The Ben Shapiro Show - Putin’s Escalation Continues | Ep. 1452

00:00:00.000 Vladimir Putin unleashes a strike against a Ukrainian base along the Polish border.

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00:01:33.000 Alrighty, so Russia continues to ratchet up the pressure in this war on Ukraine.

00:01:38.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, the latest that a Russian airstrike on a Ukrainian military training center close to the Polish border threw into sharp relief the hazards of the Western push to deliver arms support to Kiev while avoiding direct conflict with a nuclear adversary.

00:01:50.000 The airstrike killed 35 people at the facility in Yavoriv, about 10 miles from the Polish border, early on Sunday, far to the west of where the conflict has been concentrated.

00:01:58.000 If you look at the map, you can see that Kiev is sort of two-thirds of the way west of the eastern boundary of Ukraine.

00:02:04.000 And this particular facility is right on the border.

00:02:06.000 It's one day after Moscow warned the West it would consider arms deliveries to Ukraine as legitimate targets.

00:02:12.000 A large portion of the military aid from the West passes through Poland into western Ukraine.

00:02:16.000 Part of the fine line, the US and NATO are walking between aiding Ukraine militarily while steering clear of providing troops or enforcing a no-fly zone that Ukraine has called The expansion of Russia's aggression to a target close to Poland also increases the risk of war encroaching on NATO territory, which the United States has already warned would be treated as an attack on the alliance.

00:02:33.000 Any strike on Poland would bring the full force of the NATO alliance to bear in responding to it, according to Jake Sullivan, the U.S.

00:02:39.000 National Security Advisor.

00:02:40.000 So right now the question is, what exactly are the Russians doing?

00:02:43.000 And the answer, of course, is that the Russians are ratcheting things up. 0.89

00:02:46.000 They are attempting to pressure the West into cracking. 0.78

00:02:49.000 They see cracks in the Western alliance as far as how far the West is willing to go.

00:02:53.000 They see vulnerabilities and they are currently seeking to exploit those vulnerabilities.

00:02:57.000 What they understand is that if they pressure the West enough into not giving Ukraine the kind of support it needs, the high likelihood at that point is that Zelensky makes the sorts of concessions the West doesn't like, but that do preserve Zelensky in power in Ukraine while limiting what he can actually do on behalf of Ukraine.

00:03:14.000 What Russia is asking for right now, demanding, not asking for since they have 200,000 troops in country, what they are demanding is that Ukraine recognize as independent the breakaway regions of Donetsk and Luhansk over in the eastern part of Ukraine, that they recognize the Russian annexation of Crimea, which has been a longstanding Russian demand because the majority of Crimea are Russian speaking people.

00:03:38.000 They held a plenum In 2014, it was an election that wasn't particularly clean, in which the people of Crimea supposedly voted to join Russia.

00:03:49.000 In all likelihood, the reality is that if you held a clean election, it's possible, maybe probable, that Crimea votes to join Russia anyway, although in the aftermath of this particular attack, it's possible that that goes the other way.

00:03:59.000 In any case, what Russia is demanding is that those breakaway regions Which were essentially seeded by Vladimir Putin by putting his so-called little green men inside to start some sort of insurrectionary war against the Ukrainian government and then create breakaway provinces that would join with Russia in foreign policy that Ukraine recognized that it does not have any control over those regions.

00:04:17.000 They also want Ukraine to say that it will never join NATO or join the EU.

00:04:21.000 Those are the big things.

00:04:22.000 Those are the big asks and demands from the Russian government.

00:04:25.000 And the longer this war goes on and the more weakness the West shows, the more likely Zelensky is going to say to the West, listen, you guys are more than happy to see this war go on with Ukrainian bodies in the streets, but you're not willing to give us the kind of support that would be actually necessary to beat the Russians back to Russia. 0.64

00:04:41.000 All you really want to see is us continue to resist, but not strongly enough that it would trigger a larger war.

00:04:46.000 And so you know what?

00:04:47.000 I'm not up for that.

00:04:47.000 I'm going to give them what the reality on the ground already is.

00:04:50.000 Then I'm going to say that we won because we preserved Ukraine's independence from Russia, even if we had to make some concessions.

00:04:55.000 But the truth is, you weren't letting us into the EU anyway.

00:04:58.000 That's true.

00:04:59.000 You weren't letting us into NATO anyway.

00:05:00.000 That is also true.

00:05:01.000 So what exactly do I have to lose by cutting a deal here?

00:05:05.000 The longer this goes on, in other words, the more it looks like Putin's gamble, which is that the West was going to chicken out, that the West was essentially going to back down to him.

00:05:12.000 It looks like that gamble was not entirely misplaced.

00:05:16.000 So a few things can be true at once.

00:05:17.000 One, this was a miscalculation by Putin because he thought it would, number one, be a cakewalk.

00:05:21.000 And number two, the West wouldn't respond at all.

00:05:23.000 And number two, Putin's basic premise, which is that the longer he holds out and the more damage he does, the more likely that the West is going to cave to his demands.

00:05:30.000 That can still be true.

00:05:32.000 Because, as it turns out, folks in the West, leaders in the West, are still highly dependent on Russian oil and natural gas in Europe, for example.

00:05:41.000 And as we will see, the Biden administration is still counting on the Russians to cut a crappy Iran nuclear deal.

00:05:46.000 So Putin is just figuring if I ratchet up the tension, if I kill enough people, then Zelensky is going to cave to me.

00:05:52.000 He'll claim some sort of victory.

00:05:53.000 I'll claim some sort of victory.

00:05:54.000 I'll get most of what I wanted.

00:05:56.000 Sure, it won't have been what I really wanted, which is to kill Zelensky and take over the entire country. 1.00

00:06:01.000 But the reality is that the guerrilla war that has essentially started inside Ukraine And the Ukrainian military fending off the Russian military is a suggestion to Putin that a long-term occupation is a really, really bad idea there.

00:06:12.000 So maybe the best thing that Putin can hope to get out of this is Zelensky in power, but essentially conceding the major points that Putin wants in Ukraine in the first place.

00:06:24.000 Now, the reason I say all of this is because the West is showing signs of cracking.

00:06:29.000 The West, when this first happened, they said we're going to ship as much weaponry as we could possibly want into there.

00:06:33.000 There was an open talk just last week by the Secretary of State, Tony Blinken, on national television about how we were going to help ship old MiGs into Ukraine so that they could make sure that Russia couldn't create a no-fly zone over Ukraine.

00:06:45.000 And there's two possibilities.

00:06:46.000 One, NATO creating a no-fly zone.

00:06:48.000 That was off the table because we didn't want to go to direct war with the Russians in the air.

00:06:52.000 But the second was, don't let Russia have a no-fly zone.

00:06:55.000 Make sure that Ukraine can still fend them off in the air, and that would have meant shipping MiGs, old Soviet MiGs, into Ukraine. 0.96

00:07:02.000 Now, by the way, the reason you ship MiGs into Ukraine as opposed to, say, F-22s or F-35s is because the Ukrainian pilots don't actually know how to fly F-22s or F-35s.

00:07:11.000 They know how to fly old Soviet MiGs because that's what their air force is at this point.

00:07:15.000 But the problem is, every time Putin pushes, the West seems to crack just a little bit.

00:07:21.000 So, for example, This whole debate over sending MiGs into Ukraine, it started off last week with the Secretary of State saying, let's do it.

00:07:29.000 And by the end of the week, the United States was saying, we absolutely are not going to do it.

00:07:32.000 And as it turns out, that was a call directly from the top.

00:07:35.000 That was a Joe Biden call.

00:07:36.000 According to Politico, that was no one else.

00:07:38.000 That was Joe Biden who stepped in and said, we are not going to actually allow the shipping of MiGs into Ukraine via our airbase.

00:07:46.000 Over at Ramstein in Germany.

00:07:47.000 We're not going to do that.

00:07:48.000 And we're also going to be pretty cautious about allowing the Poles to do that as well. 1.00

00:07:52.000 Here was Joe Biden over the weekend saying that he thinks that if we had sent planes into Ukraine over the border via Ukrainian pilots, that this would have been World War III.

00:08:01.000 But we're already sending all sorts of anti-air batteries.

00:08:05.000 We're already sending Javelin missiles in there.

00:08:07.000 We're sending Stingers. 0.99

00:08:08.000 We're sending all sorts of weaponry over the border.

00:08:09.000 Why exactly would this be any different?

00:08:11.000 And if the idea is, well, you know, it's because Vladimir Putin is going to get pissed, Vladimir Putin has already declared that economic warfare is a form of warfare.

00:08:18.000 He's already threatened nuclear war here.

00:08:20.000 So do you really believe that Vladimir Putin is going to launch a nuclear war if you send a few MiGs over the border? 0.86

00:08:26.000 Not to fight the Russians directly, by the way, to just land at Ukrainian air bases that the Ukrainian military can fight the Russians.

00:08:33.000 We've already been rearming.

00:08:34.000 It's not a mystery here.

00:08:35.000 There's no deniability.

00:08:37.000 Here's Joe Biden basically caving under pressure from Vladimir Putin.

00:08:42.000 The idea that we're going to send in offensive equipment and have planes and tanks and trains going in with American pilots and American crews.

00:08:51.000 Just understand, and don't kid yourself, no matter what you all say, that's called World War III.

00:09:00.000 Okay, so now he's just parroting whatever Putin is saying.

00:09:03.000 First of all, we weren't talking about sending American pilots and American planes over the border.

00:09:07.000 We were talking about sending old Soviet planes over the border without American pilots, like Ukrainian pilots. 0.92

00:09:12.000 It's not the same thing at all.

00:09:14.000 And when he says, well, you know, if we send offensive weapons, what do you think guns are?

00:09:18.000 Seriously, what is it?

00:09:19.000 Please explain to me the difference between sending Javelin missiles And anti-aircraft missiles that are going to take down planes and sending in planes that are going to take down planes.

00:09:27.000 You're gonna have to explain the logical differentiation between those two things.

00:09:31.000 Nobody's talking about sending in Soviet MiGs.

00:09:33.000 They can attack Russian bases in Russia.

00:09:36.000 The hell is he talking about? 1.00

00:09:37.000 So Vladimir Putin looks at this crazy old man. 1.00

00:09:39.000 He's like, well, I feel like I can just keep going here. 0.96

00:09:42.000 And the longer I go, the better chance they are going to back down.

00:09:45.000 And it's kind of an amazing thing, because right now you have a second-rate world power, which is what the Russians are. 1.00

00:09:50.000 They are a nuclear arm, but they are a second-rate world power. 0.82

00:09:52.000 They are a gas station with a nuclear arsenal, dictating terms to the United States, the most powerful country on planet Earth, with a military significantly more powerful than any in the history of mankind. 0.64

00:10:04.000 And Wendy Sherman over at the State Department, she's saying the same thing.

00:10:07.000 The Pentagon says that, you know, if we move jets to Ukraine, it could get very complicated.

00:10:10.000 So in other words, when Putin threatens you guys enough, you back down.

00:10:13.000 So why would you think that Putin... That's why Putin is ratcheting things up.

00:10:17.000 As it turns out, every time you show weakness to the bear, the bear attacks.

00:10:21.000 The Pentagon, however, made an assessment that trying to move these planes was very complicated, that backfilling them was virtually impossible, that what Ukrainians really needed were anti-aircraft, anti-tank and anti-armor weapons, which is what we are supplying them in great measure and coordinating with other countries to do the same.

00:10:44.000 Well, it seems like they were directly asking for those jets.

00:10:47.000 So, no.

00:10:48.000 Now, when John Kirby from the Pentagon, he says it's the same thing, you know, well, you know, it's really not in their interest for the United States and Russia to get into an air... Who's talking about an air war?

00:10:56.000 What are you talking about?

00:10:57.000 You're talking about the Ukrainians flying old Soviet MiGs across the border into Ukraine.

00:11:02.000 That's what we're talking about right now.

00:11:03.000 We're not talking about the United States getting... No one wants an air war with Russia.

00:11:06.000 Nobody wants a war with Russia.

00:11:08.000 And Putin is using that.

00:11:10.000 He's using the fact that the West doesn't want a war with him in order to get pretty much everything that he craves.

00:11:14.000 Here's John Kirby from the Pentagon.

00:11:16.000 Wow.

00:11:18.000 If you put American planes, American pilots in that, you're basically going to war with Russia. 0.75

00:11:22.000 I, as a young officer on an aircraft carrier, participated from the ship in a no-fly zone effort over northern Iraq.

00:11:29.000 It is combat.

00:11:30.000 There's no way you can do that without being willing to shoot and be shot at. 0.93

00:11:34.000 It is combat.

00:11:34.000 And I don't think it's in anybody's interest, certainly not Ukraine's interest, for the United States and Russia to be getting in a war in their airspace.

00:11:43.000 Nobody is talking about that.

00:11:44.000 Nobody wants that.

00:11:46.000 But let's be real about this.

00:11:47.000 We've been shipping millions of dollars in weaponry over that border consistently since the beginning of this war.

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00:13:11.000 Now, one of the things that's happening here is that Putin is assuming Western weakness based on our signals.

00:13:18.000 The reality is that Putin does not walk across the border in Ukraine unless he thought that the West was weak.

00:13:21.000 And maybe one of the reasons he thought the West was weak is because the West was weak.

00:13:25.000 Up until December, the White House was telling Vladimir Putin he better cut that out.

00:13:28.000 Why doesn't he just get on board with the global Build Back Better plan?

00:13:31.000 That worked out great.

00:13:32.000 And now, according to Politico, in December 2021, senior U.S.

00:13:36.000 military officials told lawmakers they wanted to send a few hundred additional special ops personnel to Ukraine to provide military advice and training on unconventional warfare.

00:13:44.000 At the time, Russia had amassed roughly 100,000 troops on the border with Ukraine.

00:13:47.000 Concerns were growing in Washington and Europe about a broadening invasion.

00:13:50.000 But the White House had concerns about the deployment.

00:13:53.000 The troops were never sent.

00:13:55.000 Apparently, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin planned to directly press Joe Biden to approve the mission, and Biden turned it down.

00:14:02.000 A senior military official told House lawmakers the White House was concerned sending the troops would escalate the already tense situation with Russia.

00:14:08.000 Yeah, I mean, good thing we didn't send those troops.

00:14:09.000 Otherwise, the Russians might have crossed that border and invaded Ukraine or something.

00:14:13.000 Which they did.

00:14:15.000 A third congressional official told Politico, a Pentagon official briefed the Senate Armed Services Committee, that plans have been scrapped due to those concerns.

00:14:22.000 The Biden administration hoped diplomacy might still work and feared an influx of U.S.

00:14:26.000 troops could scuttle those efforts.

00:14:27.000 Once again, these folks are operating in la-la land. 0.76

00:14:30.000 They are operating in cloud cuckoo land.

00:14:32.000 It's insane.

00:14:32.000 They are operating from the perspective.

00:14:34.000 That it is somehow America helping our allies defend themselves that causes our adversaries to get aggressive.

00:14:41.000 It is precisely the opposite.

00:14:42.000 Our adversaries get more aggressive when they believe we are weak.

00:14:45.000 It is not that we get strong and so our adversaries challenge us.

00:14:48.000 It is that we get weak and so our adversaries challenge us.

00:14:50.000 This is the way that it works throughout life.

00:14:51.000 I'm so confused by this notion.

00:14:53.000 Like, just take it on a personal level.

00:14:56.000 There's a guy, he's walking around your high school.

00:14:58.000 He works out all the time, and it just so happens that he might be carrying a switchblade.

00:15:02.000 Is that the guy you attack, or is the guy that you attack the one who looks vulnerable and who's carrying around a wallet full of lunch money?

00:15:09.000 Who do you attack? 1.00

00:15:10.000 Like, this is the stupidest thing in the world. 0.99

00:15:12.000 Well, you know, if we look strong and we carry around the switchblade, that might make them feel more violent against us, and then they might attack Ukraine. 0.99

00:15:18.000 Well, like really slow clap for the Biden administration, which said in December, we're not going to send special ops people over there for training because doing so might incentivize the Russians to attack because clearly you avoided that attack.

00:15:28.000 You just did a great job.

00:15:31.000 A White House spokesperson is now trying to deny this, saying no such plans for additional training were ever presented to the White House or the NSC.

00:15:37.000 We have no idea what this is referring to, said the spokesperson.

00:15:40.000 A Defense Department official said Biden and the White House, quote, did not cancel any planned training activities for Ukraine until U.S.

00:15:45.000 forces were repositioned in February.

00:15:47.000 Neither official would comment on the Capitol Hill briefings themselves or whether a mission was discussed with the White House informally that fell below the threshold of an official plan.

00:15:54.000 So yeah, that means that that happened.

00:15:57.000 That's precisely what happened there.

00:15:59.000 So Russia is striking near the Polish border now.

00:16:03.000 And by the way, they're now threatening.

00:16:05.000 I should just point out here that when you have the Biden administration claiming that it's the shipment across the border of the jets that is really going to be the deciding factor as to whether a war begins.

00:16:19.000 Let me just point out here that the Soviet foreign minister, Russian foreign minister Ryabkov, he came out yesterday and he said that if you ship in air defense systems, that will be an escalation.

00:16:31.000 Not just jets, air defense systems.

00:16:33.000 This is according to the Russian deputy foreign minister.

00:16:35.000 So again, they keep just ratcheting up the rhetoric, knowing that the more they ratchet up the rhetoric, the more the Biden administration is going to back down.

00:16:42.000 Which is also why they're attacking near the Polish border, because what they're saying is, do you want us to call your bluff?

00:16:47.000 Are you interested in us calling your bluff?

00:16:50.000 Is that really what you want?

00:16:51.000 By the way, we actually have video of the aftermath of the strike on the base that was near the Polish border.

00:16:57.000 You can see, this is a pretty major strike.

00:16:59.000 That's a lot of stuff that's on fire over there.

00:17:04.000 If you can't see this, basically it's a...

00:17:08.000 This area, which is well out of the line of battle, is smoking rubble.

00:17:13.000 It's a smoking heap of rubble.

00:17:15.000 Giant crater right in the middle of the street.

00:17:18.000 That is a Russian missile that is hitting about 10 miles from the Polish border.

00:17:21.000 Now, the United States is warning that NATO would respond if Russia actually directly hits Poland.

00:17:28.000 This is their response, that if you really do it, if you really do it, then we will respond to you.

00:17:35.000 But it's and I think that Putin knows that that is likely true.

00:17:39.000 But the whole point here is he's going to back you guys down.

00:17:42.000 He's got me.

00:17:42.000 All you guys do is you make threats and then you don't actually fulfill on on your threats.

00:17:46.000 I mean, right now, at the moment, the French and the Germans, according to CNN, are pushing Zelensky for an immediate ceasefire.

00:17:55.000 It is the people who are on the defensive side.

00:17:58.000 It's NATO pushing for the ceasefire.

00:18:00.000 It's NATO who's pushing Zelensky for some sort of concessions here.

00:18:03.000 Because they're not willing to go full hog.

00:18:04.000 And Putin knows that, which is why he's pushing harder.

00:18:07.000 Here is CNN reporting it yesterday.

00:18:10.000 President Zelensky also spoke to the French President.

00:18:12.000 He also had a phone conversation with the German Chancellor ahead of their phone call with the Russian President.

00:18:17.000 And he urged them, when they spoke to Vladimir Putin, to press for that ceasefire.

00:18:22.000 Now that is what the two leaders did.

00:18:24.000 A source at the Elysee Palace says that President Macron and Chancellor Schultz Both pressed Vladimir Putin on that point, emphasizing the growing cost of the war to Russia and urging him, therefore, to change his calculation.

00:18:43.000 Okay, so, I mean, they can push Putin as much as they want, but here is the point.

00:18:46.000 The folks in Germany know 50% of their energy is coming from Russia.

00:18:50.000 So what exactly are they going to do?

00:18:52.000 Do they think this is a long term plan?

00:18:54.000 I don't think it's a long term plan.

00:18:55.000 Meanwhile, Joe Biden keeps making threats.

00:18:57.000 But here's the thing.

00:18:57.000 Every time he makes a threat, he then seems to back down from the threat other than economic sanctions and economic sanctions.

00:19:02.000 It's easy to pull the trigger on those because those don't actually involve loss of life.

00:19:07.000 They also don't achieve what you're seeking to achieve as a general rule, unless you're willing to do like a full-time war blockade on a country.

00:19:13.000 Economic sanctions, they will squeeze, but they will not stop.

00:19:17.000 Here was Joe Biden over the weekend threatening that if Russia uses chemical weapons, they would pay a severe price.

00:19:22.000 Well, I remember another Democratic president who once proclaimed that if a country used chemical weapons, it would cross a red line.

00:19:28.000 You know who benefited from that?

00:19:30.000 Russia, because if you recall, that was Barack Obama in Syria saying that if Bashar Assad used a chemical weapon, the United States would do something.

00:19:37.000 So Bashar Assad used a chemical weapon, and the United States' preferred policy under Barack Obama was, what if I just turn over Syria to Russia?

00:19:43.000 And then Russia came in and leveled Aleppo.

00:19:45.000 So great job, everyone.

00:19:48.000 I'm sure this is very credible.

00:19:49.000 All the military threats are very credible.

00:19:51.000 When you have Joe Biden doing his, I'm going to clutch my binder routine.

00:19:55.000 Whenever he starts clutching the binder, you can see the insecurity in the body language. 0.99

00:19:58.000 It really is pathetic. 1.00

00:19:59.000 Here's the president. 0.99

00:20:01.000 Would the U.S. 0.71

00:20:02.000 have a military response if Putin does launch a chemical weapons attack?

00:20:05.000 I'm not going to speak about the intelligence, but Russia would pay a severe price if it used chemical weapons. 0.69

00:20:13.000 Oh, really?

00:20:14.000 Like what?

00:20:14.000 What would that severe price be, precisely?

00:20:16.000 Because you said they were going to pay a severe price for crossing the Ukrainian border, and now you won't ship MIGs in. 0.99

00:20:21.000 And also, you seem afraid to ship more weaponry in of that type.

00:20:28.000 And as it turns out, you are even afraid to call the Russians out when it comes to the Iran deal.

00:20:32.000 We'll get to that in just a moment.

00:20:34.000 By the way, the Belarusian president, Alexander Lukashenko, who's an ally with Putin, he's like, I'm glad this war started. 0.95

00:20:38.000 I mean, he's full out saying it.

00:20:39.000 He's like, I don't see us losing any face here.

00:20:41.000 I think it'll be fine.

00:20:44.000 We didn't start this war.

00:20:45.000 Our consciousness is clear.

00:20:47.000 I'm glad it started.

00:20:48.000 Biological weapons, largest nuclear stations, all of this was ready to be exploded.

00:20:55.000 Okay, so those are lies.

00:20:57.000 I mean, the claim here is that the Ukrainians were going to use biological or nuclear weapons.

00:21:00.000 That is not true.

00:21:01.000 But the point here is that we're America's enemy's sea weakness.

00:21:05.000 They push where there's mush.

00:21:06.000 This has always been the plan.

00:21:08.000 They push where there's mush.

00:21:09.000 So the left likes to claim that the right is somehow pro-Putin.

00:21:12.000 There may be a couple, but there are a bunch of people on the left who seem to be pro-Putin.

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00:22:23.000 Now I'd be remiss if I did not note here that the media are playing a particular game where they pretend that there is widespread dissent on the right from the notion that we should stand up to Russia over the invasion of Ukraine.

00:22:34.000 Now there is a percentage of the right that believes that basically Putin should be able to do what he wants with Ukraine.

00:22:39.000 What business of it is it of ours?

00:22:40.000 Why do we care?

00:22:41.000 It shouldn't matter to us at all. 0.84

00:22:43.000 But there is also a significant portion of the left that is on national television saying that we shouldn't care about Ukraine because it's a bunch of white people. 0.74

00:22:51.000 I mean, MSNBC's Tiffany Cross, she came out over the weekend and she was like, you know, I find it ironic that Kamala Harris was in Poland because Poland is filled with white supremacists. 0.79

00:22:58.000 Poland!

00:22:59.000 Okay, we're not even talking about Ukraine at this point.

00:23:01.000 Poland, which is a NATO member.

00:23:04.000 It's not lost on me that she spoke in Poland as some people on the border of Poland were not welcoming to people of African and South Asian descent.

00:23:13.000 The vice president herself is of African and South Asian descent.

00:23:16.000 She didn't address this in her remarks, and we don't know if she addressed it privately or not, but I'm just curious your thoughts on the irony of that situation to see her where, you know, there is documented evidence of rampant white supremacy in Poland.

00:23:34.000 Well, I mean, obviously that was top priority.

00:23:36.000 I mean, you're in the middle of a war that may involve NATO soon, and Poland is the chief shipping mechanism into Ukraine.

00:23:40.000 But, I mean, obviously if Kamala Harris didn't talk about white supremacy and immigration policy at the Polish border, well done MSNBC. 1.00

00:23:47.000 Just really, really solid stuff from MSNBC.

00:23:50.000 Meanwhile, Ilhan Omar is taking the perspective that all of the sanctions on Russian oil and gas, that has to stop.

00:23:57.000 That has to stop.

00:23:57.000 She's very upset about that.

00:23:58.000 The reason, by the way, she's upset about that is because Russia is helping out her friends over in Iran and with regard to Hamas and all the rest.

00:24:06.000 We have to think about what this means a year from now, what this means two years, three years from now.

00:24:12.000 And I think ultimately this is not going to end well for the actual people of Russia and it's not going to end well for the people of Europe as well.

00:24:28.000 Well, I mean, take it from the open anti-Semite in Congress, who openly despises many things about America.

00:24:34.000 Meanwhile, the Iranians, over the weekend, decided it would be a great idea to fling a missile at a U.S. 0.99

00:24:40.000 consulate in Iraq.

00:24:41.000 So, there is actual video of this explosion in Erbil, Iraq, which is in Kurdistan, the Kurdish part of Iraq.

00:24:49.000 Iran is openly firing missiles into this area, and they are targeting places where American consulates are.

00:24:56.000 Here is a little bit of the video.

00:24:59.000 What?

00:24:59.000 Aha!

00:25:01.000 Allahumma salli ala Sayyidina Muhammad!

00:25:07.000 Okay, so that is pretty frightening.

00:25:09.000 According to the Associated Press, Iran claimed responsibility Sunday for a missile barrage that struck near a sprawling U.S.

00:25:14.000 consulate complex in northern Iraq, saying it was retaliation for an Israeli strike in Syria that killed two members of its Revolutionary Guard earlier this week.

00:25:21.000 So basically, Iran likes to lie that Mossad is all over the place and Mossad is in Iraq, and that's why they're attacking Iraq. 0.78

00:25:27.000 So if only Iraq would join Iran in attacking Israel, then all of this would stop. 0.93

00:25:32.000 Obviously, there's some pretty significant Shia versus Sunni interplay and violence in Iraq.

00:25:37.000 Not to mention the situation with the Kurds, where both the Iranians and the Iraqis are sort of fighting over Kurdistan and all the rest.

00:25:44.000 But here is the point.

00:25:47.000 The point here is that Iran is ratcheting up the pressure at Russia's behest.

00:25:52.000 That is what is happening here.

00:25:54.000 It should strike no one as a coincidence that in the middle of these Iran nuclear negotiations, Iran is flinging missiles near the U.S.

00:26:01.000 consulate complex in Erbil.

00:26:03.000 The reason they are doing this is once again, when America's enemies see mush, they push.

00:26:08.000 And right now, Russia believes that the United States has an interest in using Russia as the intermediary in order to get this Iran nuclear deal done.

00:26:15.000 John Kerry has made this absolutely clear.

00:26:17.000 The envoy, Robert Malley, has made this absolutely clear.

00:26:19.000 Joe Biden and his team have made this absolutely clear.

00:26:22.000 They keep saying over and over and over again, That they want to deal with Iran and they don't care that Iran is a terror sponsor.

00:26:28.000 They do not care that Iran threatens American allies ranging from Israel to Saudi Arabia to the UAE. 0.58

00:26:32.000 They don't care about any of that.

00:26:34.000 They want their deal.

00:26:35.000 They want it on a piece of paper.

00:26:36.000 And they want it tomorrow.

00:26:37.000 And they don't care what the terms of that deal are.

00:26:39.000 We've been playing you audio over the last week of the Russian mediator in that deal who's basically, right now, because the United States has a sanctions regime against the Iranians, whatever negotiations are happening in Vienna, basically you have the Russian emissary who's going back and forth between the United States and Iran.

00:26:53.000 He's running hotel to hotel to convey particular offers.

00:26:57.000 The Americans, in other words, are using the Russians who they are fighting in Ukraine in order to mediate with the Iranians. 0.53

00:27:02.000 And so right now, the Russians are basically trying to press their advantage. 0.86

00:27:05.000 The Russians are saying to the United States, we would like an Iran deal where you exempt our oil and natural gas from any sort of sanction so we can sell to Iran and Iran will sell to the world and then they will funnel the money back to us.

00:27:16.000 And also, if you don't do that, then maybe Iran will just ratchet up the tension.

00:27:19.000 I mean, after all, don't you want Iran under control?

00:27:21.000 Don't you want Iran to stop all of this stuff? 0.88

00:27:23.000 We can help you make Iran stop all of this stuff. 1.00

00:27:26.000 All you have to do is cave.

00:27:27.000 That's all you have to do.

00:27:28.000 To pretend that Russia isn't a part of what we saw when Iran is firing missiles at U.S.

00:27:32.000 consulates in Iraq is, of course, very silly, because right now, Russia is using Iran as a proxy, as they have been for quite a while, right here.

00:27:40.000 Iraq's foreign ministry on Sunday summoned Iran's ambassador to protest the attack, calling it a flagrant violation of the country's sovereignty.

00:27:46.000 No injuries were reported in Sunday's attack in Erbil.

00:27:49.000 It marked a significant escalation between the United States and Iran.

00:27:52.000 Hostility between the longtime foes has often played out in Iraq, whose government is allied with both countries.

00:27:57.000 The attack drew harsh condemnation from the Iraqi government, which called it a violation of international law and norms and demanded an explanation from Iranian leadership.

00:28:05.000 The United States, for its part, condemned the strike, said it was an unjustified attack on a civilian residence.

00:28:08.000 They said, we will support the government of Iraq in holding Iran accountable. 0.58

00:28:12.000 We will support our partners throughout the Middle East in confronting similar threats from Iran. 0.98

00:28:15.000 This is Jake Sullivan, National Security Advisor, said the United States of America stands behind the full sovereignty, independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq.

00:28:24.000 Will that in any way undermine the negotiations that are currently happening with Iran?

00:28:30.000 Of course not.

00:28:31.000 Wendy Sherman of the State Department, she comes out and she says, listen, we know that Iran is bad. 1.00

00:28:35.000 We know that Iran is pursuing terrorism. 0.63

00:28:37.000 But before we deal with the fact that they are a terrorist regime that is the great spreader of violence in the region, we have to sign a deal with them. 0.96

00:28:43.000 We just have to.

00:28:45.000 If Iran has a nuclear weapon, its ability to project power into the Middle East and to deter us, our allies and partners, is enormous.

00:28:55.000 So President Biden believes very strongly, as does Secretary Blinken, as do I, that we need to make sure that Iran never obtains a nuclear weapon.

00:29:04.000 And then we also need to deal with their malign behavior in the region.

00:29:09.000 But first we've got to make sure that they cannot obtain a nuclear weapon.

00:29:15.000 Just to get this straight, what she's actually saying is, yes, they're a terrorist state.

00:29:18.000 What if we give them a bunch of money and they'll promise us not to develop a new?

00:29:23.000 It's all part of the same. 1.00

00:29:23.000 These idiots. 1.00

00:29:24.000 It's the same regime. 1.00

00:29:25.000 The same regime pursuing terrorism is the same regime developing a nuclear weapon. 0.66

00:29:29.000 When you say, why don't we just give them a bunch of money?

00:29:31.000 Do you really think that they are going to be honest?

00:29:34.000 Has that been their history?

00:29:35.000 That they've been super honest and open about this nuclear program, which they say is for civilian purposes?

00:29:40.000 Why is it, if you, like, who has a stronger interest in the Middle East or anywhere on Earth in Iran not having a nuclear weapon?

00:29:46.000 The United States or, say, Israel, which is under nuclear threat from Iran.

00:29:50.000 Or Saudi Arabia, which is under nuclear threat.

00:29:52.000 Like, if all of those countries that are directly in the middle of that area, within the umbrella of the Iranian ballistic missile program, if all of them are saying this deal sucks, maybe you should listen to them. 0.69

00:30:04.000 But this administration has no interest in listening to them.

00:30:06.000 So what are the Russians doing?

00:30:07.000 They know they have leverage points.

00:30:09.000 So here are the leverage points the Russians have now activated. 0.70

00:30:12.000 The Russians have now activated the leverage point of the Iran negotiations, and they ratcheted it up by having Iran fire this missile at Erbil.

00:30:19.000 Because, again, the idea here is that if the Iranians demonstrate that they are full rogue, then the Biden administration will say, well, man, we really need to make a deal with them to stop all this. 0.99

00:30:28.000 We need to stop all this.

00:30:29.000 Maybe we should just let the Russians have their oil. 0.99

00:30:31.000 So that's leverage point number one.

00:30:32.000 Leverage point number two, the oil and natural gas in Western Europe.

00:30:35.000 claim that peace in our time and it's all fine. 0.98

00:30:37.000 So they're gonna use the leverage point in the Middle East with regard to Iran, because they know that Biden is obsessed with this idea that if he inks a deal with the Iranians, then he gets to be part of the history books, because he's a senile old dullard. 0.95

00:30:46.000 Okay, so that's leverage point number one.

00:30:47.000 Leverage point number two, the oil and natural gas in Western Europe.

00:30:51.000 So the Russians are looking West, and they can see that Europe cannot indefinitely undergo the kinds of sacrifice that they're currently undergoing.

00:30:59.000 They cannot continue to have energy be 100% more expensive than it was a month ago.

00:31:04.000 And so they know there's going to be pressure on the Americans and on Zelensky to make a deal from that angle.

00:31:09.000 Meanwhile, they're leveraging their own aggression with regard to Ukraine against the Americans.

00:31:14.000 They're saying, listen, if you guys go any further, if you ship a single MIG in here, who knows?

00:31:18.000 Who knows?

00:31:19.000 We might nuke something.

00:31:20.000 Who knows?

00:31:21.000 We might just level a city.

00:31:22.000 We might unleash a biological weapon.

00:31:23.000 Who knows?

00:31:25.000 So they're finding every leverage point they can because this is what Putin is good at. 0.94

00:31:28.000 Putin is a cancer and he is finding every vulnerability that the West has and he is using those vulnerabilities against the West.

00:31:37.000 So the normal solution to that is that the West should be less vulnerable. 0.95

00:31:40.000 That is the solution.

00:31:41.000 So what would that mean?

00:31:42.000 I mean, one, opening up the production of oil and natural gas in the United States, such that we have more oil and natural gas to export to Europe to alleviate their energy problems and alleviate our own.

00:31:52.000 It would mean two, making sure that we are not dissuaded by Vladimir Putin's empty threats, and that we give the Ukrainians MIGs if they want MIGs. 0.74

00:31:59.000 Doesn't have to be a no-fly zone, doesn't mean we have to fly our planes in there to take down Russian jets.

00:32:03.000 It does mean that we should be giving the Ukrainians more than is necessary in order to defend themselves if we wish them not to surrender all of these things, including future membership in the EU or NATO, over to the Russians and essentially align their foreign policy with Russia.

00:32:15.000 Three, it would mean dropping this Iran deal and killing it outright and saying, listen, Iran obviously has ill intent. 0.72

00:32:21.000 Iran is literally firing missiles at us while negotiating with us and using the Russians as a proxy. 0.97

00:32:27.000 And the Russians, meanwhile, are attempting to exploit our own idiocy with regard to this Iran deal to evade the sanctions. 0.91

00:32:35.000 It means doing all of those things. 0.97

00:32:36.000 Are we going to do any of those things?

00:32:37.000 Of course we're not going to do any of those things.

00:32:39.000 We're going to continue to be weak.

00:32:41.000 So why wouldn't Vladimir Putin continue to be strong?

00:32:43.000 After all, he's so deep in this point.

00:32:45.000 I don't know what people in the West think the endgame is here for Putin.

00:32:49.000 Do they really think he's just going to give up and go home?

00:32:52.000 He's so deep in at this point.

00:32:53.000 Do they really think that Vladimir Putin, who is stationed around Kiev right now and shelling Kiev again, do they really think that he's just going to give up and say, all right, you know what?

00:33:01.000 You win.

00:33:02.000 I'm done now.

00:33:03.000 Catch you later.

00:33:04.000 That's not going to happen.

00:33:06.000 It's not going to happen.

00:33:09.000 The most likely scenario, by the way, if Putin completely stalls out here, is he brings Belarus into the war from the north. 0.74

00:33:13.000 They have a bunch of troops as well.

00:33:17.000 Now, the United States is lying, right?

00:33:19.000 The United States right now, they're saying, according to the Wall Street Journal, that they will not negotiate exemptions to the Ukraine-related sanctions on Russia in order to save that 2015 Iran nuclear deal, and could try to strike a separate accord, excluding Moscow.

00:33:33.000 But that seems extraordinarily unlikely.

00:33:36.000 I think that that is very unlikely.

00:33:37.000 I think the fact is the United States will do exactly what they did under Barack Obama and the administration will basically say we would never allow them to have cash.

00:33:44.000 And then in the dead of night you see the pallets of cash go in.

00:33:47.000 So they would secretly sign some sort of deal that sort of quasi excludes certain economic aspects of Russia's economy.

00:33:55.000 Or an overall deal gets signed with Zelensky in Ukraine and Iran in Iran and everybody is hunky-dory and Putin gets most of what he wants.

00:34:03.000 A U.S. 0.66

00:34:03.000 official said, I don't see the scope for going beyond what is within the confines of the JCPOA. 0.66

00:34:07.000 I think it's pretty safe to say there is no room for making exemptions beyond those.

00:34:12.000 The Iranian attack is likely to create more regional resistance to American efforts to strike a new nuclear containment deal with Iran.

00:34:18.000 American, Iraqi, and other world leaders condemned Sunday's missile strike as a destabilizing act as the U.S.

00:34:23.000 military stepped up its defenses and U.S.

00:34:25.000 officials considered how to respond.

00:34:29.000 But again, do I trust that the Biden administration will not cave on this?

00:34:32.000 Why would I?

00:34:32.000 I mean, seriously, why would I?

00:34:34.000 And you know who else doesn't trust that the United States isn't going to cave on this?

00:34:37.000 China.

00:34:38.000 We'll get to China in all of this because China's just licking its chops over here. 0.96

00:34:41.000 China's just sitting over here. 0.98

00:34:42.000 They're gobbling up Russian assets like nobody's business. 1.00

00:34:44.000 They're looking directly at Taiwan.

00:34:46.000 They're watching what the world does here.

00:34:48.000 And let us say they are not particularly intimidated by what they have seen thus far.

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00:40:39.000 All right, so meanwhile, China is just sitting over here and they are thinking to themselves, hey, maybe we can play broker.

00:40:51.000 Maybe in the same way that Russia is attempting to use its leverage in order to create a deal with Iran and the United States that allows them to evade the sanctions and continue to put pressure on the Americans.

00:41:00.000 China is now backing up Russia.

00:41:02.000 So China is sitting over here and they are basically Backing Russia's play, and then proclaiming that they are in fact an honest broker.

00:41:10.000 According to the Washington Post, Russia has turned to China for military equipment and aid in the weeks since it began its invasion of Ukraine.

00:41:16.000 According to U.S.

00:41:16.000 officials familiar with the matter, they told this to the Washington Post.

00:41:20.000 The officials, who spoke on a condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject, did not describe what kind of weaponry had been requested.

00:41:26.000 Or whether they know how China responded.

00:41:28.000 White House National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan told CNN the administration was communicating directly, privately to Beijing that there will absolutely be consequences for any Chinese efforts to assist Russia in evading sanctions.

00:41:38.000 And again, China's like, sure, yeah, I believe you.

00:41:43.000 Ukrainian officials said negotiations with Russia will continue on Monday.

00:41:46.000 Presidential advisor Mikhailo Podolyak said Sunday Russia is starting to talk constructively and predicted some concrete results in a matter of days.

00:41:54.000 Again, because the concrete results are likely to be Ukraine giving Russia most of what they want.

00:41:58.000 Because after all, this can't carry on forever if you are Ukraine. 1.00

00:42:03.000 Russia brought the fighting closer to members of the NATO alliance, as we mentioned, by striking that military facility that is close to Poland.

00:42:10.000 But meanwhile, you have the Chinese who are like, what if we broker a deal? 1.00

00:42:14.000 Just trust us.

00:42:15.000 So they're now saying that the United States and the West should do with Putin in Ukraine what Putin did with Assad in Syria.

00:42:24.000 What if you trust us to broker it?

00:42:25.000 Just hand it off to us.

00:42:26.000 We'll take care of it. 0.88

00:42:27.000 It'll all be fine, says the Chinese communist tyranny. 0.99

00:42:31.000 There's a piece in the New York Times by Wang Huiyou.

00:42:35.000 And Wang Huiyou is the founder and president of the Center for China and Globalization, a non-governmental think tank based in Beijing.

00:42:40.000 Okay, so let me just make something clear.

00:42:41.000 There's no such thing as a non-governmental think tank based in Beijing.

00:42:44.000 Okay, anything that is based in Beijing is run by the Chinese government or at least approved by the Chinese government.

00:42:49.000 You don't see a lot of liberal-minded anti-Chinese think tanks in the middle of Beijing.

00:42:54.000 So he has an entire piece in the New York Times talking about how China should really broker something.

00:42:59.000 He says, quote, China has a significant economic interest in a quick resolution to the Russian-Ukrainian war.

00:43:05.000 China enjoys strong ties with Russia and Ukraine and is both countries' largest single trading partner, though each trades more with the EU bloc than with China.

00:43:12.000 Russia and Ukraine are crucial components of the Belt and Road infrastructure program, as well as conduits for China's trade with Europe.

00:43:18.000 China-Europe rail transports have experienced a hundredfold increase since the beginning of the 2010s.

00:43:23.000 China is also uniquely positioned to act as a neutral mediator between a Western-supported Ukraine and Russia.

00:43:30.000 Yes, Beijing and Moscow have a strong and growing relationship.

00:43:33.000 China's demand for resources Russia has in abundance, food and energy, as well as a mutual dissatisfaction with the current state of the U.S.-led world order, have increasingly drawn the two countries together.

00:43:42.000 This alliance was cemented when Putin and Xi met last month and issued a joint statement underscoring their deep ties and reaffirming a partnership with no forbidden zones.

00:43:51.000 Which, by the way, sounds like a bad pornography movie.

00:44:00.000 Russia may possess a mighty military, but its economy is in long-term structural decline, with a GDP not much larger than that of Spain.

00:44:06.000 For all the talk of ties with Moscow, it's worth remembering China's economic interests with Russia are dwarfed by those it shares with the West.

00:44:12.000 Even if China isn't joining the sanctions, it's possible Chinese businesses and banks will decrease involvement with Russia to avoid a backlash in other more important markets.

00:44:20.000 No, not really.

00:44:21.000 But he, this guy is just maintaining, you know, China wants this conflict and just trust us. 0.81

00:44:25.000 Just trust us.

00:44:27.000 At a time when China faces increasing global criticism for its human rights violations, mediating an end to this conflict could help improve the country's standing with the West.

00:44:35.000 Beijing has long striven to convince political and business elites in Europe and America the rise of China does not present a threat.

00:44:41.000 Support for Russian aggression, even perceived support, threatens to undermine that assertion.

00:44:47.000 What form could mediation take?

00:44:48.000 Any serious resolution would have to involve the U.S.

00:44:50.000 and the EU as key actors.

00:44:52.000 Beijing could help to broker an immediate ceasefire as a prelude to talks among Russia, Ukraine, the United States, EU, and China.

00:44:58.000 Beijing's goal would be to find a solution that gives Putin sufficient security assurances that can be presented as a win to his domestic audience while protecting Ukraine's core sovereignty and NATO's open-door policy.

00:45:08.000 Finding a landing zone for such an agreement is challenging, but not impossible.

00:45:12.000 Securing a multilateral resolution to the crisis in Ukraine, says this founder and president of the Center for China and Globalization based in Beijing.

00:45:20.000 It says, by the way, he advises the Chinese government in that capacity.

00:45:23.000 So this is a government cutout.

00:45:24.000 So securing a multilateral resolution to the crisis in Ukraine will be a tough and risky challenge, but there is no country better placed to do so than China.

00:45:32.000 So what is the Biden administration going to do with all of this talk of China getting involved?

00:45:38.000 Apparently, Sullivan, Jake Sullivan, the NSA, and officials from the National Security Council and State Department will be in Rome, where Jake Sullivan will meet with Chinese Communist Politburo member and Director of the Office of Foreign Affairs Commission, Yang Jiechi, to discuss the impact of Russia's war against Ukraine on regional and global security.

00:45:57.000 So it looks very much as though the Biden administration is open to the possibility that China should broker an end to this.

00:46:04.000 So China is the big winner, is how this may come out.

00:46:08.000 Meanwhile, the State Department is trying to whistle past the graveyard right here. 0.90

00:46:12.000 So Wendy Sherman, again on national television, making a fool of herself.

00:46:15.000 She says yesterday, you know, people keep saying that Russia and China, you know, that their relationship has strengthened, but we don't, we don't really know that their relationship has strengthened in all of this.

00:46:24.000 Yeah, I mean, maybe, maybe not.

00:46:26.000 Maybe, maybe they're good.

00:46:28.000 Here she is.

00:46:30.000 Quickly, has the Russia-China relationship suffered or strengthened as a result of this invasion?

00:46:36.000 I think that's an open question, yet, Brett, to be perfectly honest, we saw Russia and China come closer together, certainly before the Olympics, putting out a long manifesto about their partnership and how they were going to move forward together.

00:46:51.000 And at the same time, we've seen China pretty uncomfortable with an invasion of a sovereign country.

00:46:59.000 By the way, that's called buying Chinese propaganda.

00:47:02.000 So what China is saying is, we're really on the West side on Ukraine, because after all, we would hate it if a sovereign country were invaded.

00:47:08.000 Because like, if you guys interfered with Taiwan, that's part of sovereign China.

00:47:12.000 This is their actual case.

00:47:14.000 Meanwhile, Wendy Sherman's like, yeah, China's very, very against invading sovereign country.

00:47:18.000 Also, by the way, we don't think that they should take Taiwan.

00:47:20.000 Good luck to Wendy Sherman on this one. 1.00

00:47:23.000 We understand and support a one-China policy. 0.98

00:47:27.000 But we don't believe that China, PRC, ought to take Taiwan by force.

00:47:34.000 And we will do everything we can to deter that effort by the PRC.

00:47:39.000 Oh really?

00:47:42.000 Will you then?

00:47:43.000 Will you then?

00:47:43.000 Or are you just going to have China try to broker an end to this Russian conflict?

00:47:46.000 All the people who are in positions of power are untrustworthy when it comes to how this conflict ends, which is why it probably ends really, really badly.

00:47:54.000 The likelihood that this ends with Vladimir Putin going down in flames, that he's cooed out, or that he ends up having to fight a guerrilla war for 10 to 20 years, that the West doesn't cave?

00:48:03.000 The probability of that is very low, which is why, again, all of America's enemies are putting pressure on every leverage point they have, every single leverage point.

00:48:11.000 It's a test of the West.

00:48:12.000 At the beginning, the West was not failing.

00:48:14.000 They failed in their deterrence.

00:48:16.000 Then they didn't fail in their response.

00:48:17.000 And now it's starting to look like that unified front that pushes back against Russian predation, and pushes back against Iran, and pushes back against China backing Russia.

00:48:27.000 It seems like that unified front may have lasted for about three weeks or so.

00:48:32.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here later today with an additional hour of content.

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Putin’s Escalation Continues | Ep. 1452

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