The Ben Shapiro Show - September 22, 2026


She Wrote a Pulitzer About Race. Then She Did This to Her Own Child.

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00:00:00.000 Well, Nicole Hannah Jones, you remember her.
00:00:02.000 She was the author of the 1619 Project, and she's a great example of a journalismer, somebody who masquerades as a journalist to push a narrative.
00:00:09.000 Well, it turns out that she is so much of a left winger, she actually put her kid in a failing school to make a point.
00:00:16.000 So remember the 1619 Project from the New York Times?
00:00:18.000 That was the BS project to try to recast all of American history as fruit of the poisonous tree. 0.75
00:00:24.000 All of American history was born in slavery.
00:00:27.000 Nicole Hannah Jones is one of the journalismers who won a Pulitzer for attempting to rewrite American history falsely with a bunch of actual bad information. 1.00
00:00:35.000 Question Does she have a right to a White House seat? 1.00
00:00:37.000 Apparently, yes. 0.68
00:00:38.000 Well, now, again, all the masks come off over time.
00:00:41.000 Just as Sam Donaldson's mask came off with me, Nicole Hannah Jones' mask was barely ever on.
00:00:46.000 So, back in 2016, Nicole Hannah Jones wrote an entire op ed about how she was going to choose a school for her daughter that sucked in order to make the point that black schools in the New York City area are discriminated against. 0.82
00:00:59.000 So, she claimed that essentially the reason that largely black schools sucked in the New York City area was because of discrimination.
00:01:07.000 The evidence For this claim was basically non existent. 0.99
00:01:10.000 But she claimed it anyway. 0.98
00:01:13.000 She said back then that she was going to put her daughter, Naya, in a high poverty, all black school. 0.52
00:01:21.000 She said that while suburban parents, who are mostly white, say they are selecting schools based on test scores, the racial makeup of the school actually plays a larger role in their school decision, according to a 2009 study published in the American Journal of Education. 0.96
00:01:34.000 So she claims that the reason that people don't send their kids to crappy schools is because there are too many black kids there, as opposed to the idea that they are. 0.97
00:01:40.000 Crappy schools. 0.99
00:01:41.000 And to prove this, she was going to put her own child, Nija, in a crappy, high poverty, all black school. 0.99
00:01:48.000 And she wrote, Are we experimenting with our child based on our idealism about public schools? 0.98
00:01:52.000 Are we putting her at a disadvantage?
00:01:53.000 Is what her husband asked her.
00:01:54.000 She said, I had moments when I couldn't ignore the nagging fear that in my quest for fairness, I was being unfair to my own daughter.
00:02:00.000 I worried, I worry still about whether I made the right decision for our little girl, but I knew I made the just one.
00:02:05.000 True integration, true equality requires a surrendering of advantage.
00:02:08.000 And when it comes to our own children, that can feel almost unnatural.
00:02:12.000 So basically, you need to send your kid to a crappy school in order to make the point that some schools are crappy.
00:02:19.000 Because again, she has this premise, and the premise is that the crappy schools are crappy because of racism. 0.99
00:02:24.000 And so she was going to solve that somehow by taking her own black child and putting her in an all black crappy school in New York City. 0.99
00:02:30.000 Well, now it's 10 years later, and it turns out the crappy school was crappy. 0.99
00:02:34.000 So she took the stick and she stuck it in her own bicycle, folks, and now she's crying about it.
00:02:40.000 She has a piece in the New York Times.
00:02:43.000 Basically, complaining about the New York City public school system and saying that she might have betrayed her own child by doing this.
00:02:49.000 By the way, her husband, Faraji Hannah Jones, is currently the New York City Public Schools Contracts Committee Chair.
00:02:55.000 So if she's going to blame somebody, I mean, she could look inside her own house.
00:02:59.000 But here is what she writes in her op ed today, which, again, these are your journalismers, gang.
00:03:04.000 Not objective.
00:03:05.000 They care very much whose ox is gored.
00:03:07.000 She says, Toward the end of first grade, Naja started sometimes saying she didn't like her school.
00:03:13.000 And complained how chaotic it was at lunch.
00:03:15.000 I decided to visit during the lunch period and was shocked by what I saw.
00:03:18.000 Naija's class and another class were sitting at their tables in the cafeteria with no lunch and no adult supervision.
00:03:23.000 Children were running wild, chasing, hitting, and pushing each other, while the teachers, aides, and cafeteria workers stood by looking bored.
00:03:28.000 Several times I had to instruct children to stop striking each other and to sit down, at one point, physically pulling two boys apart.
00:03:34.000 When I asked one of the aides why the children were being supervised, she told me the lunch period was short staffed. 0.76
00:03:39.000 After I sat back down with Naija, she told me it's always like this, and that's why I don't want to go to the school. 0.62
00:03:43.000 So, did mommy pull her from the crappy school?
00:03:45.000 Absolutely not.
00:03:47.000 Of course not. 1.00
00:03:48.000 She just left her there to suffer.
00:03:50.000 Naija's principal regularly wouldn't engage with us or wasn't in the building at all.
00:03:54.000 In Naija's third grade year, her teacher missed a significant number of days, leading Naija to complain about the substitute teachers who rarely taught and how sometimes there was no substitute at all.
00:04:02.000 On those days, she and the other students would be sent to the second grade or sometimes the kindergarten class where they would be made to work on their own, and I would have to once again call the principal only to wait for days for a response.
00:04:13.000 Naija believed herself to be good at math, it was her favorite subject, but now I understood she thought she was correctly solving all her problems because her teacher was not checking her work.
00:04:20.000 Similarly, Naija's writing assignments were rife with uncorrected punctuation, capitalization, and grammar errors. 0.99
00:04:25.000 So, of course, she's attributing this to lack of funding and the school choice system because it turns out that the only way, apparently, to make these high poverty, all black schools better is to force other people into those high poverty, all black schools who don't want to be there. 0.57
00:04:40.000 Okay, or maybe there's a confound here. 0.59
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00:06:04.000 Maybe the problem with these schools doesn't have to do predominantly with funding and with race.
00:06:08.000 Maybe it has to do with the behavior of the parents of students.
00:06:12.000 One of the most robust social science findings is that the behavior of parents is predictive of the behavior of children in schools. 0.79
00:06:19.000 That it turns out that impoverished Asian schools are going to behave differently than impoverished black schools, depending on the number of single parents in the home.
00:06:27.000 For example, these are confounds, these are statistical confounds, not racial dependent.
00:06:32.000 But parental behavior dependent.
00:06:34.000 And that confounds totally escapes Nicole Hannah Jones. 1.00
00:06:38.000 She seems to think that if you just dump more money into these schools, they fix themselves. 0.57
00:06:41.000 Wrong.
00:06:42.000 Wrong.
00:06:42.000 Or that if you kill the school choice system so more kids can escape these bad schools and you force them into crappy schools, then it will fix the school.
00:06:50.000 But she forced her own kids into this crappy school.
00:06:51.000 Hell, her husband is involved in the New York City school system and she couldn't fix the school in any way. 0.98
00:06:58.000 So what does she do naturally? 0.99
00:06:59.000 She blames the system. 1.00
00:07:00.000 She blames the system.
00:07:02.000 I felt overcome with regret.
00:07:04.000 Naja deserved better.
00:07:05.000 They all did, but she was mine.
00:07:06.000 This girl, my only child, looked to me to protect her, to give her what she needed to thrive, and I had not chosen her.
00:07:11.000 I almost cannot type the words because when I do, an image of her in her blue school uniform, her hair and beaded cornrows that clicked when she swung them, with her sweet baby toothed smile springs to mind, and the tears come.
00:07:20.000 Now, again, the normal reaction of a parent is to put your kid in the best school possible and then fight for the school.
00:07:26.000 But that's not true for all parents.
00:07:27.000 And when you put your kid in schools where parents are not involved, this is what tends to happen. 0.64
00:07:34.000 But instead, she just blames the system.
00:07:35.000 Quote, instead of fortifying our determination to fight for integration, again, she pretends this is about school integration.
00:07:41.000 Again, segregation is illegal in the United States, illegal.
00:07:44.000 It has been for half a century and more.
00:07:47.000 Instead of that, she's going to claim that it's all about racial segregation.
00:07:51.000 We have instead chosen, she says, to succumb to a collective apathy in the face of a system so devastatingly unequal that it puts at odds trying to be a good person with trying to be a good parent.
00:08:01.000 As long as we continue to rescue our own children from the failing schools where we allow other people's children to languish simply because those children have been born black and poor in a nation of racism and riches, there's no absolution here.
00:08:12.000 Well, hold up. 0.82
00:08:14.000 I don't believe that we're allowing people's children to languish because they're born black and poor. 0.87
00:08:18.000 In fact, I don't think.
00:08:19.000 I'm allowing anyone's child to languish.
00:08:22.000 The only children that I can control are my own.
00:08:25.000 And I don't allow them to languish.
00:08:27.000 And that's true for Nicole Hannah Jones as well.
00:08:29.000 And me putting my kid in a crappy school does not fix the school.
00:08:32.000 It doesn't.
00:08:34.000 That's not how any of this works.
00:08:36.000 The failed premise here is the one that she refuses to acknowledge.
00:08:40.000 This is why the best thing a parent can do.
00:08:42.000 This is why, whenever you hear a politician talk about they're all our children, no, they are not.
00:08:46.000 They are your child.
00:08:47.000 Okay.
00:08:48.000 Your child is your child.
00:08:50.000 And if you got your priorities straight, your child comes first.
00:08:53.000 That is the way that it ought to work.
00:08:54.000 Otherwise, you end up with crappy policy.
00:08:56.000 Like, for example, one of the reasons why presumably nausea was doing so well in math despite not knowing math is because when you shift the incentive structures for government to get people to just pass through and you earn more money by passing people through, you pass more people through.
00:09:09.000 And now New York is ending its longstanding requirement that high school students pass a prescribed set of regents exams to graduate.
00:09:16.000 So, starting with the class of 2028, students will no longer be required to pass a specific set of regents exams to earn a diploma.
00:09:24.000 So, again, their solution to underachievement is going to be get rid of the testing.
00:09:29.000 Genius level stuff.
00:09:30.000 That's from Spectrum Local News in New York.
00:09:32.000 Remember, she was one of your prize journalists.
00:09:35.000 She was an activist.
00:09:36.000 She still is an activist, but she was a journalist.
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