The Ben Shapiro Show - So It’s Biden, Then | Ep. 969

00:00:00.000 Joe Biden finally ends Bernie's red dreams, Biden gets aggressive with Michigan voters, and coronavirus continues to haunt the country.

00:00:07.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:00:20.000 Well, I know that right now you're thinking to yourself, where did this sexy new voice come from, Ben Shapiro?

00:00:24.000 Well, the answer is that it came from not sleeping for a full week, thanks to my child, combined with a fast day earlier this week.

00:00:31.000 So no, I'm not dying of coronavirus, and no, it has not translated into this brand new Barry White-like voice.

00:00:36.000 No, indeed, this is just me being a little bit dried out.

00:00:39.000 So hopefully my voice will be back to its nasal self quite soon.

00:00:42.000 Well, the big news last night, Joe Biden has taken command of the Democratic race.

00:00:46.000 He won four states, including Michigan in the primaries last night.

00:00:49.000 And that puts an end to Bernie Sanders and his red dreams, which is great news for the country.

00:00:54.000 It really is good news for the country because it would have been very bad.

00:00:57.000 If one of our major parties had circulated around a human being who was a backer of every communist regime known to man and was basically a Soviet fellow traveler for 30 years before the Soviet Union actually fell.

00:01:09.000 Now, that's a good thing.

00:01:10.000 I know there are a lot of people in Republican and conservative circles who today are a little bit upset because they feel like Bernie Sanders was more beatable than Joe Biden.

00:01:17.000 First of all, I think that Biden is eminently beatable.

00:01:19.000 If Donald Trump cannot beat a geriatric, half-senile, half-corrupt Joe Biden, then honestly, that's on Trump.

00:01:26.000 I mean, seriously, that's on Trump. 0.79

00:01:27.000 Joe Biden is not a formidable candidate by any stretch of the imagination.

00:01:31.000 If Trump is unable to beat him, that is on no one except for President Trump.

00:01:35.000 There are a lot of ways in which Hillary Clinton was actually a more formidable candidate than Joe Biden, namely that Hillary Clinton was capable of stringing a sentence together from time to time and was not apparently going senile.

00:01:45.000 She had other health problems, but senility was not one of them.

00:01:47.000 When I say that Biden is senile, by the way, again, this is not ageism.

00:01:50.000 This is called using your eyeballs.

00:01:52.000 It's called using your ears.

00:01:53.000 When you watch Joe Biden talk, the man can barely hold it together for a particular period of time.

00:01:58.000 And this is why his campaign has already said he's going to start doing shorter speeches, not longer speeches.

00:02:02.000 Look for him to barely be on the campaign trail in long, drawn out scenarios.

00:02:08.000 In fact, there's supposed to be a debate next week.

00:02:11.000 It's supposed to take place between Joe Biden and Bernie, because Bernie isn't dropping out.

00:02:14.000 He's going to carry this thing all the way to the convention, so he can try to parlay his delegates into some sort of power inside the DNC.

00:02:20.000 Well, they're supposed to basically have a one-on-one debate for two hours, no audience.

00:02:23.000 Now, normally, that would really help Biden.

00:02:26.000 The reason there's no audience, of course, is because of coronavirus.

00:02:28.000 Coronavirus concerns had both Biden and Bernie canceling rallies last night.

00:02:32.000 Biden gave his victory speech to a half-empty house, essentially.

00:02:35.000 It was a very weird dynamic.

00:02:37.000 They're supposed to have a debate the way that debates actually should be had in presidential arenas, which is no audience, because who the audience is really stacks the room.

00:02:46.000 Bernie has benefited in debates where a lot of his supporters are there, people shouting and screaming for Bernie.

00:02:51.000 Well, when there is no actual audience, then who exactly is Bernie going to play to?

00:02:54.000 The commies across America?

00:02:56.000 It's not going to play the same way.

00:02:57.000 There is one area, though, where Biden is particularly vulnerable, and that is that Biden has been able to hide behind the fact that there are 1,000 people on stage up until now to talk for like a grand total of 16 minutes.

00:03:08.000 Well, what happens when he suddenly has to fill an hour?

00:03:10.000 I mean, Joe Biden can't fill a paragraph without making some sort of awful gaffe about his wife being his sister or running for Senate.

00:03:17.000 Or AR-14s or something?

00:03:21.000 So it's a broader chance for the American public to get to know the man who is not all there.

00:03:26.000 So again, am I deeply worried that Trump cannot beat Biden?

00:03:29.000 No.

00:03:29.000 Do I think that Biden is a more formidable candidate than Sanders?

00:03:32.000 Yes, because I think that basically a rotted ham hock is a better candidate than Bernie Sanders.

00:03:37.000 But with all of that said, Joe Biden did run away last night with the vote, and a lot of that is a response directly to Bernie Sanders.

00:03:44.000 Some people are saying this was due to coronavirus.

00:03:45.000 It really isn't due to coronavirus.

00:03:46.000 It's due to the fact that people saw Bernie Sanders as the frontrunner.

00:03:49.000 He started to be analyzed as the frontrunner.

00:03:51.000 Everybody realized he was an old commie, and everybody ran headlong from him.

00:03:54.000 Coronavirus has exacerbated this because people are looking for a sense of safety for the same reason that people buy bonds.

00:04:00.000 When they feel volatility, they're buying into Joe Biden right now.

00:04:03.000 Because when there's volatility, you run to Chicken soup and hot chocolate and all of the sort of comfort foods.

00:04:09.000 Joe Biden is the comfort food of American politics.

00:04:12.000 Joe Biden is basically mashed potatoes.

00:04:14.000 I mean, with as much articulateness as a bowl of mashed potatoes.

00:04:18.000 He's just there, right?

00:04:20.000 He's there.

00:04:21.000 He's been there for a long time.

00:04:22.000 He doesn't worry you too much.

00:04:23.000 He isn't too spicy.

00:04:23.000 He isn't going to give you some sort of disease.

00:04:25.000 He's not going to completely botch or mishandle things.

00:04:27.000 He's just kind of there.

00:04:28.000 He's there like mashed potatoes are there.

00:04:30.000 And so people ran to Joe Biden as a sort of sense of security in an ever-changing, ever-volatile world.

00:04:36.000 We're going to get to more of these results and we'll get to Biden's response and Bernie's response and all of this because Bernie is done.

00:04:41.000 Bernie's not a thing anymore.

00:04:42.000 Now, does that mean that for the future, the socialist agenda is done?

00:04:45.000 That doesn't mean that at all.

00:04:46.000 As we will see, the demographic breakdown last night is very bad for the moderates in the Democratic Party for the future going forward from here.

00:04:53.000 But we'll get to that in just a moment first.

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00:06:21.000 So according to the New York Times, Joe Biden took command of the Democratic presidential race in decisive fashion on Tuesday, marshalling a powerful Multiracial coalition in the South and the Midwest that swept aside Senator Bernie Sanders and completed Mr. Biden's rapid transformation from a sometimes fumbling underdog into his party's likely nominee.

00:06:36.000 Well, he's still fumbling, but now he's the party's likely nominee.

00:06:39.000 Replicating the combination of voters that delivered him broad victories a week ago on Super Tuesday, Biden won Michigan, Missouri and Mississippi with overwhelming support from African Americans and with large margins among suburban and rural white voters.

00:06:51.000 Biden was also named the winner in Idaho Leaving little doubt by the end of the night that Sanders had lost his recent status as the progressive frontrunner in a race defined for months by feuding and factionalism on the moderate wing of the Democratic Party.

00:07:01.000 It wasn't until Wednesday morning that Sanders picked up his first victory in North Dakota.

00:07:05.000 Washington remained too close to call.

00:07:08.000 Biden demonstrated his successes on Super Tuesday reflected more than fleeting good fortune and that many Democratic voters had rallied behind his candidacy in a lasting enough way to erase his embarrassing setbacks last month in Iowa and New Hampshire.

00:07:20.000 So Joe Biden took to the stage last night to announce that he wants the support of the Bernie people.

00:07:26.000 He doesn't want them running headlong from him.

00:07:27.000 Good luck with this, Joe Biden.

00:07:29.000 So here is Biden making his speech last night.

00:07:31.000 I want to thank Bernie Sanders and his supporters for their tireless energy and their passion.

00:07:39.000 We share a common goal and together we'll defeat Donald Trump.

00:07:44.000 We'll defeat him together.

00:07:46.000 We're regenerating a democratic base, the Democratic Party, the African American community, high school educated folks like the ones I grew up with in Claymont, not far from here.

00:07:56.000 In my old neighborhood, labor, suburban women, veterans, firefighters, union members, and so many more. 1.00

00:08:05.000 He's barely alive, but that might be what voters are looking for in an era where, again, you don't know what's coming around the next bend, and President Trump is not exactly a beacon of stability, and neither is Bernie Sanders.

00:08:14.000 Joe Biden is not a beacon of stability in the sense that he might topple over literally at any time, but You get the feeling that, again, people who are barely not comatose generally do not provide a serious threat to people's feeling of sort of stability.

00:08:29.000 So there was Joe Biden last night trying to reach out to the Bernie Sanders people.

00:08:32.000 Bernie's not going to have any of that, by the way.

00:08:34.000 Bernie did not give a speech last night.

00:08:35.000 When he gives a concession speech, it will likely be laced with all sorts of references to how the Democratic Party stepped in and stopped him.

00:08:43.000 And again, none of this is to say that the future of the Democratic Party is bright here.

00:08:46.000 Even if Joe Biden were to win, the future of the Democratic Party is with the insane, radical, progressive agenda of Bernie Sanders.

00:08:53.000 The age gaps in the Michigan exit polls are absolutely astonishing.

00:08:58.000 This is according to the New York Times.

00:09:00.000 If you were 18 to 24, which only represented 7% of voters because young people do not vote.

00:09:05.000 It's a puzzle that Bernie never was able to solve because no one has ever been able to solve young voters not voting.

00:09:10.000 Young voters are very loud. 0.73

00:09:11.000 They go to rallies.

00:09:13.000 Those people vote.

00:09:14.000 Everybody else doesn't vote.

00:09:15.000 This is one of the things people don't understand about campus politics.

00:09:17.000 I get asked about campus politics a lot and people say, well, what do college students think?

00:09:21.000 I said, well, 90% of them don't, at least not about politics.

00:09:25.000 The 10% that do are incredibly loud.

00:09:27.000 They get outsized attention.

00:09:28.000 Most college students are just there to party and drink and screw and get out of there with a degree.

00:09:33.000 That's true for most young people in general.

00:09:36.000 And so the idea that they're sitting around deeply ensconced in the Bernie movement is just not true.

00:09:40.000 But the ones who are involved are very, very radical.

00:09:43.000 83% of voters in Michigan Who were between the ages of 18 and 24 voted for Bernie.

00:09:50.000 83 to 16.

00:09:51.000 If you're between the ages of 25 and 29, 81% of those voters in Michigan voted for Bernie Sanders.

00:09:57.000 If you were between 30 and 39, 62% of those voters voted for Bernie Sanders, compared to just 34 who voted for Joe Biden.

00:10:05.000 If you're between 40 and 49, Bernie still won a slight majority, 51 to 45 of those voters.

00:10:10.000 It's among the older demographics, everybody over the age of 50, that Biden just cleaned up. 0.99

00:10:15.000 Between 50 and 64, he won 66% of the vote.

00:10:18.000 Between 65 and death, he won 73% of the vote.

00:10:21.000 So that means that Biden is still relying on this older coalition of voters.

00:10:25.000 That doesn't mean that He's gonna lose the election because younger voters don't like him.

00:10:29.000 It does mean that the future of the Democratic Party looks a lot more like Bernie Sanders and a lot less like Joe Biden.

00:10:36.000 Now, with that said, there was a suburban surge for Joe Biden.

00:10:40.000 According to the Washington Post, Biden's victory in Michigan was powered by landslide margins in the Detroit suburbs, places where turnout had been low in the 2016 primary.

00:10:47.000 The same patterns played out in other states voting on Tuesday.

00:10:50.000 The suburbs of cities like St.

00:10:51.000 Louis, Kansas City, Memphis delivered big margins for Biden, bigger turnout than four years ago.

00:10:55.000 DeSoto County, which contains the Mississippi-based suburbs of Memphis, was one of the first areas to report results.

00:11:00.000 Four years ago, just 7,600 votes were cast for all candidates in the Democratic Party.

00:11:04.000 Hillary won 5,600 votes.

00:11:06.000 In 2008, the county cast slightly more than 10,000 votes.

00:11:09.000 In Tuesday's primary, DeSoto cast 11,000 votes.

00:11:11.000 Biden won 8,600 of them.

00:11:14.000 That tracks with what happened in the state's 2018 and 2019 elections, when even as Democrats lost statewide races, they gained ground in suburbs.

00:11:21.000 And that pattern was even more stark in Missouri.

00:11:23.000 It was a swing state just 10 years ago, but now it has become a very red state.

00:11:27.000 Turnout may be flat from 2016, but in Clay County, which is the suburbs north of Kansas City, 29,000 votes were cast with one precinct left to report.

00:11:35.000 Four years ago, only 23,000 votes were cast in the county.

00:11:38.000 From then to now, Sanders lost ground, winning 12,500 votes in that contest with Clinton.

00:11:42.000 He came in below 11,000 votes on Tuesday, an easy win for Joe Biden.

00:11:48.000 The bottom line is that moderate suburbanites are coming out in droves.

00:11:51.000 Now, this may mean, this may mean bad news for President Trump.

00:11:55.000 This is an area where President Trump is particularly weak.

00:11:58.000 Moderate suburbanites are the area that Trump really needs to make up some ground, right?

00:12:03.000 It's the area where he sort of, basically the trade he made with Mitt Romney was Mitt Romney won a lot of these suburban people.

00:12:09.000 He won a lot of suburban white women. 1.00

00:12:11.000 He won a lot of college educated white men.

00:12:13.000 Okay, and then Donald Trump traded a lot of that for more rural support.

00:12:18.000 Well, what Trump really should have done is built on that rural support and then move back into the suburbs.

00:12:21.000 The problem is that it is exactly Trump's persona that is off-putting to a lot of suburban women, particularly.

00:12:26.000 And Joe Biden, again, is a sort of comfort food for a lot of these folks.

00:12:31.000 So that's a problem for President Trump.

00:12:33.000 But the bigger problem for Joe Biden right now is how does he unify the party?

00:12:36.000 Because Bernie is not going to step back inside the party.

00:12:38.000 Remember, Bernie is not a party animal.

00:12:40.000 Bernie does not really belong in the Democratic Party.

00:12:42.000 He has spent his entire life doing nothing and being a gadfly.

00:12:45.000 That's been his entire life.

00:12:47.000 Now, the Democratic Party has picked and chosen from Bernie's agenda, right?

00:12:50.000 They've picked from the Bernie tree, but that does not mean that Bernie is in good standing with the Democratic Party or anything like that.

00:12:55.000 So bringing him back into the fold, Hillary was not able to bring Bernie back into the fold in 2016 after Bernie appeared to be the de facto Democratic nominee just three weeks ago. 0.99

00:13:05.000 Him being rejected by an overwhelming number of big-name Democratic donors, as well as a lot of big-name Democratic politicians and the DNC.

00:13:14.000 You could see the Bernie bros just saying, listen, we'll stay home.

00:13:17.000 We don't care.

00:13:17.000 As much as Joe Biden is trying to reach out to the Bernie bros, a lot of Bernie bros are not going to be into this.

00:13:23.000 And despite the attempts by the Pod Save America crowd to say we gotta rally to beat Trump, I am not certain, I really am not certain that there are a lot of Bernie Sanders voters who hate Trump more than they hate the Democratic Party establishment.

00:13:35.000 I think there may be a lot of Bernie voters who hate the Democratic establishment more and want to punish the Democratic establishment for nominating Biden and so simply just don't go to vote.

00:13:45.000 By the way, the same thing would have happened inside the Republican Party if Trump had not been given the nomination at the convention.

00:13:50.000 If Trump had ended up being skunked at the very last minute by a coalition, there's a good shot that a lot of those Trump voters would have just said, listen, we're not going to show up.

00:13:57.000 Especially if it had been in favor of Jeb.

00:14:00.000 If it had been in favor of somebody who is long considered sort of the next in line, there would have been a lot of Republican voters who would have walked away from the Republican Party.

00:14:08.000 The same thing could be in the offing.

00:14:10.000 And the Democrats are making a fairly large scale mistake If they continue to let Bernie Sanders debate Biden, he's just going to damage Biden.

00:14:22.000 If they don't, then Bernie's going to claim that everything is wrong and that everything is corrupt and that everything is foul, and then he's going to drive his supporters away from the Democratic Party.

00:14:30.000 So it's a bit of a catch-22 for the Democrats.

00:14:32.000 They either have to bet that most Bernie voters are going to come around, Whatever Bernie says, or they have to bet that if they give Bernie another shot, like allow him a bunch of debates, then Bernie will somehow become a team player at the last moment.

00:14:45.000 Neither one of those are particularly good bets.

00:14:47.000 Again, this is one of the problems with humoring the alligator until he eats you last.

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00:16:11.000 Okay, so as I say, the battle over what to do with Bernie now is breaking out into the open in the Democratic Party.

00:16:17.000 James Carville, who...

00:16:19.000 Who's honestly his input into the Democratic primaries was pretty invaluable for helping boost Joe Biden.

00:16:24.000 He kept saying, like, if we nominate Bernie, we're gonna get slaughtered here, guys.

00:16:27.000 And people took him fairly seriously. 0.52

00:16:28.000 Well, now James Carville is saying, let's shut this puppy down.

00:16:31.000 This thing is over.

00:16:31.000 Why are we allowing Bernie on stage some more?

00:16:34.000 We gotta acknowledge that he created a movement.

00:16:36.000 He did some truly remarkable things in American politics.

00:16:40.000 And certainly Vice President Biden, we've got to talk to him and discuss this.

00:16:44.000 But we also, we can't diss these Democratic voters who are just coming out in every corner of this country saying, let's get on with this thing.

00:16:53.000 Now, our mission as a party is to defeat Donald Trump.

00:16:56.000 According to FiveThirtyEight, there's a 99 to 1 chance.

00:17:03.000 Okay, so he's saying no more debates, no more primaries.

00:17:14.000 Let's just be done with this thing.

00:17:16.000 It's done.

00:17:16.000 We are finished.

00:17:17.000 And he is right, statistically speaking.

00:17:19.000 I mean, Carville can read the data as well as anybody can.

00:17:22.000 Bernie's done.

00:17:23.000 Bernie is toast. 0.98

00:17:24.000 Bernie is a shriveled piece of red debris. 0.93

00:17:27.000 I mean, he's finished. 0.95

00:17:28.000 He's going back to his pudding cups.

00:17:30.000 He's going back to his lighthouse.

00:17:31.000 And that's it.

00:17:32.000 Okay, but that does not mean that he can't make trouble from the outside.

00:17:35.000 James Clarberin trying to do the same thing.

00:17:37.000 Again, this does give the sense inside the Democratic Party that the Democratic Party elite, that the heads of the Democratic Party are trying to shut down Bernie, which of course is exactly the Exactly the message that Bernie wishes to promote.

00:17:48.000 I mean, what Bernie would love more than anything else is to spend the next two months fulminating about how the Democratic Party shut the door on him the minute that they got the opportunity.

00:17:55.000 They barely opened the door wide enough to let him through, and then the minute he stuck his foot in, they proceeded to cut off his toes.

00:18:01.000 Old mythical Cinderella style.

00:18:03.000 By the way, little known facts about the Cinderella myth.

00:18:04.000 Originally, the stepsisters cut off their toes to try and fit their feet inside the glass slippers. 0.90

00:18:09.000 Weird things you didn't know.

00:18:10.000 In any case, James Clyburn, who is the chief sponsor of Joe Biden's victory in South Carolina, his late stage endorsement was very important to Biden.

00:18:17.000 Clyburn said there shouldn't be any more debates.

00:18:18.000 We're done here.

00:18:22.000 I think we will be at a point where Joe Biden will be the prohibitive nominee of the party.

00:18:30.000 And I think the DNC, the Democratic National Committee, should then step in, make an assessment and determine whether or not they ought to have Any more debates?

00:18:41.000 So again, this does look like the Biden team attempting to shut down all future possibilities for Bernie Sanders, for Bernie re-entering the debate, which could theoretically be the worst move.

00:18:51.000 Van Jones on CNN, he was saying, listen, this is a mistake.

00:18:54.000 Biden needs to reach out to Bernie somehow. 0.97

00:18:56.000 Now, the problem is there isn't a great way to reach out for the craggy, old, annoying communist.

00:19:03.000 What exactly do you do to bring that guy inside the tent?

00:19:05.000 Here's Van Jones saying that Biden needs to do more.

00:19:07.000 But again, how do you negotiate with a political militant like Bernie Sanders?

00:19:11.000 They thought that they were going to be able to surround a divided establishment with their movement, crush that divided establishment, and move forward.

00:19:18.000 Instead, the establishment united and stopped them.

00:19:21.000 Now what do you do?

00:19:23.000 Last time Bernie Sanders got beaten, there was an assumption that all his people were just going to fall in line and vote against Trump, and there was not enough care for the concern and the pain of his base.

00:19:35.000 I think tonight there's going to be a lot of crowing, a lot of relief on the part of the establishment, but keep it temperate.

00:19:40.000 And turn, turn to those people and say, we want to be your champion.

00:19:44.000 If you don't do that, you're going to have a period victory.

00:19:47.000 Okay, so Joe Biden did do that.

00:19:49.000 I don't think that it's going to be enough.

00:19:50.000 I mean, have you ever talked to people who are like big Bernie Sanders fans?

00:19:53.000 They despise the Democratic establishment.

00:19:55.000 They despise Joe Biden.

00:19:57.000 I mean, they hated Pete Buttigieg.

00:19:58.000 They thought that Buttigieg was too much of a sellout.

00:20:00.000 What do you think they think of Joe Biden, an 80 year old Lifelong Democrat whose great accomplishments have included naming train stations after himself on Amtrak.

00:20:09.000 What do you think that they think about that guy?

00:20:11.000 What do you think they think about the guy who was taking institutional democratic money?

00:20:14.000 What do you think they think about a guy?

00:20:16.000 Every relative of whose has actually been involved in some or other form of corruption.

00:20:22.000 I don't think those people come back inside the tent.

00:20:24.000 And that is the largest institutional obstacle to Joe Biden becoming president of the United States.

00:20:29.000 So that is where things stand.

00:20:31.000 Now, again, Joe Biden's basic pitch, and he was throwing it out there yesterday, is that Joe Biden was going to be a solidifying figure in American politics.

00:20:40.000 That has been his pitch.

00:20:41.000 There's a problem with that, too, which is that Joe Biden is not himself particularly solid.

00:20:45.000 As I say, the fact that he is nearly comatose is probably his best asset.

00:20:48.000 I've been saying this really since he declared that the fact that he's almost a dead person, almost literally, that that is actually a good thing for him because it makes people feel that he is not threatening to them.

00:20:58.000 He's not going to leap off that deathbed and suddenly club you over the head with Medicare for All.

00:21:02.000 That's not something that Joe Biden is capable of doing.

00:21:04.000 But in a campaign, the notion that he is some sort of real return to grace That is an overstatement by the media, and I think people are going to find that out really quickly.

00:21:14.000 Donald Trump does have a few lines of attack on Joe Biden that he has yet to lose.

00:21:18.000 One is obviously the corruption.

00:21:19.000 He did go after Joe Biden on the Hunter Biden stuff.

00:21:22.000 There was a report yesterday that James Biden, who is Joe's brother, is now in trouble over basically going to some sort of health firm and suggesting to them that his brother was going to sponsor government regulation that would help the company.

00:21:33.000 And they proceeded to build the firm of hundreds of thousands of dollars.

00:21:36.000 We know that some of his other brothers have been involved in some stuff like this.

00:21:39.000 I think it was Frank who was involved in some corrupt activity or alleged corrupt activity down in Florida.

00:21:44.000 So that is one line of attack that you can expect from President Trump.

00:21:47.000 Obviously, you're going to see President Trump hit Sleepy Joe for being, again, on the verge of senility.

00:21:53.000 But the third line of attack is that Joe Biden isn't himself that stable.

00:21:57.000 So Joe Biden has been perceived as a more stable quantity than Donald Trump, because pretty much everybody is perceived as a more stable quantity than Donald Trump.

00:22:06.000 But when Joe Biden makes the pitch that he is sort of the savior of American grace, it's a weird pitch.

00:22:11.000 It's a very weird pitch.

00:22:12.000 We're going to get to that in just one second.

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00:24:03.000 All righty.

00:24:03.000 So as I say, Joe Biden's final pitch really is that he is a return to character that's This is what he's been, this was his opening ad, it is now his closing ad.

00:24:10.000 Here is Joe Biden making that pitch last night.

00:24:13.000 Everything that has made America, America is truly at stake.

00:24:20.000 I believe this nation can overcome four years of Donald Trump, but given eight, four more years, he'll forever and fundamentally change the very character of this nation.

00:24:32.000 We can't let that happen.

00:24:35.000 But winning means uniting America.

00:24:39.000 Not sowing more division and anger.

00:24:42.000 Okay, so this is his pitch.

00:24:43.000 There's only one problem.

00:24:44.000 Joe Biden is not a good messenger for this pitch.

00:24:46.000 He is not a good messenger for this pitch.

00:24:49.000 Like, yesterday, he was in Michigan, he was campaigning, and a bunch of hardhats in Michigan walk up to him and start asking about his gun policy.

00:24:56.000 Now, Joe Biden is a gun grabber.

00:24:58.000 I mean, we have proof that he's a gun grabber. 1.00

00:25:00.000 Joe Biden, in this exchange, proceeds to threaten to kick somebody's ass, threatens to take it outside, Suggests that somebody's being a horse's ass. 1.00

00:25:08.000 And then also lies about his gun record. 0.99

00:25:11.000 Now, I know there are a lot of people on the right who are like, well, you know, how could Joe Biden act like this?

00:25:14.000 OK, guys, let's be real.

00:25:15.000 Donald Trump is president.

00:25:16.000 OK, so can we spare me with the pearl clutching?

00:25:19.000 The pearl clutching isn't the thing.

00:25:20.000 The thing is that Biden lies about his record consistently, but also it does undercut Joe Biden's I am a statesman routine when he is not, in fact, all that statesman like.

00:25:28.000 He has been kind of a slightly kooky uncle figure.

00:25:31.000 For quite a while.

00:25:32.000 Here is Joe Biden being a slightly kooky uncle figure who gets drunk at the family picnic and then threatens to fight you after you say that the Yankees are overrated this year.

00:25:39.000 You are actually trying to administer second.

00:25:42.000 Right.

00:25:43.000 You're fourth.

00:25:44.000 All right.

00:25:46.000 Sush.

00:25:47.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:25:49.000 I take the AR, the AR-14s and whatnot.

00:25:52.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:25:52.000 Hey, let's keep moving.

00:25:54.000 There's a lot of guys.

00:25:55.000 A lot of guys wanted this.

00:25:57.000 I'm not working.

00:25:58.000 Thank you so much.

00:25:58.000 Give me a break, man.

00:26:00.000 Thank you so much.

00:26:01.000 Don't be such a worry.

00:26:02.000 Are machine guns really legal?

00:26:04.000 I can't bet.

00:26:05.000 That's right.

00:26:05.000 The SLR AR-15s are legal.

00:26:07.000 How is that a machine gun?

00:26:08.000 No, it's not.

00:26:09.000 Yeah, do you need a hundred rounds?

00:26:11.000 Do you need a hundred rounds?

00:26:14.000 Okay, so Joe Biden is yelling things that don't even make sense.

00:26:16.000 The guy's saying, um, an AR-15 is not a machine gun.

00:26:19.000 And Joe Biden's like, yes it is, yes it is.

00:26:21.000 And the guy's like, well, no it's not.

00:26:22.000 He's like, do you need a hundred rounds?

00:26:23.000 Completely different argument.

00:26:25.000 Okay, then he says you don't need an AR-14, which is not a gun. 0.99

00:26:28.000 And then he suggests, don't be a horse's ass, an AR is a machine gun. 0.99

00:26:32.000 I'm not working for you. 1.00

00:26:33.000 You're full of bleep. 0.96

00:26:35.000 He tells the guy to shush.

00:26:36.000 That's your model of stability, Democrats?

00:26:38.000 Like, really?

00:26:39.000 That's the guy who is your model of stability?

00:26:40.000 Also, it happens to be that he's lying about his own record on guns.

00:26:43.000 The guy comes forward and he says, you're going to grab our guns.

00:26:45.000 And Biden's like, I would never grab your guns.

00:26:46.000 I love the Second Amendment.

00:26:47.000 Okay, let's just remember Joe Biden five minutes ago suggesting he was going to put full-on, full-tilt gun grabber Beto O'Rourke in charge of his national gun policy.

00:26:55.000 I want to make something clear.

00:26:58.000 I'm going to guarantee you this is not the last year's seat of this guy.

00:27:04.000 You're going to take care of the gun problem with me.

00:27:07.000 You're going to be the one who leads this effort.

00:27:09.000 I'm counting on you.

00:27:10.000 I'm counting on you.

00:27:12.000 OK, that was five minutes ago.

00:27:13.000 Also, Joe Biden was straight up asked whether he would take people's guns. 1.00

00:27:17.000 And his answer was, bingo, malarkey, blackjack and stupid. 1.00

00:27:21.000 To gun owners out there who say, well, a Biden administration means they're going to come for my guns. 1.00

00:27:26.000 Bingo!

00:27:27.000 You're right if you have an assault weapon.

00:27:29.000 The fact of the matter is they should be illegal, period.

00:27:32.000 Look, the Second Amendment doesn't say you can't restrict the kinds of weapons people can own.

00:27:37.000 Bingo bongo, Jack.

00:27:39.000 Bingo bombo, malarkey McBlackjack. 0.98

00:27:42.000 This is your captain of stability and also a person who is indeed lying about his own record, which is something that Biden has done routinely.

00:27:49.000 I don't know whether he actually knows he's lying or whether he just thinks he's telling the truth.

00:27:52.000 I really don't know, which is a great quality in a politician, seriously, when they don't even know whether they're lying.

00:27:57.000 It's a fantastic quality.

00:27:58.000 I remember when Joe Biden was debating Paul Ryan in the vice presidential debate back in 2012.

00:28:02.000 And Joe Biden just said, in the middle of the debate, that Lebanon had kicked Iran out of the country.

00:28:09.000 And I just remember thinking, is that a thing that happened?

00:28:11.000 Like, I don't remember any of that happening.

00:28:14.000 And Ryan, I think, also had the reaction like, I'm pretty sure that didn't happen, but I can't call him on it because maybe I'm wrong.

00:28:19.000 But the fact is that Joe Biden does have an unusual facility to say things that are not true with a straight face, mainly because I'm not sure that he knows they're not true.

00:28:27.000 But bottom line is that Joe Biden, if the image of him is a font of rationality and foundational stability in a time of volatility, I'm not sure this is your guy. 0.99

00:28:39.000 I mean, five minutes ago, he was saying to people, he was calling people fat on the campaign trail, calling him a damn liar. 0.98

00:28:44.000 This was like two months ago, two months ago. 0.99

00:28:47.000 You're selling access to the president just like this. 1.00

00:28:50.000 So you're a damn liar, man. 1.00

00:28:53.000 That's not true. 1.00

00:28:54.000 And no one has ever said that.

00:28:55.000 No one has ever done that.

00:28:58.000 You see it on the TV.

00:28:59.000 If you want to check my shape, let's do push-ups together, man.

00:29:02.000 Let's run.

00:29:03.000 Let's do whatever you want to do.

00:29:04.000 You said I set up my son to work in an oil company.

00:29:08.000 Isn't that what you said?

00:29:09.000 Get your words straight, Jack.

00:29:12.000 You don't hear that in MSNBC.

00:29:15.000 You did not hear that at all.

00:29:17.000 But you heard.

00:29:17.000 Look, OK, I'm not going to get in an argument with you, man.

00:29:22.000 Well, yeah, you do.

00:29:25.000 But look, look, here's the deal.

00:29:29.000 Look, Fat, look, here's the deal.

00:29:30.000 That's that's the guy who you're running up there as a return to American civility.

00:29:35.000 That guy, as I've said a thousand times, Donald Trump is not a difference in kind.

00:29:40.000 He's just a difference in tenor.

00:29:42.000 That's all.

00:29:43.000 Donald Trump is not radically different from Joe Biden in any appreciable way in terms of his attitudes or in terms of the language he uses.

00:29:50.000 It's just he does more of it.

00:29:51.000 So if Joe Biden is a return to normalcy, then normalcy ain't that great.

00:29:54.000 And I think there are a lot of people who are about to find that out.

00:29:56.000 In a second, we're gonna give you all the coronavirus updates.

00:29:58.000 Continues to be scary.

00:29:59.000 We'll give you all the updates on what is going on with it in just one second.

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00:32:30.000 Well, in coronavirus news, the British health minister and conservative member of parliament, Nadine Dorries, has been diagnosed with coronavirus now.

00:32:43.000 So the Health Minister of Great Britain has coronavirus.

00:32:46.000 Ms.

00:32:46.000 Dorries says she's been self-isolating at home.

00:32:48.000 Labour MP Rachel Maskell said she has been told to do the same as she had met Ms.

00:32:52.000 Dorries.

00:32:52.000 The Department of Health in Britain said Ms.

00:32:53.000 Dorries first showed symptoms on Thursday, the same day she attended an event hosted by the Prime Minister.

00:32:58.000 Right now, UK had a documented total of 382 cases as of yesterday.

00:33:03.000 Six people with the virus have died in the UK, in the United States.

00:33:07.000 The total number of cases now has surpassed 1,000 cases in the United States.

00:33:11.000 We have 29 deaths so far.

00:33:14.000 The clusters are happening on the coast, mainly in Massachusetts, New York, Santa Clara, California, and up in Seattle, Washington.

00:33:22.000 The first known U.S.

00:33:23.000 coronavirus case was announced January 21st in Washington state.

00:33:26.000 The pace of diagnosis has quickened significantly in recent weeks.

00:33:28.000 At the start of the month, 70 cases had been reported in this country, most of them tied to overseas travel.

00:33:33.000 Since then, new cases have been pouring in by the dozens and then by the hundreds.

00:33:37.000 The coronavirus updates are coming fast and furious.

00:33:39.000 The mayor of New York, Bill de Blasio, he said that there are lots of cases coming in, like dozens per day, in New York City.

00:33:45.000 As testing is made available, it is obvious that there are a lot of people who are at least carrying coronavirus without knowing that they are carrying coronavirus.

00:33:53.000 The German public has now been warned that up to 70% of Germans face the possibility of infection.

00:33:58.000 That's according to Angela Merkel.

00:33:59.000 And of course, the top U.S.

00:34:01.000 health official, Dr. Anthony Fauci, he said this is going to get worse.

00:34:05.000 So Dr. Fauci said all hands are basically on deck with this thing.

00:34:08.000 These are really simple.

00:34:10.000 Keeping the workplace safe, keeping the homes safe, keeping the schools safe, and keeping commercial establishments safe.

00:34:18.000 This should be universal for the country.

00:34:20.000 Everyone should be doing that, whether you live in a zone that has community spread or not.

00:34:26.000 When you have community spread, you're obviously going to ratchet up the kinds of mitigations that you have, but at a minimum, This is the minimum that we should be doing.

00:34:36.000 So everybody should say, all hands on deck, this is what we need to do.

00:34:40.000 In non-shocking news, thanks to, again, the up and down of the coronavirus news, the stock market is getting creamed again today.

00:34:46.000 It's just up and down insanely.

00:34:48.000 It was up like 1,000 points yesterday.

00:34:49.000 And then it has dumped again, back down 1,000 points, below 24,000 in early morning trading.

00:34:54.000 Pretty amazing how the stock market is bouncing around like a yo-yo.

00:34:58.000 Now, we're not going to know, honestly, where anything stands until the end of April.

00:35:01.000 Megan McArdle has an interesting column over at the Washington Post.

00:35:04.000 A lot of people, really, like everyone, is looking around going, I don't see a lot of coronavirus out there.

00:35:09.000 We've had a grand total of like 4,000 deaths worldwide.

00:35:12.000 If you look at the flu every year, it kills like 100,000 people worldwide minimum, maybe hundreds of thousands of people worldwide every year.

00:35:18.000 So why are we all so worried about coronavirus?

00:35:20.000 Well, Meghan McArdle has this Statistical thought experiment to remind you that when there's an exponential growth factor, things move really quickly, right?

00:35:28.000 You don't see anything, and then you see everything, right?

00:35:31.000 Let's say that you have a pond with lily pads.

00:35:32.000 This is the example that she gives statistically, and it explains why we're all so worried today.

00:35:36.000 If you have a pond with lily pads, and the lily pads are going to overtake the pond as they grow, and each day, the lily pads double, right?

00:35:43.000 The number of lily pads double.

00:35:44.000 So let's say that day one, it's one, day two, it's two, day three, it's four, right?

00:35:49.000 So it keeps doubling.

00:35:50.000 On the very last day, the lily pads covered the entire pond.

00:35:53.000 The question is, at what point did lily pads cover half the pond?

00:35:57.000 Right, at what point did lily pads cover half the pond?

00:35:59.000 And the answer is, the day before they covered the entire pond, right?

00:36:01.000 Because if they're doubling every day, then that means that half the pond was covered yesterday, and today, boom, suddenly the entire pond is covered.

00:36:07.000 That is how exponential growth works.

00:36:09.000 Okay, that is what people are fearing in terms of coronavirus, is that when you have exponential growth of coronavirus, what you end up with is, no one around me has it, oops, everyone around me has it, right?

00:36:18.000 That is what people, are fearing is that suddenness, that sudden uptick.

00:36:22.000 And this is what is being feared by the Trump former Homeland Security Advisor, Tom Bossert.

00:36:26.000 He says hospitals are basically 10 days away from being creamed.

00:36:30.000 He suggested in an op-ed that we are in trouble in terms of our hospital facilities.

00:36:37.000 He says officials must pull the trigger on aggressive interventions.

00:36:39.000 He said aggressive interventions put off and ease the peak burden on hospitals and other health care infrastructure.

00:36:45.000 And that, of course, is true.

00:36:46.000 As coronavirus swells, then the hospitals need to be prepared.

00:36:50.000 As I already said, Mayor Bill de Blasio has said that things are happening intensely in New York City, and Governor Jay Inslee has now restricted gatherings of more than 250 people in King County, as well as Snohomish and Pierce Counties, which are the biggest counties in Washington State.

00:37:06.000 That means no soccer games.

00:37:08.000 It means no baseball games.

00:37:11.000 It means that basically all major gatherings ought to be canceled, according to Jay Inslee, the governor of Washington State.

00:37:18.000 Dr. Fauci has suggested there be no crowds at NBA games.

00:37:20.000 So basically, if you have tickets for opening day in the United States for baseball, you can fairly bank that that is not going to happen.

00:37:27.000 A lot of colleges are canceling events.

00:37:29.000 I would not be surprised if my college events this semester, for example, are canceled.

00:37:32.000 That would not be a great shock.

00:37:34.000 Again, I think that all of this makes a certain amount of sense.

00:37:38.000 Like, better caution than to have this viral outbreak.

00:37:41.000 You want to reduce the spread and the quickness of the spread to give us time.

00:37:46.000 Right now, we're bargaining for time.

00:37:48.000 We don't know what the death rates are on this thing.

00:37:50.000 We just don't.

00:37:51.000 And what that means is that every attempt to slow the spread of the virus buys a day for people to develop vaccines that are going to be more effective in slowing or stopping the spread of the virus so it becomes just another seasonal problem instead of becoming an overwhelming threat to Western populations.

00:38:07.000 So it is in this light that it is important to recognize that when the federal government fails along these lines, it can be absolutely disastrous.

00:38:16.000 There's a piece from the New York Times that is just devastating, talking about how the federal government did in fact blow the month that President Trump bought.

00:38:23.000 So President Trump said very early on, we are shutting down travel from China.

00:38:26.000 And a lot of people on the left are like, oh, this is racist.

00:38:28.000 Oh, this is terrible.

00:38:28.000 Same people who are saying Wuhan virus.

00:38:30.000 Wuhan virus is racist.

00:38:32.000 You can't say Wuhan virus.

00:38:33.000 So Trump said, no, we're shutting down travel.

00:38:35.000 That was a very good thing.

00:38:36.000 It was a very smart thing.

00:38:37.000 It was the right thing to do.

00:38:39.000 The problem is that only buys you time because it turns out that some people are going to get in and then you got a problem.

00:38:44.000 So what did the federal government do with the month that President Trump bought them by shutting down travel from Wuhan?

00:38:50.000 The answer is basically nothing.

00:38:52.000 According to Dr. Helen Chu, an infectious disease expert in Seattle, she knew the United States did not have much time.

00:38:57.000 In late January, the first confirmed American case of coronavirus had landed in her area.

00:39:01.000 Critical questions needed answers.

00:39:03.000 Had the man infected anyone else, according to the New York Times?

00:39:05.000 Was the deadly virus already lurking in other communities and spreading?

00:39:08.000 As luck would have it, Dr. Chu had a way to monitor the region.

00:39:11.000 For months, as part of a research project into the flu, she and a team of researchers had been collecting nasal swabs from residents experiencing symptoms throughout the Puget Sound region.

00:39:20.000 To repurpose the test for monitoring coronavirus, they would need the support of state and federal officials.

00:39:24.000 But nearly everywhere Dr. Chu turned, officials repeatedly rejected the idea, interviews and emails show, even as weeks crawled by and outbreaks emerged in countries outside of China where the infection began.

00:39:33.000 By February 25th, Dr. Chu and her colleagues could not bear to wait any longer.

00:39:37.000 They began performing coronavirus tests without government approval.

00:39:40.000 What came back confirmed their worst fear.

00:39:41.000 They quickly had a positive test from a local teenager with no recent travel history.

00:39:45.000 The coronavirus had already established itself on American soil without anybody realizing it.

00:39:50.000 Dr. Chu recalled thinking, it must have been here this entire time.

00:39:52.000 It's just everywhere already.

00:39:53.000 In fact, officials would later discover through testing the virus had already contributed to the deaths of two people.

00:39:58.000 It would go on to kill 20 more in the Seattle region over the following days.

00:40:02.000 Federal and state officials said the flu study could not be repurposed because it didn't have explicit permission from research subjects.

00:40:08.000 The labs were also not certified for clinical work.

00:40:10.000 While acknowledging the ethical questions, Dr. Chu and others argued there should be more flexibility in an emergency during which so many lives could be lost.

00:40:17.000 This is correct.

00:40:17.000 I mean, like, if you give permission for somebody to do a nasal swab for flu, and then that is repurposed to nasal swab for coronavirus, I honestly fail to see how any reasonable person would consider that a violation of privacy.

00:40:29.000 Like, oh, nobody must know that I had coronavirus.

00:40:31.000 Like, they're not going to release your specific coronavirus test.

00:40:34.000 It just allows the state to do something.

00:40:36.000 On Monday night, state regulators told them to stop testing altogether.

00:40:40.000 The failure to tap into the flu study detailed here for the first time was just one in a series of mischances by the federal government to ensure more widespread testing during the early days of the outbreak when containment would have been easier.

00:40:50.000 Instead, local officials across the country were left to work in the dark as the crisis grew undetected and exponentially.

00:40:56.000 Do I think this is Trump's fault?

00:40:57.000 No, I don't.

00:40:57.000 I don't think Trump is monitoring local level tests.

00:41:00.000 I think this is the fault of a massive regulatory bureaucracy that prevents people from doing reasonable things.

00:41:05.000 It turns out that the federal government, while it is well placed to issue broad national guidelines, is not well placed to deal with local testing that has to be done.

00:41:15.000 It turns out that local communities may be the fastest to react to this sort of thing.

00:41:19.000 Voluntary shutdowns right now are happening across the country with regard to major public events.

00:41:24.000 And those are happening on the local and state level without the federal government even doing anything.

00:41:28.000 It turns out that people who see federalism as the obstacle to this sort of thing, they're doing it wrong.

00:41:32.000 Local and state officials are more answerable to local populations and are in fact more likely to request that people do responsible things.

00:41:38.000 I mean, the fact is that Purim was yesterday in the Jewish community.

00:41:43.000 Basically, every Purim Seudah that I heard of in my area, meaning every big Purim meal with big gatherings, lots of kids, those were basically shut down voluntarily without any guidance from the federal, state, or local officials. 0.91

00:41:54.000 So the notion that the federal government needs to be running this thing in extraordinarily top-down fashion, the federal government needs to be coordinating all the officials, letting them know sort of the minimum of what they expect, but standing in the way of local officials doing what they need to do to tamp this thing down is a completely different thing, and that is a testament to the stupidity of bureaucracy generally.

00:42:13.000 It is just a very, very Light shadow of what happened in China in the very early stages where China was literally imprisoning people talking about this stuff. 0.97

00:42:21.000 When you have the CDC saying to people, you can't repurpose that flu testing kit in order to test for coronavirus because you may violate federal protocols, just demonstrates the idiocy of having a bureaucracy this large and this ridiculous. 0.92

00:42:32.000 Doesn't mean we don't need federal staffers, we do. 0.93

00:42:34.000 But having a bureaucratic thicket like this that is unable, impenetrable, that is a big mistake.

00:42:40.000 Dr. Robert Redfield, Director of the CDC said in an interview on Friday that acting quickly was critical for combating an outbreak.

00:42:47.000 He said time matters.

00:42:48.000 He said there's still time to beat back coronavirus in the United States.

00:42:50.000 He said it's going to take rigorous, aggressive public health, what I like to say, block and tackle, block and tackle.

00:42:55.000 It means if you find a new case, you isolate it.

00:42:57.000 But the question is how exactly are you going to isolate it when testing kits are not available widely?

00:43:03.000 Only about 8,500 specimens or nose swabs have been taken at all since the beginning of the outbreak.

00:43:09.000 A figure that is almost certainly larger than the number of people tested since one person can have multiple swabs.

00:43:14.000 By comparison, South Korea, which discovered its first test case around the same time as the U.S., has reported having the capacity to test 10,000 people a day since late February.

00:43:23.000 That is indeed a failure of the federal government.

00:43:25.000 That does not mean, again, that it's Trump's fault.

00:43:27.000 It does mean that the response here by the CDC was absolutely insufficient in the early days.

00:43:33.000 The agency released criteria for deciding which individuals should be tested for the virus.

00:43:38.000 At first, they said only those who had a fever and respiratory issues and had traveled from the outbreak's origin in Wuhan.

00:43:43.000 The criteria were so strict that a sick man in Seattle who had visited Wuhan did not even meet it.

00:43:48.000 Still, worried state health officials pushed him to get checked, and finally the CDC agreed, and then his results came back positive.

00:43:54.000 Around this time, the Washington State Department of Health began discussions with the Seattle Flu Study.

00:43:58.000 There was a hitch.

00:43:59.000 The flu project primarily used research labs, not clinical ones.

00:44:02.000 Its coronavirus test was not approved by the FDA.

00:44:04.000 So the group was not certified to provide test results to anyone outside their own investigators.

00:44:09.000 Scott McDowell, a former CDC official, current deputy director at the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, asked for help from leaders of the CDC's coronavirus response.

00:44:16.000 Later, Dr. Lindquist, the state epidemiologist in Washington, wrote an email to Dr. Alicia Fry, the chief of the CDC's Epidemiology and Prevention Branch, requesting the study be used to test for coronavirus.

00:44:27.000 CDC repeatedly said, not possible.

00:44:30.000 They said you have to check with the FDA.

00:44:31.000 So instead, CDC kicked it over to the FDA.

00:44:33.000 The FDA could not offer the approval because the lab was not certified, and so none of the tests actually get done.

00:44:39.000 The answer to this is obviously Medicare for All and a massive federal bureaucracy running this thing from top down.

00:44:44.000 Obviously, that is the answer to all of this.

00:44:46.000 That was an argument, by the way, you heard in the immediate aftermath of the outbreak, was that we need more federal interventionism.

00:44:52.000 Okay, two things can be true at once.

00:44:53.000 You need more effective federal intervention, and also, if you are talking about layers upon layers of bureaucracy making things better, wrongo.

00:44:59.000 Wrongo.

00:45:02.000 So, this is where things stand at current.

00:45:05.000 This sort of uncertainty means that it's going to set us back a while.

00:45:09.000 It means that we are not gonna have clear information on exactly the extent of coronavirus.

00:45:13.000 And again, we are starting to see isolated cases.

00:45:15.000 It does affect mainly elderly people.

00:45:18.000 The nursing home industry is basically advised, if you have a parent in a nursing home, do not go visit them right now.

00:45:23.000 Not because they're going to infect you, but because you might unknowingly infect them, and then it'll run like wildfire throughout the entire nursing home.

00:45:28.000 That's what happened in Kirkland, Washington.

00:45:31.000 It's also impacting small clusters of younger, more healthy people.

00:45:38.000 There was a man named Mark Tebalt, who was one of the first Americans diagnosed with the novel coronavirus.

00:45:42.000 And apparently, he ended up in the ICU at Providence Hospital, fighting the illness that attacked his lungs.

00:45:48.000 He says, I was one inch from death, no doubt about it.

00:45:50.000 Roughly 80% of COVID-19 cases tend to be mild to moderate.

00:45:53.000 More than 62,000 people globally have recovered.

00:45:56.000 Older people, those with underlying health conditions, are at a higher risk.

00:45:59.000 This guy had asthma.

00:46:00.000 That is his only underlying health condition.

00:46:03.000 With that said, you know, we just don't know where this thing is going at this point.

00:46:06.000 And that's why caution is necessary.

00:46:09.000 It's good that the Bernie and Biden campaigns canceled their rallies.

00:46:13.000 That is a smart thing to do.

00:46:15.000 Also, the attempts to push bailouts at this point.

00:46:19.000 The kind of bailouts that are being talked about.

00:46:20.000 The federal government has never seen an opportunity for a bailout it didn't take, but the bailouts they're talking about are largely going to be ineffective.

00:46:26.000 Right now, we are in a watch and wait time when everybody needs to exercise caution.

00:46:31.000 We should be using social distancing.

00:46:32.000 If you don't have to go to a large gathering, you probably should not go to a large gathering.

00:46:36.000 At least for a couple of weeks.

00:46:37.000 Now, this is the important thing to remember in all of this.

00:46:39.000 There is a timeline here.

00:46:40.000 This is not indefinite.

00:46:41.000 We're not talking about a year from now.

00:46:42.000 You're not going to be able to go to a baseball game or a basketball game.

00:46:44.000 Three months from now, you're probably fine to go to a baseball game or a basketball game.

00:46:48.000 Trying to tamp this thing down within three months of its outbreak.

00:46:51.000 They've now seen declining diagnoses.

00:46:53.000 Same thing in South Korea.

00:46:54.000 But the faster we take measures to protect ourselves, the faster this thing is going to peter out.

00:47:00.000 That would be the goal here.

00:47:02.000 So that's important.

00:47:02.000 So Netflix and chill might be the answer to some of our problems here.

00:47:06.000 Subscribe to the Daily Wire and watch all the old episodes is basically one of the answers here.

00:47:09.000 Alrighty, time for a thing I like and then a couple of things that I hate.

00:47:13.000 So things that I like today.

00:47:15.000 I myself have been reading science fiction late into the evenings.

00:47:17.000 This is because when you have a small child who's crying throughout the night, what exactly are you going to do when you are the husband?

00:47:22.000 And my wife is busy.

00:47:24.000 And she can feed the child.

00:47:25.000 I cannot.

00:47:25.000 So this means I just keep her company and I read sci-fi.

00:47:27.000 So I've been reading Isaac Asimov's foundation novels.

00:47:30.000 They are fantastic.

00:47:31.000 Asimov's foundation novels really sort of change the sci-fi world.

00:47:36.000 They do illustrate the difference between sci-fi and fantasy.

00:47:38.000 The basic difference between sci-fi and fantasy, actually Asimov, there's a really kind of cool short story filled little sci-fi magazine that comes out every couple of months with major writers writing for it.

00:47:49.000 It's called Asimov.

00:47:50.000 And there's an essay at the beginning of last month's Asimov magazine talking about the difference between sci-fi and fantasy, because sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.

00:47:56.000 And the basic difference is that there are predictable rules in the sci-fi world that are not broken by Deus Ex Machina.

00:48:02.000 Well, that is Asimov's universes, right?

00:48:05.000 Asimov's universes are filled with these sort of predictable rules.

00:48:07.000 You establish the rules, and then you live by the rules.

00:48:09.000 He's a really creative thinker.

00:48:11.000 The Foundation novels are, of course, classics of the genre, and the original Foundation novel is just fantastic.

00:48:16.000 I'm not gonna spoil it for you.

00:48:17.000 If you've never read it, you should go check it out.

00:48:19.000 It is appropriate for all ages, effectively.

00:48:21.000 It is great.

00:48:22.000 Isaac Asimov's The Foundation novels, and you start with Foundation, then you move on to Second Foundation, there's Foundation and Empire, and there are a bunch of them, but the first three, particularly, Are pretty good.

00:48:22.000 Go check it out.

00:48:31.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.

00:48:38.000 So, the person hardest hit by Bernie Sanders falling flat on his face in the primaries last night was the irrepressible AOC. 0.71

00:48:46.000 So AOC went on her Instagram and lamented Bernie Sanders' loss last night.

00:48:51.000 She is more conciliatory with the Democratic Party infrastructure than many people thought she would be.

00:48:55.000 I'm not particularly shocked by that.

00:48:57.000 AOC does not want to be alienated from all the halls of power.

00:48:59.000 She's been smart enough to sort of push until she met resistance from Nancy Pelosi and then back off.

00:49:04.000 This led David Axelrod to label AOC a pragmatic figure inside the Democratic Party, which is true as far as it goes. 0.99

00:49:11.000 The problem is that AOC's pragmatism is really about the lack of pragmatism by the Democratic Party.

00:49:16.000 The Democratic Party is apparently totally willing to go along with socialism if they have to.

00:49:21.000 And they've really ceded far too much ground to Bernie.

00:49:24.000 It's gonna come back to bite them.

00:49:25.000 They ceded far too much ground to AOC.

00:49:27.000 So yeah, she looks pragmatic in the sense that she is not running screaming away from the Democratic Party.

00:49:31.000 The problem for the Democrats is they should be running screaming away from AOC.

00:49:34.000 Here's Axelrod labeling her pragmatic, which really is to suggest the Democratic Party is itself not pragmatic.

00:49:39.000 Let me suggest that I think that one person who may be important in this process is AOC.

00:49:48.000 She has emerged as a really important figure among these young Americans who are yearning for real serious solutions to these problems and yet she's shown herself to be a very pragmatic yet principled figure.

00:50:04.000 Okay, now here's the problem.

00:50:06.000 The minute that she actually comes to grips with Joe Biden, the minute she starts campaigning for Joe Biden, if Bernie sits this one out, then she becomes the outlier.

00:50:14.000 Bernie is still the leader of this movement, not AOC.

00:50:16.000 AOC may drive crowds, but she does not have a coherent constituency in the same way that Bernie Sanders does. 0.96

00:50:22.000 AOC last night, she got on that Instagram and she was lamenting about it.

00:50:25.000 She said, there's no sugarcoating it, it's a tough night.

00:50:28.000 And then she suggested, she congratulated Biden on his win.

00:50:31.000 She said, if you win a race, you win a race, which is a lot more conciliatory than Sanders is going to be, obviously.

00:50:37.000 She said, older voters, which we know are more reliable voters, which we know turn out, have decisively gone to Vice President Biden.

00:50:43.000 She said, there's a generational divide within the Democratic Party on healthcare, on climate change, on foreign policy, pretty much every policy imaginable.

00:50:49.000 As a younger person in this movement, I take a lot of that information for how we navigate the next decade.

00:50:54.000 So she's basically saying, okay guys, hold off.

00:50:56.000 Support Biden for now.

00:50:57.000 We'll be back.

00:50:59.000 AOC definitely wants to run for president in just a few years.

00:51:02.000 She's not denying that.

00:51:04.000 That is why she is practical.

00:51:05.000 With that said, Bernie could provide a problem for AOC.

00:51:07.000 Now, does any of this mean that AOC is actually in her right mind when it comes to politics? 0.98

00:51:12.000 Of course not.

00:51:13.000 Of course not.

00:51:14.000 For example, here was AOC last night talking about how it was racist because people were not eating as much at Chinese restaurants.

00:51:20.000 Again, I've not seen the evidence that people are not going to Chinese restaurants.

00:51:23.000 But AOC suggests that there's widespread anti-Asian racism breaking out all over the United States.

00:51:28.000 This is your pragmatic Democratic politician, AOC.

00:51:31.000 Honestly, it sounds almost so silly to say, but there's a lot of restaurants that are feeling the pain of racism, where people are literally not patroning Chinese restaurants.

00:51:44.000 They're not patroning Asian restaurants because of just straight-up racism around the coronavirus.

00:51:50.000 They're not patroning them.

00:51:52.000 I mean, you do have to worry about people patroning other people.

00:51:56.000 Patronizing.

00:51:57.000 Like, right now, I'm patronizing her.

00:51:59.000 I'm being very patronizing toward AOC.

00:52:01.000 Yes, it has dual meanings, secondary definitions.

00:52:04.000 Okay, so that is your practical democratic politician, AOC.

00:52:09.000 By the way, a lot of businesses are struggling right now over legitimate concerns.

00:52:13.000 Okay, Chinese restaurants have been reporting a drop in business.

00:52:15.000 That is true.

00:52:16.000 It is also true that a lot of restaurants are reporting a drop in business.

00:52:18.000 You know why?

00:52:19.000 There are a lot of hard surfaces at restaurants.

00:52:21.000 There was an entire article in the New York Times yesterday about what you should do during the coronavirus outbreak with regard to going to restaurants.

00:52:26.000 One of their answers, if you want to order, order out.

00:52:29.000 Because if you're actually at a restaurant, then you are presumably sitting at a table.

00:52:32.000 A table is a hard surface.

00:52:33.000 The hard surface has been patronized by other people who have been putting their hands all over that.

00:52:38.000 If you have to go sign, then use a pen, use your finger, and then immediately use hand sanitizer because lots of hands all over lots of things at a restaurant.

00:52:47.000 Okay, so this is not about people being like, oh, the Chinese restaurant, probably somebody has Wuhan virus there.

00:52:52.000 That's not, like, this entire overblown idea that people are super racist about it, that we are in the midst of a second Japanese internment in the United States, none of that is true.

00:53:03.000 Like, where's the evidence for this?

00:53:04.000 The media are so focused on this sort of stuff in every instance, it's incredible.

00:53:07.000 In the aftermath of 9-11, there was all this talk about a widespread upsurge in anti-Muslim violence.

00:53:12.000 The statistics did not bear that out.

00:53:13.000 Now we are getting all of these rumors of anti-Asian behavior all over the United States.

00:53:18.000 And that is really not borne out by statistical proof.

00:53:22.000 What's happening generally is that people are making... I would say that... Is it possible that there are some people?

00:53:28.000 Who are wondering whether people have traveled to epicenters of coronavirus recently and they're more worried about that?

00:53:35.000 And they're using group data to make those decisions?

00:53:38.000 I mean, that's possible.

00:53:39.000 Is that racist?

00:53:40.000 That's not really racist.

00:53:41.000 That's just using sort of best available information.

00:53:43.000 It's the difference between what Thomas Sowell called discrimination type one and discrimination type two.

00:53:48.000 Discrimination type one is you are a bad person because you have a particular race.

00:53:52.000 Discrimination type two is basically I'm going to use the best available data at hand right now.

00:53:58.000 Is there a better shot that you've traveled to Wuhan than somebody who's standing right next to you?

00:54:01.000 If the answer is yes, I'm going to be a little bit more risk averse with regard to all of that.

00:54:06.000 Yeah, maybe that's what people are using.

00:54:07.000 That does not mean anti-Chinese racism.

00:54:09.000 That does not mean that people are racist against Chinese people or racist against Asian people or anything like that.

00:54:14.000 But this is your reasonable voice inside the Democratic Party.

00:54:16.000 Good luck to the future of the Democratic Party.

00:54:18.000 Bernie Sanders may be gone, but his spirit lives on in the nuts in the squad who continue to be nuts and are not going anywhere.

00:54:25.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here a little bit later today, two additional hours of content.

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So It’s Biden, Then | Ep. 969

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