The Ben Shapiro Show - Politics By The Grammy | Ep. 463

00:00:00.000 Hollywood gets political, Trump takes on Jay-Z, and we'll bring you the latest on immigration.

00:00:04.000 Plus, I have some talk about the Federalist Paper and many other thoughts on various items sundry.

00:00:09.000 Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:15.000 Oh, the Grammys, where all of Hollywood apparently wants Donald Trump re-elected.

00:00:19.000 Really, really, really badly.

00:00:20.000 Because they're just going to shove in their face how annoying and political they are in every conceivable way.

00:00:26.000 Don't worry, we'll get to every aspect of this bloviating horror show in just a second.

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00:01:41.000 The Grammys.

00:01:42.000 So, we're in that time of year, when we have an awards show every other week.

00:01:46.000 And no one's actually watching these awards shows.

00:01:48.000 So the ratings last night at the Grammys stunk, according to Deadline Hollywood.

00:01:52.000 Back in New York City, for the first time since George W. Bush's first term and drenched in the politics of the Donald Trump era, last night's Grammy Awards was rockin' with multiple wins for very non-political Bruno Mars and a very, very political Kendrick Lamar.

00:02:03.000 It was a three and a half hour long CBS show.

00:02:06.000 Okay, guys, if it's longer than it would take to read the Bible twice,

00:02:09.000 Your show is too long.

00:02:11.000 They also had an audiobook audition cameo by Hillary Clinton, as you will see in just a second.

00:02:16.000 But the ratings stunk.

00:02:17.000 No one wanted to watch this.

00:02:19.000 Why?

00:02:19.000 Because it turns out that watching a bunch of celebrities reward each other and pat each other on the back and ruffle each other's hair and talk about how brave they are and how wonderful they are

00:02:28.000 Is super duper irritating for everyone involved.

00:02:32.000 With a 12.721 in metered market ratings, the Recording Academy's Big Hootenanny was also way down from the early numbers for the February 13th, 2017 59th annual show.

00:02:40.000 So that's a 20% decline from last year to this year.

00:02:46.000 Because no one cares.

00:02:48.000 No one cares.

00:02:49.000 Here's the truth.

00:02:50.000 There are certain artists that a lot of people listen to, but they don't have the same sort of broad cultural appeal that they used to.

00:02:56.000 And I'm talking about even the biggest stars.

00:02:58.000 Like Kendrick Lamar.

00:03:00.000 I'm sure there are a lot of youngsters who like the Kendrick Lamar.

00:03:02.000 No one over the age of 35 listens to Kendrick Lamar.

00:03:05.000 Like, there's no cross-cultural appeal to a lot of these folks.

00:03:08.000 There's a giant age gap when it comes to the artists who are being awarded last night, rewarded last night.

00:03:13.000 People like Ke$ha singing.

00:03:15.000 Like, I've never listened to a full Ke$ha song because I would rather drive wooden spikes into my eyes.

00:03:20.000 Okay, there's no reason to listen to a Ke$ha song all the way through.

00:03:24.000 Okay, no one ever has done so.

00:03:26.000 Everyone who thinks they've done so is just at a rave and they got super high and then passed out.

00:03:30.000 No one has ever listened to one of these songs all the way through.

00:03:32.000 The only one of these artists who anyone could listen to for any substantial period of time is Bruno Mars, which is why he won awards, right?

00:03:38.000 The only reason that he won is because he's the only person anyone has ever listened to a complete song from.

00:03:44.000 So, they have these awards last night, and they decide that it is deeply imperative that we know what they think on politics.

00:03:50.000 Now, this is just about as irritating as when—there are a lot of people who are big fans of pop music, and they get very irritated when I deconstruct the culture.

00:03:57.000 Like, Mike.com did a full piece on how I didn't understand the lyrics to Cardi B's song that we analyzed last week.

00:04:03.000 Right.

00:04:04.000 I said so.

00:04:06.000 Correct.

00:04:08.000 They were confused that I was doing an analysis of Cardi B because I'm not a Cardi B expert.

00:04:13.000 Yes, this is true.

00:04:15.000 And herein lies the humor, right?

00:04:17.000 Herein lies the humor is that I don't know what the hell these people are talking about.

00:04:20.000 But the same holds true for all of the artists who think that they know what they're talking about when it comes to politics.

00:04:25.000 So that means that they are just going to revert back to their idol worship for guess who?

00:04:29.000 So Hillary Clinton is back and she is worse than ever. 1.00

00:04:32.000 She's obnoxious. 1.00

00:04:33.000 She disliked. 0.99

00:04:34.000 She is smug. 1.00

00:04:36.000 She's arrogant. 1.00

00:04:37.000 She's yuck. 1.00

00:04:38.000 So they have her on last night and what do they do?

00:04:41.000 They have her read for the audiobook of Fire and Fury.

00:04:44.000 So let's just be clear about Fire and Fury.

00:04:45.000 We've discussed this for weeks.

00:04:46.000 Fire and Fury is Donald Trump fanfic.

00:04:49.000 Okay, Donald, it is the twilight of leftist orgasmic dreams. 1.00

00:04:55.000 It's Donald Trump wandering around the West Wing like a crazy buffoon, eating chicken wings and making his own bed. 0.99

00:05:01.000 It's Donald Trump supposedly having an affair with Nikki Haley, which we'll get to in one second. 0.98

00:05:05.000 And Hillary Clinton is reading from this fictionalized book.

00:05:08.000 And then we're supposed to believe her when she says things like fake news?

00:05:11.000 We're supposed to believe these people are the real keepers of the truth?

00:05:14.000 When they trot out Hillary Clinton? 0.96

00:05:15.000 Who can't—the thing about Hillary Clinton, it must be tough for Hillary Clinton to a certain extent. 1.00

00:05:20.000 Because, you know, there's always—if you ever watch a vampire movie, you ever watch a horror movie?

00:05:24.000 There's always somebody who's wandering around who's 2,000 years old, and they're like, just let me die! 0.99

00:05:30.000 And no one will let them die.

00:05:31.000 That's Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:05:32.000 They just keep exhuming her and then sending her out to talk about politics and put her face in public again. 1.00

00:05:38.000 Maybe she runs again in 2020 just as a revenge play. 1.00

00:05:41.000 But if she does, Trump swamps her.

00:05:42.000 Because the fact is, she is a deeply unpopular politician. 1.00

00:05:44.000 She's more unpopular every single day, which is almost impossible.

00:05:48.000 But somehow she has achieved this magnificent feat

00:05:50.000 So last night at the Grammys, they trot her out again to read from Fire and Fury, this fanfic about Trump.

00:05:56.000 And this was supposed to be the big laugh.

00:05:57.000 Take one.

00:05:59.000 He had a longtime fear of being poisoned.

00:06:02.000 One reason why he liked to eat at McDonald's.

00:06:04.000 Nobody knew he was coming and the food was safely pre-made.

00:06:08.000 That's it.

00:06:09.000 We've got it.

00:06:09.000 That's the one.

00:06:10.000 You think so?

00:06:10.000 Hell yeah.

00:06:11.000 The Grammy's in the bag?

00:06:12.000 In the bag.

00:06:17.000 Because Hillary's reading, you get it, from a book that's anti-Trump.

00:06:20.000 I hope that Trump spends the entire State of the Union address tomorrow reading Juanita Broderick's autobiography.

00:06:25.000 The entire time.

00:06:27.000 Just alternate that with excerpts from Clinton Cash.

00:06:30.000 This is so irritating.

00:06:31.000 And having it shoved in your face.

00:06:32.000 And look at the cutesy of James Corden. 0.99

00:06:34.000 Look how cutesy this whole thing is.

00:06:35.000 It's so cutesy!

00:06:36.000 It's so cutesy because Hillary, she's just like your grandmother. 1.00

00:06:40.000 From a horror movie.

00:06:41.000 Who lives in the closet and has been dead for 20 years.

00:06:44.000 Like, they just keep bringing her out.

00:06:46.000 Let's point something out here, by the way.

00:06:47.000 They bring out Hillary Clinton to talk fire and fury because she's a feminist icon, right? 1.00

00:06:50.000 Hillary Clinton's such a feminist icon. 1.00

00:06:52.000 Over the weekend, this news broke, okay?

00:06:54.000 By Maggie Haberman and Amy Chozik.

00:06:56.000 Hillary Clinton chose to shield a top advisor accused of harassment in 2008.

00:07:01.000 Quote, a senior advisor to Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign, who was accused of repeatedly sexually harassing a young subordinate, was kept on the campaign at Mrs. Clinton's request, according to four people familiar with what took place.

00:07:12.000 Wait, you mean that a woman who is so brave, so stunning, who's broken every glass ceiling except the last one left, that that woman left a guy on her campaign who was sexually harassing to help?

00:07:24.000 She would never do anything like that.

00:07:25.000 She would never stay married to such a person.

00:07:27.000 She would never defend such a person and threaten his accuser.

00:07:30.000 She would never do something like that.

00:07:31.000 She is a feminist icon. 1.00

00:07:34.000 And then you wonder why we don't take the Democrats seriously?

00:07:37.000 You wonder why we don't take the Grammys seriously?

00:07:39.000 You wonder why we don't take their politics seriously, reading from this fire and fury nonsense?

00:07:43.000 Mrs. Clinton's campaign manager at the time recommended she fire the advisor, Burns Strider, which is a hell of a name. 0.62

00:07:48.000 Mrs. Clinton did not.

00:07:48.000 Instead, Mr. Strider was docked several weeks of pay in order to undergo counseling and the young woman was moved to a new job.

00:07:55.000 Just like a man to do this.

00:07:57.000 Just like a man. 0.98

00:07:58.000 Except she's a woman. 1.00

00:07:59.000 Mr. Strider, who is Mrs. Clinton's faith advisor!

00:08:01.000 Ah!

00:08:02.000 So great!

00:08:03.000 So her faith advisor was sexually harassing the help, she kept him on so he could advise her about faith.

00:08:09.000 Yes, I wonder why the American public did not take Hillary Clinton more seriously. 0.90

00:08:13.000 And I wonder why the Hillary Clinton feminist icon shtick just didn't work. 1.00

00:08:17.000 I just, I can't imagine why.

00:08:19.000 He sent the candidate scripture readings every morning for months during that campaign.

00:08:22.000 He was hired five years later to lead an independent group that supported Mrs. Clinton's 2016 candidacy, Correct the Record, which was created by David Brock.

00:08:30.000 Nothing says faith advisor, by the way, like working with David Brock, one of the scuzziest people in the history of mankind.

00:08:36.000 He was fired after several months for workplace issues, including allegations he harassed a young female aide, according to three people close to the Correct the Record management.

00:08:44.000 Hillary Clinton had no statement on this.

00:08:47.000 A spokesman for Mrs. Clinton provided a statement, said, Yeah, except for how the guy remained on the campaign and the woman was apparently banished off to anti-feminist land. 0.88

00:08:54.000 But don't worry, Hillary got straight from fire and fury at the Grammys because she'll never go away. 0.97

00:08:57.000 Now Nikki Haley,

00:09:13.000 We're good.

00:09:23.000 And that allegation was essentially that Nikki Haley was having an affair with Trump, which is completely unsubstantiated.

00:09:29.000 And Nikki Haley tweeted, And everybody on the left went nuts.

00:09:31.000 How dare Nikki Haley sound off about this?

00:09:32.000 So, let me just make something clear to all you folks on the left with regard to the Grammys.

00:09:46.000 If Nikki Haley sounds off about how a sexist book smears her as having an affair with her boss without any evidence, and then you attack her, you're not a feminist. 0.50

00:09:55.000 You're not a feminist. 1.00

00:09:55.000 You're a liar. 1.00

00:09:56.000 You're somebody who's playing politics. 1.00

00:09:58.000 But that's what the entire Grammys was.

00:10:00.000 And we'll have more of that in just a second.

00:10:02.000 More politics at the Grammys.

00:10:03.000 It really didn't stop.

00:10:04.000 And it's all—it's so insulting.

00:10:06.000 Again, this is exactly how Trump won.

00:10:09.000 It's people thinking Hollywood values actually have any sort of predominance in the rest of the country.

00:10:12.000 They do not.

00:10:13.000 We'll get to the rest of this in just a second.

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00:11:50.000 I'm back to the Grammys.

00:11:51.000 So it wasn't just Hillary Clinton at the Grammys. 0.99

00:11:54.000 There's also all of these artists who feel the need to sound off about Trump, as though I give a crap what Bono thinks about Trump. 0.96

00:12:00.000 I don't give—the number of craps that I give about Bono is— 0.98

00:12:06.000 Zero, just to be blunt.

00:12:08.000 Okay, so Bono, in the middle of his song, he's singing, I don't know what song he's singing.

00:12:12.000 Bono's so over the top, I can't deal with Bono.

00:12:14.000 So anyway, Bono is singing and he says, blessed are the bleephole countries in the middle of his song.

00:12:19.000 Oh, how clever he is.

00:12:20.000 I'm so bored.

00:12:35.000 The American dream! 0.96

00:12:36.000 Blessed are the arrogant! 0.99

00:12:41.000 Blessed are the bleephole countries because they gave us the American dream.

00:12:43.000 First of all, I'm so bored of you two.

00:12:45.000 I'm sorry.

00:12:46.000 I'm just, I'm so bored of them.

00:12:47.000 That sound, the reverberating guitar and the Bono singing in his strangely muted voice.

00:12:54.000 I'm so bored with it.

00:12:55.000 But beyond that, put aside the artistry of it, that doesn't even make any sense.

00:12:59.000 Blessed are the bleephole countries because they gave us America? 0.69

00:13:03.000 No, people left because they were terrible.

00:13:06.000 What you'd really want to say is, wouldn't you want those countries not to be bad?

00:13:10.000 That's like saying, blessed is the abusive Hoban that gave us Beethoven. 0.83

00:13:14.000 Couldn't you just be thankful for Beethoven and not the fact that his father used to wake him up in the middle of the night and smack him on the knuckles every time he made a mistake while he was practicing?

00:13:22.000 How about that?

00:13:23.000 That's such a nonsensical statement.

00:13:25.000 Blessed are the bleephole countries because they gave us Americans? 1.00

00:13:27.000 Listen, my ancestors came here from Russia.

00:13:30.000 That didn't make, like, not bless Russia, right? 0.62

00:13:32.000 The only blessing my ancestors were saying about Russia was the same blessing they say in Fiddler on the Roof.

00:13:36.000 God bless and keep the Tsar far, far away from us. 1.00

00:13:39.000 Nobody is interested in being in, like, the reason people are leaving is because these countries aren't great.

00:13:44.000 We have a nanny. 1.00

00:13:45.000 The nanny is from El Salvador.

00:13:47.000 El Salvador is having serious problems right now.

00:13:49.000 I'm super grateful for our nanny.

00:13:51.000 She's a wonderful, wonderful person.

00:13:52.000 I love her.

00:13:52.000 She's terrific.

00:13:54.000 My wife and I, we are so grateful for her.

00:13:56.000 We're not grateful that El Salvador is having problems right now.

00:14:00.000 We're not grateful that Honduras is having problems right now.

00:14:02.000 We're not grateful that these bleephole countries supposedly are having troubles.

00:14:07.000 What?

00:14:08.000 But this is the whole thing, right?

00:14:09.000 It's slapping Trump.

00:14:10.000 And look how diverse he is.

00:14:12.000 He's so diverse.

00:14:13.000 Oh, you too.

00:14:13.000 And he's so meaningful.

00:14:14.000 Look at Bono.

00:14:15.000 Every time, looking up to the sky.

00:14:19.000 As a musician for many, many years, my favorite violinist, as is every violinist's favorite violinist, is Jascha Heifetz.

00:14:25.000 One of the things I love about Jascha Heifetz is that there is no histrionics.

00:14:29.000 Jascha Heifetz, when he plays the violin, go look at a tape of him.

00:14:31.000 He is just stone-faced.

00:14:32.000 He just plays, and it's great.

00:14:34.000 One of the things I hate the most about modern music is that modern music is all based on energy and histrionics.

00:14:39.000 It's all based on you making faces while you sing and looking up to the sky like Bono.

00:14:43.000 Look at him looking up to the sky with his red, white, and blue loudspeaker.

00:14:49.000 By the way, Bono's not American, is he?

00:14:51.000 Does he have American citizenship?

00:14:52.000 I don't know.

00:14:53.000 I don't think so.

00:14:53.000 In any case,

00:14:55.000 It's all irritating.

00:14:56.000 And then it wasn't just that.

00:14:57.000 Trevor Noah, of course, shows up, a man in a running gun battle with Samantha Bee for Least Funny Human Being.

00:15:02.000 He shows up at the Grammys to talk about Trump.

00:15:03.000 As I mentioned, Trevor Noah had invited me on his show.

00:15:06.000 I said, I will do it if it's live.

00:15:07.000 I will not do it if it's taped, because I'm not going to allow you to cut me up, because that's what they do.

00:15:11.000 They did it to Jonah Goldberg.

00:15:12.000 Not going to do it with them.

00:15:13.000 So here's Trevor Noah.

00:15:15.000 Showing up to slam Trump.

00:15:16.000 And here's the thing.

00:15:17.000 It's not like they make these jokes about everyone.

00:15:20.000 There's not a Hillary Clinton joke to be seen last night.

00:15:22.000 Hillary Clinton was making, was there to make fun of Trump. 0.95

00:15:24.000 Here is Trevor Noah showing up to slam Trump.

00:15:27.000 That was amazing.

00:15:28.000 Wow.

00:15:30.000 I love that song, man.

00:15:31.000 Like, I love that song.

00:15:33.000 It takes me back, you know, like way back to when Trump wasn't president.

00:15:38.000 He's so funny.

00:15:39.000 It takes him back to when Trump wasn't president.

00:15:42.000 Is that a punchline?

00:15:44.000 It is amazing to me that some of these people have careers.

00:15:46.000 Trevor Noah is certainly among them. 0.95

00:15:48.000 So it turns out that when you alienate half the country, and when you shout about how stupid they are, and when the entire evening is just about how much you hate the President of the United States, no one wants to watch, which is why the ratings are down. 0.98

00:15:58.000 Also, no one listens to this music. 0.99

00:15:59.000 So it wasn't just that.

00:16:00.000 It was also feminism at the Grammys. 1.00

00:16:02.000 Everyone at the Grammys now has to posture about how they are for women. 0.98

00:16:05.000 They're all for women. 1.00

00:16:06.000 By the way, how many women won last night? 1.00

00:16:08.000 Any guesses?

00:16:09.000 One.

00:16:10.000 Okay, so one woman won last night, which is sort of humiliating to all of the Grammy, we love women routine. 0.60

00:16:17.000 But just like at the Golden Globes and at the Emmys, they're gonna do this, we stand for women, time's up, me too.

00:16:25.000 Okay, epicenter of sexual abuse of women is in the musical world. 1.00

00:16:30.000 The epicenter.

00:16:31.000 OK, or the center, if you don't want to make earthquake analogies.

00:16:34.000 The center of abuse of women in the entertainment world is the music industry. 1.00

00:16:39.000 Half the people who were up for Grammys last night have been credibly accused of harassing women.

00:16:45.000 Just the rap community alone.

00:16:47.000 The people who are in the rap community, how many of them have been indicted?

00:16:51.000 How many of them have been arrested for abusing women?

00:16:53.000 The list is just enormous.

00:16:54.000 It goes on and on and on.

00:16:56.000 And yet here they were all talking about how time's up.

00:16:59.000 We're all standing up.

00:17:00.000 We're all standing up to men who abuse women.

00:17:02.000 Really?

00:17:03.000 Then call out some of the men in the audience.

00:17:04.000 How about that?

00:17:06.000 They all know who these guys are.

00:17:09.000 The idea that everybody in the audience is all for women, the number of men who have abused women in that audience, it makes the Oscars blush.

00:17:17.000 It makes the Oscars blush.

00:17:18.000 Here's Janelle Monáe talking about Time's Up, and every headline last night was, powerful message about the Me Too movement, powerful message about Time's Up, powerful, powerful message.

00:17:27.000 Listen.

00:17:28.000 I'm in favor of the MeToo movement, so long as the MeToo movement is about not abusing women.

00:17:34.000 I was about not abusing women long before any of these other people were about not abusing women, presumably, because I've been talking about it my entire career.

00:17:41.000 But not a single name was named last night.

00:17:43.000 Not a single person was called out last night.

00:17:46.000 It's all just a double game.

00:17:48.000 Here's Janelle Monáe talking about Time's Up.

00:17:50.000 We are also daughters, wives, mothers, sisters, and human beings.

00:17:56.000 We come in peace, but we mean business.

00:18:05.000 And to those who would dare try and silence us, we offer you two words.

00:18:11.000 Time's up.

00:18:13.000 Who's trying to silence these people?

00:18:14.000 I mean, this whole notion that there's a bunch of people out there trying to silence you.

00:18:17.000 Talk as much as you want.

00:18:18.000 It's great.

00:18:18.000 You know, you want to talk about how you want to call the abusers out?

00:18:21.000 Let's call the abusers out.

00:18:22.000 You know what else?

00:18:23.000 Let's talk about degradation of women. 1.00

00:18:25.000 How about that?

00:18:25.000 Let's talk about men who degrade women.

00:18:27.000 And women who degrade women, by the way. 1.00

00:18:28.000 Women can also degrade women, it turns out. 1.00

00:18:30.000 Let's talk about the fact that Me Too and Time's Up were supposedly not just about abusive women.

00:18:34.000 They were also about female dignity, right?

00:18:36.000 They're supposed to be about men not treating women like sexual objects, and women treating themselves as free creatures capable of making rational decisions, right?

00:18:44.000 It's all about people's autonomy, and it's all about people treating themselves with the dignity necessary in order to lead a good life, and men treating women with the dignity that they deserve.

00:18:53.000 All right, that's what Time's Up and Me Too are supposed to be about.

00:18:55.000 So Keisha, whose stage name is spelled with a dollar sign, which I don't really understand.

00:19:02.000 It was their typo on her birth certificate.

00:19:03.000 In any case, Keisha sang at the Grammys with a bunch of other women. 1.00

00:19:06.000 And again, this one got a lot of play because it's all about respect, don't you see?

00:19:11.000 It's all about dignity because nothing says dignity quite like the top of this woman next to her.

00:19:14.000 I don't know who that is.

00:19:15.000 But it's all about respect and dignity.

00:19:18.000 Again, if we're just talking, here's the thing.

00:19:19.000 If the Me Too movement were just about don't abuse women,

00:19:22.000 Then wear whatever you want, okay?

00:19:23.000 But if it's about female dignity, if it's about the idea that women are supposed to be more than sex objects, here's an idea. 0.94

00:19:30.000 Don't act like a sex object.

00:19:32.000 Mildly controversial, I know. 0.90

00:19:34.000 Mildly controversial. 0.99

00:19:35.000 But if you are expecting men to look at you as more than a sex object, perhaps you should not walk around dressed like a sex object.

00:19:43.000 I'm not saying men should look at you like a sex object no matter what you wear, but 0.60

00:19:48.000 Life is filled with realities that you may not enjoy.

00:19:50.000 Anyway, here was Keisha's Grammy performance.

00:19:57.000 Kesha, who cares? 0.96

00:20:05.000 Okay.

00:20:08.000 I hope you find your peace.

00:20:11.000 Falling on your knees.

00:20:16.000 Oh, so moving, so moving, so moving.

00:20:18.000 I've been informed that this person's name is Kesha, not Keisha.

00:20:23.000 I do not care, in the slightest.

00:20:25.000 And when I talk about histrionics, this is the histrionics.

00:20:27.000 Again, I would take all of this about women's dignity a little bit more seriously if Kesha didn't make songs like this one. 1.00

00:20:52.000 Nothing says female dignity quite like that lyric right there.

00:20:55.000 I mean, really.

00:20:56.000 There's a place downtown where the freaks all come around. 0.86

00:20:58.000 It's a hole in the wall. 0.99

00:20:59.000 It's a dirty free-for-all.

00:21:00.000 And then they turn me on when they take it off.

00:21:02.000 When they take it off, everybody take it off.

00:21:04.000 There's a place I know if you're looking for a show where they go hardcore and there's glitter on the floor.

00:21:08.000 Yeah, I can't imagine. 0.83

00:21:11.000 And people look at Kesha like a sex object? 1.00

00:21:14.000 Hell, I just, no, no, no, no, that's unbelievable! 0.99

00:21:17.000 No!

00:21:18.000 Okay, again, should you treat women with respect?

00:21:21.000 Of course, of course.

00:21:23.000 Should women, do women deserve dignity? 1.00

00:21:26.000 Yes, but there is such a thing as degrading yourself.

00:21:29.000 And when you degrade yourself, and when you degrade women by extension, it's not good.

00:21:32.000 If a man made a video that looked like this, and Kesha were not a famous person, you'd be talking about how the man who directed this video degraded women. 1.00

00:21:39.000 That's what you'd be talking about last night.

00:21:41.000 Last night on the Grammys, Rihanna did a performance, and it was—what's the name of the guy?

00:21:44.000 It's the guy that you like, Jess.

00:21:46.000 What's the name of that dude?

00:21:47.000 The one who shouts—oh, DJ Khaled.

00:21:51.000 Okay, DJ Khaled.

00:21:52.000 So DJ Khaled is there, and he walks out and he starts rapping, and then Rihanna appears from backstage and starts pelvic thrusting for like five minutes.

00:22:00.000 Okay, if you don't believe that that's a male fantasy, then you're out of your mind.

00:22:04.000 Of course it's a male fantasy. 0.96

00:22:05.000 Some guy, is there some fat, ugly guy, is there, talking about, oh, women, rapping about women, and then out comes a beautiful woman and starts pelvic thrusting? 0.99

00:22:13.000 Yes, don't talk to me about female dignity. 1.00

00:22:15.000 When you are out there trying to, there are so many dignified women, okay? 1.00

00:22:20.000 There are so many women who are striving for dignity. 1.00

00:22:22.000 If you think this is what female dignity looks like, you don't know a woman, and you have no respect for women.

00:22:26.000 And yes, I'm talking about women who think this is what female dignity looks like. 0.99

00:22:29.000 Because if Me Too is about anything, it's supposed to be about more than we don't deserve to be raped, we don't deserve to be sexually assaulted or harassed.

00:22:35.000 It's also about we deserve to be treated as dignity, as fully fleshed human beings, as full human beings.

00:22:42.000 Not just as objects of sex, bearing our all for the pleasure of men.

00:22:46.000 Because let's face it, who do you think is watching Kesha videos? 1.00

00:22:49.000 Do you think that it's all a bunch of women?

00:22:50.000 Empowered women watching Kesha videos? 0.99

00:22:52.000 Or do you think that when she's singing about it being a dirty free-for-all, it's a bunch of guys in their basements jacking off? 0.99

00:22:56.000 Which do you think? 0.97

00:22:57.000 It's just absurd.

00:23:00.000 Okay, so we'll get to more on feminism in just a second. 1.00

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00:24:25.000 Speaking of feminism at the Grammys, the Grammy-winning new artist, what's her name? 0.82

00:24:32.000 I guess Alyssa Cara?

00:24:34.000 Alessia Cara?

00:24:35.000 I don't know who any of these people are, because they're irrelevant to my life, except when they show up and bother me.

00:24:39.000 So she was speaking out about feminism. 1.00

00:24:41.000 Nothing I want to hear more about than the state of the world from a 20-year-old political know-nothing.

00:24:47.000 It's always fascinating to me.

00:24:49.000 But I don't think she means anything wrong by this.

00:24:51.000 So she was asked about feminists, and she says she's a feminist.

00:24:54.000 She says, just because Trump is president now, I don't think it's hard for you to stop talking about it.

00:24:58.000 We need to fight for more rights because of this.

00:25:00.000 I don't want anyone to feel defeated.

00:25:01.000 First of all, I don't know which rights women are fighting for that they don't already have. 1.00

00:25:04.000 Women literally have every right that men have, and a couple of additionals, like you're able to go to a doctor and have your baby killed in six months. 1.00

00:25:12.000 That's exciting.

00:25:13.000 She says, the definition of feminism is equality for all genders. 0.69

00:25:16.000 It's not saying women are superior. 0.96

00:25:17.000 It's not anti-men.

00:25:18.000 It's equality for women. 1.00

00:25:20.000 That word has become tainted for many reasons, and I just don't understand it.

00:25:23.000 Let me explain.

00:25:24.000 Hey, the reason the word feminism has become tainted is because there have been three waves of feminism. 1.00

00:25:29.000 Wave number one was good.

00:25:30.000 Wave number one said women should vote. 1.00

00:25:32.000 Women should be treated equally in the workplace. 1.00

00:25:34.000 Women should be paid the same for the same work. 1.00

00:25:36.000 Women should not be forced into societal boxes. 1.00

00:25:39.000 Agree.

00:25:39.000 Fantastic.

00:25:40.000 Then there was second wave feminism. 1.00

00:25:41.000 Second wave feminism said marriage is bad, marriage is stupid, and if you're engaged in marriage, sort of Betty Friedan feminism, then you're engaged in a kitchen holocaust, is some of the language that was actually being used at the time. 1.00

00:25:51.000 Then there was third wave feminism that said that women and men are essentially the same, right? 0.99

00:25:55.000 There's no difference between women and men. 1.00

00:25:57.000 Okay, so if you just said, are men and women to be treated equally?

00:26:01.000 Of course, I agree.

00:26:02.000 But the problem is the word feminism has been hijacked and now it's meant to use 1.00

00:26:06.000 Do you identify as a feminist? 0.99

00:26:07.000 Are you a feminist? 1.00

00:26:33.000 No, I wouldn't say I'm a feminist. 0.99

00:26:34.000 I mean, I think that would be maybe going too far.

00:26:37.000 I'm for women, I'm for men, I'm for everyone.

00:26:40.000 I think people have to go out, they have to go out and really do it, and they have to win.

00:26:45.000 And women are doing great, and I'm happy about that. 0.99

00:26:48.000 Okay, so here's the problem with what Trump is saying.

00:26:51.000 So Trump is saying right.

00:26:52.000 He's just not clever enough.

00:26:53.000 So what he should have said is, if by feminist you mean should men and women be treated equally, the answer is of course I'm a feminist.

00:26:58.000 If by feminism you mean am I anti-marriage?

00:27:01.000 Am I in favor of abortion?

00:27:03.000 Am I in favor of the idea that women are somehow victimized in the United States?

00:27:07.000 No, then I'm not a feminist, if that's your terminology. 1.00

00:27:09.000 Like, he should distinguish the term.

00:27:11.000 This is something the left likes to do.

00:27:12.000 They will take a popular term, and then they will infuse it with a meaning that has nothing to do with that original meaning.

00:27:18.000 So they do this with civil rights, right?

00:27:21.000 They'll say, are you for civil rights?

00:27:23.000 You say, yes, I'm for civil rights.

00:27:24.000 I believe that everyone should have the same rights.

00:27:26.000 And they'll say, well, are you for the idea that a man is a man and a woman is a woman?

00:27:30.000 You'll say, yeah.

00:27:31.000 They'll say, well, then you're not for civil rights.

00:27:32.000 Whoa, how'd you get from point A to point B now?

00:27:35.000 Why is civil rights about me pretending a man is a woman and a woman's a man? 0.84

00:27:39.000 How did that turn into a civil right?

00:27:41.000 So they take these generic terms that originally have a meaning that's non-generic, and then they fill them with another meaning, and then they're shocked when you say, I'm not a feminist.

00:27:49.000 So by the original definition, am I a feminist? 0.78

00:27:51.000 Yes, I'm a feminist. 1.00

00:27:52.000 Not only am I a feminist, when I was growing up, my dad was in the house.

00:27:54.000 My dad was a house husband, basically.

00:27:56.000 My dad stayed home and took care of the kids, and my mom was working.

00:28:00.000 Okay, and in my house, I spend an enormous amount of time with my kids because, have you heard this?

00:28:04.000 It's a rumor, my wife's a doctor, so she spends a lot of time out of the house.

00:28:07.000 Okay, so that means that I'm home a lot with my kids.

00:28:10.000 And that's great.

00:28:10.000 I want my wife to feel fulfilled in her career.

00:28:12.000 It's important to me.

00:28:14.000 So by any definition, any standard definition, I'm a feminist. 0.76

00:28:17.000 But am I in favor of pretending that Caitlyn Jenner is a woman?

00:28:20.000 Am I in favor of being anti-feminist enough to believe that a man can be a woman? 0.99

00:28:24.000 Am I in favor of the idea that a woman is a woman and therefore can kill babies? 1.00

00:28:27.000 No, I'm not in favor of any of those things. 0.54

00:28:28.000 So I guess that makes me not a feminist.

00:28:30.000 So when Trump says he's not a feminist, does it mean he's anti-woman?

00:28:33.000 No, I think that's the distinction Trump's trying to draw.

00:28:34.000 He just does it badly here.

00:28:36.000 Now, that wasn't the only kind of landmine Trump stepped on over the weekend.

00:28:40.000 So over the weekend, he got in a fight with Jay-Z, which is just what America needs, I think, is this fight between Jay-Z and the President of the United States.

00:28:47.000 Jay-Z, who is, by virtually all accounts, it's amazing to me that Jay-Z is being held up as some sort of halcyon of decency.

00:28:54.000 Okay, Jay-Z,

00:28:56.000 Not only started off as a drug dealer, but Jay-Z, in the very recent past, was in serious trouble because he was cheating on Beyonce, right?

00:29:02.000 Wasn't that the story?

00:29:04.000 That was the allegation, anyway, was that he was cheating on Beyonce.

00:29:06.000 I think it was more than an allegation, considering that Solange was basically beating the crap out of him in elevator, if I remember this correctly.

00:29:14.000 He got his career started by dealing drugs, and then I believe he was nearly convicted for stabbing a guy?

00:29:21.000 Was that the idea?

00:29:22.000 I don't want to get the legal allegation wrong.

00:29:25.000 But he was involved.

00:29:27.000 In October 2001, he pled guilty to stabbing Lance Rivera at the Kit Kat Club in New York City in 1999.

00:29:32.000 He was sentenced to three years probation.

00:29:35.000 So he's a real class act, is this Jay-Z fellow.

00:29:38.000 So Jay-Z is being held up as some sort of racial healer on Van Jones' show.

00:29:43.000 I like Van a lot, but Van's politics are utterly insane.

00:29:46.000 And so here's Van Jones asking Jay-Z about how the world should go.

00:29:49.000 He is somebody who's now saying, look, I'm growing, I'm dropping black unemployment.

00:29:54.000 Black people are doing well under my administration.

00:30:00.000 Does he have a point that maybe the Democrats have been giving us good lip service but no jobs?

00:30:05.000 Maybe he's going to say terrible things but put money in our pocket.

00:30:07.000 Does that make him a good leader?

00:30:09.000 No.

00:30:10.000 Because it's not about money at the end of the day.

00:30:12.000 Money doesn't equate to happiness.

00:30:14.000 It doesn't.

00:30:15.000 That's not missing the whole point.

00:30:18.000 Okay, so he's saying that Trump's language is divisive.

00:30:20.000 I actually agree that a lot of Trump's language is divisive.

00:30:23.000 I've said so on the show.

00:30:24.000 I ripped him after the Charlottesville protests, for example.

00:30:28.000 I ripped him after the bleephole comments. 0.98

00:30:31.000 I suggested that while some of that was somewhat defensible, it's really stupid, and if the Haiti comments were right, then that was actually a serious problem. 0.97

00:30:39.000 I've been on the same page as Jay-Z, actually, on some of this stuff. 0.92

00:30:43.000 Using Jay-Z as sort of the model for behavior.

00:30:46.000 Like, who you are matters when you say this kind of stuff.

00:30:48.000 So Trump, of course, fires back, and here's what he has to say about Jay-Z.

00:30:51.000 He tweets this out.

00:30:52.000 So to be fair to Jay-Z, that was actually in the question from Van Jones, right?

00:30:55.000 Van Jones says, Trump says that the black unemployment rate's really low.

00:30:58.000 What do you say?

00:31:06.000 But Trump is right that black Americans are faring well economically under the Trump administration. 0.96

00:31:11.000 It does go to the idea, by the way, that not everything that is economic is the extent of the presidential impact, right?

00:31:20.000 I mean, what we say actually matters.

00:31:21.000 It's one of the reasons I thought that Barack Obama was extraordinarily divisive.

00:31:25.000 But Van Jones responds by saying America would be better off if Trump were more like Jay-Z.

00:31:29.000 You know, hip-hop is usually all accusation and boasting.

00:31:33.000 He comes on confessional, but the politicians are all accusational and boasting Donald Trump and no confession from Donald Trump.

00:31:41.000 So if you want to listen to what Jay-Z says, follow Jay-Z's model, Mr. President.

00:31:46.000 He's a strong guy, he's a rich guy, but he's willing to be confessional, he's willing to grow in public.

00:31:51.000 If you do the same thing, America would be a lot better off.

00:31:53.000 Yeah, so Jay-Z is willing to grow in public.

00:31:55.000 Now, I'm just going to show you a picture real quick of a necklace that Jay-Z is famously wore to a Nets game.

00:32:02.000 Okay, that is the 5% necklace.

00:32:03.000 That is an offshoot of the Nation of Islam. 0.99

00:32:05.000 And they say, does the 5%, that white people are weak and wicked and that black men hold the power of God. 0.97

00:32:11.000 So there are a bunch of people who came forward and said, well, he didn't really mean all of that, right? 0.98

00:32:15.000 He didn't really mean all of that stuff.

00:32:16.000 What he really meant was just that, you know, black men should be powerful.

00:32:20.000 OK, then don't wear a symbol that is associated with the nation of Islam.

00:32:23.000 I failed to understand.

00:32:25.000 Can't we have, like, two public figures that are not particularly great?

00:32:28.000 You know, Trump versus Jay-Z is the fight that America doesn't need but definitely deserves, I think.

00:32:32.000 You know, as we continue, we're going to talk about Trump on immigration, release the memo.

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00:34:13.000 Okay, meanwhile, Trump on immigration.

00:34:15.000 So, one of the things that is allowing Trump to continue to maintain, to continue to get his agenda done,

00:34:22.000 It's the fact that the left have completely lost their mind on every issue.

00:34:26.000 So, it's not enough for them to critique President Trump in the normal ways.

00:34:29.000 They have to go full-on Hollywood hysterical. 0.82

00:34:32.000 They have to do all of the nonsense that Hollywood does. 0.85

00:34:34.000 Everything has to be turned up to 11.

00:34:36.000 So, last week, President Trump releases his new immigration proposal.

00:34:39.000 His new immigration proposal legalizes status for 1.8 million illegal immigrants.

00:34:45.000 And the number of illegal immigrants covered by President Obama's DACA, his Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals amnesty, was 700,000.

00:34:52.000 So Trump nearly tripled it.

00:34:53.000 Trump nearly tripled it.

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00:35:36.000 Is tomorrow the 30th?

00:35:37.000 Yes, it is.

00:35:38.000 Tomorrow is the 30th.

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00:35:43.000 I hate the State of the Union.

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00:35:48.000 Watch my hate. 0.76

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00:35:57.000 And they will be smoking cigars, and I will be choking to death.

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00:36:09.000 And then we'll be waiting for Hillary to read from Fire and Fury. 0.98

00:36:12.000 We'll also watch the hilarious rebuttal from Democrats.

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00:37:26.000 All righty, so back to immigration.

00:37:27.000 So President Trump's immigration plan is much more generous, much more generous than even Barack Obama's was.

00:37:33.000 All he wanted in return was an end to chain migration after like 17 years, meaning another 4 million illegal immigrants, or 4 million not illegal, 4 million legal immigrants get into the country.

00:37:42.000 He also wanted an end to the diversity visa lottery, which is a terrible program.

00:37:47.000 Those were his big changes, right?

00:37:48.000 And he wanted $25 billion of funding for his magnificent border wall, which apparently will be about 800 miles long.

00:37:54.000 And that's all he wanted out of life.

00:37:56.000 That's really all.

00:37:57.000 And the Democrats thought this was the worst thing ever.

00:37:59.000 So Nancy Pelosi, she of the Botox brain cells, she came forward and she said, Trump's immigration plan isn't just wrong.

00:38:07.000 It's not just terrible.

00:38:09.000 It's racist. 0.95

00:38:10.000 Racist. 1.00

00:38:10.000 Racist! 1.00

00:38:12.000 I'm on the subject of Dreamers. 0.95

00:38:13.000 Since last night, the president put forth a plan

00:38:17.000 Let me just say what I said last night.

00:38:21.000 That plan is a campaign to make America white again. 0.95

00:38:26.000 It's a plan that says over 50% of the current legal immigration will be cut back.

00:38:33.000 Okay, it's just racism.

00:38:35.000 You understand?

00:38:36.000 Racism!

00:38:38.000 Okay, so, if you think that the plan is to make America white again, by allowing 1.8 million non-white people to become legal American immigrants, and then another 4 million people, who are probably not white, to get into the United States, like, I'm missing how this works. 0.56

00:38:50.000 I'm just missing how this works.

00:38:51.000 And then Bernie Sanders comes forward, and he says, listen, we may not have gotten anything out of that whole government shutdown.

00:38:56.000 We may actually have backfired dramatically.

00:38:58.000 It may have failed pretty dramatically, but it was the right thing to do.

00:39:02.000 Just like I talk about socialism and nothing happens, and I come from a state where people keep voting for me.

00:39:07.000 That's the nice thing. 0.99

00:39:08.000 When I do the right thing, everyone gives you credit, even when you are useless. 0.95

00:39:12.000 You know how many pudding cups I have in my third vacation home? 0.79

00:39:15.000 Many, many, many pudding cups of all flavors.

00:39:18.000 I prefer tapioca, but if forced to choose between chocolate and vanilla, I will always take the chocolate vanilla swirl.

00:39:26.000 Bernie Sanders, go!

00:39:27.000 Yes, I think from a moral perspective it was the right thing to do.

00:39:43.000 I think so.

00:39:58.000 They didn't even know that they were not American citizens.

00:40:00.000 So we have got to stand with these young people.

00:40:03.000 Okay, they're not standing with the young people.

00:40:05.000 They're telling the young people they can never become citizens.

00:40:07.000 Okay, this is really what they are saying.

00:40:08.000 They're saying that the young people can never become citizens because it's more important they play political football with all of this.

00:40:12.000 Trump hits the nail on the head.

00:40:13.000 So yeah, last week, if you recall, not to say that I'm right about everything, but about virtually everything I'm right.

00:40:19.000 I was wrong on one big thing, right?

00:40:20.000 The election result in 2016.

00:40:22.000 But on everything else, I am right.

00:40:24.000 My children know this.

00:40:25.000 My employees know this.

00:40:26.000 Of course, they're paid to know this.

00:40:27.000 But the fact is that when it comes to the strategy that was being laid out, a lot of people last week were saying, look at Trump just caving on immigration.

00:40:34.000 Look at him caving on immigration. 0.54

00:40:36.000 He's offering this huge immigration package.

00:40:38.000 He's bargaining against himself.

00:40:39.000 And what I said is, look, Trump knows there's no deal forthcoming.

00:40:42.000 So what he's doing is he's posturing.

00:40:43.000 He's saying, look, I am willing to be this generous to the illegal immigrants, and Democrats are still not willing to do a deal?

00:40:49.000 Like, I'm giving away the shop and they're not willing to do a deal, which just shows how disingenuous they are, which is correct.

00:40:54.000 And Trump says this out loud.

00:40:55.000 This is one of the things that is sort of irritating about Trump.

00:40:58.000 I've worked on this story for a year and then he just tweets it out.

00:41:00.000 What I love about President Trump is that if you think that the man thinks strategically, he sometimes does, but then he tweets out his strategy.

00:41:08.000 So here's what he tweets out.

00:41:10.000 I have offered DACA a wonderful deal, including a doubling in the number of recipients and a 12-year pathway to citizenship for two reasons.

00:41:17.000 One, because the Republicans want to fix a long-time, terrible problem.

00:41:21.000 Two, to show that Democrats do not want to solve DACA, only use it.

00:41:25.000 Let's see, whose logic was I suggesting that was last week?

00:41:28.000 That's right!

00:41:29.000 That's exactly what I said last week.

00:41:30.000 So, point to me.

00:41:33.000 Of course, that was the strategy.

00:41:35.000 Democrats were never going to do a deal. 1.00

00:41:36.000 And it does make Democrats look ridiculous and foolish that they continue to push forward this myth that Trump is a giant racist. 1.00

00:41:42.000 He's a huge racist! 1.00

00:41:44.000 And his racism cannot be contained as he offers a deal that is significantly better than any of the deals that even Obama put on the table. 0.99

00:41:52.000 That's pretty astonishing.

00:41:53.000 Now, in breaking news, apparently—let's see if this is true.

00:41:56.000 I just have to—you know, one of the nice things about doing a live show is that when news breaks, news breaks, there's a rumor going around that Andrew McCabe is about to step down at the FBI.

00:42:06.000 I'm just going to check that really quickly.

00:42:08.000 He is stepping down, apparently.

00:42:10.000 NBC News is suggesting that he just quit as deputy FBI director.

00:42:14.000 He's going to remain on leave until spring, when he can officially retire from the Bureau.

00:42:18.000 The reason that he's doing that is because he wants to maintain his paycheck.

00:42:21.000 He's stepping down right now.

00:42:25.000 The idea here is that Trump has been attacking him as corrupt.

00:42:27.000 Now, Andy McCabe should have stepped down from the Hillary investigation a long time ago, if you recall, in the text.

00:42:32.000 The reason he's really stepping down here is because the attacks on McCabe have elevated.

00:42:35.000 That's right, they should have elevated, because there were new texts that were out between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, those FBI agents who are knocking boots, and those texts suggested that Andy McCabe

00:42:47.000 Could have recused himself from the Hillary investigation, didn't do it early or maybe for political reasons, and that he was involved with basically covering for Hillary.

00:42:54.000 According to NBC News, he stepped down from his post effective immediately.

00:42:57.000 He was reportedly set to retire in March when he's fully eligible for his pension.

00:43:00.000 He'd come under increasing criticism from Republicans over alleged political bias in the FBI and investigations into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia during the 2016 election.

00:43:10.000 So, the Democrats will try to turn this into Trump somehow obstructed justice here, but

00:43:16.000 It's not clear to me exactly how McCabe voluntarily stepping down amounts to that.

00:43:20.000 He's not being fired, he's just stepping down.

00:43:22.000 But that is the latest breaking news on Andy McCabe.

00:43:25.000 Now speaking of breaking news, the Republicans are supposed to vote today in the House Intelligence Committee about releasing the memo.

00:43:32.000 So, as you recall, the memo was written by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, and Devin Nunes wrote this four-page memo that was supposed to summarize all of the problems with the intelligence-gathering process when it came to President Trump and the Trump-Russia surveillance campaign and all the rest.

00:43:48.000 So, that memo had been classified in order for it to be declassified, as we asked Representative

00:43:57.000 What's the name of the representative?

00:43:58.000 Jim Jordan.

00:43:59.000 We asked Representative Jordan from Ohio last week.

00:44:01.000 We asked him about declassification.

00:44:03.000 He said it's a simple House Intelligence Committee vote.

00:44:05.000 They're supposed to vote today to declassify.

00:44:07.000 Then the President of the United States has seven days to either knock down the declassification or to uphold the declassification.

00:44:13.000 House Leader Kevin McCarthy says it's time to release the memo because the public has to see everything.

00:44:18.000 Aren't we separate but co-equal?

00:44:19.000 Don't we have a view?

00:44:20.000 Don't we have the responsibility for oversight?

00:44:22.000 And the Justice Department will be able to see it, because you have the Executive Branch and you have the Legislative Branch.

00:44:27.000 And as the Legislative Branch looks at it, it will send it to the Executive Branch beforehand.

00:44:31.000 They have the approval whether to declassify and put it forward.

00:44:35.000 So they will have the opportunity, if the committee... Do you want the President to declassify this memo?

00:44:39.000 Having read this memo, I think it would be appropriate that the public has full view.

00:44:44.000 So as I said, my view here is that we should declassify everything, right?

00:44:46.000 Declassify this memo, the Democrats have their own memo, declassify the underlying materials so far as it doesn't compromise national security.

00:44:52.000 There's too much swirling around.

00:44:54.000 There's too much swirling around.

00:44:55.000 There are people complaining.

00:44:57.000 Oh no, there was a FISA warrant taken out on Carter Page.

00:45:00.000 Was it based on the dossier?

00:45:01.000 Maybe it was based on the dossier, maybe it wasn't.

00:45:03.000 We'll find out when you release the memo and when you release all of the underlying information.

00:45:07.000 Right now, I just have two sides yelling at each other, and that's not useful for anything.

00:45:11.000 All that's happening is chaos.

00:45:12.000 There's a feeling of chaos.

00:45:13.000 And, of course, the media wish to play up the feeling of chaos.

00:45:15.000 Democrats wish to exacerbate the feeling of chaos.

00:45:18.000 And then Republicans, in response, wish to generate their own tornado of chaos in order to prevent any sort of narrative from forming that Trump was obstructing justice on all of this.

00:45:29.000 So we'll bring you all the latest on all of this in just a few minutes, because it really is kind of insane.

00:45:35.000 First, let's do some things I like and some things that I hate.

00:45:38.000 Time for some things I like.

00:45:39.000 First thing that I like.

00:45:41.000 So, just to contrast music with non-music, the Grammy Awards, which are filled with nonsense and yuck, I want to contrast that with actual godly music.

00:45:50.000 This would be the music of Johann Sebastian Bach.

00:45:52.000 There's a good biography of Bach.

00:45:53.000 I'm doing a lot of musical biographies lately.

00:45:55.000 I finished the Brahms biography that I've been reading, and it's just fantastic.

00:45:59.000 John Eliot Gardner has a very good book about Bach.

00:46:01.000 It's called Bach, Music in the Castle of Heaven.

00:46:04.000 And he talks about Bach's life and his music.

00:46:21.000 We're good to go.

00:46:43.000 Then Mozart actually took a break from composing for months to study the counterpoint in Bach.

00:46:48.000 If you look at Bach's music, it's very often sounds... For example, when you listen to Bach's inventions, his two-part inventions, then what you see in his piano music is the use of counterpoint.

00:47:00.000 Counterpoint is basically two themes that are playing simultaneously, and it sounds like two different instruments are playing simultaneously.

00:47:06.000 It's just brilliantly written.

00:47:07.000 He's also written some of the most beautiful music that's ever been written.

00:47:10.000 So we'll have to play some Bach this week.

00:47:12.000 I'll pick some favorite pieces of mine that are Bach, because they really are spectacular.

00:47:16.000 OK, other things that I like.

00:47:17.000 So the one thing at the Grammys that was pretty great, Joy Villa, who has been a guest, I believe, on Michael Moulse's show.

00:47:26.000 She showed up last year wearing a Make America Great Again dress, and it made all sorts of headlines.

00:47:30.000 So she knows what she's doing.

00:47:31.000 So this was pretty great.

00:47:33.000 She showed up at the Grammys today, yesterday, wearing a white dress.

00:47:36.000 And then in the corner of the dress,

00:47:38.000 If you can't see this, in the corner of the dress, she is wearing what looks like a fetus in the womb, and then her purse is painted on it, Choose Life.

00:47:45.000 So she's wearing a pro-life thing to the Grammys. 0.95

00:47:48.000 Good for her.

00:47:49.000 Good for her.

00:47:49.000 You know, put aside people have other issues with Joy Vila.

00:47:52.000 Good for her that she has the guts to actually come forward and represent a pro-life position in the least pro-life place on planet Earth last night at the Grammy Awards.

00:48:01.000 Okay, time for a quick thing I hate, and then I'll do a Federalist paper.

00:48:03.000 So, quick thing that I hate.

00:48:09.000 OK, so Kirsten Gillibrand wants to run for president. 1.00

00:48:12.000 And she tweeted out last night, she's on The View yesterday, she's going to be the new face of the female candidacies inside the Democratic Party. 1.00

00:48:20.000 It'll be a giant fail.

00:48:21.000 If she runs, she will lose.

00:48:22.000 Trump will beat her.

00:48:23.000 Here's what Kirsten Gillibrand tweeted, though.

00:48:24.000 She said, if women made up 51% of Congress, do you think we would still be fighting to protect a woman's right to choose? 0.78

00:48:30.000 Do you think the Senate would be voting on a dangerous 20-week abortion ban?

00:48:33.000 Absolutely not.

00:48:35.000 So the idea here is that, of course, identity is politics.

00:48:37.000 If you're a woman, you cannot be pro-life. 1.00

00:48:39.000 My wife is a woman. 0.99

00:48:40.000 My wife is pro-life.

00:48:41.000 In fact, there was a poll that was done in January, according to Guy Benson.

00:48:44.000 Okay, there's a poll done like this month.

00:48:46.000 62% of American women favor the idea of a ban on abortion after 20 weeks, making exceptions for the life of the mother.

00:48:52.000 62%.

00:48:52.000 So yes, that vote would still be happening.

00:48:55.000 There was a vote last year.

00:48:57.000 It said 42% of women support that idea.

00:48:59.000 If women made up 51% of Congress, sure, that vote might still be taking place because women are fully capable of being moral. 1.00

00:49:06.000 Women are fully capable of realizing that what is growing inside them is a baby and not just a piece of garbage. 1.00

00:49:12.000 Kirsten Gillibrand. 1.00

00:49:12.000 I'm so sick of the identity politics of the left. 1.00

00:49:14.000 It's just, it's mind rotting and soul decaying.

00:49:17.000 Okay, time for a quick Federalist paper.

00:49:19.000 So, fortunately, this is a relatively short one.

00:49:21.000 Federalist 13.

00:49:22.000 We've been going through one a week and we are all the way to 13.

00:49:24.000 Written by Alexander Hamilton.

00:49:25.000 This one specifically talks about the costs that are saved by a federal government rather than three regional governments.

00:49:31.000 He says, if the states are united under one government,

00:49:34.000 I don't know.

00:49:53.000 This was true for most of the period of the American Republic.

00:49:57.000 It has not been true for the last 100 years.

00:49:58.000 We now have something like 2 million people working for the federal government, which is because the federal government has grown and become insane.

00:50:04.000 It's just a giant bureaucracy.

00:50:06.000 He also predicts—there are a lot of predictions in the Federalist Papers about what would happen if the country ever broke apart.

00:50:11.000 He says a lot of people think the country would break into three parts.

00:50:14.000 He says it wouldn't.

00:50:15.000 It would break into two.

00:50:16.000 He says it would break into two in the case of disunion.

00:50:19.000 They will most naturally lead themselves under two governments.

00:50:21.000 Of course, that came true in the Civil War.

00:50:22.000 So the Founding Fathers knew the risks of disunion even back when they were writing the Constitution.

00:50:27.000 OK, we'll be back here tomorrow with all the latest breaking news, and I'm sure there will be much.

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Politics By The Grammy | Ep. 463

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