he killed two white people, suddenly his cause became a quote-unquote racial cause.
00:04:20.000 And that racial logic has kept up even until today.
00:04:24.000 I think the single best take on this In terms of clarifying where people stood on OJ, and still, in some sense, stand on racial politics, particularly on the left, was from Mark Lamont Hill.
00:04:36.000 So Mark Lamont Hill, of course, a very radical person.
00:04:39.000 Mark Lamont Hill is a true believer in the perverse ideology of diversity, equity, inclusion, critical race theory.
00:04:48.000 He's a really true believer in the idea that if you are a member of a quote-unquote victimized group, that you are now absolved from all responsibility because of the evils of the society that surrounds you.
00:04:59.000 And that evidence of your membership in a victimized group is the underperformance of that group.
00:05:03.000 Underperformance equals victimhood.
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00:06:05.000 tweeted out yesterday, quote, OJ Simpson was an abusive liar who abandoned his community long
00:06:09.000 before he killed two people in cold blood. His acquittal for murder was the correct and necessary
00:06:14.000 result of a racist criminal legal system. But he's still a monster, not a martyr.
00:06:18.000 Now, if you read the first sentence and the last sentence of that tweet, they go together, right?
00:06:25.000 O.J.
00:06:25.000 Simpson was an abusive liar, and also he was a monster, not a martyr.
00:06:30.000 But the middle sentence, where he says that his acquittal was necessary, it was correct, it was the result of a racist criminal legal system, is the truly astonishing part.
00:06:39.000 So he's acknowledging full-on O.J.
00:06:41.000 Simpson murdered two people in cold blood, and that he was a monster, but he still deserved to be acquitted.
00:06:49.000 No country, obviously, can survive for very long on the basis that as long as you are a member of a particular race, that you deserve to be acquitted for the murder of somebody else of another race.
00:07:02.000 That sort of pure, unbridled hatred and racism wrecks societies.
00:07:08.000 And it was made very clear that that was the case in 1995, when the verdict came down.
00:07:12.000 And it was made very clear that that was, in fact, the case.
00:07:15.000 Today, for a lot of people on the political left, unfortunately.
00:07:18.000 I just want to go through this for a moment, because again, a lot of people don't remember.
00:07:21.000 This is a long time ago.
00:07:24.000 For people like me, it seems like it was fairly recent, but 1995, when the verdict actually came down, that was a, that's a lifetime ago.
00:07:34.000 So, the evidence against O.J.
00:07:35.000 Simpson was incredibly stacked.
00:07:37.000 So, O.J.
00:07:38.000 murdered Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman, June 12th, 1994.
00:07:42.000 There's tremendous evidence that he did it.
00:07:44.000 This is not a case where there's a lot of controversy about what happened.
00:07:47.000 Everyone knows what happened.
00:07:49.000 First of all, he had a history of allegedly abusing Nicole Brown Simpson.
00:07:52.000 She'd called the cops on him before for having abused her.
00:07:55.000 She actually told the cops at one point that he was going to kill her.
00:07:59.000 But the actual crime scene was just a treasure trove for the police.
00:08:05.000 There were blood drops on a gate at the murder scene, near bloody shoe prints at the crime scene.
00:08:10.000 All of those contained O.J.
00:08:12.000 Simpson's genetic markings.
00:08:14.000 When Simpson was interviewed by police, he had a cut on his finger that was presumably the source of the blood.
00:08:19.000 There was a giant heiress leather glove found at the murder scene near the bodies.
00:08:24.000 Its mate was found on Simpson's estate.
00:08:26.000 Both gloves were covered in blood.
00:08:29.000 And both gloves also had Simpson's genetic markers as well as markers from Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman.
00:08:37.000 Hairs that were similar to OJ's hair were found in a knit cap at the crime scene.
00:08:41.000 Strands of hair were covered from Ron Goldman's shirt.
00:08:44.000 They were also identical to Simpson's head hair.
00:08:47.000 There were bloody shoe prints found at the crime scene, matching, very famously, size 12 Bruno Magli shoes.
00:08:54.000 That shoe is a unique Italian-made model, and they were Simpson's shoes.
00:09:00.000 Bloody socks were found in Simpson's bedroom, and that blood had both his genetic markers and Nicole Brown Simpson's genetic markers on them.
00:09:07.000 So, I mean, this was an open and shut criminal case.
00:09:09.000 And everybody who has tried to make this into the failures of lawyering on the part of the prosecution, it's a whole series that was made on FX where it was all about the errors of lawyering.
00:09:17.000 This case was lost, as it turns out, the minute that the jurisdiction over the case was transferred from Brentwood to downtown Los Angeles.
00:09:25.000 Which was, in fact, the fault of Gil Garcetti, the father of the future mayor Eric Garcetti.
00:09:29.000 Gil Garcetti was the DA at the time, and he moved the case from Brentwood, which was a largely white area where OJ undoubtedly would have been convicted, correctly, to downtown Los Angeles, where the jury pool was significantly more black.
00:09:41.000 And the jury that ended up acquitting OJ Simpson was, in fact, majority-minority.
00:09:49.000 The O.J.
00:09:49.000 Simpson story is a reminder that criminal justice can be used as a piece of a movement.
00:09:56.000 One of the things that's so obvious about O.J.' 's guilt, and we see this now, is that political movements, when they pick their victims, according to the political left, the true victim of the O.J.
00:10:06.000 Simpson story was actually O.J.
00:10:08.000 Simpson.
00:10:09.000 Because O.J.
00:10:10.000 had been wrongfully targeted by the police.
00:10:11.000 We'll go through some of the evidence in a minute and what happened at trial and the attempts to basically say that because one police officer said racist things, therefore O.J.
00:10:19.000 could be acquitted for murdering two people.
00:10:22.000 But the reason that so many members of the political left and the racial left glommed on to the O.J.
00:10:26.000 case is because he was a bad example.
00:10:28.000 And sometimes it's hard to understand in American politics why it is that certain cases become national stories while other cases don't.
00:10:35.000 There are undoubtedly cases that we never hear of, of actual crimes in which a racist police officer harms a black person.
00:10:43.000 And then is convicted and then goes to jail.
00:10:45.000 And we never hear those cases when the evidence is clearly against the officer.
00:10:49.000 The cases we always hear are the cases of bad examples.
00:10:52.000 Michael Brown, who tried to grab a gun off a police officer.
00:10:56.000 Or Breonna Taylor, who was staying at her boyfriend's apartment when she was accidentally shot by police after they warned that they were coming in the door.
00:11:04.000 Or George Floyd, who was high as a kite and saying he couldn't breathe before he was even taken out of the car and no allegations were even made at trial against Derek Chauvin.
00:11:12.000 Suggesting that Chauvin was a racist.
00:11:14.000 Bad examples must be picked and sides must be taken based on the bad examples.
00:11:18.000 Because as in every political context, showing that you have political fealty to a particular position requires you to take positions that are untenable.
00:11:28.000 The more faith you show in the political narrative, the more you're willing to pick a bad example and say, even this bad example applies to my narrative.
00:11:35.000 And O.J.
00:11:36.000 was the worst example of all.
00:11:37.000 As we say, O.J.
00:11:38.000 was not somebody who had historically associated himself with the race question in America.
00:11:43.000 O.J., historically, was not somebody who had drawn particularly close to black activism, for example, so he wasn't targeted for his politics.
00:11:51.000 O.J.
00:11:51.000 happened to be unbelievably clearly guilty of a double murder.
00:11:56.000 And it was precisely because of that that he became such a cause celeb, particularly in the black community.
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00:13:03.000 So here's the flashback.
00:13:04.000 A little bit of a blast from the past here for those who remember.
00:13:08.000 1994, Nicole Brown Simpson's body being removed from the Brentwood estate where she had been murdered along with Ron Goldman.
00:13:16.000 Ron Goldman, of course, had just been a person working at a local restaurant, who kind of tangentially knew Nicole Brown Simpson, and was bringing her glasses that she had forgotten at the restaurant.
00:13:27.000 O.J.
00:13:27.000 came over to murder Nicole, and Ronald Goldman ended up being there.
00:13:31.000 So here they were removing the body.
00:13:33.000 Then, as you'll recall, O.J.
00:13:35.000 was going to be arrested, and he decided that he was going to try to get away from the police in what is the most famous boring car chase of all time, the White Bronco chase.
00:13:45.000 I remember it was during the 1994 NBA Finals, and they put this on full screen in the NBA Finals in the corner of the screen.
00:13:50.000 I remember being pretty ticked because I used to watch the NBA Finals a lot more.
00:13:53.000 And OJ was going down the highway and supposedly threatening to kill himself in the back of the Ford Bronco as a bunch of people stood on overpasses in Los Angeles with giant signs reading, Run OJ Run.
00:14:07.000 So this was the beginning of celebrity, modern celebrity crime culture.
00:14:12.000 And also, the beginning of this kind of perverse movement where ideology trumped fact to the extent that you could actually go out on an overpass with a sign encouraging a double homicide perpetrator to run from the police.
00:14:27.000 When they got to the trial, all this broke out into the open.
00:14:30.000 So Johnny Cochran put on a show.
00:14:33.000 The defense team, this is all highly publicized obviously, the defense team was made up of the so-called dream team.
00:14:39.000 They're like Robert Shapiro, Johnny Cochran, F. Lee Bailey, Alan Dershowitz.
00:14:46.000 Now all these people were incredibly well credentialed.
00:14:49.000 Cochran is the person who took the lead.
00:14:50.000 The reason that Cochran really took the lead is because he was perfectly willing to play racial politics with this particular case.
00:14:56.000 This was a pure case of jury nullification.
00:14:59.000 There's a pure case in which the jury just said, we know he's guilty.
00:15:01.000 We don't care.
00:15:01.000 We're doing it anyway.
00:15:03.000 And he made a bunch of spurious arguments that of course then entered the lexicon.
00:15:07.000 So, OJ was given the other glove to try on, the bloody gloves.
00:15:12.000 You remember, as you mentioned in the evidence, there were two gloves.
00:15:14.000 One was found at his Brentwood home.
00:15:16.000 The other was in the courtroom.
00:15:18.000 Now, something happens to leather when you make it wet.
00:15:21.000 It shrinks, as everybody who has ever, for example, worn a golf glove in the rain knows.
00:15:25.000 You put it in your bag, you take it out later, and it's all crinkled up, because that's what happens to leather.
00:15:30.000 Also, O.J.
00:15:31.000 at this time is wearing a surgical glove, which has another layer beneath the glove.
00:15:38.000 And here was O.J.
00:15:39.000 trying on the glove.
00:15:40.000 And this was the main part of the argument, as we'll see in a moment.
00:15:43.000 Here was O.J.
00:15:44.000 trying on the glove, which was stained, by the way, with his blood.
00:15:51.000 You have a problem putting a piece of the glove on his hand?
00:15:54.000 Okay, first of all, that glove clearly fits.
00:15:56.000 All he has to do is pull it a little bit.
00:15:58.000 Yep.
00:15:58.000 Right, now he's gonna pretend that he can't get the glove on.
00:16:09.000 Oh, it's so hard for him.
00:16:10.000 It's so hard for him to get the glove on.
00:16:14.000 I know that we were supposed to pretend in the moment that the glove did not fit.
00:16:18.000 That was clearly the other glove.
00:16:21.000 Obviously.
00:16:23.000 Oh my gosh, wow.
00:16:25.000 And then the idea is it doesn't fit.
00:16:27.000 The gloves don't fit.
00:16:28.000 This became the centerpiece of the Johnny Cochran argument.
00:16:32.000 Here is Johnny Cochran doing some good old time lawyering here.
00:16:37.000 I'm gonna show you something.
00:16:38.000 This is a knit cap.
00:16:39.000 I'm gonna put this knit cap on.
00:16:41.000 You've been seeing me for a year.
00:16:42.000 If I put this knit cap on, who am I?
00:16:46.000 I'm still Johnny Cochran with a knit cap.
00:16:49.000 And if you look at O.J.
00:16:51.000 Simpson over there, and he has a rather large head, OJ Simpson in a knit cap from two blocks away is still OJ Simpson.
00:17:01.000 It's no disguise.
00:17:02.000 It's no disguise.
00:17:04.000 It makes no sense.
00:17:05.000 It doesn't fit.
00:17:07.000 If it doesn't fit, You must acquit.
00:17:10.000 This was the argument, and it was a stupid argument at the time, but it was turned into a supposedly interesting argument, specifically because of all the racial connotations around the case.
00:17:19.000 And those racial connotations came to a head over the testimony of Mark Fuhrman.
00:17:23.000 Mark Fuhrman was an evidentiary expert for the LAPD.
00:17:27.000 He had handled evidence.
00:17:28.000 He was brought up to discuss the evidence.
00:17:31.000 And he had denied, in court, racist remarks regarding O.J.
00:17:36.000 Simpson, But it turns out there was tape of him saying racist things on the stand.
00:17:42.000 For the first time, excerpts from the Furman tapes you've never heard.
00:17:48.000 Vulgar.
00:17:49.000 Sexist.
00:17:49.000 Steve said, oh, fight for you.
00:17:51.000 Hold up one.
00:17:52.000 Thank you.
00:17:53.000 The plot works.
00:17:54.000 Big nose.
00:17:56.000 Sexist.
00:17:57.000 How do you arrest a violent suspect?
00:18:00.000 I yell out, have a man do it.
00:18:04.000 Disturbing.
00:18:06.000 You've got to be a borderline socialist.
00:18:07.000 You've got to be violent.
00:18:09.000 You gotta be violent.
00:18:11.000 Okay.
00:18:11.000 And then, it turns out that on the stand, he was asked about whether he had ever used racist language.
00:18:16.000 Here he was on the stands denying racist remarks with regard to O.J., particularly.
00:18:20.000 I want you to assume that perhaps at some time, since 1985 or 6, you addressed a member of the African-American race as a n*****.
00:18:32.000 Is it possible that you have forgotten that act on your part?
00:18:36.000 No, it's not possible.
00:18:37.000 Are you therefore saying that you have not used that word in the past ten years, Detective Furman?
00:18:43.000 Yes, that's what I'm saying.
00:18:44.000 And you say on your oath that you have not addressed any black person as a s*** or spoken about black people as s*** in the past ten years, Detective Furman?
00:18:54.000 That's what I'm saying, sir.
00:18:55.000 So that anyone who comes to this court and quotes you as using that word in dealing with African Americans would be a liar, would they not, Detective Furman?
00:19:04.000 Yes, they would.
00:19:05.000 All of them, correct?
00:19:05.000 All of them.
00:19:07.000 Okay, so there were some tapes of Furman and an aspiring screenwriter named Laura Hart McKinney covering 12 hours on tape over many years.
00:19:14.000 And in those tapes, he had used some 41 racial epithets and made statements about police being above the law.
00:19:20.000 And apparently, he used the N-word in those tapes two times.
00:19:24.000 And that was then heard in the courtroom.
00:19:27.000 And so the idea was if he's lying about using the N-word on the stand, Then he must be lying about the evidence.
00:19:32.000 An absurd contention.
00:19:34.000 The reason he was lying about using the N-word on the stand is because it was embarrassing.
00:19:38.000 You can't lie about something like planting OJ's blood all over everything, everywhere.
00:19:42.000 And so, in any case, the verdict gets read, and you can see the reactions as the OJ Simpson verdict was read in court.
00:19:52.000 Here is a flashback to the reactions as the OJ verdict was read.
00:19:56.000 We, the jury, in the above entitled action, find the defendant, Orenthal James Simpson, not guilty of the crime of murder in violation of penal code section 187A, a felony upon Ronald Lyle Goldman, a human being, as charged in count two of the information.
00:20:12.000 We, the jury in the above entitled action, further find the special circumstance that the defendant, Orethal James Simpson, has in this case been convicted of at least one crime of murder of the first degree and one or more crimes of murder of the first or second degree to be not true.
00:20:29.000 Signed this second day of October 1995, juror 230.
00:20:34.000 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, is this your verdict?
00:20:37.000 So say you won, so say you all.
00:20:39.000 Yes.
00:20:39.000 All right, counsel.
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00:21:45.000 Same exact time period.
00:21:47.000 Here's the report on the difference between how Black Americans and White Americans responded to the very obviously wrong verdict of O.J.
00:21:53.000 Simpson, not guilty.
00:21:55.000 Here's a poll.
00:21:55.000 Okay, so these are the polling data.
00:21:58.000 In 1994, when the murders first happened, 63% of White Americans thought that O.J.
00:22:04.000 Simpson was guilty.
00:22:06.000 22% of Black Americans thought that he was guilty.
00:22:11.000 22%.
00:22:12.000 So 8 in 10 Black Americans said he was not guilty.
00:22:15.000 Which is ridiculous.
00:22:17.000 By any stretch of the imagination, it's ridiculous.
00:22:21.000 By 1997, those numbers had changed just slightly.
00:22:23.000 Now 82% of white Americans said O.J.
00:22:26.000 Simpson was guilty.
00:22:28.000 Only 31% of black Americans said O.J.
00:22:31.000 Simpson was guilty.
00:22:32.000 Even as of 2015, only 57% of black Americans said O.J.
00:22:36.000 was guilty.
00:22:36.000 Now, that is a big difference, obviously.
00:22:38.000 As I said, as time went on, as this became not the center of racial focus in the United States, more black Americans were willing to admit that he was guilty, because the reality, of course, is that he was totally guilty.
00:22:49.000 So by 2015, a majority of both whites and blacks said O.J.
00:22:52.000 Simpson was guilty.
00:22:54.000 But the point is, why should there be a racial differential when it comes to the guilt of a person who is very, very obviously guilty?
00:23:00.000 And if you go back to the time, again, you can see how black people and white people responded incredibly differently to the verdict, acquitting a double murderer.
00:23:11.000 Oh, the jury's all coming out!
00:23:13.000 A long 10 minutes passed and then...
00:23:16.000 Oh, my God, Jason. I'm not guilty of...
00:23:19.000 Oh, my God! I'm not guilty!
00:23:24.000 Here the crowd is mostly jubilant.
00:23:26.000 Not guilty!
00:23:28.000 LAPD guilty!
00:23:31.000 We brought a TV to the Juice Club where patrons began watching the verdict with a poker face only to be shattered.
00:23:38.000 We the jury in the above entitled action find the defendant, Orinzal James Simpson, not guilty of a crime of murder in
00:23:45.000 violation of penal code section 187A, a felony upon Nicole Brown Simpson.
00:23:50.000 Granted, they were sequestered for a long time and they haven't been exposed to what we have, but God.
00:23:57.000 So that you can afford a big shot lawyer and they'll have a lot of money for the case, you can get off with anything.
00:24:02.000 You know what? Johnny Cochran will be a rich guy. He will make a fortune. He will get lots of clients now.
00:24:09.000 And I hope that he can sleep at night because he got a double, a double murder off the case.
00:24:13.000 He's going to go home and feel happy. And what about his kids? How can he even look at his kids?
00:24:17.000 Now in subsequent years, it became even more obvious, of course, that OJ was guilty and OJ would joke about the
00:24:23.000 murders.
00:24:24.000 In fact, there's tape of a person named Ruby Wax talking about being accosted by O.J.
00:24:28.000 Simpson on April Fool's, where he shouted her, I did it, April Fool's.
00:24:34.000 Just what a delightful human being O.J.
00:24:35.000 must have been.
00:24:37.000 I did a piece to camera saying, I've been fixed up and I don't know who my date is going to be.
00:24:42.000 And we put him in the hallway and then I opened the door and it would be him.
00:24:47.000 But when he was out there, all the trays were out there and he was looking for a knife.
00:24:52.000 To fool me when the door was open.
00:24:54.000 But there was no knife, so he grabbed a banana.
00:25:00.000 And then OJ called me up on April Fool's Day in London and said, I killed her.
00:25:08.000 And then went, April Fool's.
00:25:10.000 What a delightful person.
00:25:11.000 And in a 2006 Fox interview, OJ went even further.
00:25:14.000 He gave a hypothetical account of how he would have, in fact, killed his ex-wife, as well as Ronald Goldman.
00:25:21.000 Here is that 2006 Fox interview.
00:25:24.000 Here's how he describes the crucial moments of June 12, 1994, an account which he repeatedly insists is hypothetical.
00:25:32.000 As things got heated, I just remember Nicole fell and hurt herself.
00:25:40.000 And this guy kind of got into a karate thing.
00:25:44.000 And I said, well, you think you can kick my ass?
00:25:46.000 And I remember I grabbed a knife.
00:25:48.000 I do remember that portion, taking a knife from Charlie.
00:25:51.000 And to be honest, after that, I don't remember, except I'm standing there.
00:25:56.000 Simpson infers he blacked out and laughs bizarrely.
00:26:00.000 I hate to say this.
00:26:04.000 I know we gotta back up again.
00:26:06.000 And he says he was standing in blood.
00:26:08.000 I don't think any two people could be murdered the way they were without everybody being covered in blood.
00:26:16.000 Okay.
00:26:16.000 So.
00:26:17.000 He obviously did it.
00:26:18.000 Obviously.
00:26:19.000 But even today, there are people who are trying to make excuses for why O.J.
00:26:23.000 was acquitted.
00:26:23.000 Because the real question isn't really why O.J.
00:26:25.000 did what he did.
00:26:26.000 The answer is that he was a sociopathic murderer.
00:26:29.000 And he murdered two people.
00:26:31.000 In cold blood.
00:26:32.000 The real question is why the legal system did what it did and why Americans reacted the way that they did.
00:26:36.000 We'll get to more on this in a moment.
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00:27:41.000 Eugene Robinson has a piece.
00:27:43.000 In the Washington Post, of course, Eugene Robinson is a black columnist for the Washington Post.
00:27:47.000 And here's what he writes, quote, Has theater and his legal circus, Simpson's murder trial has never been surpassed or even equaled.
00:27:52.000 Its characters were vivid to the point of being indelible.
00:27:54.000 Eager to please Judge Lance Ito, dutiful but overmatched prosecutors, Marsha Clark and Chris Darden, slick and razor sharp defense lawyers, Johnny Cochran and Effley Bailey, house guests, Brian Kato Kaelin, Simpson's friend and counselor, Robert Kardashian, progenitor of all things Kardashian, racist detective Mark Furman, in a non-speaking role, the bloody glove.
00:28:11.000 Faced with the prospect of spending the rest of his life in prison, OJ embraced his blackness.
00:28:15.000 His professed new racial consciousness allowed some black Americans to at least consider the possibility that he was yet another black man being brutalized by a racist justice system.
00:28:23.000 After all, the trial was taking place just three years after the LA riots sparked when the police officers who savagely beat Rodney King were judged to have done nothing wrong.
00:28:30.000 The evidence against Simpson was overwhelming, even though the murder weapon and knife was never found.
00:28:33.000 The trial took 11 months.
00:28:34.000 It took the jury less than four hours to reach its shocking verdict, not guilty.
00:28:38.000 And then Eugene Robinson writes this, and it's fascinating.
00:28:40.000 He says, I have not a scintilla of doubt that he committed the murders.
00:28:43.000 In 2007, Simpson even had the gall to write a book, If I Did It, which he said was a hypothetical narrative of how he would have committed the crime, wink, but of course he didn't.
00:28:50.000 He often blathered on about how police should be out there looking for the real killer who was supposedly still out there somewhere.
00:28:55.000 In 2008, Simpson was convicted in Las Vegas of armed robbery and other charges and given a harsh 33-year prison sentence.
00:29:02.000 But he was released on parole in 2017 and he spent the rest of his healthy years playing golf.
00:29:06.000 It was a diminished life to be sure.
00:29:07.000 He had just a fraction of his one-time wealth and status.
00:29:09.000 His celebrity was of the most tarnished kind.
00:29:11.000 His need for adulation would never again be requited.
00:29:13.000 He was a pariah.
00:29:14.000 But O.J.
00:29:15.000 Simpson died a free man.
00:29:17.000 He zigged and zagged all his life and never quite got caught.
00:29:20.000 That's a rather ambivalent ending for a person who is a double murderer who got off.
00:29:25.000 And the basic idea that there is some underlying question of justice with regard to O.J.
00:29:29.000 Simpson that would have allowed for the moral imprimatur to be placed upon his acquittal is foolishness.
00:29:35.000 And it's not just foolishness.
00:29:36.000 It is morally It is morally unrighteous foolishness.
00:29:41.000 O.J.
00:29:41.000 Simpson was a double murderer.
00:29:42.000 He should have gone to jail.
00:29:44.000 And if you believe that questions of race should have taken precedence over questions of actual blood guilt, this makes you a bad person.
00:29:51.000 That is not how justice works.
00:29:53.000 When social justice, which is what we're talking about here, trumps individual justice, when the idea is that a racial narrative about, a true racial narrative about black victimhood in America is supposed to trump the fact that a black man killed two white people, you have lost the threat of decency and morality.
00:30:08.000 Justice cannot work under these circumstances.
00:30:10.000 It is a perfect encapsulation, the O.J.
00:30:12.000 Simpson case, of why social justice is a lie and individual justice is true, and why it was so wildly unjust for O.J.
00:30:19.000 Simpson to be let off the hook for the murder.
00:30:24.000 It's, again, incredible that this was controversial at the time.
00:30:28.000 Do you think that there are members of the jury that voted to acquit O.J.
00:30:32.000 because of Rodney King?
00:30:33.000 Yes.
00:30:33.000 You do?
00:30:33.000 Yes.
00:30:33.000 How many of you think felt that way?
00:30:35.000 was one of the jurors in the OJ Simpson case explaining exactly why OJ Simpson was let
00:30:41.000 off.
00:30:42.000 Do you think that they're members of the jury that voted to acquit OJ because of Rodney
00:30:49.000 King?
00:30:50.000 Yes.
00:30:51.000 You do?
00:30:52.000 Yes.
00:30:53.000 How many of you think felt that way?
00:30:55.000 Oh, probably 90 percent.
00:31:01.000 Ninety percent.
00:31:01.000 Bye.
00:31:03.000 Did you feel that way?
00:31:04.000 Yes.
00:31:06.000 That was payback?
00:31:08.000 Uh-huh.
00:31:09.000 You think that's right?
00:31:10.000 Okay, if your answer to is it right to acquit a double murderer because a few years earlier there was a controversial case in which white police officers beat a black man and then ended up being acquitted of particular charges.
00:31:27.000 If your answer to is that morally right is That makes you the villain in this story.
00:31:32.000 If you were the juror who let off O.J.
00:31:34.000 Simpson, you're the villain in this story.
00:31:37.000 The proper answer comes courtesy of all people, from Stephen A. Smith.
00:31:41.000 Stephen A. Smith had this exactly right.
00:31:42.000 Yesterday, he was covering the O.J.
00:31:45.000 Simpson death, and here's what he had to say.
00:31:47.000 But in the end, speaking directly about OJ Simpson, again, this is what it comes down to.
00:31:52.000 Most people believe that he committed those murders.
00:31:57.000 I know that if I was on the jury, he would have been under the damn jail.
00:32:01.000 I know that much.
00:32:01.000 I believe he was guilty, but I don't know.
00:32:04.000 I'm talking about based on the evidence that was placed before us.
00:32:07.000 During the trial, overseen by Judge Lanzito, this is what we saw on national television, and by most accounts, you found yourself believing he was guilty as hell.
00:32:18.000 And in the end, that's what this comes down to.
00:32:21.000 That's what it should come down to.
00:32:23.000 Unfortunately, that is not what it came down to.
00:32:26.000 The question is, if you're going to have a good and righteous America, questions of individual justice must take precedent over foolish narratives about the evils of one group or the evils of another group.
00:32:39.000 If anything else is the prevailing moral standard, society will break apart.
00:32:45.000 That's what the O.J.
00:32:45.000 Simpson trial should have taught us, and we should have remembered it.
00:32:48.000 Alrighty, in just one second we'll talk about Joe Biden's flagging campaign.
00:32:52.000 First, ladies and gentlemen, the verdict is in.
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00:33:36.000 Also, We had the opportunity this week to sit down with the brand new president of Argentina, Javier Mille.
00:33:42.000 He's a transformative figure, a fascinating figure.
00:33:46.000 Faced with a country on the verge of fiscal collapse, he took over and actually fulfilled his campaign pledge to take a chainsaw to the size and scope of government and get that country's fiscal house back in order.
00:33:57.000 Fascinating interview.
00:33:59.000 Here's a little bit of a taste.
00:34:00.000 How come My approval ratings have gone up, and the intention of people to vote for me has also increased.
00:34:13.000 It means that the culture battle is bearing fruit, and the Argentine people have decided to mature, put on long pants, do things right, once and for all.
00:34:27.000 It goes well beyond the individual Javier Millet.
00:34:31.000 This means that the Argentine people have decided to espouse freedom and that is the best message.
00:34:42.000 That is some of our Sunday special that is coming out on Sunday.
00:34:45.000 Make sure you check it out.
00:34:46.000 One of the most important people on the planet right now, not just because he's the leader of a relatively large country, but also because he happens to be an example that the West is going to follow to success or ignore to its own perils.
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00:35:05.000 Meanwhile, Joe Biden continues to lag in the polls.
00:35:08.000 He has had a little bit of a momentum builder with regard to the national polling data.
00:35:12.000 In fact, five out of the last Eight polls have Joe Biden either tied or ahead in the polling data.
00:35:19.000 Reuters Ipsos now has him up 41-37 over Donald Trump.
00:35:22.000 INI and TIPP has Biden up 43-40 over Trump.
00:35:25.000 Morning Consult has Trump up 1-44-43.
00:35:28.000 So whatever you say, this is a very, very close election by every shape or measure.
00:35:33.000 That in and of itself is a referendum on how bad a president Joe Biden is.
00:35:37.000 And the economy now seems to be going the wrong way on him again because inflation is in fact an embedded fact of life under Joe Biden.
00:35:43.000 Mortgage rates, according to the Wall Street Journal, Again, rose to nearly 7%, which is incredibly high for most of my lifetime.
00:35:49.000 Mortgage rates you could get at like 3, 4%.
00:35:50.000 Now you're talking about mortgage rates at 7%, which is a giant chunk of your money over a long period of time.
00:35:57.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, the average rate on the standard 30-year fixed mortgage rose to 6.88% according to a survey of lenders released on Thursday by Freddie Mac.
00:36:04.000 That's up from 6.82% a week earlier.
00:36:08.000 So, once again, those rates are really, really high.
00:36:11.000 It makes it very difficult not only for somebody to get a new loan, but also makes it very difficult for somebody to sell their current house and get a loan to buy another house, which means that the stock of housing on the market is peculiarly sticky.
00:36:21.000 There's not enough housing on the market because I'm not going to sell my house to get a new one when my 30-year Fixed rate is at three and a half percent.
00:36:28.000 And in order for me to sell and get a new house, I'm going to have to jump to a seven percent rate.
00:36:32.000 Now, Fed rate cuts are being called into question.
00:36:35.000 So all this year, we've been told by the Biden administration and by the press that the rate cuts are coming because inflation will be tamed.
00:36:41.000 And then finally, the money will flow freely, loosely, easily again.
00:36:45.000 IPOs will start to be successful again.
00:36:47.000 New investments will be made possible and all the rest.
00:36:50.000 And it doesn't look like that's going to happen anytime in the very near future, according to The Wall Street Journal.
00:36:55.000 Another firmer-than-anticipated inflation report delivered a meaningful setback Wednesday to the Federal Reserve's hope that it could buoy prospects of a so-called soft landing by dialing back on some of the past year's interest rate increases.
00:37:05.000 Solid hiring and the prospect that inflation might settle out closer to 3% than 2% could call into question whether the central bank will be able to cut rates until much later in the year without evidence of a sharper slowdown in the economy.
00:37:16.000 This is the third straight month in which prices were hotter than expected.
00:37:19.000 And it sends officials back to an uneasy holding pattern, where they wait several more months for either better inflation data or the type of evident economic weakness that they were hoping to avoid.
00:37:29.000 So Joe Biden's economy continues to superheat.
00:37:33.000 That is because, again, he tossed too much money into an already overheated economy that was already plagued by supply chain problems.
00:37:38.000 Too much money following too few goods equals inflation.
00:37:42.000 And this is having significant dire ramification for his polling.
00:37:45.000 So Roy Tishera, who is the most prescient commentator on the left when it comes to elections, Reuters shares most famous for his theory back in 2004 that Democrats would be able to build a majority-minority coalition and then lead that coalition to victory.
00:37:59.000 And then it turns out he had to dissociate himself from his own theory because it turns out it wasn't true in 2016 or even in 2020.
00:38:05.000 He doesn't think it'll be true in 2024 either.
00:38:07.000 So now he is saying to Democrats, you guys are way too far out on the left on pretty much every issue.
00:38:11.000 He says, if you want to win, you have to do three things.
00:38:13.000 One, you have to move to the center on culture issues.
00:38:16.000 Two, you have to promote what he calls an abundance agenda.
00:38:18.000 And three, you have to embrace patriotism and liberal nationalism.
00:38:22.000 But the second one is the one that really Joe Biden was supposed to be able to do well with, and he's just not.
00:38:28.000 Everybody knows he's too radical for the American public on social issues, like way too radical, and particularly for minorities, who are not actually socially radical on a lot of these issues.
00:38:35.000 But the bigger problem for Joe Biden is that a stagnating economy is going to sink him.
00:38:40.000 A really burning great economy under Joe Biden, where people felt great about the economy, might make up for his cultural shortcomings.
00:38:48.000 But if the economy is stagnating and He is way out of touch with the American public, particularly minorities, Hispanic, black minorities, with regards to social issues.
00:38:57.000 He's got a real problem on his hands.
00:38:59.000 As Roy Teshara points out, the left has been talking about the economy as though the American people are just nuts, that they've made some sort of huge mistake, the American people.
00:39:08.000 But the reality is that there is something else going on here.
00:39:11.000 Roy Tishera says, Given all this, why do voters still believe the economy is so bad?
00:39:14.000 to the bleak record on the abundance front.
00:39:15.000 The first is what I call the deluded ungrateful wretches theory.
00:39:18.000 The idea here is that the economy's recent record has been stellar.
00:39:21.000 Low unemployment, strong job creation, smartly rising wages and inflation
00:39:24.000 that has declined sharply from recent highs.
00:39:27.000 Given all this, why do voters still believe the economy is so bad?
00:39:29.000 They're deluded.
00:39:31.000 But, he says, there's quite a strong case that in terms of the lived experience
00:39:34.000 of voters, particularly working class voters, things have not, in fact, been great.
00:39:37.000 The primary suspect, of course, is inflation, which is still relatively high, and in June of 2022 reached 9%, the highest inflation rate the country had experienced since 1981.
00:39:45.000 People absolutely hate inflation, since it directly undercuts living standards, and they're reminded of this fact every time they go to the grocery store.
00:39:52.000 Heather Long of the Washington Post recently collected data on changes in inflation, hourly earnings, and household purchases since Joe Biden took office.
00:39:59.000 What she found is that cumulative inflation has outpaced average hourly earning growth, and the rise in many consumer prices has been even larger than overall inflation.
00:40:07.000 Rent and meat are up 20%.
00:40:08.000 Restaurants and groceries are up 21%.
00:40:10.000 Electricity is up 28%.
00:40:12.000 Gas, 35%.
00:40:13.000 Eggs, 37%.
00:40:16.000 Meanwhile, average hourly wages are up only 15%.
00:40:18.000 So if inflation outpaces all of those things, then you feel like the economy is getting worse for you.
00:40:26.000 Roger Lowenstein, an economics commentator, points out that the median household income went up 10.5% under Donald Trump before the pandemic.
00:40:33.000 However, under Biden, inflation has snatched away the gains from even a very strong labor market over his first two years, as price hikes outran wages.
00:40:40.000 Real median household income actually fell 2.7%.
00:40:44.000 The census hasn't reported median income for 2023, but given that real wages were up about 1% through November, the cumulative change in household median income adjusted for inflation over Biden's first three years is likely to be in the range of mildly negative to very mildly positive.
00:40:57.000 In other words, the country did not make progress in improving living standards under Joe Biden.
00:41:01.000 And that's what's happening here.
00:41:02.000 Even CNN is pointing this out.
00:41:05.000 Here is CNN explaining that Americans are not buying what Joe Biden is trying to sell here.
00:41:11.000 Now out on the road, President Biden has tried to point to some of those positive indicators over the past few months.
00:41:17.000 The fact that unemployment is down, the fact that wages are rising, and that the overall inflation trend is also lowering.
00:41:24.000 But even as he's trying to highlight those positive aspects of the economy, what Americans are feeling is completely different.
00:41:30.000 Okay, that is right, because Donald Trump was better on economic issues than Joe Biden.
00:41:33.000 recent national polls from Marquette, it found that the majority of voters believed that
00:41:38.000 the economy is either not so good or poor.
00:41:41.000 And then when you stack up President Biden against former President Donald Trump, more
00:41:45.000 believe that Trump is better on economic issues than President Biden.
00:41:49.000 OK, that is right, because Donald Trump was better on economic issues than Joe Biden.
00:41:53.000 So Democrats, faced with the prospect of having to admit that their programs are a failure
00:41:58.000 when they spend too much money, that a huge percentage of the job creation right now is
00:42:01.000 in government sector jobs.
00:42:04.000 Instead, they're going to go with the first theory that Tishera mentioned, the ungrateful wretches theory.
00:42:08.000 Here's Whoopi Goldberg doing that routine saying, guys, inflation is not Joe Biden's fault.
00:42:12.000 You guys just don't understand economics like Whoopi Goldberg does.
00:42:16.000 What I hear when I talk to undecideds is the grocery bills are- But if people knew civics, they would know that that's not- Listen, he doesn't- There are absolutely things that Biden can do to address it, and grocery prices have jumped 25% over four years.
00:42:31.000 What can he do?
00:42:32.000 Hang on one real quick.
00:42:33.000 This is the reality.
00:42:34.000 It's the most immediate and repetitive thing.
00:42:37.000 You have to buy groceries every week.
00:42:39.000 We get that.
00:42:39.000 We get all of that.
00:42:40.000 But the question is, what do you want him to do?
00:42:44.000 Because what can he do?
00:42:45.000 He can challenge the major grocery chains if he wants to.
00:42:48.000 Here's the thing, you know, people are **** if he does stuff, they're **** if he doesn't do stuff.
00:42:53.000 Listen, he's doing what he's supposed to be doing.
00:42:56.000 He's doing what he's supposed to be doing.
00:42:57.000 But I'm pissed off.
00:42:59.000 Americans are spending 11% of their income on food.
00:43:02.000 I'm an American.
00:43:03.000 I'm a little pissed off about having overpriced stuff, but I'll tell you what I'm really pissed off about.
00:43:08.000 I'm really pissed off that people seem to think that the American citizen is a wallet where you can just dip your hand in it.
00:43:19.000 Wait, hold up.
00:43:20.000 So you're pissed off that your taxes are too high?
00:43:22.000 Because you should vote for Trump then.
00:43:24.000 Whoopee.
00:43:25.000 And yes, the president has something to do with this.
00:43:28.000 The president is the one who is generating massive outsized spending along with his Senate majority.
00:43:34.000 Corine Jean-Pierre, for her part, she's out there trying to attribute inflation to Russia still.
00:43:38.000 Again, this is not going to work for them.
00:43:40.000 When the president took office, and you know this, there was a pandemic.
00:43:43.000 It was closing down businesses, closing down schools.
00:43:46.000 And so it was drastically disrupting the supply chain.
00:43:50.000 Let's not forget about that.
00:43:52.000 And so that's what was going on.
00:43:55.000 And that caused inflation around the world to increase.
00:43:57.000 We know that.
00:43:59.000 And then further increasing inflation was the Russia's war, Russia's war in Ukraine.
00:44:05.000 And in fact, many other countries are even worse off because of that, because of what we've seen with Russia's war.
00:44:12.000 Okay, that is not because of Russia's war, and everybody knows that.
00:44:16.000 But again, this is Joe Biden's presidency, and Joe Biden's presidency is a failure on pretty much all fronts.
00:44:21.000 It's bad domestically.
00:44:22.000 It is far worse on the foreign front.
00:44:24.000 We'll get to more on this in a moment.
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00:45:27.000 Joe Biden has a stated policy now of not allowing American allies to win wars, to not even define victory in a way that would allow for the winning of wars.
00:45:36.000 So Joe Biden has put forward a completely discombobulated policy with regard to Ukraine.
00:45:40.000 He slow-walked weapons in the early days when, actually, Ukraine had the opportunity to push back against Russian aggression far more aggressively before they could become totally entrenched, building World War I lines in Donbass and Crimea, for example.
00:45:53.000 Now he sent out his defense secretary, Lloyd Austin, to try the Ukrainians for hitting Russian oil refineries in the middle of a war because apparently that's going to impact world oil prices.
00:46:02.000 So he'd really prefer that they hit military targets.
00:46:04.000 When you're fighting a war, you have to hit the targets that are available, including, for example, the source of Russia's actual wealth, its oil refineries.
00:46:12.000 But meanwhile, the Biden administration is chiding the Ukrainians about all of that.
00:46:16.000 So completely discombobulated policy when it comes to Ukraine.
00:46:19.000 Even more discombobulated policy when it comes to Israel defeating the terrorist group Hamas.
00:46:24.000 Iran, for its part, is feeling its oats at this moment.
00:46:27.000 Iran is now suggesting that they are going to attack Israel, perhaps directly,
00:46:30.000 over the course of the next couple of days, according to the Wall Street Journal.
00:46:33.000 Israel is preparing for a direct attack from Iran on southern or northern Israel as soon as Friday or Saturday, according to a person familiar with the matter.
00:46:39.000 A person briefed by Iranian leadership said, while attack plans are being discussed, no final decision has been made, but Americans in Israel are now being restricted from any personal travel outside of central Israel, which is like Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, and Beersheba.
00:46:57.000 Which means that the Americans think that Iran is going to, perhaps, directly strike Israel.
00:47:01.000 Now, if that happens, then Israel will directly strike Iran.
00:47:04.000 And that will have been brought about by a policy of weakness by the United States.
00:47:07.000 Again, when you draw lines, and those lines are perfectly obvious to everyone, third-rate nations like Iran, in terms of military power, do not violate those lines.
00:47:16.000 But the Biden administration is much more focused on limiting Israel and trying to create daylight between Israel and itself, for the voters in Dearborn, Michigan, than they are in actually allowing Israel to win its war.
00:47:26.000 In any war, you want your allied forces to defeat and destroy the enemy as fast as humanly possible because that sends the message to all of the enemy nations that if they mess with you or your allies, they will lose.
00:47:39.000 But when you create all this vast daylight over supposed lack of humanitarian aid in an area that is currently a war zone, then what you are doing is you're saying to Iran, you can basically do what you want and you can count on those voters in Dearborn, Michigan to pressure Joe Biden to do nothing.
00:47:55.000 Meanwhile, you have members of the Democratic coalition like Nancy Pelosi out there still talking about conditioning aid to Israel as Iran threatens direct strikes on Israel.
00:48:04.000 Well, I think that is a very contained requirement until you have an investigation of how this happened with cars that are marked very clearly.
00:48:18.000 Marked very clearly to be humanitarian assistance.
00:48:21.000 So, Israel says that they are going to have an investigation.
00:48:25.000 They've begun such a thing, fired a couple of people.
00:48:27.000 But I think we have to have also an independent commission.
00:48:31.000 That's not required by the letter.
00:48:32.000 The letter is simple.
00:48:34.000 Until you have an investigation, we should withhold.
00:48:36.000 They are having an investigation.
00:48:38.000 I think it was a very contained letter.
00:48:41.000 So she's trying to walk back now, what she was actually saying, but it's a little bit too late because Iran already took the message.
00:48:46.000 Meanwhile, Karine Jean-Pierre was asked whether the Biden administration actually directly warned Iran, like, don't do this.
00:48:52.000 Because remember, Joe Biden keeps saying things like don't, and then Iran does.
00:48:55.000 So Karine Jean-Pierre has no idea.
00:48:56.000 She has no clue.
00:48:59.000 I just want to clarify one of your earlier answers.
00:49:01.000 Did the administration send a direct warning to Iran not to attack Israel?
00:49:06.000 We've been very clear.
00:49:08.000 I mean, you heard from the president, right?
00:49:10.000 And laid out our commitment to Israel and make sure Israel's security, that continues.
00:49:16.000 And so we've had those conversations.
00:49:17.000 I'm just not going to go into back and forth.
00:49:19.000 Okay, well, you're not going to because the answer is that Joe Biden does not have credible threats in his arsenal.
00:49:24.000 He is the most uncredible president on American foreign policy.
00:49:28.000 I would say in my lifetime, Barack Obama was in my lifetime as well, and so was Bill Clinton.
00:49:31.000 So he's just as non-credible on foreign policy threats as other Democratic presidents, it turns out.
00:49:36.000 Meanwhile, the Biden administration putting pressure on Israel to somehow come to a deal with Hamas, despite the fact that Hamas doesn't even tell Israel how many live hostages it currently has, has demonstrated no willingness to come to the table on anything remotely resembling a reasonable proposal.
00:49:50.000 Israel is about to give up Or would give up.
00:49:52.000 Literally hundreds of murderers in favor of whatever remaining women, children, and men are alive under Hamas hostage negotiations.
00:50:02.000 And Hamas is doing nothing.
00:50:04.000 And the Biden administration is putting pressure on Israel.
00:50:06.000 Here, even Bernie Sanders, the most anti-Israel member of the Senate caucus, even Bernie is admitting that Hamas isn't releasing hostages.
00:50:13.000 Senior Hamas officials said on Wednesday they don't have the 40 living hostages in Gaza who meet the criteria for an exchange.
00:50:19.000 You know, obviously any deal has to have some reciprocity and hostage release is one of them.
00:50:24.000 And now you've got Hamas saying we don't have them.
00:50:28.000 Look, this is a nightmare on top of a nightmare.
00:50:31.000 I mean, I read that.
00:50:35.000 Who knows?
00:50:35.000 Who knows how they died, why they died?
00:50:39.000 But obviously, you're absolutely right.
00:50:41.000 Our hostage exchange people now have been held under terrible conditions for months, and Israel has a right to demand their release.
00:50:50.000 And that has got to be part of any package.
00:50:52.000 Israel has a right to demand their release, but Bernie will then call on Israel's aid to be cut off in its attempt to extirpate the group that took the hostages in the first place.
00:51:00.000 No wonder Iran feels that it can get away with pretty much anything.
00:51:04.000 Meanwhile, the Republican caucus continues to descend into further chaos, this time over a FISA renewal bill.
00:51:11.000 So the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, as we discussed yesterday on the program, Section 702, allows for the surveillance of foreign intelligence data.
00:51:19.000 So a foreigner is using his phone and you can now use surveillance methods
00:51:25.000 from the intelligence community to look at things like phone calls and metadata,
00:51:28.000 not the actual content of the phone calls, for example, but where the phone calls are being made to,
00:51:32.000 where they're being made from and all the rest.
00:51:35.000 Well, there's been a lot of Republican angst over section 702 because there were not protections in
00:51:39.000 place that prevented the abuse of the FISA process
00:51:41.000 with regard to Carter Page.
00:51:42.000 Carter Page was a low-level foreign policy advisor to the Trump campaign in 2015-2016, who was then targeted with a false FISA warrant and wiretapped.
00:51:52.000 And that became a cause celeb on the right for good reason because the warrant that was originally given was predicated on nothing.
00:51:59.000 It was predicated basically on a bunch of false statements by the Hillary Clinton campaign that was then laundered via the CIA and FBI into a FISA warrant that led to a wiretapping of Carter Page.
00:52:08.000 So the question is, how do you stop all of that?
00:52:11.000 Well, the Republican proposal in the House that they want is a warrant for every search of American data inside that FISA surveillance network.
00:52:19.000 So you have a low-level guy, he wants to type in an American name, and now they need a warrant in order to type in the American name.
00:52:25.000 That would be the change that Republicans are seeking.
00:52:27.000 Which is fine, except for the fact that apparently Getting a warrant in the FISA process via FISA court is really, really easy.
00:52:34.000 So easy that one could be gotten on Carter Page on the basis of nothing.
00:52:36.000 The alternative proposal is that any such search has to be elevated up the chain of command up to the deputy FBI director.
00:52:43.000 And basically you have to have eyes on and explicit approval of any search for an American name in the FISA intelligence database.
00:52:50.000 That's the debate right now happening between some Republicans and other Republicans.
00:52:53.000 The stakes are that FISA as a whole expires.
00:52:56.000 If FISA as a whole expires, America will no longer have eyes on foreigners with terror connections.
00:53:01.000 It will just disappear.
00:53:02.000 This is why Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, has been pushing for what he calls a compromise proposal until Republicans actually have control of, you know, the other two elected parts of the government, the Senate and the presidency.
00:53:12.000 What he keeps saying is, listen, you keep telling me you want to go for broke on this bill and you're willing to let FISA expire in order to do that.
00:53:18.000 Well, I'm just telling you, if you do that, it will expire because the Senate will not approve any such bill and the president will not approve any such bill and FISA will expire.
00:53:26.000 And then, God forbid, there's a terror attack and Americans get killed.
00:53:28.000 Guess who's going to get blamed?
00:53:29.000 The Republicans for letting FISA expire.
00:53:32.000 So here is Mike Johnson explaining why he used to be for stricter requirements on FISA warrants, for example, and why he has flipped on this.
00:53:41.000 I saw the abuses of the FBI, the terrible abuses over and over and over, the hundreds of thousands of abuses.
00:53:46.000 And then when I became Speaker, I went to the SCF and got the confidential briefing from sort of the other perspective on that to understand the necessity of Section 702 of FISA and how important it is for national security.
00:53:56.000 And it gave me a different perspective.
00:53:58.000 So I encourage all the members to go to the classified briefing and hear all that and see it so they can evaluate the situation for themselves.
00:54:06.000 Some opinions have changed both ways, but that's part of the process.
00:54:08.000 You've got to be fully informed.
00:54:10.000 Former Attorney General Bill Barr spoke about what exactly these FISA surveillance processes look like, how they're used, why they're important.
00:54:17.000 Here he was explaining.
00:54:19.000 We're faced with probably the greatest threat to the homeland from terrorist attack, and our primary means of defending against that is FISA.
00:54:34.000 And to take that tool away, I think, is going to result in a successful terrorist attack and a loss of life.
00:54:46.000 Well, Johnson took a while in negotiating this.
00:54:49.000 He was trying to push it forward.
00:54:50.000 He didn't have the votes inside the Republican caucus because Marjorie Taylor Greene has been threatening that she's going to push forward a motion to vacate and try to actually push that to its conclusion if he were to push forward a bill on the FISA surveillance.
00:55:03.000 Again, he's being held hostage by a very small minority of his coalition.
00:55:07.000 But because those negotiations were taking place, that gave President Trump a chance to sign into the chat.
00:55:12.000 President Trump then did, and he put out on Truth Social, quote, kill FISA.
00:55:15.000 It was illegally used against me and many others.
00:55:17.000 They spied on my campaign.
00:55:19.000 OK, well, that is not an actual proper solution.
00:55:21.000 Killing FISA altogether is something that pretty much no Republicans are in favor of, because killing FISA altogether means that if you have Al Qaeda members or ISIS members in the United States, you can't actively use electronic measures of surveillance like their metadata.
00:55:33.000 in order to track who they are talking to, which is a major problem.
00:55:35.000 Instead, Johnson is now proposing a compromise solution, which would allow the extension of FISA 702 to be reauthorized
00:55:42.000 for two years, rather than for five. And then he's saying when Trump gets
00:55:45.000 elected, and when we have a larger House majority and a Senate
00:55:48.000 majority, then we can make exactly the kind of changes that we want.
00:55:51.000 In the meantime, we can't let FISA expire.
00:55:53.000 So let's make the changes that we can make for the moment.
00:55:55.000 Now again, this goes to the job of what the Speaker is supposed to do.
00:55:59.000 The Speaker is supposed to cobble together the best deal possible, not the magical utopian deal that doesn't exist in reality where, you know, Chuck Schumer is the Senate Majority Leader, thanks in part to the intervention of Donald Trump in two Georgia Senate races that should have been Republican.
00:56:13.000 Not to mention the fact that the President of the United States is currently a Democrat.
00:56:16.000 Johnson is faced with the unenviable task of trying to explain reality to a fringe group of Republicans who actually do not seem to care about reality and are posturing for, what, limelight and glory?
00:56:28.000 You get the best deal you can.
00:56:30.000 There are certain practical Republicans who disagree with Mike Johnson on a lot of matters.
00:56:33.000 People like Chip Roy from Texas.
00:56:34.000 I really like Chip.
00:56:35.000 I think he's a really good principled conservative.
00:56:37.000 Chip Roy spends his political capital trying to make specific changes to bills as a general rule.
00:56:43.000 And he may disagree with Johnson on where the leverage points are, or disagree with McCarthy on where the leverage points are, but he's trying to make specific changes to specific things.
00:56:51.000 That is not the case with part of the Republican caucus, which is why the place is so damned unworkable.
00:56:56.000 Here are a bunch of Republicans in the House lamenting the unworkability of the current very, very slim Republican majority.
00:57:02.000 Bitter GOP infighting derailing the GOP agenda and now threatening Speaker Mike Johnson's job as he weighs major decisions over the FBI spying power and providing billions in aid to Ukraine, all as the threat to oust him continues to loom as Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene escalates her attacks.
00:57:21.000 The motion to vacate is real.
00:57:23.000 We can't continue to be led by our elected Speaker of the House that's passing the Democrat agenda.
00:57:30.000 Our voters will not tolerate that.
00:57:32.000 All of it enraging fellow Republicans.
00:57:35.000 This is incredibly reckless.
00:57:36.000 This is nothing more than just, look at me, no one else is paying attention, so here's my motion to vacate.
00:57:42.000 Now it's my time.
00:57:43.000 I think it's an absurdity that's unnecessary.
00:57:45.000 And frankly, it was a mistake when this Congress allowed it to happen to Kevin McCarthy.
00:57:49.000 It's an impossible job.
00:57:50.000 The Lord Jesus himself could not manage this conference.
00:57:54.000 this country, you just can't do it.
00:57:55.000 And by the way, that group of Republicans, that spans from very moderate Republicans
00:58:00.000 in New York, if you couldn't recognize their voices, because they're not particularly famous.
00:58:04.000 One is from New York, one is from Ohio, one is from Texas.
00:58:06.000 That spans the entire Republican caucus.
00:58:08.000 Everybody believes the conference is unworkable, which is why, presumably, Senators are not
00:58:12.000 Speaker Johnson is meeting with President Trump.
00:58:14.000 He wants to do an appearance with Trump because that shows the fellow Republicans that he is not anti-Trump and that Trump is in fact on his side.
00:58:19.000 And then he needs to kill the motion to vacate.
00:58:22.000 He needs to kill it dead.
00:58:23.000 And if that requires Democratic votes, he should do it.
00:58:26.000 And he should do it forthwith.
00:58:27.000 Because otherwise, he's not going to have anything remotely resembling a Republican House majority.
00:58:31.000 Speaker Johnson, I've been encouraging him for two weeks to do this because it is time to marginalize the marginal.
00:58:37.000 Enough of this.
00:58:37.000 You cannot govern a coalition when it is being held up by people who have no interest in governance or in the coalition itself.
00:58:45.000 They're more interested in shooting within the tent than they are in actually directing the fire outward.
00:58:51.000 It's absolute ridiculousness.
00:58:53.000 And it only helps Democrats.
00:58:55.000 Alrighty.
00:58:55.000 Coming up, we'll jump into the radicalism of the Democrats' environmental pitch.
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