The Ben Shapiro Show - May 07, 2018


Rule Of Law? | Ep. 533

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John Kerry violates the Logan Act, Rudy Giuliani makes the rounds, and there s a reason that people think that feminist studies professors are all sticks in the mud. Ben Shapiro's take on it all on this episode of The Ben Shapiro Show, in which he explains why John Kerry should never be allowed to have his own foreign policy on U.S. soil, and why he should never have been allowed to do anything like that in the first place. Plus, a woman catches a strange man breaking into her house, and a man breaks into her home while she's in the middle of having dinner with her family, and she calls the police on the intruder. Thanks to Ring for sponsoring the show! Save up to $150 off that Ring of security kit at Ring. We use it at The Shapiro Household, where you don't have to deal face-to-face with Justin, you can actually deal with it from 3,000 miles away. Save $150 on that Ring Ring of Security Kit at the Shapiro household! Subscribe to our new partner, Ring, and get 10% off your first purchase when you place an order through the link below! Use code: CRIMINALS at checkout to save $150 and get an additional $5 off your purchase when they begin shipping on your first order of $35 or more! Links From This Episode: The Shapiro Show Podcast: This episode was produced and edited by Ben Shapiro All Rights Reserved This Episode was produced in partnership with The Daily Wire Our theme song was written by Ian Dorsch@ and produced by . Thank you for all of the work done by by my good friend, by , , and Thanks for all your support and support in the podcasting greats, and by our wonderful listeners thanks to & asmr_and is to the amazing at @ thank you, for making this podcast, Ben on this podcasting - Ben in this episode, and , @ and @ , & @_ . . and all of my love, , all of all of your support is , Thank you so much out there can do , thanks , thank you , my thanks, thanks

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00:00:00.000 John Kerry violates the Logan Act, Rudy Giuliani makes the rounds, and there's a reason that people think that feminist studies professors are all sticks in the mud. 1.00
00:00:07.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:08.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:13.000 We have a lot to get to today, but before we get to any of it, I mean, a lot happened over the weekend.
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00:01:29.000 Alright, so, over the weekend there was a lot of hubbub about the Mueller investigation and the evils of the Trump administration and the supposed dishonesty therein.
00:01:44.000 But there's another story that the media seemed to have been paying less attention to, but that is, in fact, a lot more troubling.
00:01:50.000 And it is this.
00:01:51.000 John Kerry, you recall him, he's the former Secretary of State.
00:01:54.000 And that guy is the worst.
00:01:55.000 Right?
00:01:55.000 John Kerry was one of the worst Secretary of States of all time.
00:01:58.000 John Kerry.
00:02:00.000 Well, according to the Boston Globe, he has now been traveling across the world attempting to fix up the Iran deal.
00:02:06.000 Like, really.
00:02:07.000 He's not the Secretary of State anymore.
00:02:08.000 He's just a guy.
00:02:09.000 And he's going around the world.
00:02:10.000 He's going to Tehran.
00:02:11.000 He's going to France.
00:02:12.000 And he's trying to move behind the back of the Trump administration in order to broker some sort of resistance to Donald Trump.
00:02:18.000 So, here's the Boston Globe.
00:02:24.000 Took him to New York on a Sunday afternoon two weeks ago, where more than a year after he left office, he engaged in some unusual shadow diplomacy with a top-ranking Iranian official.
00:02:32.000 Now, just before I go any further, let's recall something.
00:02:34.000 You remember Mike Flynn?
00:02:35.000 Mike Flynn was the former National Security Advisor.
00:02:38.000 And you remember that Mike Flynn got in all sorts of trouble because he lied to the FBI about the fact that he had been calling up the Russians after the election.
00:02:45.000 And just as before he was supposed to take his official role as National Security Advisor, he'd been calling up the Russian ambassador and having conversations about sanctions with regard to Israel.
00:02:54.000 And this was a big deal, right?
00:02:55.000 This was supposedly a Logan Act violation.
00:02:57.000 The Logan Act is a piece of legislation that may very well be unconstitutional.
00:03:01.000 It's about two centuries old.
00:03:02.000 It's been invoked, I believe, once in a criminal prosecution.
00:03:05.000 And it is that you are not allowed to have your own foreign policy.
00:03:07.000 So I can't go and purport to be speaking on behalf of the United States government and go conduct
00:03:12.000 We're good to go.
00:03:30.000 Here you have an actual former Secretary of State who is not in any way connected with the current government of the United States, going around and attempting to perform his own foreign policy on foreign soil as well as domestic soil.
00:03:43.000 He sat down at the United Nations with Foreign Minister Javad Zarif, who is the Foreign Minister of Iran, to discuss ways of preserving the pact limiting Iran's nuclear weapons program.
00:03:50.000 It was the second time in about two months the two had met to strategize over salvaging a deal they spent years negotiating during the Obama administration, according to a person briefed on the meetings.
00:03:59.000 With the Iran deal facing its gravest threat since it was signed in 2015, Kerry has been on an aggressive yet stealthy mission to preserve it, using his deep lists of contacts gleaned during his time as the top U.S.
00:04:08.000 diplomat to try to apply pressure on the Trump administration from the outside.
00:04:12.000 Trump is now firing back, by the way, on Kerry.
00:04:15.000 Kerry met last month with the German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier.
00:04:18.000 He's been on the phone with top EU official Federica
00:04:21.000 Okay, but this has gone relatively unremarked upon by the mainstream media.
00:04:24.000 Remember, again, Mike Flynn might end up in jail because he supposedly lied about
00:04:42.000 Doing something that was completely not illegal.
00:04:45.000 But John Kerry is doing the same thing except it could very well be illegal and that is not a big deal at all.
00:04:50.000 So Donald Trump has responded now to John Kerry and Donald Trump tweeted out,
00:05:02.000 Totally fair.
00:05:03.000 John Kerry has fired back, quote,
00:05:21.000 He continues to suggest that it is his job to do foreign policy.
00:05:29.000 Again, just pointing out the hypocrisy of a left that suggested that Michael Flynn was the world's worst criminal for calling the Russians well.
00:05:35.000 He was the incoming national security advisor, but the former Secretary of State can do whatever he wants.
00:05:39.000 Rudy Giuliani made this point on national TV over the weekend.
00:05:42.000 He is, of course, exactly correct.
00:05:43.000 Certainly before April 5, 2018, the president knew that Michael Cohen had made these payments because he, in fact, had reimbursed Michael Cohen for them.
00:05:50.000 I don't know, and I don't think it's at all relevant anymore.
00:05:53.000 This is another tangent like, you know, chasing the Flynn tangent, when it turns out that John Kerry is now violating the Logan Act, and nobody seems to care.
00:06:01.000 You haven't asked me about it.
00:06:02.000 Right, and then Giuliani is exactly right about this.
00:06:04.000 Nobody's asked him about the Kerry-Logan Act violation, of course.
00:06:08.000 By the way, we're now finding out the FBI is not interested in investigating the text sent between Carter Page and Lisa—sorry, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.
00:06:18.000 So there's no interest in investigating the text of the FBI agents who apparently were texting with each other while they were having an affair.
00:06:25.000 Both were married about Donald Trump and the investigation.
00:06:28.000 No interest in that.
00:06:29.000 But every page of Donald Trump's memoirs has to be dug through.
00:06:32.000 Michael Cohen has to be dug out of the closet.
00:06:35.000 All of his files have to be put before the FBI.
00:06:37.000 Again, if this all turns out to be just a campaign finance thing, this is really egregious overstep by the FBI.
00:06:42.000 If the Mueller investigation turns out to be nothing but a giant fishing expedition, that is going to reflect horribly, not only on the FBI, but also on the DOJ that has allowed this to go forward.
00:06:52.000 Remember, Rod Rosenstein.
00:06:53.000 Who was the Deputy Attorney General who appointed Robert Mueller.
00:06:56.000 He has to set the basis for the Mueller investigation.
00:06:59.000 He actually has to set the limits of the Mueller investigation.
00:07:02.000 And the Mueller investigation was originally supposed to be limited to Trump-Russia collusion and all of the elements that were related there too.
00:07:08.000 But now we're all the way at Michael Cohen and Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort and all this kind of stuff.
00:07:13.000 Now judges are beginning to look at the scope of the Mueller investigation and they're saying, this has nothing to do with your original investigation.
00:07:19.000 Now, does that mean that Paul Manafort, for example, is off the hook?
00:07:21.000 No, you could have an attorney general in the District of New York suddenly take up the Manafort case.
00:07:26.000 But the question is, what is the scope, the proper scope of the Mueller investigation?
00:07:30.000 And again, when you go back and you read the original Rosenstein memo that was appointing Robert Mueller to the special counsel, it was quite
00:07:38.000 It was quite circumscribed.
00:07:39.000 It was not a broad mandate.
00:07:41.000 It was Trump-Russia collusion alone.
00:07:42.000 But now they've gone far beyond that, and that's why over the weekend, according to Politico, a federal judge has rejected special counsel Robert Mueller's request to delay the first court hearing in a criminal case charging three Russian companies and 13 Russian citizens with using social media and other means to foment strife among Americans in advance of the 2016 U.S.
00:07:59.000 presidential election.
00:08:00.000 In a brief order Saturday evening,
00:08:02.000 U.S.
00:08:02.000 District Court Judge Dabney Friedrich offered no explanation for her decision to deny a request prosecutors made Friday to put off a scheduled Wednesday arraignment for Concord Management and Consulting, one of the three firms charged in the case.
00:08:15.000 So, the 13 people charged in the high-profile indictment in February are considered unlikely to ever appear in a U.S.
00:08:20.000 court, and the judges are looking askance at Mueller's prosecutors.
00:08:24.000 They're saying that Mueller's prosecutors do not have the authority to actually go after anyone on these grounds.
00:08:30.000 Mueller's team sends a formal copy of the sanctions to all these people, and then they submitted it to the judge, and the judge is not interested.
00:08:33.000 The judge is basically saying that this is a waste of time, that there is no supporting legal authority to any of this.
00:08:58.000 Again, if this all turns out to be a giant wild goose chase, it's one of the worst abuses of power in modern American history, honestly.
00:09:05.000 To run the presidency ragged for a year and a half and bankrupt a bunch of people in the Trump administration over nothing is a pretty astonishing thing.
00:09:13.000 Meanwhile, the Michael Cohen investigation, which is not taking place under the auspices of Mueller, is continuing apace.
00:09:18.000 That, of course, was an FBI raid on Michael Cohen's office.
00:09:21.000 Michael Cohen, you'll recall, is the personal attorney of President Trump, and that investigation is being pursued not by Mueller's office, but by the U.S.
00:09:28.000 District Attorney in the Southern District of New York.
00:09:33.000 Trump's new lawyer is attempting to go around and explain why Trump didn't do anything illegal.
00:09:37.000 The case he's making for why Trump didn't do anything illegal is he's saying there was no campaign finance implication at all to Trump paying Stormy Daniels $130,000 to shut up.
00:09:45.000 He says, basically, Trump has a slush fund with Michael Cohen.
00:09:47.000 There are probably payments out of this fund regularly to shut up stories about Donald Trump, which means this had nothing to do with the campaign.
00:09:54.000 So it may be gross, it may be seedy, it may be yucky, but it's not actually a violation of law.
00:09:58.000 That's the case that Rudy was making.
00:10:00.000 You said this was a regular arrangement you had with Michael Cohen.
00:10:02.000 So did Michael Cohen make payments to other women for the president? 1.00
00:10:05.000 I have no knowledge of that, but I would think if it was necessary, yes.
00:10:11.000 He made payments for the president, or he conducted business for the president, which means he had legal fees, monies laid out, and expenditures, which I have on my bills to my clients.
00:10:22.000 OK, so the case that Giuliani is making legally here, people are going crazy over this.
00:10:26.000 Kellyanne Conway saying, I'm not sure why anyone would say what Giuliani is saying.
00:10:30.000 Here's Kellyanne Conway trying to move away from Rudy Giuliani. 1.00
00:10:33.000 But Giuliani has a legal strategy here, and it does make some sense.
00:10:35.000 I'll explain in a second.
00:10:37.000 I don't know why anyone would say that.
00:10:39.000 I would not characterize it the way the president himself characterized it as not a campaign expenditure.
00:10:43.000 All I can tell you is that as the campaign manager for the winning part of the campaign, this never crossed my desk.
00:10:50.000 I was never made aware of this.
00:10:52.000 Okay, so the case that's being made by Giuliani, and sort of here by Kellyanne Conway, is that Trump regularly pays off his mistresses.
00:10:59.000 And so, if he paid off a mistress right before the election, that was by coincidence, because he basically gives a giant chunk of change to Michael Cohen every year, and Michael Cohen basically shuts down any rumors that he's having sex with porn stars.
00:11:09.000 That's Michael Cohen's basic job.
00:11:10.000 That's not completely implausible, but it is not great for the President of the United States to be saying that, except that it's Trump and we all know that he's doing this stuff anyway.
00:11:18.000 No one's really shocked by any of this.
00:11:19.000 And if you are shocked, it's because you haven't watched Donald Trump any time for the last 40 years.
00:11:23.000 I mean, this has been his shtick for a really long time.
00:11:26.000 The real danger to Trump, you know, if he can make this case, then it's not a danger to Trump.
00:11:31.000 The real danger to Trump is only going to be self-imposed, and I'll explain in a second why the only person who can damage Trump in a lot of these legal proceedings is going to be Trump himself.
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00:12:59.000 Okay, so the only person who can really damage Trump, it seems, if Trump is telling the truth and he had this giant slush fund and he was always paying off mistresses,
00:13:06.000 Then the Cohen thing will probably come to nothing.
00:13:08.000 Cohen might be hit with a campaign finance violation, but that's about it.
00:13:11.000 Cohen might be hit for some ancillary violations, but it's not going to damage Trump.
00:13:15.000 Which brings us back to the Mueller investigation.
00:13:16.000 The only thing that could hurt President Trump in the Mueller investigation is if he goes off half-cocked and decides that it would be a very, very smart idea for him to suddenly, for no reason at all, fire Robert Mueller because Mueller's not going anywhere and he's annoying me.
00:13:29.000 I'm going to rip off the band-aid and fire him.
00:13:30.000 That would be a huge mistake.
00:13:32.000 And it seems like that might be the way that he is leaning.
00:13:35.000 A lot of his closest allies are now attempting to put restrictions on the Mueller investigation.
00:13:40.000 Again, I think this is a mistake, not because the Mueller investigation is acting properly.
00:13:44.000 I don't know.
00:13:44.000 You don't know.
00:13:45.000 No one knows because we're only hearing leaks.
00:13:47.000 But because it gives the impression that he's trying to hide something, even if he's really just annoyed.
00:13:52.000 Trump fires people when he gets annoyed.
00:13:53.000 He doesn't fire them when they're ineffective.
00:13:55.000 He doesn't fire them when they're bad at their job.
00:13:57.000 He fires them when he personally is annoyed by them.
00:13:59.000 And this is the case with James Comey.
00:14:01.000 Now it's the case with Robert Mueller.
00:14:03.000 But you can see that the groundwork is being set by certain members of the Trump administration to do this.
00:14:07.000 So here's Rudy, Trump's lawyer again, who's saying, you know, if Mueller grants, if he sends a subpoena, if there's a grand jury subpoena for President Trump to testify, Trump does not have to comply.
00:14:16.000 What happens if Robert Mueller subpoenas the president?
00:14:18.000 Will you comply?
00:14:19.000 Well, we don't have to.
00:14:21.000 He's the president of the United States.
00:14:23.000 We can assert the same privileges other presidents have.
00:14:25.000 President Clinton negotiated a deal in which he didn't admit the effectiveness of the subpoena.
00:14:31.000 They withdrew it.
00:14:32.000 But he did testify before the grand jury.
00:14:34.000 Is the president willing to do that?
00:14:35.000 But only for two and a half hours?
00:14:38.000 Only with an arranged format?
00:14:40.000 Okay, so, Rudy's wrong.
00:14:42.000 Trump will comply with the subpoena if the subpoena comes down, because otherwise he'll be held in contempt of court, presumably.
00:14:47.000 It could create all sorts of legal problems for him.
00:14:49.000 He will go.
00:14:50.000 It will be pre-negotiated, and he will probably testify.
00:14:52.000 But, no guarantee there's going to be a subpoena anyway.
00:14:54.000 It's the militant stance that Rudy is taking against Mueller that's really interesting here.
00:14:58.000 You're seeing this also from Devin Nunes.
00:14:59.000 Devin Nunes, of course,
00:15:01.000 is the House Intelligence Committee chairman, and he's saying that he wants to hold Jeff Sessions in contempt, the Attorney General.
00:15:07.000 He's saying the DOJ is stonewalling Congress on a bunch of material.
00:15:10.000 Now, the DOJ does have an obligation to turn over all that material.
00:15:13.000 Congress is an oversight body for the DOJ, and the DOJ does have to turn over these materials.
00:15:18.000 The DOJ is saying, listen, we don't have to turn over confidential materials in the middle of an investigation, because that doesn't comply with regulation.
00:15:24.000 Nunes is now saying he wants to hold Sessions in contempt.
00:15:26.000 Now, remember, this is Nunes doing Trump's dirty work.
00:15:29.000 Trump doesn't like Sessions.
00:15:29.000 He's angry at Sessions.
00:15:30.000 He believes Sessions never should have recused himself in the first place.
00:15:33.000 So here's Devin Nunes saying, let's hold Sessions in contempt.
00:15:35.000 Remember, Sessions is Trump's own attorney general.
00:15:38.000 Two weeks ago, we sent a letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions, a classified letter.
00:15:44.000 Per usual, it was ignored, not acknowledged, just completely ignored.
00:15:50.000 So last week, we sent a subpoena.
00:15:52.000 And then on Thursday, we discovered that
00:15:54.000 Uh, they are not going to comply with our subpoena on very important information that we need.
00:16:01.000 So what are you gonna do?
00:16:02.000 The only thing left that we can do is we have to move quickly to hold the Attorney General of the United States in contempt.
00:16:08.000 OK, so in just a second, I'm going to show you more evidence that the Trump administration seems to be moving against Mueller and seems to be moving against anyone who would protect Mueller.
00:16:16.000 So, for example, Rudy Giuliani, he comes out yesterday, he says, listen, here's what Trump wants.
00:16:21.000 Trump wants the Hillary Clinton treatment from Robert Mueller. 0.65
00:16:24.000 So Hillary Clinton got kid glove treatment from the FBI and the DOJ. 1.00
00:16:26.000 That's what Trump wants as well.
00:16:28.000 Again, the implication being that if Mueller doesn't give that sort of treatment, then suddenly he's going to turn around and fire Mueller.
00:16:33.000 I'd rather have the Hillary Clinton treatment. 1.00
00:16:36.000 Yeah, I think President Clinton was before the jury, before more than two and a half hours.
00:16:40.000 No, he was two and a half hours in the grand jury.
00:16:44.000 Approximately, maybe three.
00:16:45.000 We'll take three.
00:16:46.000 But Hillary Clinton treatment is what I'm looking for. 1.00
00:16:49.000 And that is, no under oath, only a Q&A, and then we get the questions in advance, and they write the report two weeks before.
00:16:58.000 Okay, so, again, this is, I think, the move that's being made by the Trump administration.
00:17:02.000 Let's shut this thing down. 0.54
00:17:03.000 Right?
00:17:03.000 Shut it down.
00:17:04.000 Shut it down.
00:17:04.000 Now, what's interesting is that the people who have political aspirations inside the Trump administration are not saying quite the same thing, right?
00:17:10.000 Nikki Haley is saying, no, you know, let's let this probe go.
00:17:13.000 And the reason she's saying that is, of course, she doesn't want to be seen as someone who's stonewalling on behalf of the president.
00:17:18.000 I have a feeling there's a Nikki Haley-Donald Trump confrontation coming sometime in the relatively near future here.
00:17:24.000 Here is Haley's statement when asked about the Mueller investigation.
00:17:27.000 Should the president shut it down?
00:17:28.000 No, not at all.
00:17:30.000 I mean, anything that comes like this, it should play its part, it should go through the process, but they need to do it quickly.
00:17:36.000 For the good of the country, this investigation needs to happen quickly.
00:17:39.000 Okay, so this is really, it's interesting, because again, I think Haley is correct, but I think Trump is leaning away from this.
00:17:46.000 Now, there is a danger for Democrats here, too.
00:17:47.000 I've talked about the danger to Trump.
00:17:48.000 If Trump were to fire Mueller, it would look like he was stonewalling, like he was covering something up.
00:17:52.000 There's a danger for Democrats.
00:17:53.000 The Democrats have staked their entire 2018 and 2020 hopes on people hate Trump.
00:17:59.000 Everyone hates Trump so much that we don't have to provide anything in the form of an alternative.
00:18:03.000 We don't have to be good at our jobs.
00:18:05.000 We don't have to have a program.
00:18:06.000 We don't have to have good candidates.
00:18:07.000 All we have to do is just yell and scream about Trump.
00:18:10.000 This is not going to work.
00:18:11.000 Right now, they are staking a lot of 2018 on, if you put us in a majority in the House, then we will impeach President Trump.
00:18:18.000 But the polls are not really very much in support of the idea of impeaching President Trump.
00:18:22.000 Most Americans are not thrilled with the idea that there are going to be impeachment hearings and throw Trump out of office on the basis of what?
00:18:28.000 On the basis of nothing right now.
00:18:30.000 Jonathan Karl is right that the best thing that could happen, Jonathan Karl, the reporter from ABC News, he's right.
00:18:35.000 The best thing that could probably happen here for the Republicans is for Democrats to start pushing impeachment on the basis of zero evidence at this point.
00:18:42.000 The Republicans that are running this strategy, in terms of from Capitol Hill, don't necessarily want that.
00:18:48.000 It's a district-by-district, state-by-state effort.
00:18:50.000 Some of those candidates will have to distance themselves from Donald Trump.
00:18:53.000 But the Trump political team believes that you have to make this all about, you have to make this a referendum on impeachment, a referendum on the president.
00:19:01.000 And I think that's exactly right.
00:19:02.000 I mean, I think that if the Democrats push for impeachment, that backfired against Republicans after they tried to impeach Clinton in 1998, 1999.
00:19:09.000 And I think it will backfire against, yeah, I think it will backfire against Democrats if they try it now.
00:19:13.000 Democrats believe this too.
00:19:14.000 Karen Finney is a former spokesperson for Hillary Clinton, and she's admitting that if Democrats try to push for impeachment, it's actually going to be very bad for them.
00:19:21.000 And the Democrats cannot let that happen because, I agree with you, that is the way to fire up that base.
00:19:26.000 And Matt, I disagree with you.
00:19:27.000 I mean, part of why the messaging from the Democrats does matter is they've got to try to keep the president's numbers as low as they can and create as much of a wedge for Republicans who are either running for re-election or running in these races.
00:19:38.000 It's part of what we've seen, the challenge that they've had already in these special elections.
00:19:42.000 But this is the problem that Democrats have with their own base.
00:19:45.000 While the politicos understand that you can get your own base revved up with the impeachment talk, most Americans don't like it.
00:19:50.000 The Democratic base only wants to talk impeachment.
00:19:52.000 And Michael Knowles, the ex-Gribble Michael Knowles, he actually made a really good point over the weekend.
00:19:56.000 Only time you'll ever hear me say this.
00:19:58.000 Michael Knowles actually came out and he said, listen, Stormy Daniels is the de facto head of the Democratic Party, and that's basically right.
00:20:04.000 They're now using Stormy Daniels as the physical embodiment of the Trump lies argument. 1.00
00:20:10.000 And you can see this right on SNL, they featured Stormy Daniels on Saturday night.
00:20:13.000 And she got a big cheer, Stormy Daniels.
00:20:15.000 Why?
00:20:15.000 Because she slept with the president once?
00:20:17.000 And then she reneged on a $130,000 settlement agreement? 0.98
00:20:20.000 But listen to the cheers she gets from the crowd when she appears.
00:20:23.000 And then this little segment on SNL turns into, what it really turns into is her stumping for Trump's impeachment and the crowd cheering it along.
00:20:38.000 Stormy, this is Michael Cohen.
00:20:41.000 Are you alone?
00:20:43.000 Yes.
00:20:44.000 And what are you wearing?
00:20:45.000 Excuse me?
00:20:50.000 Okay, Michael, I can take it from here.
00:20:52.000 Okay, but as your attorney, I highly advise against you... So, what up, girl? 0.99
00:21:01.000 Hello, Donald.
00:21:02.000 Come on, Stormy, stop making such a big deal about this.
00:21:05.000 Everyone knows it's just an act.
00:21:07.000 I work in adult films.
00:21:09.000 We're not really known for our acting.
00:21:12.000 Just tell me, what do you need for this to all go away?
00:21:15.000 A resignation.
00:21:17.000 Yeah, right.
00:21:20.000 Okay, so stop it there.
00:21:21.000 Okay, this is what the Democrats want.
00:21:22.000 What the Democrats think is that Stormy Daniels is going to be responsible for Trump leaving, which is why this gets big cheers.
00:21:27.000 Now, I want to show you that the Democrats don't have exactly the same perspective when it comes to Democrats.
00:21:34.000 Because this is not the first time that a presidential paramour has appeared on Saturday Night Live.
00:21:38.000 Okay, it happened before, in 1998 actually.
00:21:41.000 And I'll show you what that looked like in just a second.
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00:22:54.000 You know, when you look at SNL's treatment of Stormy Daniels, what you see is that they're treating her like she's a heroine.
00:22:59.000 The Democratic Party believes that Stormy Daniels is going to save them.
00:23:02.000 She's going to come like deus ex machina, going to come from the outside and somehow save the Democratic Party from the predations of Donald Trump. 0.85
00:23:10.000 Well, people are pointing out that this is not the first time that a former lover of the President of the United States has appeared on television on SNL.
00:23:17.000 Particularly, Monica Lewinsky did an actual cameo in 1998. 0.99
00:23:20.000 But you actually have to see how Monica Lewinsky treats Bill Clinton in this little cameo. 1.00
00:23:25.000 It's not about Bill Clinton's resignation anymore.
00:23:27.000 She basically tut-tuts him for being a bit of a sleaze.
00:23:29.000 But that's about it.
00:23:30.000 And there is a difference.
00:23:31.000 There is a difference.
00:23:32.000 Here's what it looked like in 1998 when Monica Lewinsky was on SNL. 0.88
00:23:35.000 Will you please welcome our guest, Ms.
00:23:37.000 Monica Lewinsky. 1.00
00:23:38.000 Come on, everybody.
00:23:38.000 Yeah.
00:23:43.000 Oh, yeah!
00:23:44.000 This guy at work is considerably older than me, and also, he's my boss.
00:23:49.000 Oh, your boss?
00:23:50.000 Uh, well, Monica, maybe you should answer this one.
00:23:54.000 Uh, well, I'd say it's not a good idea to get involved with people you work with.
00:23:59.000 Believe me.
00:24:00.000 Uh, first, people around the office start gossiping, and the next thing you know, your face is all over Arabic newspapers.
00:24:07.000 Yeah, I know that's what happens to me all the time.
00:24:11.000 Okay, so again, it turns into this sort of tut-tutting, isn't it funny that she had an affair with the President of the United States?
00:24:16.000 But it's not Stormy Daniels demanding a resignation. 0.97
00:24:19.000 It isn't resignation porn, it's just porn.
00:24:20.000 And it's basically how the media treated Bill Clinton as opposed to how they treat Donald Trump.
00:24:24.000 This is why the Democratic Party has a problem.
00:24:26.000 If they run on resignation of Donald Trump, they will lose.
00:24:29.000 But the base insists that this is exactly what they run on.
00:24:32.000 The only thing that the left cares about right now is Donald Trump.
00:24:34.000 Their entire universe revolves around the giant son of Donald Trump in the very center.
00:24:39.000 It's an amazing, amazing thing to watch because there's so much else going on.
00:24:43.000 This is why they're now hailing John McCain as a hero.
00:24:45.000 So John McCain is unfortunately dying.
00:24:48.000 And he knows that, right?
00:24:49.000 I mean, he's going to go pretty soon.
00:24:50.000 And he's already planning who he wants at his funeral.
00:24:52.000 So the left is very, very excited because McCain has said he does not want Donald Trump at his funeral.
00:24:57.000 According to NBC News, people close to Senator McCain have told the White House the ailing Arizona Republican does not want Trump to attend his funeral and would like Vice President Mike Pence to come and said.
00:25:04.000 A source close to McCain confirmed to NBC News.
00:25:08.000 He's been battling an aggressive form of brain cancer for nearly a year, and he's back home in Arizona after undergoing surgery last month.
00:25:15.000 And he's been ripping into Trump.
00:25:16.000 He obviously is doing a new HBO documentary in which he's going to criticize Trump.
00:25:20.000 Now, I think that's McCain's prerogative.
00:25:22.000 Listen, if I were McCain, would I want Donald Trump, a guy who said I wasn't a war hero, at my funeral?
00:25:27.000 A guy who consistently used me as his foil at my funeral?
00:25:29.000 Probably not, right?
00:25:30.000 And when you're dying, you definitely have to pick who comes to your funeral.
00:25:32.000 So all these people who are like, oh, it's so terrible.
00:25:35.000 How could he rip Trump like that, not wanting him at his funeral?
00:25:37.000 To be fair, Donald Trump was ripping McCain first.
00:25:40.000 But it's the media's response to this that I find truly fascinating.
00:25:43.000 The media are suddenly over the moon about John McCain again because John McCain has been resistant to Trump.
00:25:48.000 Everything for the left revolves around Donald Trump.
00:25:51.000 That is not a good way for you to run a political party.
00:25:54.000 It actually makes your political base nuts. 0.70
00:25:57.000 I think that there's a good case to be made that Barack Obama made the Republican base a little bit crazy.
00:26:02.000 And I think that the same thing is happening to the Democratic base with regard to Donald Trump.
00:26:05.000 Except a lot more so.
00:26:06.000 Except a lot more so.
00:26:07.000 Okay, so meanwhile, I have to tell you a couple of amazing stories.
00:26:11.000 So first, you wonder about the extremism of the left?
00:26:15.000 Here's an example of the extremism of the left.
00:26:17.000 So on Sunday, the Chronicle of Higher Education reported on a supremely important development.
00:26:21.000 A male professor 0.89
00:26:23.000 Made a joke about lingerie in an elevator.
00:26:26.000 And who else was in the elevator?
00:26:27.000 A gender studies professor.
00:26:28.000 So you can predict how this thing was going to go.
00:26:31.000 According to Catherine Mangan, who's the reporter at Chronicle of Higher Education, political theory professor Richard Ned Lebow of King's College was in an elevator with a bunch of other humans, including professor Simona Chironi, who teaches women's and gender studies at Merrimack College. 0.95
00:26:44.000 She is a professional useless person. 1.00
00:26:47.000 And Chironi, who clearly had been conditioned to submit to the patriarchy, she offered to hit buttons on the elevator. 0.98
00:26:53.000 And that's when Liebaud did the unthinkable.
00:26:55.000 He jokingly asked for the women's lingerie department.
00:26:57.000 Which has been like a joke since the 1950s, that you get on an elevator with a bunch of people, and then somebody says, which button would you like to hit?
00:27:02.000 And they say, lingerie department. 0.99
00:27:04.000 You know, just as like a stupid joke. 1.00
00:27:06.000 So his buddies, those jerks, those patriarchal jerks, they laughed. 1.00
00:27:09.000 How dare they? 1.00
00:27:10.000 So what did this lady do? 1.00
00:27:11.000 Okay, this women's studies professor complained to the International Studies Association just as an empowered woman would. 1.00
00:27:18.000 She went and she whined to the male bosses of the ISA. 1.00
00:27:21.000 She tremblingly wrote, quote, I am still trying to come to terms with the fact that we froze and didn't confront him for making a joke about the women's lingerie department in an elevator.
00:27:31.000 Okay, they launched a full investigation of Liebau.
00:27:34.000 Why?
00:27:35.000 Because here's what Liebaud did.
00:27:36.000 She wrote to him, and he wrote back, quote, And then he suggested that Chironi, who was born in Romania and raised in Israel, might have misinterpreted his remark.
00:27:45.000 When he was young in the 1950s, he said, And then he wrote,
00:27:58.000 As such evils continue, it seems to me to make sense to direct our attention to real offenses, not those that are imagined or marginal.
00:28:05.000 By making a complaint to ISA that I consider frivolous, and I expect will be judged this way by the Ethics Committee, you may be directing time and effort away from the real offenses that trouble us both.
00:28:14.000 But this was the big problem, right?
00:28:15.000 Why was this a problem?
00:28:16.000 Because he was doubling down.
00:28:17.000 And not only that, he was mansplaining!
00:28:19.000 He mansplained to the gender studies professor. 1.00
00:28:21.000 You must never mansplain to a gender studies professor that she's being an idiot. 1.00
00:28:26.000 Too bad that she couldn't woman understand, but he had to mansplain it to her, and that was the big problem. 0.99
00:28:30.000 Andrew Clavin's line there about woman understanding.
00:28:32.000 According to the association, this was the cruelest cut of all.
00:28:35.000 That Li Bao didn't just bow grovellingly before her and say, I wish I had never made that lingerie joke.
00:28:40.000 I know.
00:28:41.000 I know.
00:28:41.000 It was just the same.
00:28:42.000 Just the same as forced abortions in China. 0.98
00:28:44.000 But, you know, I really apologize now.
00:28:47.000 So she says it didn't feel frivolous.
00:28:50.000 Instead, the association said that Liebau, this professor, had to write an unequivocal apology. 1.00
00:28:55.000 Liebau said no, because he's not a ridiculous stupid moron. 0.99
00:28:58.000 Instead, he wrote an email calling the entire situation, quote, a horrifying and chilling example of political correctness that encourages others to censor their remarks for fear of retribution. 1.00
00:29:06.000 Retribution.
00:29:08.000 But Cerrone, this female professor, was steadfast. 0.92
00:29:10.000 She wrote, quote, for decades.
00:29:12.000 Women and other marginalized groups in the academy had to put up with white men who decided what counts as a violation and what is frivolous.
00:29:20.000 As someone who has dedicated her life to confronting sexism and other forms of discrimination and oppression in academic spaces, I cannot and will not remain silent when misogyny is at play.
00:29:29.000 You can hear the swelling music from behind and you get the upshot with the lights behind her and you see her in profile.
00:29:34.000 She looks out staring into the sun because of the magical thing she's just done in resisting a joke about a women's lingerie department.
00:29:42.000 Just amazing.
00:29:43.000 Amazing courage.
00:29:45.000 And then people wonder why people think that gender studies professors are humorless scolds you would never want to spend any time in an elevator with.
00:29:51.000 Probably because they're humorless scolds that you wouldn't want to spend any time in an elevator with.
00:29:55.000 My goodness.
00:29:56.000 But this is the extent to which the left has gone extreme.
00:30:00.000 I have a couple more examples that I want to give you in just a second.
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00:31:14.000 Okay, so, meanwhile, speaking of extremism on the left, there's a CNN columnist who's now explaining that violence, all violence in the United States, is due to the patriarchy.
00:31:24.000 It is due to the patriarchy.
00:31:25.000 It's not due to guns.
00:31:26.000 It's not due to lack of fathers in the community.
00:31:29.000 It's due to the patriarchy. 0.99
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00:33:16.000 So talking about the polarization and extremism of the left and the fact that they want to impeach Donald Trump, the fact that you have feminist studies professors who are attempting to shut down jokes in elevators, well, the latest example comes courtesy of CNN.
00:33:28.000 There's a community organizer there named Richard Edmund Vargas, and he has finally cracked the code to violence in American society.
00:33:34.000 It is not guns.
00:33:36.000 It is not lack of fathers. 1.00
00:33:37.000 It is testicles. 1.00
00:33:38.000 Testicles are the real problem. 1.00
00:33:39.000 According to Vargas, quote,
00:34:06.000 First of all, we live in a less patriarchal society than any time in human history.
00:34:09.000 If by patriarchal society, you mean the rule of men.
00:34:11.000 There are more women in positions of power now than at any time in the history of humanity. 1.00
00:34:15.000 Beyond that, this idea that men are continuously taking up arms and committing mass murder is not true.
00:34:20.000 Those numbers have been declining steadily for the last several decades.
00:34:23.000 Violent crime rates have been in consistent decline since 1994.
00:34:26.000 Second, men constitute most violent criminals in every society, no matter how feminist they are. 0.99
00:34:31.000 Every society ever, men are more violent than women. 1.00
00:34:34.000 That's just the way that it works.
00:34:35.000 It's not the patriarchy. 0.88
00:34:36.000 It's because men are built to be more violent than women. 1.00
00:34:39.000 And finally, it's really funny that this guy wants to blame the entire patriarchy when it is in fact lack of men in society that is leading to a violent uptick where there is a violent uptick.
00:34:48.000 Single motherhood is one of the leading indicators in American society of criminality among young men. 1.00
00:34:53.000 It's very weird that Vargas is willing to blame a culture of American patriarchalism at large for violence, rather than looking at specific cultures that have a violence problem and saying, OK, what do all of these things have in common?
00:35:04.000 It has nothing to do with race.
00:35:05.000 There are violent white cultures. 1.00
00:35:06.000 There are violent black cultures. 1.00
00:35:07.000 There are violent Hispanic cultures. 1.00
00:35:09.000 One of the things that they have in common is lack of men in the community teaching boys that they are safe, that they don't need to react violently, and that it is, in fact, bad to react violently. 1.00
00:35:17.000 Instead, Vargas blames cartoons, video games, and contemporary politicians, which is just idiotic. 0.97
00:35:22.000 Cartoons have been around since the 1940s, 1930s. 0.99
00:35:25.000 They've always been violent.
00:35:26.000 They're less violent now than at any time, probably in the history of cartoons.
00:35:29.000 Watch cartoons now, really.
00:35:30.000 They're a lot less violent than they were even in Tom and Jerry's day.
00:35:33.000 That's why, in The Simpsons, they mock the old cartoons with Itchy and Scratchy, the uber-violent cartoons from Itchy and Scratchy.
00:35:39.000 That's supposed to be making fun of the cartoons.
00:35:41.000 It's Tom and Jerry.
00:35:41.000 That's what it's supposed to be mocking.
00:35:43.000 Okay, those cartoons have gotten less violent.
00:35:45.000 Video games, very little evidence to show that playing video games makes you violent.
00:35:48.000 In fact, there's virtually no evidence to show that.
00:35:51.000 And contemporary politicians, again, blaming Trump, I understand.
00:35:54.000 It just shows how Trump has warped the minds of the left.
00:35:56.000 Blaming Trump for upticks in violence is insane, considering that whatever uptick in violence has happened in the last couple of years predated him.
00:36:03.000 The uptick in violent crime was due to the Ferguson effect in 2015 and 2016, as cops stopped getting aggressive in high-crime areas, and that led to an increase in crime generally.
00:36:14.000 So where is Vargas getting his evidence for the idea that America's patriarchal society is responsible for the evils of violence?
00:36:24.000 Here's what he says.
00:36:24.000 In my own life, I was taught by patriarchy that real men don't ask for help.
00:36:27.000 And because of the ways that patriarchy is racialized, I was taught that black men like myself were supposed to act in certain ways.
00:36:33.000 Hardened.
00:36:33.000 Shallow.
00:36:34.000 Unaccountable.
00:36:34.000 When I was 19, I followed this script and decided that committing robberies was an acceptable way to deal with the fact that I couldn't pay my rent.
00:36:40.000 When my girlfriend offered to help me pay it, I saw accepting a woman's help as weakness and decided to rob instead. 0.99
00:36:45.000 That led to me being sentenced to 10 years in state prison.
00:36:48.000 It was all a little bit vague.
00:36:49.000 Like, where's the patriarchy?
00:36:50.000 Who told him this?
00:36:51.000 Who socialized him?
00:36:53.000 Who?
00:36:53.000 Was it his dad?
00:36:54.000 Was it his brothers?
00:36:55.000 Was it other—was it gang members?
00:36:56.000 Like, who did it?
00:36:58.000 He doesn't say, because instead—again, this is one of the big problems in having political conversations.
00:37:02.000 When people say, the problem is white privilege, the problem is the patriarchy, the problem
00:37:09.000 is generalized American institutional racism.
00:37:12.000 None of this is helpful because you're not naming me a specific problem I can deal with.
00:37:16.000 It's like me saying, the problem is society.
00:37:19.000 What the hell am I supposed to do about society?
00:37:21.000 What are you supposed to do about society?
00:37:23.000 The answer is, you can't do anything about society.
00:37:25.000 You actually have to name me the specific problem that I can help you fight.
00:37:28.000 Otherwise, you're just shouting in the wind and blaming people you disagree with for your problems.
00:37:34.000 Vargas' solution in the end is feelings.
00:37:36.000 He says that young men must be taught to share and regulate the spectrum of human emotions.
00:37:39.000 Or, maybe what we actually need is more of a patriarchy.
00:37:43.000 A system of men bringing up boys. 0.54
00:37:46.000 A system of men growing up, roughhousing with their sons, teaching them the limits of violent play.
00:37:51.000 A system of men.
00:37:53.000 Who are inculcating in their sons the idea that they have to be protectors of women and children.
00:37:57.000 That they are not to act out violently.
00:37:59.000 Maybe you need more men, not fewer men.
00:38:01.000 Maybe you need more masculinity, not less masculinity.
00:38:04.000 Maybe testosterone is not the problem.
00:38:06.000 It's unchanneled testosterone because there's no other men there to deter the use of testosterone.
00:38:12.000 You know why boys don't listen to their moms? 1.00
00:38:14.000 Because boys, very often, are physically more powerful than their moms.
00:38:17.000 Okay, talk to any guy who's alive now, right, any man who has lived through the age of 16 or 17 and ask them if they were really intimidated by their mom.
00:38:25.000 The answer is no. 0.98
00:38:26.000 But ask any of those men who grew up with powerful dads if they were afraid that if they crossed the line, their dad was going to whoop their butt. 0.98
00:38:33.000 The answer is yes. 0.98
00:38:34.000 The answer is yes.
00:38:35.000 That was always a deterrent.
00:38:36.000 You need a system.
00:38:38.000 In fact, it's not even having a father in the home, it turns out.
00:38:40.000 That's the most important thing.
00:38:41.000 It's having a lot of men in the community at large.
00:38:44.000 There's that study that I talked about a few weeks ago from Harvard, in which they looked at violent crime statistics, and what they found is that the leading indicator of depressing violent crime wasn't actually having a father in the home.
00:38:58.000 It was having lots of fathers in the neighborhood.
00:38:59.000 It was having an entire system of men.
00:39:02.000 So getting rid of the men isn't the solution.
00:39:04.000 And feminizing men isn't the solution either. 1.00
00:39:06.000 The answer is channeling masculinity in a positive way that matters.
00:39:10.000 Channeling masculinity in a special, positive way.
00:39:13.000 And you need men to do that.
00:39:15.000 Now, meanwhile, speaking of the racialism of the left, there's a long 5,000-word essay by Ta-Nehisi Coates now on Kanye West.
00:39:22.000 Ta-Nehisi Coates is considered one of the great writers of our time.
00:39:25.000 For the life of me, I don't know why.
00:39:27.000 I think that he uses very flowing, romantic language.
00:39:31.000 He likes run-on sentences.
00:39:32.000 He's very fond of paragraph-long lists.
00:39:35.000 His writing has been favored by all of the great intelligentsia.
00:39:39.000 He's considered the heir to James Baldwin, the racial writer from the 1960s, 70s, 80s, 50s.
00:39:46.000 Ta-Nehisi Coates has a long essay in which he is very, very angry with Kanye West.
00:39:49.000 Why is he angry with Kanye West?
00:39:50.000 He's angry with Kanye West because Kanye West says that he wants to think outside the box.
00:39:55.000 So, what does Ta-Nehisi Coates do?
00:39:57.000 Kanye West's argument is, I'm not just a black man, I'm an individual, and that means I can have an individual perspective.
00:40:02.000 And Ta-Nehisi Coates' answer to this is, stop being an individual with a perspective, be a black man. 1.00
00:40:07.000 So he begins his 5,000-word essay with an ode to Michael Jackson.
00:40:11.000 He says, Such language.
00:40:29.000 And he talks about how Michael Jackson was his god, but then Michael Jackson started turning white. 0.54
00:40:34.000 He says that he had always been dying, dying to be white.
00:40:38.000 This is what he says about Michael Jackson.
00:40:40.000 That's pretty overwrought language.
00:40:42.000 By the way, it's also kind of nasty because it turns out that Jackson had vitiligo, right?
00:40:46.000 So Jackson, there was a lot of suspicion that he was bleaching his skin, but it turns out that on his autopsy, they actually found he did have vitiligo, which actually makes your skin white.
00:40:54.000 I don't
00:41:14.000 Okay, first of all, if you are worshiping cultural figures as gods, you got a bigger problem on your hands than Kanye West.
00:41:19.000 It's Kanye West, a god in this time, awakened recently from a long public slumber to embrace Donald Trump.
00:41:23.000 He hailed Trump as a brother, a fellow bearer of dragon energy, and impugned those who objected as suppressors of unpopular questions, thought police, whose tactics were based on fear.
00:41:32.000 Which is basically true.
00:41:34.000 And then Kanye West, and then Ta-Nehisi Coates, plays the thought police.
00:41:38.000 Right, he says that Kanye, like Jackson before him, is trying to escape his blackness.
00:41:42.000 He says,
00:41:44.000 That Donald Trump is nothing new.
00:41:47.000 He says, the tragedy is so old, but even within it, there are actors, some who have chosen resistance and some like West, who have blithely chosen collaboration.
00:41:54.000 So apparently, he is now a collaborator. 0.64
00:41:57.000 And here is the amazing part of this ridiculously long and silly article. 0.93
00:42:02.000 He says West is the great betrayer. 0.99
00:42:04.000 He's the great betrayer.
00:42:05.000 Why?
00:42:05.000 Because when Jackson sang and danced, when West samples or rhymes, they're tapping into a power formed under all the killing, all the beatings, all the rape and plunder that made America.
00:42:13.000 The gift can never wholly belong to a singular artist, free of expectation and scrutiny, because the gift is no more solely theirs than the suffering that produced it.
00:42:20.000 So in other words, Kanye West is not an individual.
00:42:23.000 He is merely a sort of
00:42:25.000 I don't know.
00:42:46.000 He didn't know the things that we know because he's removed himself from society to a point where it doesn't reach him, TI said.
00:42:51.000 West calls his struggle the right to be a free thinker and he is indeed championing a kind of freedom, a white freedom. 0.83
00:42:56.000 Freedom without consequence.
00:42:58.000 Freedom without criticism. 0.98
00:42:59.000 Freedom to be proud and ignorant.
00:43:00.000 Freedom to profit off of people in one moment and abandon them in the next. 0.93
00:43:03.000 A stand-your-ground freedom.
00:43:05.000 A freedom without responsibility, without hard memory.
00:43:07.000 A Monticello without slavery.
00:43:08.000 A Confederate freedom. 0.62
00:43:09.000 The freedom of John C. Calhoun.
00:43:11.000 John C. Calhoun talks about the glories and merits of slavery.
00:43:14.000 Not the freedom of Harriet Tubman, which calls you to risk your own. 0.51
00:43:16.000 Not the freedom of Nat Turner, which calls you to give even more.
00:43:19.000 But a conqueror's freedom.
00:43:20.000 Freedom of the strong, built on antipathy or indifference to the weak.
00:43:23.000 The freedom of rape buttons, pea grabbers, and F-U-N-U-A-B. 0.52
00:43:27.000 Freedom of oil and invisible wars.
00:43:29.000 The freedom of suburbs drawn with red lines.
00:43:30.000 The freedom, the white freedom of Calabasas. 0.86
00:43:33.000 So Kanye West said, I want to think for myself.
00:43:35.000 And Ta-Nehisi Coates' response is, you're just like John C. Calhoun.
00:43:39.000 You're just like the slaveholder. 0.96
00:43:41.000 You're just like the person who killed Trayvon Martin. 0.99
00:43:43.000 You are looking for the white freedom of Calabasas. 0.98
00:43:48.000 I think that Ta-Nehisi Coates just proved Kanye West's point.
00:43:50.000 Kanye West's entire point was, you won't let me think for myself, because you suggest that if I do, then I am betraying black people everywhere.
00:43:56.000 And Ta-Nehisi Coates says, you're right.
00:43:57.000 You are betraying black people everywhere by thinking for yourself. 1.00
00:44:00.000 Stop that. 0.98
00:44:00.000 Return to being a cog in the machine, because after all, 0.98
00:44:03.000 Your culture is not your own. 0.98
00:44:04.000 Your music is not your own.
00:44:05.000 Your creativity is not your own.
00:44:07.000 It's mine.
00:44:08.000 He has a Marxist view of society in which we are all outgrowths of the social milieu in which we live.
00:44:13.000 And Kanye West is just that. 0.91
00:44:14.000 And if he betrays that social milieu, then he has become a traitor, a race traitor.
00:44:18.000 He finishes up Ta-Nehisi Coates by saying, I wonder what he might be if he could find himself back into connection, back to that place where he sought not a disconnected freedom of eye, but a black freedom that called him back, back to the bone and drum, back to Chicago, back to home.
00:44:32.000 OK, well, maybe he doesn't need to be called back to Chicago, back to home.
00:44:36.000 Maybe home is where you make it because you're an individual.
00:44:39.000 But this clash between collective and individual is too much for Ta-Nehisi Coates to stand.
00:44:43.000 It's too much for the left to stand.
00:44:44.000 And that is a root conflict that is not going to go away anytime soon.
00:44:48.000 OK.
00:44:49.000 Time for some things I like, and then some things I hate, and we'll do a Federalist paper.
00:44:51.000 So, things I like.
00:44:53.000 Over the weekend, HBO is recommending, I have Amazon Prime and I subscribe to HBO, so one of HBO's documentaries is this fascinating documentary called Going Clear.
00:45:01.000 Now, it started off as a book, and the book itself is quite good.
00:45:06.000 The documentary is quite frightening.
00:45:08.000 If you've never followed what the Scientologists believe or what they do, what the Church of Scientology is, this is a really good introduction.
00:45:14.000 I don't know.
00:45:31.000 And this is true whether you are secular or whether you're religious, because Scientology is not really particularly religious, right?
00:45:36.000 The draw to Scientology, the original draw to Scientology, is psychological, right?
00:45:39.000 It's, we are going to better you, we're going to make you stronger, we're going to make you a better version of you.
00:45:43.000 It's only when you reach the upper levels of Scientology that they start giving you all the weird stuff about Xenu and Thetans and all that kind of stuff.
00:45:50.000 But, it just shows how people who are looking for answers can be gulled into a lot of crazy stuff.
00:45:56.000 Here is a little bit of the preview for Going Clear, Scientology and the Prison of Belief.
00:46:00.000 Someone had told me there's this cult and it'll make anything possible in your life.
00:46:05.000 I was deeply convinced that we were getting to save the world.
00:46:09.000 It was a transcendent experience.
00:46:14.000 You feel euphoric.
00:46:15.000 Everything you do for endless trillions of years depends on what you do with and in Scientology.
00:46:23.000 They sell it all in the beginning as something quite logical.
00:46:28.000 You take on a matrix of thought that is not your own.
00:46:33.000 It's so strong that it sticks you by glue.
00:46:36.000 Okay, the documentary is really good.
00:46:38.000 It does investigate John Travolta's relationship with Scientology and Tom Cruise's relationship with Scientology.
00:46:43.000 It is super creepy.
00:46:45.000 Check it out, going clear.
00:46:46.000 Okay, time for A Thing That I Hate.
00:46:51.000 So actually, I have a couple of things that I hate today.
00:46:53.000 The first thing that I hate, there is this tweet that had, at last count, it was deleted, but it had almost two million views, I believe, on this little video.
00:47:02.000 And it is a person who is berating a small Jewish child.
00:47:06.000 I mean, this kid, how old is this kid?
00:47:07.000 Maybe four?
00:47:09.000 I mean, this kid looks the age of my daughter, maybe.
00:47:11.000 And this is a Hasidic kid from probably Crown Heights, New York, walking around wearing a yarmulke. 0.98
00:47:17.000 And what some of the more Hasidic members of the community do is, because they believe that you're supposed to let your side locks grow, the kid has really long side locks and the kid's hair is cut really, really short.
00:47:27.000 So here is this video that it was being mocked, right?
00:47:31.000 The kid was being mocked.
00:47:31.000 This is a small child being mocked for his parents' religion.
00:47:34.000 Here's this kid who's getting mocked. 1.00
00:47:37.000 And again, this thing had like two million views on Twitter and everybody laughing at the kid and these stupid people who do this to the kid. 1.00
00:47:43.000 The guy's standing there mocking the kid. 1.00
00:47:44.000 He's not mocking the parents, he's mocking the kid.
00:47:45.000 Here's what it sounded like.
00:47:47.000 He's just gonna keep looking at me.
00:47:52.000 I'll be crying if I look like that too, bro. 0.80
00:47:53.000 That's f***ed up what they be doing to y'all. 0.89
00:47:55.000 I ain't even gonna hold you, bro. 0.96
00:47:57.000 I be saying that's f***ed up. 0.93
00:47:58.000 Like, bro, you probably had the full washing set. 0.99
00:48:00.000 Your sh** be fired probably if they ain't cut your sh**. 1.00
00:48:03.000 It's f***ed up, bro. 1.00
00:48:04.000 It's your life. 1.00
00:48:06.000 Okay, that guy is just, it's an awful person. 1.00
00:48:09.000 But if you looked at the Twitter comments, it was all anti-Semitic crap about how dare they, you know, these terrible, terrible parents. 0.98
00:48:15.000 I promise you that these kids' parents, this kid's parents right here, they're better parents than the guy who's talking. 0.98
00:48:19.000 The guy who's talking? 0.99
00:48:20.000 That guy had crappy parents. 0.99
00:48:21.000 You know how I know? 1.00
00:48:21.000 Because that guy's a piece of human debris. 1.00
00:48:23.000 Okay? 0.95
00:48:24.000 And what's amazing is that this, of course, there have been a couple of beatings of Hasidic guys in New York in the last few weeks, like anti-Semitic beatings of Hasidic guys in New York.
00:48:31.000 In the last couple of weeks.
00:48:33.000 It's been largely unremarked upon by national media because only certain, only certain beatings get actually covered by the national media.
00:48:40.000 If there's an Islamophobic beating, for example, an Islamophobic attack, well-deserved media coverage. 0.96
00:48:44.000 If there's an anti-Semitic attack, only if it's Trump supporter, if it's an alt-right guy, for example, then it gets media. 0.95
00:48:49.000 But if it's a black guy attacking a Hasidic kid in New York, which is what that sounds like, then, and if you look at the comments and the person who tweeted it out, the person who tweeted it out is black, 0.95
00:48:58.000 Then it's totally fine, right? 0.98
00:49:00.000 No comment at all.
00:49:01.000 This is pure anti-Semitism. 1.00
00:49:02.000 The idea that anti-Semitism only exists on the alt-right is idiotic. 1.00
00:49:05.000 It is not true. 1.00
00:49:06.000 It is false.
00:49:07.000 If you look at the polls, anti-Semitism inside the black community is much higher than anti-Semitism in the white community, which is a real problem, and it's something that needs to be dealt with internally in the black community, but it's... 0.96
00:49:19.000 It's really, really gross.
00:49:21.000 You know, the media won't cover any of this stuff because you're not allowed to say that the intersectional coalition actually has fault lines, that black people, that the polls show that the black community has more of an anti-Semitism problem than the white community, because obviously blacks are supposed to be allied with Jews, and all of them are supposed to be allied against the white power structure, but that is not the reality.
00:49:41.000 The reality is that there are serious fault lines between a lot of these communities, and those need to be rectified in all directions.
00:49:46.000 Okay, other things that I hate.
00:49:48.000 Alyssa Milano decided to show up to the NRA event over the weekend, and she brought along her security guard.
00:49:52.000 Well, her security guard was armed.
00:49:54.000 And an NRA member pointed out that Alyssa Milano was walking around with an armed security guard, and she got really uptight. 1.00
00:50:05.000 Alyssa, you're a hypocrite. 1.00
00:50:08.000 But you are armed. 1.00
00:50:10.000 You have armed security here.
00:50:12.000 You are armed.
00:50:34.000 You have armed security here.
00:50:36.000 Okay, and then she claimed that she knew that the security was armed, which is highly unlikely.
00:50:40.000 Okay, as somebody who travels with security, I know when my security is armed.
00:50:42.000 I know when my security is not armed.
00:50:44.000 By the way, this is a public forum, so moving this guy off of the sidewalk.
00:50:49.000 As long as he's not disturbing anyone is not actually a thing.
00:50:53.000 But it just goes to show you the hypocrisy of the left when it comes to gun control.
00:50:56.000 It only extends so far as their security guards.
00:50:59.000 Okay, now time for a Federalist paper.
00:51:01.000 Every week we do a Federalist paper here on the Ben Shapiro Show.
00:51:03.000 We are all the way up to Federalist number 27.
00:51:05.000 Alexander Hamilton wrote this one and it is all about the fears that the federal government would use the military to execute its laws.
00:51:11.000 Now this Federalist paper is kind of weird because it actually has some holes in it.
00:51:14.000 Hamilton argues that the people are not going to have to worry about the federal government cracking down using federal troops because they're only going to rebel. 0.96
00:51:21.000 People are only going to rebel if the government sucks. 0.97
00:51:23.000 He says, quote, 0.98
00:51:32.000 So therefore, if they administer well, you're not going to have to worry about the military.
00:51:35.000 That's not really a very good argument.
00:51:37.000 That's an argument like, well, I'm worried that the police are going to come into my community and harm me.
00:51:41.000 And the answer is, well, if you obey the laws, then the police won't come and harm you.
00:51:45.000 Well, what if the laws are the question?
00:51:47.000 What if the extent of the legal authority is the question itself?
00:51:50.000 Okay, then Hamilton continues, he says,
00:52:09.000 In other words, the more regular intercourse you have with the federal government, the more you're going to be likely to obey its commands.
00:52:27.000 But at the same time, this should be a case for the federal government doing less.
00:52:31.000 Because that is true.
00:52:33.000 The more you deal with the federal government, the more you become dependent on the federal government.
00:52:36.000 What Hamilton is using as an argument in favor of a standing military at the national level
00:52:43.000 should actually be used as an argument in favor of less federal intervention, because the fact is, the more the government is interacting with you on a daily basis, the more you're going to accept them interacting with you on a daily basis, which they should not be in the first place.
00:52:55.000 I think this argument actually cuts in the opposite direction of how Hamilton wants it to cut.
00:52:58.000 Okay, we'll be back here tomorrow with all the latest.
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