The Ben Shapiro Show - Screaming To Victory | Ep. 636

00:00:00.000 Democrats double down on their screechy rhetoric, Google is trying to usher in an era of civility, and the Saudis are in hot water. 0.72

00:00:07.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:02:09.000 Okay, so the Democrats are doubling down on their commitment to incivility.

00:02:14.000 This should not be a shock to anyone.

00:02:16.000 It really should not.

00:02:17.000 And I'm kind of surprised, frankly, that so many members of the media are pushing back against the idea that Democrats embrace anger and mob-centric politics.

00:02:25.000 So Eric Holder, the Attorney General,

00:02:28.000 Excreble Attorney General.

00:02:29.000 He's the only person who earns an excreble rating from me outside of Michael Mowles, is in fact Eric Holder.

00:02:34.000 Eric Holder, who's a terrible, terrible Attorney General, he came out and he said that our old strategy in the Democratic Party used to go, when they go low, we go high. 0.86

00:02:43.000 Well now, our strategy is when they go low, we kick them.

00:02:46.000 Here is Eric Holder saying just that.

00:02:48.000 It is time for us as Democrats to be as tough as they are, to be as dedicated as they are, to be as committed as they are.

00:02:56.000 Michelle always says, Michelle Obama, I love her, you know.

00:02:59.000 She and my wife, like, really tight, which always scares me and Barack.

00:03:05.000 But Michelle always says that, you know, when they go low, we go up.

00:03:09.000 No, no.

00:03:11.000 When they go low, we kick them.

00:03:16.000 And Eric Holder knows of what he speaks, considering how he used the office of the Attorney General to protect his wingman, Barack Obama.

00:03:23.000 There are a lot of folks who are very upset at Eric Holder today for saying this.

00:03:26.000 And yes, it's violent rhetoric.

00:03:29.000 He then clarified that he didn't mean that literally, obviously.

00:03:32.000 But this is the sort of rhetoric that Democrats have been using for quite a while.

00:03:35.000 And it turns out that a lot of Democrats do mean this stuff literally.

00:03:38.000 So, for example,

00:03:39.000 There's this woman who wrote a piece for the Huffington Post. 0.76

00:03:42.000 Her name is Nina Khanna, and she's very excited because she went and screamed at Mitch McConnell.

00:03:47.000 Here's some tape of her screaming at Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

00:03:51.000 Excuse me, are you assaulting me?

00:03:54.000 Excuse me, am I being assaulted right now?

00:03:58.000 Why are you putting your hands on her? 0.99

00:04:03.000 She's walking.

00:04:03.000 Excuse me.

00:04:04.000 Senator McConnell is really telling that you shook the hand of a man while a woman is trying to tell you her story.

00:04:09.000 Senator McConnell, do you always turn your back on women like this? 1.00

00:04:14.000 Especially women of color who are all sexual assault victims.

00:04:17.000 Is this what your constituents can expect of you?

00:04:20.000 Is this what they can expect of Republicans?

00:04:22.000 Do you not believe survivors and believe it doesn't matter?

00:04:26.000 And my favorite part of that is where she says that all women of color are sexual assault victims, which is pretty amazing. 1.00

00:04:30.000 I mean, not like really all of them.

00:04:32.000 I mean, some of them, I'm sure, but all of them, it's a pretty amazing statement.

00:04:35.000 She wrote a piece for the Huffington Post called, I Confronted Mitch McConnell and Interrupted Susan Collins, and I'll do it again.

00:04:42.000 She says, I am the executive director of Positive Women's Network, because she seems very positive, a national network of women and transgender people living with HIV.

00:04:50.000 But you may know me as one of those people who followed McConnell through Washington, D.C.'

00:04:54.000 's National Airport last week, as seen in a tweet that quickly went viral.

00:04:57.000 I and others like me confronted McConnell and other politicians in airports and offices and elevators earlier this month because they refused to meet with the people whom they allegedly represent.

00:05:06.000 What happened at the airport that afternoon is only one part of the story.

00:05:10.000 And she talks about how she's harassed Susan Collins and screamed at Susan Collins during her speech affirming her vote for Kavanaugh.

00:05:17.000 She says, There are tens of millions of us with a lot of skin in the judicial game.

00:05:25.000 Women, people of color, LGBTQ individuals, people with disabilities and chronic health conditions.

00:05:29.000 The Supreme Court has the power to interpret, uphold, and enforce laws in ways that ensure our democratic and human rights, or it can entrench privilege and power for the already privileged and powerful.

00:05:40.000 We, in all our diversity and rage, are the future.

00:05:45.000 And then she suggests that this is how she wants things to go from now on.

00:05:48.000 She says, we will keep screaming.

00:05:50.000 We will continue to confront our elected officials wherever we encounter them.

00:05:53.000 We will not be dissuaded by the police or fines or jail time.

00:05:57.000 We are survivors, not just of sexual violence, but of an entire system that was designed to keep us in our place.

00:06:03.000 So it's going to be a lot of screaming from here all the way to the end.

00:06:07.000 My favorite part of this continues to be the media gaslighting everybody.

00:06:10.000 No, no, no, no.

00:06:11.000 These aren't mobs.

00:06:12.000 These folks aren't members of mobs.

00:06:13.000 They're just angry people, you know, like angry people in groups screaming at people and doing stuff, which normally we would call like a mob, but they're not a mob because they're Democrats.

00:06:22.000 And this is what the media do when it's a

00:06:25.000 When it's a Democratic mob, it's not a mob.

00:06:27.000 It's a group of angry people.

00:06:28.000 When it's a Republican group of politically concerned people not even doing anything remotely violent, then it's a mob.

00:06:33.000 Here is Don Lemon doing his damnedest to ensure that people don't hear the truth about what Democrats are doing in the public square. 0.90

00:06:40.000 The real mob is a mob of white supremacists who killed a woman in Charlottesville. 0.97

00:06:44.000 Killed. 1.00

00:06:45.000 Killed.

00:06:48.000 People who are voicing their opinion about something that they don't believe in, or that they think is bad for them, is how the government, how the country works.

00:06:59.000 That's not a mob.

00:07:01.000 Well, I love that the only standard for a mob is they killed someone now.

00:07:04.000 There's never been a mob outside of mobs that kill somebody.

00:07:08.000 And by the way, it's important to note that in Charlottesville, the person who killed somebody did so when he got in his car and drove away from his own mob and then rammed into somebody.

00:07:16.000 So it wasn't like the mob went crazy, ran over a bunch of gates and then started destroying people.

00:07:20.000 They did that, but that didn't result in the death.

00:07:22.000 So even by his own logical standard, it doesn't make sense.

00:07:25.000 Charlottesville was a mob.

00:07:26.000 That's the point.

00:07:26.000 But it's not the only mob.

00:07:28.000 And yet, folks on CNN are very, very strong in their belief that the only sort of mob that's real is right-wing mobs.

00:07:35.000 Maxine Waters, also trotting out this talking point. 0.99

00:07:37.000 Maxine Waters, the same woman who said in front of a crowd that people should confront and get in the face of people at gas stations and restaurants and they should harass folks in public places. 0.96

00:07:47.000 Now she says, well, the only real type of mob is a mob that has to do with President Trump.

00:07:50.000 That's the only real kind of mob.

00:07:52.000 They're trying to change the description of protest and call it a mob.

00:07:58.000 Well, this president is the poster boy for what a mob protester looks like.

00:08:07.000 Okay, so Trump is the definition of a poster boy for a mob, but you're changing the definition of a mob in order to actually label mobs mobs.

00:08:16.000 Makes perfect sense to me.

00:08:18.000 Senator Mike Lee, he's a friend of mine and also, I think, a very solid citizen.

00:08:22.000 He came out and he said, listen, he got doxxed last week, meaning that there was a staffer for a Democrat who revealed his personal information.

00:08:30.000 He says, that's sort of unsafe.

00:08:31.000 That seems sort of like a mob tactic, maybe.

00:08:33.000 It's terrible.

00:08:35.000 It leaves us feeling very unsafe.

00:08:41.000 My wife has had to be followed to the park by the local police.

00:08:46.000 It's not a pleasant thing.

00:08:49.000 The fact that the Democrats are now suggesting they're not involved in these sorts of mob tactics is really kind of astonishing, especially because there's a long history of Democrats using the mobs as political tools.

00:08:59.000 See, there is this strategy, it's called, Fred Siegel, who's an author of a great book called The Future Was Once Here, about major American cities destroyed by democratic liberalism.

00:09:12.000 He calls it riot ideology.

00:09:14.000 Riot ideology, according to Fred Siegel, is this belief that riots are a reflection of deep underlying social ills that can only be cured by more government.

00:09:21.000 And what you would see from the Democrats is an attempt to actually forward mob politics, to forward the mob, to feed the braying mob, to make the mob larger, to encourage riots, and then turn around and say, look at this. 0.52

00:09:31.000 This riot is happening because the people are angry.

00:09:34.000 The only way to cure this is to give the people what they want, aka more government or dollars or something else.

00:09:40.000 This is a tactic of the Democrats.

00:09:42.000 It has been an actual tactic of Democrats for generations.

00:09:45.000 Marion Barry, who ended up being mayor of Washington, D.C., he said regarding the Black Panthers, who are a violent, actual terrorist group, he says, I know for a fact that white people get scared of the Panthers, and they might look at somebody a little bit more moderate and say, well, let's give them money.

00:09:58.000 And so, there he is, supporting the mob.

00:10:01.000 New York Mayor John Lindsay, who is a very, very liberal Republican, he said that mass unrest could be the spur to more leftist policies. 0.70

00:10:07.000 He said, quote, You remember when the left fully embraced the Occupy Wall Street movement, despite their crime and violence, despite the fact that they were occupying public places and turning them into pig sties?

00:10:21.000 Jake Harney, the White House press secretary under Obama, said of Occupy Wall Street, quote,

00:10:29.000 You remember when Barack Obama expressed sympathy for rioters in cities ranging from Baltimore to Ferguson?

00:10:34.000 He said this about the situation in Ferguson.

00:10:37.000 He said, Whenever we do that, the anger may momentarily subside, but over time, it builds up, and America isn't everything that it could be.

00:10:41.000 In other words, riots are always an expression of public anger, so long as the public anger moves us in the direction of more government liberalism.

00:11:00.000 In fact, Barack Obama was not afraid to use the mob as a catalyst for his policy preferences basically throughout his entire career.

00:11:07.000 Right after the 2008 financial crisis, President Obama takes office.

00:11:10.000 He has a big meeting with a bunch of bank CEOs.

00:11:13.000 And at that meeting, he turns to them and he says, you basically ought to cave to my entire agenda because if you don't, I will let the mob get you.

00:11:20.000 This is a direct quote from Barack Obama reported by Politico, quote, my administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks.

00:11:28.000 That is demagoguery.

00:11:29.000 Sheer demagoguery.

00:11:31.000 And of course, when it comes to sort of this casually violent language, President Obama is no exception.

00:11:35.000 He's used this language too.

00:11:37.000 It was Jim Messina, his White House Deputy Chief of Staff, who said the Democrats should punch back twice as hard.

00:11:42.000 It was Barack Obama who said, if they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.

00:11:45.000 And told people to get in their face.

00:11:48.000 Is Barack Obama saying that?

00:11:49.000 So all the talk about Trump is unique in American politics because of the way he talks and that's what's causing all of this?

00:11:54.000 Just not true. 0.99

00:11:55.000 You have to be historically ignorant to think this. 0.95

00:11:57.000 And it has been a long-standing part of the Democratic agenda to use mobs in order to achieve political purposes. 0.97

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00:13:18.000 So back to this Democratic mob politics routine.

00:13:21.000 I'm very familiar with this because they've been doing this on college campuses.

00:13:24.000 They basically incentivize violence on college campuses by saying that if things get too violent, well, then we'll just ban conservatives.

00:13:31.000 Very convenient.

00:13:32.000 There's violence over at Berkeley.

00:13:34.000 And so the administration will say, well, we've got to ban conservative speakers until we can get a hold of the situation.

00:13:39.000 Which is basically the rioter's veto.

00:13:42.000 We experienced this at DePaul University last year, when students suggested that they might get riotous and violent over me visiting campus.

00:13:49.000 And so DePaul simply banned me.

00:13:50.000 And then they threatened to arrest me if I showed up.

00:13:54.000 There's tape of me standing in front of a security guy, their head of security there, who's telling me that if I take one step forward, he will arrest me.

00:14:01.000 I mean, it's truly amazing stuff.

00:14:03.000 Democrats have engaged in this sort of stuff for a very long time, and it's always rich to hear what they're willing to label a mob.

00:14:09.000 Folks on the left were perfectly willing to label not only Trump supporters a mob, but go back a few years before that.

00:14:15.000 I'm old enough to remember the Tea Party, which was, in large part, a bunch of people standing around carrying Don't Tread on Me flags and reading the Declaration of Independence at rallies.

00:14:25.000 I went to a bunch of Tea Party events.

00:14:26.000 I spoke at a bunch of Tea Party events.

00:14:28.000 I was a charter member of the Tea Party.

00:14:30.000 The left called them mobs.

00:14:32.000 The left said that the Tea Partiers were mobs.

00:14:34.000 They said Occupy, which was involved in actual criminal activity, many, many, many, literally dozens and dozens, maybe hundreds of arrests across the country of Occupy protesters, that was not a mob.

00:14:44.000 But the Tea Party was a mob.

00:14:46.000 The Tea Party was really a mob. 0.99

00:14:48.000 Jimmy Hoffa Jr., I remember, there were some events in 2011, and I remember him introducing President Obama there and suggesting that the Tea Party were, quote, sons of bitches. 0.99

00:14:56.000 And he said, well, let's take these sons of bitches out, right? 1.00

00:14:59.000 Because they were a mob. 1.00

00:15:01.000 For Democrats, any form of Republican speech is demagoguery and being a mob.

00:15:06.000 Anytime you get more than two Republicans in an area together, it's a mob.

00:15:09.000 But Democrats who are actually charging the steps of the Supreme Court and bashing on the 13-ton doors and chanting, stop Brett Kavanaugh, those people are not a mob.

00:15:19.000 People who are running through the Senate heart building trying to buttonhole senators in elevators without security protocol, those people are not a mob.

00:15:26.000 It's not a mob when folks go to

00:15:28.000 Washington, D.C., find conservatives and then rip up their signs.

00:15:31.000 That's not a mob.

00:15:32.000 It's not a mob when you have Occupy Wall Street occupying large swaths of land and defiling and defacing it.

00:15:38.000 Not a mob.

00:15:39.000 The only mob is Charlottesville.

00:15:41.000 It's the only mob we've ever seen.

00:15:42.000 And we keep hearing this from the media.

00:15:44.000 It is the only mob.

00:15:45.000 The only mob is the mob in Charlottesville.

00:15:48.000 That, of course, is not true. 0.98

00:15:49.000 It's silly.

00:15:50.000 And more than that, it is obviously politically motivated, and the media are part of this whole routine. 0.72

00:15:55.000 So, the left is making the case that their politics is not the politics of the mob.

00:16:03.000 Instead, anybody who's angry at the politics of the mob, anybody who's angry at the attempt to get Brett Kavanaugh, for example, the mob justice that was attempted on Brett Kavanaugh, and it was mob justice, right?

00:16:13.000 There was no due process.

00:16:14.000 He was just going to have his life ended, essentially, by a bunch of people screaming.

00:16:20.000 The folks on the left have decided that any resistance to that is just because you are a privileged white person.

00:16:27.000 Charles Blow, who's aptly named over at the New York Times, he has a column today called White Male Victimization Anxiety.

00:16:34.000 And here is what he says.

00:16:35.000 He says, during the swearing in of Justice Brett Kavanaugh on Monday, Donald Trump took it upon himself to apologize to Kavanaugh and his family on behalf of our nation for the terrible pain and suffering you've been forced to endure.

00:16:46.000 He repeated the tire lines that he and Republicans hope will stick and steer the comatose base to electoral fervor that accusations of sexual assault against Kavanaugh were part of a campaign of political and personal destruction based on lies and deception.

00:16:58.000 They were.

00:16:58.000 And what happened to the Kavanaugh family violates every notion of fairness, decency, and due process.

00:17:03.000 It did.

00:17:04.000 But here's Charles Blow's perspective.

00:17:05.000 Vox has called it the unleashing of white male backlash.

00:17:26.000 This is very bad, by the way. 0.90

00:17:27.000 White males are not allowed to defend their rights. 0.96

00:17:29.000 If they do, this is just evidence that they are privileged.

00:17:32.000 So, if white males are given due process, then that shows that they are privileged. 0.64

00:17:36.000 And if they are not given due process, and then they get angry, that also shows that they are privileged.

00:17:41.000 So, just like every other major leftist argument these days, the conclusion is already assumed.

00:17:47.000 It's just a question of how you get there.

00:17:49.000 According to Charles Blow, the women accusing the white man of assault weren't the victims.

00:17:53.000 Instead, the white man was the victim.

00:17:55.000 Well, to be accurate, the actual accusation is that the women accusing the white man of assault didn't have any corroborative evidence, which means that you were trying to get this guy without any corroborative evidence whatsoever.

00:18:06.000 In some people's eyes, says Blow, he was the victim of political correctness, Me Too's overreach, a check your white male privilege culture drunk on its own self-righteousness.

00:18:14.000 All of which is true, because that's what happened.

00:18:17.000 But that's not really what this is about, according to Charles Blow.

00:18:21.000 Kavanaugh's belligerent offense and Trump's dismissal of the accusers.

00:18:24.000 He mocked one at a political rally and called the accusations a hoax.

00:18:28.000 You'll recall that some folks like me criticized that and said that he shouldn't have mocked Christine Blasey for it because he didn't know the facts either.

00:18:34.000 But according to Blow, they represent for many men a back-against-the-wall, no-more-space-to-retreat moment of fighting back, of pushing back, of standing proud in their patriarchy and proclaiming that it will not bend.

00:18:44.000 Now due process is patriarchy.

00:18:47.000 Now presumption of innocence is patriarchy.

00:18:49.000 Blow continues, they're saying enough.

00:18:51.000 They will cede no more ground.

00:18:53.000 They will share no more power.

00:18:54.000 They will accommodate no more ascendancy and validation of the oppressed.

00:18:58.000 Now you might want to add the word allegedly oppressed there because again, none of those allegations have actually been supported by any evidence.

00:19:04.000 He says that is what they are telling us and they are speaking through Trump.

00:19:07.000 He says the victim sensibility Trump is articulating is not generationally restricted.

00:19:12.000 In January, a PRRI MTV poll of 15 to 24 year olds found that 43% of young white men say discrimination against whites is as serious a problem as discrimination against other groups.

00:19:24.000 29% of young white women agreed with them, and nearly half believe efforts to increase diversity will harm white people.

00:19:30.000 Because, by nature, the definition of the left's attempts to increase diversity include harming white people.

00:19:35.000 Meaning, what the left wants from diversity is not ideological diversity or diversity of experience.

00:19:41.000 What the left says is that we should give slots that belong to qualified white people to unqualified non-white people.

00:19:47.000 This is an actual point that the left believes in.

00:19:51.000 I don't even know how the left can argue this particular logic.

00:19:53.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:19:55.000 If you are saying that there's a group of college admittees, of which too many are white, and we need to replace some of those white people with non-white people, how does that not harm white people? 0.73

00:20:04.000 You're gonna have to explain that one.

00:20:07.000 And as for the notion that discrimination against whites is as serious a problem as discrimination against other groups, there are two ways to read that question.

00:20:13.000 And I think that there's one accurate way and one inaccurate way.

00:20:16.000 The inaccurate way is to say that historically and presently, discrimination against black folks is not as bad as discrimination against white folks, with which I disagree. 0.74

00:20:27.000 And then there's the way to read it, which is that as a whole, the left is interested in stomping white dudes.

00:20:34.000 Because they think that there is a patriarchy that must be punished. 0.63

00:20:38.000 And that patriarchy has to do with the color of your skin, and therefore, if you're white, you don't get due process.

00:20:43.000 That part's true.

00:20:44.000 That part's true.

00:20:46.000 Well, we'll conclude Charles Blow's account in just a second, and we'll show why this is going to generate a backlash.

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00:21:59.000 Okay, so concluding Charles Blow's column in the New York Times in which he accuses white males of a sense of victimization,

00:22:05.000 He says that NPR's Domenico Montanaro pointed out in August that since Trump announced he was running for president, he has used the word unfair 69 times in tweets and since becoming president, 40 times.

00:22:19.000 And then he says, Trump's sense of fairness or unfairness really has driven him, his rise in politics and his priorities for the country.

00:22:24.000 He has capitalized on grievance, especially that of white Americans chafing at the culture of a demographically changing country and has expressed his view of what is unfair, everything from trade and immigration to the court system.

00:22:35.000 On this show, I have said that I don't like victimization culture.

00:22:38.000 I don't like it from white folks. 1.00

00:22:39.000 I don't like it from black folks. 1.00

00:22:40.000 I don't like the idea that you believe that you are a victim in a free society. 0.97

00:22:45.000 With that said, the left has been saying for years on end, the day of the white man is over.

00:22:51.000 The day of whites in this country is over. 0.99

00:22:52.000 Demographic shifts are going to completely change the way the culture is done. 0.99

00:22:56.000 And white men, it's time for you to sit down and shut up. 0.98

00:22:59.000 That is a form of discrimination. 0.97

00:23:02.000 If you actually want to make an argument in favor of a cultural shift in America, make the argument in favor of the cultural shift, but don't do it predicated on the color of the people that you're talking about.

00:23:10.000 That's what the left has done, and it's driving an awful lot of backlash.

00:23:15.000 And I think, to a certain extent, appropriate backlash.

00:23:18.000 If you say to a group of people, you no longer matter in American life, what do you think they're going to do?

00:23:23.000 What do you think they're going to do?

00:23:25.000 So, Charles Blow concludes, Well, maybe President Trump is on a mission to point out that discriminatory politics in any form is bad.

00:23:31.000 Or if he's not, he should be.

00:23:32.000 If he's not, he certainly should be.

00:23:53.000 I mean, that is a really biased take on what's going on in American politics, that Trump wants to bind together toxic masculinity and racial performance anxiety. 0.98

00:24:01.000 The suggestion being that the only people who are angry right now, the only people who are upset with the left, are toxic males who want to rape people, and whites who are underperforming. 0.99

00:24:10.000 Nonsense. 1.00

00:24:12.000 Nonsense.

00:24:13.000 I am angry at lack of due process.

00:24:15.000 And I am about as feminist as it is possible to be with regard to what women should be allowed to do in the United States.

00:24:21.000 They should have every right that men have.

00:24:22.000 And I've said that one million times on this program.

00:24:25.000 It'd be very difficult to label me toxically masculine.

00:24:28.000 And as for racial performance anxiety, this idea that what I'm really upset about is that white people are underperforming.

00:24:35.000 I don't really have that.

00:24:37.000 That's not a thing.

00:24:39.000 I'm not concerned about the color of people who are underperforming.

00:24:44.000 And I certainly am not one of these folks who is supposedly underperforming generally.

00:24:49.000 It'd be hard to make that case as well.

00:24:50.000 I am angry, however, and I'm angry at a left which seeks to divide us based on color. 0.91

00:24:55.000 And then the minute that you say, listen, stop dividing us based on color, the left says, oh, that's because you're a patriarchal discriminatory white man. 0.62

00:25:02.000 That's the logic being used right now. 0.74

00:25:04.000 Now, this will backlash.

00:25:05.000 This will backlash. 0.89

00:25:06.000 And the backlash is not just going to come from white folks.

00:25:08.000 The great lie of the left is that political correctness has been embraced by all minorities, and political correctness is only opposed by the white majority. 0.75

00:25:16.000 That's the live left.

00:25:17.000 Well, there is a new study out from Yasha Monk.

00:25:19.000 He's a lecturer on government at Harvard University.

00:25:22.000 And here's what he finds.

00:25:23.000 He says that Americans across cultural and ethnic lines don't like PC culture.

00:25:28.000 It annoys them.

00:25:29.000 They are sick of the left trying to shut down debate by simply shouting that you are of a particular color.

00:25:35.000 Here's what he writes at The Atlantic.

00:25:36.000 It's a fascinating article.

00:25:38.000 On social media, the country seems to divide into two neat camps.

00:25:41.000 Call them the woke and the resentful. 0.77

00:25:42.000 Team resentment is manned, pun very much intended, by people who are predominantly old and exclusively white. 0.67

00:25:48.000 Team woke is young, likely to be female, and predominantly black, brown, or Asian.

00:25:52.000 The white allies do their dutiful part.

00:25:54.000 These teams are roughly equal in number and they disagree most vehemently as well as most routinely about the catch-all known as political correctness.

00:26:01.000 Reality is nothing like this, says Yasha Monk over at The Atlantic.

00:26:06.000 As scholar Stephen Hawkins, Daniel Yudkin, Marion Juan-Torres, and Tim Dixon argue in a report published Wednesday, Hidden Tribes, A Study of America's Polarized Landscape, most Americans don't fit into either of these camps.

00:26:19.000 They also share a more common ground than the daily fights on social media might suggest, including a general aversion to PC culture.

00:26:26.000 The study was written by More in Common, an organization founded in memory of Joe Cox, who was a British MP murdered in the run-up to the Brexit referendum.

00:26:34.000 It was based on a nationally represented poll of 8,000 respondents between December 2017 and September 2018.

00:26:38.000 And here is what they find.

00:26:42.000 According to the report, 25% of Americans are traditional or devoted conservatives, and their views are far outside the American mainstream.

00:26:49.000 Some 8% of Americans are progressive activists, and their views are even less typical.

00:26:54.000 By contrast, two-thirds of Americans who don't belong to either extreme constitute an exhausted majority.

00:27:01.000 That would be most of us.

00:27:02.000 I'm a traditional devoted conservative, but I think I would also probably be a member of the exhausted majority.

00:27:07.000 Their members share a sense of fatigue with our polarized national conversation, a willingness to be flexible in their political viewpoints, and a lack of voice in the national conversation.

00:27:16.000 Most members of the exhausted majority, and then some, dislike political correctness.

00:27:20.000 Among the general population, a full 80%, 80% believe political correctness is a problem in our country.

00:27:28.000 Young people don't like political correctness. 1.00

00:27:31.000 74% between 24 and 29.

00:27:34.000 79% under age 24.

00:27:36.000 The woke are in a clear minority across all ages.

00:27:40.000 Race is also a bad proxy.

00:27:43.000 Whites are less likely than average to believe political correctness is a problem.

00:27:47.000 Less likely.

00:27:49.000 82% of Asians think political correctness is a problem.

00:27:52.000 87% of Hispanics think political correctness is a problem.

00:27:55.000 88% of American Indians think political correctness is a problem.

00:28:00.000 I love this.

00:28:01.000 One 40-year-old American Indian in Oklahoma said this, quote, So political correctness, in that sense, is scary.

00:28:14.000 The only part of the standard narrative that the data partially affirm is that black folks in the United States are more likely to support political correctness, but three-quarters of blacks still oppose political correctness.

00:28:26.000 So, it turns out the vast majority of Americans in every racial category are annoyed by the woke crowd and their insistence that nobody ever be offended.

00:28:35.000 So, Charles Blow's take, which is that we are allowed to racially polarize so long as we are targeting one political group, that's not popular.

00:28:45.000 That's not popular.

00:28:46.000 83% of respondents who make less than 50 grand dislike political correctness.

00:28:51.000 Just 70% of those who make more than 100 grand are skeptical about it.

00:28:55.000 Okay, so that means that the richer you get, the more you like political correctness.

00:28:58.000 So it's not poor people pushing political correctness.

00:29:00.000 It's not even minorities pushing political correctness.

00:29:03.000 It is disproportionately rich white people pushing political correctness.

00:29:08.000 That's amazing!

00:29:10.000 Now, there is a political gap here.

00:29:11.000 Among conservatives, 97% believe political correctness is a problem.

00:29:15.000 Among traditional liberals, 61% do.

00:29:17.000 The only ones who really, really, really like the woke culture are progressive activists.

00:29:22.000 Only 30% see political correctness as a problem.

00:29:25.000 They are far, far outside of the mainstream.

00:29:28.000 So, who's in this group according to The Atlantic?

00:29:30.000 I love this.

00:29:31.000 Compared with the rest of the polling sample, progressive activists are much more likely to be rich, highly educated, and white.

00:29:38.000 They are nearly twice as likely as the average to make more than a hundred grand a year.

00:29:41.000 They're nearly three times as likely to have a post-grad degree.

00:29:44.000 And while 12% of the overall sample in the study is African-American, only 3% of progressive activists are.

00:29:51.000 It's rich white kids.

00:29:52.000 Rich white kids. 0.73

00:29:54.000 Those are the people who are creating a lot of the problems in our society right now with their talk of divisive polarization and political correctness.

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00:32:28.000 So Americans hate, hate, hate, hate, hate political correctness.

00:32:31.000 But what do they mean by political correctness?

00:32:33.000 According to The Atlantic, in extended interviews and focus groups, participants made clear they were concerned about their day-to-day ability to express themselves.

00:32:41.000 They worry that a lack of familiarity with a topic or an unthinking word choice could lead to serious social sanctions for them.

00:32:47.000 So, they're not really sure what it means, but they know that they don't like the feeling of restriction that the woke left has created.

00:32:53.000 But there's plenty of support for the idea that Americans are not as neatly divided by age or race as is commonly believed.

00:32:59.000 According to Pew, only 26% of black Americans consider themselves liberal.

00:33:04.000 Nearly half of Latinos argue that many people nowadays are too sensitive to how Muslims are treated.

00:33:08.000 Two in five black folks say that immigration nowadays is bad for America.

00:33:13.000 In other words, this notion that demographics is destiny, which has been pushed by both sides of the political aisle to a certain extent, is just not true.

00:33:20.000 There is no shrinking white majority that is going to inevitably lead to liberal domination, and there is no inevitably increasing liberal majority that is going to lead to incredible victory over time.

00:33:33.000 People's minds can be changed, in other words.

00:33:34.000 We are individuals.

00:33:35.000 We are not just members of groups.

00:33:38.000 That's really important to remember in the middle of what is a very, very polarized news cycle.

00:33:43.000 And this is why the left has some serious problems even going forward.

00:33:48.000 Now, that doesn't mean that the right can't do things to alienate folks.

00:33:51.000 The right obviously can do things to alienate folks. 0.99

00:33:53.000 And, I would say, there's a difference between being politically incorrect and being a jerk. 0.98

00:33:57.000 And this is where the right has to be careful. 0.99

00:34:00.000 Not everything that you say that is offensive is just you being politically incorrect. 1.00

00:34:03.000 Sometimes it's you being a jerk. 1.00

00:34:05.000 If you use the N-word, that's not you being politically incorrect, it is you being a jerk. 1.00

00:34:10.000 If you say that men and women are different, that is politically incorrect and you're not being a jerk. 0.99

00:34:15.000 What I would recommend is that if you actually want to side with that middle of America that is tired of the standards that are being purveyed by the left, be polite, be civil, and be politically incorrect.

00:34:24.000 Say things that are factual, specifically because they are factual and not merely to offend.

00:34:29.000 Believe me, you don't have to purposely offend the left.

00:34:32.000 The left will be offended anyway.

00:34:33.000 None of it matters.

00:34:35.000 Hey, the left will always be offended.

00:34:36.000 I just spoke at USC last week and it was fascinating.

00:34:39.000 There was a young black woman who got up to ask a question and she said, you've been accused of inciting violence.

00:34:44.000 And I said, well, you've been here the whole time.

00:34:46.000 Have you heard anything that you think would incite violence?

00:34:48.000 And she thought about it for a second and she said, no, of course not.

00:34:52.000 Of course not.

00:34:53.000 The reason that folks on the left suggest that I incite violence is because they disagree with me.

00:34:58.000 That is why.

00:35:00.000 Well, it turns out that most Americans would rather have disagreement than impute violence to somebody who's not involved in violence.

00:35:05.000 And when the left equates speech and violence, and then says that their own violence is speech,

00:35:10.000 All they're doing is alienating the vast majority of the American people.

00:35:13.000 The left is now playing a game.

00:35:15.000 The Democratic Party is playing a game.

00:35:17.000 The speech of the right, they say, is violence, because right-wingers are bad, and their own violence is speech.

00:35:23.000 So when the left goes and pounds on the doors of the Supreme Court and acts threatening, that's just a form of speech.

00:35:29.000 That's just anger, according to CNN.

00:35:31.000 But if folks on the right say stuff that offends people, that's now a form of violence.

00:35:35.000 On CNN Headline News, when I say a man is a man and a woman is a woman, and some transgender woman grips me by the back of the neck and threatens me bodily harm, those two things are equivalent. 1.00

00:35:46.000 Me saying a man is a man and a woman is a woman, according to the left, is the equivalent of somebody grabbing me physically on national television and threatening to send me home in an ambulance, which is literally what happened, and also makes no sense because you don't go home in an ambulance.

00:35:59.000 The left

00:36:01.000 is engaged in this really polarizing game, and most Americans don't buy in.

00:36:06.000 That's what we found out in the Trump era.

00:36:08.000 Most Americans don't buy in.

00:36:09.000 Now, that doesn't mean that Trump's gonna win from here to eternity.

00:36:12.000 It doesn't mean that Republicans always win.

00:36:13.000 Republicans are not good at this game.

00:36:15.000 They are not. 1.00

00:36:16.000 And again, when you mistake political incorrectness for being a jerk, or vice versa, you are making a rather large mistake yourself. 0.98

00:36:23.000 But it is important to note that this notion on the left that the woke majority is just all the black people and all the women and everybody else, it's just not true statistically. 0.97

00:36:33.000 And that's a very, very important thing to keep in mind.

00:36:35.000 We still have more in common than not.

00:36:39.000 And you can be fooled by watching our politics or watching social media.

00:36:42.000 I get fooled too.

00:36:43.000 But it's not reality.

00:36:45.000 It's not reality.

00:36:46.000 Okay, speaking of folks who are not living in reality, there is a leaked report from Google.

00:36:50.000 It was leaked to Breitbart, and it's just an amazing report.

00:36:54.000 So Breitbart reports, This goes to exactly what I'm saying.

00:36:56.000 Folks on the left have decided that if there's speech they don't like, it is equivalent to violence.

00:36:58.000 And thus it must be shut down.

00:37:14.000 Despite leaked video footage showing top executives declaring their intention to ensure that the rise of Trump and the populist movement is just a blip in its history, Google has repeatedly denied that the political bias of its employees filters into its product.

00:37:26.000 But, the 85-page briefing titled The Good Censor, I mean, how Orwellian is that?

00:37:32.000 They actually have a briefing at Google called The Good Censor.

00:37:38.000 Great job, guys.

00:37:43.000 In a second, I'm going to go through this report and explain to you why this is so bad.

00:37:51.000 Plus, I want to talk a little bit about this horrific situation with the Saudi government allegedly murdering a Saudi dissident at the embassy in Turkey and what the Trump administration should do about it.

00:38:03.000 So, what's in this Google report?

00:38:05.000 Well, here's what it says.

00:38:06.000 First, it says in the report that users are asking if the openness of the internet should be celebrated after all.

00:38:13.000 And they say that free speech has become a social, economic, and political weapon.

00:38:17.000 If you are Google, and you say political speech is a weapon, I would suggest you don't understand what free speech is.

00:38:23.000 They say that the early free speech ideals of the internet were utopian.

00:38:28.000 They even point out that maybe they shouldn't be considered a platform anymore.

00:38:32.000 I've said this on the program before.

00:38:34.000 Platforms, it's like AT&T, right?

00:38:36.000 You pick up a phone, you can say what you want on the phone line, and AT&T doesn't shut down the conversation based on what you say.

00:38:42.000 That makes it a platform.

00:38:43.000 If AT&T were to be like the Daily Wire, then they would actually be a publisher, right?

00:38:47.000 They could decide what is and is not published.

00:38:50.000 If that's the case, then they have all sorts of legal liabilities you don't have.

00:38:53.000 As a platform, Google's essentially admitting they might in fact be a publisher, not a platform.

00:38:58.000 The briefing from Google identifies several factors that allegedly eroded faith in free speech.

00:39:03.000 The election of Donald Trump and the alleged Russian involvement is identified as one such factor.

00:39:07.000 So basically, Democrats browbeated Google into believing that they are responsible through allowing free speech into Donald Trump being president.

00:39:16.000 And then they talk about the rise of online hate speech.

00:39:19.000 And then they also talk about spreading conspiracy theories.

00:39:24.000 But the most important thing appears on pages 66 through 68.

00:39:28.000 Their briefing argues that Google, Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter are caught between two incompatible positions.

00:39:33.000 First, the unmediated marketplace of ideas.

00:39:37.000 Right, that would be the free speech tradition of the United States.

00:39:40.000 And second, the well-ordered spaces for safety and civility, which would be

00:39:45.000 The second tradition is described as the European tradition, which favors dignity over liberty and civility over freedom.

00:39:50.000 And then the briefing concludes, all tech platforms are now moving toward the European tradition.

00:40:06.000 That's scary stuff.

00:40:08.000 That's very scary stuff.

00:40:09.000 And that is political correctness come to life.

00:40:12.000 That is all your social media companies siding with the woke left that most Americans don't like.

00:40:17.000 Saying we should shut down ideas, we should redirect people's eyeballs, we should move people toward a civility that we want.

00:40:22.000 And we will define civility.

00:40:24.000 Civility may not include your viewpoint.

00:40:26.000 This is dangerous, dangerous stuff and it's one of the reasons why we should all be very wary of these massive social media companies that seem to be targeting specific political points of view.

00:40:35.000 Now, I do want to talk a little bit about the situation with regard to Jamal Khashoggi.

00:40:40.000 He is a columnist or was a columnist for the Washington Post.

00:40:43.000 He's been missing since entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul last week.

00:40:47.000 The Turkish police allege that he went into the consulate and that he was then murdered by members of the Saudi consulate.

00:40:53.000 That basically the Saudis brought in 15 people, a kill squad, to go into the consulate, kill this guy, dismember him, and then bury him.

00:41:00.000 The Saudi government is still denying foul play.

00:41:03.000 The Turkish government has provided specifics and evidence.

00:41:06.000 There's video of Khashoggi entering the consulate, and they've provided the names of 15 Saudi agents that it says flew to Istanbul in pursuit of him.

00:41:12.000 The Saudis have issued blanket denials.

00:41:15.000 But this is raising some very serious issues for the United States, because the Trump administration has been very close to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

00:41:22.000 And that's because Salman has been treated as a reformer.

00:41:25.000 He's somebody who supposedly wants to move away from some of the fundamentalism of Saudi Arabia.

00:41:29.000 He's been involved in the creation of an anti-Iranian alliance in the Middle East.

00:41:32.000 The United States has heavily funded the Saudi government in their fight in Yemen because the Saudis are basically having a proxy war with Iran in Yemen.

00:41:40.000 And so this has raised questions because Khashoggi was a legal resident of the United States.

00:41:44.000 This has raised questions about whether the United States ought to punish the Saudis by withdrawing support for their arms.

00:41:51.000 We should stop selling them weaponry, for example.

00:41:54.000 The reason that this is a dicey issue is not because we should keep providing them arms on a moral level.

00:41:59.000 The reason it's a dicey issue is because there is another party at the table, and that is the Iranian government, which is an actual terrorist government.

00:42:05.000 And the Turkish government is much more warm with the Iranians than they are with the Saudis.

00:42:09.000 The Turkish government right now is holding a U.S.

00:42:11.000 pastor in prison, so none of these regimes are great.

00:42:13.000 But it does provide the Trump administration with a choice.

00:42:15.000 Choice number one is basically slap the Saudis on the wrist, pretend that nothing bad happened. 1.00

00:42:19.000 Choice number two is to basically downgrade the Saudi relationship with the United States over all of this.

00:42:26.000 To suggest that the choice doesn't have ramifications or that it's easy is to misread the nature of global politics.

00:42:32.000 My tendency is to say that if this happened, you have to downgrade the Saudis. 0.88

00:42:36.000 There's just no way around it.

00:42:37.000 You have to withdraw armed support for the Saudis and they have to be punished because this cannot be allowed to go on by an American ally. 0.98

00:42:44.000 We should also remember that there are geopolitical considerations at play, and backing the Iranians in order to stop the Saudis, or allowing the Iranians to run roughshod through the Middle East because the Saudis did something evil here, would not be a good outcome either.

00:42:57.000 Sometimes there is no good outcome.

00:42:59.000 And it's just awful the Saudis put the United States in this position, geopolitically, and also, obviously, a lot more awful that it sounds like they murdered a guy because he was a dissident at their consulate in Istanbul.

00:43:09.000 It's just, just terrible, just terrible.

00:43:12.000 Okay, so, as we continue, we'll talk a little bit more about that, and we'll get to some things I like and things I hate.

00:43:16.000 So, President Trump has sounded off on this.

00:43:18.000 Yesterday, he came out, he said, listen, we can't let this happen.

00:43:21.000 This can't be a thing.

00:43:23.000 This is a bad situation.

00:43:25.000 We cannot let this happen.

00:43:27.000 To reporters, to anybody, we can't let this happen.

00:43:31.000 And we're gonna get to the bottom of it, okay?

00:43:34.000 Okay, so, obviously, Trump very unhappy about this.

00:43:36.000 Lindsey Graham, who's been a big Trump ally, he says, there'll be hell to pay if this guy actually was murdered.

00:43:42.000 I've never been more disturbed than I am right now.

00:43:44.000 If this did in fact happen, if this man was murdered in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, that would cross every line of normality in the international community.

00:43:55.000 If it did happen, it would be hell to pay.

00:43:58.000 OK, now let's point out that would anybody be that surprised?

00:44:03.000 I mean, the Saudi Arabian government has been a dictatorship, a rather evil dictatorship for several generations now. 0.83

00:44:10.000 So I don't think anybody would be supremely surprised if it turns out that this is what happened.

00:44:14.000 But it will necessitate action on the part of the United States.

00:44:17.000 And as I say, that action could take one of two forms.

00:44:19.000 Eli Lake has a good piece over at Bloomberg talking about all of this.

00:44:22.000 He says, there's a deeper problem with the slap on the wrist.

00:44:24.000 It lets the Saudis believe the U.S. 1.00

00:44:26.000 needs them more than they need us.

00:44:27.000 It effectively puts the Saudis in control of the alliance. 0.73

00:44:30.000 And what about the more severe response?

00:44:31.000 Well, Saudi Arabia would definitely get the message, and other U.S.

00:44:34.000 allies would understand there are consequences if America recalled its top diplomat and supported a U.N.

00:44:39.000 resolution.

00:44:39.000 But that risks undermining Prince Mohammed bin Salman, and the alternatives in Saudi Arabia aren't much better.

00:44:45.000 The U.S.

00:44:45.000 has an interest in his success.

00:44:47.000 What's more, less U.S. 0.91

00:44:48.000 military engagement in Yemen could actually lead to more civilian casualties.

00:44:53.000 So, we will find out what happens here.

00:44:55.000 My guess, in the end, is that the United States does a mixture.

00:44:58.000 That the United States punishes the Saudis temporarily and then comes back to them in three months and talks about what they can do to rectify the relationship.

00:45:06.000 That's the probable outcome.

00:45:09.000 But suffice it to say that it's deeply disturbing and messed up that the Saudi Arabian government decided to put the United States in this position aside from the innate evil of killing a man who apparently was going to this embassy to get a marriage license.

00:45:22.000 Just terrible stuff.

00:45:23.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.

00:45:26.000 So things that I like, I wanna give a shout out to Encounter Books.

00:45:29.000 Encounter Books is a wonderful publisher.

00:45:31.000 They do incredible work.

00:45:32.000 I've been a big fan of the stuff that they do over at Encounter for a very, very long time.

00:45:38.000 They publish some of my favorite authors, people like Heather MacDonald, published by Encounter Books.

00:45:43.000 Just too many authors over there to name.

00:45:45.000 They're having their 20th anniversary gala this weekend.

00:45:47.000 Unfortunately, I wasn't able to go, but if you are in New York, you should think about going.

00:45:52.000 It really should be a kick.

00:45:55.000 Yeah, good for them.

00:45:55.000 Encounter does tremendous, tremendous stuff.

00:45:58.000 And I believe it's still Roger Kimball over there.

00:45:59.000 They do just excellent, excellent work.

00:46:02.000 So if you go check out all of their published works, very intellectual publications.

00:46:07.000 I really like Encounter.

00:46:07.000 Okay, other things that I like.

00:46:09.000 So, shout out to the producer of James Bond, Barbara Broccoli, who's a longtime executive producer, and the daughter of the franchise creator, Albert Broccoli.

00:46:17.000 She says that James Bond will never be a woman.

00:46:19.000 Well,

00:46:22.000 Good. 0.88

00:46:23.000 Because, um, what the hell? 0.89

00:46:25.000 Why would James Bond ever be a woman? 1.00

00:46:27.000 Like, it wouldn't make any sense if James Bond were a woman who's attracting guys. 0.99

00:46:31.000 Like, the key to James Bond as a character is that he is a rogue, right?

00:46:34.000 He's a rogue who attracts women. 0.96

00:46:36.000 Now, the reason that that makes him unique is because women and men do not treat sex the same way.

00:46:41.000 You know, James Bond is quote-unquote a player, right?

00:46:44.000 He's a player with a heart, right?

00:46:45.000 He always finds a woman in one of these films, a beautiful woman, and then she falls for him, and then they sleep together.

00:46:50.000 At least one woman per film. 0.78

00:46:52.000 Now, you want to know what you call a woman who can get a guy in bed? 1.00

00:46:55.000 A woman.

00:46:56.000 Right, that's what we call that, right?

00:46:58.000 Guys are not the same about sex as women. 0.99

00:47:00.000 So if you had a beautiful woman and she's like, ooh, she was able to get that guy in bed, that is not any sort of actual plot line because there's no tension whatsoever in the plot line.

00:47:10.000 I mentioned this study the other night at...

00:47:13.000 University at Buffalo one of my favorite social science studies ever from 1989 there is it's I think it's Clark and Hatfield are the guys who did this study and the study was they took an attractive female and they had her go to a bar and proposition a bunch of guys want to come home with me tonight they had an attractive male go into a bar and proposition a bunch of females want to come home with me tonight 75% of dudes proposition by the female said yes

00:47:34.000 Zero women said yes. 0.99

00:47:36.000 Zero. 0.99

00:47:36.000 For people who think that men and women are exactly the same about matter of sexual, that is just asinine. 0.99

00:47:41.000 In fact, turning James Bond into a woman makes no sense at all. 0.87

00:47:46.000 And the way that you can tell this is they tried to do this with Atomic Blonde and it was a box office failure.

00:47:50.000 There was nothing about Atomic Blonde and Charlize Theron in Atomic Blonde where she couldn't have been a dude.

00:47:54.000 Like, they could have literally had a dude say every one of those lines and do every one of those actions and the movie would have worked in almost exactly the same way.

00:48:02.000 Nobody actually wants to see

00:48:05.000 A woman play James Bond. 0.96

00:48:06.000 I'm sorry to break it to folks.

00:48:07.000 If you want to create a new character who's not James Bond and is female and is written uniquely female, go for it. 0.72

00:48:12.000 But men and women are not interchangeable on screen or in real life.

00:48:15.000 Okay, time for a couple of things that I hate.

00:48:21.000 So now I have to tell you a story.

00:48:25.000 My producer, Colton, who travels with me when we are on the road, young Colton, we were on the road and we did an event in Detroit.

00:48:34.000 Great event.

00:48:34.000 And we're with our security detail also.

00:48:38.000 It's both tragic that I have to have a security detail in order to go around giving speeches, but it's also fun in the sense that I really like the guys on my security detail.

00:48:45.000 They're all ex-military and they're a blast and they're really a kick.

00:48:47.000 So we go to this event in Detroit.

00:48:50.000 Great event at a church.

00:48:51.000 And afterward, there are a bunch of off-duty police officers who are there, who are fans.

00:48:55.000 And one of them says, OK, I know you need to get to the airport.

00:48:58.000 How about we give you a police escort?

00:49:00.000 And I said, OK, sure.

00:49:00.000 Sounds great.

00:49:01.000 So this female police officer jumps into her car. 1.00

00:49:04.000 And we're cruising down the highway toward the airport to get on our flight.

00:49:08.000 And she's got her lights on.

00:49:10.000 And suddenly, behind us, pulls up another cop.

00:49:15.000 And this other cop pulls us over.

00:49:18.000 And we were like, okay, so why are you pulling us over?

00:49:21.000 And the first thing he says is, because you're following a police officer.

00:49:25.000 And we were like, well, right, because she's guiding us to the airport.

00:49:30.000 And he says, really?

00:49:30.000 That's her?

00:49:31.000 She's guiding you to the airport?

00:49:32.000 Yes.

00:49:33.000 She's giving us an escort to the airport.

00:49:34.000 And he said, well, your brights were on.

00:49:36.000 Like, no, our brights were not on.

00:49:38.000 You're just making that up.

00:49:40.000 And then, because all the guys in my security detail are ex-military, one of them starts to get out of the car to talk to the police officer.

00:49:46.000 And the police officer is getting real uptight now.

00:49:47.000 Get back in the car!

00:49:48.000 Get back in the car! 1.00

00:49:49.000 I'm like, God, I'm gonna get shot on the side of the freeway by a cop with a stick up his butt. 1.00

00:49:54.000 And here's the part that's amazing. 1.00

00:49:55.000 This is the best part.

00:49:56.000 So the police officer who was guiding us there has now pulled over on the side of the freeway as well.

00:50:01.000 And so we say to this police officer, why don't you go and ask the person in that car?

00:50:05.000 And he says, well, I don't know.

00:50:06.000 That's a police officer.

00:50:08.000 And we say, well, that's a police car.

00:50:12.000 And this officer says, well, you know, there are people on our force who go home at night and, you know, they build police cars and they just ride around in them.

00:50:20.000 Now, number one, that's not a thing.

00:50:22.000 Number two, if that's happening and you are posing as a police officer, that's a crime.

00:50:29.000 So if you actually think that that is a person who has built a formal police car and is driving around with their lights on off-duty, shouldn't you go arrest the person doing that, you know, 10 feet in front of us and not bother us?

00:50:42.000 Eventually, this police officer goes and actually asks the other police officer what's going on.

00:50:46.000 She says, yes, I'm a police officer.

00:50:47.000 I'm guiding these people.

00:50:48.000 And the guy kind of gives us a stern shake of his head and gets into his car and then drives away.

00:50:53.000 The reason I tell this story is, as you know, on the show, I am very pro-police officer.

00:50:57.000 I think law enforcement does an amazing job overall in the United States.

00:51:01.000 I love police officers.

00:51:02.000 I defend police officers.

00:51:03.000 I'm one of the biggest defenders of police officers in America.

00:51:07.000 The reason I tell this story is because one of the narratives you hear a lot is that police action, when it's bad action, is a result of racism.

00:51:15.000 Something bad happens to a black person, it's automatically the result of racism. 0.98

00:51:19.000 I am here to tell you, there are some police officers who are just doofs. 0.98

00:51:24.000 I don't know what this guy's name was.

00:51:25.000 I don't know his badge number.

00:51:26.000 I wish I had it. 0.82

00:51:27.000 Okay, but this police officer was a doof. 0.99

00:51:30.000 He was a doof. 1.00

00:51:31.000 And it is important to recognize that in every profession, there are doofs. 0.99

00:51:34.000 So when something bad happens, instead of immediately leaping to the conclusion that it must be systemic racism because police officers hate black folks, instead, we might want to think about the possibility that the police officer is just a doof. 0.98

00:51:45.000 The kind of doof who would pull you over 1.00

00:51:47.000 for following another police officer.

00:51:49.000 I mean, frankly, if you thought the police officer in front of us was not a police officer and was a civilian impersonating a police officer, you should have given us a medal for making a citizen's arrest against somebody who's impersonating a police officer.

00:52:00.000 It was just insane.

00:52:01.000 I mean, it was really funny.

00:52:04.000 One of the guys was like, well, we were kind of behind the other police car when he pulled up to talk to the second officer.

00:52:10.000 He's like, should we pull up?

00:52:11.000 And I was like, no, just sit still, okay?

00:52:13.000 This guy is super jumpy.

00:52:14.000 I really don't want the headline tomorrow to read, Shapiro and security team shot to death by officer for following a police officer to the airport.

00:52:25.000 It'd be a long headline, number one.

00:52:27.000 And number two, that's just, that's a bad way to go.

00:52:30.000 So, that's my crazy story from this particular troupe.

00:52:32.000 Okay, other things that I hate.

00:52:34.000 So, CNN.

00:52:35.000 They hate racism over at CNN.

00:52:37.000 Unless it's a bunch of saying, a bunch of people saying kind of racist things about Kanye West.

00:52:40.000 And they kind of like racism. 0.99

00:52:41.000 So, there was a full panel on CNN in which all of the members of the panel decided that it was totally okay to call Kanye West a token Negro and suggest that he is stupid because of his race. 0.99

00:52:52.000 But now all of a sudden, Kanye, because he's put on a MAGA hat and he's an attention whore like the president, he's all of a sudden now the model spokesperson. 0.99

00:53:00.000 He's the token Negro of the Trump administration. 1.00

00:53:04.000 This is ridiculous. 0.99

00:53:06.000 Okay, so that's great. 0.98

00:53:09.000 I'm glad that we now know that folks on the left can call people token Negroes and that's totally fine. 1.00

00:53:14.000 It is amazing what the left can get away with simply because they are members of the political left.

00:53:17.000 There's a reason people are not fond of this sort of rhetoric.

00:53:21.000 It's gross.

00:53:22.000 Okay, we will be back here tomorrow.

00:53:24.000 I will be back in Los Angeles, ensconced in my beautiful studios.

00:53:28.000 Unlike the Washington Post says, my studios are very nice.

00:53:30.000 Ensconced in our beautiful studios.

00:53:32.000 And I will be taking your questions in the mailbag.

00:53:34.000 So make sure to subscribe now is a good time to do it.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - October 11, 2018

Screaming To Victory | Ep. 636

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