The Ben Shapiro Show - Race and Religion in American Politics | Vince Everett Ellison

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00:00:09.000 Until we teach our children that we have to jettison this silly, ignorant ideology, that I can only feel good about myself. 0.76

00:00:19.000 If I'm loved by white America, and I can only be protected or affirmed if I'm protected and affirmed by my government, we will never go any further. 0.96

00:00:28.000 If we can ever get that sizable chunk, about 15% of the black vote, away from the Democratic Party, we'll take them down forever. 1.00

00:00:36.000 And I believe that black men are not going to go back to Ms. 1.00

00:00:39.000 Harris. Vince Everett Ellison is a political commentator, author, and documentarian on the intersection of American politics, race, and religion.

00:00:46.000 Born on a cotton plantation in Haywood County, Tennessee, Ellison admired how his parents lifted him and his six siblings out of poverty through hard work and their Christian faith.

00:00:54.000 He graduated from Memphis State University and worked at a maximum security prison before entering the non-profit arena as part of the National Center for Public Policy Research's Project 21 Black Leadership Network.

00:01:05.000 In his popular book, The Iron Triangle, Ellison draws upon his life experiences to connect the dots between black preachers, civic organizers, and the Democratic politicians who benefit from promoting detrimental policies to black Americans.

00:01:16.000 His latest book, The End of Tolerance, criticizes the left's elevation of tolerance as the ultimate American virtue.

00:01:21.000 In today's episode, we discuss the Democrats' most depraved policies, Donald Trump's appeal to black voters, and Ellison's reaction to the Chicago DNC. We also explore why progressive politics thrive on arrogance and how humility can be found in religious faith.

00:01:33.000 As we navigate one of the most contentious election seasons of our lifetime, you won't want to miss Vince Everett Ellison's analysis of Democratic Party politics.

00:01:40.000 to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.

00:01:45.000 And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.

00:01:49.000 I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.

00:01:52.000 Really appreciate it. Man, it is my pleasure.

00:01:54.000 I've been watching you for years, and I am a fan.

00:01:56.000 Hey, thank you so much. So why don't we start with, obviously, the hot topic.

00:01:59.000 It's the 2024 election cycle.

00:02:01.000 The Democrats offed their old candidate, Joe Biden.

00:02:04.000 They have replaced him with their brand new, joyous, wondrous, incredible, light-bringer candidate, Kamala Harris, running against Donald Trump.

00:02:06.000 And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.

00:02:13.000 What do you make of Kamala Harris the candidate? 0.61

00:02:17.000 Kamala Harris has been an opportunist a whole life.

00:02:20.000 You know, she was Willie Brown's side piece when she was in San Francisco, running around with Montel Williams, and she was going to get into San Francisco politics.

00:02:21.000 Everyone has rights. Women have rights. 1.00

00:02:23.000 Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.

00:02:32.000 And then after that, she played Indian to get the Indian vote. 0.67

00:02:35.000 Then she made sure that she married a man that obviously had money to make sure that she could get the Jewish vote. 1.00

00:02:44.000 And then after that, she played black to get the black vote. 1.00

00:02:46.000 So Kamala Harris would do whatever she needs to do to get power. 1.00

00:02:49.000 I always knew that once she became vice president that Joe Biden needed to watch his back because she was going to stand a minute sooner or later.

00:02:56.000 I mean, I watched him when she ran in the primary and she didn't make it to Iowa, but she got a plan.

00:03:03.000 So Kamala got Joe Biden to get 100 Black men to write him a letter telling him that if he did not choose a Black woman for his vice presidency, they were going to deep-six his campaign. 0.85

00:03:16.000 So she got P. Diddy, Akon, a bunch of thugs and rappers and greasy preachers to write him a letter.

00:03:26.000 And Joe Biden capitulated. 0.83

00:03:28.000 And then Kamala Harris went up to Joe Biden and because Joe had dementia, he didn't know any better, told him that she was black. 0.99

00:03:34.000 Joe bought it. And she slid into a slot designed for a black woman. 1.00

00:03:39.000 So she played the game for a while.

00:03:42.000 to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.

00:03:47.000 And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.

00:03:52.000 I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.

00:04:09.000 And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.

00:04:12.000 And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.

00:04:16.000 I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.

00:04:23.000 Everyone has rights. Women have rights. 1.00

00:04:33.000 And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.

00:04:47.000 Everyone has rights. Women have rights. 1.00

00:04:50.000 Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.

00:04:58.000 And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.

00:05:02.000 I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.

00:05:19.000 And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.

00:05:25.000 I mean, I'm used to this question being asked about Jews.

00:05:27.000 And my usual answer is, well, because most Jews are not religious, right? 1.00

00:05:30.000 Judaism is a religion. It's not just an ethnicity.

00:05:32.000 And so you're talking, when it comes to Jews, about a very largely secular, atheistic population that has high income and lives in blue areas.

00:05:33.000 Everyone has rights. Women have rights. 1.00

00:05:36.000 Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.

00:05:39.000 You just described kind of a typical Democratic voter.

00:05:41.000 When it comes to black voters, however, this has been sort of a puzzle for a lot of Republican politicos.

00:05:46.000 Why is it That the black vote goes so heavy for Democrats these days, despite the failure of Democrats in every major American city in the country.

00:05:53.000 It's called into the distance of Stockholm Syndrome.

00:05:55.000 You have to take it all the way back to slavery and to the Jim Crow era.

00:05:59.000 I was born on a cotton plantation in Hayward County, Tennessee.

00:06:02.000 My father was a sharecropper.

00:06:04.000 So I've lived a real black life.

00:06:06.000 He bought us out of poverty in the 1970s by working in the insurance industry.

00:06:11.000 And we started a gospel singing group.

00:06:12.000 And we went around into black churches and whatnot, singing to black churches all over the South.

00:06:17.000 I went to colleges, University of Memphis.

00:06:18.000 And then after college, I started working in a prison.

00:06:21.000 And in that prison, I got a really, really serious education.

00:06:24.000 It was in the 90s when the Clinton-Biden crime bill was locking up black men all over America.

00:06:29.000 And I started asking the black intelligentsia.

00:06:32.000 I said, man, why are all these young black men being locked up?

00:06:34.000 And of course, I got the same old refrain. 1.00

00:06:36.000 Rich, white, evil Republicans hate black people, and they just want to see them locked up. 1.00

00:06:41.000 Well, I was naive. And I said, OK, really? 1.00

00:06:43.000 So I quit my job.

00:06:45.000 I started a nonprofit. I went into the black community, and when I got into the ghettos, I saw something very, very interesting.

00:06:51.000 I saw no evil rich white Republicans anywhere. 0.84

00:06:53.000 You see a unicorn or a leprechaun before you saw one. 0.95

00:06:56.000 But what I did see were a lot of black Democrats making a lot of money off of the chaos. 0.97

00:07:01.000 And I wrote my first book about these black Democrats, and I called them the Iron Triangle. 0.98

00:07:06.000 They were most black preachers, most black politicians, and most black civil rights workers.

00:07:12.000 Their job was to be conduits between rich white liberals and the poor Black community, and their job was to make sure that these Black people voted for the Democratic Party by hook or by crook. 0.95

00:07:23.000 It was a play on the old plantation system, where the House Negroes were in charge of the field hands, and they were conduits between the master in the big house and the field hands in the field. 0.92

00:07:33.000 So after the Civil War, of course, we had this little period called Reconstruction.

00:07:37.000 For a little while, Black people voted for The Republican Party.

00:07:43.000 But by the election of 1876, the Children Hayes election, the whole South went Democrat.

00:07:50.000 Everything went red. 0.97

00:07:52.000 They had the Mississippi and the South Carolina plan that talked about intimidating Black people, paying Black people, killing Black people, and buying the Black vote. 0.97

00:08:04.000 And the Black slaves who had previously voted Republican somehow or another reverted back to the Democratic Party in the election of 1876. 0.91

00:08:12.000 They made the compromise, as you know.

00:08:15.000 The Republican Hays took the South when South Carolina decided they would give him their Electoral College votes if he pulled the Union troops out of the South.

00:08:25.000 And after that, the Democratic Party went gangbusters on the Black community. 0.60

00:08:30.000 Beatings, killings, You name it. 0.98

00:08:34.000 They did it. To become a Republican was a pejorative in the Black community. 0.99

00:08:39.000 You would get killed for it. 0.99

00:08:41.000 If your father or your mother even heard that you were a Republican, they would beat the hell out of you themselves. 0.99

00:08:47.000 So it got to a point where Stockholm Syndrome and cognitive dissonance took place in the Black community. 0.60

00:08:53.000 It became an explanation, not a condemnation.

00:08:56.000 It's just how it was. And after that time, they put their black placekeepers in charge, the black preacher, the black politician, and the black civil rights workers, and told them, your job is to keep the black people exactly where they're supposed to be. 0.90

00:09:09.000 Lie to them, rob them, use social pressure, do whatever you need to do. 0.97

00:09:13.000 And it's been that way ever since.

00:09:15.000 So when my grandfather, Walter Clark, got the right to vote in 1960, even though Richard Nixon and Eisenhower And made it possible through the 1957 Civil Rights Act and the 1960 Civil Rights Act.

00:09:28.000 When he voted, his first vote was for the Democratic Party.

00:09:32.000 Even though the Democratic Party and the Ku Klux Klan had put him off the cotton plantation he was living on, when he registered to vote, he still voted for them. 0.74

00:09:42.000 Stockholm Syndrome is so powerful.

00:09:44.000 You remember Patty Hearst.

00:09:46.000 You take on the characteristics of your oppressor.

00:09:49.000 And the Democratic Party was such a brutal master. 0.85

00:09:53.000 Black people were so isolated that even when they got the right to vote, they voted for their master. 0.99

00:09:58.000 The Civil Rights Movement showed it.

00:10:01.000 We weren't fighting to separate from white Democrats and the Ku Klux Klan.

00:10:07.000 Martin Luther King and his boys were fighting to integrate with them.

00:10:11.000 We were the first race of people in the history of the world to fight to integrate with our former masters.

00:10:17.000 Even the Jewish people after the Holocaust said, we're getting the hell out of Germany.

00:10:21.000 We don't want to integrate with these Nazis. 0.98

00:10:23.000 It would have been the equivalent of after the Holocaust, the Jewish people in Germany said, well, now we want to integrate with the Nazis and let them educate our children. 0.77

00:10:32.000 It was insanity!

00:10:34.000 And now we see what's going on. 1.00

00:10:36.000 Black people are so beaten down. 1.00

00:10:38.000 They're so controlled. 1.00

00:10:40.000 to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.

00:10:45.000 And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.

00:10:49.000 I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.

00:11:06.000 And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.

00:11:06.000 There are different types of black churches, obviously.

00:11:08.000 But let's go through each one of those pieces and tell me about why you think they've been doing what they've been doing.

00:11:14.000 Where are the interests lie?

00:11:15.000 Well, the black preacher's interest lies in money. 0.96

00:11:19.000 The Christianity of the South, before the Civil War, antebellum South, was an apostate Christianity. 0.71

00:11:20.000 Everyone has rights. Women have rights. 1.00

00:11:23.000 Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.

00:11:28.000 It was a Christianity based on racism. 0.97

00:11:30.000 Based on hypocrisy. 0.99

00:11:32.000 You know, there's a Christianity that said that Jesus Christ believed that black people should be slaves. 1.00

00:11:36.000 Believed that you could kill a woman and sell your offspring on an auction block. 0.99

00:11:41.000 There was nothing wrong with it. That you could oppress people. 0.99

00:11:43.000 That you could commit murder.

00:11:46.000 It was a lie. This Christianity was passed on to the black slave. 1.00

00:11:50.000 And he kept it. And one of the things that the black slave believed, I remember as a boy being growing up in the South, and I hear my black preacher preach to us about the curse of Ham. 0.97

00:12:00.000 That we were black because we were cursed, and that we were supposed to be slaves under the tuile of the white man. 0.87

00:12:06.000 And this was preached, and the southern black churches were subjected to it. 0.97

00:12:12.000 And the black preacher, in many respects, was chosen by the white establishment, and he was put in place by them, and he was told, your job, and you will keep your money as long as you keep these black people under us. 0.96

00:12:25.000 And that became The whole concept of the black clergy down south for generations.

00:12:32.000 Then you have the black civil rights workers. 0.56

00:12:36.000 As you know, the NAACP was started by eight white people and one black person who was W.B. Du Bois, and he was a communist.

00:12:44.000 Their job, they had a vested interest in keeping black people under control, especially for when they did vote, to vote for the Democratic Party and vote for all of these crazy liberal causes. 0.98

00:12:55.000 And they expanded into the big six, you know, the core, Urban League, all of these guys. 0.74

00:13:00.000 And they were all controlled by rich white liberals also. 0.54

00:13:02.000 And then, of course, out of that came the black politician. 0.75

00:13:06.000 And when he became a Democrat, he became a company man.

00:13:09.000 His job was to make sure that he made black people vote for the Democratic Party.

00:13:12.000 Because ever since slavery, the Democratic Party could only survive with the support of the Black community. 0.99

00:13:20.000 Whether it be slavery, whether it was their labor, whether it was just the fact that you made white supremacy possible to make me feel good about myself.

00:13:29.000 They needed Black people either for exploitation or for entertainment. 1.00

00:13:34.000 And they still use us for that. 0.94

00:13:36.000 We are a science project to them.

00:13:40.000 They know us better than we know ourselves.

00:13:42.000 They manipulate us better than we don't even know that we're being manipulated.

00:13:45.000 So the Iron Triangle, my first book, blew the lid off of this.

00:13:50.000 And the way we change it, one of the reasons I love school choice so much is that it gives you an opportunity to pull these children out of these government schools who also expand this ideology in the Black community. 0.91

00:14:01.000 Government control, liberalism, statism.

00:14:05.000 If we can get them back to The community concepts of free markets, of their basic religion, of understanding competition, understanding unalienable rights, understanding that our rights come from God, not from government. That the whole concept of America is based upon what John Locke talked about, the unalienable rights that we have.

00:14:30.000 Rights that are irrevocable, non-transferable, and unsellable, that government cannot touch.

00:14:36.000 That you do not go ask government for your unalienable rights.

00:14:39.000 You defy government to come and take them.

00:14:42.000 And this is why I have such a difficult time with Martin Luther King Jr.

00:14:44.000 and the Civil Rights Movement. They told Black America that you have to go to government for your rights.

00:14:50.000 You have to go to government for protection.

00:14:52.000 Everything he said was an anathema, an anathema to what we are supposed to believe as free Americans. 0.95

00:14:59.000 And until we teach our children that we have to jettison This silly, ignorant ideology that I can only feel good about myself if I'm loved by white America and I can only be protected or affirmed if I'm protected and affirmed by my government. 0.96

00:15:18.000 We will never go any further. 0.92

00:15:19.000 So one of the ways we do it is by what you're doing now.

00:15:22.000 You giving somebody like me a platform to talk about these things.

00:15:25.000 I have my podcast, The Best Ever The Ellison Show on YouTube, Rumble and X, that people can log on to and they can watch that.

00:15:32.000 But also...

00:15:34.000 The fact that if we can ever get that sizable chunk, about 15% of the Black vote, away from the Democratic Party, we'll take them down forever. 0.99

00:15:43.000 And I believe that Black men are not going to go back to Ms. 1.00

00:15:46.000 Harris. I think that as they see that she locked up more Black men in California than Robert E. Lee and Jeff Davis combined, that she is an apostate, that she believes that you should castrate little boys and call them little girls. 0.96

00:16:02.000 Give double mastectomies to little girls and call them little boys. 0.99

00:16:05.000 That she believes in nine-month abortion.

00:16:07.000 That she believes in taking away your right to keep and bear arms.

00:16:10.000 And that she believes in allowing these people to come in and just infiltrate your neighborhoods, take away your space, take away your schools, take away making rents go high, taking jobs away. 0.92

00:16:24.000 As this is highlighted, you'll start seeing more and more black men turn away from her, and that's going to be Hercules' heel. 0.98

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00:17:08.000 to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.

00:17:13.000 And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.

00:17:17.000 I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.

00:17:34.000 And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.

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00:17:46.000 One of the things that you mentioned there that's really fascinating, and it's true statistically, is you are seeing a divergence between how black women vote and how black men vote.

00:17:48.000 Everyone has rights. Women have rights. 1.00

00:17:51.000 Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.

00:17:53.000 And that's mirrored across the political spectrum, actually.

00:17:55.000 You are seeing a major divergence now between how women, not married women, married women tend to vote like married men, which tends to be Republican, but single women and single men are voting very differently.

00:18:05.000 And that is particularly true in the black community, where black women are voting in extraordinary numbers for Democrats, and black men are voting a little bit less so for Democrats.

00:18:14.000 Why do you think that gender gap is now emerging?

00:18:17.000 Yeah, you have a lot of black men who are alpha males. 0.98

00:18:20.000 And, you know, you've seen the culture. 1.00

00:18:22.000 They walk around, they swaggering, and they're talking trash. 0.99

00:18:25.000 They talk about how many junkers they had shot and how many women they got. 1.00

00:18:28.000 But there's an alpha maleness in these men where in the black community, the worst thing you could call somebody is effeminate or gay. 0.94

00:18:38.000 And they have found through social media, through shows like yours and shows like mine, that the Democratic Party supports all of this. 0.93

00:18:47.000 They see that the Democratic Party is about destroying the family, that they have set up a system that is basically trying to castrate men.

00:18:55.000 They see that they are using the public educational system to sexualize their children.

00:18:59.000 They now understand about Drag Queen Story Hour, that they have set up a public educational system that sets their sons in front of men. 1.00

00:19:07.000 And shake their asses in their son's faces. 0.95

00:19:10.000 They see that the Democratic Party set up a system called Obamacare, where if your son wants to be transitioned, they'll pay for it. 0.99

00:19:17.000 You see Tim Walz up in the state of Minnesota.

00:19:19.000 That's made his state a sanctuary state.

00:19:21.000 That if your child wants a sex chain operation, that if they can get up to Minnesota, he'll give them protection and he'll pay for it.

00:19:27.000 They're seeing that the Democratic Party wants to take away your right.

00:19:31.000 To pray to your God.

00:19:32.000 To be hooked up to your religion.

00:19:34.000 And we know that John Adams said that this Constitution is reserved for religious and immoral people.

00:19:39.000 It's wholly inadequate for any other.

00:19:41.000 They see that the Democratic Party is an evil institution.

00:19:45.000 It's been the evilest institution in the history of the world for the longest period of time.

00:19:50.000 200 years of murder.

00:19:53.000 The party of slavery from 1800 to 1860.

00:19:56.000 The party of the Confederacy from 1800 to 1865.

00:19:59.000 The party of Jim Crow from 1865 to 1965. 0.97

00:20:03.000 Now the party of transgenderism, abortion to the ninth month, open borders, disarmed American citizens, atheism, or Kabbalah, liars, psychopaths, and anti-Christian bigots. 0.96

00:20:16.000 And the message has gotten out. 0.98

00:20:18.000 They can't hide it any longer.

00:20:19.000 They're walking around with men with skirts and dresses on, men that talk about, you know, it's great to transition and to castrate yourself.

00:20:29.000 They're hearing it, and they're seeing it, and they're responding to it. 0.66

00:20:34.000 And the more they hear it, the more black men will leave that party.

00:20:38.000 So you've obviously been a very vocal supporter of President Trump.

00:20:41.000 You've called him the first black president, actually, not Barack Obama.

00:20:45.000 So maybe you can explain that.

00:20:47.000 Where are you coming from when you say something like that?

00:20:49.000 Obviously meant to provoke, but what do you mean by that?

00:20:51.000 Well, President Trump, well, for the last 200 years, The Democratic Party, not the Republican Party, not the Labor Party, not the Know-Nothings or the Whigs. 0.60

00:21:02.000 The Democratic Party has been the party that has locked up like men, put charges on them, hung them from trees, locked them up for just trumped up reasons.

00:21:17.000 We saw the civil rights movement, how it was assassinated because of what the Democratic Party was doing to black men down south.

00:21:24.000 We've seen the pictures of the lynchings.

00:21:26.000 We've heard the stories of people planting evidence and locking these men up for no reason whatsoever.

00:21:31.000 We saw the movie Hurricane with Denzel Washington, and there are just numerous, numerous stories of how black men have been set up by the Democratic Party to spend years and years in prison on charges that were trumped up, and they were lies.

00:21:44.000 Donald Trump has experienced that.

00:21:46.000 He is the first American president to experience such a thing, to experience this type of persecution.

00:21:53.000 He understands now how it feels to be prosecuted by the Democratic Party.

00:21:58.000 Also, Black men have dealt with violence on a tremendous level, state violence, shootings, murders, beatings, incarcerations.

00:22:08.000 Donald Trump was shot in front of the world. 0.98

00:22:12.000 Everybody saw it. 0.97

00:22:14.000 They tried to kill him.

00:22:15.000 So when you come down to the Black experience, within the last four or five years, Donald Trump has experienced it on a level that no other president has ever experienced it.

00:22:27.000 And as you and I know, being Black or being ethnic has nothing to do with the color of one skin.

00:22:33.000 It has to do with your life experiences.

00:22:35.000 It has to do with the things you believe.

00:22:37.000 It has to do with your mores and your values.

00:22:39.000 And Donald Trump seems to me The Obamas made their appearance.

00:22:51.000 This is on night two of the Democratic National Convention.

00:22:54.000 And Michelle Obama spoke.

00:22:55.000 And her speech, I thought, was truly egregious.

00:22:58.000 I thought it was actually the most egregious speech at the convention.

00:23:00.000 It was significantly worse than Barack Obama. 0.99

00:23:01.000 Barack Obama is a grifter and he's a con man, but he's really good at it. 1.00

00:23:06.000 to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts. 0.99

00:23:11.000 And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.

00:23:15.000 I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.

00:23:32.000 And I'm really not trying to score slam dunks and say, oh, well, I got you in my trap. I'm trying to get people to think about a totally different way of thinking in the sense that you could see so much of the talk is, well, everyone should vote.

00:23:39.000 What did you make of that particular narrative?

00:23:41.000 Because the hypocrisy is so glaring, but it seems to be ignored by a huge percentage of America and particularly in the black community. 0.94

00:23:46.000 Everyone has rights. Women have rights. 1.00

00:23:48.000 These people are elitist.

00:23:49.000 Everybody has these unexamined assumptions about how the world is and how it should be.

00:23:50.000 They believe that they can do it and you can't.

00:23:53.000 They are an affront to God as far as I'm concerned because this is a question they can never answer for me.

00:24:00.000 As a Christian, Christians believe in the power and absolute power of Jesus Christ.

00:24:07.000 They believe it. And as I asked them, I said, how can you be a victim in an era of Jesus Christ?

00:24:17.000 Explain that to me. How can you say, and that's why I tell people I cannot be a victim.

00:24:23.000 They say, why? Because I'm an era of Jesus Christ and I'm a child of God.

00:24:25.000 I cannot be a victim. I cannot be oppressed for that same reason.

00:24:28.000 You know, they say that people have white privilege.

00:24:31.000 I said, well, yeah, it is a privilege to be white, but it's also a privilege to be black.

00:24:35.000 It's a privilege to be an American.

00:24:37.000 It's a privilege to be Jewish. It's a privilege to be Hispanic.

00:24:40.000 So, yeah, there is white privilege, but also it's a privilege to be black.

00:24:44.000 But I also was born—they talk about what white people were born with privilege.

00:24:47.000 Well, I was also born with privilege.

00:24:48.000 I was born with two great parents.

00:24:50.000 I was born a Christian.

00:24:53.000 I was born with a lot of love.

00:24:56.000 And I was born in the greatest country in the world, the United States of America.

00:24:59.000 Hell, I won the lottery, man.

00:25:00.000 So it's always where you look.

00:25:02.000 But when you look at people who are leaders, when you look at people thinking they're better than you, they're going to always look at you and say, you are a victim.

00:25:10.000 They're going to always look at you.

00:25:12.000 And by that, they are saying, I am better than you.

00:25:16.000 You can't save yourself.

00:25:19.000 I can save you.

00:25:20.000 They have put themselves in a position of God.

00:25:23.000 I am the God that will ask you when you start coming down on yourself, are you a Christian? 1.00

00:25:29.000 Are you a Jew? Are you a Muslim?

00:25:32.000 And when they say yes, I say, well, what does your religion say?

00:25:37.000 And then when they explain to me, I say, well, that's what you do.

00:25:40.000 Why are you complaining to me?

00:25:43.000 You don't believe in your God.

00:25:45.000 You don't believe in what you've been taught.

00:25:49.000 Get back to your belief system.

00:25:51.000 And wherever you are in your life, God will give you peace.

00:25:55.000 That's what he gives you.

00:25:57.000 Whatever you are, whatever situation.

00:26:01.000 You know, we read our Bible, Paul and Silas were in jail.

00:26:05.000 What were they doing? They were singing. You go through our history and you'll find that what God promises us is whatever situation.

00:26:16.000 Whether we're rich, whether we're poor, whether we're middle class, what does he give us?

00:26:20.000 Peace. Happiness.

00:26:23.000 We're supposed to love one another. It's not about you loving me.

00:26:26.000 It's about me loving you.

00:26:29.000 They tell us that we're supposed to walk around and, you know, act racist white people and not judge us by the color of our skin.

00:26:36.000 And I'm saying, what's wrong with the color of my skin?

00:26:40.000 Nothing. Then let them judge me by it.

00:26:43.000 Go ahead. This also is black and what?

00:26:47.000 Judge me by it. Underestimate me at your peril.

00:26:50.000 My job is to love you.

00:26:52.000 My Bible tells me that I'm not to be concerned at all about how you view me.

00:26:57.000 I'm supposed to be concerned about how I view you.

00:26:59.000 But that doesn't give you the right to put your hands on me or make me your pinata.

00:27:05.000 Uh-uh, uh-uh. My job is to love you.

00:27:07.000 My job is if you need a good lawyer, I help you find one.

00:27:10.000 If you need a good job, I help you get one.

00:27:12.000 If you need a good education, I help you afford one or I give it to you myself.

00:27:16.000 If you need a good preacher, I help you find one.

00:27:19.000 Short of that, I will not live in condemnation for you.

00:27:22.000 And if you come and try to hurt me or mine, I got two things that'll get you off of me.

00:27:30.000 We'll get to more of Vince in a moment.

00:27:31.000 First, you know what's really keeping America up at night.

00:27:34.000 It's not just the radical left's latest attempts to destroy our values.

00:27:36.000 It's also uncomfortable betting.

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00:27:41.000 to his credit. These girls, they came, they shared their opinions, they shared their thoughts.

00:27:46.000 And it's like Isaac said, I do this for a living. I express my opinion for a living.

00:27:50.000 I think it was more casual for them. But I appreciate it coming on. I thought it was a good conversation. And it's good to flesh out the topics. I think they represent what everybody thinks about the issues. I think in that way, it was balanced. I represent kind of the opposite view.

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00:28:31.000 So you mentioned earlier your upbringing, the fact that your father was a sharecropper, and your family is wildly successful.

00:28:37.000 Obviously, you have a brother who is the CEO of Lowe's.

00:28:40.000 He was the former CEO of JCPenney.

00:28:42.000 You're very successful in your own right.

00:28:44.000 Maybe you can tell more about sort of your family progression, how you get there, because I think that One of the lies the Democratic Party tells is exactly what you're talking about.

00:28:53.000 They say to everyone, not just black men, but particularly black men, that you can't succeed in America, that the systemic obstacles are just too great.

00:29:01.000 It's something, again, Michelle Obama suggested at the convention.

00:29:04.000 She said that she doesn't believe in the affirmative action of inherited wealth, but she does believe in other forms of affirmative action, obviously.

00:29:10.000 There is no quote-unquote affirmative action to inherited wealth, only in the sense that, yeah, you're better off than if you hadn't inherited wealth.

00:29:16.000 But I know plenty of people who inherited wealth and blew it.

00:29:18.000 I know many, many more people who did not inherit wealth and now are extraordinarily wealthy.

00:29:23.000 The reality is that, as you say, we've all been born into the most privileged time in human history, in the greatest country in the history of the world.

00:29:31.000 And if you happen to be born into a good family, that is the ultimate privilege.

00:29:34.000 No one ever talks about that because that's a privilege you yourself can create in your everyday life.

00:29:38.000 But I think that your family story is really interesting and a really good sort of indicator for folks who believe that they can't make it, that, you know, actually with the right principles, you can.

00:29:47.000 You can. Ben, we were balled up in the Jim Crow South in Haywood County, Tennessee, in the Delta.

00:29:55.000 Haywood County is one of the poorest places in America.

00:29:59.000 We got a public school education, and we weren't these brainiacs in school that graduated in our classes.

00:30:07.000 We got through.

00:30:08.000 The one thing that our father taught us, it was that you control what happens to you.

00:30:16.000 You cannot control what happens to you, but you can control how you respond to it.

00:30:22.000 He taught us to never believe in racism.

00:30:25.000 He said that you have good and bad people.

00:30:27.000 Conor had nothing to do with it. So you'll find good black people, you'll find good white people, you'll find bad black people, you'll find bad white people. 0.97

00:30:33.000 What you do is you make sure that you get good people around you and keep good people around you.

00:30:39.000 But he also taught us, and it was strange that we did not grow up with an inferiority complex because of him and my mother.

00:30:47.000 My father and my mother were just two very attractive people.

00:30:50.000 They were very good looking people.

00:30:51.000 And they carried themselves in this regal way where they were always respected.

00:30:56.000 It was something that happened last year that really just blew my mind.

00:31:01.000 I was reading a piece in Stand Point magazine by Martin Luther King Jr.

00:31:05.000 written by David Garrow. And at the end of that piece, he talked about how the FBI, how thorough they were in their investigations, and he talked about how they took down the Klan.

00:31:14.000 And he said that the Tennessee Klan was the most violent Klan in the nation.

00:31:19.000 And then he said that the Grand Wizard of the Tennessee clan, his name was Doyle Ellington, lived in Brownsville, Tennessee, where I was living, where I was born.

00:31:28.000 He said, Doyle Ellington is still alive today, and he had a Facebook page.

00:31:32.000 I'd never heard of this guy.

00:31:34.000 So I called my father, and I said, Dad's 82 years old.

00:31:39.000 I said, Dad, do you know Doyle Ellington?

00:31:41.000 Dad said, yeah, I know him. Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

00:31:45.000 I said, Dad, why didn't you ever tell me about this guy?

00:31:48.000 He said he was no consequence.

00:31:50.000 I said, Daddy's a Grand Wizard of the Klan.

00:31:51.000 How was he no consequence? He said, well, I talked to Doyle about 60 years ago.

00:31:55.000 And I told him, if you ever touched me in my eye, I'll go with my brain down.

00:32:00.000 Never had no problems out of Doyle since.

00:32:02.000 Then he never even told me the guy existed.

00:32:06.000 This is how, of no consequence, the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan was the most violent Klan faction in America was to my father.

00:32:14.000 That's how he taught me.

00:32:16.000 You stand tall.

00:32:18.000 You work. You earn the respect of the men around you.

00:32:21.000 And if you don't get their respect, you get their fear.

00:32:25.000 But you don't walk around here with your back bent, begging to be accepted. 0.69

00:32:30.000 Muhammad Ali says the sick mind wants you somewhere where he's not wanted. 0.66

00:32:34.000 If they don't want you there, you don't go there.

00:32:36.000 If they're mean to you, you tell them, ah, that's cool, man.

00:32:39.000 You put your hands on me. I got something that's going to slice your throat, though. 0.99

00:32:43.000 And they will respect you.

00:32:45.000 And I've just naturally led my life like that my whole life.

00:32:48.000 Me and my brother, my sisters, my brother, all of us.

00:32:50.000 And we've been quite successful in America because there's a human element involved in that.

00:32:55.000 It's a human element that you will always respect men and women that carry themselves in a regal and respectful way.

00:33:03.000 Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. is talking about he was dreaming about a day that you'll be judged not by the color of your skin but by the content of your character.

00:33:09.000 You will be judged by the content of your character.

00:33:12.000 It is inescapable. 0.82

00:33:14.000 He's giving black people a fallback position where when their character is defective, they can say, oh, it was the color of my skin. 0.88

00:33:22.000 No, it wasn't. It was because you came in here late. 0.98

00:33:25.000 It's because you don't work. 1.00

00:33:27.000 It's because you come in here looking nasty and filthy. 1.00

00:33:29.000 You're disrespectful. You're a victim. 1.00

00:33:33.000 You always talk about you being oppressed.

00:33:36.000 You're a walking lawsuit.

00:33:38.000 And I can't have you around me.

00:33:40.000 So our father taught us, come in early.

00:33:44.000 Stay late. Be honest.

00:33:47.000 Do the job well.

00:33:48.000 And good people will recognize that.

00:33:50.000 And they will elevate you.

00:33:52.000 And those are the people that you want around you.

00:33:54.000 And it has never failed me.

00:33:56.000 You know, those lessons, I really think, can only be implemented by a father.

00:34:00.000 And this, of course, is one of the critical problems in the black community. 1.00

00:34:04.000 It's a problem across America, too, actually now, is the radical rise of single mother homes. 1.00

00:34:09.000 The fact that there are not enough men in the families The single motherhood rate in the black community is now upward of 70%.

00:34:16.000 In the white community, it is upward of 40%.

00:34:18.000 If you go back to 1960, which was clearly a time of more racial oppression, the single motherhood rate in the black community was 20%, and the white community was 5%.

00:34:28.000 So apparently the oppression went away, and the result of that was that fathers are no longer in the home.

00:34:32.000 The only rationale for that really is that the government came in and said, as you say, that the solution is not to free people of the oppressive burdens that are keeping them down.

00:34:41.000 The solution is for the government to be your father.

00:34:44.000 And it turns out that the government is not capable of being your father.

00:34:46.000 The government is a terrible father. You know about the Patrick Moynihan Report in 1965, when Moynihan told Lyndon Johnson that we have to get the black man back at the head of the family because we're showing that because of welfare, black men are employed, but they're not getting married because women are getting on welfare and they don't need to get married.

00:35:11.000 And if you read David Garrow's book, Bury the Cross, he talked about this Moynihan report, and he talked about when Moynihan bought it to LBJ, and LBJ said, good idea, let's do it.

00:35:24.000 But he said, you got to go to the civil rights community first and get them to sign off on it.

00:35:29.000 McGeorge Bundy, who was on the Ford Foundation at the time, was sponsoring a retreat for Martin Luther King Jr., And a bunch of pastors and a bunch of civil rights workers.

00:35:38.000 And he said, hey, Patrick, go with me to this retreat, and you can show Dr.

00:35:44.000 King and the rest of the people this great report that you've done, and we can get them to sign off on it.

00:35:49.000 George Bunyan reports in this book.

00:35:51.000 He said that if the Wonder Morninghead got out of that room alive, They cussed them out, called them a racist, all kinds.

00:35:58.000 The feminists really went off on it. 1.00

00:36:00.000 And they said that instead of using that money to put the black man back in charge of his family, they wanted to use the money to put the black woman in charge of the family.

00:36:09.000 And they went to LBJ and lobbied for the man-in-house clause to be put in welfare.

00:36:14.000 It was Martin Luther King Jr.

00:36:17.000 that demanded this, that the man-in-house clause be put in welfare.

00:36:21.000 And LBJ did it, and in one generation, The black community went from, like you said, having 80% of their children being born in two parents' families to 80% being born out of wedlock. 0.80

00:36:32.000 Martin Luther King Jr. was the first recipient of the Margaret Sanger Award in 1966 for helping her set up abortion clinics in the black community.

00:36:41.000 Yeah, he got the Margaret Sanger Award and had his wife go and do a great speech that he had wrote, accepting the award, and it's still on display right now.

00:36:51.000 King Was actually kicked out of the black church in 1961 out of the National Baptist Convention because he tried to take over the convention in Kansas City to use the 10 million member National Baptist Convention for the Civil Rights Movement.

00:37:07.000 And they started to fight on the floor.

00:37:09.000 A preacher died in the process.

00:37:12.000 They sent in the SWAT team, and the mayor of Kansas City had to come in to shut it all down.

00:37:17.000 And at the end, Bishop Jackson won the vote and excommunicated King and his crew out of the black church.

00:37:22.000 So King started his own religion.

00:37:24.000 It was called the Progressive National Baptist Convention.

00:37:27.000 That's the sector Raphael Warnock belongs to.

00:37:30.000 You know, Raphael Warnock, the senator from Georgia, the apostate minister there.

00:37:33.000 Yeah, they believe in abortion, LGBTQ, that bunch of. 1.00

00:37:38.000 But that was King's religion.

00:37:41.000 He started his own church.

00:37:43.000 And the one thing that really knocked me for a loop was when I found out this year from a lot of writings from Virgil Walker and John MacArthur, they even say that Martin Luther King Jr.

00:37:52.000 was not a Christian. He said he was a Baptist minister, he said he was a Christian minister, but in his writings at Stanford University, King says in his own writings he didn't believe in the deity of Christ, He didn't believe in the resurrection.

00:38:08.000 He didn't believe in the virgin birth.

00:38:10.000 And you can't believe in any of these and not be a Christian.

00:38:13.000 So we've been sold a bill of goods that we've been following a Marxist who would set up a Marxist construct in the black community. 0.90

00:38:22.000 And in 1956, Taylor Branch wrote in his book, Parting the Water, America and the King Years, he said in 1956 that the common term Send a directive to their communists in the civil rights movement to turn the black community into a replica of the Soviet Union.

00:38:39.000 And that's exactly where we are right now.

00:38:42.000 One party, a rule, dictator worship, atheism, poverty, substance abuse.

00:38:49.000 They've done exactly what they wanted to do.

00:38:52.000 They've taken us and they've reversed the whole civil war and put us right back on the Democrat Party plantation. 0.54

00:39:01.000 And that's why what you're doing today with me and having given me this platform is so important that many people don't know this.

00:39:09.000 Many people haven't put all of the pieces together.

00:39:13.000 And through my books, from the Iron Triangle, the 25 Lies, the Crime Meek, and now to the end of tolerance, I've explained this.

00:39:21.000 And in my great documentary, Will You Go to Hell for Me?, I put it down.

00:39:25.000 And nobody can refute my arguments.

00:39:28.000 They're an ironclad. We'll get to more of it in a moment.

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00:40:44.000 So let's talk about your brand new book, The End of Tolerance.

00:40:46.000 So you talk about tolerance.

00:40:48.000 Tolerance is obviously promoted by the Democratic Party as not just a virtue, but maybe the only virtue.

00:40:53.000 Obviously, the Democratic Party is not tolerant of everybody.

00:40:55.000 If you are a traditional Bible believer, they're not particularly tolerant. 0.58

00:40:59.000 If you believe in free markets, they're not particularly tolerant.

00:41:02.000 If you believe in traditional gender roles and that boys should remain boys as opposed to being girls, then they're not particularly tolerant.

00:41:08.000 In The End of Tolerance, you talk about how tolerance itself There's no moral content to it.

00:41:13.000 It depends what you are tolerating.

00:41:15.000 It's one thing to tolerate good behavior, but to tolerate bad behavior is actually a sin.

00:41:19.000 You know, Archbishop Charles C. Chapman said, and I'm going to read this, the evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant.

00:41:27.000 Then it tries to silence the good.

00:41:31.000 And that's their game.

00:41:33.000 They preach tolerance.

00:41:34.000 They want us to tolerate their evil. 0.97

00:41:36.000 They're evil. And then when they get power, they silence the good.

00:41:40.000 And we see that now in real time.

00:41:42.000 They're trying to silence us on Twitter.

00:41:45.000 They're trying to silence us on YouTube.

00:41:48.000 They're trying to silence us in the public square.

00:41:49.000 I saw that great testimony you gave before Congress.

00:41:51.000 Where they have these advertisers that are telling people, you know, telling folks, don't advertise to these companies if they don't meet our certain liberal standard.

00:42:00.000 And you tore these guys down.

00:42:03.000 Masterful, man. I got to give you, I was wishing right now to give you a heart at this point.

00:42:07.000 Very good. But you brought attention to it.

00:42:10.000 And I believe that sunlight is the greatest disinfectant.

00:42:13.000 You have to let people understand this because many people, they may tolerance a virtue.

00:42:18.000 And when I started the book with a sermon from the great Reverend Billy Graham that says tolerance is a sin, I go through the book and I read how the Bible says tolerance is a sin.

00:42:30.000 I show how us tolerating and how they've used our tolerance to say this is goodness and how we've allowed LGBTQ to come into a point now where they sexualize our children. 1.00

00:42:40.000 How we've allowed the drugs in our communities, how we've allowed family breakdown, how we've allowed pornography in our communities, and how it is just destroying us, and how now it's time for men to push back.

00:42:55.000 I love the fact, man, that you talk a lot about masculinity, that it's not toxic, that we need men to lead families.

00:43:02.000 We need men to go back into the heads of our family and to lead our communities. 0.95

00:43:06.000 And how you define what manhood is.

00:43:08.000 I'm right with you on that.

00:43:09.000 We need to discuss it, and we need to discuss it with men. 0.95

00:43:13.000 And now there are a litany of women coming out to start talking about it also. 0.99

00:43:17.000 And they are telling these young girls, you've been told a lot, this neoliberal feminism.

00:43:23.000 It's destroying this nation.

00:43:25.000 We can look right now at our birth rate.

00:43:28.000 It's at 1.6.

00:43:29.000 It's been that way now for going on almost 10 years.

00:43:32.000 We are dying as a nation.

00:43:36.000 And I don't know how people see Vladimir Putin, but Putin has a legitimate beef when he says that these satanic Western values are destroying America and it's going to destroy my nation if we allow it to keep percolating over here.

00:43:51.000 We got to push it back.

00:43:53.000 And a lot of what's going on over there right now with the war and with the anger and all the—there's a fight between East Germany—I mean, Eastern Europe and Western Europe, and these Western values and these Christian values that are in Eastern Europe.

00:44:08.000 And there's a collision course now.

00:44:10.000 And the sad thing is that America, the country that used to—we used to push these Christian values of democracy and virtue, and instead of the left saying, We need to stop this, y'all, and we evaluate what we're doing.

00:44:26.000 They're saying, full speed ahead.

00:44:28.000 They have a depopulation movement that wants to see mankind commit suicide.

00:44:35.000 And we have to bring people's attention to these crazy things. 1.00

00:44:39.000 Man, they are crazy as hell.

00:44:41.000 And we got to start calling them that, and we got to start giving them no quarter. 0.98

00:44:45.000 I know you do it every single day.

00:44:47.000 And I want to tell you, I appreciate what you're doing.

00:44:50.000 You've taught me a lot.

00:44:51.000 You've given me courage. 0.97

00:44:53.000 And we have to just keep going, hitting them, hitting them, and hitting them, and hitting them until we break them in half. 0.99

00:44:58.000 You know, you can see it at the DNC. The DNC was literally providing abortions in the parking lot. 1.00

00:45:02.000 Vasectomies and abortions at the parking lot at an 18-foot idol of an IUD, which is a very weird idol to choose, except if you actually believe that pregeneration is actually a bad thing. 0.75

00:45:12.000 And when you talk about America's foreign policy, the thing is that a muscular American foreign policy, in my view, has always been a good thing because it's promoting particular values.

00:45:20.000 And those particular values... Our Christian orientation, Judeo-Christian orientation, things like private property, things like limited government that enhance the rights of human beings to religiously worship.

00:45:32.000 These were all things that were baked into the foundations of the country.

00:45:35.000 When we were fighting fascism in Europe, We weren't fighting to implant a gay pride flag in Berlin.

00:45:40.000 That was not what we were fighting for.

00:45:42.000 And yet what you see now is mandates from the State Department that we're to fly a rainbow flag or a Pride Progress flag outside the Vatican.

00:45:49.000 We won't do it, you know, in the Gaza Strip, obviously, because that might offend all of the Hamasniks that the Democratic Party is trying to cater to. 0.99

00:45:56.000 But it's a very selective group of values that are now being pressed forward by this particular White House and by the administrations that have been democratic.

00:46:07.000 It also opens the door, I think, to, frankly, what is a bit of a—it's a correct critique, but I think it's a cynical play by people like Vladimir Putin.

00:46:16.000 So when Vladimir Putin says, you know, you guys are trying to spread LGBT values in Russia, he's not wrong. 1.00

00:46:21.000 That is a true thing that the United States has been doing all over the world, treating it You're exactly right. 0.69

00:46:50.000 They've afforded him the ability to do that.

00:46:54.000 Because I was reading in my book, they had this guy from the Russian Orthodox Church, I can't come up with his name now, but it's in my book, where he said that one of the things that the EU asked for in order for you to become part of the EU, they say that you must have a gay pride parade in your nation's capital.

00:47:16.000 And that if you don't do that, they will treat you like an alien.

00:47:20.000 And he said that they had to have this thing done in Kiev than they wanted it done in the Donbass region.

00:47:25.000 And the people kind of rebelled against it.

00:47:27.000 And this was their reason, like you said.

00:47:30.000 This is the reason that he used, one of the reasons to do what he did. 0.85

00:47:34.000 And we're affording them this because when you look at America and you see a whole month designed for guys walking around in leather booty shorts, taking their asses in the street, talking about pride, When in Judeo-Christian values, the one thing that God hates is what, man? 0.96

00:47:54.000 Pride! I hate it! 0.99

00:47:58.000 And then these guys use a whole month for pride.

00:48:02.000 And as you and I know, with pride, there's no repentance.

00:48:06.000 There's no reconciliation.

00:48:08.000 Why? Because if you tell a prideful person, you've done wrong things, I've done nothing wrong.

00:48:15.000 You need to repent. For what?

00:48:17.000 I've done nothing wrong.

00:48:19.000 That's the real problem.

00:48:21.000 We all screw up.

00:48:23.000 We all mess up.

00:48:24.000 We all need grace.

00:48:26.000 We all need forgiveness.

00:48:28.000 But when you are filled with pride, it puts a barrier between you and reconciliation with the person that you've wronged.

00:48:37.000 And this is the danger of the whole pride movement. 1.00

00:48:40.000 It's one of your sons stealing your car, spending all your money, then coming back on the weekend to the house, putting his feet up on the furniture, acting like nothing's happening.

00:48:50.000 You're going to look at him and say, don't you have something to say?

00:48:53.000 No. What? Boy, you stole my car.

00:48:57.000 You spent most of my money.

00:48:58.000 And you're not going to come up here and tell me you're sorry?

00:49:01.000 I haven't done anything wrong.

00:49:02.000 Tell you what you do. You get the hell out of my house.

00:49:05.000 Until you come back.

00:49:07.000 And you humble yourself.

00:49:10.000 Like David humbled himself to God.

00:49:13.000 Admit to what you've done.

00:49:16.000 And repent for. And then we can have reconciliation.

00:49:19.000 But until that time, don't you show your face here.

00:49:22.000 This is what the left is taking away from the young.

00:49:25.000 They are giving them this prideful spirit.

00:49:28.000 And with a prideful spirit, you cannot teach a prideful person.

00:49:32.000 You must be a humble, apt pupil.

00:49:34.000 You must go in and humble yourself to your teacher and say, teach me.

00:49:38.000 You know, you've seen athletes that go up to a coach and, you know, they're like, you can't teach that guy.

00:49:44.000 But if he runs up to the coach and looks at him and says, yeah, coach.

00:49:46.000 Yes. Yes. Now I have myself a student.

00:49:50.000 You show up early.

00:49:51.000 You leave late. You do your work hard.

00:49:54.000 You ask questions that assist you in doing your job.

00:49:58.000 Now I have myself in that pupil.

00:49:59.000 But these people are wrapped up in this false pride.

00:50:04.000 And the left just feeds it and feeds it.

00:50:07.000 The pronoun thing, right?

00:50:08.000 The whole gay rights thing.

00:50:10.000 My pronouns. My feelings.

00:50:12.000 My truth. My, my, my, my, my.

00:50:16.000 When's the last time you're in any of those lazy jokers?

00:50:20.000 Thank America for what they've given them.

00:50:23.000 For the house that they live in.

00:50:25.000 You know, people that own, you know, any type of government assistance.

00:50:28.000 You ever see them thank this country for being able to go to the doctor for free?

00:50:32.000 A free house to live in?

00:50:34.000 Free food to eat?

00:50:36.000 No! Pre-education.

00:50:38.000 I want more. More, more, more, more, more.

00:50:42.000 Never gratitude. Never thank you.

00:50:45.000 More, more, more, more, more. 0.53

00:50:47.000 And until they start loving themselves.

00:50:51.000 They can have as many Juneteenths and MLK dates.

00:50:55.000 They can take down as many Confederate flags as they want.

00:51:00.000 They can march as much as they want.

00:51:02.000 They can sweat, they can fight, and they can riot.

00:51:05.000 Until they start loving themselves and start taking responsibility for their own actions, they're going to remain at the bottom.

00:51:12.000 And that's for everybody that believes that sick ideology.

00:51:15.000 When you talk about tolerance, the thing that Judeo-Christian values teach with regard to tolerance is that, obviously, you have to have grace for sinners, but you never have grace for the sin.

00:51:24.000 There's this bizarre mindset in the United States and in the West generally, which is that not only do you have to have grace for people who sin, but the sinner gets to now set the new standard, is unprecedented.

00:51:36.000 I mean, you cannot have a system of rules where the people who violate the rules Are not treated as people we should, again, have tolerance and grace for, but are the people who get to set the new standard themselves.

00:51:48.000 And the more you violate the standard, the better off you are.

00:51:51.000 The more intersectional you are, the more you have been victimized by society.

00:51:54.000 And that really goes to a sense of self-definition that I think so much of the West has bought into.

00:51:59.000 If you're a religious person, if you're a traditional person in any sense, the way that you believe that you are defined as a human being, You were born into a system that predates you, and you owe something to the people who eventually you are going to have to raise.

00:52:10.000 You owe something to the future, and you owe a lot to the past.

00:52:12.000 And if you are in modern society, you're apparently born in the middle of nowhere.

00:52:16.000 You get to set standards for yourself.

00:52:18.000 And in fact, any other institution, any rules are an imposition on you as a human being.

00:52:23.000 And so the most free you could be, the most you, the most authentic you could be, is by blowing up all the rules around you.

00:52:29.000 And so the more violative you are, the more transgressive you are, The stronger and better you are.

00:52:33.000 But that, of course, is not true because that's not how reality works.

00:52:36.000 It turns out that the rules that were set by your ancestors and that you're supposed to pass on to your kids, those are rules for the road.

00:52:42.000 It's as though you're handed a driver's manual by your parents about how to drive this car.

00:52:47.000 And instead of doing that, you just tossed it out the window.

00:52:49.000 You have no idea how anything in the car works.

00:52:51.000 But you now declare that anytime you hit a button and it doesn't do what you want it to do, the car has somehow failed.

00:52:58.000 And then you just start taking a bat to the car.

00:53:00.000 And soon you're left with nothing. 1.00

00:53:01.000 You're left with a complete piece of trash. 0.99

00:53:03.000 And you blame your parents for apparently having built a defective car. 1.00

00:53:07.000 You know what, Ben? You said that so well.

00:53:09.000 And here's the thing.

00:53:11.000 The gatekeepers know that.

00:53:13.000 There's enough empirical evidence over the last 100 years to tell them that everything that they're doing is wrong.

00:53:20.000 This is why I say they're evil.

00:53:22.000 They see the numbers just like you and I see the numbers.

00:53:25.000 These guys are doctors.

00:53:26.000 They know that a baby is alive.

00:53:29.000 They know that when you abort a child up to the ninth month, that child is alive.

00:53:33.000 They know that when they voted against the Stay Alive Bill, that a baby that survives an abortion and you lay them on the table and you just let them die?

00:53:43.000 And then when Trump said they believe in abortion after the ninth month, no, we don't.

00:53:45.000 No, we don't. You voted against the Stay Alive Bill.

00:53:47.000 Of course you do. Of course you do.

00:53:50.000 They know this. 0.95

00:53:52.000 A Democratic Party, heaven, is an American hell.

00:53:55.000 John F. Kennedy stood in front of the Berlin Wall.

00:53:59.000 1963, I think it was. All these people who think that communism is great, that it's so good, let them come to Berlin.

00:54:06.000 Well, I tell you that if you think the Democratic Party is so great, it is so good, let them come to Detroit.

00:54:13.000 Let them come to Chicago.

00:54:15.000 Let them come to Memphis. Let them come to Seattle. 0.99

00:54:17.000 Let them come to Portland, LA. Let them come to Richmond.

00:54:21.000 Let them come to anywhere that they rule.

00:54:26.000 Milwaukee. Philadelphia.

00:54:29.000 Mayhem, murder, destruction, terrible schools. 0.99

00:54:33.000 They control every whole house, every crack corner, every failing school, every corrupt police force, every judge, every jury that's sending black men to prison. 1.00

00:54:44.000 They know exactly what they're doing. 0.91

00:54:46.000 This is not a mistake, just like the old slave plantation. 0.99

00:54:49.000 They knew what they were doing.

00:54:51.000 It was all about them.

00:54:53.000 One question. Am I maintaining power?

00:54:56.000 Answer, yes. Don't change a thing.

00:55:00.000 That's who they are. Well, Vince, obviously, you know, your passion is infectious.

00:55:04.000 Everybody should go check out your brand new book, The End of Tolerance.

00:55:07.000 Really appreciate the time.

00:55:09.000 And thanks for fighting for what you're fighting for.

00:55:11.000 Ben, thank you so much, man.

00:55:12.000 You're a true patriot. You're a true American.

00:55:14.000 You're a good man. I love your show.

00:55:16.000 Thank you so much. Really appreciate it.

00:55:17.000 Keep this ball rolling, man, because you're changing the world.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - October 13, 2024

Race and Religion in American Politics | Vince Everett Ellison

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