The Ben Shapiro Show - So, Who Owns Obamacare Now? | The Ben Shapiro Show Ep. 343

00:00:00.000 On Monday, actor Chris Hemsworth, better known as Thor, explained that the role of James Bond should be redone, this time with Charlize Theron playing the part.

00:00:07.000 Theron is the star of the soon-to-be-released Atomic Blonde, a Bond-adjacent-born female knockoff.

00:00:12.000 She embodies every ounce of strength and nobility and dignity and integrity the character should have, Hemsworth explained.

00:00:17.000 She's smart as hell.

00:00:18.000 She's physically able.

00:00:19.000 You know, watching her in those fight scenes in Snow White and the Huntsman—doing it in high heels, by the way, and an eight-foot-long gown—was even more impressive.

00:00:26.000 And I just think, why not?

00:00:27.000 It's time. 1.00

00:00:28.000 This is, to put it mildly, the stupidest crap I have ever heard. 1.00

00:00:32.000 But it is not rare to hear Hollywoodites virtue signaling by talking about their ideal Bond. 1.00

00:00:36.000 Ian McKellen said years ago he'd like a gay Bond.

00:00:39.000 But Bond is Bond.

00:00:40.000 He has a character.

00:00:41.000 He's an ultra straight womanizer fulfilling teenage boy fantasies.

00:00:44.000 That is the entire point of the character.

00:00:46.000 It just doesn't work the same way with a woman. 1.00

00:00:49.000 Bond is a bad boy because he can seduce any woman no matter how unavailable or beautiful.

00:00:53.000 Making Bond a woman changes that calculus utterly, because virtually any mildly attractive woman can do the same with virtually any man.

00:01:00.000 It is not a challenge for Charlize Theron to get a man in bed. 0.99

00:01:03.000 As Amy Schumer has said, I'm 160 pounds and I can catch a bleep whenever I want.

00:01:07.000 She is scientifically accurate.

00:01:09.000 As David Schmidt, PhD, writes at Psychology Today, quote, Over the last few decades, almost all research studies have found that men are much more eager for casual sex than women are.

00:01:18.000 Oliver and Hyde, 1993.

00:01:19.000 Peterson and Hyde, 2010.

00:01:21.000 This is especially true when it comes to desires for short-term mating with many different sexual partners.

00:01:26.000 And it's even more true for wanting to have sex with complete and total strangers.

00:01:29.000 In a classic social experiment from the 1980s, Clark and Hatfield put the idea of sex differences in consenting to sex with strangers to a real-life test.

00:01:37.000 They had experimental confederates approach college students around various campuses and ask, quote, I've been noticing you around campus.

00:01:42.000 I find you to be very attractive.

00:01:44.000 Would you like to go to bed to meet with me tonight? 0.66

00:01:46.000 Around 75% of men agreed to have sex with a complete stranger, whereas zero women, 0% agreed.

00:01:54.000 In terms of effect size, this is one of the largest sex differences ever discovered in psychological science.

00:01:59.000 Okay, folks, this is not sexism.

00:02:01.000 It is science.

00:02:03.000 Furthermore, there is always going to be a necessary suspension of disbelief while watching Charlize Theron, who might be 120 pounds soaking wet, beat up guys twice her size. 0.92

00:02:10.000 Watching Daniel Craig, who's probably 170, do the same isn't quite the same thing.

00:02:14.000 There are plenty of great female action parts. 1.00

00:02:16.000 Theron might well play one in Atomic Blonde, but hijacking classic characters and having them switch genders and or sexuality destroys the characters.

00:02:23.000 There's a decent case for Idris Elba as Bond.

00:02:25.000 Color doesn't change the math for Bond's character.

00:02:28.000 There is no case for Theron or any other woman to be James Bond.

00:02:31.000 Just stop it. 1.00

00:02:32.000 You're being an idiot. 1.00

00:02:33.000 I'm Ben Shapiro. 1.00

00:02:34.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show. 0.99

00:02:42.000 Alrighty, so, I mean, just when you think things can't get any stupider, they get stupider, really. 0.98

00:02:46.000 Like, this, it's funny, what drives me up a wall, this sort of stuff drives me totally up a wall. 0.98

00:02:50.000 Like, the idea that you're just gonna turn James Bond into a woman and nothing changes? 1.00

00:02:54.000 Because men and women are different, stupid people. 1.00

00:02:56.000 Stupid, stupid leftists. 1.00

00:02:57.000 Men and women are totally different. 1.00

00:03:00.000 Before we get to all of the breakdown from Trumpcare and the fallout, and who's to blame, and is Trump going to pay a price, or is Congress going to pay a price, we'll talk about all of those things.

00:03:11.000 Plus, I want to get to Jake Tapper taking on Linda Sarsour, which is really quite wonderful.

00:03:14.000 We'll get to all of those things, and I'll give you the update, by the way, on a prospective intern that we will be interviewing, hopefully, in the next 48 hours.

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00:04:09.000 Okay, so we actually love Mathis, we just make fun of him because he's in the room.

00:04:11.000 If Austin were in the room, which he no longer is, then we'd make fun of him as well.

00:04:32.000 We're good to go.

00:04:47.000 We're good.

00:05:03.000 According to Jodi Allard, so I said that I would offer her son an internship to help him escape the clutches of evil mom.

00:05:10.000 And last night, Independent Journal Review, a friend of ours named Pardis Sela, who used to work over at Daily Wire, she did a story about this.

00:05:17.000 She actually contacted Jodi Allard's son and found out that he was interested.

00:05:21.000 In a natural internship with us and so he sent a resume to her she forwarded on to us last night Jodi Allard obviously out of the loop tweeted at me and said is this internship stunt just a stunt?

00:05:32.000 We haven't heard anything from you to which I replied well obviously you don't talk to your son who you call a prospective rapist all that much because he sent us a resume and I have it right here on my desk so

00:05:42.000 Uh, hopefully we'll be talking to, uh, to Jared, which is the name of her son, sometime in the next 24, 48 hours.

00:05:47.000 We're seeing if we can work out that phone call right now.

00:05:49.000 We'd love to work something out with him.

00:05:50.000 Obviously, the skill set has to match, but, uh, if it is even a remote match, we'll find some way to work with him, because anything to, to get some money so that he can escape that house, because, horrifying, horrifying.

00:06:01.000 Okay, so, that is the update.

00:06:03.000 I don't know.

00:06:19.000 And that means that a bunch of people on the right are now blaming these folks for the collapse.

00:06:23.000 Now it's fair to blame Susan Collins because Susan Collins was never going to vote for any sort of Obamacare appeal. 1.00

00:06:27.000 She likes Obamacare.

00:06:28.000 It is not fair to blame Mike Lee or Rand Paul.

00:06:31.000 You know, Rand Paul, there's been suggestion that Rand Paul never votes for things because that's just his shtick.

00:06:37.000 Even that is quasi-fair, but it is not fair to blame Mike Lee.

00:06:40.000 The reason that it is not fair to blame Mike Lee is because there are a bunch of people today who are saying that Mike Lee preserved Obamacare.

00:06:46.000 Brit Hume says this, Hugh Hewitt says this, that Obamacare has been preserved by Mike Lee and Rand Paul. 0.99

00:06:51.000 This is a bunch of crap. 0.99

00:06:52.000 Obamacare was preserved by the bill itself. 1.00

00:06:54.000 The bill itself kept all of the regulations under Obamacare.

00:06:58.000 It added some subsidies and got rid of some of the taxes and it restructured Medicaid.

00:07:02.000 Now, if the Republicans had come along, I've been saying this legitimately for months, if the Republicans had come along and said, listen, we're just going to fix Obamacare for the time being.

00:07:10.000 We're going to try and fix it and make some changes that move us in the right direction.

00:07:13.000 But it's not full Obamacare repeal.

00:07:15.000 We are gradually going to get to full Obamacare repeal.

00:07:17.000 Then I would have signed on to this bill in all likelihood.

00:07:19.000 And I think probably so would Mike Lee.

00:07:21.000 But by calling it Obamacare repeal and replace, the implication is that this was the last step.

00:07:26.000 So when people say that Obamacare was going to be repealed except for Mike Lee, that's just nonsense.

00:07:31.000 It is just not true.

00:07:32.000 It is fully dishonest when people say that.

00:07:34.000 Don't look to Mike Lee as the cause of the collapse here.

00:07:39.000 There are many causes of the collapse here, but the first and foremost one is that Republicans were lying, okay?

00:07:42.000 They didn't actually want to

00:07:44.000 Get rid of Obamacare.

00:07:46.000 They just didn't.

00:07:47.000 Okay?

00:07:47.000 And the constituents didn't.

00:07:50.000 President Trump didn't.

00:07:51.000 President Trump was the one who insisted back in January, by the way, that we not do full-scale repeal.

00:07:55.000 Instead we do repeal and replace.

00:07:57.000 That was Trump's suggestion.

00:07:58.000 And then he walked away from that when it turned out that people couldn't agree on what the replacement would look like and actually didn't want to do full-scale repeal.

00:08:04.000 So Trump was out there trying to claim this as a victory yesterday, even though it was a loss.

00:08:08.000 This is what Trump does best.

00:08:10.000 He likes to spin.

00:08:11.000 And the fact is that here is President Trump yesterday talking about how it was really a victory.

00:08:18.000 Like, if you wouldn't know any better, then it was totally a victory.

00:08:21.000 We have 52 people.

00:08:23.000 We had four no's.

00:08:25.000 Now we might have had another one somewhere in there, but essentially the vote would have been pretty close to, if you look at it, 48 to 4.

00:08:33.000 That's a pretty impressive vote by any standard.

00:08:37.000 And yet you have a vote of 48 to 4 or something like that, and you need more.

00:08:42.000 It's pretty tough.

00:08:43.000 We have 52 people.

00:08:45.000 Okay, that is not impressive by any standard.

00:08:47.000 The standard is passing things.

00:08:49.000 It's like Hillary Clinton saying, I won the popular vote.

00:08:51.000 Okay, so you got 48 out of 52.

00:08:53.000 First of all, not even clear there were 48 out of 52.

00:08:54.000 It's just clear that four would not vote for it, not that 48 would.

00:08:58.000 But you can't spin this as a victory when it is not a victory.

00:09:02.000 And as I said yesterday, there was a vacuum of leadership from the top.

00:09:04.000 Trump doesn't know what's in this bill.

00:09:05.000 He doesn't really care what's in this bill.

00:09:07.000 He didn't use the bully pulpit in any way.

00:09:09.000 He didn't threaten moderates to get on board.

00:09:11.000 He didn't threaten conservatives to get on board.

00:09:13.000 He thinks that his Twitter basically alleviates him of the necessity of learning things, and so he can just tweet things out and that will fix it.

00:09:19.000 That is not correct.

00:09:20.000 Today he's supposed to have a bunch of senators to the White House where he's going to talk to them about these things.

00:09:24.000 We'll see if that moves the ball at all, but unless he is actually actively going to use the power that he has to threaten senators who refuse to go along with him, then he's not doing anything.

00:09:35.000 He's not.

00:09:35.000 As I said yesterday, the only power that Trump has over these senators, because his approval rating isn't that high,

00:09:40.000 Is that his approval rating among Republicans is still sky-high.

00:09:43.000 It's still 82% among Republicans.

00:09:45.000 That means he has the capacity to threaten them with funding cuts.

00:09:48.000 He has the capacity to threaten them with primary challengers.

00:09:51.000 He hasn't done any of those things yet.

00:09:52.000 He's sort of sitting back and letting it happen.

00:09:54.000 And the reason he's sitting back and letting it happen is because he thinks that, and it's an interesting strategy, he thinks that if he just says that he's going to let Obamacare fail,

00:10:02.000 Then all will be well.

00:10:03.000 Obamacare will collapse, and then he will be there to pick up the pieces.

00:10:07.000 People will blame Democrats, not Republicans.

00:10:10.000 This was his self-stated strategy.

00:10:11.000 I mean, he said this openly yesterday.

00:10:13.000 And I think you'll also agree that I've been saying for a long time, let Obamacare fail and then everybody's going to have to come together and fix it and come up with a new plan and a plan that's really good for the people with much lower premiums, much lower costs.

00:10:30.000 And much better protection.

00:10:32.000 I've been saying that.

00:10:33.000 Mike, I think you'll agree for a long time.

00:10:35.000 Let Obamacare fail.

00:10:36.000 It'll be a lot easier.

00:10:38.000 And I think we're probably in that position where we'll just let Obamacare fail.

00:10:42.000 We're not going to own it.

00:10:43.000 I'm not going to own it.

00:10:44.000 I can tell you the Republicans are not going to own it.

00:10:47.000 We'll let Obamacare fail and then the Democrats are going to come to us and they're going to say, how do we fix it?

00:10:52.000 How do we fix it?

00:10:53.000 Or how do we come up with a new plan?

00:10:56.000 Okay, if this had been his original strategy, then it might have worked.

00:10:59.000 It's kind of funny to watch Mike Pence in these clips, because he's awkwardly nodding, even though he disagrees.

00:11:04.000 Like yesterday, Mike Pence said, we still have to repeal. 0.76

00:11:06.000 So he obviously disagrees with President Trump, but that's not his job, right?

00:11:10.000 His job is to sort of be a yes-man for Trump.

00:11:11.000 In any case, Trump saying, let Obamacare fail.

00:11:15.000 This would be a fine strategy if he had come out of the gate and he had said, listen,

00:11:19.000 Obamacare is failing.

00:11:20.000 We have a problem here.

00:11:21.000 The only way this is getting solved is with a bipartisan solution.

00:11:24.000 So, I want to call to the White House Chuck Schumer, and Mitch McConnell, and Nancy Pelosi, and Paul Ryan, and I want to have a series of meetings to set up a framework for a bipartisan fix on Obamacare.

00:11:34.000 And then, when things collapse, you say, oh, look at those Democrats.

00:11:36.000 They wouldn't work with us.

00:11:37.000 There was nothing we could do.

00:11:38.000 But that's not what Trump actually did, right?

00:11:40.000 What Trump did is he went to his Republicans and he said, we're going to repeal the whole thing.

00:11:43.000 That's

00:12:00.000 Here's the situation.

00:12:01.000 The sword is in the stone, right?

00:12:03.000 The Obamacare sword is in the stone.

00:12:04.000 That is the status quo.

00:12:05.000 The sword is in the stone.

00:12:07.000 There are two things you could do about that.

00:12:09.000 You could either look at the Democrats and point at them and say, listen, the sword is in the stone.

00:12:12.000 It shouldn't be in the stone.

00:12:13.000 You're the ones who put it there.

00:12:14.000 And I know, and you know, that unless we cooperate, we can't get the sword out of the stone.

00:12:18.000 Or you could do what Trump and the Republicans did and say, if you elect us, we will remove the sword from the stone.

00:12:23.000 And then they don't remove the sword from the stone.

00:12:25.000 And then they say, well, the sword's only in the stone because the Democrats put it there anyway.

00:12:28.000 Okay, it doesn't have the same appeal.

00:12:30.000 It doesn't have the same appeal.

00:12:31.000 And it's a bit of a mistake, because Democrats are jumping on this to say, okay, well, now he acknowledges that Obamacare is failing, he acknowledges that the healthcare system has problems, and he's not going to fix it.

00:12:41.000 In fact, he's going to make it worse.

00:12:43.000 So if there were Democrats in there, if you elected us, we'd fix the thing.

00:12:47.000 Right?

00:12:47.000 We wouldn't get rid of it.

00:12:48.000 We'd fix the thing.

00:12:48.000 This is what Democrats are going to claim.

00:12:50.000 If you had elected us, if you'd made us, if you'd made Hillary the president, and you'd put us in Congress, we would have fixed the thing.

00:12:55.000 We would have removed the sword from the stone ourselves. 0.80

00:12:59.000 But, you elected Trump instead, and so he's just going to bitch and complain about what exactly, why the sword is there in the first place. 0.60

00:13:06.000 So Trump is continuing to make this case.

00:13:08.000 He says, you know, we need to elect more Republicans.

00:13:10.000 That's the goal here.

00:13:11.000 Just elect more Republicans.

00:13:12.000 So the way I look at it is in 18, we're going to have to get some more people elected.

00:13:18.000 We have to go out and we have to get more people elected that are Republican.

00:13:22.000 And we have to probably pull in those people, those few people that voted against it.

00:13:26.000 I don't know.

00:13:27.000 They're going to have to explain to you why they did, and I'm sure they'll have very fine reasons.

00:13:31.000 But we have to get more Republicans elected because we have to get it done.

00:13:35.000 We got it passed in the House.

00:13:37.000 We would have gotten it very much.

00:13:39.000 Yeah, you can't use his head as a stand, right?

00:13:41.000 We don't want that to happen.

00:13:43.000 You're messing with the wrong guy here.

00:13:46.000 So we want...

00:13:50.000 I think we're going to do very well, actually, in 18.

00:13:51.000 I would be not surprised if something were done long before that.

00:13:56.000 But in any event, because the margin is so small, the majority margin is so small, we're going to have to go out and get more Republicans elected in 18, and I'll be working very hard for that to happen, okay?

00:14:08.000 Okay, so this has been the consistent Republican pitch for years, right?

00:14:10.000 Give us the House, we'll repeal Obamacare.

00:14:12.000 Give us the Senate, we'll repeal Obamacare.

00:14:14.000 Give us the presidency, we'll repeal Obamacare.

00:14:15.000 I don't know how much longer you can run this scam when you run the majority in both houses and you're still not repealing Obamacare and have no intention of passing a full repeal.

00:14:23.000 Mitch McConnell is supposedly going to put the full repeal to a vote on Monday.

00:14:26.000 Now, understand something.

00:14:27.000 Even the full repeal bill, right, the plain, simple repeal bill,

00:14:30.000 We're good.

00:14:45.000 Do Republicans need more people in the Senate? 0.85

00:14:47.000 Yes.

00:14:47.000 And now would be a great time to put more Republicans in the Senate, considering that you've got, I think, ten Democratic seats in red states that are up in this next election cycle.

00:14:57.000 So if Republicans were to pick up even four of those, then they'd have a really solid majority going into the second half of Trump's term.

00:15:03.000 But he is going to need to do a better job of making the case.

00:15:05.000 Again, if you're going to put blame on Democrats, you have to explain why the blame is on Democrats.

00:15:09.000 Yesterday, Sarah Huckabee Sanders came out and she said that it was Democrats' fault that this had all happened.

00:15:18.000 It's hard to make the case it's Democrats' fault when you never reached out to Democrats in the first place.

00:15:21.000 So this is a botch, basically, from the beginning.

00:15:24.000 And I'm not sure that Trump is going to get out of it that easily.

00:15:26.000 Now, is it going to hurt Trump?

00:15:27.000 I don't think it'll hurt Trump.

00:15:28.000 I think it'll hurt Congress.

00:15:30.000 So if you look at the generic congressional ballot right now, a generic congressional ballot has Democrats up 10.

00:15:34.000 That is wipeout territory for Republicans.

00:15:36.000 If Democrats are up 10, then Republicans, if that were real, right, Democrats would win, probably back the majority in the House.

00:15:44.000 Unclear what would happen in the Senate, because Senate races are different, but they'd be in good shape to win back the majority in the House.

00:15:49.000 There's one poll statistic that's great for Trump in this, which says that

00:15:52.000 Are they feeling good right now?

00:15:53.000 Are they feeling enthused right now?

00:16:08.000 So I think what you're going to see is President Trump go back to bashing the media because if legislation is hard, bashing the media is easy.

00:16:14.000 He can do it unilaterally.

00:16:15.000 He can do it by himself.

00:16:16.000 The base loves it.

00:16:17.000 He's going to run against the media in 2018, even if there is nothing else for him to run on.

00:16:22.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats are going to say, listen, Republicans refuse to even make basic fixes.

00:16:26.000 There's talk that Trump is going to remove some of the subsidies for the Obamacare exchanges and exacerbate the death spiral in order to bring Democrats to the table.

00:16:34.000 Democrats are saying, well, that's mean and that's cruel.

00:16:37.000 So their case is going to be, listen, we all know the thing is flawed, but only one party here wants to actually fix it, and it's not the Republicans, who won't even repeal and replace.

00:16:44.000 Right?

00:16:44.000 That's exactly what Bernie Sanders is saying.

00:16:46.000 He's saying Trump wants millions of people to suffer.

00:16:49.000 Well, my response is, last I heard, Trump was the President of the United States, the leader of our country.

00:16:55.000 Republicans control the House and the Senate.

00:16:59.000 And it is beyond comprehension, all I know it's...

00:17:03.000 You know, we keep saying this about Donald Trump, but it is beyond comprehension that you have a president who basically wants millions of people to suffer, so he thinks that he can win some political points.

00:17:14.000 Okay, the problem is that what Trump is saying runs directly into the teeth of this.

00:17:18.000 Okay, when Trump says, let Obamacare fail, and then the Democrat, and then Sanders goes out and says, when he says let Obamacare fail, what he means is he wants millions of people to die.

00:17:27.000 Right, when he says that, it has a little more credibility than it normally would, because

00:17:33.000 He's not offering any alternative, right?

00:17:34.000 And this is the big problem here.

00:17:36.000 Chuck Schumer says the same thing.

00:17:37.000 He says, the Republican plan is going to kill the patient.

00:17:40.000 Obviously, this is exaggerated language.

00:17:41.000 Obviously, he's wrong.

00:17:42.000 Obviously, he's lying.

00:17:44.000 It's amazing.

00:17:44.000 If the Republicans had just repealed this thing, we'd go back to status quo ante, which was no Obamacare when 92% of Americans had health insurance.

00:17:53.000 So the fact is that the vast majority of Americans always had health insurance.

00:17:57.000 It's not that Obamacare saved millions of people or anything, but that's the case Schumer is trying to make.

00:18:01.000 In fact, passing repeal and having it go into effect two years later is in many ways worse than the Republican health care bill that was just rejected by my Republican colleagues.

00:18:15.000 It's like if our health care system was a patient who came in and needed some medicine.

00:18:21.000 The Republicans proposed surgery.

00:18:24.000 The operation was a failure.

00:18:27.000 Now Republicans are proposing a second surgery that will surely kill the patient.

00:18:32.000 Medicine is needed.

00:18:33.000 Bipartisan medicine.

00:18:36.000 Not a second surgery.

00:18:38.000 Okay, and this is why it was important to have a clear strategy going in. 0.94

00:18:40.000 Not because Schumer is anything but a liar. 1.00

00:18:42.000 He is an absolute liar. 1.00

00:18:44.000 As evidenced, Chuck Schumer is a liar. 1.00

00:18:45.000 Yesterday, he tweeted out that anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism. 0.98

00:18:48.000 This is a guy who endorsed, for the leadership of the Democratic National Committee, Keith Ellison, a devotee of Louis Farrakhan, who has said multiple anti-Semitic things in the past and hung out with anti-Semites.

00:19:00.000 Yeah, Chuck Schumer is a pathological liar on politics, but this is a game, and you have to know how to play the game, and the Democrats right now are outplaying the Republicans, even from a minority position. 0.87

00:19:10.000 It is amazing to watch how incompetent the Republicans are about all of this.

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00:20:28.000 With the Democrats claiming that Republicans are waiting in the wings to murder people, you would think that not only would the Republicans be in trouble in Congress, they'd be in trouble in the presidential polls.

00:20:39.000 And indeed, if you look at the latest poll from Public Policy Polling, yes, it's a Democratic polling firm, and yes, these polls don't mean a lot when they're far out, but it's kind of interesting to look at it.

00:20:49.000 The fact is that right now, if Trump ran against most of the major Democratic candidates, he would lose.

00:20:56.000 So, they talked to 836 registered voters.

00:20:59.000 They said that a majority wished that Obama were president versus Trump, and a minority wished that Hillary were president instead of Trump, although she has worse approval ratings than Trump does.

00:21:09.000 But, the ones that matter is that against Joe Biden,

00:21:13.000 In a hypothetical matchup against Joe Biden, he would supposedly lose 54 to 39 against Bernie Sanders, 52 to 39.

00:21:19.000 So before everybody says, well, polling is just terrible.

00:21:21.000 Polling is always wrong.

00:21:22.000 The polling at the national polling, the state polling was off in the last election cycle.

00:21:25.000 The national polling was not off.

00:21:27.000 The national polling was on.

00:21:28.000 So before you do the before you say to me, all polls are worthless.

00:21:32.000 It is not good when the current president of the United States who's in for you know He's only been in for six months.

00:21:37.000 This should be the high point of his term He's already losing to Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders combined aged 2309 by double digits.

00:21:43.000 He's apparently

00:21:48.000 Well, losing in a hypothetical contest with Elizabeth Warren.

00:21:51.000 That one I don't believe.

00:21:52.000 Cory Booker, 45-40.

00:21:53.000 Kamala Harris, 41-40.

00:21:54.000 Now, this should be a tip to Democrats.

00:21:56.000 This is what's truly fascinating about where the Democrats are.

00:21:59.000 So I keep talking about the problems Republicans are having, which makes sense, since they're the governing party, and they're not good at it.

00:22:05.000 But, the problems the Democrats are having are so much worse.

00:22:08.000 They're so much worse than the problems Republicans are having.

00:22:10.000 Yes, Republicans are bad at everything except for increasing military spending and tax cuts.

00:22:14.000 Those are the only two things that Republicans are good at because they have no consensus on anything else, but...

00:22:19.000 The Democrats have not figured out what exactly their party is about.

00:22:24.000 Is their party about big government socialism?

00:22:27.000 The sort of cross-cultural socialism of Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders?

00:22:32.000 Or are they still so in love with the memory of Barack Obama that they're going to pursue intersectionality down to its root?

00:22:38.000 Look at those poll numbers again, because this is what's fascinating.

00:22:41.000 Not that Trump's going to lose to all these people, because, you know, it doesn't mean anything.

00:22:44.000 We're too far out.

00:22:44.000 But look at the contrast.

00:22:46.000 Joe Biden, 54.

00:22:48.000 Bernie Sanders, 52.

00:22:50.000 Warren, 49.

00:22:52.000 Booker, 45.

00:22:53.000 Kamala Harris, 41.

00:22:55.000 Which one of those names has been the hottest in the Democratic press lately?

00:22:59.000 Kamala Harris, right?

00:22:59.000 The Senator from California.

00:23:00.000 The first-term Senator from California.

00:23:02.000 Why?

00:23:02.000 Not because she's good at her job.

00:23:03.000 She's unbelievably crappy at her job, just like she was unbelievably crappy at being Attorney General in my state. 0.95

00:23:08.000 But why do they like her? 1.00

00:23:09.000 Because she is a black woman.

00:23:11.000 And this means that she has checked two of the intersectional boxes.

00:23:14.000 For people who don't understand what intersectionality is, basically intersectionality suggests that all of American society was designed to privilege white males and that there is an intersectional hierarchy of people who have been victimized by American society

00:23:26.000 Whose credibility cannot be challenged when they talk about how America needs to change.

00:23:30.000 So, at the very top, you have LGBT folks, and then you have black women, and then you have black men, and then you have Hispanic women, and then you have Hispanic men, and then you have Asians, and then you have Jews, and then finally, way down at the bottom, you have white males, right? 0.50

00:23:41.000 Sorry, Muslims rank somewhere between blacks and LGBT folks. 0.98

00:23:44.000 So, this is the intersectional hierarchy.

00:23:47.000 The Democrats have decided that it is more important for them to cobble together a coalition of the dispossessed, right, a coalition of the angry, than it is to actually come up with a message that appeals to a broad swath of Americans, which is why they ally with people like Linda Sarsour.

00:24:00.000 It's why they push people like Keith Ellison.

00:24:02.000 They've doubled down on identity politics because they believe that the demographics of the country are moving in their direction, and if they continue to alienate white voters, it won't make a difference.

00:24:11.000 This failed them in 2016 because white voters, white blue-collar voters for the first time voted as a racial bloc, an almost racial bloc.

00:24:18.000 More white blue-collar voters voted for President Trump than Hispanics voted for Hillary Clinton in the last election cycle.

00:24:24.000 White voters voted as an intersectional hierarchy group.

00:24:28.000 In reverse.

00:24:29.000 But Democrats are still doing this.

00:24:30.000 And so when you look at the actual... There should be a hint to Democrats, but they're too stupid to take it. 1.00

00:24:35.000 When you look at the candidates who are most likely to succeed against Trump, it is candidates like Joe Biden, a white male, Bernie Sanders, a white male, Elizabeth Warren, a white woman, and then you go down the list and you get to black man Cory Booker and black woman Kamala Harris. 0.99

00:24:48.000 So precisely the opposite of what the intersectional hierarchy would suggest would be a successful strategy.

00:24:54.000 Is what would work and that's what Democrats are rejecting.

00:24:57.000 Democrats are much more interested in focusing in full scale on which person can we pick who is going to please minority communities even if they have no broad-based appeal like Kamala Harris.

00:25:09.000 Pretty amazing stuff, but Democrats are not going to take that advice, and we're going to talk about that in just a second.

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00:26:40.000 Meanwhile, while all this is going on, while the Democrats are struggling to come up with an identity, they keep centering around people like Linda Sarsour.

00:26:49.000 So yesterday, I thought this was just amazing.

00:26:52.000 The Democrats, the Women's March, we talked about this two days ago.

00:26:56.000 The Women's March had paid tribute to Assata Shakur, who's an actual terrorist, like an actual terrorist human being, who shot a cop in New Jersey back in the 1970s, in the 79, and then fled to Cuba.

00:27:07.000 They paid tribute to her, and they did this whole shtick about how they don't believe in her violence, but they appreciate that she fought sexism within the Black Panther Party.

00:27:16.000 Which is like saying, I don't appreciate what Osama Bin Laden does with American buildings, but I do appreciate him fighting Islamophobia around the world.

00:27:24.000 No, no, no.

00:27:27.000 But the Women's March tweeted that out. 0.99

00:27:28.000 So Jake Tapper, who, as I've said before, is one of the few people in the media who I think actually tries to get it right.

00:27:34.000 And I know there's a lot of disagreement about Jake Tapper on the right.

00:27:37.000 But I think Jake is actually attempting to be intellectually honest.

00:27:40.000 Is he still a guy of the left?

00:27:41.000 I think he is, but he's an intellectually honest fellow, or at least attempts to be.

00:27:45.000 And so yesterday he tweeted this out.

00:27:47.000 He said, any progressives out there condemning this?

00:28:04.000 Which is exactly right.

00:28:06.000 And then Sarsour called Jake Tapper a member of the alt-right.

00:28:10.000 She said, So first of all, whenever people say shame, they usually have no real reason to do so.

00:28:13.000 That goes to Game of Thrones as well.

00:28:15.000 In any case, Linda Sarsour.

00:28:28.000 Says, what about me is so bad?

00:28:29.000 And Jake Tapper immediately slams her. 0.97

00:28:30.000 He says, your comments about Ayaan Hirsi Ali, for one.

00:28:32.000 So if you recall, she said about Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who is a Muslim who's no longer Muslim, right?

00:28:39.000 She's a heretic under Muslim law. 1.00

00:28:42.000 She was generally mutilated by Islamists, and then they attempted to force her into a child marriage.

00:28:47.000 She fled, she ended up in Denmark, and now she lives in the United States.

00:28:52.000 I believe that she's married to Niall Ferguson, the historian from Harvard. 0.99

00:28:55.000 And Linda Sarsour had said that she wished she could remove Ayaan Hirsi Ali's vagina. 1.00

00:29:00.000 So Jake Tapper is calling her out on that. 0.98

00:29:03.000 And there's a whole history.

00:29:04.000 I mean, we've talked about Linda Sarsour before.

00:29:05.000 Linda Sarsour is a radical. 1.00

00:29:07.000 She is somebody who has spoken highly of terrorists and terrorist groups before. 0.98

00:29:12.000 She's really a devastatingly bad human being. 0.79

00:29:15.000 And Jake Tapper took her to the woodshed here.

00:29:17.000 When even Jake Tapper is taking you to the woodshed because you're so extreme, that should say something to the Democratic Party.

00:29:23.000 But it doesn't, because the Democratic Party is so ensconced in its own belief

00:29:27.000 That all that matters is building a coalition to take down Western civilization that they don't care who they include in that coalition.

00:29:34.000 From Linda Sarsour to Assata Shakur, none of it matters.

00:29:38.000 You know, cop killers, terrorist apologists, none of it, none of it matters.

00:29:42.000 So the Democrats are still having this trouble, which means the only unity they have is, again, as always, being anti-Republican.

00:29:49.000 So, last night they went nuts because apparently President Trump had an undisclosed meeting with Vladimir Putin.

00:29:54.000 There was a big meeting over at the G20.

00:29:55.000 There was a big dinner.

00:29:57.000 We're good.

00:29:58.000 That was held by Angela Merkel over at the G20.

00:30:02.000 And apparently during the dinner, President Trump, who was not seated next to Vladimir Putin, but Melania was, he got up and he walked away from where he was sitting.

00:30:11.000 He walked around to Vladimir Putin, pulled up a chair, and proceeded to have a full hour conversation with no other American official present.

00:30:17.000 So he didn't bring Rex Tillerson.

00:30:19.000 He didn't bring a Russian translator.

00:30:20.000 The only person who was there was Putin's translator, which is not great because you never know if Putin's translator is telling Trump lies, right? 0.99

00:30:28.000 Putin could be saying, look at this American schmuck. 0.98

00:30:31.000 And then the translator says, he says you're a wonderful guy. 0.99

00:30:35.000 That's exactly what could be happening.

00:30:36.000 Plus, Putin is old KGB.

00:30:40.000 If you are in Trump's cabinet, the last thing you want is a meeting where you don't have anyone in there who's able to at least monitor what's being said.

00:30:46.000 We've had this problem before.

00:30:47.000 Last time Trump was in a room alone with Russians.

00:30:49.000 He ended up spilling Israeli national security information that put in danger an Israeli spy who was trying to spy on ISIS.

00:30:54.000 So, you have this meeting, and the media goes crazy.

00:30:57.000 They say, oh, this is obviously something nefarious going on.

00:31:00.000 Now, listen, do I think that when you have a meeting that's an hour long at one of these things that we should know what's happening?

00:31:06.000 Yes, because I am for full-scale transparency from any president, and I don't think that that's really appropriate.

00:31:12.000 I do want to know from the media, and I just don't know the answer to this.

00:31:14.000 Is it that Trump has lots of meetings with Russians and then doesn't disclose it?

00:31:18.000 Or is it that Trump has lots of meetings with everyone and then doesn't disclose it?

00:31:21.000 I mean, I've seen reports that he had meetings with various other governmental actors over the last six months, and then it was reported like four days later, but no one cared because it wasn't Russia.

00:31:30.000 So, it's hard to tell how much of this is real and how much of this is just the media thinking that every time Trump eats something with Russian dressing on it, he's spying with Vladimir Putin.

00:31:41.000 In any case, Putin continues to speak highly of Trump.

00:31:43.000 Here's what Vladimir Putin had to say about him.

00:31:47.000 You met with Donald Trump recently, this guy questioning Putin.

00:31:49.000 Could be interesting to hear your impression of him as a person.

00:31:56.000 I did not expect this, and I believe it is very important for a person who has a public profile, a politician.

00:32:01.000 He has the ability to listen.

00:32:04.000 At least this is what our conversation was like.

00:32:07.000 I do not know what he's like with other people he talks to, but during our conversation, I listened to him with attention as well.

00:32:12.000 When he set out his ideas and proposals on developing cooperation, and he did the same.

00:32:18.000 You know, this is something that does not happen all the time.

00:32:22.000 For a person who works with people who is involved in politics, I reiterate, this is a vitally important ability to be able to listen and to respond and communicate promptly.

00:32:31.000 You have substantial experience, I believe.

00:32:38.000 There are some people who only hear themselves.

00:32:39.000 Whatever you tell them, it is like a buzz in the background for them.

00:32:46.000 You're talking to them, but they're not listening at all.

00:32:48.000 The current U.S.

00:32:54.000 president is different.

00:32:55.000 He responds to what his interlocutor says, to the arguments, and responds to them.

00:32:58.000 Okay, so in other words, Putin is trying to butter up Trump.

00:33:01.000 That's the way that you do it.

00:33:02.000 This is why you don't want to have these meetings alone.

00:33:04.000 Trump tweeted out that the media is making a big deal out of all of this, and I tend to believe that Trump is correct about this. 0.99

00:33:09.000 He says, fake news story of secret dinner with Putin is sick.

00:33:12.000 In quotation marks.

00:33:12.000 I mean, he might be right about this, but he really needs to learn how to use scare quotes.

00:33:18.000 That's not how they work.

00:33:21.000 Well, to be fair, the press wasn't saying that the meeting itself, this dinner, was secret.

00:33:26.000 They were saying that he never disclosed that he talked with Putin for an hour.

00:33:29.000 The White House released a statement saying it was a brief meet-and-greet.

00:33:32.000 People in the room say it was an hour.

00:33:34.000 So there's still details to come out, but the media is going to continue jumping all over the Russia thing and playing up every little thing, which means that Trump should be careful here, because, you know, if you want to win, then you might want to just be careful about how you conduct yourself.

00:33:48.000 There's no reason to give the other side this much material on a day-in, day-out basis.

00:33:54.000 Final conclusion here with regard to Obamacare and where it is going.

00:33:58.000 I don't think that what happened with Obamacare is going to damage Trump.

00:34:02.000 It is very obvious that the Republican press are not interested in going after Trump in any way because the constituency for Republicans is still much more enamored of Trump.

00:34:10.000 Then with Republican Congress people.

00:34:12.000 Republican Congress people are still much more unpopular than Trump, so you're seeing a motivated attempt by the media on the right to guard Trump from the blowback.

00:34:20.000 That means that Trump has the power to push something through.

00:34:22.000 He doesn't have to.

00:34:23.000 I think what's more likely to happen is Trump is likely to continue shilly-shallying around, not really taking a solid position on Obamacare.

00:34:29.000 Nothing gets passed, Republicans get blamed in the Congress, Trump separates himself off, and then he works with Democrats.

00:34:34.000 I think that is the most likely thing, but you never know, right?

00:34:37.000 It's all unpredictable.

00:34:40.000 I do not know that his strategy of let it all fail and then Republicans won't pay for it is going to work.

00:34:45.000 However, okay.

00:34:46.000 We're gonna get some things I like and some things I hate.

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00:36:07.000 Things that I like.

00:36:08.000 So Martin Landau died this week, which is really sad.

00:36:11.000 Martin Landau is a really charming actor.

00:36:14.000 For some reason, I always used to get him mixed up with Leonard Nimoy, but they're very different actors.

00:36:19.000 Martin Landau is a much more versatile actor than Leonard Nimoy.

00:36:24.000 He was in a lot of stuff.

00:36:25.000 The thing that I grew up with him in was Mission Impossible.

00:36:27.000 So when I was growing up, my parents used to rent for us old TV shows.

00:36:30.000 They didn't actually let us watch a lot of the current TV because it was too sexualized.

00:36:34.000 So they would go out and they'd rent old episodes of The Waltons.

00:36:36.000 We'd go down to Eddie Brandt's Saturday Matinee, which is the greatest video store in human history.

00:36:40.000 We'd go over there and we would get old, they had like full seasons of The Waltons and Mary Tyler Moore and The Dick Van Dyke Show.

00:36:47.000 So we grew up on all that TV.

00:36:49.000 We're good to go.

00:37:10.000 We're good to go.

00:37:28.000 Prevent something bad from happening.

00:38:01.000 There's Martin Landau right there, taking off on the big bass, right?

00:38:03.000 So... Peter Graves was the original.

00:38:17.000 Remember, he stars in the movie, too.

00:38:19.000 There's Martin Landau.

00:38:22.000 Beautiful Barbara Bain.

00:38:24.000 Greg Morris.

00:38:25.000 It's a great show, so if you can go watch some of the old episodes.

00:38:27.000 It's really, really good.

00:38:29.000 He also had a long career in Hollywood.

00:38:32.000 He did a lot of pretty good movies.

00:38:34.000 He made his first major film appearance, you'll remember, in North by Northwest, who was the right-hand man of James Mason, who was the major criminal in that.

00:38:41.000 He was also in Cleopatra and The Greatest Story Ever Told.

00:38:45.000 And you'll remember that he was also in Rounders, right? 0.50

00:38:48.000 So if you've seen Rounders, 1.00

00:38:49.000 He's great in Rounders. 1.00

00:38:50.000 He's the old law professor who basically tells Matt Damon to pursue his dream of being a loser gambler.

00:38:57.000 So he's great in that.

00:39:01.000 And in his later days, he got less productive, obviously, but he does have a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

00:39:09.000 Very, very good actor, and sad to see him go.

00:39:11.000 Okay, so, other things that I like.

00:39:14.000 So, this was just hilarious.

00:39:15.000 Yesterday, Chris Christie, the rotund governor of New Jersey, who everyone hates at this point, went to a Mets game.

00:39:21.000 And if you're Chris Christie, probably the worst thing you could do right now is go into a highly public setting, and a ball is hit, and you'll see Chris Christie catch it, and watch what the crowd does.

00:39:30.000 And a souvenir for Chris Christie.

00:39:31.000 Are you kidding me?

00:39:32.000 How about that?

00:39:35.000 You just noticed him.

00:39:40.000 Doesn't matter.

00:39:41.000 Still gets booed.

00:39:42.000 Because he's Chris Christie.

00:39:43.000 Which is just epic.

00:39:44.000 So, you gotta love that about the Mets crowd.

00:39:46.000 I am not the biggest fan of New Yorkers as a general matter, but that is pretty spectacular.

00:39:52.000 So well done New York Mets fans.

00:39:53.000 Kinda love it.

00:39:54.000 Okay.

00:40:08.000 Time for a couple of things that I hate.

00:40:15.000 So the first thing that I hate is that late on Monday, the Trump administration certified to Congress that Iran has been meeting its necessary requirements under the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action.

00:40:23.000 This would be Obama's Iran deal.

00:40:25.000 As you recall, President Trump promised that day one he was going to pull out of the Iran deal.

00:40:28.000 On the very first day, he was going to pull out of it.

00:40:30.000 It is still operative, and he has now twice certified that Iran is in compliance.

00:40:35.000 The problem with that is that the Iran deal specifically allows them to continue operating without sanctions.

00:40:41.000 It continues to allow them to develop

00:40:43.000 Thank you.

00:40:54.000 But they say that Iran is violating the spirit of the agreement, but they're not violating the text of the agreement, and then you have the State Department saying that Iran remains one of the most dangerous threats to U.S.

00:41:05.000 interests. 1.00

00:41:05.000 Okay, if that's the case, then just reject the stupid deal. 1.00

00:41:08.000 Just reject the stupid deal. 1.00

00:41:10.000 Last April, Trump was slamming the Obama deal. 1.00

00:41:14.000 That's disastrous.

00:41:14.000 He said in front of AIPAC that it was catastrophic.

00:41:17.000 Hey, either kill the deal or don't kill the deal, but this routine where you split the baby is getting very irritating and repeatedly, repeatedly, you get this routine from the Trump administration where they say that they are going to stand by some conservative position and they don't do it.

00:41:36.000 So the Trump administration just brought in 15, they just issued 15,000 new travel visas for people who are coming into work.

00:41:44.000 I think?

00:41:57.000 That I'm missing here, that they've done in the last couple of days that are not good, the Cuba policy, for example.

00:42:03.000 They said that they were going to reject Obama's Cuba policy.

00:42:05.000 They've kept most of Obama's Cuba policy in place.

00:42:07.000 Again, don't pee on our leg and tell us it's raining.

00:42:10.000 Okay, if you don't actually want to do anything about something, don't promise you're going to do it. 0.98

00:42:13.000 Don't make promises you can't fulfill, especially when your entire schtick is, politicians are all dirty, politicians are all liars, I'm not one of them. 0.94

00:42:20.000 Okay, other things that I hate. 0.89

00:42:21.000 Dana Rohrbacher, who's a congressman out here in California.

00:42:24.000 I didn't know whether to put this in things I like or things I hate just because it's so absurd.

00:42:27.000 Dana Rohrbacher, who I know and Dana is a nice guy.

00:42:30.000 I've spoken at one of his events.

00:42:34.000 He has like a drinking beer St.

00:42:36.000 Paddy's Day event.

00:42:38.000 And Dana Rohrbacher was questioning someone from NASA yesterday and this is a thing that actually happened in America in the Congress.

00:42:46.000 The most important thing was if Mars

00:42:49.000 Can I ask permission for one minute for this question?

00:42:53.000 And that is, you have indicated that Mars was totally different thousands of years ago.

00:43:00.000 Is it possible that there was a civilization on Mars thousands of years ago?

00:43:08.000 So the evidence is that Mars was different billions of years ago, not thousands of years ago.

00:43:14.000 And there is no evidence that I'm aware of.

00:43:19.000 Would you rule that out?

00:43:21.000 I would say that is extremely unlikely.

00:43:29.000 So that is a thing that happened.

00:43:30.000 A sitting congressperson in the United States suggested that there was a civilization on Mars thousands of years ago because they'd said that there was changes on the surface of Mars billions of years ago.

00:43:41.000 So good job, Dana Rohrabacher.

00:43:44.000 He's also known affectionately as Putin's congressperson.

00:43:47.000 He's been very, very warm for Vladimir Putin.

00:43:49.000 But this is, I think that

00:43:52.000 You may want to think about qualification if you're worrying about whether or not there is civilization on Mars.

00:43:58.000 If there is, can we send Congress there?

00:44:01.000 Okay, so other things that I hate.

00:44:02.000 So yesterday, Tucker Carlson, who I thought he had a debate with Max Boot, which I refrained from commenting on because I just didn't see the point.

00:44:10.000 I thought it was quite an awful exchange with Max Boot actually.

00:44:12.000 I thought that Max Boot was largely correct.

00:44:14.000 I thought Tucker was wildly disingenuous in the interview.

00:44:17.000 I think Tucker's really good at his job.

00:44:18.000 I think he's really talented.

00:44:19.000 But I think that he's demagogic in his approach in many of these cases.

00:44:23.000 He laughs off any legit criticism of him.

00:44:26.000 He uses, he insults the person that he's talking to as a preemptory measure.

00:44:31.000 And then he

00:44:34.000 I don't know.

00:44:54.000 PaleoCon, right?

00:44:55.000 He had on Max Blumenthal the other night.

00:44:58.000 Max Blumenthal is legitimately one of the scummier people in American politics. 1.00

00:45:01.000 I mean, just a pig. 0.99

00:45:02.000 Somebody who used to attack Andrew Breitbart regularly, lie about him. 1.00

00:45:06.000 Max Blumenthal is a self-hating Jew. 0.89

00:45:09.000 He's an ethnic Jew, but he has absolutely nothing to do with Judaism. 0.95

00:45:12.000 He wrote a book called Goliath that's been widely panned, in which he repeatedly compares Israel to the Nazis, which is about the most insulting thing that you can do to both Israel and Jews generally. 1.00

00:45:20.000 He is a pig. 1.00

00:45:21.000 Just a disgusting, disgusting, radical human being. 1.00

00:45:24.000 And Tucker has him on the show. 0.99

00:45:26.000 Why does he have Max Blumenthal on the show?

00:45:28.000 Because Max Blumenthal agrees there's nothing to this Trump-Russia stuff.

00:45:30.000 So it's very important that you give a platform to one of the worst people on planet Earth in order so that he can talk about it.

00:45:36.000 I thought the Democrats should have responded with a big narrative against permanent war and for economic equality.

00:45:42.000 Instead, they're pushing Russia's scandal-mongering non-stop.

00:45:46.000 It's subsumed all of the progressive grassroots movements I believed in, and it's basically buried the left.

00:45:53.000 In a militaristic narrative that ambitious figures like Jamie Raskin are advancing.

00:45:59.000 Mark my words Tucker, when Trump is gone, this narrative, this Russia hysteria will be repurposed by the political establishment to attack the left and anyone on the left.

00:46:09.000 Bernie Sanders like politician who steps out of line on the issues of permanent war.

00:46:14.000 Or, uh, corporate free trade, things like that, will be painted as Russia puppets.

00:46:19.000 So this is very dangerous, and people who are progressive, who are falling into it, need to know what the long-term consequences of this cynical narrative are.

00:46:27.000 It seems virtually everyone on the left in Washington, with some exceptions, you're one, I know a couple others, but I know people who I think of as reasonable, I don't agree with them, but who seem to really believe that Vladimir Putin was in control of the last election.

00:46:42.000 Do you think they believe it?

00:46:45.000 I don't know.

00:46:45.000 I think there's... I can't speak for other people.

00:46:47.000 I'm not a mind reader.

00:46:49.000 But there's definitely a political class in Washington that sees Russia's scandal mongering as a silver bullet to take out Trump.

00:46:56.000 And then you have the Democrats who are basically... In other words, Tucker is so eager to get somebody who is purportedly of the left, not purportedly, of the hard left.

00:47:05.000 to talk about why the Trump-Russia stuff isn't a thing that he brings on somebody like Max Blumenthal.

00:47:09.000 This is the same thing as when Sean has on Julian Assange to talk about how Trump-Russia isn't a thing and then touts him as a hero.

00:47:16.000 The right is making all sorts of new friends.

00:47:18.000 If your allegiance to a particular political figure is forcing you into alignment with people like Max Blumenthal and Julian Assange and you are now welcoming them as friends and treating them with anything but disdain, let me recommend to you that you've made some mistakes in your life.

00:47:32.000 You shouldn't be part of a movement that is now making common cause with people like Julian Assange, who's put American lives in danger, or Max Blumenthal, one of the scummiest people on earth.

00:47:42.000 It's amazing.

00:47:42.000 I mean, remember, Sidney Blumenthal was Hillary Clinton's hatchet man.

00:47:45.000 So we're now at the point, politics is so topsy-turvy and so circular, that at this point, Sidney Blumenthal, who used Max Blumenthal as an advisor on Israel to Hillary Clinton, is appearing on Tucker Carlson's show to defend Donald Trump because Tucker Carlson wants to defend Trump.

00:47:58.000 I mean, that's how crazy all of this has gotten.

00:48:01.000 The rules have changed and there are no rules anymore.

00:48:04.000 It's catch-as-catch-can, but people with principles should think twice before they start making way for people like Max Blumenthal just because he's saying some things you'll like.

00:48:11.000 Really, really quite disgusting.

00:48:13.000 Okay, so we'll be back here tomorrow with all of the latest.

00:48:15.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:48:16.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - July 19, 2017

So, Who Owns Obamacare Now? | The Ben Shapiro Show Ep. 343

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