The Ben Shapiro Show - Red Flags Everywhere | Ep. 852

00:00:00.000 Hurricane Dorian gains steam, another mass shooting rocks Texas, and Hollywood celebs target anybody who backs Trump.

00:00:06.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:06.000 This is the Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:08.000 Guys, I hope you had a wonderful Labor Day weekend.

00:00:15.000 That was something the labor movement was good for, right?

00:00:17.000 I mean, the Labor Day weekend was nice.

00:00:18.000 Just a random day that you get off.

00:00:20.000 Also, the rest of this week is short, so we'll get through it together.

00:00:23.000 We have a lot to get to today.

00:00:25.000 Let's start with the latest on this hurricane.

00:00:27.000 So according to the Washington Post, Category 3 Hurricane Dorian has parked itself over the northwestern Bahamas since Sunday night.

00:00:33.000 I mean, this sucker is moving like traffic on the 405, meaning not at all.

00:00:37.000 It has unleashed a nightmare 24-hour siege of devastating storm surge, destructive winds, and blinding rain. 0.71

00:00:42.000 With Dorian perched perilously close to the Florida peninsula, Monday night into the first part of Tuesday has become the critical time that is likely to determine whether the state is dealt a powerful blow or a less intense scrape.

00:00:54.000 Just tens of miles and subtle storm wobbles could make the difference between the two scenarios.

00:00:59.000 The storm has come to a standstill over Grand Bahama Island.

00:01:02.000 If it soon starts to turn north, Florida would be spared Dorian's full fury.

00:01:06.000 It looks right now, according to the Storm Act, like that is a significant possibility that it sort of hugs the coast but doesn't actually slam into Florida full force.

00:01:13.000 If Dorian lumbers just a little more to the west, more serious storm effects would pummel parts of the coastline.

00:01:18.000 Such small differences in the track forecast will have similar implications further north from coastal Georgia to the Carolinas.

00:01:25.000 Millions of people have been evacuated in expectation that this hurricane could slam into the Florida coast.

00:01:31.000 The National Hurricane Center has issued hurricane storm surge and tropical storm watches and warnings from the Atlantic coast of Florida northward into South Carolina.

00:01:39.000 Storm surge refers to the storm-driven rise in ocean water above normally dry land, according to the Washington Post.

00:01:45.000 The National Weather Service office in Melbourne, Florida says the threat of damaging winds and life-threatening storm surge remains high.

00:01:51.000 There will be considerable impact and damage to coastal areas with at least some effects felt inland as well. 0.96

00:01:56.000 Okay, so guys, if you are in the path of the hurricane and the authorities are telling you to move, do not be a silly person. 0.96

00:02:01.000 Move.

00:02:02.000 We've seen too many cases where people stick around and then it puts people's lives in danger.

00:02:07.000 Not just the people who stick around, but also people who are supposed to rescue them.

00:02:11.000 You know, there are always these stories of people who stick around and brave it out. 1.00

00:02:13.000 That's not braving it out, that's you being a moron. 1.00

00:02:15.000 If they tell you to move, you should move. 1.00

00:02:17.000 Because if you don't move, you're putting yourself at needless risk.

00:02:20.000 So, that is sort of the story and the latest.

00:02:23.000 This has not prevented the media from focusing in on the chief problem here.

00:02:26.000 The chief problem, of course, is President Trump.

00:02:28.000 Because always, always, It doesn't matter what's happening in the universe. 0.99

00:02:31.000 President Trump is the black hole of attention that sucks in all light and emits none. 0.97

00:02:36.000 So President Trump over the weekend, as per his usual routine, was riffing because this is what he does. 1.00

00:02:41.000 And honestly, I find it really ridiculous. 0.91

00:02:44.000 I found it ridiculous when Barack Obama did it. 0.90

00:02:46.000 I find it ridiculous when Bush did it. 0.93

00:02:49.000 I find it ridiculous when Trump does it.

00:02:50.000 This routine where the president is supposed to go to the Storm Center at the Department of Homeland Security or at FEMA and he's supposed to oversee things.

00:02:58.000 He ain't the king, okay?

00:02:59.000 We've got entire staffs of people dedicated to doing this.

00:03:01.000 You'd think that President Obama knew a lot about storm relief, like that was his area of expertise, when he would jet set into the aftermath of a hurricane and comfort people.

00:03:10.000 Again, the president was a reality star long before Donald Trump was a reality star. 0.52

00:03:16.000 And the notion that the president either controls the weather or has significant impact in how the weather is taken care of from above afterward is just ridiculous.

00:03:23.000 FEMA handles it, there are regulations that govern how FEMA is supposed to handle all of this. 0.73

00:03:27.000 In any case, President Trump, and this is not his fault, but he shows up at the Department of Homeland Security to talk about the hurricane.

00:03:34.000 Again, I just find it so off-putting, this godlike emperor figure, not Trump, just the presidency, who's supposed to descend from on high and then talk about hurricanes like they know anything about hurricanes.

00:03:43.000 Here's President Trump not knowing things about hurricanes.

00:03:46.000 Americans are strong, determined, and resilient, and we will support each other.

00:03:51.000 And we will work very hard to minimize whatever the effect of what's coming at us.

00:03:57.000 We don't even know what's coming at us.

00:03:59.000 All we know is it's possibly the biggest.

00:04:01.000 I have not sure, I'm not sure that I've ever even heard of a Category 5.

00:04:05.000 I knew it existed, and I've seen some Category 4s.

00:04:09.000 You don't even see them that much.

00:04:11.000 A category five is something that, uh, I don't know that I've ever even heard the term other than I know it's there.

00:04:17.000 Okay, so everybody gets very uptight about Trump saying this sort of thing.

00:04:21.000 Okay, because this is what Trump does, okay?

00:04:23.000 Everything that he ever does is superlative.

00:04:25.000 So if a woman is beautiful, she's not just beautiful.

00:04:27.000 She's the most beautiful.

00:04:29.000 And if a storm is big, it's not just big, it's the biggest we've ever seen.

00:04:32.000 And if there's a recession, it's not just a recession, it's the worst recession in human history.

00:04:36.000 And if it's a great economic boom, it's not just a great economic boom, it's the greatest economic boom since God created the earth.

00:04:42.000 The seventh day, huge economic boom, let me tell you.

00:04:45.000 Okay, so naturally the media go nuts over this.

00:04:47.000 How dare Trump say he's never seen a Category 5 hurricane?

00:04:51.000 Anderson Cooper is very upset about this because Anderson Cooper has stood outside in the middle of rainwater and such.

00:04:57.000 So here is Anderson Cooper being very upset that Trump doesn't know there have been other Category 5s on his watch or something.

00:05:03.000 Category 5 is something that I don't know that I've ever even heard the term.

00:05:08.000 Okay, so what makes what you just heard even more confusing or even weirder is that multiple Category 5 hurricanes have either hit or threatened to hit the United States during his presidency.

00:05:21.000 I mean, what heroic journalism there from Anderson Cooper.

00:05:21.000 Wow.

00:05:24.000 You mean President Trump got a thing wrong?

00:05:26.000 Well, obviously that means he doesn't care about hurricanes.

00:05:29.000 And then Anderson Cooper doubles down. 0.54

00:05:30.000 He says, well, Trump's off golfing.

00:05:32.000 Again, there are certain situations in which I think that the president is basically necessary.

00:05:36.000 It seems to me that, let's say, when an embassy in Benghazi is on fire, and the president might be needed in order to determine whether or not American troops ought to be sent there to protect an American embassy, that jet setting off to Las Vegas for a party with Beyonce and Jay-Z, that might be, like, not a great thing to do.

00:05:51.000 Or if you're going golfing in the middle of some sort of national security crisis, but you have an entire FEMA, Hey, you have an entire federal agency that is, that's directive, it's sole directive is to watch this stuff.

00:06:02.000 Do you think that President Trump's presence in the White House is going to make a large deal of difference when it comes to the fallout from a hurricane that has not yet hit land?

00:06:10.000 Granted, it's bad optics, but is it really a difference maker?

00:06:14.000 Again, the role of the presidency in the public mind is so large and so ridiculous that we tend to think of the president as sitting over some sort of desk with control buttons.

00:06:21.000 If I just hit this one right here, well, that means that I've stopped the hurricane.

00:06:25.000 Deploy the resources, Bob!

00:06:26.000 Pick up the red phone like the mayor on the old Batman show.

00:06:30.000 In any case, here's Anderson Cooper saying, you know, Trump's off golfing and there's a hurricane about to hit.

00:06:34.000 Okay, whatever, man.

00:06:36.000 This was his 227th day at one of his golf clubs since he took office.

00:06:41.000 Right.

00:06:41.000 It would be one thing if he had not gone after the former president about golfing and said that he would never go golfing because he'd be too busy and doing too important work and winning so much.

00:06:54.000 It's not us nitpicking, it's using his own criteria for judging other presidents, and by his own criteria, he sure is golfing a lot.

00:07:05.000 Okay, well, again, there's something fair about that.

00:07:08.000 I mean, Trump did go after Barack Obama a lot on the golfing, but I will note somebody who did not go after Barack Obama a lot on the golfing, and his name is Anderson Cooper.

00:07:15.000 I don't remember Anderson Cooper doing a lot of stories about Barack Obama golfing.

00:07:18.000 Now that it's Trump, it's like, oh, it's terrible.

00:07:20.000 I can't believe that Donald Trump would go golfing.

00:07:22.000 I mean, especially when he said golfing was bad.

00:07:23.000 Right.

00:07:24.000 And you said golfing wasn't bad.

00:07:25.000 And now you think golfing is bad.

00:07:26.000 So this whole thing, not everything is about Trump, guys.

00:07:29.000 I mean, short story.

00:07:31.000 Not everything is about Trump.

00:07:32.000 It's a hurricane.

00:07:33.000 We're all on the same side.

00:07:34.000 We would like to see the hurricane not hurt people.

00:07:37.000 And we will deploy all the resources we can.

00:07:39.000 And that is going to be true, whether it is Barack Obama, or George W. Bush, or Donald Trump.

00:07:43.000 Like, this is the most non-controversial part of being president, is, look, a disaster.

00:07:47.000 Let's deploy the resources that we have federal taxation to pay for.

00:07:51.000 Let's do that thing.

00:07:52.000 And who's sitting around going, no, not gonna do it.

00:07:56.000 This is such silliness.

00:07:57.000 Now, in a second we're going to talk about silliness with regard to another topic where there should be unity, because that is the name of the political game these days, is that there's a topic where there should be some sort of unity, and instead we decide, you know what?

00:08:09.000 No unity!

00:08:10.000 Let's scream at each other for no apparent reason!

00:08:12.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:08:27.000 You don't eat it.

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00:09:52.000 Okay, so meanwhile, speaking of topics where there should be unanimity, and yet there is not, there is a mass shooting over the weekend again.

00:10:00.000 And this is happening far too often, obviously.

00:10:04.000 But this one was out of the news within 48 hours.

00:10:06.000 And this is always fascinating to watch.

00:10:08.000 Because when a mass shooting happens, if it fulfills certain criteria the media are looking for, it remains in the news forever.

00:10:14.000 If it does not fulfill the criteria the media are looking for, it disappears.

00:10:18.000 It's gone, right?

00:10:19.000 So if it's the El Paso shooting and it's a white supremacist shooting Hispanics going aisle to aisle in a Walmart, in the news forever. 0.70

00:10:25.000 If it is a shooting at a black church in Charleston, South Carolina, in the news forever. 0.57

00:10:30.000 If it is a shooting of children in Sandy Hook, Connecticut, in the news forever.

00:10:34.000 If it's a shooting in Parkland, Florida, in the news forever.

00:10:37.000 If it's a shooting at a gay club in Orlando, nope, we don't talk about that one anymore.

00:10:41.000 If it is a shooting at a church in Texas, we don't talk about that one anymore.

00:10:45.000 If it's a shooting in Dayton, Ohio, we don't talk about that one anymore.

00:10:48.000 And this one here in Odessa, Texas, we don't talk about this one.

00:10:51.000 There's no need to talk about this one.

00:10:52.000 Why?

00:10:53.000 Because there are certain criteria the media are looking for.

00:10:55.000 One, they're looking for a long gun.

00:10:57.000 They're looking for somebody who's using an AR-15.

00:10:59.000 Two, they're looking for somebody who's motivated by some sort of white supremacist or quasi-right beliefs that they can pin on conservatives.

00:11:07.000 And three, they're looking for some sort of mass shooting scenario in which the motive is not only clear and convincing, but the person who is at issue is not really on anyone's radar so much.

00:11:20.000 If there are too many red flags, then it tends to fall off, right?

00:11:24.000 If there are too many red flags, so you need a clear motive in order for the media to let, and the motive has to be some sort of motive that cannot be attributed to the left.

00:11:30.000 So if it's an attempted shooting of congressional baseball players, people playing baseball who are in Congress, then that doesn't make the news.

00:11:37.000 It has to be a clear motive.

00:11:38.000 The motive has to be a right-wing motive or something that can be pinned on the right wing if you're the media.

00:11:43.000 And three, it has to be with a certain type of gun.

00:11:45.000 So if it's with a handgun, then it doesn't make a difference.

00:11:47.000 If it's with a long gun, that's what you're looking for.

00:11:49.000 Those are the three.

00:11:50.000 A motive they can attribute to the right, and it has to be with a particular type of gun.

00:11:53.000 Well, this shooting in Odessa did not fulfill all of those three categories.

00:11:57.000 According to CNN, the Odessa Police Department on Sunday identified the man who killed seven people and wounded 22 others in a shooting spree in West Texas.

00:12:05.000 Now immediately, as soon as the spree started happening, this was top of news, obviously, because it's big news when someone goes on a shooting spree.

00:12:11.000 This person, it turns out, however, was not motivated by any sort of right-wing beliefs.

00:12:16.000 And not only was this person not motivated by right-wing beliefs, there are a thousand red flags.

00:12:20.000 This is one of the criteria, too, is the media would like for somebody who didn't trip off any red flags, really, because then it can't be blamed on government failure.

00:12:29.000 Then it can be blamed on the right-wing generally.

00:12:32.000 It can be blamed on America's tenor of violence.

00:12:34.000 If, however, it can be blamed on the authorities missing it over and over and over and over again, then things get really awkward because the media don't like that story.

00:12:42.000 This is what happened in Parkland.

00:12:43.000 In Parkland, it was the authorities led by the Broward County Sheriff, Scott Israel, failing repeatedly to target the shooter in that particular case or protect the school.

00:12:54.000 The media just pretended that never happened.

00:12:55.000 And then there's this big town hall on CNN.

00:12:58.000 With Dana Lash and and with Marco Rubio in which the right wing was abused while Scott Israel stood there and grinned with Jake Tapper presiding.

00:13:06.000 That's what the media are looking for.

00:13:07.000 This shooting does not fulfill any of these criteria.

00:13:09.000 So according to CNN, this particular shooter had been fired from his trucking job just hours before the rampage killing, according to The New York Times.

00:13:17.000 Also, this person was arrested in 2001 for criminal trespass and evading arrest, both misdemeanors, according to public records.

00:13:23.000 Adjudication was deferred, though the details of the case were not immediately available.

00:13:27.000 Also, his record included a 2018 traffic citation for a federal motor carrier safety violation, according to Hector County Court records.

00:13:35.000 Apparently, the shooter was pulled over by Texas troopers in Midland on Saturday afternoon for failing to use his signal.

00:13:40.000 He then shot at the troopers with what police described as an AR-type weapon and sped away.

00:13:44.000 Okay, so they get one factor, but not the other two.

00:13:47.000 Driving on streets and highways, he sprayed bullets randomly at residents and motorists, according to police.

00:13:51.000 The man then hijacked a postal truck and ditched his gold Honda, shooting at people as he made his way into Odessa, about 20 miles away.

00:13:57.000 There, police confronted him in a movie theater parking lot and killed him in a shootout.

00:14:02.000 It's unclear what the motive was, according to investigators.

00:14:06.000 The FBI special agent in charge, Christopher Combs, at his agency responds to Texas frequently.

00:14:11.000 He said the FBI is, quote, here now almost every other week supporting our local and state partners on active shooters.

00:14:16.000 We're almost every two weeks an active shooter in this country.

00:14:20.000 Apparently there are about 15 different crime scenes.

00:14:22.000 Now, it was pretty clear early on, according to media reports, that there were a thousand red flags that got missed, which again counters why this thing should be in the news, according to the media.

00:14:32.000 If there are red flags, it's a government failure.

00:14:34.000 That's bad.

00:14:35.000 What the media are looking for is no government failure.

00:14:38.000 He called the national tip line about 15 minutes before his encounter with the troopers.

00:14:42.000 You know, something white supremacists they can pretend is a normal conservative position, even when it totally isn't.

00:14:42.000 Right.

00:14:46.000 So ABC News reports that this Odessa shooter actually called an FBI headline like 15 minutes before he went on a shooting spree.

00:14:53.000 He called the national tip line about 15 minutes before his encounter with the troopers.

00:14:57.000 It was, frankly, rambling statements about some of the atrocities that he felt that he had gone through.

00:15:06.000 He did not make a threat during that phone call.

00:15:09.000 He ended that phone call.

00:15:11.000 After the phone call, we initiated all of our law enforcement procedures, trying to figure out who he was, where he was.

00:15:17.000 Fortunately, it was only 15 minutes before the trooper was engaged.

00:15:20.000 Okay, so that was one red flag.

00:15:22.000 And then there was another red flag.

00:15:23.000 Apparently, CNN reported that this particular shooter threatened to shoot his neighbor next month.

00:15:29.000 And nothing happened.

00:15:30.000 That's a pretty big red flag there, guys.

00:15:30.000 At all.

00:15:33.000 He is a 36-year-old white man.

00:15:35.000 A neighbor tells CNN that last month he threatened her with a rifle after she put trash in a nearby dumpster.

00:15:41.000 She says that he would often shoot into his backyard from a structure on top of his house and then go and retrieve dead animals.

00:15:49.000 She also tells us that she called the police after that incident last month but claims they never showed up because the property's location doesn't show up on GPS.

00:15:58.000 And it's hard to find.

00:15:59.000 As far as a motive, that is still unknown, and the FBI special agent in charge warns we may never know.

00:16:06.000 Well, whoopsie doodle.

00:16:07.000 So it turns out that there are all of these terrible red flags, everybody missed them, and that's why you're not hearing about this shooting anymore.

00:16:12.000 It's not going to be top of news today.

00:16:14.000 If this were El Paso, it would be in the news for weeks.

00:16:16.000 It's not El Paso, so therefore it's not in the news for even days.

00:16:20.000 Now as we'll see, the Odessa shooter also failed a gun background check.

00:16:24.000 And we'll get to that in just one second.

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00:17:59.000 OK, so.

00:18:01.000 As I say, more red flags.

00:18:02.000 Apparently, the Odessa shooter failed the gun background check.

00:18:05.000 The governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, he tweeted on Monday that a gunman in Saturday's mass shooting in Midland and Odessa had previously failed the gun purchase background check, did not go through a background check to buy the gun used in Saturday's incident.

00:18:16.000 Another thing that cuts against this being in the news.

00:18:16.000 Whoops!

00:18:18.000 If it turns out there are regulations that were already violated, then would another regulation have stopped any of this?

00:18:23.000 The answer, of course, Is no.

00:18:25.000 Abbott's tweet didn't say, according to the Texas Tribune, why the 36-year-old Odessa man didn't pass the background check or how he obtained the rifle he used to kill seven people and injure 22 others.

00:18:35.000 Abbott also cited the shooter's criminal history, said we must keep guns out of criminals' hands.

00:18:39.000 Now, this should be an area of relative unanimity.

00:18:42.000 As I say, the left doesn't have the ability to blame it on the right.

00:18:46.000 This is obviously a bunch of red flags that were ignored, a bunch of government failures.

00:18:50.000 This guy violated a bunch of regulations, so additional regulations probably would not have helped here.

00:18:55.000 And yet somehow, this has still become a partisan issue.

00:18:58.000 Because if we can make a hurricane partisan, man, we can make anything partisan.

00:19:01.000 And if it's not partisan enough, then it just sort of drops off the table in the news cycle.

00:19:06.000 It's no longer there.

00:19:07.000 Well, leading the charge this time in the gun control battle is Joe Biden, who's been looking for sort of a rationale for being in the race.

00:19:13.000 The big problem for Joe Biden is that he still can't answer a very simple question.

00:19:17.000 Why are you running?

00:19:18.000 This is one of the big problems for Hillary Clinton in 2016. 1.00

00:19:21.000 Bernie Sanders could tell you why he's running.

00:19:23.000 He wants more Putin, of course, but actually he was running because he wants more socialism.

00:19:28.000 Hillary Clinton kept being asked why she was running, and it was basically because I deserve it. 0.84

00:19:32.000 And Joe Biden is the same thing.

00:19:34.000 If you ask Joe Biden why he's running, he'll talk about the soul of the country and all this stuff.

00:19:38.000 But what it really feels like is he's running because he's real old and he's run one million times before and he was Barack Obama's VP.

00:19:45.000 And shouldn't you just sort of hand it to him like a lifetime achievement award?

00:19:48.000 It's like the Oscars, and you know somebody's about to plot, so you give them the Lifetime Achievement Award.

00:19:52.000 Well, there's a problem for Joe Biden.

00:19:53.000 So he's been looking for some sort of spice in his campaign.

00:19:56.000 And the media are picking up on this.

00:19:58.000 So the media love, love, love, love, love Elizabeth Warren.

00:20:00.000 And we'll get to Senator Warren in just a second, because her career is sort of fascinating.

00:20:05.000 It's fascinating how she moved from a sort of heterodox, iconoclastic thinker into somebody who is doctrinaire, on the left, Bernie Sanders type, because she didn't used to be.

00:20:13.000 But Joe Biden The reason the media are out of love with him right now is because he can't answer that simple question.

00:20:18.000 So the New York Times has a piece today by Mark Leibovich titled, Does Joe Biden want to be doing this?

00:20:24.000 Which is always a good sign for your campaign.

00:20:26.000 Do you even want to be here, Joe?

00:20:30.000 Joseph R. Biden was asked after a recent speech in Pearl, Iowa.

00:20:34.000 The answer to such an inquiry would appear self-evident in the case of Mr. Biden, who began his running-for-president routine more than three decades ago.

00:20:40.000 In other words, very badly, one would assume.

00:20:42.000 But the question posed by a reporter seemed to come at Mr. Biden as a bit of a curveball, a variant of the why-do-you-want-to-be-president riddle that CBS's Roger Mudd famously stumped Ted Kennedy with 40 years ago.

00:20:52.000 The former VP paused.

00:20:54.000 I think it's really, really, really important that Donald Trump not be reelected, Biden said, which is more of a rationale than an answer.

00:21:00.000 That's true.

00:21:01.000 I mean, when the New York Times says that's more of a rationale than an answer, correct.

00:21:05.000 But that doesn't explain why you want to be president.

00:21:08.000 That explains why you don't want Donald Trump to be president.

00:21:11.000 He then launched into a classic Biden roller derby of verbiage, in which he listed all the reasons he found Trump so distasteful.

00:21:16.000 He landed on a question to himself.

00:21:18.000 Could I die happily, not having heard hail to the chief play for me?

00:21:21.000 He said, yeah, I could.

00:21:22.000 That's not why I'm running.

00:21:24.000 So why is he running, says The New York Times?

00:21:26.000 And is the singular nature of the opponent all it will take to convince voters that Joe Biden really wants to be doing this right now, at this vicious moment in our politics, at this stage of his life?

00:21:35.000 Remarkably, after all this time, Mr. Biden stumbles to come up with a clear answer.

00:21:39.000 His use of Mr. Trump as a campaign mission statement might be a good enough reason, at least to win Biden the Democratic nomination in a large field where two other leading candidates, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, appear to be splitting the progressive vote, which would be less inclined to support him to begin with.

00:21:53.000 Biden's campaign has been jackhammering home the premise that he is best suited to winning a general election against an incumbent who must not be reelected.

00:21:59.000 Anita Dunn, who used to work for the Obama White House, she says, he doesn't think you need a revolution here.

00:22:05.000 Instead, it's a strategic bet, according to The New York Times, that given the possibility of another four years of Trump, Democrats will gravitate to the familiar and reach for the stitched up old teddy bear of a candidate.

00:22:15.000 Brutal.

00:22:16.000 But that is the reality.

00:22:18.000 So Joe Biden has been looking for a rationale for why he is running, because while his numbers are fairly durable so far, if he can't answer that question sometime in here, it's going to be a serious problem for him.

00:22:30.000 Right now, he's running in the low 30s.

00:22:31.000 But let's say that we go another year, another year.

00:22:34.000 Remember, it's still September.

00:22:36.000 The nominee is not going to be determined in the Democratic Party until July of next year.

00:22:42.000 So it's going to be another 10, 9, 10 months of this routine.

00:22:44.000 If Joe Biden can't come up with a better answer for why are you running for president, then I really, really dislike Trump.

00:22:50.000 Then it's over for you, buddy.

00:22:51.000 Well, so Biden is looking for a rationale when he thinks maybe he's found it in gun control.

00:22:56.000 Now, he's not good at this.

00:22:58.000 This is part of the problem for Joe Biden.

00:23:00.000 And so even when he's making the case in favor of gun control, he literally has no idea what he is talking about.

00:23:05.000 This is a guy who once suggested that he bought a pump action shotgun so that if somebody came on his property and was a criminal, you could either blast through a door, which would be probably a bad idea because you don't know who's on the other end of it, or that he would go out onto the balcony of his home and fire the gun into the air, which is like something that he saw from an old Western with Charlton Heston or something.

00:23:26.000 Here is Joe Biden over the weekend suggesting that his solution on this is a ban on magazines.

00:23:32.000 He says any magazine that holds a bullet, which is literally what a magazine is meant to do.

00:23:36.000 So what is he talking about?

00:23:37.000 We're all going to start turning in every semi-automatic weapon and using revolvers and old bolt action rifles.

00:23:44.000 What the hell is he talking about here?

00:23:47.000 It has to stop.

00:23:48.000 The idea that we don't have elimination of assault-type weapons, magazines that can hold multiple bullets in them, is absolutely mindless.

00:23:58.000 It is no violation of the Second Amendment.

00:24:02.000 It's just a bow to the special interest of the gun manufacturers and the NRA.

00:24:07.000 Okay, so any gun that can hold multiple bullets he wants to ban?

00:24:11.000 And that's bowing to the NRA?

00:24:13.000 One of the things that is so irritating about gun control talk for the left Is that people do not become pro-gun because the NRA exists.

00:24:20.000 The NRA exists because people are pro-gun.

00:24:22.000 It's like saying that Planned Parenthood, in the absence of Planned Parenthood, there would be no push for abortion.

00:24:26.000 No, Planned Parenthood exists because there was a push for abortion. 0.97

00:24:29.000 Emily's List exists because there's a push for abortion. 1.00

00:24:32.000 The NRA is no different.

00:24:33.000 It will get to more of the Democrats trying to find a reason to exist by pushing gun control in just one second. 0.98

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00:25:54.000 Okay, so it's not just Joe Biden out on the campaign trail.

00:25:57.000 Trying to claim that we should get rid of magazines that hold multiple bullets, which good luck with that.

00:26:03.000 Also, Biden then suggests that President Trump doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to pass gun control because Joe Biden is a man of courage while he's stumbling into trees and such.

00:26:12.000 So no possible solution to deal with this gun issue.

00:26:16.000 There is a solution.

00:26:17.000 I don't see anything out there.

00:26:19.000 Do you?

00:26:19.000 I've seen nothing.

00:26:20.000 The president has no intestinal fortitude to deal with it.

00:26:25.000 He knows better.

00:26:27.000 His instinct was to say, yeah, we're going to do something about it.

00:26:31.000 What's he doing?

00:26:32.000 Come on.

00:26:33.000 This is disgraceful.

00:26:35.000 This is disgraceful.

00:26:37.000 There is no solution.

00:26:37.000 The solution is to win.

00:26:39.000 Well, I seem to recall that you were vice president for eight years, and for several of those years, at the very beginning of the presidency, you had basically 60 votes in the Senate.

00:26:46.000 That's how you got Obamacare.

00:26:48.000 And yet you didn't do anything on this topic.

00:26:49.000 Weird.

00:26:50.000 Weird.

00:26:51.000 Biden also stumbled and bumbled over the Constitution here.

00:26:53.000 He says, well, the Constitution doesn't say anyone can own a weapon.

00:26:56.000 Well, the Constitution does pretty much say that, so long as you're not a criminal.

00:27:01.000 That's kind of what the Second Amendment basically says.

00:27:04.000 It's a right to keep and bear arms.

00:27:06.000 So yeah, it does actually.

00:27:08.000 Every single solitary amendment has a limitation on it.

00:27:13.000 Now, the limitation that exists on the Second Amendment is, nowhere does it say you can own any kind of weapon you want.

00:27:22.000 Nowhere does it say anyone can own a weapon.

00:27:27.000 And those who say, maybe some do, that the tree of liberty is watered with the blood of patriots, meaning you've got to be able to have enough power to take on your government, well, you need an F-15.

00:27:39.000 You need an M1 tank.

00:27:41.000 You need flamethrowers.

00:27:42.000 You need bazookas.

00:27:43.000 No, I'm serious!

00:27:44.000 If that's the rationale.

00:27:45.000 OK, I know that that's actually not a serious argument, considering the fact that small arms have typically been a fairly good method of resisting a major power, as Joe Biden will know.

00:27:54.000 But in any case, Joe Biden stumbling.

00:27:57.000 It doesn't say anyone can.

00:27:58.000 It kind of does.

00:27:59.000 I mean, as long as you're an adult with very minor restrictions, it basically says if you're a law abiding citizen, then you can own a weapon.

00:27:59.000 Right.

00:28:05.000 OK, so it's not just Biden doing this.

00:28:06.000 It's also Beto O'Rourke.

00:28:07.000 Beto desperately looking for rationale for his campaign.

00:28:10.000 And he has also stumbled on gun control because of the shooting in El Paso.

00:28:13.000 He says he's just going to start confiscating semi-automatic weapons.

00:28:16.000 Yes, I'm sure that nothing promotes people coming together quite like saying that you're going to take 150, 200 million Americans and just forcibly remove their guns from them.

00:28:25.000 I'm sure this is going to go great for Beto O'Rourke.

00:28:28.000 How do you address the fear that the government is going to take away those assault rifles, as you call them, if you're talking about buybacks and bannings?

00:28:36.000 Yeah.

00:28:37.000 So I want to be really clear that that's exactly what we're going to do.

00:28:43.000 Americans who own AR-15s, AK-47s, will have to sell them to the government.

00:28:50.000 We're not going to allow them to stay on our streets, to show up in our communities.

00:28:54.000 Okay, so we're not going to allow.

00:28:56.000 How is he going to do this?

00:28:57.000 With his magic precedenting powers?

00:28:59.000 This is one of the problems with the idea of the president as dictator.

00:29:03.000 This is not how any of this works.

00:29:05.000 Now, one of the things that makes unanimity nearly impossible in the country right now, and it makes it impossible to even have rational discussions, even about things like gun control, is that we don't trust our neighbors.

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00:30:29.000 So we are now in a vicious cycle of distrust, right?

00:30:40.000 We have decided that because some people in our community want to use the government to come after us, that we distrust those people.

00:30:45.000 And then those people decide that because they distrust you, they want the government to go after you.

00:30:49.000 So it's this vicious cycle of mistrust.

00:30:51.000 And this is why, for example, red flag gun laws, which seem like they make a lot of sense, they rely on the idea that your neighbor isn't going to call the cops on you just because you have a political disagreement.

00:31:02.000 Red flag gun laws are the idea that a neighbor, a friend, they see something bad happening, they call the cops, and now there can be a preliminary removal of your guns for the moment while we ascertain what exactly is going on.

00:31:15.000 And frankly, I don't have a general problem with this idea.

00:31:19.000 The problem is that you may have your next door neighbor who just wants to remove your guns, bite into the fact they disagree with you.

00:31:25.000 And evidence of this comes from our good friends in Hollywood.

00:31:27.000 So, remember that time when Hollywood was super pissed off Because supposedly it was a wide breach of American values to target actual communist agents inside Hollywood.

00:31:35.000 There were the McCarthy hearings, and this was apparently the worst thing that ever happened in the United States.

00:31:39.000 Now, McCarthy hearings were quite bad, but worst thing to ever happen in the United States, not so much.

00:31:45.000 People are going to say I'm strawmanning that.

00:31:46.000 How many films has Hollywood made about the McCarthy era?

00:31:49.000 Approximately 1,623,211.

00:31:50.000 I mean, they make a movie about the McCarthy era every five minutes.

00:31:55.000 Meanwhile, they are McCarthyites.

00:31:58.000 The highest levels of Hollywood are McCarthyites. 0.69

00:32:00.000 It's the reason why I have a number of fairly prominent Hollywood people that I talk to.

00:32:04.000 When I say fairly prominent, I mean A-listers who I talk to on a fairly regular basis, and I will never, ever reveal who they are, specifically because then the left would come and ruin their career.

00:32:13.000 Then the left would come in and suggest that these people should not be able to talk to me, a mainstream conservative, because this inherently makes them very, very bad.

00:32:19.000 And you've seen this over and over with anybody who even has a conversation with people on the right.

00:32:25.000 I have literally met in restaurants in Los Angeles wearing a baseball cap and sunglasses with people in Hollywood on like early Sunday mornings when no one else is around because people are afraid that they are going to be spotted by other forces in Hollywood who call them out for even having met with a prominent conservative.

00:32:40.000 It truly is unbelievable.

00:32:42.000 Well, listen, I'm willing to meet with pretty much anybody.

00:32:45.000 I have met with all sorts of very, very prominent, famous people in a wide variety of industries. 0.94

00:32:50.000 I will never reveal who those people are because, frankly, it's nobody's damn business.

00:32:55.000 And the fact is that Hollywood and journalists who are out there, they wish to harm people who will even text with people, have conversations with people.

00:33:03.000 So here is a perfect example.

00:33:04.000 So Andy Lassner is a really nice guy.

00:33:06.000 Andy Lassner also happens to be a producer on Ellen.

00:33:09.000 And this means that he can be shamed.

00:33:11.000 He can be shamed.

00:33:12.000 Now, Andy Lassner, good dude, right?

00:33:15.000 I've dealt with him a little bit on Twitter.

00:33:17.000 Seems like a really nice guy.

00:33:18.000 He's friends with Yashar Ali, another really nice guy who I've dealt with on Twitter.

00:33:22.000 Andy Lassner, he tweeted out after this latest shooting.

00:33:25.000 Here's the truth.

00:33:26.000 I don't have the answer to the gun problem and mass shootings. 0.78

00:33:28.000 I don't want to take guns away from law abiding citizens.

00:33:30.000 Many people in my life own guns, but we must have a serious, but we have a serious problem and we must start talking about gun violence solutions in a bipartisan way.

00:33:38.000 This is what we call a reasonable tweet, like a thing a reasonable person would say to another reasonable person.

00:33:43.000 So Dana Lash, who used to be a spokesperson for the NRA, and now she's a radio host, right?

00:33:48.000 She's a radio host now, that's what she does, because she's no longer with the NRA.

00:33:51.000 She tweeted out, we have to penalize agencies that do not submit all prohibited cases to NCIC.

00:33:55.000 That'd be the Federal Registry.

00:33:58.000 Charleston, Sutherland Springs, those are examples of where the local agencies did not submit the proper reports to the national database.

00:34:06.000 She says they're not following the law.

00:34:08.000 Also, we need to stop coddling dangerous offenders in their youth by preventing establishment of criminal record.

00:34:12.000 And she points out Dayton, Ohio and Parkland, Florida.

00:34:15.000 And these are cases where young people who are under the age of 18.

00:34:20.000 have done bad things in their past criminal things.

00:34:22.000 And then we have no registry of that, so that the cops cannot remove them of their guns.

00:34:25.000 And Andy Lassner tweets back, well, this is definitely a start.

00:34:28.000 Okay, this is what we call a reasonable conversation, where Andy Lassner says, you know, it'd be great, some solutions.

00:34:32.000 And then Dana comes back and says, here are a couple of things.

00:34:34.000 And he says, this is a good idea.

00:34:36.000 Aaron Rupar, an alleged reporter for Vox.com, immediately tweets out, quote, it's silly to earnestly engage with a former paid NRA gun show on the topic of preventing gun violence.

00:34:47.000 First of all, you want to talk of paid shills?

00:34:49.000 Dude works for Vox.

00:34:50.000 Second of all, it's silly to earnestly engage?

00:34:54.000 Like, you can't have a conversation with anybody?

00:34:57.000 If you have a conversation, you're a very bad person?

00:35:00.000 The way that the left would like to treat people on the right.

00:35:02.000 This is why we can't have any sort of regulations that rely on public trust, because the public trust is gone.

00:35:07.000 If you treat your neighbor like they are a leper from the leper colony in Papillon, the original, that if you get in, that if you talk, if Andy Lassner talks with Dana Lash, then Dana Lash is like a leprous character, and she's going to infect him with her leprosy.

00:35:22.000 And Aaron Rupar is there to police the boundary.

00:35:24.000 He's there to stop you from having that conversation.

00:35:27.000 Why the hell would I allow people like Aaron Rupert to control regulations or legislation?

00:35:32.000 Why would I trust a neighbor like Aaron Rupert?

00:35:34.000 Why would I do that?

00:35:35.000 The answer is, I would not.

00:35:37.000 And most Americans would not.

00:35:39.000 And it's true in journalism, right, that you have this whole This whole cadre of alleged journalists whose sole job it is apparently to prevent conversation from happening between moderate left and moderate right.

00:35:51.000 To prevent any sort of discussion from happening.

00:35:53.000 If you have that person on your podcast, then you are a bad man. 0.81

00:35:57.000 You're a bad person.

00:35:59.000 If you have a conversation with that person, you're a bad person. 0.99

00:36:01.000 If you say maybe that person's well-intentioned, you're a bad person.

00:36:05.000 That's the same thing in Hollywood.

00:36:06.000 So now, as I say, it's in journalism and it's also in Hollywood.

00:36:09.000 Lassner is in Hollywood, so that means that Ruppar thinks he's subject to his blackmail.

00:36:13.000 And he's not subject to anybody's blackmail.

00:36:15.000 He's his own thinker. 0.98

00:36:16.000 It's ridiculous. 0.95

00:36:17.000 OK, but it's not just that. 0.64

00:36:18.000 You had Will and Grace, the stars of Will and Grace over the weekend, come out and suggest that they wanted the names of anybody in Hollywood who supported Trump.

00:36:25.000 So now we are going the full Joaquin Castro in Texas route.

00:36:28.000 You remember Joaquin Castro, the representative in Texas?

00:36:31.000 He tweeted out the names of all the Trump donors in his district, half of whom supported him too. 1.00

00:36:35.000 Because he's a jerk. 0.99

00:36:37.000 So the Hollywood Reporter tweeted out President Donald Trump to appear at Beverly Hills Fundraiser during Emmys week. 1.00

00:36:42.000 Now, I happen to know some of the people who are going to this fundraiser, because I know most of the prominent Republicans in the city.

00:36:47.000 Eric McCormick, who is one of the actors on Will & Grace, and he's also the guy from Travelers, if you've seen that, on Netflix.

00:36:55.000 Hey, Hollywood Reporter, kindly report on everyone attending this event so the rest of us can be clear about who we don't want to work with.

00:37:01.000 Thanks.

00:37:03.000 In other words, I want to blackmail everybody who disagrees with me politically.

00:37:05.000 If anybody gives money to Donald Trump, I will never work with them ever, ever, ever again.

00:37:10.000 Yeah, I trust you guys to be part of the common community where we trust each other, and we don't call the authorities unless we need to, and we never use the power of the government gun to point it at our friends.

00:37:20.000 I definitely trust you guys.

00:37:22.000 And Debra Messing, also of Will & Grace, then tweets out, Please print a list of all attendees, please.

00:37:26.000 The public has a right to know.

00:37:28.000 The public has a right to know how delightful she is.

00:37:31.000 I mean, what delightful people these folks are.

00:37:34.000 President Trump then tweeted his own response.

00:37:35.000 He says, I have not forgotten that when it was announced that I was going to do The Apprentice and when it became a big hit, helping NBC's failed lineup greatly, Deborah Messing came up to me at an upfront and profusely thanked me, even calling me sir.

00:37:48.000 How times have changed.

00:37:52.000 One of the things that drives Hollywood so nuts about Trump is that they created him. 0.80

00:37:55.000 He is their Frankenstein monster.

00:37:57.000 Donald Trump was basically a D-list celebrity until The Apprentice.

00:38:01.000 And then The Apprentice happens and he becomes an A-list celebrity again and he's appearing on the Emmys singing Green Acres with one of the stars of Will & Grace, Megan Mullally.

00:38:10.000 So that's pretty ironic and pretty hilarious.

00:38:13.000 The larger point is that you cannot have a community or a republic in which people are forbidden from having conversations with each other and where people are deliberately attempting to destroy each other's lives.

00:38:24.000 So here is another example of this outside of Hollywood.

00:38:27.000 So there's this couple named Carl and Angel Larson.

00:38:32.000 And this couple is now in the middle of a lawsuit, a federal appeals court lawsuit just reinstated A lawsuit filed by these two Minnesota filmmakers.

00:38:44.000 They want the right to refuse to film same-sex weddings.

00:38:46.000 They said that videos are a form of speech with constitutional protections under the First Amendment.

00:38:50.000 So Carl and Angel Larson run a Christian business called Telescope Media Group in St.

00:38:53.000 Cloud, is according to the AP.

00:38:55.000 They sued the state's Human Rights Commissioner in 2016, saying Minnesota's public accommodation law would result in steep fines and jail time if they offered services promoting only their vision of marriage.

00:39:05.000 So they're videographers, they only do traditional marriages, and the state of Minnesota basically threatened them with jail if they would not create videos on behalf of same-sex couples.

00:39:16.000 Because this is America, guys, and we can't have people creating the videos they want to create.

00:39:20.000 A federal judge dismissed the case two years ago, but a three-judge panel of the 8th U.S.

00:39:24.000 Circuit Court of Appeals reversed that decision on Friday.

00:39:27.000 The panel sent the case back to the lower court with instructions to consider a preliminary injunction that would allow the Larsons to operate their business without fear of being found in violation of Minnesota's Human Rights Act, according to the Star Tribune.

00:39:39.000 Judge David Strass is a former Minnesota Supreme Court Justice.

00:39:41.000 He wrote in Friday's opinion that wedding videos involve editorial judgment and control and constituted a media for the communication of ideas, which is obviously true.

00:39:49.000 Judge Jane Kelly issued a dissenting opinion.

00:39:51.000 She said that the service the Larsons want to make available to the public is expressive, does not transform Minnesota's law into a content-based regulation, nor should it empower the Larsons to discriminate against prospective customers based on sexual orientation.

00:40:04.000 It's another perfect example of neighbors not leaving each other alone.

00:40:08.000 Hey, the Republic relies on neighbors leaving each other alone.

00:40:11.000 If we don't leave each other alone, it's going to be extraordinarily difficult for us to have any common politics at all.

00:40:17.000 And this is what we are watching in action.

00:40:19.000 This is why politics continue to become so partisan.

00:40:21.000 Because if I don't trust you and you don't trust me, and the only question is who gets to control the gun, That shoots the other guy?

00:40:28.000 Well, then politics is basically bloodsport. 0.82

00:40:31.000 Now, speaking of bloodsport, you want to know somebody for whom politics has become bloodsport is Elizabeth Warren. 1.00

00:40:35.000 So, Senator Warren is obviously running strong in the Democratic primaries right now.

00:40:40.000 Not quite as strong as I think a lot of the media would have it.

00:40:44.000 By which I mean that if you look at the poll averages right now nationally, she is still running third.

00:40:48.000 There's a lot of talk about her being the new frontrunner.

00:40:52.000 The polls are pretty conflicted about that.

00:40:53.000 There are a couple of polls that came out in the last week.

00:40:56.000 The last two polls had Joe Biden up 7 points and Joe Biden up 4 points, respectively.

00:41:00.000 Only one of those polls had Elizabeth Warren in second place. 0.66

00:41:03.000 That was the Economist YouGov poll that had Biden up over her 25 to 21.

00:41:08.000 The Emerson poll had her down in third, trailing Joe Biden by 16 points.

00:41:12.000 In fact, on average, in the last maybe 7 or 8 polls, she's down somewhere between 13 and 17 points to Joe Biden in most of these polls.

00:41:22.000 So for all the talk about her being the new frontrunner, that is a little premature.

00:41:25.000 However, it is sort of fascinating to watch Elizabeth Warren's transformation as a candidate. 0.90

00:41:31.000 I've only met Elizabeth Warren one time.

00:41:33.000 I audited her class when I was at Harvard Law, and I was like, this isn't for me.

00:41:36.000 She used to teach property. 1.00

00:41:37.000 But I did take a sample class with her when I was at Harvard Law School.

00:41:40.000 She was a good teacher.

00:41:41.000 I mean, I will say that she was very live in the classroom.

00:41:43.000 She was very charismatic in the classroom.

00:41:46.000 The very first time I met her, I've told this story before, I met her when she was recruiting for Harvard Law School.

00:41:50.000 It was at the top of the W Hotel, very swanky, in Los Angeles, near the Westwood campus.

00:41:55.000 And I went up there and she was sort of wandering around meeting all the students.

00:41:58.000 And she realized that I was the guy who had written a book about college bias on campus.

00:42:01.000 And she had said, well, I don't really think that there is liberal bias on college campus.

00:42:04.000 Are you sure that's the case?

00:42:06.000 And I was like, yeah, that's the case.

00:42:07.000 And she said, oh, you're one of those Rush Limbaugh listeners, aren't you?

00:42:09.000 And I said, have you ever listened to Rush Limbaugh?

00:42:11.000 And she was like, no.

00:42:12.000 So that's sort of how our conversation started.

00:42:14.000 That was the only really lengthy conversation I ever had with now-Senator Warren.

00:42:18.000 But here's the thing.

00:42:19.000 Way back in 2003-2004, which is when I met her, she was a much more interesting thinker.

00:42:25.000 So this is the thing to understand about Elizabeth Warren.

00:42:27.000 that because our politics now revolves around demonizing other people and government control, heterodox thinkers like Elizabeth Warren circa 2003 are no longer tolerated by homogenous thinkers circa Elizabeth Warren 2019.

00:42:42.000 Elizabeth Warren 2019 is not Elizabeth Warren 2003.

00:42:45.000 How do I know?

00:42:46.000 Well, over the weekend, I read her book.

00:42:47.000 She wrote this very famous book called The Two Income Trap in 2003.

00:42:50.000 And the book is actually really, really interesting.

00:42:53.000 She used to be sort of an interesting thinker.

00:42:54.000 The two income trap is premised on this basic idea, which is that the number of females who had who had gone into bankruptcy had risen spectacularly over the past two or three decades, which she found kind of shocking because she figured, OK, well, it really should be a lot of males going into bankruptcy. which she found kind of shocking because she figured, OK, Yeah.

00:43:13.000 After all, more females are entering the workforce, particularly mothers.

00:43:16.000 And it wasn't just single moms. 0.99

00:43:18.000 It was married moms who were going into bankruptcy. 1.00

00:43:21.000 What she found is that there was something called the two income trap happening.

00:43:24.000 The two income trap was basically a lot of women entered the workforce with the guarantee that they would now have two incomes in the family, which meant more money for everybody. 0.97

00:43:31.000 And then what would happen is one person, they would then take out expenses that were commensurate with the combined salary of the couple.

00:43:38.000 So let's say one half of the couple is making 50 grand, the other is making 50 grand, their combined income is now 100 grand.

00:43:44.000 So they take out a mortgage on a house, That is commensurate with 100 grand income, and then one of them loses their job.

00:43:50.000 Well, now they're in bankruptcy.

00:43:52.000 So her actual point is that the same did not hold true if you had one income.

00:43:56.000 So you have one income that's 50 grand and you take out expenses commensurate with that 50 grand, including getting a smaller house.

00:44:02.000 Then the husband loses his job.

00:44:04.000 We have a backup earner sort of in store in the woman. 1.00

00:44:06.000 She would then enter the workforce and she'd make up like 60% of the salary while dad was looking for a job.

00:44:11.000 Whereas if you are living on the edge of two salaries and there's no backup plan, you're basically screwed.

00:44:16.000 That was the two income trap. 0.92

00:44:17.000 And her suggestion was that so many women had entered the workforce that it had artificially increased prices on things like housing, particularly in the suburbs. 1.00

00:44:26.000 It's a really interesting sort of take, right?

00:44:27.000 I mean, she's not arguing women shouldn't be in the workforce, but she is arguing that women in the workforce does have an enormous number of unintended consequences and that maybe the couples that are best situated are actually the ones where only one member of the family is working.

00:44:42.000 Because you're only going to take out expenses commensurate with one salary.

00:44:45.000 A really, really interesting take.

00:44:46.000 And not only is that take pretty interesting, she also talks about specific policy proposals.

00:44:52.000 And her policy proposals are fairly interesting, including some fairly right-wing policy proposals.

00:45:00.000 Right, she argued explicitly against more government regulation of the housing market.

00:45:04.000 She slammed complex regulations since they, quote, might actually worsen the situation by diminishing the incentive to build new houses or improve older ones. 0.99

00:45:12.000 Weird, because now her entire party is calling for rent control and government subsidized housing. 0.83

00:45:17.000 Right, she favored against, instead of trying to place restrictions on housing building and caps on prices, she suggested a well-designed voucher program.

00:45:29.000 That's right, Elizabeth Warren used to be a big fan of school vouchers, because she pointed out the reason that people were moving into suburbs was to get to better schools. 0.94

00:45:37.000 And if you had school vouchers, then people from inner cities could actually go to those better schools, and that would allow more free transport of people to better schools, and that would bring down overall real estate prices.

00:45:47.000 That's a very right-wing proposal.

00:45:50.000 The heterodox policy proposals didn't actually stop there.

00:45:52.000 She refused to, quote, join the chorus calling for taxpayer-funded daycare on its own.

00:45:59.000 Right now, she says, oh, we need taxpayer-funded daycare for everybody.

00:46:01.000 It's a great idea.

00:46:02.000 It'll work out great.

00:46:03.000 She actually called that a sacred cow in 2003.

00:46:06.000 At the very least, she suggested that, quote, government-subsidized daycare would add one more indirect pressure on mothers to join the workforce. 1.00

00:46:12.000 In other words, it removed the incentive for mom to stay home if the government was actually subsidizing daycare. 0.85

00:46:18.000 So she suggested that it would have to be part of a broader comprehensive program, including tax credits for stay-at-home parents.

00:46:24.000 In fact, she ardently opposed additional taxpayer subsidization of college loans.

00:46:29.000 She said that we should not be subsidizing college loans.

00:46:31.000 No more.

00:46:32.000 Like now, she proposes that we remove all student debt, right?

00:46:34.000 We pay off everybody's college loans.

00:46:36.000 And now, she's coming out and then she was saying no taxpayer subsidization of college loans and no taxpayer spending on higher education directly.

00:46:45.000 Instead, she called for a tuition freeze from state schools.

00:46:49.000 She also recommended tax incentives for families to save rather than spend.

00:46:53.000 Now she calls for a wealth tax. 1.00

00:46:54.000 And now she said, she said then that it would be income graduated, it would be wealth graduated.

00:46:59.000 But it cuts against the basic idea, right?

00:47:02.000 She wants to actually incentivize saving. 0.99

00:47:03.000 Now she wants to penalize savings. 1.00

00:47:06.000 And this is my favorite quote from her book.

00:47:08.000 She opposed radical solutions wholesale.

00:47:09.000 This is a direct quote from Elizabeth Warren circa 2003.

00:47:11.000 Secretary 2003 quote, we haven't suggested a complete overhaul of the tax structure.

00:47:14.000 We haven't demanded that businesses cease and desist from ever closing another plant or firing another worker, nor have we suggested that the United States should build a quasi socialist safety net to rival the European model.

00:47:25.000 Direct quote from Elizabeth Warren 2003.

00:47:27.000 Does this sound like Elizabeth Warren 2019?

00:47:30.000 No, it doesn't.

00:47:31.000 She wrote a new intro for this book in 2016 with her daughter, because the book is written with her daughter, and now it is just boilerplate Democratic pap.

00:47:38.000 Why?

00:47:39.000 Because Elizabeth Warren understands that creative solutions are not possible in a country where we don't trust one another.

00:47:46.000 That when you mistrust your neighbor, that the only solution is absolute power.

00:47:50.000 And so Elizabeth Warren has opted for absolute power, just like the rest of the Democratic Party. 1.00

00:47:55.000 She has opted for top-down government control in every area because half the solutions she's calling for rely on you trusting your neighbor and suggesting your neighbor isn't a bad person.

00:48:03.000 So she has jettisoned that. 0.77

00:48:04.000 Now, she is in full-scale, your neighbor's a bad person territory. 0.91

00:48:07.000 And if they stray, then we clock them.

00:48:11.000 That is not an inherently sympathetic position to other Americans.

00:48:14.000 It's amazing that so many on the left can portray themselves as sympathetic to their fellow Americans, when their actual proposal is that other Americans for making free choices ought to be punished in a general way, and the government ought to cram down.

00:48:26.000 And if you even have conversations across the aisle in the most extreme cases of the left, then you should be punished just for those conversations.

00:48:33.000 Elizabeth Warren used to be an interesting character. 1.00

00:48:35.000 She's no longer interesting, which is why she's now seen as a front runner for the Democratic Party nomination. 1.00

00:48:40.000 Elizabeth Warren circa 2003 was actually kind of interesting.

00:48:44.000 2019, she's boring as mud. 1.00

00:48:45.000 Her new ideas are Bernie Sanders' ideas, and they're just as bad. 0.54

00:48:50.000 Okay, time for a quick thing I like, and then a quick thing that I hate.

00:48:54.000 Okay, so things that I like today.

00:48:57.000 So, I have to give credit to this Florida man.

00:48:59.000 There's always a Florida man.

00:49:00.000 And he was talking about how to fight hurricanes.

00:49:02.000 And he was suggesting, well, you know, people keep saying that warming waters are making the velocity of hurricanes faster because it's easier for the hurricane to churn off of the top layer of water because of the water temperature.

00:49:13.000 He has an idea.

00:49:14.000 Let him spell it out for you.

00:49:16.000 I see how they haven't come up with some kind of way to combat these storms yet.

00:49:23.000 They keep saying, you know, two days ago, three days ago, oh it's just, but it's going to hit all this warm weather.

00:49:29.000 All this warm weather and warm water.

00:49:33.000 We have a Navy.

00:49:34.000 Why don't the Navy come and drop ice in the warm water so that it can't get going as fast as it's going. 0.99

00:49:41.000 Oh, it's the warm weather.

00:49:42.000 Oh, it's the wind.

00:49:43.000 Well, we have an air force.

00:49:45.000 Drive some air force planes around to get the winds going the opposite way.

00:49:49.000 Um, yeah.

00:49:50.000 So that's a solution.

00:49:52.000 I mean, listen, we can make fun of this guy all day, but we know he'll be president by 2024, so we should really watch ourselves here.

00:49:57.000 I mean, at the very least, it's a better solution than nuking the hurricane.

00:50:01.000 So, I mean, I'm not against it.

00:50:03.000 Maybe that was President Trump's original plan.

00:50:07.000 He was actually going to buy Greenland, and then he was going to ship it.

00:50:10.000 I don't know.

00:50:11.000 You don't know.

00:50:11.000 glacier into the hurricane pathway just to stop those hurricanes.

00:50:15.000 You don't know.

00:50:15.000 I don't know.

00:50:16.000 He's a creative thinker.

00:50:17.000 Okay.

00:50:18.000 Other things that I like today.

00:50:19.000 So there is a very good editorial in the Washington Post today by a Chinese dissident named Chen Guangcheng.

00:50:25.000 He's a member of the faculty of the Institute for Policy Research and Catholic Studies at the Catholic University of America.

00:50:30.000 And he talks about President Trump and his stance against China.

00:50:33.000 He says, as someone who has spent years with the knife edge of the Chinese Communist Party bearing down on my throat for my human rights work, I know the president is on to something. 0.96

00:50:41.000 Tariffs and economic threats may be blunt tools, but they are the kind of aggressive tactics necessary to get the attention of the CCP regime, which respects only power and money.

00:50:49.000 It's not just about winning, as the president sometimes puts it, and it's not simply about trade.

00:50:53.000 It's about justice.

00:50:54.000 It's about doing what's right for ordinary Chinese and American people.

00:50:58.000 Presidents before Trump naively believed that China would abide by international standards of behavior if it were granted access to institutions like the WTO, and generally treated as a normal country.

00:51:08.000 But that path proved mistaken.

00:51:10.000 Beijing ignored Western pressure on matters from human rights to the widespread theft of intellectual property.

00:51:14.000 Trump, whatever his flaws, grasps this reality.

00:51:17.000 That is the truth, and the media basically refused to acknowledge it, so at least good for the Washington Post for printing this particular op-ed by Chen Guangcheng.

00:51:25.000 You know, I think we are actually out of time.

00:51:26.000 So we're going to skip the things that I hate today because it's a love-filled day, guys.

00:51:30.000 And we'll be back here a little bit later today with many more things that I hate, two additional hours of things that I hate later today.

00:51:35.000 Or we'll see you here tomorrow.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - September 03, 2019

Red Flags Everywhere | Ep. 852

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