The Ben Shapiro Show - November 26, 2018


Saying The Unsayable | Ep. 666

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00:00:00.000 The migrant caravan reaches the border and all hell breaks loose, Twitter moves to ban science, and the Russians get aggressive with the Ukrainians.
00:00:07.000 I'm Ben Shapiro, this is the Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:13.000 Well, I hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving weekend and that you came back all refreshed.
00:00:18.000 We had a great Thanksgiving at my house.
00:00:20.000 At my house, we did all of the typical Thanksgiving things.
00:00:22.000 We had the great Thanksgiving food, we spent a lot of time with family, and half the family nearly died of dysentery.
00:00:28.000 That's a thing that pretty much actually happened.
00:00:30.000 We'll get to all of the news in just one second, but first, let's talk about... We're now past Thanksgiving, right?
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00:01:59.000 OK, so let's talk about the news, because a lot of stuff happened over the weekend because people just couldn't leave things alone, could you?
00:02:04.000 You just couldn't leave it alone.
00:02:05.000 You couldn't just go enjoy Disneyland.
00:02:07.000 You couldn't just enjoy the turkey.
00:02:08.000 Instead, we had to have a bunch of news.
00:02:10.000 So here is the latest.
00:02:12.000 Over the weekend, hundreds of immigrants tried to storm the border.
00:02:15.000 So we were told, as you recall, that immigrants would not, in fact, try to storm the border in this migrant caravan.
00:02:20.000 I was one of the people saying that this was a little overestimated.
00:02:22.000 It wasn't going to be thousands of people trying to storm the border.
00:02:24.000 In fact, it was not thousands of people.
00:02:26.000 It was a couple of hundred people.
00:02:28.000 I think one person actually made it across the border and then was immediately chased back across the border.
00:02:32.000 But tear gas was fired at these crowds.
00:02:35.000 Because some of these people were throwing rocks at border patrol agents.
00:02:38.000 And here is what it sounded like when hundreds of people tried to storm the border between Tijuana and the United States.
00:02:47.000 You can see these folks breaking through a fence, running across no man's land toward the next fence.
00:02:52.000 And Border Patrol showed up.
00:02:55.000 And they're flying.
00:02:55.000 What I do love about this is that you can see that some of them are flying the flag of Honduras.
00:02:59.000 And Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, the new congresswoman from New York, in all of her wisdom, she said, well, this is just like refugees, like when the Jews were trying to flee Nazi Germany.
00:03:08.000 Well, when the Jews were fleeing Nazi Germany, they didn't arrive at Staten Island and Liberty Island with the Nazi flag on them, right?
00:03:15.000 If you're actually fleeing a place because of political asylum needs, you typically don't fly the flag of the place from which you are running.
00:03:22.000 Also, the vast majority of these people are not coming because of political violence.
00:03:25.000 The vast majority of these people are coming for economic necessity.
00:03:28.000 Which is a fine reason to try and enter another country, but you have to do so legally.
00:03:32.000 You don't get to try to break through the fence.
00:03:34.000 And that was not just that video.
00:03:36.000 There is also video of people who are pushing and trying to push through the fence while shouting, yes, we can.
00:03:41.000 Here they were at one of the border patrol stations at one of the big walls, and they actually tried to force open the fence.
00:03:47.000 So you can see people there standing right outside the fence, and some people shouting, si se puede.
00:03:57.000 And then it got even worse.
00:03:59.000 There were some folks who were actually physically throwing rocks at members of Border Patrol, which was just delightful. 1.00
00:04:04.000 In this video, if you can't see it, I will describe it for you, you can see folks who are actually picking up rocks, throwing them at Border Patrol agents, and then there was the famous picture that is now on the front page of every newspaper of Border Patrol having fired some tear gas near the crowd.
00:04:19.000 Nobody apparently really got hurt, but here is some of the video what it sounds like.
00:04:23.000 So you can see here's a guy picking up stones, turning around and trying to throw it at Border Patrol.
00:04:28.000 You can see them trying to fling the stones over the fence at Border Patrol.
00:04:32.000 Now, once you do that, Border Patrol agents have every right to defend themselves as they see the need.
00:04:38.000 Are these people we want to be citizens of the United States?
00:04:40.000 Are these people we want to enter the United States?
00:04:42.000 The answer, of course, is no.
00:04:43.000 If you are throwing rocks at the members of our Border Patrol, while presumably attempting to enter the country illegally, We do not want you here in the United States.
00:04:51.000 Now, what's really funny is to watch a bunch of folks on the left downplay all this stuff.
00:04:55.000 Well, it didn't happen.
00:04:57.000 Or if it did happen, it's not really a big deal.
00:04:58.000 Let's not make a big deal.
00:04:59.000 And at the same time say it is so evil and so terrible that tear gas was deployed against all of these refugees, these poor huddled masses yearning to be free.
00:05:09.000 Brian Stelter, The news guy over at CNN, right?
00:05:13.000 His job is to monitor media bias, but he is a good example of it himself.
00:05:17.000 Brian Stelter tweeted out, I'm watching the coverage.
00:05:19.000 The southern border is 1,954 miles long.
00:05:22.000 It's not being overwhelmed. 0.81
00:05:24.000 That is legitimately one of the dumber points I have ever heard about any sort of attempt to breach a border.
00:05:29.000 It turns out that the border between France and Germany was several hundred miles long. 0.68
00:05:34.000 And when the Germans moved through Belgium in 19, in 19, 39, and that was actually not... Well, let's see, when did they move through Belgium?
00:05:43.000 Yeah, 1939.
00:05:44.000 When they actually moved... 1940.
00:05:46.000 When they moved through Belgium in 1940, it turns out that that was a breach of the border that did not require you to breach the entire border at once.
00:05:53.000 All you have to do is breach one point in the border, and that would amount to a border breach.
00:05:57.000 And if people just rushed through that, then that would be overwhelmed.
00:06:00.000 Now, was the border overwhelmed?
00:06:02.000 No.
00:06:02.000 We had people there.
00:06:03.000 It was stopped.
00:06:04.000 Still, this is evidence that if you didn't have people there, you didn't have a wall, you didn't have some sort of physical obstruction, it would not be stopped.
00:06:10.000 Simone Sanders, another commentator on CNN, she said, reminder, these are asylum seekers.
00:06:14.000 The United States government is attacking asylum seekers.
00:06:17.000 And this is after Chris Sherman of the Associated Press tweeted, Okay, so here is the question.
00:06:21.000 Why were the parents there with the choking toddlers near a place where people were attempting to breach the border wall?
00:06:27.000 Okay, so here is the question.
00:06:28.000 Why were the parents there with the choking toddlers near a place where people were attempting to breach the border wall?
00:06:33.000 We have border patrol stations.
00:06:35.000 If people want to apply for asylum, all they have to do is walk up to the border patrol station and ask for asylum papers.
00:06:41.000 Instead, people are trying to breach that border, throwing rocks at folks, and then when tear gas is fired back, then all of a sudden it's, how dare we do any of this?
00:06:49.000 So it turns out...
00:06:51.000 Now, this is actually nothing new.
00:06:53.000 President Obama in 2013 had a very similar situation.
00:06:58.000 Back in 2013, there were a bunch of people who tried to break through, and during the Obama years, it turns out that tear gas was fired as well.
00:07:06.000 The use of tear gas was used several years back.
00:07:09.000 No one cared then.
00:07:11.000 And it turns out that the caravan confirms what President Trump has been saying for a long time, which is that the aiding and abetting of this migrant caravan to get them to the border so that they could use violence against Border Patrol agents and try to break through the border is a problem.
00:07:23.000 Now, did that require 15,000 troops down at the southern border?
00:07:26.000 No.
00:07:26.000 Is it a massive crisis where thousands of people are breaking through the border and they're going to invade the country?
00:07:31.000 No.
00:07:31.000 Is it a problem?
00:07:32.000 Yes, of course it's a problem.
00:07:34.000 This is not stopping folks on the left from trying to turn this into a human rights issue.
00:07:39.000 Brian Schatz, who is the senator from Nevada, he said, Who gave the order?
00:07:43.000 This is what he tweeted out, as though this is like he's now Tom Cruise in A Few Good Men.
00:07:49.000 And suddenly you're gonna see President Trump going, you want me on that wall!
00:07:53.000 You need me on that wall! 1.00
00:07:55.000 So, he's the senator from Hawaii, sorry, and he is an idiot. 1.00
00:07:58.000 Who gave the order? 1.00
00:07:59.000 Well, the order to defend yourself from people throwing rocks at you without killing people?
00:08:03.000 I mean, probably like the normal rules of engagement that apply in any sort of conflict situation, probably that.
00:08:09.000 Again, I do find it ironic and weird that so many folks on the left are very, very upset at the deployment of like a tear gas canister at the border when people are throwing rocks at our troops.
00:08:18.000 They didn't care when Obama did it. 0.59
00:08:20.000 I mean, hell, they didn't care when Obama was literally droning American citizens who he said were terrorists.
00:08:25.000 I don't mind droning American citizens, maybe, maybe, who are terrorists, maybe, although I think that's legally dicey, but it is amazing to watch all these people suddenly rediscover their feelings about civil liberties for people attacking American troops when it's a Republican who's president again.
00:08:41.000 Now what's hilarious about all of this Is that there are some Democrats who are beginning to realize that maybe this isn't the best election pitch.
00:08:48.000 Maybe the best election pitch for 2020 isn't, we don't care about the border, let everybody through.
00:08:52.000 One of those people is, believe it or not, Hillary Clinton. 0.93
00:08:54.000 So over the weekend, Hillary Clinton admitted That Europe has badly mishandled the migration crisis from the Middle East.
00:09:02.000 Here is what she had to say about Europe's dealing with its own borders and the migrant crisis that has swamped Western Europe.
00:09:08.000 She said, quote, I think Europe needs to get a handle on migration because that is what lit the flame. 0.72
00:09:12.000 I admire the very generous and compassionate approaches that were taken by leaders like Angela Merkel of Germany.
00:09:17.000 But I think it is fair to say Europe has done its part and must send a very clear message.
00:09:21.000 We are not going to be able to continue providing refuge and support because if we don't deal with the migration issue, it will continue to roil the body politic.
00:09:29.000 Kind of interesting, right?
00:09:30.000 I mean, that's exactly what President Trump has been saying.
00:09:32.000 Now Democrats are starting to say that as well.
00:09:34.000 John Kerry last week said something very similar about the migrant crisis in Europe.
00:09:37.000 And yet the Democratic Party in the United States is embracing the full-scale dovish position on immigration that Hillary and Kerry won't embrace with regard to Europe.
00:09:46.000 So why is it OK for us to talk about the migrant crisis in Europe, but not to talk about the migrant crisis with regard to Mexico?
00:09:53.000 The answer, of course, is because President Trump is not responsible for immigration policy in Europe.
00:09:56.000 He is responsible for immigration policy in the United States.
00:09:59.000 And that means that they have to yell at President Trump no matter what.
00:10:02.000 Still, members of the left continue to push and promote the most left-leaning version of what immigration policy should be, including, of course, the op-ed page over at the New York Times.
00:10:13.000 There's a piece by a woman named Jessa Crispin over at the New York Times called Marrying Him Was Political.
00:10:18.000 Sponsoring His Visa Is For Love.
00:10:20.000 A Romantic, Pragmatic, Green Card Wedding Day.
00:10:23.000 And here's what she says.
00:10:24.000 Again, this is the New York Times promoting immigration fraud, basically.
00:10:27.000 She says, We were sitting in a dive bar in Kansas City, Missouri, with two whiskey sodas, and the man I had met only 10 days before said he had an important question to ask me.
00:10:34.000 The last important question was, what is your relationship to potato chips?
00:10:37.000 Which he'd asked while gesturing to the many bags of various flavors piled in my pantry.
00:10:41.000 So it wasn't as if I was expecting anything electric to come out of his mouth.
00:10:44.000 I looked at him, and he said with a steady gaze, Would you marry me?
00:10:48.000 I felt the strangest thing.
00:10:49.000 Not joy, not shock, not fear.
00:10:50.000 I felt calm.
00:10:51.000 Calm, as everyone who knows me is aware, is a rare feeling for me.
00:10:54.000 But first, I had to make sure he wasn't making fun of me.
00:10:56.000 Is that a hypothetical or a practical question?
00:10:58.000 Both, he said.
00:10:59.000 Then, yes.
00:11:00.000 We ordered another round, set a date for our courthouse wedding four days later, and immediately began to text our friends.
00:11:04.000 What?
00:11:04.000 Why?
00:11:05.000 Are you sure?
00:11:05.000 I ignored them.
00:11:06.000 Drunk on whiskey and other stuff, we stumbled out of the bar.
00:11:09.000 This is obviously a recipe for excellent decision making.
00:11:11.000 As I stood on the curb to hail a cab, he ran to the drugstore next door.
00:11:15.000 Just need to get something.
00:11:16.000 He came back, his arms full of potato chips, bags of every flavor they had on the shelves.
00:11:20.000 But marriage is not about love.
00:11:22.000 It is about politics.
00:11:23.000 All of my adult life, I have argued for the abolition of marriage. 0.84
00:11:26.000 Because marriage is a series of rights unfairly distributed to men and women who have found love or have deluded themselves into thinking they have found love.
00:11:33.000 If romantic love is its own reward, as every Hollywood film and novel in the women's fiction section at the bookstore would have us believe, then why pile on tax breaks, hospital visitation, health insurance, immigration assistance, and all the rest of it?
00:11:45.000 Having a successful love life should not have a determination on whether you live or die. 0.96
00:11:50.000 Okay, so this gets even more idiotic, but the bottom line is that this woman basically married the guy in order so that he could get immigration. 0.97
00:11:57.000 He said, holding my partner's hand at the immigration lawyer's office, I wanted so much to give this to him. 0.97
00:12:01.000 A stabilized future, the ability to live and work where he wanted, a larger canvas for his ambitions.
00:12:06.000 And yet something in me started to draw back at that moment.
00:12:08.000 A whirlwind adventure of love and romance started to look like a strategic seduction.
00:12:12.000 He might fear that I might be mercenary.
00:12:13.000 I kept thinking of that line spoken by Morris Townsend in the movie, The Heiress, based on Henry James's Washington Square.
00:12:19.000 And this entire article just goes on to describe how this woman basically married the guy so that he would be able to get an immigration, a green card, basically.
00:12:29.000 She says, marrying him was a political act.
00:12:31.000 Sponsoring him for a visa is a devotional act.
00:12:33.000 We're amassing a file to prove that the relationship is real and not a transaction.
00:12:37.000 The American government gives you a list of things it will be looking for to provide the legitimacy of your love.
00:12:42.000 She said, the file wears on both of us.
00:12:44.000 Pictures we take of each other are both for us and for the government.
00:12:46.000 When I say, what's your niece's name again?
00:12:48.000 I'm asking you to set it into my brain for the eventual quiz, not out of curiosity.
00:12:52.000 Just delightful.
00:12:54.000 Just delightful.
00:12:55.000 So the New York Times promoting essentially immigration fraud at the same time that people are storming the borders.
00:13:00.000 That's just wonderful.
00:13:01.000 We'll get to more of the left's failures on immigration and why President Trump has an actual opening here in just a second.
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00:14:17.000 So as I say, President Trump now has a big win on the way here because the left has pushed too hard on the border issue.
00:14:24.000 They keep saying that open borders are fine, that our guys should not be able to protect themselves. 0.99
00:14:29.000 They keep yelling at President Trump about why the border basically needs to be left unprotected, why the wall is a stupid idea. 0.97
00:14:35.000 And Trump has been warning for a long time that these folks were going to try and break through. 0.99
00:14:39.000 All he required was a little bit of video of people breaking through to justify his questions.
00:14:43.000 And then it turns out people did exactly that.
00:14:47.000 The attempt to downplay this by the media is simply an attempt to back a narrative that they had been laying out that was subjective, not objective.
00:14:54.000 It's once again an indictment of the politicization of the media.
00:14:57.000 Now, there are people who have been trying to cover this objectively, saying, OK, well, there are people coming to the border.
00:15:02.000 That's not great.
00:15:03.000 If they try to break through the border, they should be treated as criminals because they are criminals at that point.
00:15:07.000 Also, sending 15,000 troops to the border, not necessary.
00:15:09.000 A lot of those folks are there superfluously for political purposes.
00:15:13.000 But illegal immigration is a problem.
00:15:15.000 That'd be the most objective way to cover this.
00:15:16.000 The media, however, was fully invested in the idea that the migrant caravan not only was a big nothing, but that it was created just for purposes of the election itself.
00:15:25.000 And then once the election was over, Trump forgot about it, except now it's back in the headlines.
00:15:28.000 Why?
00:15:29.000 Because it turns out it was an issue after all.
00:15:32.000 It was an issue after all.
00:15:33.000 Okay, now.
00:15:33.000 Speaking of saying the unsayable, as President Trump has been doing on immigration, we gotta talk about Twitter and social media.
00:15:41.000 Because what Twitter and social media have been doing over the last week and a half, really, really astonishing.
00:15:46.000 So, over the weekend, there's a guy named Jesse Kelly.
00:15:49.000 Jesse Kelly is a former Marine.
00:15:52.000 He's a conservative writer and radio host who was banned from Twitter on Sunday.
00:15:55.000 He has been given no excuse by Twitter why he was banned.
00:15:59.000 According to the explanation and screenshot provided by Kelly to the Daily Wire, this is a piece by Amanda Prestigiacomo, Twitter violated its own policy by not informing him of the content that apparently earned him the permanent suspension.
00:16:10.000 Kelly claims the only communication he had with Twitter regarding the ban was the following message.
00:16:15.000 Your account was permanently suspended due to multiple or repeat violations of the Twitter rules.
00:16:19.000 The account will not be restored.
00:16:20.000 Please do not respond to this email as replies and new appeals for this account will not be monitored.
00:16:25.000 So they basically just killed his Twitter account.
00:16:29.000 Ultimately, they just destroyed it.
00:16:31.000 And the fact that Jesse Kelly was banned from Twitter.
00:16:34.000 He'd been talking about this in advance for a long time, that Twitter was cracking down on conservatives.
00:16:39.000 Basically, Jesse Kelly is banned for no reason.
00:16:41.000 Louis Farrakhan still gets to call the Jews termites.
00:16:44.000 So all of this is going really well over at Twitter.
00:16:46.000 It gets even worse over at Twitter.
00:16:48.000 Basically, I have about 1.8 million followers on Twitter, somewhere in that neighborhood.
00:16:52.000 I expect to be banned any day from Twitter.
00:16:54.000 Why?
00:16:54.000 Because I maintain that a man is a man and a woman is a woman.
00:16:57.000 Twitter has now adopted a policy.
00:16:59.000 I'm not kidding you.
00:17:00.000 This is a massive social media network with a certain amount of immunity to lawsuit.
00:17:07.000 Because they're treated as a common carrier, basically, even though they are, in fact, an editorial website.
00:17:15.000 As I've talked about before, they're being treated like a phone line.
00:17:18.000 As though they have no editorial discretion.
00:17:20.000 They're using editorial discretion now in vast ways.
00:17:23.000 And because of that, it seems to me that they should be relieved of their presumption of non-guilt when it comes to violations of copyright law, for example.
00:17:34.000 As I've said before, legally speaking, The Daily Wire, right?
00:17:37.000 We're here at The Daily Wire.
00:17:38.000 If we run a libel, a libelous story, we are liable for that.
00:17:44.000 We are legally liable for that.
00:17:45.000 You can sue us for that.
00:17:46.000 That's because we are an editorial website and we make editorial judgments and you can sue us if we run something libelous.
00:17:51.000 Hey, if something libelous appears on Twitter, Twitter is not sued for that.
00:17:55.000 Why?
00:17:55.000 Because it's like a phone line, right?
00:17:56.000 They're not discriminating based on content.
00:17:58.000 Except they are discriminating based on content.
00:18:00.000 Listen to the insanity of the story.
00:18:02.000 Twitter is now outright banning science.
00:18:04.000 They are banning science outright for political purposes.
00:18:07.000 This is according to Pink News, a website from the UK.
00:18:10.000 Twitter has now prohibited misgendering and deadnaming on its platform in an effort to curtail anti-trans abuse.
00:18:17.000 The social media company has changed its rules to ban the practices and has warned that any user who deliberately targets a trans person in these ways may face permanent suspension.
00:18:27.000 These offensive techniques, which involve using the wrong gender to refer to a trans person or a trans person's old name, are often used on Twitter to insult and erase trans people's identities and right to exist.
00:18:37.000 This is such propagandistic nonsense. 0.99
00:18:40.000 The only way to erase somebody's right to exist is to kill them, right, or to jail them. 1.00
00:18:44.000 Nobody's talking about doing any of this with transgender people. 1.00
00:18:47.000 But if the idea is that I now have to say that Caitlyn Jenner is a woman, I'm not doing that.
00:18:53.000 And if the idea is that Bradley Manning, right, changed his name legally to Chelsea Manning, my rule about names, by the way, is that I am more than happy to use the names which you legally change your name, because people can change their names without changing the underlying sex, but I'm not going to grant you in public In public discourse about the nature of sex, I'm not going to suggest that you're a member of the biological sex to which you do not belong.
00:19:14.000 It's illogical, and it's foolish, and it destroys boundaries that nature created and that you cannot put asunder simply because you want to.
00:19:21.000 But Twitter now says that if I refer to Chelsea Manning as a man, that they could ban me.
00:19:26.000 If I say Caitlyn Jenner is a man, they could ban me.
00:19:29.000 And if Jesse Kelly says Caitlyn Jenner won a medal as Bruce Jenner, or that Chelsea Manning was convicted as Bradley Manning, then Jesse Kelly could be banned permanently from Twitter.
00:19:40.000 This is what deadnaming is.
00:19:41.000 Deadnaming is the idea that you are insulting someone by using the name that they were born with and that they experienced most of their life with.
00:19:47.000 And so if you use their old name, so I guess if we use Cassius Clay, is that also dead naming?
00:19:51.000 Because that was Muhammad Ali's name until he changed it in the middle of his boxing career?
00:19:56.000 In Twitter's updated terms of service, the company now states, quote, We prohibit targeting individuals with repeated slurs, tropes, or other content that intends to dehumanize, degrade, or reinforce negative or harmful stereotypes about a protected category.
00:20:08.000 Weird, because I remember when Louis Farrakhan is still on Twitter and he called the Jews termites.
00:20:14.000 That was weird.
00:20:14.000 I remember when I received 7,400 anti-Semitic slurs in the course of six months in 2016, and the vast majority of those people were never banned.
00:20:22.000 They say that this includes misgendering or deadnaming of transgender individuals.
00:20:27.000 This is absurd in the extreme.
00:20:30.000 Absurd in the extreme.
00:20:31.000 It's anti-scientific in a very real way.
00:20:34.000 Men are men.
00:20:35.000 Women are women. 1.00
00:20:36.000 And if you're going to argue to me that biological sex no longer exists, you're going to have the same problem the Catholic Church had in the 15th century when they were trying to claim that the universe was geocentric.
00:20:47.000 You can't argue with science.
00:20:48.000 Science is still science.
00:20:49.000 We're going to get to more of social media crackdowns in just a second.
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00:22:09.000 Okay, so...
00:22:11.000 Twitter has decided that they are now going to ban basic science.
00:22:15.000 Basic science.
00:22:15.000 And this has led me to basically say over and over on Twitter, yesterday and today, men are men, women are women, come at me, bro.
00:22:22.000 If Twitter wants to ban me for saying that men are men and women are women, and that biological sex is a thing, and that the term gender is a made-up term by social justice warriors that has no actual social science data to back it, Right?
00:22:36.000 If by gender, you mean.
00:22:37.000 So, all of transgenderism, all of the transgender civil rights movement, is based on deliberate misclassifications of various terms.
00:22:45.000 Okay, so if we're talking about biological sex, there's no question that human beings are sexually dimorphic.
00:22:49.000 There are men, and there are women.
00:22:51.000 And when people say, well, there are a bunch of sexes in between. 1.00
00:22:53.000 No, you're now talking about intersex disorders.
00:22:55.000 Okay, those are actual disorders.
00:22:57.000 But that's like saying that because a pencil that came off the assembly line was mistakenly created without an eraser, that pencils generally do not have erasers.
00:23:06.000 Or if a pencil came off the line, it didn't have lead.
00:23:08.000 The pencils don't have lead.
00:23:09.000 The definition of a pencil is that it doesn't have lead.
00:23:11.000 There's no such thing as a pencil.
00:23:13.000 Right? 0.97
00:23:13.000 That's ridiculous. 0.97
00:23:14.000 That's ridiculous. 0.98
00:23:15.000 Words have meanings. 0.83
00:23:16.000 Terms have meanings.
00:23:17.000 Biological sex has a meaning. 0.89
00:23:19.000 And to pretend otherwise is to deny science.
00:23:21.000 It's so funny to hear all these people who love to talk about climate change pretend there's no such thing as a man and no such thing as a woman.
00:23:28.000 So, there's biological sex.
00:23:29.000 Then there's a term called gender.
00:23:31.000 And this is where the left has decided that gender is basically along the spectrum of maleness and femaleness.
00:23:38.000 There's a bunch of genders, an infinite variety of genders, in fact.
00:23:42.000 The amount that you are male, or the amount that you are female, and carries certain characteristics.
00:23:45.000 And we are all different these ways, right?
00:23:47.000 Because there are some men who are more manly men, and they love man crates, right?
00:23:51.000 And then there are some men who are more girly men, right?
00:23:54.000 And they love all the sponsors over at Pod Save America, right?
00:23:57.000 There are lots of different kinds of men, right?
00:23:59.000 Male, more masculine, more feminine. 0.54
00:24:02.000 But the term gender has no specified number of genders that exist, right?
00:24:07.000 It's basically just every individual has their own gender, which means that it's a meaningless term.
00:24:11.000 If you just want to say every individual on planet Earth is a mix of characteristics, Sure.
00:24:17.000 Agree.
00:24:17.000 But if your claim is that now we have to make up a pronoun for every one of you, the pronoun is called your name.
00:24:22.000 We don't actually have to do that.
00:24:23.000 I'm not going to make up a pronoun.
00:24:27.000 I'm not going to do any of that.
00:24:28.000 I'm going to use biological terms because biological terms Are the terms that we have historically used when we are talking about humans.
00:24:35.000 And using intersex to replace transgender is a complete misnomer.
00:24:39.000 It's not the same thing at all.
00:24:41.000 Transgender folks are claiming they can be fully genetically male and also female at the same time. 0.88
00:24:46.000 Fail. 0.97
00:24:47.000 Fail.
00:24:47.000 This is biologically not true.
00:24:49.000 Okay, so.
00:24:50.000 With all of that said, then folks who are on the transgender civil rights side, they say, well, okay, fine. 0.50
00:24:56.000 You want to say that you don't want to use our preferred pronouns.
00:25:01.000 And by the way, when it comes to individual conversation, I've been asked this repeatedly.
00:25:04.000 If I were out to dinner with a transgender person, I did a breakfast recently with a transgender person.
00:25:09.000 Do I go out of my way to say pronouns that offend the person?
00:25:12.000 No, just like I wouldn't go out of my way to offend you if we were at dinner, even if I thought what you were saying was wrong, right?
00:25:17.000 There's no purpose to it.
00:25:18.000 But when I'm talking public policy and how many sexes there are, I'm not going to pretend there are 93 sexes. 1.00
00:25:24.000 There are not 93 sexes. 0.59
00:25:26.000 And pretending this stuff does have real-world consequences.
00:25:29.000 In my community, in my Jewish community, there's a gym nearby.
00:25:32.000 It's a gym that is sex segregated.
00:25:34.000 Why?
00:25:34.000 Because Orthodox Jewish women are supposed to be, supposed to hew by certain religious standards of modesty.
00:25:41.000 Orthodox Jewish women go to this gym. 1.00
00:25:43.000 It's a gym that is just for women. 1.00
00:25:45.000 Well, last week, apparently, there was a man who walked into that gym and said, I am a transgender woman.
00:25:50.000 And then not only did he walk into the gym and claim that he was a transgender woman, he then proceeded to disrobe in front of all the women.
00:25:56.000 They have individual lockers, locker rooms, like, like small private spaces where he could change.
00:26:01.000 But instead, this person decided that he was, as a woman, he had every right to change in public with these religious women.
00:26:07.000 Every one of those religious women is going to now drop their gym membership, and the gym can't do anything about it. 1.00
00:26:11.000 Because if the gym were to say to this guy, dude, you're a biological male, you need to dress by yourself in here, even if you consider yourself a woman, then they would be sued out of existence.
00:26:21.000 This stuff does have consequences, and those consequences, like, are these women sexist for saying they don't want to undress themselves in front of a male? 0.85
00:26:28.000 Or, they would prefer to go to a female locker room where they don't have to see a penis? 1.00
00:26:32.000 This is this is absurd stuff. 0.99
00:26:34.000 So there's a bunch of linguistic confusion that is deliberately pervade by folks on the social justice left with regard to this issue.
00:26:41.000 And it leads to some of the most absurd results.
00:26:44.000 It leads to absurd results with actual public policy consequences.
00:26:47.000 Take, for example, this article from The New York Times.
00:26:50.000 I'm not making this up.
00:26:51.000 This is in the New York Times over the last three days.
00:26:54.000 It is by a person named Andrea Long Chu, who's a biological male who's a transgender woman, meaning a biological male who has gender dysphoria and believes that he is in fact a woman in a male body. 0.95
00:27:04.000 The title of this article, I'm not kidding you, My New Vagina Won't Make Me Happy And It Shouldn't Have To. 1.00
00:27:12.000 Here's what the article says. 0.99
00:27:13.000 Next Thursday, I will get a vagina. 1.00
00:27:16.000 Like where? 1.00
00:27:16.000 Best Buy? 1.00
00:27:17.000 How's that gonna work?
00:27:18.000 Like, it's a Cyber Monday sale.
00:27:20.000 Okay.
00:27:21.000 The procedure will last around six hours and I will be in recovery for at least three months. 0.99
00:27:24.000 Until the day I die, my body will regard the vagina as a wound. 1.00
00:27:28.000 As a result, it will require regular painful attention to maintain. 0.93
00:27:31.000 This is what I want, but there is no guarantee it will make me happier.
00:27:33.000 In fact, I don't expect it to.
00:27:35.000 That shouldn't disqualify me from getting it. 0.98
00:27:37.000 First of all, let's note in this first paragraph, what this person is getting is not a vagina. 0.98
00:27:42.000 What this person is getting is a wound. 0.98
00:27:44.000 Okay, it is a wound. 0.99
00:27:45.000 A vagina is not, in fact, a wound. 1.00
00:27:46.000 A vagina is a bodily organ that does not attempt to heal up on its own, because it is a bodily organ. 1.00
00:27:51.000 Okay, I like to say that being trans, the article says, is the second worst thing that ever happened to me. 0.87
00:27:56.000 The worst was being born a boy.
00:27:58.000 Dysphoria is notoriously difficult to describe to those who haven't experienced it, like a flavor.
00:28:02.000 Its official definition, the distress some transgender feel at the Incongruence between the gender they express and the gender they've been socially assigned does little justice to the feeling.
00:28:12.000 But in my experience at least, dysphoria feels like being unable to get warm no matter how many layers you put on.
00:28:16.000 It feels like hunger without appetite.
00:28:18.000 It feels like getting on an airplane to fly home only to realize mid-flight that this is it.
00:28:21.000 You're going to spend the rest of your life on an airplane.
00:28:23.000 It feels like grieving.
00:28:24.000 It feels like having nothing to grieve.
00:28:26.000 This is terrible, obviously.
00:28:28.000 I mean, this is really terrible, difficult stuff.
00:28:31.000 And you can have sympathy for folks like this and still recognize that this person is not a biological woman, will never be a biological woman, and is not a woman, in fact, is a man.
00:28:42.000 Many conservatives call this crazy. 0.96
00:28:45.000 No, we call this a mental illness. 0.98
00:28:46.000 Okay, crazy is derogatory.
00:28:48.000 Mental illness is something my grandfather had.
00:28:50.000 Runs in my family, right?
00:28:51.000 I mean, there are people I know who are mentally ill with whom I'm very close, who have suffered from severe mental disorders.
00:28:59.000 I know that we're trying now to basically strawman the other position on the part of the social justice left.
00:29:05.000 That if you refuse to use the pronouns of choice, that you are now contributing to suffering, or that you wish to.
00:29:13.000 But that's just not the case.
00:29:14.000 A popular right-wing narrative holds that gender dysphoria is a clinical delusion.
00:29:18.000 Hence, feeding of that delusion with hormones and surgeries constitutes a violation of medical ethics.
00:29:23.000 And then, here's where it gets to the public policy.
00:29:26.000 It says, In this view, it is not only fair to refuse trans people the care they seek, it is also kind.
00:29:30.000 A therapist with a suicidal client does not draw the bath and supply the razor.
00:29:34.000 Take it from my father, a pediatrician, who once remarked to me he would no sooner prescribe puberty blockers to a gender dysphoric child than he would give a distemper shot to someone who believed she was a dog.
00:29:42.000 Naturally, a liberal counter-narrative exists and it has become increasingly mainstream.
00:29:47.000 Transgender people are not deluded, but they are suffering.
00:29:50.000 Therefore, medical professionals have a duty to ease that suffering.
00:29:53.000 The article goes on, and then here is where we reach the crux of the matter.
00:29:56.000 It says, I feel demonstrably worse since I started on hormones.
00:30:00.000 One reason is that absent the levies of the closet, years of repressed longing for the girlhood I never have had flooded my consciousness.
00:30:06.000 I'm now a marshland of regret.
00:30:08.000 Another reason is that I take estrogen, effectively delayed-release sadness, a little aquamarine pill that more or less guarantees a good weep within six to eight hours.
00:30:15.000 Like many of my trans friends, I've watched my dysphoria balloon since I began transition.
00:30:19.000 I now feel very strongly about the length of my index fingers, enough that I will sometimes shyly unthread my hand for my girlfriends as we walk down the street.
00:30:25.000 When she tells me I'm beautiful, I resent it.
00:30:27.000 I've been outside, I know what beautiful looks like, don't patronize me.
00:30:30.000 I was not suicidal before hormones.
00:30:32.000 Now I often am.
00:30:33.000 I won't go through with it, probably.
00:30:34.000 Killing is icky.
00:30:35.000 I tell you this not because I'm cruising for sympathy, but to prepare you for what I'm telling you now. 0.93
00:30:39.000 I still want this.
00:30:40.000 All of it.
00:30:40.000 I want the tears.
00:30:41.000 I want the pain.
00:30:42.000 Transition doesn't have to make me happy for me to want it.
00:30:44.000 Left to their own devices, people will rarely pursue what makes them feel good in the long term.
00:30:48.000 Desire and happiness are independent agents.
00:30:52.000 And then this person makes the case that basically the medical establishment should give you a surgery even if it is bad for you.
00:30:58.000 This person says the medical maxim, first do no harm, assumes that health care providers possess both the means and the authority to decide what counts as harm.
00:31:07.000 Let me be clear.
00:31:08.000 I believe that surgeries of all kinds can and do make an enormous difference in the lives of trans people, but I also believe that surgery's only prerequisite should be a simple demonstration of want.
00:31:17.000 So you want a surgery?
00:31:19.000 You get a surgery.
00:31:20.000 And then we can force a doctor to perform the surgery, even if it's going to be bad for you, make you more suicidal, make you more likely to kill yourself, and is going to be a gaping wound in your body for the rest of your life.
00:31:29.000 This stuff has consequences, but we can't openly discuss it on Twitter, lest we be banned.
00:31:34.000 We can't openly discuss it.
00:31:34.000 I'm going to get to more of this in just one second.
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00:34:40.000 So Twitter is cracking down on all expressions of science with regard to sex.
00:34:50.000 Twitter is refusing to allow any sort of conversations about the nature of gender dysphoria, when gender surgery, sex reassignment.
00:34:58.000 Sex cannot be reassigned, by the way, because it was never assigned in the first place.
00:35:01.000 To be reassigned, sex would have to be assigned.
00:35:03.000 It was not assigned.
00:35:04.000 You were born with it.
00:35:06.000 Any more than I was assigned my foot, and cutting off my foot would be reassigning my foot.
00:35:09.000 That's not how this works.
00:35:11.000 Just because you changed the body part that we're talking about here does not mean that you had your sex reassigned.
00:35:16.000 So this whole thing is really absurd.
00:35:18.000 The language of it is absurd.
00:35:20.000 But Twitter is now going to enforce it.
00:35:22.000 This basic censorship is un-American.
00:35:24.000 It's un-American. 0.82
00:35:25.000 Twitter is acting in un-American fashion by shutting down necessary public policy conversations on the basis that is offensive to someone.
00:35:32.000 This is feelings over fact.
00:35:35.000 And let's be real about this.
00:35:36.000 If Twitter believes that it is now the job of Twitter to prevent social conversations on important public topics, because some people may take it the wrong way, then Twitter's going to be banning everybody except for Jack, who apparently has all the right views.
00:35:49.000 Jack Dorsey, the head of Twitter.
00:35:50.000 It's not just Twitter, by the way.
00:35:52.000 There's a report that got very, very little attention when it was reported in the Wall Street Journal a little bit earlier this year.
00:35:57.000 It's amazing that it didn't get more attention.
00:36:00.000 The Wall Street Journal reported two weeks ago that Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg pressured a top executive at his company to apologize for his support of President Trump in the 2016 election, and then issue a letter just before the election explaining that he had switched his support to libertarian Gary Johnson.
00:36:15.000 According to reporters Kirsten Grind and Keech Hagee, Oculus founder Palmer Luckey says he was put on leave and then fired for his support for Trump.
00:36:23.000 The Journal reported, quote, In the fall of 2016, as unhappiness over the denunciation simmered, Facebook executives, including Mr. Zuckerberg, pressured Mr. Luckey to publicly voice support for libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, despite Mr. Luckey's years-long support of Mr. Trump, according to people familiar with the conversations and internal emails viewed by the Wall Street Journal.
00:36:42.000 Luckey ended up negotiating a $100 million settlement, an acceleration of stock awards and bonuses he would have received Thanks to his sale of Oculus VR to Facebook in 2014, Facebook denied he was fired for his political views.
00:36:53.000 But Lucky was a supporter of President Trump for years, going back to 2011 when he urged Trump to run for president by mail.
00:37:01.000 In September 2016, the Daily Beast reported Lucky had given a $10,000 donation to Nimble America.
00:37:07.000 Which was an anti-Hillary ad group focused on trolling her. 1.00
00:37:10.000 Lucky then apparently posted on a Reddit chain under a pseudonym regarding Clinton. 0.99
00:37:13.000 He posted Hillary Clinton is corrupt, a warmonger, a freedom stripper. 0.89
00:37:16.000 Not the good kind you see dancing in bikinis on Independence Day, the bad kind that strips freedom from citizens and grants it to donors. 1.00
00:37:22.000 Facebook employees complained about Lucky with engineering director Sravinas Narayanan writing, quote, multiple women have literally teared up in front of me in the last few days. 1.00
00:37:31.000 Some developers said they wouldn't work with Lucky.
00:37:33.000 Lucky denied he posted about Clinton under a pseudonym.
00:37:36.000 He added he was a libertarian who voted for Gary Johnson.
00:37:38.000 Here is what the journal report said.
00:37:40.000 I need to tell you that Zuckerberg himself drafted this and details are critical.
00:37:44.000 said Facebook Deputy General Counsel Paul Grewal.
00:37:47.000 He wrote to a lawyer for Lucky in a September 2016 email, attaching an early draft of the statement.
00:37:54.000 The draft said Lucky would not be supporting Trump in the election.
00:37:56.000 Lucky told people he did vote for Mr. Johnson, but only to avoid having his credibility questioned if he was asked about the issue under oath in unrelated litigation.
00:38:04.000 The apology went through many drafts.
00:38:05.000 Lucky, ultimately approved changes suggested by Facebook, according to people familiar with the process.
00:38:10.000 Amazing stuff.
00:38:12.000 So Facebook basically took out a guy for $100 million after trying to force him to say that he didn't vote for Trump and voted instead for Gary Johnson.
00:38:20.000 These social media companies do not appreciate basic political views from anywhere to the right of center.
00:38:27.000 Anywhere.
00:38:27.000 Anywhere.
00:38:28.000 And it's gradually moving from the fringes.
00:38:30.000 So there are a bunch of conservatives who you see, pseudo-conservatives and conservatives on Twitter and on Facebook.
00:38:35.000 And they're like, well, if they ban this guy, if they ban Alex Jones or Laura Loomer or people who we find unpalatable, well, the alligator will eat us last.
00:38:44.000 Right, the alligator will eat you last. 0.98
00:38:45.000 And then it'll eat you. 0.67
00:38:47.000 I despise Alex Jones. 0.63
00:38:48.000 I think that Laura Loomer is a crackpot. 1.00
00:38:50.000 That doesn't matter.
00:38:51.000 The fact is that once you start banning people for a political viewpoint that is non-violent in orientation and is non-slanderous and non-legally actionable, you end up in a place where the only approved opinions are the approved opinions of Mark Zuckerberg or Jack Dorsey.
00:39:05.000 That's what's happening here.
00:39:06.000 And you can see it manifest.
00:39:07.000 It's so funny how strange new respect from the left only lasts as long as you're a useful tool for the left.
00:39:12.000 So, over at Crooked Media, There's another story over Crooked Media.
00:39:15.000 So Crooked Media, of course, the folks behind Pod Save America and...
00:39:20.000 You know, these seem like nice dudes.
00:39:22.000 I haven't really had a lot of dealings with them.
00:39:23.000 There's Jon Favreau, Jon Lovett, and Tommy Vietor.
00:39:25.000 They announced that they had dumped a guy named Tim Miller.
00:39:28.000 Tim Miller is a never-Trump Republican.
00:39:29.000 He'd been hired by Crooked Media as their token Republican, but then they fired him.
00:39:33.000 Why did they fire him?
00:39:34.000 Because it turns out that Tim Miller had been working with a group called Definers Public Affairs, and that group had been working with Facebook to reveal the fact that George Soros was pushing a lot of propaganda against Facebook.
00:39:45.000 So Crooked Media fired Tim Miller.
00:39:47.000 So Miller was good when he was criticizing Trump.
00:39:50.000 He was good when he kept criticizing Trump continuously.
00:39:52.000 But when he did things that they didn't like, then they fired him.
00:39:54.000 So they put out a statement that said, We wanted to give you an update on Tim Miller.
00:39:58.000 We invited Tim to contribute to Crooked because he took a public stand against Trump when most of his party capitulated.
00:40:03.000 That took courage.
00:40:03.000 And unlike many Republicans who declared themselves to be never-Trumpers during the campaign, he still won today.
00:40:08.000 In other words, Him yelling at Trump all the time?
00:40:10.000 That's why we hired him.
00:40:11.000 Tim is an insightful voice about what is broken in the Republican Party.
00:40:14.000 He has repeatedly denounced racism and bigotry from Trump and other Republican politicians.
00:40:18.000 But!
00:40:19.000 When we read the New York Times story about Facebook's campaign to discredit its critics, we were surprised and angry about the role that Definer's Public Affairs, the firm Tim sometimes partners with, played in that effort.
00:40:29.000 So Tim Miller, gone.
00:40:30.000 The strange new respect the left feels for some people on the right lasts only so long as they believe that those people are tools of the left.
00:40:37.000 The minute that those people suddenly become not tools of the left, then they have to be dumped on the side of the road as soon as possible.
00:40:42.000 Okay, in other news, Things getting very, very dangerous over in Ukraine.
00:40:47.000 According to the Kyiv Post, at an emergency meeting late on the night of November 25th, the military cabinet passed a resolution to impose martial law in Ukraine in the wake of an attack on and seizure of Ukrainian Navy boats by the Russian Coast Guard in the neutral waters of the Azov Sea on November 25th.
00:41:03.000 President Petro Poroshenko said he would appeal to the Ukrainian Parliament on November 26th to approve his declaration of martial law, which could lead to widespread compulsory military service, restrictions on media and public demonstrations, and suspension of elections, among other measures.
00:41:17.000 What exactly happened?
00:41:18.000 Well, the Ukrainian Navy reported that the Russian Coast Guard boats opened fire on three Ukrainian boats in the Azov Sea on the evening of November 25th.
00:41:26.000 After Russian officials announced they had trespassed its territorial waters, the Kerch Strait, the strait connecting the Black Sea and the Azov Sea, has been closed off for all non-military vessels.
00:41:36.000 In a shootout, Ukraine's small armored artillery boats sustained damage and were mobilized.
00:41:40.000 The Ukrainian tugboat had been rammed by a Russian Coast Guard ship Don earlier in the morning.
00:41:45.000 All three vessels were seized by a Russian special ops unit.
00:41:48.000 This is essentially an act of war, and it looks like things could get violent.
00:41:53.000 It could get violent.
00:41:55.000 Very quickly here.
00:41:58.000 Ukraine has demanded that Russia release sailors and ships as the tensions are getting worse.
00:42:04.000 And there's been a call for a UN Security Council resolution, which isn't going to happen, obviously, because Russia actually sits on the UN Security Council.
00:42:12.000 So all of this is getting very dire, and the possibility of a new war between Ukraine and Russia is certainly on the horizon here.
00:42:19.000 It's one of the reasons why it's been a mistake for the President of the United States to poo-poo with NATO and suggest that NATO is no longer necessary.
00:42:26.000 All that does is give all sorts of credence to the Russian aggression in the region.
00:42:32.000 I said this when Obama was president.
00:42:33.000 I'll say it again when Trump is president.
00:42:35.000 The Russian policy has basically been push until you hit steel, right? 0.51
00:42:39.000 It's been true since Stalin. 0.98
00:42:40.000 You just keep pushing until you finally hit the wall.
00:42:44.000 And right now they found no wall.
00:42:45.000 And Russia has been piecemealing Parts of Eastern Europe, they've grabbed obviously Crimea, they invaded Georgia during the Bush administration, and there's been no strong response from the American administration, whether it was Bush or Obama, and now it's up to President Trump to issue a stronger response saying NATO will defend Ukrainian territory if Ukrainian territory is in fact attacked. 0.53
00:43:06.000 Now, do we want to be in a shooting war?
00:43:07.000 No, but that's the whole reason of having deterrence.
00:43:09.000 The whole reason of having deterrence is that if you keep backing off your point, if you keep backing off the line, the Russians will keep pushing to the point where you actually do reach a line that cannot be crossed.
00:43:21.000 It's all fun and games appeasement until it turns out that you can no longer appease.
00:43:25.000 You actually have to fight back.
00:43:26.000 So for all the folks who are more isolationists in the Republican Party, understand, if you don't want to go to war, you have to stand up on your hind legs and threaten to go to war sometimes.
00:43:37.000 You actually do.
00:43:38.000 It can't just be that you are there only to defend your vital interests because that means that your vital interests will be attacked sooner rather than later.
00:43:44.000 Everyone's going to assume that you won't even defend those, especially if you can't even define what those vital interests are in the first place.
00:43:50.000 Okay, time for some things that I like and then some things that I hate.
00:43:55.000 So, things that I like.
00:43:56.000 Over the weekend, I read a good new novel by a guy named Seth Greenland.
00:44:00.000 He's a TV writer and he's definitely on the political left.
00:44:03.000 The book is called The Hazards of Good Fortune and it's sort of like a weaker version of Tom Wolfe's Bonfire of the Vanities.
00:44:10.000 The basic plot is that there's this Jewish basketball team owner who is secular Jew.
00:44:16.000 His daughter has obviously become extraordinarily politically radical, as you would expect, and gender-fluid, as you would also expect, and all the rest of it. 0.52
00:44:24.000 And he is also struggling with racial politics on his team and struggling with his wife.
00:44:31.000 The book itself is a really good trick.
00:44:33.000 It's one of the funniest things is that when the left critiques the shortcomings of the left, it sounds very right wing.
00:44:39.000 This book was certainly not meant to be right wing.
00:44:41.000 It is, in fact, however, a very right wing book, because this book basically is about the shortcomings of a secular Jewish lifestyle that has no connection to heritage, history or religion, and how that ends with people trying to appease groups they can't appease, how it ends with people You know, trying to fulfill social justice warrior standards that they can never fulfill.
00:45:00.000 And how, if you have no standards for your own kids, then your kids end up having different standards for you to which you will always fall short.
00:45:07.000 The book is worth reading.
00:45:08.000 The Hazards of Good Fortune.
00:45:09.000 It's a very quick read.
00:45:10.000 It's juicy and pulpy.
00:45:11.000 Larry David recommends it because it is funny.
00:45:13.000 It does have a couple of scenes that are pretty funny.
00:45:14.000 So check it out.
00:45:15.000 Seth Greensland's The Hazards of Good Fortune.
00:45:18.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.
00:45:23.000 So Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez continues to make headlines again. 0.83
00:45:26.000 The only reason we cover her is because the left has declared her a very important human.
00:45:30.000 And this means that we must cover her because we cover that which is very important.
00:45:33.000 She tweeted out over the weekend, insurance groups are recommending GoFundMe as official policy or customers can die if they can't raise the goal in time.
00:45:40.000 But sure, single payer health care is unreasonable.
00:45:42.000 And then she tweeted out a photo of a letter received by a person who'd been denied certain health care coverage and urged to start a GoFundMe.
00:45:49.000 This led a doctor named Nikki Johnson This tweet actually is representative of the ignorance of many legislators, not just Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
00:45:59.000 The vast majority of them do not understand healthcare or health insurance and definitely not the practice of medicine.
00:46:04.000 Yet they make laws about it and some want government to run it.
00:46:07.000 And she talks specifically in this particular case about how this letter is not coming, in fact, from an insurance group.
00:46:13.000 This is actually coming from a Medicaid group.
00:46:16.000 This is actually coming from a sponsored government group that basically had a board that denied people the immunosuppressive medication necessary for a heart transplant.
00:46:26.000 For example, so this is not in fact coming from a private insurance company.
00:46:31.000 And yet it was being treated that way by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, because obviously everything that's bad is the private market and everything that's good is the public market.
00:46:38.000 Even though denials of coverage in single payer states and nationalized health care states are extraordinarily regular, you're waiting in line for coverage for Surgeries for years and years and years.
00:46:48.000 And at the more expensive end of the scale, you simply don't get drugs sometimes.
00:46:51.000 It's not like they have an unlimited amount of money to spend.
00:46:54.000 They simply don't.
00:46:54.000 Which is why the five-year cancer survival rates in the United States are the highest of any industrialized country.
00:46:59.000 It is also why if you remove homicide and car crash deaths from the American death rolls, And what you see is that America's life expectancy is actually higher than any other industrialized country, which is a much better reflection of our health care status.
00:47:12.000 The idea that America is a great outlier when it comes to health care, that we suck all this much, we got serious problems in the American health care system.
00:47:18.000 But you actually have to understand that health care system before you can before you can hone in on what those problems are.
00:47:24.000 OK, other things that I hate today.
00:47:26.000 So, John Kasich.
00:47:27.000 Oh, God, no.
00:47:28.000 Please, God, no.
00:47:30.000 Not John Kasich.
00:47:31.000 Governor of Ohio.
00:47:33.000 He says that maybe he wants to run.
00:47:34.000 Now, John Kasich, in preparation for his run, just vetoed again the fetal heartbeat bill that would protect the lives of babies in the womb once they have a heartbeat, which is presumably around nine, ten weeks when it's detectable.
00:47:45.000 Anyway, here is John Kasich saying maybe he'll run for president because Who wants him to run?
00:47:50.000 Well, John Kasich wants him to run.
00:47:51.000 Who will vote for John Kasich?
00:47:52.000 Well, John Kasich will vote for John Kasich.
00:47:54.000 But, here's why this is... I'll explain why this is such a dumb idea in just a second. 0.97
00:47:58.000 How seriously are you thinking about taking it on this time? 0.98
00:48:01.000 Very seriously.
00:48:02.000 I'm considering it, George.
00:48:04.000 These are earnest conversations that go on virtually every day with some of my friends, with my family.
00:48:12.000 Look, we need different leadership.
00:48:14.000 There isn't any question about it.
00:48:16.000 And I'm not only just worried about the tone and the name-calling and the division in our country and the partisanship, but I also worry about the policies.
00:48:26.000 Hey, the man who strongly resembles a piece of wad up paper that you dropped in your pocket and then went through the washing machine, now says that he is worried about the tone in our politics.
00:48:36.000 I mean, John Kasich, by the way, has said some pretty nasty things to a wide variety of people.
00:48:40.000 He said that failing to expand government in the state of Ohio was anti-biblical.
00:48:45.000 A pretty amazing statement.
00:48:46.000 And of course, vetoed the fetal heartbeat bill the other day. 0.99
00:48:49.000 Curious why this is a dumb idea. 0.97
00:48:50.000 And it would be a dumb idea even if it were coming from somebody I actually liked and not John Kasich. 1.00
00:48:53.000 I think John Kasich's a schmuck. 1.00
00:48:55.000 Put that aside. 1.00
00:48:56.000 Even if it were coming from somebody that I actually like.
00:48:57.000 Let's say that, or Mike Lee, or Ben Sasse, or Ted Cruz, or somebody who I think would be a great president, who was running against Trump.
00:49:07.000 Here's why this is a bad idea.
00:49:08.000 Trump has a high level of support inside the Republican Party.
00:49:11.000 Anyone who runs against Trump will immediately be othered.
00:49:14.000 If a quote-unquote true con were to run against Trump, all that would do would be to alienate everyone who supports Trump from those true con positions, because as we know, Trump is not an ideologue.
00:49:24.000 He is happy to attack conservative positions if he thinks it will get him ahead in the polls.
00:49:29.000 And a lot of his followers are willing to temporarily put aside those conservative positions because Trump is actually a pretty good tool for policy on a bunch of various areas.
00:49:38.000 Running against Trump would lead to the false perception inside the Republican Party that conservatism is dead, when in fact it's just that a lot of people are personally loyal to the President of the United States and believe that he is doing some good things and will back him over a more conservative candidate.
00:49:51.000 The fact that a more conservative candidate will get, you know, 10% of the vote will then be used by the media to proclaim that conservatism is dead, populism is on the rise.
00:49:58.000 I would prefer the reality to continue to be the reality, which is that there are a lot of conservatives who support Trump.
00:50:03.000 There are a lot of non-conservatives who support Trump.
00:50:05.000 Trump is the president.
00:50:06.000 He'll run for re-election.
00:50:07.000 He'll get the nomination.
00:50:08.000 I see no purpose in ceaselessly and needlessly polarizing the party around a fake A fake gap between populist and conservative simply to assuage the ego of somebody like John Kasich.
00:50:19.000 OK, final thing that I hate today.
00:50:22.000 So people on the left are making a very big deal over a new government report that delivers a dire warning about climate change and its devastating impact, saying the economy could lose hundreds of billions of dollars or, in worst case scenario, more than 10 percent of its GDP by the end of the century.
00:50:36.000 We've discussed this at length before.
00:50:38.000 There are a couple of Nobel Prize winners in economics this year who talked about when in fact it would be worthwhile for us to start investing in various forms of attempting to curb climate change, particularly carbon credits.
00:50:49.000 Their estimate was it would only start being profit neutral once the climate was expected to warm more than 3.5 degrees Celsius.
00:50:58.000 That is a very large change in terms of the temperature.
00:51:05.000 Kind of overweening despair that you are seeing by folks on the left.
00:51:08.000 Climate change is happening.
00:51:09.000 We're all going to die.
00:51:10.000 Not only are we all going to die, it's going to destroy the economy.
00:51:13.000 You know what else would destroy the economy like right now?
00:51:15.000 You want to destroy more than 10% of GDP like right now?
00:51:17.000 Institute a massive carbon credits regime and regulate all of the industries that actually drive America's energy industry.
00:51:24.000 By the way, the idea that carbon emissions are chiefly coming from the United States is a lie.
00:51:28.000 Last year, the United States was the number one country on planet Earth in reducing carbon emissions.
00:51:33.000 Other countries that are developing, like China and India, are mostly responsible for the increasing carbon emissions.
00:51:37.000 They are signatories to the Paris Accords, but the Paris Accords are dumb because the Paris Accords basically say that China has no obligation to cut emissions until 2030, which means that they're going to continue emitting at extraordinarily rapid rates, even as the US's additional technology and wealth allow us to take environmentalism more seriously.
00:51:55.000 That's not stopping the left, though, from saying that climate change is going to kill everyone, we're all going to die, and we'll pretend there are no downsides to any of this stuff, even as there are riots in Paris.
00:52:05.000 There are riots happening in Paris.
00:52:06.000 Frank Buehler, this is according to the Agence France-Presse, Frank Buehler is a leader of the protesters who have barricaded French highways over the past week.
00:52:13.000 He aims to color Paris in the movement's trademark yellow on Saturday, when rural France takes its fight with President Emmanuel Macron to the Capitol.
00:52:21.000 What exactly are they fighting?
00:52:23.000 Well, he's a member of the right-wing Stand Up France party.
00:52:25.000 Buehler has watched in horror as fuel prices soared in the past years, driving up the cost of his commute to work in the rural southwestern Tarn-et-Garonne region.
00:52:33.000 He said, I spent between one and two months wages on fuel.
00:52:36.000 He says that this is because of anti-pollution taxes.
00:52:39.000 It's because of carbon credits.
00:52:40.000 So there are, in fact, a bunch of serious consequences to taking the sort of action folks on the left are urging.
00:52:48.000 A 23% rise in the price of diesel in the past year is what has happened in France.
00:52:53.000 The government has linked the price surge to world oil prices, but the yellow vest accused Macron of punishing motorists while slashing taxes on business and the wealthy.
00:53:01.000 Basically, there's a massive gas tax in France, and a lot of it has to do with attempts to fulfill the pledges of the climate accords.
00:53:09.000 If we actually want to have an intelligent conversation about climate change, we have to recognize carbon taxes actually have downsides.
00:53:15.000 And we also have to recognize that carbon taxes on industrialized countries like France and the United States are not going to stop carbon emissions from China and India.
00:53:23.000 And then, perhaps we have to figure out how exactly we spur innovation without attempting to destroy jobs and destroy lives all over the world.
00:53:30.000 But this is a conversation people don't want to have, they want it to boil down to, you either don't take climate change seriously if you don't want to massively destroy the world economy and tax people to death, or you take climate change, or you deny science.
00:53:42.000 Listen, I'm not denying climate change is happening.
00:53:44.000 I'm not even denying that man is a main cause of that climate change.
00:53:47.000 I'm questioning whether the extent of the climate change necessitates the kind of precipitous action folks on the left want to take.
00:53:53.000 I'm asking at what point we should start taking more severe action, how that action actually correlates with an attempt to reduce the climate, and is it possible that free market solutions still provide a better option since, again, natural gas replacing coal has been mainly the driver of emissions coming down in the United States over the past several years.
00:54:11.000 OK, we'll be back here tomorrow with all the latest.
00:54:13.000 I'm sure there will be plenty more news because we're back in the news cycle.
00:54:16.000 Hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving Day weekend.
00:54:18.000 I'm gonna go home, check on my wife, make sure she's doing OK.
00:54:20.000 I'll catch you later.
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