The Ben Shapiro Show - September 20, 2017


Should Jimmy Kimmel Be Appointed King Of Health Care? | Ep. 387

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Jimmy Kimmel goes off on Republicans over their new Obamacare repeal and replacement bill. Plus, President Trump goes to the UN. We do a full analysis on that and much more on this episode of The Ben Shapiro Show. Subscribe to my new podcast CRIMES OF PASSION where I break down the latest headlines and discuss the most pressing issues in American politics. Click here to become a supporter of my new presidential candidate, John McCain, by becoming a patron supporter of his campaign. If you haven t done so already, please take a few minutes to fill out this brief survey. It will help us tremendously and we'll make sure to update the results as soon as we can. Thanks for listening and share the podcast with your friends, family, and the ones you care most about! Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! Ben Shapiro Copyright 2019 Ben Shapiro This is a mashup of two pieces: 1) Jimmy Kimmel's Monday Night Football monologue 2) The Cassidy-Graham Bill 3) President Trump's trip to the United Nations 4) The Democratic response to the Kimmel-Graham-Kimmel bill 5) Why pre-existing conditions should be left out of Medicare and Medicaid 6) Why Rand Paul should vote for it 7) How much money should you pay for it? 8) What are you getting? 9) Why you should have to pay? 10) What will you get? 11) What does it mean? 12) What would you get in the bill? 13) What do you need? 15) Why does it have to be less than $5? And so on and so much more? 14) What is it better than that? 16) What's your answer to me? 17) What s your answer? ) And more? And so forth? #1) What kind of answer to that? #1 & so on? +) #3) #5) ) Is it really a good thing? #2) And so much less than that ) #3 & so forth... etc.) Also... ) Also ... ) And more! ) ) ) ... This is not enough? ) And finally, etc. ) Do you ve got it?? Thank you, bye, etc., etc.) And so Much More?

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00:00:00.000 Jimmy Kimmel goes off on Republicans over their new Obamacare repeal and replacement bill.
00:00:05.000 Will Rand Paul vote for it?
00:00:07.000 Plus, President Trump goes to the UN.
00:00:08.000 We do a full analysis.
00:00:10.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:10.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:18.000 Okay, so I have a lot to say about Jimmy Kimmel's monologue last night.
00:00:20.000 Jimmy Kimmel has sort of become the face of the quote-unquote moral movement for socialized medicine in the United States because his son underwent a heart procedure over at Children's Hospital of Los Angeles.
00:00:31.000 And I have a lot to say about this.
00:00:32.000 I want to go through his monologue in some detail today because I think that it is indicative of where our healthcare debate is.
00:00:38.000 That this is a serious piece of the healthcare debate now.
00:00:41.000 I don't think that it should be, because I think that we have a tendency in our politics to identify people going through a difficult time, people having experienced something, with having expertise on that particular topic.
00:00:51.000 And I don't think that's actually correct.
00:00:53.000 I think the best arguments need to be used, not the best emotional appeals.
00:00:57.000 But, I'll get to all of that in just a second.
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00:02:09.000 Okay, so.
00:02:10.000 And the big story today is the continued push, the late stage push for Obamacare, quote, repeal and replacement.
00:02:18.000 So first things first, this is not an Obamacare replacement or repeal.
00:02:21.000 It is an Obamacare cutback.
00:02:23.000 That's good.
00:02:23.000 You know, that's a step in the right direction.
00:02:25.000 I think that the Cassidy-Graham bill has a lot of flaws in it.
00:02:28.000 I don't think that it's going to lower premiums all that much, but it does pare away at the underlying structure of Obamacare, particularly a funding mechanism, which means
00:02:37.000 That you're going to have a situation where state governments are forced to relieve the regulations or absorb the higher prices of insurance.
00:02:43.000 And that's not a bad thing.
00:02:45.000 Yesterday I went through in some detail what exactly the Cassidy-Graham bill is.
00:02:48.000 So if you missed it, go back to yesterday's show and listen to it so I don't have to spend ten minutes explaining exactly what's in the new version.
00:02:55.000 Basically, Republicans have to pass this thing by September 30th or they run into a hard deadline.
00:02:59.000 Because the way that this works is that under reconciliation rules, all bills have to be revenue neutral.
00:03:04.000 The only way that you can tell whether a bill is revenue neutral is if you've already passed a budget.
00:03:07.000 The current budget expires on December 30th, but for purposes of evaluation, it expires on September 30th.
00:03:14.000 And that means that they have to pass something in the next week and a half.
00:03:17.000 So they're really trying to ram this thing through quickly right now.
00:03:21.000 And that means the Democrats are starting to push back in pretty hard measure.
00:03:26.000 Now, their main point of pushback is that this is mean and cruel and cuts coverage and pre-existing conditions go away.
00:03:31.000 And all the rest of it.
00:03:32.000 First thing to know about pre-existing conditions.
00:03:34.000 When we say insurance will be forced to cover pre-existing conditions, there are a couple problems here.
00:03:39.000 Number one, insurance costs skyrocket because obviously you can't cover somebody's new conditions or conditions that already exist without having to charge them or the government more money.
00:03:49.000 And number two, if they don't increase the insurance reimbursement rates to doctors, doctors stop taking the insurance altogether.
00:03:55.000 This is why Medicare for All, Medicaid for All, it really misses a big key component here, which is doctors don't take Medicaid and Medicare in increasing numbers because the reimbursement rates are too low.
00:04:04.000 So all the talk about pre-existing conditions, it's one of those things where it's the government saying something that sounds nice, but it doesn't necessarily accomplish what it's seeking to accomplish.
00:04:12.000 It's like the South African constitution guaranteeing a right to housing, but nobody has a house.
00:04:17.000 Here you can guarantee that people with pre-existing conditions are covered, but coverage does not equal care.
00:04:22.000 Coverage does not equal care, and it certainly does not mean decreased cost for everybody else. 0.97
00:04:26.000 That's why the Affordable Care Act was so stupidly named. 0.92
00:04:28.000 It has not made care more affordable in any way, shape, or form. 0.97
00:04:32.000 So Bill Cassidy, if you recall, was the senator from Louisiana.
00:04:35.000 I criticized him at the time.
00:04:36.000 He went on Jimmy Kimmel's show on ABC News, or on ABC late night, and he said that he wanted to fulfill what he called the Jimmy Kimmel test.
00:04:44.000 Now the reason that there was the quote-unquote Jimmy Kimmel test is because Jimmy Kimmel has a son and when the son was born they detected a congenital heart abnormality and they brought him to Children's Hospital of Los Angeles where they performed emergency open-heart surgery, saved his life and presumably his son is doing fine, thank God.
00:05:00.000 All of which is wonderful.
00:05:01.000 And demonstrates, by the way, the flexibility and availability of healthcare in the United States that people can get immediate heart surgery.
00:05:08.000 And by the way, that's not restricted to Jimmy Kimmel.
00:05:10.000 Let's be clear about something.
00:05:11.000 Children's Hospital of L.A.
00:05:12.000 does these kinds of surgeries on poor kids all the time.
00:05:15.000 I know this because my wife has rotated through Children's Hospital of Los Angeles.
00:05:19.000 Not only do I know that, I also know how good the care is there.
00:05:22.000 Because my daughter had open heart surgery at Children's Hospital of Los Angeles.
00:05:25.000 In fact, the same doctor, Vaughn Starnes, who took care of Jimmy Kimmel's kid, took care of my kid.
00:05:30.000 So I've had some experience with this as well.
00:05:31.000 Well, Bill Cassidy, you'll recall, the senator from Louisiana, appeared with Jimmy Kimmel, and on Jimmy Kimmel, Kimmel tried to define
00:05:37.000 What he wants, the Jimmy Kimmel test, as everybody needs to be covered all the time for everything.
00:05:42.000 And Bill Cassidy sort of shied away from that, and now Kimmel is mad.
00:05:46.000 So, first of all, Cassidy says, look, what we're doing here is an attempt to make healthcare more available.
00:05:52.000 And he's right, okay?
00:05:53.000 Making healthcare more available means that you have to have a better market system.
00:05:57.000 It means you have to have a better system where prices are transparent, where doctors are encouraged to go into the market and compete for the customer with the lowest available price, where quality goes up and price goes down, just like in every other market.
00:06:10.000 And Bill Cassidy says this.
00:06:11.000 Here's what Senator Cassidy had to say about the notion that he wasn't fulfilling the so-called Kimmel test.
00:06:16.000 In your efforts to do this again, will it pass the Jimmy Kimmel test?
00:06:21.000 Absolutely.
00:06:22.000 There'll be more people covered under the Graham-Cassidy-Heller-Johnson Amendment than are under status quo, and we protect those with pre-existing conditions.
00:06:30.000 There'll be billions of dollars for coverage for working families in states like Maine, Virginia, Missouri, Florida, and elsewhere.
00:06:38.000 States that have been bypassed by Obamacare, but under Graham-Cassidy-Heller-Johnson, those folks will have insurance.
00:06:44.000 So the way Cassidy originally stated the quote-unquote Jimmy Kimmel test was, would the child born with a congenital heart disease be able to get everything she or he would need in that first year of life even if they go over a certain amount?
00:06:55.000 The problem with framing it that way, and this is always Cassidy's fault and Kimmel's fault, the problem with framing it that way is that you are assuming that it is the government's job to do all of these things or that the government is best positioned to do all of these things.
00:07:06.000 The government is not best positioned to do all of these things.
00:07:09.000 As I say, there are a lot of people on Medicaid who are not getting the kind of care that they need, specifically because if you're on Medicaid, that doesn't mean that a doctor is forced to take your Medicaid.
00:07:18.000 Beyond that, the notion that Vaughn Starnes, the doctor who operated on Kimmel's kid and my kid, is sitting around rejecting poor kids is just not true.
00:07:24.000 Children's Hospital of Los Angeles, the hospital where Kimmel went, that hospital is a charity hospital.
00:07:28.000 That means they have an endowment of something like $200 million.
00:07:31.000 People give enormous sums of charity to Children's Hospital.
00:07:33.000 We give some every year.
00:07:34.000 I know Jimmy Kimmel gives some every year.
00:07:36.000 That charity goes toward helping these kids.
00:07:38.000 The idea that it's the government's job to do this or that it lowers healthcare costs in general by doing this and makes it more available is just not true.
00:07:46.000 In fact, many patients at CHLA who are getting these sorts of surgeries don't have Medicaid at all.
00:07:50.000 A lot of them are illegal immigrants.
00:07:51.000 Again, I know this because my wife has worked at CHLA.
00:07:54.000 So, you know, this is my problem.
00:07:55.000 Okay, so I've been kind of hitting Jimmy Kimmel without letting him speak for himself.
00:07:58.000 So here is Jimmy Kimmel and I want to go through his monologue in some detail here because I think that it is important.
00:08:04.000 I think that we have fallen into the trap of suggesting that because we have
00:08:08.000 Sympathy for somebody's personal situation, we grant credence to a logic that doesn't really work.
00:08:13.000 I'm not an expert on healthcare or whatever expertise I have on healthcare does not arise because my daughter had a heart surgery.
00:08:21.000 It arises because of the fact that I've actually studied the issues.
00:08:24.000 It's because my wife works as a doctor in this system and knows the system intimately.
00:08:29.000 That's where I get whatever expertise I have. 0.98
00:08:31.000 The notion that we have in our society is so stupid now that if you are the victim of something, that makes you an expert on that issue, right? 0.98
00:08:37.000 If you're a victim of terror, now you're a terrorism expert. 0.99
00:08:39.000 That's not the way that it works.
00:08:41.000 In fact, in medicine, it's precisely the reverse.
00:08:43.000 If you're a doctor and you're told to operate on your child, you're supposed to not operate on your child because the idea is it actually distracts you from being able to concentrate on the issue at hand.
00:08:51.000 But because of the merger of entertainment and politics, we've basically said that those whose hearts are the fullest, we're just going to grant that their brains are also the fullest.
00:08:59.000 I don't think that that's necessarily true.
00:09:01.000 In any case, here is Jimmy Kimmel going after Bill Cassidy last night with alacrity.
00:09:05.000 A few months ago, after my son had open-heart surgery, which was something I spoke about on the air, a politician, a senator named Bill Cassidy from Louisiana, was on my show and he wasn't very honest.
00:09:17.000 It seemed like he was being honest.
00:09:19.000 He got a lot of credit and attention for coming off like a rare, reasonable voice in the Republican Party when it came to healthcare.
00:09:27.000 For coming up with something he called, and I didn't name it this, he named it this, the Jimmy Kimmel test, which was, in a nutshell, no family should be denied medical care, emergency or otherwise, because they can't afford it.
00:09:39.000 He agreed to that.
00:09:40.000 He said he would only support a healthcare bill that made sure a child like mine would get the health coverage he needs no matter how much money his parents make.
00:09:49.000 Okay, pause it there for one second.
00:09:50.000 So first of all, that test is not fulfilled by Obamacare.
00:09:53.000 Okay, the test that everyone can get coverage no matter if they can afford it or not is not fulfilled by Obamacare.
00:09:58.000 In fact, it's not fulfilled by any system.
00:09:59.000 There is no system on planet Earth that fulfills the notion that you get care for anything that you need at any time regardless of cost.
00:10:07.000 This system does not exist.
00:10:08.000 It doesn't exist in France where they have rationing and serious debt problems.
00:10:11.000 It doesn't exist in Japan where they're increasingly facing rationing and serious debt problems.
00:10:14.000 It doesn't exist in Canada.
00:10:15.000 It doesn't exist in the UK.
00:10:17.000 It doesn't exist anywhere.
00:10:18.000 The systems where it does exist the best, places like Switzerland,
00:10:21.000 We're good to go.
00:10:45.000 Insurance that Kimmel is talking about so what he's talking about this test It doesn't really work in real life because there is no such thing as a system that takes care of everybody for free It just doesn't you're gonna have to actually spend enormous sums of money or you're going to have to ration care Those are the only ways to do this and this has been true in every system ever.
00:11:03.000 Okay, it's not a rip on Kimmel It's just a rip on his logic because his logic here is not correct.
00:11:07.000 Okay, he continues
00:11:08.000 Uh, have, uh, annual or lifetime caps.
00:11:10.000 These insurance companies, they want caps to limit how much they can pay out.
00:11:14.000 So our current plan protects Americans from these caps and prevents insurance providers from jacking up the rates for people who have pre-existing conditions, uh, of all types.
00:11:24.000 And Senator Cassidy said his plan would do that too.
00:11:27.000 Okay, so he's making a couple of statements here.
00:11:30.000 The lifetime caps, and then he's making a statement about jacking up the rates for people with pre-existing conditions.
00:11:35.000 First of all, again,
00:11:36.000 Just because you have a pre-existing condition and you have a crappy health insurance program does not mean a doctor is necessarily going to take that program.
00:11:43.000 Number two, how about all the other people?
00:11:44.000 Okay, the vast majority of people who get insurance do not have pre-existing conditions.
00:11:48.000 Those people are being forced to pay through the nose and a lot of them are opting not to buy insurance, which means what do they do?
00:11:54.000 They wait until they do get a pre-existing condition, then they buy insurance, which bankrupts the health insurance companies and drives up the cost of medical care.
00:12:02.000 Okay, so what he's talking about, again, all of these things sound great, you know, the insurance companies, they want to put lifetime caps.
00:12:09.000 These are options, okay?
00:12:10.000 You can buy an insurance program with no lifetime cap.
00:12:12.000 In fact, a huge number of people throughout the United States who have employer-based health insurance, where your employer buys your health insurance, it's like 90% of people who have health insurance have employer-based health insurance.
00:12:22.000 Those people, the vast majority of them probably don't even have a lifetime cap.
00:12:26.000 The vast majority of them probably have no cap because they're buying group insurance negotiated by your employer.
00:12:32.000 Again, facts and sloganeering are not quite the same thing.
00:12:35.000 Here, Jimmy Kimmel continues.
00:12:36.000 He's said all this on television many times.
00:12:39.000 So last week, Bill Cassidy and Senator Lindsey Graham proposed a new bill, the Graham-Cassidy bill.
00:12:45.000 And this new bill actually does pass the Jimmy Kimmel test, but a different Jimmy Kimmel test.
00:12:50.000 With this one, your child with a pre-existing condition will get the care he needs if, and only if, his father is Jimmy Kimmel.
00:12:57.000 Otherwise, you might be screwed.
00:13:00.000 Now, I don't know what happened. 0.90
00:13:01.000 Okay, this is utterly untrue.
00:13:01.000 Okay, so again, there's that joke there.
00:13:03.000 Utterly untrue.
00:13:04.000 Utterly untrue.
00:13:04.000 Von Sarnes performs hundreds of surgeries a year.
00:13:07.000 Okay, hundreds of them.
00:13:08.000 The idea that they're all Jimmy Kimmel.
00:13:09.000 I'm not as rich as Jimmy Kimmel.
00:13:11.000 Thank God I do well.
00:13:12.000 But I'm not as wealthy as Jimmy Kimmel is.
00:13:14.000 And when I was, you know, getting my daughter's surgery, my health insurance provider was provided by, at that time, Salem, which is the corporation where I used to have a radio show.
00:13:23.000 Okay, at that time I wasn't making nearly the amount of money that I'm making now, but we still got the surgery.
00:13:27.000 And again, there are plenty of people who are getting charity surgeries from Von Starnes at Children's Hospital of Los Angeles.
00:13:32.000 Go and ask him.
00:13:33.000 It is a fact.
00:13:34.000 Okay, so this idea that all these people are being left out in the cold because of Bill Cassidy is just not true.
00:13:39.000 And again, Obamacare doesn't fulfill the basic preconditions that Jimmy Kimmel is talking about right now.
00:13:43.000 He does not get his health insurance through Obamacare.
00:13:47.000 Jimmy Kimmel gets his health insurance through ABC.
00:13:49.000 Okay, Jimmy Kimmel does not have any problems here.
00:13:52.000 And by the way, neither does anyone else who works at ABC, because they get their health insurance through ABC.
00:13:56.000 Virtually everybody in the United States who has health insurance is not buying in the individual market.
00:14:00.000 If you're talking about in the individual market, you must have choice to bring down cost and increase quality.
00:14:04.000 End of story.
00:14:05.000 You're going to continue with this, because again,
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00:15:12.000 It really is a maddening thing to me that so many people in American political discourse are interested in playing this game where sympathy overrides logic.
00:15:21.000 Here's Jimmy Kimmel continuing along these lines. 0.95
00:15:24.000 You might be screwed.
00:15:25.000 Now, I don't know what happened to Bill Cassidy, but when he was on this publicity tour, he listed his demands for a health care bill very clearly. 0.93
00:15:33.000 These were his words.
00:15:34.000 He said he wants coverage for all, no discrimination based on pre-existing conditions, lower premiums for middle class families, and no lifetime caps.
00:15:43.000 And guess what?
00:15:44.000 The new bill?
00:15:45.000 Does none of those things.
00:15:47.000 Coverage for all?
00:15:48.000 No.
00:15:49.000 In fact it'll kick about 30 million Americans off insurance.
00:15:52.000 Pre-existing conditions?
00:15:53.000 No.
00:15:54.000 If the bill passes, individual states can let insurance companies charge you more if you have a pre-existing condition.
00:16:00.000 You'll find that little loophole later.
00:16:02.000 So Cassidy disagrees with this.
00:16:04.000 He suggests that states, in order to opt out, have to show that they have affordable options for people with pre-existing conditions.
00:16:10.000 As far as universality, Obamacare doesn't create universality.
00:16:12.000 There are millions of people who opted out of buying health insurance under Obamacare.
00:16:16.000 So Obamacare doesn't fulfill really either of these first two either.
00:16:20.000 And Cassidy is saying that with more options, people will be able to buy coverage for pre-existing conditions, which by the way is true.
00:16:26.000 You know, there are groups, group insurance programs in the individual market.
00:16:30.000 People have church associations where they go and they buy with their entire church health insurance.
00:16:34.000 This stuff does exist.
00:16:35.000 Okay, Kimmel continues.
00:16:37.000 After it says they can't.
00:16:38.000 They can and they will.
00:16:39.000 But will it lower premiums?
00:16:41.000 Well, in fact, for lots of people, the bill will result in higher premiums.
00:16:45.000 And as far as no lifetime caps go, the states can decide on that too, which means there will be lifetime caps in many states.
00:16:52.000 Okay, so finally, the idea of lifetime caps, states can opt.
00:16:56.000 Not to opt out of Obamacare.
00:16:58.000 They can.
00:16:59.000 Massachusetts will still keep that law with regard to no lifetime caps.
00:17:02.000 And when he talks about affordability, this has been the big problem with Obamacare.
00:17:05.000 It's driven up the cost of insurance.
00:17:06.000 So, Obamacare doesn't fulfill any of these preconditions either, but the idea that more market options is a problem
00:17:12.000 It's because Jimmy Kimmel has a very simplistic view of what health insurance is supposed to be.
00:17:17.000 The government is supposed to cover everything, and all the problems are supposed to go away.
00:17:20.000 That doesn't exist anywhere on Earth, anywhere in history, nor will it exist anywhere in the future.
00:17:24.000 That's not how healthcare works.
00:17:26.000 That's not how healthcare works.
00:17:28.000 As I've said many times, there are three elements to healthcare.
00:17:31.000 Universality.
00:17:32.000 Everyone has it.
00:17:32.000 Affordability.
00:17:33.000 It's very affordable.
00:17:34.000 Quality.
00:17:35.000 The quality is very good.
00:17:36.000 You can have two of these three.
00:17:37.000 You cannot have all three.
00:17:39.000 Most government-run systems have universality.
00:17:42.000 And affordability to the individual but not affordability to the country and the quality kind of sucks because they have to ration.
00:17:48.000 There are some countries that have universality and quality but not affordability like Switzerland where you're paying a lot of money out of pocket to make sure that your insurance is covered.
00:17:56.000 America has quality and affordability but not universality.
00:18:00.000 And when I say affordability, I'm not talking about the fact that on a per capita level we spend a lot of money.
00:18:05.000 That's true because we opt for a lot more surgeries than people do abroad.
00:18:09.000 We have a lot more administrative hurdles than people do abroad.
00:18:12.000 The collective bargaining against the insurance companies is not as strong here as it is abroad because the government basically crams down pricing.
00:18:17.000 But that's because they have rationing.
00:18:19.000 It turns out that if you're rationing care, it's cheaper than if you don't ration care and people get to spend whatever kind of money they want on a particular surgery.
00:18:25.000 I mean, you get to walk in and demand an x-ray of your doctor.
00:18:27.000 This does not exist in a lot of socialized medicine countries.
00:18:30.000 It has to be mandated from the top down by the government.
00:18:33.000 Okay, so Kimmel continues.
00:18:34.000 Any state.
00:18:35.000 So, not only did Bill Cassidy fail the Jimmy Kimmel test, he failed the Bill Cassidy test.
00:18:39.000 He failed his own test.
00:18:41.000 And you don't see that happen very much.
00:18:43.000 This bill he came up with is actually worse than the one that, thank God, Republicans like Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski and John McCain torpedoed over the summer.
00:18:53.000 And I hope they have the courage and good sense to do that again with this one, because these other guys, who claim they want Americans to have better health care, even though eight years ago they didn't want anyone to have health care at all,
00:19:02.000 They're trying to sneak this scam of a bill they cooked up in without an analysis from the bipartisan Congressional Budget Office.
00:19:09.000 They don't even want you to see it.
00:19:10.000 They're having one hearing.
00:19:12.000 I read the hearings being held in the Homeland Security Committee, which has nothing to do with health care, and the chairman agreed to allow two witnesses, Bill Cassidy and Lindsey Graham, to speak.
00:19:22.000 So listen, health care is complicated.
00:19:24.000 It's boring.
00:19:25.000 I don't want to talk about it.
00:19:26.000 The details are confusing.
00:19:29.000 And that's what these guys are relying on.
00:19:30.000 They're counting on you to be so overwhelmed with all the information, you just trust them to take care of you.
00:19:34.000 But they're not taking care of you.
00:19:36.000 They're taking care of the people who give them money, like insurance companies.
00:19:39.000 Okay, stop it right there.
00:19:40.000 So they're taking care of the people who take care of them, like insurance companies?
00:19:43.000 Insurance companies donated tens of millions of dollars to Obama's campaign in 2008 and 2012.
00:19:48.000 The insurance companies have been getting huge bailouts from the federal government on a regular basis under Obamacare.
00:19:54.000 Obamacare was federal government money going to all these insurance companies to pay them off for covering the pre-existing conditions.
00:20:01.000 And as far as Jimmy Kimmel complaining about the process, I agree there, by the way.
00:20:04.000 I agree with Jimmy Kimmel.
00:20:05.000 The process should be open.
00:20:06.000 The process should be clear.
00:20:08.000 It should be transparent.
00:20:09.000 It should also have been clear and transparent when Obama was doing it.
00:20:11.000 So that's not whataboutism, that's consistency.
00:20:13.000 It should have been clear and transparent when Obama did it.
00:20:15.000 It should be clear and transparent now under Trumpcare.
00:20:18.000 Okay, finally, Jimmy Kimmel ends up reading the phone number of Bill Cassidy and urging people to call their son.
00:20:22.000 Again, this is on late night TV, right?
00:20:23.000 I mean, this is a political diatribe in the middle of late night TV.
00:20:26.000 Jimmy Kimmel can do what he wants, right?
00:20:27.000 I mean, that's his prerogative.
00:20:29.000 But, in the end, what he ends up saying is that he acknowledges that he's exploiting his son's situation in order to push a certain political viewpoint, and then he justifies that by saying it has to be done.
00:20:40.000 We're all just looking at our Instagram accounts and liking things while they're voting on whether people can afford to keep their children alive or not.
00:20:48.000 Most of the congresspeople who voted on this bill probably won't even read it.
00:20:51.000 And they want us to do the same thing.
00:20:52.000 They want us to treat it like an iTunes service agreement.
00:20:55.000 And this guy, Bill Cassidy, just lied right to my face.
00:20:59.000 And I never imagined I would get involved in something like this.
00:21:01.000 This is not my area of expertise.
00:21:03.000 My area of expertise is eating pizza, and that's really about it.
00:21:07.000 But we can't let him do this to our children, and our senior citizens, and our veterans, or to any of us.
00:21:13.000 And by the way, before you post a nasty Facebook message saying I'm politicizing my son's health problems, I want you to know I am politicizing my son's health problems, because I have to.
00:21:22.000 My family has health insurance.
00:21:24.000 We don't have to worry about this, but other people do. 0.86
00:21:26.000 So you can shove your disgusting comments where your doctor won't be giving you a prostate exam once they take your health care benefits away. 0.99
00:21:33.000 It's truly, it's unbelievable. 0.90
00:21:34.000 Somehow, Japan and England and Canada, Germany, France, they all figured health care out. 1.00
00:21:39.000 And don't say they have terrible health care, because it's just not true.
00:21:43.000 This is a bad bill.
00:21:44.000 But don't take my word for it.
00:21:45.000 Here are just some of the organizations that oppose this Graham Cassidy bill.
00:21:50.000 I mean, this is like an eight-minute PSA here.
00:21:52.000 And then he talks about all these various organizations that would make money under a socialized healthcare system.
00:21:59.000 When Kimmel says things like France, Germany, Japan, he lists off all these countries again.
00:22:04.000 If you actually look at the specifics in each of these countries, it involves a combination
00:22:08.000 Of rationing or massive debt.
00:22:11.000 Massive tax increases.
00:22:12.000 There are trade-offs in healthcare just like in every other public policy area. 0.99
00:22:16.000 And when he says, take your politicization accusations and shove them up your butt. 0.96
00:22:20.000 Again, I've talked about healthcare for years on this program. 0.98
00:22:23.000 How many times have I suggested that I get my authority for discussing that on the basis of my daughter having an open heart surgery from the same doctor at the same hospital as Jimmy Kimmel?
00:22:31.000 How many times?
00:22:32.000 The answer is zero.
00:22:33.000 The only time I've ever mentioned that on the program is with regard to Jimmy Kimmel invoking it.
00:22:37.000 And me saying, listen, you can't invoke your kid's health problem in order to paint a particular picture on healthcare.
00:22:42.000 Because that just doesn't hold.
00:22:44.000 And I do think it's kind of egregious, okay?
00:22:46.000 I'm not somebody who thinks that it's worthwhile exploiting
00:22:49.000 The issues your kids have had.
00:22:50.000 I mean, thank God, by the way, just to note, my kid is totally fine.
00:22:53.000 She had a hole in her heart.
00:22:54.000 It was an atrial septal defect, an ASD, and they fixed it.
00:23:00.000 She'll be good for life.
00:23:01.000 No problem.
00:23:01.000 She operates just like any other normal kid.
00:23:04.000 She has no lingering aftereffects.
00:23:05.000 She's a wonderful child.
00:23:06.000 Thank God.
00:23:07.000 Thank God.
00:23:07.000 Thank God.
00:23:07.000 Thank you, Dr. Starnes.
00:23:08.000 Thank you to CHLA, and thank you to my insurance company for covering that.
00:23:12.000 I don't exploit that to talk about insurance because I don't think personal narrative is nearly as important as making good public policy decisions.
00:23:20.000 And I'm tired of this notion that, like, he gets cheer.
00:23:22.000 He says, I'm politicizing my kid's story because there's so many others who can't.
00:23:27.000 Well, how about the people who talk actually read the bills?
00:23:30.000 How about the people who talk actually, like, study this stuff?
00:23:32.000 It's so funny, you hear about the left, they say, well, on global warming, listen to the experts, listen to the science, listen to the experts, and then when it comes to stuff like this, they say, screw that, let's listen to the guy whose kid had a health problem.
00:23:44.000 It doesn't quite work that way.
00:23:46.000 Doesn't quite work that way.
00:23:46.000 By the way, I think you should listen to experts in all of these fields, because I think expertise matters.
00:23:50.000 I think people who study things know more than people who don't study things.
00:23:53.000 I think people who know about economics know more than people who know about pizza, as Jimmy Kimmel admits there.
00:23:59.000 Okay, I'm gonna move on from healthcare, I promise.
00:24:01.000 After this I'm gonna talk about Trump's speech at the UN.
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00:25:17.000 Okay, so I'm putting aside Jimmy Kimmel now and healthcare.
00:25:20.000 I want to talk a little bit about President Trump's UN speech because I think that there are some interesting things that happened in his speech yesterday.
00:25:27.000 I think what's more interesting is the left's reaction to the speech.
00:25:30.000 So let's be straight about what President Trump's UN speech was yesterday.
00:25:33.000 It was a basic down-the-line George W. Bush foreign policy speech with a little bit less pie in the sky about building democracy.
00:25:39.000 That's basically what it was, okay?
00:25:40.000 It was well in line with the Reagan-Bush
00:25:43.000 We do not expect
00:26:13.000 Okay, so what he's saying there is, you know, essential Bush doctrine.
00:26:17.000 I mean, this is the idea that we expect other nations to have standards for their own citizenry.
00:26:43.000 And then he says stuff like this.
00:26:44.000 Here is President Trump trying to merge that with the America First language he used on the campaign trail.
00:26:49.000 As President of the United States, I will always put America first.
00:26:55.000 Just like you, as the leaders of your countries, will always, and should always, put your countries first.
00:27:06.000 All responsible leaders have an obligation to serve their own citizens, and the nation-state remains the best vehicle
00:27:15.000 For elevating the human condition.
00:27:18.000 That's a weird dichotomy right there because he's saying in the first clip he says as a nation as a national leader you have an obligation to your citizens to ensure interest of your people and and freedom of your people basically and then he says well everybody has the interests of their own nation and we're going to leave you alone and the nation state remains the best vehicle for elevating the human condition.
00:27:37.000 I'm so weirded out by by this particular notion.
00:27:41.000 There are certain nation-states that do remain.
00:27:43.000 America remains the best vehicle for elevating the human condition.
00:27:46.000 I don't think Saudi Arabia remains the best vehicle for elevating the human condition. 1.00
00:27:49.000 The nation-state as an institution does not necessarily represent the quote-unquote best vehicle.
00:27:54.000 It is a vehicle, but Nazi Germany was a nation-state.
00:27:58.000 I mean, the idea that nation-states are the be-all end-all, it's kind of this weird... I've always had a problem with the difference between patriotism and nationalism.
00:28:06.000 I like patriotism because it says that we defend the principles on which America stands.
00:28:10.000 I'm not as big on nationalism, which says my country right or wrong.
00:28:14.000 I don't think that anything right or wrong.
00:28:15.000 I don't think my wife right or wrong.
00:28:17.000 I just don't believe in the idea that you should side with things that are wrong because they're things.
00:28:21.000 So I love America, obviously, but I love America because of what she is.
00:28:24.000 If America turned into a different country overnight, I wouldn't love America anymore.
00:28:27.000 It's that easy.
00:28:28.000 If America turned into Nazi Germany, I wouldn't love it. 0.98
00:28:31.000 Is this very difficult?
00:28:32.000 This is why I think that taking a value-neutral proposition like the nation-state and trying to imbue it with value, trying to infuse value into a concept like the nation-state,
00:28:41.000 Which could be an evil nation-state like the Japanese Empire during World War II. 0.97
00:28:46.000 Or it could be a very good nation-state like the United States or Great Britain.
00:28:50.000 Right, that seems to me a very weird notion.
00:28:52.000 And so you can see he's trying to basically fit this square peg of American exceptionalism and principle and creedal values into this round hole of nationalism generally.
00:29:01.000 And it doesn't really work particularly well.
00:29:04.000 Which is why he ends up basically in the Bush position.
00:29:06.000 Here is President Trump sounding very much like President Bush at the end of his speech at the UN yesterday.
00:29:12.000 We need to defeat the enemies of humanity and unlock the potential of life itself.
00:29:21.000 Our hope is a world of proud, independent nations that embrace their duties, seek friendship, respect others, and make common cause in the greatest shared interest of all — a future of dignity and peace
00:29:41.000 For the people of this wonderful Earth, this is the true vision of the United Nations, the ancient wish of every people and the deepest yearning that lives inside
00:29:57.000 Every sacred soul.
00:29:59.000 Now what's amazing about that is that's actually something that Bush used to say that I disagreed with.
00:30:03.000 This great yearning for dignity and peace.
00:30:05.000 Uh, no.
00:30:06.000 No, actually, I don't think that's the great yearning of the human soul is the yearning for dignity and peace.
00:30:10.000 I think there are lots of people throughout history who have yearned for destruction, violence, and bloodshed and victory, right?
00:30:15.000 I think that's the idea that if everyone yearned for dignity and peace, we'd all be fine.
00:30:19.000 We wouldn't need a UN
00:30:20.000 We actually don't need a UN, but we wouldn't need an army, we wouldn't need a navy, we wouldn't need an air force.
00:30:25.000 If everybody yearned for dignity and peace, we'd all be fine, wouldn't we?
00:30:28.000 But, again, this is the awkwardness of trying to merge traditional American foreign policy with the isolationism that Trump, I think, sort of resonates to.
00:30:40.000 But then, when he gets down to situational ethics, when he gets down to Syria is gassing its own people, then he's like, fire a missile, right? 0.80
00:30:46.000 And all of that goes right out the window, and we're back to firing missiles.
00:30:49.000 In any case,
00:30:49.000 This is a pretty traditional American speech on foreign policy.
00:30:52.000 Because it was traditional, because Trump over the last couple of weeks has actually acted very much like a traditional centrist Democrat president in many ways, because of all that, that means the media has to go doubly nuts.
00:31:02.000 So they try to find things to go crazy over, and it really is amusing, actually, because what you see is the media now defending Iran and North Korea from the predations of President Trump.
00:31:11.000 How dare President Trump rip on North Korea and call Kim Jong-un Rocket Man?
00:31:17.000 Right?
00:31:18.000 And now Rocketman's stuck in your head again.
00:31:19.000 I know it's not my fault, it's Trump's fault.
00:31:21.000 I did like Nikki Haley's defense of that line, by the way.
00:31:23.000 She said today that Trump, it was great that Trump used Rocketman because now everybody's talking about Kim Jong-un.
00:31:28.000 Listen, I love the UN ambassador, Nikki Haley.
00:31:30.000 I think she's doing a great job.
00:31:32.000 But I'm pretty sure that everyone was talking about the fat little dude threatening to nuke the United States before he was called Rocketman by President Trump.
00:31:39.000 I think that has more to do with Trump likes to nickname things.
00:31:41.000 He's like the Adam of nicknames.
00:31:43.000 God said to Adam, name all the animals.
00:31:45.000 God said to Trump, nickname all the people.
00:31:47.000 And that's pretty much where we are.
00:31:48.000 Right, in any case, the media go completely insane over all of this.
00:31:52.000 ABC's Jim Moran, he says that North Korea, you know, when Trump threatened to nuke North Korea if they should attack us, you know, how... Sorry, it's Terry Moran, who has the same... He has the same last name as the insane congressperson from up north.
00:32:09.000 In any case, Terry Moran says that this was a war crime.
00:32:12.000 He accuses Trump of war crimes in his UN speech yesterday.
00:32:16.000 That is a potential justification, but the word's totally destroying a nation of 25 million people.
00:32:23.000 That borders on the threat of committing a war crime. 0.53
00:32:26.000 Wow, borders on that threat.
00:32:27.000 Okay, Bill Clinton said the same thing in the 90s.
00:32:29.000 I got flack yesterday because there was a headline that President Obama had said that we could destroy North Korea, and people were saying, well, he didn't say we would destroy North Korea.
00:32:36.000 Yeah, neither did Trump yesterday.
00:32:38.000 Trump said, if they do something, then we'll destroy them, right? 0.97
00:32:41.000 If they fire a missile at us, we'll destroy them. 0.91
00:32:44.000 Obama basically said the same thing.
00:32:45.000 He said we could destroy them anytime we want, but we wouldn't want to do that because there are people who are threatened.
00:32:51.000 They're all saying the same thing. 0.93
00:32:52.000 Everybody knows that if they fire a nuke at us, we'll nuke them.
00:32:54.000 It's that simple.
00:32:55.000 Everybody knows this is the case.
00:32:57.000 But no, now it's a war crime. 0.74
00:32:58.000 The left is relegated to defending the worst states on earth in order to rip President Trump, which is actually kind of humorous to me.
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00:34:26.000 All righty, so more of the media losing their minds.
00:34:29.000 CNN's Jim Acosta, who is not a reporter, he's a parody of a reporter.
00:34:33.000 Jim Acosta, it's like someone made a puppet of Jim Acosta and put him on TV.
00:34:36.000 So Jim Acosta is the guy who, his sole goal now is to be in the White House press room and then be shown on TV looking indignant.
00:34:43.000 And now he is looking indignant, standing in the middle of New York talking about the UN.
00:34:47.000 I always find it humorous that
00:34:49.000 TV channels feel the necessity to do this.
00:34:51.000 Like, station a guy, like, on a random street corner in the middle of New York to discuss these things.
00:34:55.000 Like, they have studios.
00:34:55.000 I've been to CNN studios in New York.
00:34:57.000 They're beautiful.
00:34:58.000 But here he is in the middle of the street.
00:34:59.000 Yay.
00:35:00.000 Talking about how Trump's UN speech made everybody say, OMG.
00:35:06.000 The president certainly did not mince any words.
00:35:11.000 What now?
00:35:12.000 Really?
00:35:12.000 LMAO?
00:35:12.000 OMFG?
00:35:12.000 LOL?
00:35:12.000 Shruggie?
00:35:41.000 Good reporting, solid reporting from Jim Acosta. 0.98
00:35:42.000 I do appreciate Wolf Blitzer, because Wolf Blitzer's job is basically to be the stupid third grader who asks questions that everyone already sort of knows the answers to, but he has to act like he is the stand-in for the audience. 0.90
00:35:53.000 So he asks things like, President Trump said stuff, Jim. 0.92
00:35:56.000 And then Jim gives his explanation with emojis and my memory.
00:36:01.000 So well done, Jim Acosta.
00:36:02.000 It just shows you where the media are.
00:36:04.000 MSNBC had a guest on.
00:36:06.000 The guest's name was Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, and he launched into, former Obama staffer, of course, and he launched into President Trump's speech, the worst speech anyone ever gave.
00:36:14.000 My God!
00:36:16.000 My first reaction was he read it from the teleprompter.
00:36:20.000 That means at least H.R.
00:36:21.000 McMaster and probably Jim Mattis and John Kelly got a look at that speech and I'm deeply saddened and embarrassed by that fact.
00:36:29.000 That was the most atrocious speech I've ever heard an American president give in any venue.
00:36:36.000 Really?
00:36:37.000 President Obama gave speeches at the UN where he legitimately ripped our race policies in the United States.
00:36:42.000 President Obama went on a full-on apology tour at the beginning of his presidency where he went to Islamic countries and talked about how America was arrogant and evil.
00:36:50.000 But again, the media...
00:36:52.000 Trump has forced them into a bad situation.
00:36:53.000 They hate Trump so much that when Trump does something right, they have to pretend that he's doing something wrong.
00:36:57.000 Naturally, we still have to trot out the corpse of Hillary Clinton to talk about how terrible Trump is.
00:37:03.000 She's never going to go away.
00:37:04.000 She's just going to be the specter haunting your home.
00:37:05.000 You're going to be taking a bath one evening and then, spookily, she's going to creep out of the mirror at you.
00:37:09.000 Alright, here is Hillary Clinton on with Stephen Colbert.
00:37:12.000 All these late night hosts are so in the tank.
00:37:14.000 It's irritating.
00:37:15.000 I get it.
00:37:17.000 Did you happen to see the President's speech at the UN today?
00:37:20.000 I saw parts of it, yes.
00:37:21.000 What did you make of it?
00:37:23.000 I thought it was very dark, dangerous, not the kind of message that the leader of the greatest nation in the world should be delivering.
00:37:27.000 You are both
00:37:49.000 You are both required to stand up for the values of what we believe in, democracy and opportunity, as a way to demonstrate clearly the United States remains the beacon that we want it to be.
00:38:07.000 Okay, this coming from the lady who sent a message to the entire Arab world and Muslim world in the middle of Benghazi suggesting that our values of the First Amendment were sort of a problem because it allowed people to cut videos that were not nice to Islam.
00:38:19.000 I do have one question for Hillary Clinton.
00:38:21.000 Is she colorblind? 1.00
00:38:22.000 Who picked that?
00:38:23.000 Who picked that jacket?
00:38:25.000 I really, like, I'm confused that anyone would think this would look good on television.
00:38:28.000 First of all, there's a basic rule on TV.
00:38:30.000 Do not wear patterns.
00:38:32.000 Second of all, there's a rule on TV.
00:38:34.000 Do not wear the ugliest jacket that you found at the Salvation Army.
00:38:37.000 And Hillary Clinton apparently went rubbish bin hunting and found this jacket and threw it on for Stephen Colbert's show.
00:38:42.000 But Hillary Clinton lecturing us all on foreign policy after presiding over the worst eight-year foreign policy in recent memory, probably in history. 1.00
00:38:50.000 It's pretty astonishing.
00:38:51.000 It's pretty astonishing.
00:38:52.000 So there she is ripping, again, 0.69
00:38:55.000 This is the lady who was one of the architects of the Iran deal.
00:38:58.000 She was working on it before she left the Obama administration, and now she's complaining that Trump is too mean to places like Iran.
00:39:03.000 Yeah, I can't imagine why the Democrats remain unpopular.
00:39:06.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats have decided, it does go to show you, by the way, all of this goes to show you, that all of the talk from President Trump about making nice with Democrats, they will stab him in the face at the first available opportunity.
00:39:16.000 Not in the back, in the face. 0.99
00:39:17.000 He's a fool if he thinks that he can work with these people, and they will then somehow be loyal to him. 0.98
00:39:22.000 President Trump is currently trying to surrender on DACA, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. 0.99
00:39:27.000 That's not stopping Governor Jerry Brown, 1,000-year-old Jerry Brown, the governor of the state of California, from suggesting that Trump is some sort of evil xenophobe who wants to target illegal immigrants.
00:39:36.000 Doesn't matter that Trump just agreed with Pelosi and Schumer on it.
00:39:39.000 Doesn't matter.
00:39:40.000 None of that matters. 0.99
00:39:40.000 The only thing that matters is that we know, we know President Trump is a bad man who hates brown people. 0.99
00:39:48.000 We also know that my walker needs a tennis ball replaced because I keep scratching my hardwood floors. 0.98
00:39:56.000 Go, Jerry Brown!
00:39:58.000 It protects public safety, but it also protects hardworking people who contributed a lot to California.
00:40:05.000 Hardworking people who are undocumented immigrants.
00:40:08.000 Yeah, by the way, they've got a couple million working.
00:40:11.000 Our agricultural industry, our hospitality industry, our construction industry, they'd be in deep trouble without those same people.
00:40:18.000 And that's why we need immigration reform, not bluster, not rhetoric, and not this kind of xenophobia that we see too much of coming out of Washington.
00:40:28.000 It's xenophobia, do you understand?
00:40:29.000 We here in California have invited every person on earth to the state, but we have no idea why we have trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities.
00:40:40.000 The good news is I'll be dead before any of that has to be paid.
00:40:44.000 So there you are.
00:40:46.000 Also,
00:40:48.000 Okay, so, there are your wonderful Democrats doing yeoman's work for the American people.
00:40:53.000 Okay, time for some things I like, things I hate, and then I'll explain to you what this weird new Jewish holiday is and why I will not be here to provide you with my stellar and incisive commentary tomorrow or Friday. 0.99
00:41:03.000 So, time for some things I like.
00:41:05.000 So we've been doing sort of gothic romances.
00:41:07.000 I did Wuthering Heights yesterday and the day before that I did Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier.
00:41:12.000 This is, there's a new production of Jane Eyre.
00:41:15.000 I don't think I've recommended this on the show, have I Mathis?
00:41:17.000 So this is actually a quite good version of Jane Eyre.
00:41:20.000 This was not my favorite book when I was in high school.
00:41:22.000 It annoyed the living daylights out of me, to be completely frank with you.
00:41:26.000 It seemed like female wish fulfillment, but I reread it recently.
00:41:30.000 It's a pretty good book, and the movie itself is also quite good.
00:41:33.000 Also, I am a huge Michael Fassbender fan.
00:41:35.000 I cannot wait for The Snowman, as I have said a thousand times.
00:41:38.000 His new movie has the worst trailer I have ever seen for any movie in history.
00:41:41.000 We did a full seven-minute segment on the show on The Snowman.
00:41:45.000 Jane Eyre is actually a good movie.
00:41:46.000 The Snowman will be a terrible movie that I will like more.
00:41:48.000 But here is the preview for Jane Eyre with Mia Wasikowsky, is that how it's pronounced?
00:41:53.000 And Michael Fassbender.
00:41:57.000 Do you know, Jane Eyre, where the wicked go after death? 0.98
00:42:01.000 They go to hell.
00:42:03.000 And what is hell? 0.67
00:42:04.000 Where are you, Ram? 0.98
00:42:06.000 If you don't sit still, you will be tied down!
00:42:09.000 Pit full of fire. 0.98
00:42:10.000 Should you like to fall into this pit and be burned there forever? 0.97
00:42:16.000 People think you're good, but you're hard-hearted. 0.99
00:42:19.000 Get out.
00:42:20.000 Children, I exhort you to withhold the hand of friendship to Jane Eyre.
00:42:35.000 This is a grand old house, but it can feel a little dreary.
00:42:39.000 Mr. Rochester... It's actually a really, really good production.
00:42:43.000 Very dark.
00:42:44.000 A lot creepier than the book.
00:42:45.000 The book isn't that creepy, but it's well worth watching.
00:42:48.000 So if you're into this sort of thing, very good production of Jane Eyre with Michael Fassbender and Mia Wasikowska is how it's pronounced.
00:42:55.000 Okay, other things that I like.
00:42:57.000 So I just got a kick out of this. 0.94
00:42:58.000 Stephen A. Smith yesterday was on television and he asked what has to be one of the single dumbest questions in the history of mankind. 0.96
00:43:04.000 Here we go.
00:43:05.000 I think we'll favor Canelo in the rematch particularly because...
00:43:08.000 The rematch isn't going to happen at Cinco de Mayo if there is one, right?
00:43:11.000 Canelo's done fighting for the year.
00:43:13.000 He fights twice a year.
00:43:14.000 Then go to Mayo, Mexican Independence Day, because those two dates indicate that you own boxing in North America. 0.84
00:43:20.000 That's why Floyd always liked those dates.
00:43:23.000 Those are now Canelo's dates.
00:43:24.000 He's going to fight him in a rematch if it happens, I would assume, Cinco de Mayo.
00:43:28.000 Triple G's going to be 36, pushing 37 at that time.
00:43:30.000 Well, when is Cinco de Mayo?
00:43:32.000 What's the date of Cinco de Mayo next year?
00:43:34.000 Can you tell me that?
00:43:36.000 Uh, it's somewhere around May 5th, you know?
00:43:38.000 My god.
00:43:38.000 Wow.
00:43:40.000 When is Cinco de Mayo?
00:43:41.000 Well, Steven needs to brush up on his Spanish, because that is not a good question.
00:43:45.000 When is it next year?
00:43:47.000 Like, it changes year to year.
00:43:48.000 It's not like the Jewish calendar actually changes the dates year to year, because we're on the lunar calendar, not the solar calendar.
00:43:53.000 But I'm pretty sure Cinco de Mayo is on, like, May 5th, because it's called the 5th of May.
00:43:57.000 If I had to hazard a guess at this, and I don't think that it was created before the modern calendar was created.
00:44:03.000 So, good for Steven A. Smith.
00:44:05.000 Okay, time for some quick things that I hate.
00:44:11.000 Okay, so can we please stop comparing things to Jews in Nazi Germany?
00:44:14.000 Like, please?
00:44:14.000 Unless they're actually things that are comparable?
00:44:16.000 Keith Ellison, who's the last person in the world who should ever invoke the Holocaust, considering that he was a Nation of Islam backer who was wildly anti-Semitic for years and years and years and years, now he's comparing illegal immigrants living in the United States to Jews living in Nazi Germany.
00:44:32.000 So, this is not someone else's fight, this is all of our fight.
00:44:35.000 But some people are in the bullseye and others of us are not exactly the target.
00:44:40.000 Therefore, it is our responsibility to stand up, fight, and do the right thing.
00:44:44.000 And I'm going to tell you right now, I'm one of the people who believes we should give our neighbors sanctuary.
00:44:50.000 And if you ask yourself, what would I do if I was a Gentile in 1941, if my Jewish neighbors were under attack by the Nazis?
00:45:01.000 Would I give them sanctuary?
00:45:03.000 You might be about to find out what you would do.
00:45:06.000 Okay, I'm pretty sure that number one, Keith Ellison had been around in 1939 and Jews had run to him for sanctuary.
00:45:13.000 I have serious doubts that Keith Ellison would have provided them sanctuary himself if he were alive in 1939.
00:45:17.000 But beyond that, likening people who are living in the United States illegally
00:45:21.000 Their kids going to public schools?
00:45:23.000 Having jobs? 0.94
00:45:24.000 Living in the freest, most prosperous country in the history of mankind to Jews living under Nazi rule is just insane. 1.00
00:45:32.000 It's just insane and ridiculous. 0.99
00:45:34.000 No purpose to it at all. 0.98
00:45:36.000 Okay, um, so I really wanted to do Tucker Carlson interviewing a witch, but I'm not sure I have time to do Tucker Carlson interviewing a witch.
00:45:42.000 You know what?
00:45:42.000 I'm gonna do it for five seconds.
00:45:43.000 So Tucker Carlson last night interviewed a witch because I can't avoid this.
00:45:46.000 This is under Things I Hate because
00:45:48.000 It just, it gives the left fodder that every time they take a screencap of these things, it's like Tucker Carlson on Gypsy Invasion in Pennsylvania. 0.74
00:45:54.000 Tucker Carlson, witches take on President Trump.
00:45:56.000 Like, I understand that there's such a thing as ratings, and I understand that this gets them, I assume, but I'm not sure that this is a valuable use of news-watching time, the witches who are taking on the President.
00:46:11.000 So since you're the only witch, I've interviewed a lot of people, but I've never interviewed a witch.
00:46:16.000 Sincere question, is eye of newt an actual ingredient?
00:46:20.000 Well, I think the real problem is not whether or not eye of newt is an actual ingredient.
00:46:26.000 The real problem is we're about to have some kind of big nuclear extravaganza with North Korea. 0.82
00:46:32.000 The real problem is that we're
00:46:36.000 There's a very funny thing online where this kind of nerdy guy goes through what he calls the hot crazy matrix where he talks about women who are hot versus women who are crazy and then where women fall along these lines and this would be one to avoid.
00:46:58.000 So this seems like a mistake.
00:46:59.000 Tucker, 0.93
00:47:02.000 I think that you can probably get better interview subjects than the crazy witch to talk on your show. 0.98
00:47:07.000 You know, take it or leave it.
00:47:09.000 He's got better ratings than I do.
00:47:11.000 He's on Fox News.
00:47:12.000 But just saying, I'm not sure that this is a valuable use of time.
00:47:15.000 Okay, so quick explanation.
00:47:17.000 Normally we do Bible talk today.
00:47:18.000 Instead I'm going to explain to you in very basic terms what Rosh Hashanah is.
00:47:21.000 So Rosh Hashanah literally means the head of the year.
00:47:23.000 This is the Jewish new year when we believe that the earth was created. 0.76
00:47:28.000 This is one of the cool things about sort of the history of scientific thought, is that for thousands of years, people thought that the Earth actually was not created, that it existed eternally.
00:47:36.000 If you go read Aristotelian thought, Aristotle thought this, so did Plato.
00:47:39.000 They thought the planets were in eternal motion, and that the Earth had always existed, and the Bible suggested something different.
00:47:46.000 So when you read Maimonides or Aquinas, they're actually attempting to explain
00:47:49.000 How the Bible can be true, and also, it can be true that the Earth always existed.
00:47:53.000 So they're trying to rectify bad science with the Bible. 0.90
00:47:56.000 It turns out that the science was bad and the Bible was right. 1.00
00:47:58.000 The Earth was created.
00:47:59.000 So at the beginning, in the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth, and that's what we are celebrating at Rosh Hashanah.
00:48:05.000 It's also the initiation of what we call the Days of Awe in the Jewish calendar. 0.95
00:48:09.000 It's the initiation of sort of the repentance period.
00:48:11.000 Jews have already been, for the month before Rosh Hashanah, beginning what we call Teshuvah, 0.89
00:48:16.000 Which literally means return.
00:48:17.000 Returning to God.
00:48:18.000 Recognizing the sins that we've committed and committing not to do them next year.
00:48:22.000 This is why it's funny.
00:48:24.000 For Orthodox Jews, you know, there are a lot of people making New Year's resolutions.
00:48:26.000 For us, we already made our New Year's resolutions back in September sometime.
00:48:30.000 So that's basically what it is.
00:48:33.000 The idea is that God opens the book of life and the book of death and decides in the next 10 days which one you will be written down in.
00:48:39.000 And so you see Jews 1.00
00:48:40.000 praying uh in an ordinate amount uh and giving charity uh and and performing uh good acts and and trying to fulfill more commandments that begins tomorrow uh and what's cool is that we celebrate the judgment right it's not something that we fear on Rosh Hashanah it's supposed to be one of the happier days of the year we eat apples with honey for a new year
00:48:58.000 We are supposed to celebrate God's creation of the earth and trust in God that if we do what we are supposed to do for Him, that He is going to fulfill us spiritually the way that He has promised to do.
00:49:05.000 So that's what Rosh Hashanah is all about. 0.82
00:49:07.000 I will be out tomorrow.
00:49:07.000 I will be out Friday.
00:49:08.000 I will be here all of next week.
00:49:10.000 So I will see you on Monday.
00:49:11.000 Please, that's a long weekend.
00:49:13.000 That's a lot of time for you guys to really screw things up.
00:49:15.000 If you could avoid doing that until I get back so I can talk about it, I would very much appreciate it.
00:49:20.000 If not, you're on your own.
00:49:22.000 Enjoy.
00:49:23.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:49:23.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.