California Governor Gavin Newsom is leading the resistance, and he s making dramatic speeches about it. Plus, we discuss if President Trump should just let the city of Los Angeles burn. And Victor Orban stops by for part two of our interview.
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00:00:40.000Well, folks, Democrats believe that they have found their point of resistance and the new leader of the resistance will be the same as the kind of old leader of the resistance, Kendall Gavin Newsom, the governor of California.
00:00:52.000He has presided over a great fleeing from his state.
00:00:56.000Obviously, I'm one of the people who left his state.
00:01:00.000I lived in LA for literally my entire life.
00:01:02.000And then I took myself, my family, my parents, my company, and we all moved out of LA thanks to the governance of people like Gavin Newsom.
00:01:11.000But now Gavin Newsom believes that he has his road to 2028 paved for him.
00:01:16.000He believes that because obviously we have watched a spate of riots in Los Angeles.
00:01:21.000First, we were told by the media the riots didn't exist.
00:01:24.000As it turns out, the riots very much do exist, which we'll get to in a moment.
00:01:27.000But Gavin Newsom is using President Trump's unleashing of federal forces to essentially help protect ICE agents in doing their job as an excuse to claim that he is now standing up to authoritarianism in the United States of America.
00:01:41.000And so he delivered another one of his very overdramatic, ridiculous speeches last night.
00:01:47.000This was supposed to be the end of Independence Day, and he's Bill Pullman.
00:02:00.000Well, you can see that he's talking and nothing is coming out, which actually is an improvement because when he talks and sound does come out, the sound is usually stupid.
00:02:15.000We must resist the federal encroachments.
00:02:17.000Now, remember, what are the federal encroachments?
00:02:19.000ICE agents were sent to Los Angeles to do federal immigration raids, to pick up illegal immigrants and to deport them.
00:02:26.000That is what federal law says you are supposed to do.
00:02:28.000Now, we can get into the politics of who should be deported and why and how and where in a moment, but it is certainly within the purview of ICE to actually pick up illegal immigrants and then to process them for deportation.
00:02:40.000That is all well within the remit of the federal government.
00:02:42.000And then riots began, and the president was not willing to wait for Gavin Newsom to allow that to continue to fester.
00:02:49.000So instead, he activated the National Guard and sent them there in a support role for ICE.
00:02:54.000And he also activated some Marines in a support role for the National Guard.
00:02:58.000According to Gavin Newsom, all of this amounts to an extra-constitutional coup, the beginning of a monarchic America in which Hitlerian Donald Trump is unleashing federal forces in order to take full control of the American body politic.
00:03:11.000Here is Gavin Newsom almost tearing up.
00:03:18.000And so all of this comes off incredibly fake.
00:03:21.000This moment, we all need to stand up and be held to account a higher level of accountability.
00:03:27.000If you exercise your First Amendment rights, please, please do it peacefully.
00:03:32.000I know many of you are feeling deep anxiety, stress, and fear, but I want you to know that you are the antidote to that fear and that anxiety.
00:03:42.000What Donald Trump wants most is your fealty, your silence to be complicit in this moment.
00:03:53.000What he wants most is your fealty and your silence.
00:03:56.000I think what President Trump would like is for you to stop burning Waymos.
00:04:00.000And that's the thing that President Trump would like the most, actually.
00:04:04.000Now, a judge did rule yesterday that Gavin Newsom, he had attempted to stop via an injunctive relief lawsuit what President Trump is trying to do in Los Angeles.
00:04:14.000And the judge was like, nah, he has the legal ability to do this.
00:04:32.000Well, according to the Washington Post, that's an American president in 2025 threatening a political opponent who happens to be a sitting governor.
00:04:39.000That's not with precedent in modern times.
00:04:40.000That's what we see around the globe in authoritarian regimes.
00:04:44.000That's because President Trump effectively joked about arresting Gavin Newsom because Tom Homan, his border czar, had said that if Gavin Newsom violates federal law, Then he will be subject to federal law, just like every other citizen.
00:04:53.000And again, this does not ring true, given the fact that Democrats tried to imprison President Trump multiple times over the course of the last two years.
00:05:01.000So what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
00:05:03.000If you are violating the law, then the law should apply to you.
00:05:06.000And again, there is no ongoing effort to jail Gavin Newsom, despite the fact that he is, in fact, a horrible governor.
00:05:12.000He has every right to be a horrible government.
00:05:28.000He was the face of the resistance in the first term and a welcoming greeter during Trump's initial visit to California in his second term.
00:05:34.000All the while, he continued suing Trump while keeping up a cordial back-channel relationship.
00:05:38.000On Monday, he sounded like he was the end with Trump, calling him unrestrained and unhinged.
00:05:43.000He said on Monday, Trump is a very different president than his first foray in office.
00:05:47.000You've seen that as to how it relates to how he has completely obliterated any oversight from Congress, how he seeks to obliterate oversight from the judicial branch by threatening impeachment of judges and running up to the edge as it relates to court orders.
00:05:58.000So again, this is all about Gavin Newsom running for president in 2028.
00:06:02.000And what he is hoping is that becoming the face of a resistance to Trump is going to jog him to victory in Democratic primaries.
00:06:10.000Now, meanwhile, it is hilarious because the Democrats keep claiming several things at once.
00:06:57.000If there was no unrest, why do you need a curfew?
00:06:59.000They kept saying there was no big deal in LA, so why are you declaring a curfew in downtown LA?
00:07:03.000I wanted to let the city know that I have declared a local emergency and issued a curfew for downtown Los Angeles to stop the vandalism, to stop the looting.
00:07:17.000Many businesses have now been affected by or vandalized.
00:07:22.000Last night there were 23 businesses that were looted and I think that if you drive through Downtown LA, the graffiti is everywhere and has caused significant damages to businesses and a number of properties.
00:07:38.000So my message to you is, if you do not live or work in downtown LA, avoid the area.
00:07:45.000Law enforcement will arrest individuals who break the curfew, and you will be prosecuted.
00:07:51.000I will consult with elected leaders and law enforcement officials tomorrow on the continuation of the curfew, but we certainly expect for it to last for several days.
00:08:00.000You look and look at the map, and you can see that the city of Los Angeles is a massive area, 502 square miles.
00:08:09.000The area of downtown where the curfew will take place is one square mile.
00:08:15.000I think it is important to point this out, not to minimize the vandalism and violence that has taken place there.
00:08:21.000It has been significant, but it is extremely important to know that what is happening in this one square mile is not affecting the cities.
00:08:45.000The LAPD for years has been told to allow this sort of stuff to happen.
00:08:48.000LAPD officers, when they join up, they want to stop crime and they've been told actively by the politicians in the city not to stop crime, not to get in the way of the crime.
00:08:56.000And then when things go wrong, then all of a sudden it's like, well, the cops will handle it.
00:08:59.000It's one of the major problems with the city of Los Angeles, which is, by the statistics, one of the least staffed police forces in America.
00:09:08.000Just on a population to police force level, incredibly understaffed police force, and they are told not to do.
00:09:15.000Karen Bass admitted that the entire city is covered in graffiti, so much so that she's concerned that they may not be able to actually have the World Cup in L.A. because of the levels of damage that have occurred.
00:09:26.000Especially of the graffiti that is just blanketing a number of blocks has been extensive.
00:09:34.000We are one year away from the World Cup.
00:09:37.000This is about beautifying our city and bringing our city together.
00:09:40.000And so I am calling on business leaders, community leaders, faith leaders to come together downtown in the next few days to talk about how we are going to clean up the city.
00:09:52.000Obviously, city workers are already out there removing the graffiti, but this is so extensive it's going to take community-wide involvement.
00:10:00.000We had launched a program called Shine LA a couple of months ago in preparation for the World Cup, We need people from all over the city to come to downtown and to help with this effort.
00:10:17.000So things are going amazingly well in LA.
00:10:20.000I keep saying hilariously because it actually is kind of funny.
00:10:23.000Like in a dark way, it is very, very funny.
00:10:25.000That the worst Democrats run a place, and then the more it requires federal intervention, the more the person who ran the place is deemed a hero by the media.
00:10:33.000So if you're a horrible mayor of L.A. and you help run the place into the ground, so much so that federal troops have to be called in to help stop rioting, and then you yell at the president, this makes you a hero.
00:10:44.000The headline from the New York Times, quote, Karen Bass is getting a second chance to lead her city through a crisis.
00:10:49.000Ms. Bass struggled amid criticism of her initial response to the L.A. fires in January.
00:10:53.000The opposition over President Trump's immigration raids have offered her an opportunity.
00:10:57.000You see, she's run the city like complete crap, but she now has an opportunity to be a resistance hero because she gets to yell at President Trump.
00:11:04.000And as we all know, that is the most important thing, is yelling at President Trump.
00:11:08.000And every Democrat knows this, which is why they have universally decided that the problem in California is not extraordinarily high rates of illegal immigration.
00:11:16.000It is not the massive draw on public services represented.
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00:13:49.000Senator Adam Schiff, who made his career saying false things about President Trump.
00:13:52.000Senator Schiff used to be Congressman Schiff and he spent And it's this deliberate kind of provocation.
00:14:20.000That is only escalating the situation.
00:14:22.000But the president doesn't care about making it worse.
00:14:25.000He's more than happy to see violent protests.
00:14:28.000It gives him something to talk about, something other than his big ugly bill that's going to blow a hole in the deficit and take away people's health care.
00:14:36.000So for him, this is a wonderful distraction.
00:14:43.000So again, the problem isn't with governance in California, which has created this morass.
00:14:47.000The problem is President Trump reacting to the morass.
00:14:50.000The California Attorney General, Rob Bonta, who presides over a state that actively attempts to impede federal law enforcement in doing its job.
00:15:12.000It seems that he wants things to explode because that will give him the excuse that he wants to try to seize more power, which is his MO.
00:15:20.000Besides having a very complicated relationship with the truth and being a hypocrite, he is on an ongoing mission to seize more power that is not his.
00:15:32.000Yes, it is definitely seizing more power to defend ice installations in Los Angeles.
00:15:57.000The president has deployed 2,000 National Guard members to LA.
00:16:03.000I'm just going to point out 2,000 National Guard members, 4 million people living Yeah, I'm sorry, it doesn't sound like a full-scale invasion to me.
00:16:31.000LA City is home to nearly 900,000 undocumented immigrants based on a 2020 study by USC.
00:16:38.000LA County, Which encompasses the city and the surrounding areas, has between 810 and 830,000 undocumented immigrants.
00:16:46.000California statewide has somewhere between 1.8 million and 2.6 million illegal immigrants.
00:16:53.000And apparently, according to Perplexity, nearly 30% of all Latinos in California are either undocumented themselves or live with somebody who is undocumented.
00:17:03.000The way that USC actually determined that, I asked again Perplexity for the answer.
00:17:07.000is what they call the residual method.
00:17:09.000Apparently, that involves calculating the total foreign-born population in the area, subtracting the number of foreign-born individuals who are legal permanent residents, refugees, or have other legal authorization to live or work in the United States.
00:17:20.000And then the difference, a residual, is an estimate of the illegal immigrant population.
00:17:24.000Anyway, the LA County Board of Supervisors member, Lindsay Horvath, also says that the real problem here is, again, not failure to enforce the law.
00:17:31.000The real problem is the enforcement of the law.
00:17:33.000If you enforce the law, clearly that's provocative.
00:17:35.000The best way to avoid provoking people is to let them run wild in the city of Los Angeles and to allow illegal immigration to just be a thing.
00:17:51.000What is escalating this situation is the increased presence, and it's happening around the federal building, and it's intended to intimidate, it's intended to be a scare tactic, and it's intended to escalate instead of calm down what's happening on our streets.
00:19:05.000Representative Maxine Waters, who again has had very little problem with violence in the city of Los Angeles, says, listen, there's no problem here.
00:19:47.000All the video that you've been seeing of cars burning and people driving around the wreckage with Mexican flags, all of that is no violence, obviously.
00:20:19.000These ICE agents, they must retreat in order for the locals to be given the opportunity to restore order because that is what we are demanding right now.
00:20:33.000Representative Judy Chu of California.
00:20:35.000Again, the constant Democratic drumbeat here is that the problem is not violation of law.
00:20:58.000And now because the protests are happening, Trump sent in the National Guard without the governor's approval.
00:21:04.000On top of that, he's sending in the Marines and threatening to arrest a sitting governor.
00:21:11.000This is unprecedented, dangerous, and authoritarian.
00:21:17.000And then finally, we reach the culmination of this particular line of argument.
00:21:20.000You have the Congressional Black Caucus Chair Yvette Clark, Representative from New York, saying what you know Democrats have wanted all along, all along since 2016.
00:21:49.000And now, you can expect that over the course of the next few days, there will be protests spreading nationwide.
00:21:55.000According to NBC News, activists gathered in New York, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta, and elsewhere, rebuking the Trump administration's tough stance against migrants and its aggressive roundup efforts.
00:22:51.000It has the ability to enforce federal law.
00:22:54.000So in Los Angeles, we believe that ICE, which is a federal law enforcement agency, has the right to safely conduct operations in any state and any jurisdiction in the country.
00:23:06.000especially after 21 million illegals have crossed our border under the previous administration.
00:23:12.000So, again, I think that is a fairly commonsensical idea is that ICE has the capacity to do.
00:23:20.000So right now, the question is, who's grabbing that middle of the American popular imagination?
00:23:24.000Is it the Republicans who say, listen, ICE gets to deport illegal immigrants?
00:23:28.000And if you start burning cars, then we're going to send the National Guard.
00:23:31.000Or is it the Democrats are like, ah, a few burning cars here and there.
00:23:48.000And he said, listen, if I have to invoke the Insurrection Act, which is not done as of yet, the Insurrection Act would essentially allow federal troops to engage in civilian law efforts as opposed to support roles.
00:24:15.000Do you think somebody walks up to a curb and starts hammering pieces out, has all the equipment necessary, and starts handing it out to people to use as a weapon?
00:24:41.000But I can tell you, last night was terrible.
00:24:46.000This is something Senator Tom Cotton has been calling for for a while.
00:24:49.000We had him on as a guest just a couple of days ago about all of this.
00:24:53.000He has a piece in the Wall Street Journal reiterating the point he made back in 2020 during the BLM riots.
00:24:58.000He says, as always, local police are the first line of defense.
00:25:00.000But when the police can't restore order or aren't allowed to by Democratic mayors, the National Guard must be called out.
00:25:05.000We reached this point in Los Angeles where the police chief has said that the disgusting violence has overwhelmed his forces, adding, quote, there's no limit to what they're doing to our officers, and we've seen violence at a level that disgusts every good person.
00:25:15.000Mr. Newsom, says Senator Cotton, incompetent and ideological all at once, refused to mobilize the National Guard, leaving Mr. Trump little choice, but to federalize the California Guard to protect federal law enforcement agents and restore order.
00:25:26.000He has unquestioned legal authority to do so, plus many precedents.
00:25:29.000In my own state, a Democratic governor mobilized the Arkansas Guard to obstruct the desegregation of Little Rock Central High School in 1957.
00:25:35.000Finally, if the Guard alone can't restore order and protect federal officers and property, And there is a legal basis to do all of this.
00:25:48.000President Trump makes the point that if the federal government did not get involved, L.A. would continue to burn.
00:25:55.000If we didn't get involved, right now, Los Angeles would be burning, just like it was burning a number of months ago with all the houses that were lost.
00:26:05.000Los Angeles right now would be on fire.
00:26:51.000And we are not going to stand by and watch while they are performed.
00:26:55.000Now, what's amazing about all this, truly, what's amazing about all of this is that the Democratic Party, they theoretically don't have to play it this way.
00:27:03.000Let's assume for a second that you are a strategist for the Democrats.
00:27:07.000Let's assume you're a strategist for the failing and flailing Democratic Party.
00:27:11.000And you had the information that Stephen Miller and the Trump administration were sending ICE agents out to simply raid local parking lots at the Home Depot.
00:27:22.000One is, you can wink and nod at rioters, which is what Democrats are doing right now while blaming President Trump.
00:27:27.000Number two is, you could compile lists of the people who are being arraigned, who are being brought up for deportation, and you could find the most sympathetic cases, and then you could say that the Trump administration is exceeding its mandate, that when it comes to immigration, There are more popular aspects of immigration enforcement and less popular aspects of immigration enforcement.
00:28:06.000It's wrong, and President Trump is right to stop that.
00:28:09.000When it comes to deportation of people in the United States, we have to first target.
00:28:12.000Criminal illegal immigrants, not just random grandma at the flea market.
00:28:18.000That's the case the Democrats should be making, and they would have some polling data to at least support that, right?
00:28:22.000They could trot out some sympathetic stories about innocent people who are illegal immigrants, and sure, they technically can be deported, but at the same time, do you really want ICE agents all over the United States deporting 20 million people?
00:28:34.000What the polling suggests on this is that the American people are a little more divided on this.
00:28:39.000Still to come on the show, why I think that perhaps President Trump should just let LA burn, if that's what they're asking for.
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00:31:11.000Well, 97% of Americans believe that if you commit a violent crime, you should be deported.
00:31:15.00052% believe that if you commit a non-violent crime, you should be deported.
00:31:19.00044% believe that if you arrived in the last four years, you should be deported.
00:31:23.000But only 15% of that 51% believe that if you have a job, you should be deported.
00:31:29.000That if your parents of children born in the United States, that if you came here and your kid's now an American citizen, you should be deported.
00:31:39.000Only 9% believe that people who came as children should be deported.
00:31:42.000So if you're a smart Democrat, what you would do is find the categories of people who most And you would focus in on the Trump administration deporting those people.
00:31:52.000By the way, the Trump administration knows this, which is why they constantly couch their immigration efforts as targeting criminal illegal immigration.
00:32:00.000But Democrats are apparently too stupid and too doctrinaire for any of that.
00:32:04.000Okay, now, what should be done here long term?
00:33:19.000And what should be done about illegal immigration?
00:33:21.000Well, the states that actually don't want illegal immigrants to live there will work hand in glove with the Trump administration to deport as many people as possible.
00:33:28.000And that will push illegal immigrants to leave red states and then move to blue states.
00:33:33.000It turns out that one of the single most effective political tactics of my lifetime.
00:33:39.000Was Republican governors like Ron DeSantis in Florida and Greg Abbott in Texas saying that if Joe Biden was going to leave the border open, they were just going to give bus tickets to illegal immigrants to blue areas like Chicago and New York.
00:33:49.000Because it demonstrated that when blue states come down to it, they don't want illegal immigrants there either.
00:33:55.000But make Democrats live by their own standards.
00:34:09.000In deporting criminal illegal immigrants or victimizing American citizens.
00:34:12.000When it comes to states that have decided that they wish to bankrupt themselves on the back of illegal immigration, maybe President Trump should just let them do it.
00:34:26.000California SB 54 stops state and local law enforcement from assisting federal law enforcement.
00:34:31.000It includes banning cops from asking about immigration status, holding illegal immigrants for the feds after they've been arrested.
00:34:37.000And sharing non-public personal information with ICE.
00:34:40.000The Trust Act in California, which again is law, requires local law enforcement ask for judicial warrants before even complying with ICE detainer requests.
00:34:47.000So you have a in jail and that person's an illegal immigrant and ICE puts out a detainer request.
00:34:53.000If you don't have a judicial warrant, then California will not allow you to comply with the detainer request.
00:34:59.000California has proposed bills to prevent employers from even allowing ICE access to workplaces.
00:35:05.000In violation of federal law, by the way, Or employee records without a court order.
00:35:10.000Landlords are not allowed to ask about immigration status in California.
00:35:14.000California provides driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.
00:35:16.000Medi-Cal, which is essentially Medicaid for California citizens, but also for illegal immigrants.
00:36:03.000And there are a bunch of reasons for this, including, by the way, the fact that, generally speaking, states should be allowed to be states.
00:36:10.000Truly, the federal government controls immigration policy at the border.
00:36:40.000And you know this, because President Trump wasn't unleashing tens of thousands of ICE agents in California.
00:36:45.000He was unleashing, like, small coteries of 100 ICE agents in California to go pick up some people.
00:36:50.000That's what the immigration raids were.
00:36:53.000The federal government should, of course, try to enforce federal law, but it's not up to the federal government to make states run properly.
00:36:59.000And in fact, When the federal government under Joe Biden was attempting to get states to stop enforcing immigration law, that was bad too.
00:37:39.000Because it turns out that until the American people get it good and hard, sometimes they stick their hand in the stove and then it burns and they remove their hand.
00:37:47.000Californians have been sticking their hand in the stove for three decades at this point.
00:37:52.000At a certain point, they might want to wake up, but things are going to have to get pretty bad in order for them to do that.
00:38:02.000And as for illegal immigration itself, if other states decide to crack down on illegal immigration and work with the federal government to stop illegal immigration, more illegal immigrants will go to California.
00:38:13.000California, by the way, is already somewhere between 7% and 10% of its population is illegal immigrants.
00:38:19.000At least 2.6 million illegal immigrants live there, as per the LA Times.
00:38:23.000That is currently 7% of the entire state population of California.
00:38:26.000It's probably significantly higher than that.
00:38:29.000The Los Angeles area alone probably has upward of a million illegal immigrants.
00:38:38.000And by the way, we'll save the American federal taxpayers some money.
00:38:42.000Because it turns out it's kind of expensive to deploy the National Guard.
00:38:44.000The projected cost of the current protest handling by the National Guard and the Marines is supposedly somewhere in the neighborhood of $134 million.
00:38:55.000So that people in LA can yell at the National Guard for enforcing the law.
00:39:01.000If they voted for that, listen, I lived in that state for years and I paid millions of dollars in taxes to the California state government for this kind of crappy law enforcement response, which is not the fault of the cops.
00:39:33.000Let Gavin Newsom own his state that is collapsing due to the cost of things like illegal immigration and massive social programming, huge debt, driving business out of the state with elevated taxes, lack of law enforcement.
00:39:48.000You want to turn your state into Detroit, my man?
00:42:54.000And I can say that nowadays the structure of the Hungarian economy serves the purpose of national sovereignty while it's based on private ownership, where it's embedded into the international commerce and trade, while we welcome foreign investors.
00:43:08.000So we are part, if you wish, of the Western and also the Eastern economic world.
00:43:14.000The question for nations to prevail Do you actually need the government to set objectives?
00:43:23.000I would like, if it didn't have to set objectives, that the nation itself would be able to guarantee long-term existence.
00:43:30.000But unfortunately, that's not the situation.
00:43:32.000First and foremost, we are in problems with the demography.
00:43:36.000We are a country of 10 million people, and we have less children born than people dying.
00:43:43.000But if this carries on, we are going to be in dire straits.
00:43:46.000First economically, then in social system, and then ultimately the whole, I think, we will just fall below the critical size where we are able to fend for ourselves, defend ourselves.
00:44:47.000I think in institutions that they operate, schools, hospitals operated by the churches, Hungary spends So there is an economic nationalism also.
00:45:04.000And you mentioned a couple of things there with regard to pronatalism policy that are really interesting.
00:45:08.000One is obviously the tax structures and incentives you've created for families to have more kids.
00:45:13.000It appears that that had a spiking effect initially in people having more kids, usually families with a lot of kids having one more or two more kids.
00:45:20.000And then that seems to have evened out.
00:45:29.000And you see here Israel as an actually great example.
00:45:32.000It's the only westernized country that actually is reproducing above replacement rates in the middle of wars, in the middle of conflict, specifically because of a feeling of patriotism.
00:45:40.000You see people who are very secular in Israel having three or four kids.
00:45:43.000And so your focus on church and your focus on patriotism here.
00:45:49.000That focus, it seems to me, is gonna be the one that is more likely to produce families that are having more children.
00:45:56.000Israel is a great mystery for all of us.
00:45:59.000Of course, we are looking for positive examples.
00:46:02.000They are really making a good effort of it, and we don't understand how they are doing it.
00:46:06.000We are in a much easier situation, and we're still unable to replicate them.
00:46:10.000So I will continue to study also how Israeli politics is actually impacting families, something we could actually just learn, tricks from them.
00:46:19.000I have been for decades a good friend of Prime Minister Netanyahu, even when he was a finance minister.
00:46:25.000When the Prime Minister and I was in opposition, we had professional collaboration, how we could actually link economic efficiency with family support.
00:46:34.000What concerns us, what we are doing is we are linking work, labour with the family through the taxation system.
00:46:44.000In 2010, in this country, 61% of people were employed, which was an extremely low amount.
00:47:42.000So there is a special focus on supporting mothers.
00:47:45.000So a mother who has given birth to three children, and from January onwards, two children, they are tax-free until the end of their life in Hungary.
00:47:55.000So if you have two children and you're a woman, if you are single or you are married, you will not pay personal income tax in order to support, because we believe the mother is the key of the family.
00:48:59.000Mothers, family support measures are a very intricate system that helps to support or tries to support in every phase of life.
00:49:07.000On my conviction, the future of Hungarians lies in the future of families.
00:49:11.000Family is the most important building block.
00:49:14.000After that comes the nation and then the Lord.
00:49:17.000And if these three together, everything works fine.
00:49:20.000One of the words we've mentioned a couple of times, which has become a dirty word among secularists, is Christianity and the strong Christian identity of Hungary.
00:49:27.000And one of the reasons for that is a sort of weird belief that's taken hold in the West, that the more Christian a country is, somehow, the less tolerant it is.
00:49:36.000And obviously, Budapest proves that that's not true.
00:49:50.000Can you talk about what Christianity means to the Hungarian identity?
00:49:53.000How you've fostered cooperation between government and religion in the country?
00:50:00.000Christianity and nation and the relation between the two is very, very special and not very easy to digest for an American.
00:50:11.000In Hungarian history, we have had many occasions when it was only Christianity and Church that helped the national identity to prevail.
00:50:22.000So, if you are a believer or not, everybody in Hungary agrees that without Christianity, there would be no Hungarian state, no Hungary.
00:50:33.000And this is something stipulated in the Constitution or the Constitution recognizes the force of It is a historic experience.
00:50:46.000It's nothing we should argue for philosophically.
00:51:07.000The government cannot spread the gospel.
00:51:11.000It's up to the church and it's up to the priest.
00:51:13.000Sometimes they do a good job of it, sometimes not.
00:51:16.000In the whole of Europe, things are not quite in order.
00:51:19.000But in the whole of Europe, Hungary is one single country where church-run institutions.
00:51:27.000Their number of church-run institutions is increasing.
00:51:31.000More than 20% of all schools are run by churches.
00:51:35.000More than 80% of all children's institutions are operated by churches.
00:51:39.000Some of our hospitals are run by churches, and I myself, with a self-declared, publicly declared policy, I'm helping churches to take over as many public institutions if those who work there, who are actually employed there, are not against this, because the church runs schools better than the state can.
00:51:59.000The church runs a hospital better than the state can.
00:52:05.000So Christianity, beyond the belief and faith, is also rendering public service, social service that everybody needs.
00:52:14.000So in Hungary you can be a Jew, you can be a Pravoslav, you can be a Catholic, you can be a Calvinist, but still it's a community of faith that you belong to and in itself belonging to a community of faith is a positive thing.
00:52:28.000It's good for the nation, it's good for Hungary, it's good for your children, it's good for the future.
00:52:32.000These faith communities, their strength reinforces the whole country.
00:52:37.000So the government believes that although there is no interference into church affairs, like church cannot interfere into state, it is secularized.
00:53:02.000So, to turn to the United States, you obviously have a very warm relationship with President Trump.
00:53:06.000You had a warm relationship with him during his first term.
00:53:08.000You have a good relationship with him during his second term.
00:53:10.000What would you like to see the United States do in terms of its foreign policy in order to strengthen and support allies like Hungary, build up those alliances around the world?
00:53:20.000As you know, there's sort of an open debate, even on the right in the United States, between, as you say, a more isolationist foreign policy and a more hawkish and interventionist foreign policy.
00:53:30.000Where do countries like Hungary see the United States as the most important in the world.
00:53:36.000There are traditional issues in foreign policy, security, military force, GDP, investment, trade, etc.
00:53:47.000But now, in the Western world, behind all this, there is an even more important struggle going on, what I called a struggle for the soul of the West.
00:53:59.000Leftist progressives or rightist conservative traditional Christian.
00:54:46.000And the reason I supported Trump in 2015 already, President Trump, that he wins the 2016 elections, because I felt that if somebody is not coming in America who is going to come to our assistance, we will lose the fight for the soul.
00:57:17.000That's why we trust and hope for his And while the liberal political network has been financed in the past from America substantially, it was American money spent here in Hungary financing our enemies from USAID.
00:57:34.000Well, the US president cut this off, published this, showed it for the world, how it works.
00:57:58.000So meanwhile, for you as a smaller country, having to navigate an increasingly multipolar world where it's not just the United States as global hegemon facing down the Soviet Union, you now have the United States, which is dominant in its arena of the world.
00:58:12.000It's unclear whether China's growing power is going to be countered by a group of allies or whether they're just going to continue to expand their power.
00:58:19.000Russia obviously is an expansionist power in Ukraine.
00:58:24.000How do you navigate a complicated world?
00:58:27.000It used to be a little bit more of a simple world, and it seems like it's getting more complicated.
01:02:20.000If you could speak to the American people, we are right now, what would your message to them be, looking at what you've been able to accomplish over the course of the last decade and a half?
01:02:31.000I don't want to interfere into American politics.
01:02:44.000So, with the greatest respect, with all your humility, I ask Americans to support their president so that he can bring peace to the world and so that he can win the battle for the soul of the West, for the benefit of families, for nation and Christianity.
01:03:17.000Well, meanwhile, new inflation report out.
01:03:20.000And basically, inflation is even with where it was last month, which is to say it is increasing year over year, but at a lower rate than it had been, say, six months ago.
01:03:29.000The question of inflation is not completely done yet.
01:03:32.000According to the Wall Street Journal, consumer prices picked up in May.
01:03:35.000A month when President Trump's trade war continued to ebb and flow and businesses sought to navigate shifting policies.
01:03:39.000That was in line with the 2.4% rise expected by economists surveyed by the Wall Street Journal.
01:03:44.000Prices excluding food and energy categories and so-called core CPI rose 2.8% that's slightly below forecast for a 2.9% increase.
01:03:54.000The Federal Reserve is going to hold out.
01:03:55.000They are not going to increase or decrease the interest rates at this point.
01:03:58.000They're going to leave things steady because they have to wait to see how the tariff war sort of shakes up.
01:04:04.000At this point, meanwhile, the president has announced that he has come to a deal with the Chinese on trade.
01:04:11.000That trade deal, according to the president of the United States, allows China to supply rare earths and magnets.
01:04:18.000The United States would then allow Chinese students to continue to study in the United States.
01:04:24.000The fact that that's what China wants gives you a little bit of pause.
01:04:27.000I mean, why does the Chinese communist government really, really want so many Chinese students studying at American universities?
01:04:33.000A little bit, little bit questionable about that.
01:04:36.000President Trump said we are getting a total of 55% tariffs.
01:04:39.000China is getting 10%, meaning that China will have to pay 55% tariffs on the goods that it imports to the United States, and we will have to pay 10% on the goods that we import to China.
01:04:51.000The president posts that he and Xi would work together to open up China to U.S. trade.
01:04:55.000This would be a great win for both countries.
01:04:58.000Now, to be clear, That actual rate that was just negotiated is actually higher than the current rate.
01:05:03.000So you'll remember that they were at 125% on Chinese goods.
01:05:08.000Americans were at 125% on Chinese goods.
01:05:10.000And then President Trump lowered it to 30%.
01:05:12.000Well, now it's back up to 55%, presumably, longer term.
01:05:16.000That is going to create some level of price inflation.
01:05:19.000So that's a pretty hefty duty, obviously.
01:05:23.000So where exactly is this going to end up?
01:05:27.000So it's unclear what the actual details are going to be.
01:05:31.000China is going to maintain a new export control system it set up in April for rare earths, which gives it the power to clamp down in the future if it wants to strike back against the Trump administration.
01:05:41.000So, again, still a lot of roiling in the trade markets.
01:05:46.000The stock market this morning didn't seem to jump on the news.
01:05:51.000Not a lot of sanguinity in the markets that things are going to work themselves out on the trade front.
01:05:55.000And that combined with the fact that the World Bank, It's now estimating that the U.S. growth rate is going to halve because of this uncertainty and tariff war.
01:06:03.000It's got investors a little bit on edge.
01:06:06.000According to the Wall Street Journal, economic growth in the United States might halve this year as a result of President Trump's tariff policies, while the global economy is set to suffer a more modest but still significant slowdown.
01:06:15.000They say that the U.S. economy will grow by just 1.4% in 2025.
01:06:20.000That's a sharp deceleration from 2.8% expansion in 2024, and it's a massive decrease from what they expected.
01:06:27.000In January, when President Trump was to take office, they were projecting a 2.3% increase in U.S. GDP.
01:06:36.000So, again, a lot of uncertainty in the markets.
01:06:41.000By the way, this is just one reason, uncertainty in the markets, that I bought myself some gold last month because I'm concerned about the long-term fiscal foundation of the United States.
01:06:50.000There are a bunch of good reasons that you want to own precious metals right now.
01:06:58.000Just on the show, a couple of weeks ago, you'll remember I spoke with the former head of the IMF, Kenneth Rogoff of Harvard, who is not a liberal, about the likelihood of heading into a recession.
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01:07:53.000Meanwhile, in media news, Miranda Devine, excellent columnist over at the New York Post.
01:07:57.000She has a brand new podcast that is coming out called Pod Force One, in which she interviews the President of the United States once a month.
01:08:03.000She joined me a few days ago to talk about this.
01:08:50.000So my plan is to draw out more of the person behind who he is, because even though he's kind of an open book, there are a lot of aspects of his personality that I think are important.
01:09:08.000He really, I mean, everything from his musical talent, he really does have this uncanny, innate talent that he was spotted by his parents when they sent him for aptitude testing when he was a child and his father wasn't too happy about it.
01:09:27.000But the way Donald Trump describes it, he's a musical genius and he doesn't really find much outlet in that, except if you notice that he's always fiddling with an iPad when he's at home.
01:09:47.000His rallies were part of their great popularity from the very beginning was that he chooses all this kind of boomer music that gets everybody up and dancing and in a really good mood.
01:10:00.000You just look at the Village People song, who would have thought that YMCA would become his anthem?
01:10:09.000And, you know, also just trying to probe.
01:10:13.000What his kind of philosophy is behind his very kind of smorgasbord of different policies.
01:10:21.000You can't really pin him down as a classical, you know, Republican or Democrat or fiscal hawk or whatever it is.
01:10:29.000And I think that comes from not just being a dilettante, but from a deep personal belief system that was, you know, formed in this very liberal city of New York.
01:10:43.000Yeah, I think one of the things that you mentioned there is something that I've been pointing out on the show for a long time.
01:10:46.000I am a person who's been conservative since I was old enough to talk about politics.
01:10:50.000But President Trump is not ideological.
01:10:55.000He's somebody who comes from the business world, and particularly the New York real estate world, where you do what you have to do to get the thing built.
01:11:00.000And I think that that is essentially, if you had to boil down President Trump in a nutshell, that's who he is.
01:11:06.000So many of the critiques of President Trump are actually not the bug, they are the feature.
01:11:12.000So he gets critiqued for being inconsistent.
01:11:14.000But inconsistency, as it was once said, is the hobgoblin of little minds sometimes when it comes to the sort of idea that you try policies.
01:11:22.000If they fail, you move away from those policies.
01:11:36.000He was a lion in the New York real estate developer world, which is really a dog-eat-dog, lion-eat-lion environment.
01:11:45.000And I remember talking to him once about one of those early sort of Republican primary debates when he coined the nickname And I said, you know, did you formulate that beforehand or how did that come about?
01:12:02.000Because it was so incredibly effective.
01:12:04.000It just killed Jeb Bush's campaign dead.
01:12:07.000And he said, no, it just came to me on the stage because I'd just been back in New York.
01:12:14.000He'd had this very torrid breakfast with this Chinese businessman from China who he'd I said, did you?
01:12:25.000And this guy's across the boardroom table from him in Trump Tower.
01:12:30.000And the way Donald Trump describes it very colourfully is that, you know, he was so angry that the scrambled egg was spitting out of his mouth.
01:12:38.000And so he sort of managed that, you know, very aggressive encounter.
01:12:43.000And then he had to fly off to the debate.
01:12:46.000And he's standing up on stage with this cardigan-beclad Jeb Bush.
01:12:51.000And he just looked at him and thought, you know, the sort of stouches that I have to engage in in my business world are just so, you know, much more important and sort of difficult than what I'm doing here on this stage.
01:13:07.000So he just looked over at Jeb and thought, you know, you are so low energy and that insult.
01:13:14.000Just really struck to the core of who Jeb Bush was and the sort of feeling that the electorate had that there was something not quite right with him.
01:13:23.000And I think that's part of what Donald Trump's genius is.
01:13:27.000It's really the genius of the schoolyard bully who in an instant can take in the personality of somebody and find the sort of most vicious weapon to use to hurt them.
01:13:39.000You know, Miranda, we've talked about sort of the reality that President Trump will try a thing.
01:13:46.000If it fails, he'll move off the thing.
01:13:47.000The only downside of that is that it creates uncertainty.
01:13:50.000And that's obviously something that President Trump has to contend with.
01:13:53.000He has to contend with the fact that, for example, when it comes to trade policy, lack of certainty may keep our enemies on their toes, but it also may keep our friends on their toes, may keep business on its toes.
01:14:03.000When it comes to foreign policy, it's sort of unclear what's going to emerge.
01:14:06.000And that's why I think it's pretty important that you're going to be interviewing him regularly and checking back in with him because he's...
01:14:26.000I mean, tariffs is one of those things that I don't really know why he has such a bee in his bonnet about them, but he really loves them.
01:14:33.000And he's going against all sort of economic wisdom.
01:14:37.000You know, he's got some pretty heavy hitters in his economic cabinet, people, particularly I'm thinking of Treasury Secretary Scott Besant.
01:14:45.000And he's certainly not a tariff man, but he's, you know, worked out what it is that Donald Trump wants to do.
01:14:53.000And he's going about trying to implement it in the most successful way possible for America.
01:14:59.000Well, the podcast is going to be titled Pod Force One.