The Ben Shapiro Show - OPERATION GREENLAND: Trump Takes Davos!

00:00:00.000 President Trump takes Davos.

00:00:01.000 He backs off of those gigantic tariffs on the EU.

00:00:04.000 But did he get a win on Greenland?

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00:00:07.000 We'll get to all of it first.

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00:02:40.000 Alrighty, so President Trump did something pretty extraordinary in Davos.

00:02:44.000 He gave a speech basically going directly at our European allies, telling them that they needed to up their game in terms of defense, in terms of economics, in terms of their own national sovereignty.

00:02:54.000 And then he pried a deal away from Denmark with regard to Greenland.

00:02:58.000 We'll get into the details of that because this makes the markets sanguine again.

00:03:02.000 The markets were very concerned about the possibility that President Trump was going to hit all of Europe with these gigantic tariffs based on a desire for sovereignty over all of Greenland.

00:03:12.000 Give us Greenland or we will tariff all of you. 1.00

00:03:14.000 That is no longer the case.

00:03:16.000 A deal has been cut.

00:03:17.000 What is that deal?

00:03:18.000 Well, European allies will claim that President Trump really didn't get much in the deal.

00:03:22.000 President Trump's supporters will claim that he got a lot in the deal.

00:03:24.000 We'll go through the details that we know about at the moment.

00:03:27.000 However, the really big story here is how the president of the United States is calling on Europe to stand up for itself.

00:03:33.000 And this, of course, follows hard on a speech given by the vice president, JD Vance, last year, in which he went to Europe and basically told them they need to reestablish their borders.

00:03:41.000 They need to stop falling prey to mass migration.

00:03:44.000 They need to allow their markets to actually function.

00:03:46.000 And they need to move away from an economy based largely on Russian oil and heavily regulated industry that means that Europe has been stagnating for decades.

00:03:58.000 So the president arrived in Davos.

00:04:00.000 It was a red carpet arrival.

00:04:01.000 Here is what it looked like.

00:04:04.000 That is a very, very long red carpet.

00:04:06.000 That is indeed a very, very literal long red carpet that the president walked down as he arrived in Davos.

00:04:12.000 And I will say the president was very funny.

00:04:14.000 He spoke for quite a while yesterday.

00:04:17.000 He began by saying that it was good to be here with many friends and also a few enemies.

00:04:23.000 It's great to be back in beautiful Davos, Switzerland, and to address so many respected business leaders, so many friends, few enemies.

00:04:38.000 He's always Trump.

00:04:39.000 Ask the thing about President Trump.

00:04:41.000 He never stops being Trump.

00:04:42.000 Well, President Trump started off his speech by saying, people suggest that he is anti-European, but of course he's of European descent.

00:04:48.000 He's both Scottish and German.

00:04:51.000 I am derived from Europe, Scotland and Germany.

00:04:56.000 100% Scotland, my mother, 100% German, my father.

00:05:03.000 And we believe deeply in the bonds we share with Europe as a civilization.

00:05:09.000 I want to see it do great.

00:05:11.000 That's why issues like energy, trade, immigration, and economic growth must be central concerns to anyone who wants to see a strong and united West.

00:05:22.000 Now, the president clocked Europe, calling it unrecognizable, suggesting that they had moved away from the principles that once made Europe the leading center of civilization.

00:05:32.000 The places where you come from can do much better by following what we're doing because certain places in Europe are not even recognizable, frankly, anymore.

00:05:42.000 They're not recognizable.

00:05:44.000 And we can argue about it, but there's no argument.

00:05:48.000 Friends come back from different places.

00:05:50.000 I don't want to insult anybody and say I don't recognize it.

00:05:55.000 And that's not in a positive way, in a very negative way.

00:05:58.000 And I love Europe, and I want to see Europe go good, but it's not heading in the right direction.

00:06:05.000 The president said that his goal in saying all of this wasn't just to dunk on the Europeans, obviously.

00:06:09.000 His goal was to revitalize what he called a precious culture shared by Americans and Europeans.

00:06:15.000 Here was the president at the World Economic Forum.

00:06:18.000 The explosion of prosperity and conclusion and progress that built the West did not come from our tax cuts.

00:06:28.000 It ultimately came from our very special culture.

00:06:32.000 This is the precious inheritance that America and Europe have in common.

00:06:36.000 We share it.

00:06:38.000 We share it, but we have to keep it strong.

00:06:41.000 We have to become stronger, more successful, and more prosperous than ever.

00:06:46.000 We have to defend that culture and rediscover the spirit that lifted the West from the depths of the Dark Ages to the pinnacle of human achievement.

00:06:56.000 The president also suggested, of course, that the Europeans have failed themselves in pursuing a green energy-based economy that has been a complete fail.

00:07:04.000 He is right about this.

00:07:05.000 Germany's economy particularly has suffered because of its reliance on so-called green energy, which is to say less reliable, less effective forms of energy, like, for example, windmills.

00:07:16.000 The president is not a fan of the gigantic windmill farms, and he made that very clear.

00:07:21.000 There are windmills all over Europe.

00:07:24.000 There are windmills all over the place.

00:07:27.000 And they are losers.

00:07:30.000 One thing I've noticed is that the more windmills a country has, the more money that country loses and the worst that country is doing.

00:07:39.000 China makes almost all of the windmills, and yet I haven't been able to find any wind farms in China.

00:07:45.000 Did you ever think of that?

00:07:46.000 It's a good way of looking at it.

00:07:48.000 They're smart.

00:07:48.000 China's very smart.

00:07:49.000 They make them.

00:07:50.000 They sell them for a fortune.

00:07:52.000 They sell them to the stupid people that buy them.

00:07:58.000 When the man's right, the man is right.

00:07:58.000 You know what?

00:08:00.000 Now, the president, of course, also made the case that under his tutelage, the United States has become significantly stronger.

00:08:07.000 He talked about how if America booms, the rest of the world also booms.

00:08:11.000 This is a domestic pitch for his constituents.

00:08:14.000 The USA is the economic engine on the planet.

00:08:17.000 And when America booms, the entire world booms.

00:08:20.000 It's been the history.

00:08:21.000 When it goes bad, it goes bad.

00:08:23.000 The whole we all, you all follow us down and you follow us up.

00:08:30.000 The president also talked about immigration in the United States, how he was ending illegal immigration in the United States and blowing drug boats out of the water and some of his domestic achievements as president of the United States.

00:08:42.000 But equally importantly, we're cracking down on more than $19 billion in fraud that was stolen by Somalian bandits. 0.95

00:08:51.000 Can you believe that Somalia, they turned out to be higher IQ than we thought? 1.00

00:08:56.000 I always say these are low IQ people.

00:08:58.000 How did they go into Minnesota and steal all that money?

00:09:01.000 And we have, you know, they're pirates.

00:09:02.000 They're good pirates, right?

00:09:04.000 But we shoot them out of the water just like we shoot the drug boats out. 0.57

00:09:07.000 They're not pirating too many boats lately, do you notice?

00:09:12.000 Man, the comedy routine here.

00:09:14.000 Now, the real message the president was there to deliver, of course, that the Europeans ought to be both independent, but also recognize that they are, in fact, reliant on the United States.

00:09:24.000 And so in that vein, he went after Mark Carney, who is the prime minister of Canada.

00:09:29.000 Of course, the reality is that Mark Carney would not be the prime minister of Canada if it had not been, I think, for the trade war declared on Canada by the United States, leading to the elevation of Carney in the polls in the late stages of an election against Pierre Polyev.

00:09:40.000 In any case, Mark Carney gave a peculiar address that we discussed a couple of days ago on the program with regard to the United States, in which he suggested that the era of American dominance was over.

00:09:53.000 And Trump basically said, well, that's weird since if it weren't for us, your continent would be a little bit more at risk.

00:09:59.000 We are your defense shield.

00:10:01.000 We're building a golden dome that's going to, just by its very nature, going to be defending Canada.

00:10:10.000 Canada gets a lot of freebies from us, by the way.

00:10:13.000 They should be grateful also, but they're not.

00:10:15.000 I watched your prime minister yesterday.

00:10:18.000 He wasn't so grateful.

00:10:20.000 But they should be grateful to us.

00:10:22.000 Canada, Canada lives because of the United States.

00:10:25.000 Remember that, Mark, the next time you make your statements.

00:10:30.000 Well, the president also dumped out the favorite line of those of us on the right, which is that if it had not been for the United States' involvement in Europe, then everybody would be speaking German and Japanese.

00:10:40.000 I mean, it's slightly weird that he was saying this in Switzerland, where actually the predominant language is German, but the general point holds, obviously.

00:10:48.000 And then after the war, which we won, we won it big.

00:10:52.000 Without us, right now you'd all be speaking German and a little Japanese, perhaps. 0.69

00:11:00.000 After the war, we gave Greenland back to Denmark.

00:11:05.000 How stupid were we to do that?

00:11:08.000 Okay, so, I mean, that history is not right.

00:11:10.000 Denmark maintained control of Greenland even during the war.

00:11:13.000 They signed a defense agreement that allowed the United States to essentially build up a military presence on Greenland.

00:11:21.000 In any case, the president's main mission here, which was to tell the Europeans that they really need to up their game, that was a successful mission.

00:11:27.000 And it seems as though a lot of people have gotten the message, as we'll see in just a moment.

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00:13:47.000 And then there was all the hubbub about Greenland.

00:13:50.000 So, of course, the president had threatened European-wide tariffs on basically the entire continent over the failure of Denmark to turn over Greenland to the United States, over turning over sovereignty to the United States.

00:14:01.000 And of course, the United States had offered to pay Denmark for Greenland.

00:14:04.000 The United States had attempted to sort of bribe the citizens of Greenland with $100,000 apiece in order to get them to sign on the dotted line and join the United States.

00:14:12.000 None of that was working.

00:14:14.000 The president at Davos said that he would not use force in an American attempt to take Greenland.

00:14:20.000 We never asked for anything and we never got anything.

00:14:25.000 We probably won't get anything unless I decide to use excessive strength and force, where we would be, frankly, unstoppable.

00:14:34.000 But I won't do that.

00:14:38.000 Okay, now everyone's saying, oh, good.

00:14:41.000 That's probably the biggest statement I made because people thought I would use force.

00:14:45.000 I don't have to use force.

00:14:46.000 I don't want to use force.

00:14:47.000 I won't use force.

00:14:50.000 All the United States is asking for is a place called Greenland where we already had it as a trustee, but respectfully returned it back to Denmark not long ago after we defeated the Germans, the Japanese, the Italians, and others in World War II.

00:15:07.000 We gave it back to them.

00:15:10.000 We were a powerful force then, but we are a much more powerful force now after I rebuilt the military in my first term and continue to do so today.

00:15:19.000 Well, the president went on to make the case for why the United States required ownership of Greenland.

00:15:24.000 It wasn't enough just to have military bases there, which, again, under current military agreements, we absolutely have and can expand.

00:15:31.000 And all we're asking for is to get Greenland, including right, title, and ownership, because you need the ownership to defend it.

00:15:41.000 You can't defend it on a lease.

00:15:44.000 Number one, legally, it's not defensible that way, totally.

00:15:50.000 And number two, psychologically, who the hell wants to defend a license agreement or a lease, which is a large piece of ice in the middle of the ocean.

00:16:02.000 If there is a war, much of the action will take place on that piece of ice.

00:16:06.000 Think of it.

00:16:08.000 Okay, so the president went on to suggest that this is a small ask compared to what we have given Europe in the past.

00:16:15.000 It's a very small ask compared to what we have given them for many, many decades.

00:16:24.000 But the problem with NATO is that we'll be there for them 100%.

00:16:30.000 But I'm not sure that they'd be there for us if we gave them the call.

00:16:37.000 Gentlemen, we are being attacked.

00:16:39.000 We're under attack by such and such a nation.

00:16:43.000 I know them all very well.

00:16:44.000 I'm not sure that they'd be there.

00:16:46.000 I know we'd be there for them.

00:16:48.000 The president then concluded by suggesting that people could say yes or they could say no, but we would certainly prefer yes.

00:16:54.000 So we want a piece of ice for world protection and they won't give it.

00:17:00.000 We've never asked for anything else and we could have kept that piece of land and we didn't.

00:17:07.000 So they have a choice.

00:17:10.000 You can say yes and we will be very appreciative or you can say no and we will remember.

00:17:19.000 Okay, so what are the actual contours of a deal?

00:17:22.000 And the reason we're talking about a deal is because the president came out after his speech and he said that a deal had been reached, a framework for a deal had been reached.

00:17:30.000 He put out a statement saying, based upon a very productive meeting that I have had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rudy, we have formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and, in fact, the entire Arctic region.

00:17:41.000 The solution, if consummated, will be a great one for the United States of America and all NATO nations.

00:17:47.000 Based upon the understanding, I will not be imposing the tariffs that were scheduled to go into effect on February 1st.

00:17:52.000 Additional discussions are being had concerning the Golden Dome as it pertains to Greenland.

00:17:56.000 Further information will be made available as discussion progresses.

00:18:00.000 Vice President J.D. Van, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, and various others, as needed, will be responsible for the negotiations.

00:18:07.000 They will report directly to me.

00:18:09.000 So what exactly is the deal that belayed this tariff order from the President of the United States?

00:18:15.000 And again, I'm glad that we are not doing a tariff war with the Europeans over Greenland.

00:18:20.000 That seemed to me a policy that was, at the very best, smashing a fly with a nuclear bomb.

00:18:25.000 It was something that was driving the Europeans into the arms of the Chinese. 0.99

00:18:28.000 It was causing the Europeans to reorient away from the United States on behalf of what would be at best a marginal military interest for the United States.

00:18:36.000 So what exactly is the thing that we are getting?

00:18:39.000 Well, in order to understand what it is that we are getting, you first have to understand the deal that we currently have with Denmark.

00:18:44.000 There's a 1951 agreement relating to the defense of Greenland.

00:18:47.000 It replaced a temporary wartime agreement from 1941.

00:18:52.000 It was revised in 2004.

00:18:54.000 The original 1951 text established that the United States could establish, use, and operate specific defense areas.

00:19:01.000 In other words, we could build bases in Greenland.

00:19:04.000 And within those particular areas, the United States had the right to improve and generally to fit the area for military use.

00:19:09.000 That meant that we could construct what we wanted in those areas, store supplies, we could put personnel on the ground in those areas.

00:19:16.000 And that treaty was for an indefinite duration.

00:19:19.000 So as long as NATO was still active, then the treaty remained in obligation.

00:19:26.000 So today, presumably, there's an understanding under the 2004 bilateral agreement.

00:19:34.000 It moved from bilateral U.S. Denmark to a trilateral one because Greenland is now involved in the negotiations because they have a level of self-government.

00:19:41.000 Well, since 2004, the U.S. presence does require the continued consent of the people of Greenland, but the reality is that the people of Greenland have never objected to the United States having a military presence there.

00:19:52.000 They don't want the Russians washing ashore any more than the United States does. 0.78

00:19:58.000 And again, there's not a lot to be said about the expansion of U.S. military presence.

00:20:03.000 Presumably, if the United States had asked, then Greenland or Denmark would have said yes.

00:20:06.000 And if they'd said no, that would have been a good predicate for the United States to really put the pressure on.

00:20:11.000 But there was no such conflict initiating all of this.

00:20:14.000 So what exactly is the deal?

00:20:15.000 Well, according to the UK Telegraph reporting yesterday evening, Connor Stringer, the Washington correspondent, and Joe Barnes, the Brussels correspondent, the United States will control parts of Greenland by designating them as sovereign base areas under the terms of a proposed deal agreed in Davos.

00:20:30.000 Per the draft framework, which mimics Britain's agreement with Cyprus, American bases would be considered U.S. territory in the Arctic region, according to the UK Telegraph.

00:20:38.000 That framework agreed between Donald Trump and Mark Rudy, the NATO Secretary General, on Wednesday evening, will ease Danish fears.

00:20:43.000 The U.S. is preparing to annex the semi-autonomous region entirely.

00:20:47.000 The framework would allow the United States to perform military operations, intelligence, and training, while also facilitating some local development, including potentially mining for rare earth minerals without having to seek permission from Denmark.

00:20:57.000 So that seems to be the only part of the framework that is a major change from the 1951 agreement.

00:21:02.000 Now, you can make the case that granting sovereignty means we no longer have to worry about any sort of threat from Greenland's government or from the Danish government about what we do in those military areas.

00:21:11.000 Again, the reality is, practically speaking, that was not happening.

00:21:15.000 Now, theoretically, we could get crossways with them.

00:21:18.000 And so this is a better deal.

00:21:19.000 This is the United States obtaining sovereignty over small portions of Greenland.

00:21:23.000 It is not Greenland becoming the 51st estate or turning into Trumpland.

00:21:27.000 As far as the potential mining for rare earth minerals, which the president is very focused on given our dependence on Chinese rare earth minerals, unclear what extent that is going to materialize, what that actually means at this point.

00:21:41.000 According to one diplomatic source, the idea was to give Trump a deal.

00:21:45.000 It was seen as a creative workaround to President Trump's demands for ownership of the entire island.

00:21:52.000 So the president, again, does have his eyes on some rare earth minerals in Greenland.

00:21:57.000 80% of Greenland, by the way, is covered in ice.

00:22:00.000 And it means that the United States presumably would not have to seek permits like planning permission.

00:22:05.000 And it would make it somewhat easier for the United States to station Golden Dome there.

00:22:08.000 So on that level, it's a victory for the president.

00:22:11.000 Now, did we have to go about it this way?

00:22:13.000 Did we have to scare the bejesus out of the Europeans in order to get them to do all of this? 1.00

00:22:19.000 Or could we have simply gone to them and said, guys, we want to build some extra military bases in Greenland to fight off the predations of the Russians and Chinese. 0.83

00:22:28.000 And also, we would like to make a deal with you on rare earth minerals.

00:22:33.000 So it'll be interesting to see sort of what is found out over the coming days about how the negotiations actually went and what really does materialize here.

00:22:42.000 Certainly it doesn't mean the United States is about to take over all of Greenland.

00:22:45.000 It is, however, a more advantageous situation than we had before with regard to Greenland.

00:22:50.000 The question is, what is the knock-on effect?

00:22:52.000 Is this going to mean that Europe sees the United States as a robust ally that just wanted a little bit more for its money?

00:22:58.000 Or does it mean that Europe is going to completely reorient away from the United States, seeing in President Trump's tactics a sort of opening to move toward Russia, to move toward China?

00:23:08.000 Well, the president of the ECB, Christine Lagarde, suggested this is a major wake-up call, and Europe may start to trend away from the United States.

00:23:17.000 This is a wake-up call, a bigger one than we ever had.

00:23:21.000 And I think that Europe is going to look at its strength, look at its weaknesses, do a big SWOT analysis and decide what do we need to do to be strong by ourselves, to be more independent, to rely on the internal trade that we do with each other, so that we can just not ignore, but at least be prepared on other plan B, just in case the normal relationship is not restored.

00:23:46.000 Well, Mark Rudy, the head of NATO, taking a very different tack from Christine Lagarde, clinging to the alliance with the Americans, recognizing that it's not going to be quite so easy for the Europeans to simply shift away from the United States.

00:23:59.000 So you can be assured, absolutely, if ever the U.S. will be under attack, your allies will be with you.

00:24:05.000 Absolutely.

00:24:05.000 There's an absolute guarantee.

00:24:07.000 I really want to tell you this because it is important.

00:24:09.000 It pains me if you think it is not.

00:24:11.000 And under your leadership, this alliance is stronger than ever.

00:24:15.000 So again, I think that's the right approach by Mark Rudy.

00:24:18.000 But you can see why the Europeans are feeling a little bit peevish right now. 0.99

00:24:23.000 And we'll have to see how they react to everything that's going on.

00:24:26.000 Are we, again, entering a period of a multipolar world order, or is the president just flexing American muscles a little bit more than usual in an attempt to get everybody back on the same pro-America, pro-Western page?

00:24:37.000 That remains a bit of an open question.

00:24:39.000 Well, the other subplot to Davos is that Gavin Newsom showed up.

00:24:43.000 Obviously, I spoke with the California governor last week on his program.

00:24:47.000 Not sure what he was doing in Davos other than running for president.

00:24:50.000 There, he met up with, wait for it, Alex Soros.

00:24:54.000 So here is the thing.

00:24:56.000 If you're going to claim, as Gavin Newsom is, that he is not in favor of crony capitalism, that he is not in favor of broader government centralization, if he's going to try and hit the Republicans from the right in the 2028 election, hanging out with Alex Soros, who is, again, the sort of Fredo Corleone of left-wing politics, right?

00:25:14.000 He is the dumb son of a smarter father, George Soros, who is a nefarious figure in his own right for spreading far left-wing principles around the globe, including in the United States.

00:25:23.000 Alex Soros has been taking photos for a very long time with pretty much every major Democratic politician and then stuffing money in their pockets.

00:25:29.000 Well, apparently, Gavin Newsom stopped by the WF and met with Alex Soros, and Alex Soros put out a statement, quote, great catching up with the real star of the 2026 World Economic Forum, my friend Gavin Newsom.

00:25:40.000 So glad he's here calling out world leaders for believing appeasement works when it comes to Trump.

00:25:44.000 It only emboldens him to become more chaotic and destructive.

00:25:44.000 It doesn't.

00:25:47.000 World leaders could take a page out of Newsom's book.

00:25:49.000 It's time to stand tall, stand firm, and stand united before it's too late.

00:25:52.000 See, the part of this that's a little bit bizarre is what is the thing that they are standing tall against Trump in doing?

00:25:58.000 What is the thing?

00:26:00.000 If it comes to, okay, we don't want Trump to simply grab Greenland.

00:26:03.000 But if the idea is that broad spectrum, your goal is to stand up to the United States, I'm not in favor of foreign countries generally standing up to the United States as like a general broad rule.

00:26:03.000 I get it.

00:26:14.000 I think it's kind of bad.

00:26:15.000 I think American interests ought to be pursued by pretty much every American, including, of course, Governor Newsom.

00:26:22.000 And for that matter, Alex Soros.

00:26:25.000 Well, things got a little messy for Gavin Newsom right after Trump's speech.

00:26:29.000 He called the speech remarkably insignificant.

00:26:31.000 Here was Gavin Newsom.

00:26:34.000 What was your reaction to what he had to say about you?

00:26:37.000 None.

00:26:40.000 I think you said something very different last night.

00:26:43.000 I didn't hear new scum.

00:26:44.000 I heard new green scam.

00:26:47.000 But I mean, come on.

00:26:53.000 It was remarkably boring.

00:26:55.000 It was remarkably insignificant.

00:26:59.000 He was never going to invade Greenland.

00:27:01.000 It was never real.

00:27:03.000 So that was always a fake.

00:27:04.000 And so he says, well, we should negotiate.

00:27:06.000 Well, everybody here has been willing to negotiate for a year.

00:27:10.000 So it had Fire and Fury signified absolutely nothing.

00:27:14.000 Even by Trump's standards, I was rather curious.

00:27:17.000 And there was Borish parts of it, but those were not even that consequential, including name-checking, people he likes, people he didn't like.

00:27:26.000 So, you know, I just was not, honestly, it was just, I was a little disappointed.

00:27:30.000 It was a little non-plus.

00:27:31.000 Did it stand out to you that he said Iceland multiple times when he was talking about Greenland?

00:27:36.000 You know, and that every time a windmill turns, it costs $1,000.

00:27:42.000 And a lot of stuff stands out.

00:27:44.000 None of this is normalized.

00:27:45.000 There's a normalization, a deviancy of consciousness and, you know, comments and commentary.

00:27:51.000 I know other president, he's held to the curve.

00:27:53.000 He's great at auto-curve.

00:27:55.000 So, I mean, really?

00:27:58.000 So the most you could say is insignificant, except the Europeans aren't taking it as insignificant.

00:28:02.000 Newsom then went on to suggest the European leaders are very happy with him that he said that they shouldn't put on knee pads for the president.

00:28:08.000 I will say that Gavin Newsom is very fond of this sort of knee pads joke.

00:28:12.000 In fact, back in October of 2025, he launched a satirical merchandise campaign, selling signature knee pads on his Patriot Shop website.

00:28:20.000 He actually had a pair of those knee pads framed in the background of his podcast studio.

00:28:25.000 So this has been a long time running joke for Gavin Newsom.

00:28:25.000 You can spot them there.

00:28:28.000 He says the leaders were very happy.

00:28:29.000 He used the Newsom knee pads comments again, I guess.

00:28:34.000 I heard a surprising number say, glad you've made those comments.

00:28:39.000 The exact opposite of what you might expect.

00:28:43.000 They needed to hear those comments and to know that people in America have that point of view and perspective.

00:28:49.000 And so I was very...

00:28:51.000 Do you want to name names?

00:28:53.000 Absolutely, but I'm not.

00:28:55.000 But I would like to.

00:28:57.000 And I thought yesterday's comments by Prime Minister Kearney were effective, and Macron's comments, obviously the EU president's comments, were effective, and they helped shape, but the markets more so.

00:29:10.000 So, in his opinion, it was Mark Carney making suggestions about the United States that caused President Trump to back off of his sanctions threat against the EU, not a deal that was cut.

00:29:20.000 He does admit that the markets had some impact on this, which undoubtedly is true.

00:29:23.000 When the markets dive, the president doesn't like it very much.

00:29:25.000 But Gavin Newsom suggesting that he is fond of it when Mark Carney rips on the United States and simultaneously makes time with China is bizarre.

00:29:33.000 Him suggesting that Emmanuel Macron is some sort of world leader in terms of morality, while the French have been making time with the Iranians for years, is relatively insane. 0.99

00:29:43.000 And I think you can disagree with a lot of what President Trump has been doing with regard to Greenland.

00:29:47.000 I think the American people, broadly speaking, do.

00:29:49.000 I've disagreed with the president's policy prescriptions in some areas with regard to grabbing Greenland.

00:29:53.000 But that doesn't mean that I'm happy when Mark Carney suggests that the post-American order is going to be a positive place.

00:30:01.000 And it's strange for an American to believe that a post-American order is going to be a positive place or that European leaders ought to be ripping on the United States and moving away from the United States at speed.

00:30:12.000 It's one thing for Gavin Newsom to make the case that the president is alienating our allies needlessly.

00:30:16.000 It's another thing for him to say that those European allies are doing the right thing by ripping on the United States and moving toward China, which is what Mark Carney has been doing.

00:30:23.000 Well, the Treasury Secretary Scott Bessons then went after Gavin Newsom.

00:30:27.000 By the way, all this really just does elevate Gavin Newsome.

00:30:30.000 Gavin Newsom is playing a very smart political game here, just on a political, raw level.

00:30:30.000 Let's be clear.

00:30:34.000 What he is doing by going to Davos and earning the ire of the Trump administration and getting members of the Trump administration to attack him is elevating himself far above other Democratic candidates who don't get mentioned nearly as often by members of the Trump administration.

00:30:48.000 And again, the Trump administration is not in high order right now in terms of approval ratings.

00:30:52.000 This is smart politicking by Newsom, as much as I disagree with his principles on a lot of things.

00:30:57.000 The man is not stupid when it comes to playing the game.

00:30:59.000 Well, here was Scott Besson dunking on him.

00:31:02.000 Governor Newsom, who strikes me as Patrick Bateman, meets Sparkle Beach Ken, may be the only Californian who knows less about economics than Kamala Harris. 0.98

00:31:13.000 He's here this week with his billionaire sugar daddy, Alex Soros.

00:31:19.000 And Davos is a perfect place for a man who, when everyone else was on lockdown, when he was having people arrested for going to church, he was having $1,000 a night meals at the French laundry.

00:31:32.000 And I'm sure the California people won't forget that.

00:31:35.000 And again, that is a pretty robust dunk from Scott Besson.

00:31:39.000 But let's be clear, Scott Besant is also not going to be the nominee in 2028, presumably.

00:31:43.000 And so elevating Gavin Newsom as sort of the bet noir of the Trump administration, that's the game Newsom is playing.

00:31:49.000 And so far, just on a raw political level, that is succeeding.

00:31:52.000 Again, it's very clever what Newsom is doing.

00:31:54.000 I talked about this last week.

00:31:55.000 What Newsom is doing right now is he is posing as a political moderate while earning the ire of the Trump administration so that he appears to be in with his own base.

00:32:04.000 It is a very smart tactical move, even if I think, again, that Gavin Newsom seems to be willing to say pretty much anything to anybody, depending on who he is talking to at the time.

00:32:13.000 Well, all of this came to a head when Gavin Newsom was apparently informed at the 11th hour that his talk with Fortune at USA House in Davos was canceled.

00:32:22.000 According to Politico, he had been invited to speak on Wednesday at an event sponsored by USA House, which for the first time was recognized by the U.S. government as the country's official headquarters in Davos.

00:32:31.000 But apparently, an organizer told his office they'd opted not to include any U.S. officials in the talk focused on CEOs and other business leaders.

00:32:39.000 A Newsom administration official accused the USA House under the auspices of the U.S. government of bowing to political pressure from the State Department.

00:32:46.000 Now, the organizer denied that.

00:32:47.000 They said the governor is still welcome in the venue.

00:32:51.000 This is, again, Newsom pretending that he basically is a co-equal with Trump and they're punching at each other.

00:32:57.000 That is the game that Gavin Newsom is playing.

00:32:59.000 Again, on a broader international level, the president also had comments while he was in Davos about a wide variety of international situations.

00:33:08.000 One of those, of course, is Iran. 0.76

00:33:10.000 The latest statistics coming out of Iran from human rights groups suggest upward of 14,000 dead.

00:33:13.000 Again, those statistics are not a final tally.

00:33:15.000 We are not sure at this point how many protesters were simply shot in the streets by the Iranian government.

00:33:20.000 Iran is still in a full state of lockdown.

00:33:23.000 The internet is not operative in Iran.

00:33:25.000 They still have troops out on the streets every single day to prevent protesting in the streets.

00:33:30.000 Well, President Trump at Davos said that Iran had been hemmed in.

00:33:34.000 They were very close to having the nuclear weapon, and we hit them hard, and it was a total obliteration.

00:33:42.000 They may try again, but they're going to have to try from a different area because that area was obliterated.

00:33:47.000 Incredible thing we did.

00:33:50.000 And because we did that, we were able to make peace.

00:33:52.000 If we didn't do that, I would say, Jared and Steve, if we didn't do that, there was no chance of making peace because the countries I just named and other countries could have never signed off.

00:34:03.000 They were afraid.

00:34:04.000 They were afraid.

00:34:07.000 We had a bully.

00:34:08.000 The bully was Iran, the bully of the Middle East. 1.00

00:34:10.000 They used to call it for years they were the bully of the Middle East. 0.89

00:34:13.000 They're not the bully of the Middle East anymore.

00:34:17.000 Well, it's unclear what's going to happen from here on with regard to Iran.

00:34:21.000 The foreign minister of Iran was granted an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal to promote his lies, suggesting that they are going to basically shoot anybody who now participates in what they are calling a resistance.

00:34:34.000 According to the foreign minister, quote, the protests began peacefully and were recognized as legitimate by the Iranian government.

00:34:40.000 They suddenly turned violent when foreign and domestic terrorist actors entered the scene.

00:34:43.000 So blocking communication among organizers of the rioters and terrorists was an imperative.

00:34:47.000 So, again, the claim is going to be that it was, what, the CIA and Mossad that was responsible for all of this.

00:34:55.000 According to the foreign minister, the people on the ground were targeting police and civilians alike.

00:35:00.000 Officers were shot, burned, and even beheaded.

00:35:02.000 Public buses, hospitals, ambulances, fire stations, health infrastructure, chain stores, even mosques were deliberately destroyed to maximize casualties and impede emergency response.

00:35:10.000 The majority of those killed were police officers and ordinary civilians.

00:35:14.000 Contrary to the lies being peddled abroad, all unarmed victims have been officially recognized as martyrs.

00:35:18.000 This means every affected family will receive full support, including the same compensation and benefits as fallen police officers.

00:35:24.000 The violence on our streets has subsided and normal life has returned nationwide.

00:35:28.000 Well, that's weird since the internet is still shut down.

00:35:30.000 The Wall Street Journal editorial board put out a piece pointing out that actually none of this is true, that basically they printed this simply so that they could identify the lies being told by the Iranian regime.

00:35:42.000 The president may be considering military options still.

00:35:46.000 It would be very difficult, I think, for the president to not consider some sort of major move against Iran, considering he drew a red line, the mass murder of protesters.

00:35:54.000 Iran didn't just cross the red line, they jumped over it with both feet, shooting protesters by perhaps the tens of thousands in the streets in Iran. 0.51

00:36:02.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, President Trump is still pressing AIDS for what he terms decisive military options.

00:36:08.000 The discussions are happening while the U.S. sends an aircraft carrier and jet fighters to the Middle East.

00:36:12.000 Those deployments may be the start of a broader buildup that would give President Trump the firepower to strike Iran should he choose to use them.

00:36:20.000 So a revised suite of options are being created for the president, including some that would seek to push the regime out of power.

00:36:28.000 How much can be done with air power is really the big question.

00:36:32.000 The White House has to grapple with whether the administration is prepared to carry out a sustained military campaign that might last weeks or months should the protesters in Iran again take to the streets and appeal to President Trump for protection.

00:36:42.000 However, suffice it to say that if the president really does not take significant action against the Iranian government in the aftermath of telling the protesters to stay out in the street and, quote, help is on the way, that would not only be disastrous for the protesters in Iran, it would in fact be a signal to places like China that going after, say, Taiwan would not be reacted to by the United States with any sense of strength or alacrity.

00:37:06.000 I very much doubt the president is going to do nothing in Iran.

00:37:09.000 Iran, for its part, is trying to threaten the United States. 1.00

00:37:12.000 Here is the Iranian Armed Forces Spokesperson General Shakarchi promising retaliation against the United States or its assets in the region should the United States strike.

00:37:22.000 We do not pay attention to Trump's bluster.

00:37:25.000 He knows that if any hand is raised to assault our leader, we will not only cut off that hand decisively and courageously, and this is not just rhetoric, but we will set their world on fire.

00:37:37.000 We will strip them of any security and leave no safe place for them.

00:37:42.000 Now, again, Iran made those same sorts of threats to Israel during the 12-day war.

00:37:47.000 And suffice it to say, those threats did not really come true in large amount.

00:37:53.000 Because, again, if the Iranian government wishes to take on the United States military in true fashion, that will not go well for them.

00:38:01.000 According to the Wall Street Journal editorial board, there's a strong case, obviously, for regime change in Iran.

00:38:08.000 That case for regime change goes back decades.

00:38:11.000 We'll have to see whether that is effectuated.

00:38:13.000 At the same time, the president is expected today in Davos to hold a sign-lined signing of his board of peace agreement.

00:38:21.000 So the board of peace was supposed to be part and parcel of the re-governance of Gaza.

00:38:25.000 A board of peace run by the president of the United States that is expected to allow for the rebuilding of the Gaza Strip.

00:38:32.000 The list of people who have been invited is bizarre, to say the least.

00:38:35.000 It includes not only some of the most robustly pro-Hamas actors in the Middle East, like Qatar and Turkey.

00:38:42.000 Also, apparently, it includes Russian President Vladimir Putin to join the new board of peace, which seems kind of strange.

00:38:49.000 Vladimir Putin suggested that after the Ukraine war ends, perhaps that will happen.

00:38:54.000 So I guess he thinks that he's going to leverage the president into ending American support for Ukraine or forcing Ukraine into final concessions so that Putin will join a board of peace that's basically meaningless in the Gaza Strip.

00:39:06.000 Considering Russia's special relations with the Palestinian people, I think that we could contribute $1 billion to the Board OF Peace from the assets frozen by the previous administration, and the remaining funds from the funds frozen in the United States could be used to rebuild territories that suffered during hostility.

00:39:37.000 once we signed a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine.

00:39:37.000 And the remaining funds from the United States.

00:39:41.000 We're discussing this with the representatives of the U.S. administration.

00:39:47.000 Okay, well, what that amounts to, if you shorten that, is an attempt at bribery, presumably.

00:39:51.000 The idea would be that if the Ukraine war ends and the United States forces Ukraine to the table, that Russia will then get its unfrozen assets and they will take those assets and pour it into the Gaza Strip in some way.

00:40:02.000 Again, having the Russians involved in the Gaza Strip is just reconstituting Hamas. 0.74

00:40:06.000 That is all that will happen there.

00:40:07.000 Russia, Turkey, Qatar, again, these are countries that were very much willing to facilitate funding for Hamas and turn that area into a terrorist hotbed.

00:40:15.000 Again, President Trump, for his part, suggested the people being invited are people who will get the job done.

00:40:21.000 I beg to differ when you look at that list.

00:40:24.000 We want all nations.

00:40:25.000 We want all nations where people have control, people have power.

00:40:30.000 That way we're not never going to have a problem.

00:40:31.000 This is the greatest board ever assembled.

00:40:34.000 And everybody wants to be on it.

00:40:36.000 But yeah, I have some controversial people on it, but these are people that get the job done.

00:40:40.000 These are people that have tremendous influence.

00:40:42.000 And if I put all babies on the board, there wouldn't be very much.

00:40:47.000 So he was invited.

00:40:48.000 He's accepted.

00:40:50.000 Many people have accepted.

00:40:52.000 I think I don't know of anybody that hasn't accepted.

00:40:55.000 I mean, apparently, some of the people who have been invited and accepted, apparently, that would include not just Vladimir Putin, but also Lukashenko in Belarus.

00:41:05.000 I'm not sure how.

00:41:06.000 Those are some of the most effective people.

00:41:08.000 Other people invited, Brazil under Lula, which seems strange to me.

00:41:15.000 As well as the leadership in Pakistan in the Gaza Strip.

00:41:20.000 Okay.

00:41:21.000 Again, if you're going to posit an alternative to the UN, I'm all in.

00:41:24.000 I love that idea.

00:41:25.000 An alternative to the UN would be wonderful.

00:41:26.000 The UN is, again, the worst place in international politics.

00:41:29.000 But what you actually should pursue is a board of peace comprised of like-minded democracies that actually share Western values.

00:41:37.000 I have very little desire for a board of peace that includes some of the worst actors on planet Earth.

00:41:42.000 The president did have some hopeful words for the Gaza Strip.

00:41:45.000 He suggested that Hamas has agreed to give up its weapons, and he said that if they do not, then there will be consequences.

00:41:49.000 Hamas is still waiting for the consequences thus far.

00:41:53.000 There are some little situations like Hamas and Hamas has agreed to give up their weapons.

00:41:59.000 Now, you know, they were born with a weapon in their hand, so it's not easy to do.

00:42:03.000 When they were born, they were born with a rifle in their hand.

00:42:05.000 It's not an easy thing for them, but that's what they agreed to.

00:42:09.000 They've got to do it.

00:42:10.000 And we're going to know, Jared, over the next two or three days, certainly over the next three weeks, whether or not they're going to do it.

00:42:17.000 If they don't do it, they'll be blown away very quickly.

00:42:21.000 Okay.

00:42:21.000 Well, we'll see if that is the case, because the question is, who's going to be doing the blowing away?

00:42:26.000 Will the IDF actually be given the ability to go and do full-scale operations in the Gaza Strip again, if, in fact, Hamas does not disarm?

00:42:33.000 Because Hamas has no intention of disarming. 0.78

00:42:35.000 Many of the talks so far have included getting rid of things like rockets and rocket-propelled grenades, but not getting rid of small arms, which, of course, is the way that you control the population in the Gaza Strip because you can shoot people with AK-47.

00:42:46.000 Meanwhile, the president suggested while he was at Davos that both Vladimir Putin and Vladimir Zelensky are stupid if they don't get a deal done.

00:42:53.000 Again, I'm just waiting on this particular deal.

00:42:55.000 I'm just waiting for Vladimir Putin to show any flexibility whatsoever.

00:42:59.000 We have yet to see any flexibility, one iota, from Vladimir Putin.

00:43:03.000 So I believe they're at a point now.

00:43:05.000 I'm going to meet with President Zelensky later today.

00:43:08.000 I believe they're at a point now where they can come together and get a deal done.

00:43:14.000 And if they don't, they're stupid.

00:43:17.000 That goes for both of them.

00:43:19.000 And I know they're not stupid, but if they don't get this done, they are stupid.

00:43:24.000 So I don't want to insult anyone, but you got to get this deal done.

00:43:29.000 Too many people are dying.

00:43:30.000 It's not worth it.

00:43:32.000 I mean, again, it is not a matter of will when it comes to Ukraine.

00:43:35.000 It's a matter of what people are willing to sacrifice.

00:43:37.000 And so far, the answer from the Russians has been no. 0.81

00:43:39.000 And all this ties into, again, what is the broader American orientation toward the world?

00:43:44.000 Is it America first or is it America alone?

00:43:48.000 Is it a multipolar world order or is it an America-led world order where we are more muscular in pursuit of our own interests and we expect more from our allies in helping us out with those interests?

00:43:57.000 That remains the big question coming out of Davos.

00:43:59.000 It was the big question going in.

00:44:01.000 I'm not sure that the question has been fully answered at this point in time.

00:44:04.000 Meanwhile, the Trump administration continues to progress on the executive level, putting forward excellent executive orders, moving forward on the regulatory level.

00:44:13.000 Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, of course, is now the director of the National Institutes of Health and was previously tenured professor at the School of Medicine at Stanford University, among other superlatives.

00:44:23.000 Dr. Bhattacharya, thanks so much for joining the program.

00:44:26.000 Really appreciate it.

00:44:26.000 Thanks for having me on, Ben.

00:44:27.000 It's nice to see you again.

00:44:29.000 So let's talk about what the administration just did with regard to fetal tissue research.

00:44:36.000 Yeah, so human fetal tissue research is, I mean, obviously it's been quite a controversial topic for a long time.

00:44:43.000 The NIH had a big debate in the early 2000s over this.

00:44:49.000 The tissue itself is often derived from aborted fetal tissue.

00:44:55.000 So, you know, someone has an abortion and then some researcher goes and buys the tissue and then uses it for research projects.

00:45:05.000 During Trump won, the policy was that if, so there's two parts of the NIH, there's intramural, researchers that directly work for the NIH, and there's extramural, all the people that the NIH funds, all in the universities.

00:45:17.000 Trump won banned intramural use of aborted fetal tissue, human fetal tissue.

00:45:25.000 This time, we're going beyond that.

00:45:26.000 We're saying not just the intramural research, but all of the support for the NIH has had, especially during the Biden administration, for human fetal tissue research more broadly outside in universities, this derived from abortions is banned.

00:45:45.000 Sorry, Brad, just there's one, a couple of nuances really important here.

00:45:48.000 One is that if there's tissue from a miscarriage, not specifically from an abortion, that's okay.

00:45:55.000 The reason that's important, there are some research uses, like for instance, understanding how fetal lungs develop, that's useful to know, to have that.

00:46:02.000 So there's some, we've been tracking this very carefully, and the use of human fetal tissue in research has been declining pretty sharply.

00:46:09.000 Even after the Biden administration sort of reversed the ban, the amount of money that the NIH has spent on human fetal tissue during the Biden administration research has declined very sharply.

00:46:20.000 And so what's happened is there's all these like big advances where you can use alternate methods that you no longer need human fetal tissue.

00:46:28.000 A lot of the angst and fights over this that happened over in the early 2000s.

00:46:32.000 I think now that there's like better technology, it's really that the point is that there's no scientific harm to this.

00:46:41.000 We're still going to be able to do the science we need to make it for human health, for advancing health of babies and all that, while at the same time getting rid of this sort of like use of aborted human fetal tissue, which so many people, including me, find morally abhorrent.

00:47:00.000 So let's talk about the scientific value here.

00:47:03.000 So you say, obviously, and so does the administration, that the use of aborted fetal tissue is now largely unnecessary.

00:47:09.000 We have alternative methods for doing this.

00:47:11.000 Obviously, opponents of the policy are suggesting that something terrible is happening scientifically, that research that would have gone, that would have been happening is no longer going to be done, that there will be medical gains that we have to forego because of all of this.

00:47:25.000 What is the scientific case that that's false?

00:47:27.000 Well, first, I would ask them to look at the actual policy, right?

00:47:30.000 So someone who's had a miscarriage and then wants to do a meaningful thing with that, and they donate the tissue from the miscarriage to science, that's still allowed, right?

00:47:45.000 So the only ban is on you have an abortion specifically to terminate the baby, and then the tissue then gets sold.

00:47:56.000 That's what's being banned.

00:47:58.000 Not all fetal human fetal tissue.

00:48:01.000 The other thing I point out is, Ben, is that if you look at the actual data on the use of NIH funds for this, during the Biden administration, there was a sharp drop in spending on human fetal tissue research.

00:48:14.000 And the reason is very simple, is because of the advances in alternatives to the human fetal tissue.

00:48:20.000 For instance, induced polariprin stem cells, folks, for many uses, you can produce tissues that are comparable or better without having the sort of moral qualms.

00:48:32.000 And Ben, if I make another sort of public health case about this, and during the pandemic, there were vaccines, for instance, the Johnson-Johnson vaccine, not an mRNA vaccine, but another technology that was produced using human basically the embryonic stem cells.

00:48:54.000 I heard from so many people during the pandemic that, you know, Catholics and others who had qualms about using this technology because they didn't want to be gaining from what their moral system said was an illicit fruit of the poison tree, right?

00:49:12.000 And I completely sympathize with this.

00:49:14.000 In public health and in science, we should seek to produce knowledge and products that are as widely available for everybody.

00:49:24.000 If there are large numbers of people with moral systems that say, well, look, if you don't go down this line and use research, do research with aborted human fetal tissue, I'm not going to participate in it.

00:49:37.000 I'm not going to, if it's a vaccine or whatever it is, I'm not going to use it.

00:49:41.000 Well, what good was the research if a large part of the population feels ethically bound not to participate or use the products of that research?

00:49:49.000 Well, that's Dr. Jay Bhattacharya over at NIH.

00:49:52.000 Obviously, he is deeply involved in every aspect of Trump administration policy, ensuring that the best of science is brought to bear, despite the left-wing media trying to claim that science is somehow on the back burner in the administration.

00:50:04.000 Dr. Bhattacharya ensures that is not the case.

00:50:06.000 Dr. Bhattacharya, really appreciate the time.

00:50:07.000 Thank you, Ben.

00:50:08.000 Nice to talk with you as always.

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00:50:32.000 What was it like Merlin, to be alone with God?

00:50:41.000 Is that who you think?

00:50:42.000 I was alone with, Mardin. 0.98

00:50:48.000 I knew your father.

00:50:49.000 I am yet convinced that he was not of this world.

00:50:55.000 All men know of the great talies.

00:50:58.000 You are, my father.

00:50:59.000 Are the gods?

00:51:00.000 War for my soul princess garrison, savior of our people. 0.58

00:51:08.000 I know what the bull god offered you.

00:51:11.000 I was offered the same, and there is a new pirate work in the world.

00:51:16.000 I've seen it, a god who sacrifices what he loves for us.

00:51:21.000 We are each given only one life singer.

00:51:24.000 No, we're given another.

00:51:29.000 I learned of Yezu the Christ, and I have become his follower.

00:51:33.000 He's waiting on a moon and I think you can give him one, trust in Yezu. 0.97

00:51:38.000 He is the only hope for men like us.

00:51:40.000 Fate to Britain never rests in the hands of the great light.

00:51:44.000 Great light, great darkness.

00:51:46.000 Such things mattered to me then.

00:51:49.000 What matters to you now, mistress of lies you nephew, the sword of a high king, how many lives must be lost before you accept the power you are born to wield?

00:52:09.000 Still clinging to the promises of a god who has abandoned you.

00:52:12.000 I cannot take up that sword again.

00:52:15.000 You know what you must do.

00:52:19.000 Great light, forgive me.

The Ben Shapiro Show - January 22, 2026

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