The Ben Shapiro Show - Stepping On Your Own Bleep | Ep. 1018

00:00:00.000 Fallout continues from Joe Biden's statement that no black person could vote for Trump.

00:00:04.000 Trump has himself a very Twitter weekend, and Americans battle over masks and social distancing.

00:00:08.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:09.000 This is the Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:10.000 Well, I hope that you guys had a wonderful Memorial Day weekend.

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00:00:25.000 Well, there's nothing like coming back from a weekend where you consider the sacrifices made by so many on behalf of the freedoms of this country to realize that everything has gotten stupider. 0.97

00:00:34.000 Somehow everything has gotten stupider and worse over time. 0.98

00:00:36.000 It just, it continues to get stupider and worse, like without end and without cease. 0.99

00:00:41.000 So I think to begin, We need to talk a little bit about Joe Biden last week. 0.99

00:00:46.000 Why?

00:00:47.000 Because it really has something to say about the state of the nation.

00:00:50.000 Because we saw a series of stories over the weekend that had to do with race in America.

00:00:55.000 And we should all be able to agree, I've always been sort of puzzled by the notion that we can't all agree on the basics here.

00:01:01.000 Here are the basics.

00:01:02.000 The basics here, most Americans are good-hearted and not racist.

00:01:05.000 Also, there are some racists. 0.74

00:01:07.000 And there are people who are also just giant jackasses who do things that appear to be racist but may not actually be racist. 0.99

00:01:12.000 They might just be jackasses. 0.98

00:01:14.000 These all seem like fairly commonsensical things. 0.97

00:01:17.000 Also, if you're going to blame an institution for being racist, you should be able to cite the rules of the institution that discriminate against somebody.

00:01:24.000 Also, if somebody within an institution acts outside the scope of authority and does something racist and or bad, that person should lose their job.

00:01:32.000 All of these things I think we should all be able to agree on because this is just called basic human decency at this point.

00:01:37.000 Well, all of this has broken freshly into public view because Joe Biden last week decided to invoke the race issue once more.

00:01:46.000 And this ties into a broader discussion about race in America.

00:01:49.000 And that is putting all the commonsensical stuff aside.

00:01:52.000 Putting aside the ability of all of us to agree on most of the things that I just said, the basic idea here is that America is at root racist, that most Americans are not in fact good-hearted, that deep inside the heart of most Americans is an unspoken racism, is a bias against black Americans, and that every story that demonstrates bias is an indicator of the great evil that is America, and every story that indicates non-bias is an outlier.

00:02:17.000 What you see as the common and what you see as the outlier is almost flipped in this particular view of America.

00:02:23.000 Okay, so as you'll recall, last week, when last we left our story, before you had a Memorial Day weekend, Joe Biden had gotten himself in trouble.

00:02:30.000 Why?

00:02:31.000 Well, he went on a show called The Breakfast Club.

00:02:32.000 He was talking to a host called Charlamagne Than God, and the vice president and the presidential front runner, Joe Biden, he said that you're not black if you support President Trump, or even if you have to think about whether to support President Trump.

00:02:47.000 Listen, you gotta come see us when you come to New York, VP Biden.

00:02:50.000 I will.

00:02:51.000 It's a long way until November.

00:02:52.000 We got more questions.

00:02:54.000 You got more questions. 0.93

00:02:55.000 But I tell you, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black. 0.90

00:03:02.000 Okay, now that got him in all sorts of trouble, at least for a brief moment in time.

00:03:06.000 And then everybody moved on with their lives because Democrats decided this was not in fact a bad thing to say.

00:03:10.000 In fact, what Biden said, it may have been kind of rough, but the reality is that what he was saying was basically good.

00:03:15.000 It was basically okay.

00:03:16.000 So you got two different angles here.

00:03:18.000 One was that This was not a big deal.

00:03:20.000 We should stop talking about Biden's gap.

00:03:22.000 So here's a montage of Democrats over the weekend basically suggesting there's nothing to see here, that when Joe Biden suggests that if you're a black Republican, you're not actually black, that that's not a big deal.

00:03:30.000 Here's a giant montage of people ranging from Val Demings to other characters on CNN talking about the non-story that is Joe Biden's comment here.

00:03:41.000 The president shouldn't have said it.

00:03:42.000 He apologized for it.

00:03:44.000 But I really think the gall and the nerve of President Trump.

00:03:50.000 I believe that Joe Biden was incorrect in saying the statement, you ain't black.

00:03:57.000 But I also believe that his apology was sufficient.

00:04:00.000 That apology was given swiftly.

00:04:02.000 He was saying, I'm sorry.

00:04:03.000 I was being too cavalier.

00:04:04.000 I apologize.

00:04:05.000 To his credit, Joe Biden recognized within minutes that he had gotten carried away.

00:04:10.000 I think he has apologized and he should have apologized.

00:04:13.000 It was like, you know, one of those jokes that just falls flat.

00:04:17.000 Okay, so when people were playing this as a joke, it was no big deal.

00:04:19.000 Jonathan Capehart at the Washington Post today says that it's a joke.

00:04:22.000 That was Jade Johnson saying it's a joke, and Michelle Sindoor saying that it's a joke. 0.99

00:04:25.000 Everybody basically saying it's a joke.

00:04:26.000 Now, when Trump tells a joke, it's not a joke.

00:04:28.000 When Joe Biden doesn't tell a joke, it is a joke, is sort of the way this works.

00:04:32.000 But underlying a lot of this is the basic perception in radical left circles and among many of the intelligentsia in the mainstream media that basically Joe Biden was right.

00:04:40.000 When Joe Biden says you're not legitimately black, unless you vote for a Democrat, that he is basically correct. 1.00

00:04:45.000 And I think that this viewpoint is worth exploring because I do think that it animates a lot of our politics today.

00:04:49.000 The attempt to see all of politics in terms of racial verity.

00:04:54.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

00:04:56.000 Because again, I think that there are two ways of viewing politics of race.

00:04:59.000 One is with certain baseline commonsensical understandings.

00:05:03.000 And one is that everything is seen through the prism of America is inherently bad.

00:05:06.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:06:16.000 So, let's look at this perspective.

00:06:18.000 So, there are a couple of people who just said the quiet part out loud.

00:06:21.000 And the quiet part is that Joe Biden is actually right.

00:06:23.000 The one Joe Biden says that Black people who don't vote for him are not Black, that he's actually right, is Nikole Hannah-Jones, who is one of the chief, one of the leaders of the 1619 Project. 1.00

00:06:33.000 She's won the Pulitzer Prize for an essay that had some good parts, but was horribly fact-checked and just told open lies about the state of America and about the history of America.

00:06:43.000 She tweeted out, There is a difference between being politically black and being racially black.

00:06:47.000 I'm not defending anyone, but we all know this and should stop pretending that we don't.

00:06:51.000 And people responded to her and said, well, I'm black and I'm Republican, so what are you talking about?

00:06:55.000 And she said, well, if you don't know, I won't tell you, which is always the mark of somebody who has a lot of faith in their own statements here.

00:07:02.000 She ended up deleting this tweet because, of course, it was pretty humiliating to the New York Times that there's a difference between being politically black and being racially black.

00:07:08.000 Jemele Hill, who used to be on ESPN, now I believe she is with The Ringer, she tweeted out the issue wasn't what Joe Biden said because it was accurate.

00:07:16.000 The issue is that it came from Biden.

00:07:17.000 It was also clearly a joke that didn't land.

00:07:19.000 I'm wondering where all this outrage was yesterday when you all president decided his public devotion to a declared his public devotion to a Nazi sympathizer.

00:07:26.000 I, you know.

00:07:27.000 Okay, so anyway, that's Jemele Hill, fairly typical.

00:07:30.000 The issue wasn't what Joe Biden said because it was accurate.

00:07:32.000 So I want to actually take this view seriously because I think that this view is worth taking seriously considering so much of it dominates our public debate.

00:07:39.000 So I think that there are a few things we need to consider.

00:07:42.000 One is race does not decide politics, obviously.

00:07:45.000 The level of melanin in your skin does not determine whether you are a Democrat or Republican.

00:07:50.000 It is also true that you could make the argument that certain policies are better for black Americans and certain policies are worse for black Americans.

00:07:55.000 And you could do this about any group. 0.80

00:07:56.000 You can say certain policies are better for gay Americans, certain policies are worse for gay Americans.

00:08:00.000 But how people decide on which values they perceive to be important in politics really does not have to be decided by race.

00:08:08.000 So for example, let's say that there's a policy that you think is good for black Americans like affirmative action, but you also believe that this comes along with a lot of democratic baggage that you don't agree with.

00:08:16.000 And so you vote Republican instead, even if you agree with affirmative action.

00:08:19.000 Or let's say that you think that affirmative action may be good for a subset of Black Americans, but it is not generally good for Black Americans or good for America more broadly.

00:08:27.000 These are all calculations you can make. 0.98

00:08:28.000 So the basic idea that if you are Black and not a Democrat, that you are not Black is, of course, incredibly silly. 0.97

00:08:33.000 Clarence Thomas is presumably Republican. 0.97

00:08:35.000 The man grew up the grandson of a sharecropper after he didn't know who his father was.

00:08:39.000 Thomas Sowell grew up extraordinarily poor, lived in a segregated area.

00:08:43.000 There are plenty of Black Republicans who have Been fully black, right? 0.99

00:08:48.000 That statement is silly. 0.92

00:08:49.000 But there is a sense in which you could perceive that voting for a particular party would call your self-perception of race into question.

00:09:00.000 Okay, the only way this would work is not based on differential value assessments of politics.

00:09:06.000 It would be when you are under existential threat.

00:09:08.000 And this explains why so much of democratic rhetoric, why so much of wild leftist rhetoric is about the idea That voting is not about prioritization of values or costs and benefits of particular policies.

00:09:19.000 It's about survival.

00:09:21.000 Because the truth is that for black Americans, for a long time, voting was about survival.

00:09:25.000 If you were a black American and you were voting in favor of Democrats who were keeping you segregated in 1956 Alabama, There's a good case to be made that you are not thinking about your own race properly, right? 0.61

00:09:36.000 And that would be true of any race.

00:09:37.000 If you're a race that is under the threat of extermination, the threat of extinction, the threat of open discrimination, not covert, not implied open discrimination. 0.91

00:09:47.000 If you voted for somebody who said black people are inferior, Right?

00:09:50.000 It wasn't like there was another and it wasn't like there were no other choices or something. 0.92

00:09:54.000 Okay, then you could see somebody like Nicole Hannah-Jones saying, okay, well, that's, you're not being politically black, meaning your group is under actual threat.

00:10:01.000 And therefore you have to vote like your group is under actual threat.

00:10:04.000 The problem is that in America right now, black Americans are not under actual threat from political group.

00:10:09.000 Now that does not mean that there aren't individual instances of racism.

00:10:13.000 And one of the things that we need to go back to the commonsensical view of is that we all have the ability to call out instances of racism when we see them.

00:10:20.000 So, for example, over the weekend, there was a woman who trended on Twitter because a tape came out of her calling the police on a black man.

00:10:31.000 This video was put out by a person named Melody Cooper.

00:10:35.000 Cooper tweeted, Okay, when Karens take a walk with their dogs off leash in the famous Bramble in New York Central Park where it is clearly posted on signs that dogs must be leashed at all times and someone like my brother, an avid birder, politely asks her to put her dog on the leash, then she calls the cops.

00:10:50.000 So here is the video of this woman.

00:10:53.000 And this can fairly be said to be racist.

00:10:56.000 I mean, what she's doing here seems to be a pretty obvious instance of racism. 0.98

00:10:59.000 So this black man says to her, put your dog on the leash, according to him.

00:11:05.000 And then she basically threatens to call the cops. 1.00

00:11:08.000 And not only does she threaten to call the cops, what's amazing about this is she is imputing to the police her own level of racism. 0.57

00:11:14.000 Because she says, I'm going to call the cops and I'm going to tell them that an African-American man is threatening my life. 1.00

00:11:19.000 Assuming, presumably, that the police being brutal, vicious racists at the NYPD are going to arrive and immediately just shoot the black guy. 0.99

00:11:24.000 Which, of course, there's no evidence of. 0.98

00:11:26.000 So here is a little bit of the video.

00:11:28.000 This is a racist incident.

00:11:29.000 This is a woman being a racist. 1.00

00:11:30.000 She probably doesn't even perceive herself as a racist because she's probably a good Upper West Side liberal. 0.99

00:11:35.000 But this is about as racist as it gets.

00:11:36.000 Here she is.

00:11:38.000 Sir, I'm asking you to stop.

00:11:39.000 Please don't come close to me.

00:11:41.000 Sir, I'm asking you to stop recording me.

00:11:42.000 Please don't come close to me.

00:11:43.000 Please take your phone off me.

00:11:44.000 Please don't come close to me.

00:11:45.000 And I'm taking a picture and calling the cops.

00:11:47.000 Please call the cops. 0.87

00:11:49.000 Please call the cops. 0.97

00:11:50.000 I'm going to tell them there's an African-American man threatening my life. 1.00

00:11:53.000 Please tell them whatever you like. 0.54

00:11:55.000 There is an African-American man.

00:11:56.000 I am in Central Park.

00:11:58.000 He is recording me and threatening myself and my dog.

00:12:03.000 I'm sorry, I can't hear you either.

00:12:08.000 I'm being threatened by a man in the Ramble.

00:12:10.000 Please send the cops immediately!

00:12:12.000 Okay, and she's getting hysterical. 0.96

00:12:14.000 Meanwhile, she's collaring the dog.

00:12:15.000 By the way, the dog ended up being taken away from her by the shelter that saw this video because she's grabbing the dog without the leash.

00:12:22.000 She's grabbing it by the collar to subdue it. 1.00

00:12:24.000 When the police arrived, only the woman remained on the scene, according to the police.

00:12:28.000 Melody and Christian Cooper did not return messages seeking comment on Monday night.

00:12:32.000 So Christian Cooper is the name of the man.

00:12:35.000 He put out an account, and he explained that basically she was making a false report to the police.

00:12:41.000 So, according to the New York Daily News, according to the New York Daily News, on Monday night, a firm for which the woman is believed to have worked, Franklin Templeton, tweeted a statement she'd been placed on administrative leave while they investigated the incident.

00:12:53.000 The dog rescue organization in which she was involved, Abandoned Angels Cocker Spaniel, said on its Facebook page she had voluntarily surrendered the rescue pup.

00:13:01.000 She apparently has now apologized for the situation.

00:13:06.000 I sincerely and humbly apologize to anyone who saw this, especially to that man.

00:13:14.000 His family was unacceptable.

00:13:15.000 I humbly and fully apologize to everyone who's seen that video, everyone that's been offended, everyone who thinks of me in a lower light.

00:13:19.000 I understand why they do.

00:13:20.000 I've come to realize, especially today, that I think of the police as a protection agency, and unfortunately, this has caused me to realize there's so many people in this country that don't have that luxury.

00:13:29.000 She said that her entire life is being destroyed right now because she's put on administrative leave.

00:13:33.000 She said, I'm not a racist.

00:13:34.000 I did not mean to harm that man in any way.

00:13:37.000 The NYPD first deputy commissioner, Benjamin Tucker, told WPIX 11 Tuesday, the department isn't looking to charge the dog owner.

00:13:43.000 He said, we're not going to prosecute that.

00:13:45.000 We have bigger fish to fry.

00:13:45.000 The DA would not prosecute.

00:13:46.000 It's not even clear it would be actionable.

00:13:48.000 It's hard to understand why she did what she did.

00:13:49.000 The fact she invoked race is disturbing.

00:13:51.000 She's got a dog. 0.98

00:13:52.000 The science of the dog must be leash.

00:13:53.000 And in effect, she was the problem.

00:13:56.000 So again, basically he requested, according to Melody Cooper, that she leash her dog and apparently she went nuts on him and then he started videotaping her to document the exchange.

00:14:08.000 Again, the part of this that seems racist is that she keeps saying that he's an African-American man and she's going to call in the cops to take care of this African-American man.

00:14:15.000 Seems to sort of be the implication.

00:14:17.000 So I think that this woman should be doxxed online. 1.00

00:14:20.000 No, I don't.

00:14:21.000 I think that we can all see the racism.

00:14:22.000 I think that she is going to be ostracized from her social circles.

00:14:25.000 I don't think it's necessary for everybody online to pile on to demonstrate their virtue signaling.

00:14:29.000 But again, this is an example of a fairly well-documented racist incident, and everybody basically agrees.

00:14:35.000 Right, because when things aren't well documented, everybody basically agrees.

00:14:39.000 I'll give you another example.

00:14:40.000 There's a story from the Associated Press today.

00:14:42.000 A black man has died in Minneapolis police custody after video shared online from a bystander showed a white officer kneeling on his neck during an arrest as he pleaded that he couldn't breathe.

00:14:49.000 His death, which occurred Monday night after a struggle with police officers, was under investigation by the FBI and state agents.

00:14:54.000 Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo, speaking to reporters on Tuesday morning, was asked about the use of the knee on the man's neck during the arrest.

00:15:02.000 Arradondo said we clearly have policies in place regarding placing someone under control.

00:15:06.000 And he said that this will be an investigation that they do internally.

00:15:10.000 Apparently, somebody was called to investigate a report of a forgery at a business, which I didn't even realize was a thing.

00:15:14.000 Like, how do you stop a forgery in progress?

00:15:16.000 Police found a man believed to be in his 40s matching a suspect's description in his car.

00:15:20.000 According to the police, he was ordered to step from the car.

00:15:22.000 After he got out, he physically resisted officers.

00:15:25.000 Officers were able to get the suspect into handcuffs and noted he appeared to be suffering medical distress.

00:15:29.000 He was taken by ambulance to the Hennepin County Medical Center.

00:15:32.000 He died a short time later.

00:15:33.000 The name of the officer seen kneeling on his neck was not immediately released.

00:15:36.000 Apparently, he kept saying over and over that he couldn't breathe and people were saying he needed to get off his neck because he can't breathe.

00:15:41.000 Okay, so this is an incident where it's not clear whether it is racist or just police incompetence.

00:15:45.000 Whatever it is, they're gonna get to the bottom of it and someone's probably gonna get prosecuted.

00:15:49.000 Okay, so again, this would be an instance where everyone basically agrees.

00:15:53.000 Right, so, the common sense view of this is that America is, overall, not a racist place.

00:15:59.000 That when people are racist, and there's video of it, people go nuts on Twitter, on social media, it becomes a national story.

00:16:05.000 That when an incident happens in Minneapolis, there's a full investigation, and there should be.

00:16:09.000 That when there's a cover-up, people are gonna lose their jobs in the Ahmaud Arbery case over in Georgia.

00:16:13.000 I promise you, that DA's, the original DA is gonna be, maybe, I mean, if there was corruption hauled up on charges, and people are being tried for murder, So what does that say about the state of America?

00:16:22.000 Well, it says that Joe Biden is wrong, right?

00:16:23.000 Because black Americans are not under existential threat from Republicans.

00:16:27.000 The argument that Joe Biden was innately making, which is that black Americans have to vote for him because they are under existential threat from Republicans, that's not true.

00:16:35.000 But that's not stopping the media from pushing A continued narrative that is absolutely free of common sense.

00:16:41.000 And that's particularly true when it comes to COVID-19.

00:16:42.000 And that's the next move in COVID-19.

00:16:44.000 I've been predicting for literally months that this is the direction the media were going to move, that eventually they would try to racialize COVID-19, even though it's hitting everybody, particularly older people.

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00:18:01.000 So as I say, the media have tried to take the underlying Joe Biden narrative, which is that if you are Republican, you are threatening the lives of black people and then extend that into COVID-19 because Donald Trump is president.

00:18:12.000 If Barack Obama were president, Let me just explain.

00:18:15.000 If Barack Obama were president, there would still be a disproportionate number of black and Hispanic Americans dying.

00:18:19.000 Some of that would be for obvious medical reasons, namely that obesity is a massive issue.

00:18:26.000 It is particularly large.

00:18:27.000 It's huge among whites.

00:18:28.000 It's even bigger among minorities in America.

00:18:30.000 And obesity is a massive confound when it comes to COVID-19.

00:18:34.000 Also, there's an article from Fiona Mitchell over in The Lancet, which is, again, kind of the medical journal of record, Talking about how vitamin D supplementation is a key here, that people who do not get enough vitamin D have been experiencing serious symptoms of coronavirus.

00:18:51.000 Not only does that mean that if you're older and you don't get enough vitamin D, that it could have a real problem for you.

00:18:58.000 According to The Lancet, quote, data from the UK office for national statistics shows that black people in England and Wales are more than four times more likely to die from COVID-19 than are white people.

00:19:08.000 Is that because of American racism?

00:19:09.000 So what we keep hearing from the media, as we'll see, is that black Americans are dying at a higher rate than white Americans because black Americans were victims of racism and continue to be victims of racism.

00:19:18.000 There's an entire article in the New York Times today blaming slavery for differential rates of death from COVID-19.

00:19:24.000 Um, then what about Britain?

00:19:26.000 Why exactly are black people in England and Wales four times more likely to die from COVID-19?

00:19:30.000 Well, the Lancet suggests black and minority ethnic people who are more likely to have vitamin D deficiency because they have darker skin seem to be worse affected than white people by COVID-19.

00:19:38.000 So in other words, medical reasons would likely explain the differential.

00:19:42.000 This, by the way, is also true of maternal mortality.

00:19:44.000 Not with regard to vitamin D, but with regard to obesity rates and premature birth.

00:19:48.000 Maternal mortality rates are very, very different between black and white in America.

00:19:51.000 They're also vastly different in Europe.

00:19:53.000 Nobody ever seems to go across the water and notice the racial disparity, which would seemingly remove American racism as the unique cause of these sorts of disparities.

00:20:02.000 That doesn't stop the New York Times from running a piece today called, It's Not Obesity, It's Slavery.

00:20:06.000 We know why COVID-19 is killing so many black people. 1.00

00:20:08.000 So you're going to have to explain why slavery, which technically entered the United States in 1865, is going to have to do with the differential rate.

00:20:17.000 I mean, 1865, last I checked, was 160 years ago.

00:20:20.000 You're going to have to explain to me why that has to do with differential rates.

00:20:26.000 And Sabrina Strings doesn't really bother. 1.00

00:20:27.000 She just sort of says that it's not about obesity.

00:20:31.000 She says, Okay, you can make this argument in like 1880.

00:20:34.000 You can even make this argument during Jim Crow.

00:20:37.000 You can make this argument in 1970, probably.

00:20:38.000 You can't make this argument in 2020.

00:20:39.000 Okay, you can make this argument in like 1880.

00:20:48.000 You can even make this argument during Jim Crow.

00:20:50.000 You can make this argument in 1970, probably.

00:20:52.000 You can't make this argument in 2020.

00:20:54.000 It is now 55 years since the Civil Rights Act.

00:20:57.000 At some point, you're going to have to say, maybe people should just eat healthier.

00:21:01.000 Maybe personal habits have something to do with differentials.

00:21:06.000 Because let's be real about this.

00:21:07.000 If you are a healthy young black person, you're dying of this at the same rate as a healthy young white person. 0.93

00:21:13.000 If you're an unhealthy white person, you're also dying of higher rates.

00:21:15.000 In other words, looking at the racial confounders as though that is the key indicator is not right.

00:21:20.000 Looking at the medical confounds is the key indicator would be right. 0.97

00:21:22.000 But this plays into the Joe Biden narrative, which is that if he were president, black people would not be dying at a higher rate, which of course is silly. 0.87

00:21:29.000 And Barack Obama would make the same argument. 0.58

00:21:31.000 And then if we're pointed out that, by the way, people are going to die at the same rates regardless because the situation on the ground is the situation on the ground, then you just blame historic racism, which of course is connected with the evils of today's Donald Trump.

00:21:44.000 You play this intellectually dishonest game where you say slavery equals Donald Trump.

00:21:48.000 Therefore, slavery led to this.

00:21:50.000 Therefore, Donald Trump is leading to it right now.

00:21:53.000 This is why this New York Times piece argues, Despite the lack of clarity surrounding findings, one interpretation of the disparities is the idea that black people are unduly obese, which is seen as a driver of other chronic illnesses and is believed to put black people at high risk for serious complications from COVID-19.

00:22:06.000 These claims have received intense media attention.

00:22:09.000 According to CDC, 42.2% of white Americans and 49.6% of African Americans are obese.

00:22:15.000 Researchers have yet to clarify how a 7 percentage point disparity in obesity prevalence translates to a 240% to 700% disparity in fatalities.

00:22:24.000 Experts have raised questions about the rush to implicate obesity, and especially severe obesity.

00:22:30.000 Well, what about the other issues?

00:22:33.000 The vitamin D issues?

00:22:34.000 What about the fact that diabetes tends to run higher in the black community?

00:22:37.000 What about eating habits?

00:22:38.000 Not everybody who is obese has exactly the same sort of medical issues.

00:22:42.000 In other words, trying to blame this on slavery is a bit of a stretch.

00:22:46.000 And then, of course, this person in the New York Times blames the 1619 Project.

00:22:49.000 So this is the goal here.

00:22:50.000 The goal is that in order to target Republicans as the root of all evil, you're going to suggest that slavery is the root of all evil and that every outlier, every bad situation in America, every racist situation in America is an indicator of deep American evil, not a situation in which you can look and you can actually see in real time as good-hearted Americans on all sides of the aisle condemn the racism.

00:23:13.000 It's easier to move into the idea that America is deeply racist because people are dying at differential rates of COVID-19.

00:23:20.000 We're going to get to more of this in just one second because this would provide Donald Trump with an opportunity to be a unifying figure considering the Democrats right now, including Joe Biden, are trying to divide Americans along racial lines in a time when we have a pandemic that is hitting everybody and when everybody is scared and we've had the greatest lockdown in American history.

00:23:36.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:24:41.000 OK, so Democrats have been forced to focus on the race narrative again because Democrats are worried that the economy is going to recover.

00:24:48.000 That's not me making some sort of speculative argument.

00:24:50.000 That's an article in Politico.

00:24:52.000 It is called the general election scenario that Democrats are dreading.

00:24:55.000 Written by Ryan Lizza and Daniel Lipman, neither one of them a right winger.

00:24:58.000 In early April, Jason Furman, a top economist in the Obama administration, now a professor at Harvard, was speaking via Zoom to a large bipartisan group of top officials from both parties.

00:25:06.000 The economy had just been shut down, unemployment was spiking, and some policymakers were predicting an era worse than the Great Depression.

00:25:12.000 The economic carnage seemed likely to doom President Donald Trump's chances at re-election.

00:25:16.000 Furman, tapped to give the opening presentation, looked into his screen of poorly lit boxes of frightened wonks and made a startling claim.

00:25:22.000 We're about to see the best economic data we've seen in the history of this country.

00:25:25.000 The former Cabinet Secretaries and Federal Reserve Chairs in the Zoom boxes were confused.

00:25:30.000 Furman said everyone looked puzzled, as though I'd misspoken.

00:25:32.000 He then laid out a detailed case for why the months preceding the November election could offer Trump the chance to brag truthfully about the most explosive monthly employment numbers and GDP growth ever.

00:25:40.000 This makes perfect sense.

00:25:41.000 If you artificially shut down the economy, and then the economy springs back to life, you're going to see massive numbers, right?

00:25:46.000 If the economy dumps 40%, and then month on month you see a 10% increase, those are going to look like massively explosive numbers.

00:25:53.000 A former White House Obama official says, quote, this is my big worry.

00:25:57.000 Asked about the level of concern, Montauk Party officials said it's high, high, high.

00:26:02.000 Okay, first of all, you shouldn't be concerned about the recovery of the economy.

00:26:04.000 You should be celebratory about the recovery of the economy.

00:26:07.000 The fact that Democrats are concerned that there may be a V-shaped recovery.

00:26:11.000 is pretty unfortunate.

00:26:13.000 It is not only unfortunate, it also means that people are suspicious that Democrats are going to artificially tamp down the economy in order to ensure that Donald Trump isn't reelected.

00:26:21.000 I mean, it's hard not to draw that conclusion when you're saying you're deeply worried that the economy may recover.

00:26:26.000 In a V-shaped recovery, the economy would recover much faster than during the Great Recession.

00:26:31.000 Furman said the Trump argument will be he's producing the fastest job growth and fastest economic growth in history.

00:26:35.000 If he has any ability to do nonce, he will say, we're not there yet.

00:26:38.000 Re-elect me to finish the job.

00:26:39.000 The Biden argument will be the unemployment rate is still 12%.

00:26:41.000 Even with those millions of jobs, we are still down 15 million jobs and we need new economic policies.

00:26:48.000 If you see it as a massive recovery that is damaging to Democrats.

00:26:52.000 So this is why a lot of Democrats are moving into the sort of territory of race first, of race first.

00:27:00.000 Okay, well, but that leads to, that gives President Trump a pretty good opening here, right?

00:27:04.000 All President Trump has to do to win re-election.

00:27:06.000 And there are some polls out, by the way, from CNBC showing that President Trump is still doing fairly well in the swing states.

00:27:13.000 In a hypothetical matchup among all the battleground voters surveyed, he has a 48-46 lead over Joe Biden, this is according to CNBC on May 20th.

00:27:22.000 41-32 edge among independents.

00:27:24.000 Democrats and Republicans in Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin basically have Trump running a little bit ahead.

00:27:31.000 So that is a narrow lead, and he's leading among independents, and he is leading Biden 51 to 40 in terms of who would do a better job handling the economy.

00:27:38.000 That seems like a pretty solid base to run on.

00:27:40.000 When you add on top of that the widespread American perception, the widespread American agreement that we are not at root a racist country, that America is actually filled with good-hearted people who are willing to call out racism, and the Democrats' racial narrative starts to fall flat too.

00:27:54.000 So yesterday was Memorial Day and President Trump spoke on Memorial Day and he talked about the National Anthem and the National Anthem uniting us.

00:27:59.000 Now, if President Trump were a unifying figure, this would be a great pitch.

00:28:02.000 It would.

00:28:03.000 Because the fact is that most Americans still believe in the National Anthem and the American flag.

00:28:06.000 And the fact that so many Democrats have gone out of their way to express sympathy for people who kneel for the National Anthem is a big electoral loser for them and is not a winner for them.

00:28:15.000 Here's President Trump talking about this yesterday.

00:28:17.000 Every time we sing our anthem, every time its rousing chorus swells our hearts with pride, we renew the eternal bonds of loyalty to our fallen heroes.

00:28:29.000 We think of the soldiers who spend their final heroic moments on distant battlefields to keep us safe at home.

00:28:38.000 We remember the young Americans who never got the chance to grow old, but whose legacy will outlive us all.

00:28:47.000 OK, so all of that is good stuff.

00:28:48.000 And then President Trump yesterday, of course, when he laid a wreath at Arlington, the media totally miscovered this because Trump then went golfing a little bit later in the day.

00:28:56.000 And so they showed pictures of Joe Biden at Memorial Day at a local veterans memorial, and then they juxtaposed that with Trump golfing.

00:29:02.000 But Trump did go to lay a wreath at Arlington.

00:29:05.000 National Cemetery.

00:29:06.000 People were giving him flack because he wasn't wearing a mask.

00:29:07.000 He was outdoors.

00:29:08.000 He was six feet from everybody else.

00:29:09.000 That was not really the issue.

00:29:10.000 We'll get to the masking issue in just a second, which has become shockingly partisan.

00:29:13.000 But the president did go to Arlington yesterday.

00:29:16.000 OK, so all of this would be a good opportunity for Trump, right?

00:29:19.000 Just politically speaking.

00:29:20.000 All of this is a good opportunity for Trump. 0.88

00:29:22.000 Joe Biden is trying to claim that Republicans are an existential threat to black Americans.

00:29:26.000 That they literally, I mean, that is the underlying message that he is providing, echoed by Nikole Hannah-Jones, echoed by Jemele Hill, right?

00:29:32.000 That is the message.

00:29:33.000 And on top of that, they are deeply worried about the economy.

00:29:36.000 So all Trump has to do is say, listen, we brought you the best economy in American history up until coronavirus.

00:29:42.000 When we come out of this, there will be a spike in the economy.

00:29:44.000 It's going to be great.

00:29:45.000 What you don't need is fundamental remaking of American society, right?

00:29:47.000 That's his reelection pitch.

00:29:49.000 Instead, the president has Twitter. 0.96

00:29:52.000 And I gotta say, it's just, it's imbecility of the highest order on a political and moral level to do with his Twitter what he does. 1.00

00:30:00.000 It is stupid. 1.00

00:30:01.000 It is stupid. 1.00

00:30:02.000 I understand a lot of people like the Twitter. 1.00

00:30:04.000 I don't, frankly, care.

00:30:06.000 I don't care.

00:30:07.000 Because the people who love his Twitter are not the people who are not gonna go to the polls anyway.

00:30:11.000 You're not the people he needs to win.

00:30:12.000 You're gonna vote for him anyway.

00:30:14.000 You know what's not useful?

00:30:15.000 In a time when you are running against a deeply divisive opponent like Joe Biden.

00:30:19.000 And he is!

00:30:19.000 He's deeply divisive.

00:30:20.000 He's trying to run as a unifier.

00:30:21.000 He is not.

00:30:22.000 Barack Obama was a deeply disunifying president.

00:30:26.000 In a time when Democrats are openly worried about an economic recovery, for Donald Trump to get on Twitter and then fulminate over Joe Scarborough and suggest that Joe Scarborough is a full-on murderer, Question, how in the world is that useful?

00:30:41.000 How?

00:30:42.000 And not only useful, how is it moral?

00:30:43.000 How is it decent?

00:30:45.000 What's the pitch?

00:30:46.000 Make me the pitch.

00:30:47.000 Give me the elevator pitch for Donald Trump needs to tweet about Joe Scarborough murdering an intern.

00:30:53.000 Like, seriously, what is the actual argument here?

00:30:57.000 So between that, he had a hell of a Twitter weekend.

00:31:00.000 You're the president of the United States in the middle of one of the worst situations in American history.

00:31:05.000 Grow the F up.

00:31:06.000 Grow up.

00:31:07.000 Do better.

00:31:08.000 And I understand there are people out there saying, well, he's never going to do better.

00:31:11.000 This is what he is.

00:31:12.000 Got it.

00:31:13.000 That does not relieve you or me of the obligation to call out immorality when I see it.

00:31:18.000 Not only immorality, political malpractice.

00:31:21.000 On the highest level. 0.95

00:31:22.000 Because if you believe in a lot of the Donald Trump agenda, in terms of stuff he's doing policy-wise, you need to root for him to stop this bullcrap. 0.98

00:31:29.000 It's insanity. 0.80

00:31:30.000 And we can get to more of this in just one second.

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00:32:58.000 Okay, so we're gonna get to President Trump's busy and insane Twitter weekend, a complete, not only waste of time, completely counterproductive.

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00:34:17.000 So President Trump had himself a hell of a Twitter weekend, as I say.

00:34:23.000 This would be a time for unifying.

00:34:25.000 He's got Joe Biden living in a basement, not able to string together a sentence, and claiming that black people are under existential threat because of the same Joe Biden who suggested that Mitt Romney was going to re-enslave black people in 2012.

00:34:34.000 So this is nothing new for Joe Biden.

00:34:38.000 And so what does Trump decide to do?

00:34:40.000 Well, he decides to retweet a bunch of stuff.

00:34:43.000 So what did he retweet?

00:34:44.000 Well, he retweeted a guy named John Stahl, who I've never heard of, saying, So, number one, I doubt that Trump even read the entire tweet.

00:34:49.000 Because that's what he does.

00:34:49.000 Right?

00:34:50.000 I'm thinking they must have called the same 1,000 people from 2016 that said that HRC, the bleep, was up 68%.

00:34:58.000 So number one, I doubt that Trump even read the entire tweet, right?

00:35:03.000 He'll tweet like the first half of the tweet.

00:35:03.000 Because that's what he does.

00:35:05.000 HRC, the word is skank there, by the way.

00:35:08.000 So he retweets that, which is always a great look.

00:35:11.000 Then, he retweets John Stahl again.

00:35:14.000 I don't know why he was on this guy's account.

00:35:15.000 We just got a look at the official portrait for the self-proclaimed governor of Georgia.

00:35:18.000 She fought a tough race, kissed a lot of babies, visited every buffet restaurant in the state.

00:35:22.000 Joe will be a racist if he doesn't pick her. 0.92

00:35:23.000 So you got the president now calling Stacey Abrams fat, which is always an excellent, excellent look. 0.99

00:35:29.000 Then he decided, you know, it's a good idea.

00:35:31.000 I'm going to spend the entire weekend implying that Joe Scarborough murdered an intern.

00:35:36.000 So for people who didn't know this story, back when Joe Scarborough was in Congress, there was an intern in his office and she died in one of his congressional offices.

00:35:48.000 She died because she had an undiagnosed heart condition.

00:35:51.000 She had apparently some sort of heart attack and she banged her head on a desk and she died.

00:35:54.000 It's a really tragic story.

00:35:56.000 This led Donald Trump to tweet out, And then he links to truepundit.com.

00:36:10.000 And then he continues along these lines, A blow to her head.

00:36:14.000 Body found under his desk.

00:36:16.000 Left Congress suddenly.

00:36:17.000 Big topic of discussion in Florida. 0.99

00:36:18.000 And, he's a nutjob with bad ratings. 0.98

00:36:20.000 Keep digging. 0.98

00:36:21.000 Use forensic, geniuses.

00:36:22.000 Okay, that wasn't it.

00:36:24.000 This morning, he was back at it.

00:36:26.000 Was the President of the United States.

00:36:29.000 And just like he said, the opening of a cold case against psycho Joe Scarborough was not a Donald Trump original thought.

00:36:34.000 This has been going on for years, long before I joined the chorus.

00:36:36.000 In 2016, when Joe and his wacky future ex-wife Mika would endlessly interview me, I would always be thinking about whether or not Joe could have done such a horrible thing.

00:36:45.000 Maybe or maybe not, but I find Joe to be a total nutjob, and I knew him well, far better than most.

00:36:49.000 So many unanswered and obvious questions, but I won't bring them up now.

00:36:52.000 Law enforcement eventually will.

00:36:55.000 Question.

00:36:56.000 So here's the thing.

00:36:57.000 When Doc Brown fell off his toilet and hit his head on the sink, he invented the flux capacitor.

00:37:00.000 When Donald Trump fell off his toilet and hit his head on the sink, he just tweets.

00:37:03.000 Apparently. 0.97

00:37:04.000 What in the absolute F is this?

00:37:06.000 What is this?

00:37:08.000 What is this?

00:37:09.000 Seriously?

00:37:10.000 This led to the wonderful spectacle of the husband of the woman writing a letter to Jack Dorsey of Twitter saying, Mr. Dorsey, nearly 19 years ago, my wife, who had an undiagnosed heart condition, fell and hit her head on her desk at work.

00:37:23.000 She was found dead the next morning.

00:37:25.000 Her name is Lori K. Klausitis, and she was 28 years old when she died.

00:37:29.000 Her passing is the single most painful thing I've ever had to deal with in my 52 years and continues to haunt her parents and sister.

00:37:35.000 I have mourned my wife every day since her passing.

00:37:36.000 I have tried to honor her memory and our marriage.

00:37:38.000 As her husband, I feel one of my marital obligations is to protect her memory as I would have protected her in life.

00:37:43.000 There has been a constant barrage of falsehoods, half-truths, innuendo, and conspiracy theories since the day she died.

00:37:47.000 I realize this may sound like an exaggeration.

00:37:49.000 Unfortunately, it is the verifiable truth.

00:37:51.000 Because of this, I have struggled to move forward with my life.

00:37:54.000 The frequency, intensity, ugliness, and promulgation of these horrifying lies ever increases on the internet.

00:37:58.000 These conspiracy theorists, including most recently the President of the United States, continue to spread their violent misinformation on your platform, disparaging the memory of our wife and our marriage.

00:38:09.000 And then he asks Jack Dorsey to delete Trump's tweets.

00:38:13.000 Like, question.

00:38:14.000 How in the world is this useful?

00:38:16.000 How in the world is this useful?

00:38:18.000 Like, put aside the immorality of it.

00:38:19.000 It's obviously immoral to accuse people of murder without evidence.

00:38:22.000 It turns out to be a very, very immoral thing to do.

00:38:24.000 It also turns out that when you're accusing a woman who is married of having an affair with another man without any evidence, that's also a very ugly and terrible thing to do.

00:38:32.000 But put aside that, if you're a Republican and you're thinking you want Trump re-elected, This is political malpractice.

00:38:38.000 Speaking of political malpractice, President Trump decided to go after Jeff Sessions, his former Attorney General.

00:38:42.000 Now, let's just understand something.

00:38:45.000 Senator Sessions, okay, or Attorney General Sessions, he'd been a senator in Alabama.

00:38:49.000 When he first ran in Alabama, he ran a competitive race.

00:38:51.000 By the time he ran for re-election, for like the third time, Jeff Sessions had no opponents.

00:38:56.000 He was winning over two-thirds of the vote.

00:38:58.000 Now, Jeff Sessions was not available to run in the last senatorial election.

00:39:03.000 Instead, Alabama Republicans decided Roy Moore would be their candidate, a guy who allegedly was trolling the food courts for 14-year-olds when he was in his 30s.

00:39:13.000 And then he lost to Doug Jones, specifically because people don't like electing people who troll the food courts for 14-year-olds when they are 30 years old.

00:39:20.000 So Doug Jones, a Democrat, ended up representing Alabama.

00:39:23.000 That Alabama Senate seat is a debacle.

00:39:25.000 There's no way it should be blue.

00:39:27.000 All Trump has to do is just let Jeff Sessions go back to the Senate.

00:39:31.000 Now, there's another candidate in there named Tommy Tuberville, a former Auburn football coach.

00:39:36.000 Maybe he'll win.

00:39:37.000 Maybe he'll do great.

00:39:37.000 I don't know Tommy Tuberville very well.

00:39:39.000 I do know one thing.

00:39:40.000 Jeff Sessions has won that race like 11 times.

00:39:43.000 Jeff Sessions is a guaranteed shoe-in victory in Alabama.

00:39:46.000 That seat goes back to red.

00:39:48.000 And by the way, Jeff Sessions votes 100% of the time.

00:39:51.000 100% of the time with Donald Trump.

00:39:52.000 Jeff Sessions was the first major American political figure to endorse Donald Trump.

00:39:57.000 The first.

00:39:58.000 Not one of the first.

00:39:59.000 The first.

00:40:00.000 When no one was taking Trump seriously, Sessions did, on the basis of immigration policy alone.

00:40:04.000 I know that because I remember when he did it.

00:40:06.000 And I know Jeff Sessions.

00:40:07.000 And I know Stephen Miller.

00:40:08.000 And I know all the people who were involved.

00:40:10.000 So I remember when Sessions did that.

00:40:11.000 It was a big shock.

00:40:12.000 Because a lot of people thought Sessions might have endorsed Cruz.

00:40:15.000 So then he becomes Attorney General.

00:40:16.000 And by law, he has to recuse himself.

00:40:19.000 Well, Trump is very angry that Sessions ever accused himself.

00:40:22.000 He suggests that Jeff Sessions should have resigned.

00:40:24.000 Jeff Sessions offered to resign and Trump turned it down.

00:40:28.000 Jeff Sessions also didn't know that the Obama apparatus was still investigating the Trump administration when he took office.

00:40:34.000 Okay, so this has led Trump to tweet out Jeff Sessions over and over about how Jeff Sessions is bad. 1.00

00:40:39.000 This is so counterproductive and idiotic. 1.00

00:40:40.000 Again, I cannot believe how stupid this is. 1.00

00:40:43.000 Because he's not throwing over Jeff Sessions because Jeff Sessions isn't going to win the seat or vote with him. 1.00

00:40:46.000 He's throwing over Jeff Sessions because he can't put aside the petty personal slights.

00:40:50.000 Like, again, political malpractice.

00:40:52.000 You lose, right now, the Republicans are in serious danger of losing the Senate.

00:40:57.000 There's a very, very good shot that when January 2021 comes around, Joe Biden is sitting in the Oval Office, and he has a Democrat majority in the Senate, a Democrat majority willing to get rid of the filibuster, and he has a Democrat majority in the House.

00:41:09.000 And then how's all this gonna look?

00:41:11.000 Is all this gonna be just fun and games on Twitter?

00:41:14.000 How about when, how about if it turns out that Tommy Tuberville Who has not been supremely vetted.

00:41:20.000 Turns out to be vetted by the media in that Alabama race.

00:41:23.000 And Doug Jones wins a squeaker or something.

00:41:26.000 Okay, so Donald Trump decides he's gonna tweet out.

00:41:28.000 He says, Jeff, you had your chance and you blew it.

00:41:29.000 Recused yourself on day one.

00:41:30.000 You never told me of a problem and ran for the hills.

00:41:32.000 You had no courage and ruined many lives. 0.99

00:41:34.000 The dirty cops and others got caught by better and stronger people than you. 1.00

00:41:37.000 Hopefully this slime will pay a big You should drop out of the race and pray that super liberal Doug Jones and weakened pathetic puppet for crazy Nancy Pelosi and crying Chuck Schumer gets beaten badly. 0.99

00:41:47.000 He voted for impeachment based on zero. 1.00

00:41:49.000 Disgraced Alabama.

00:41:50.000 Coach Tommy Tuberville will be a great senator.

00:41:53.000 And then Trump went on national TV and trashed sessions again.

00:41:56.000 I mean, this is just, like, in terms of personal loyalty, forget about, like, the personal qualities it takes to be this disloyal to a human being who put his career on the line and became your Attorney General.

00:42:05.000 By the way, he was a good Attorney General, Jeff Sessions.

00:42:08.000 He was actually good at his job.

00:42:09.000 And he did the right thing in recusing himself.

00:42:11.000 He legally had to.

00:42:12.000 He did not have any other options.

00:42:14.000 Trump slammed Sessions again on national TV with Sheryl Atkinson.

00:42:19.000 Like, this is just... 0.99

00:42:22.000 Does he understand that he's President of the United States and he has a responsibility to his own voters not to do dumbass stuff? 0.98

00:42:27.000 Here's Trump. 0.99

00:42:28.000 Jeff Sessions was a disaster as Attorney General.

00:42:31.000 Should have never been Attorney General.

00:42:32.000 He's not qualified.

00:42:33.000 He's not mentally qualified to be Attorney General. 0.66

00:42:37.000 He was the biggest problem.

00:42:38.000 I mean, look, Jeff Sessions put people in place who were a disaster.

00:42:42.000 They took over.

00:42:44.000 They've always had the Department of Justice, but they kept it under Jeff Sessions.

00:42:50.000 And the whole thing, the Russian thing, is a total hoax. 1.00

00:42:53.000 Think of it.

00:42:54.000 They spent 40, 45 million dollars investigating him.

00:42:57.000 It took two and a half years.

00:42:58.000 They found nothing.

00:42:59.000 No collusion.

00:43:01.000 And then Ann Coulter, of course, came forth and she blasted Trump. 0.95

00:43:04.000 She's been long allied with Jeff Sessions on immigration.

00:43:07.000 She's almost solely immigration focused.

00:43:10.000 And she, of course, was one of the chief Trump backers in the early going.

00:43:13.000 She wrote an entire book called In Trump We Trust, which always goes to show you never substitute human for God in any sort of sentence.

00:43:20.000 It never goes well.

00:43:21.000 But she tweeted out the most disloyal actual bleep that has ever set foot in the Oval Office is trying to lose and take the Senate with him. 1.00

00:43:26.000 Another Roy Moore fiasco so he can blame someone else for his own mess.

00:43:30.000 So this is all just genius stuff.

00:43:31.000 It's genius stuff.

00:43:33.000 Again, the president has an opportunity here.

00:43:35.000 He had an opportunity here.

00:43:37.000 And he's blowing his opportunity.

00:43:38.000 Even the way that he tweets about COVID.

00:43:40.000 Listen, the president tweeted about COVID.

00:43:42.000 And again, I'm not trying to be unduly harsh with Trump.

00:43:44.000 I intend on voting for the man.

00:43:46.000 I want him to retain the presidency.

00:43:47.000 I don't want to see Joe Biden come in and push Medicare for all.

00:43:50.000 I don't want to see Joe Biden come in and continue to play the race card along the lines of the 1619 Project and allow all of Bernie Sanders' old staffers to take positions in the White House.

00:43:59.000 That's not what I'm looking for here.

00:44:01.000 So Donald Trump tweeted out over the weekend, great reviews on our handling of COVID-19, sometimes referred to as the China virus.

00:44:07.000 Ventilators testing, medical supply distribution.

00:44:08.000 We made a lot of governors look good and got no credit for doing.

00:44:11.000 Most importantly, we helped a lot of great people.

00:44:13.000 You might want to start with the, we helped a lot of great people, as opposed to great reviews.

00:44:18.000 This isn't a Broadway show, dude.

00:44:20.000 Also, like speaking of political malpractice, I've been saying for weeks, how is it that Trump and the White House team have not cut Basically an ad showing every Democratic governor saying they got what they needed from the White House.

00:44:31.000 How has that not been done yet?

00:44:32.000 How is that even possible?

00:44:34.000 So here's the reason why this is so frustrating. 0.99

00:44:37.000 Because as the country reopens, and as we move closer to something that looks like a recovery, we cannot be distracted with this kind of absolutely idiotic, insane, ridiculous, useless, I mean, I run out of thesaurus words here. 0.99

00:44:54.000 We cannot. 0.99

00:44:56.000 There's actual good news.

00:44:56.000 Because guess what?

00:44:58.000 There's actual good news happening right now.

00:45:00.000 And we're missing it. 1.00

00:45:01.000 Because we have to cover all this stupidity. 1.00

00:45:05.000 So, for example, piece of good news. 0.98

00:45:07.000 Scott Fauci points out COVID-19 testing in the United States continues to expand.

00:45:12.000 Positivity rate continues to decline.

00:45:14.000 So for all of the talk about how there are gonna be these massive spikes and we're gonna overwhelm the healthcare system again, not a lot of evidence of that.

00:45:21.000 Even Anthony Fauci, who was capped in lockdown five seconds ago, Anthony Fauci from the NIH, right, he says, we can't stay locked down forever.

00:45:28.000 In fact, it could be damaging if we stay locked down forever.

00:45:30.000 Welcome to the club, Dr. Fauci.

00:45:32.000 Depending upon the dynamics of the infection in the particular state, city, region, county that you're in, we certainly want to, in a cautious way, reopening.

00:45:45.000 We can't stay locked down for such a considerable period of time that you might do irreparable damage and have unintended consequences, including consequences for health.

00:45:57.000 So this, of course, is exactly right.

00:45:59.000 By the way, you know, there's evidence from The New York Times.

00:46:04.000 That people are not going to the emergency room when they need to go to the emergency room.

00:46:08.000 I know personally people who are not going to the emergency room when they need to go to the emergency room.

00:46:13.000 There are people who are not going in for transplants because they're afraid that they're going to get COVID and they're going to die if they go into the ER.

00:46:20.000 By the way, this is not right.

00:46:21.000 Hospitals are now encouraging you, if you need to go into the hospital, go into the hospital.

00:46:24.000 They have very good protective measures for the areas that have COVID.

00:46:27.000 They basically have COVID rooms and they have COVID areas of the hospital.

00:46:30.000 You're not going to be infected if you go into The general areas that are not COVID designated.

00:46:37.000 And as we now know, the fact is that the costs of the shutdown are extraordinarily large.

00:46:42.000 Scott Atlas has a good piece from Hoover Institute, along with John Burge, Ralph Keeney, and Alexander Lipton.

00:46:49.000 Over at the Hill, talking about the shutdowns.

00:46:53.000 John Burge, Professor at University of Chicago Booth School of Business.

00:46:56.000 Ralph Keeney, Professor Emeritus in Business at Duke University in Engineering.

00:46:59.000 Lipton is visiting Professor and Dean's Fellow at the Jerusalem Business School, talking about the economy coming back and how we need to reopen.

00:47:07.000 In other words, Trump has a re-election strategy here, and it's a very obvious and open re-election strategy.

00:47:11.000 And the fact that he continues to fulminate on Twitter about Joe Scarborough is just beyond reason.

00:47:16.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.

00:47:16.000 It's beyond reason.

00:47:19.000 So the media malpractice when it comes to COVID-19 continues apace.

00:47:28.000 Just because we're seeing increasing numbers of cases nationally does not mean that we are seeing an increased percentage of positives.

00:47:34.000 So as I mentioned before, Scott Gottlieb, former FDA commissioner, he tweeted out this morning that the national positivity rate on COVID-19 tests continues to decline, which is very, very good news.

00:47:43.000 We are not seeing a spike in terms of ICU care.

00:47:46.000 We're not seeing a spike in terms of deaths.

00:47:49.000 Maybe that'll trail a couple weeks from now.

00:47:51.000 But most importantly, we're not seeing our emergency rooms overwhelmed.

00:47:54.000 And we cannot continue this way.

00:47:57.000 There's a piece in The Hill by Scott Atlas and company talking about the costs of continued shutdown.

00:48:03.000 He says our governmental COVID-19 mitigation policy of broad societal lockdown focused on containing the spread of the disease at all costs instead of flattening the curve and preventing hospital overcrowding.

00:48:13.000 Although well-intentioned, the lockdown was imposed without consideration of its consequences beyond those directly from the pandemic.

00:48:19.000 The policies have created the greatest global economic disruption in history with trillions of dollars of lost economic output.

00:48:25.000 These financial losses have been falsely portrayed as purely economic.

00:48:28.000 To the contrary, using numerous National Institute of Health Public Access publications, CDC, and Bureau of Labor Statistics data, we calculate these policies will cause devastating non-economic consequences that will total millions of accumulated years of life lost in the United States, far beyond what the virus itself has caused.

00:48:45.000 Pandemics have afflicted mankind throughout human history. 0.92

00:48:48.000 So far, the current pandemic has produced almost 100,000 U.S.

00:48:50.000 deaths, but the reaction of a near-complete economic shutdown is unprecedented.

00:48:55.000 The lost economic output in the U.S.

00:48:56.000 alone is estimated to be 5% of GDP, or $1.1 trillion for every single month of the economic shutdown.

00:49:02.000 This lost income results in lost lives.

00:49:05.000 These incidents are particularly severe on the lower-income population.

00:49:08.000 They're more likely to lose their jobs.

00:49:09.000 Mortality rates are much higher for lower-income individuals.

00:49:14.000 Statistically, every $10 million to $24 million lost in U.S.

00:49:18.000 incomes results in one additional death.

00:49:20.000 One portion of this effect is through unemployment, which leads to an average increase in mortality of at least 60%.

00:49:25.000 That translates into 7,200 lives lost per month among the 36 million newly unemployed Americans, over 40% of whom are not expected to regain their jobs.

00:49:34.000 In addition, many small business owners are near financial collapse.

00:49:37.000 With an average estimate of one additional life lost per $17 million lost in income, that would translate to 65,000 lives lost in the U.S.

00:49:43.000 for each month because of the economic shutdown.

00:49:46.000 Lives are also lost due to delayed or foregone healthcare imposed by the shutdown and the fear it creates among patients.

00:49:52.000 He says emergency stroke evaluations are down 40%.

00:49:55.000 Of the 650,000 cancer patients receiving chemo, an estimated half are missing their treatments.

00:50:01.000 These unintended consequences of missed healthcare amount to more than 500,000 lost years of life per month, not including all the other known skipped care.

00:50:07.000 The reason that he is using lost years of life is because that is a better and more specific metric than just lives lost.

00:50:15.000 Because if you have a lot of people who are dying in a nursing home and their life expectancy was another 4 or 5 months and they die 5 months early, that is a different thing in terms of calculating public policy than a 30-year-old dying 50 years early.

00:50:25.000 Or a 40-year-old dying 40 years early.

00:50:27.000 That does not mean that every life lost isn't a moral tragedy, but when you're making actuarial decisions, as I've said before, you have to take into account the differences between losing 5 months of life and losing 40 years of life, obviously.

00:50:40.000 Okay, so the media continued to get this wrong.

00:50:42.000 Chris Wallace went after Dr. Deborah Birx the other day.

00:50:45.000 He asked if they opened it too soon, if there was too much opening too soon.

00:50:50.000 No, there was not too much opening too soon.

00:50:52.000 The evidence was that there was not going to be an overwhelming of the healthcare system.

00:50:54.000 Again, people are just ignoring what the original purpose of the lockdowns was because the goalposts have moved.

00:50:59.000 Here is Chris Wallace.

00:51:02.000 A month ago, you were saying we were going to come down below the low end of the model, which is 100,000 to 240,000 to 60,000.

00:51:08.000 So I guess my question is, in this last month, did you underestimate the strength of the virus?

00:51:16.000 Did we reopen too soon?

00:51:18.000 Did we reopen without sufficient restrictions?

00:51:23.000 What I was saying in that briefing that you were talking about is what that current model was showing.

00:51:30.000 And that's exactly right.

00:51:31.000 Why is it that she's being asked about being a little too optimistic, but we never hear about the Niall Ferguson model over in Britain that was off by like orders of magnitude.

00:51:41.000 That's really what we should be hearing about.

00:51:42.000 By the way, it is not too early to open.

00:51:44.000 Burke says that they are preparing for a second wave in the fall.

00:51:46.000 You knew this was coming.

00:51:47.000 This was, of course, always going to come.

00:51:49.000 It's one of the reasons why lockdown was never going to continue to be a strategy.

00:51:53.000 It's just not going to be a strategy that is worth doing.

00:51:56.000 We are preparing for that potential fall issue, both in PPE, which is protective devices, both in ventilators, stockpiles, and ensuring that we're really pushing on therapeutics and vaccine development so we can be ready if the virus does come back in a significant way.

00:52:15.000 Okay, and that is the plan.

00:52:16.000 By the way, the economy is starting to come back.

00:52:18.000 I mean, this is good news.

00:52:19.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, for economy, worst of coronavirus shutdowns may be over.

00:52:24.000 Recovering air travel, hotel bookings, and mortgage applications are among the early signs the U.S.

00:52:27.000 economy is slowly creeping back to life.

00:52:29.000 You can see this, by the way, just by looking at the traffic in Los Angeles, which is up radically.

00:52:34.000 You can see it over Memorial Day weekend.

00:52:35.000 People were going out to beaches.

00:52:36.000 People were, in general, being responsible.

00:52:39.000 People were wearing masks.

00:52:40.000 People were socially distancing.

00:52:41.000 It is amazing how the mask wearing has become such a flashpoint for politics at this point.

00:52:47.000 Again, my feeling is that we should all be responsible, that we should try and continue to slow the spread, that it is not too much to ask people to wear masks, particularly if they are dealing with the vulnerable.

00:52:58.000 There are a lot of churches that are reopening, and that's a good thing.

00:53:01.000 When President Trump said last week that governors should reopen churches, he was right. 0.98

00:53:04.000 He was the president on Friday making the announcement that he wanted governors to reopen churches.

00:53:08.000 Some governors have deemed liquor stores and abortion clinics as essential, but have left out churches and other houses of worship.

00:53:17.000 It's not right.

00:53:19.000 So I'm correcting this injustice and calling houses of worship essential.

00:53:26.000 I call upon governors to allow our churches and places of worship to open right now for this weekend.

00:53:34.000 If they don't do it, I will override the governors.

00:53:38.000 In America, we need more prayer, not less.

00:53:42.000 He doesn't have the power to do that.

00:53:43.000 Theoretically, he could have some lawsuits filed by the DOJ, and the Attorney General could theoretically file some freedom of religion lawsuits, but realistically speaking, governors do have plenary control over stuff like this.

00:53:54.000 With that said, churches were starting to reopen, synagogues are starting to reopen, now the question is just be responsible.

00:54:00.000 And again, the folks who are Very, very upset about mask wearing.

00:54:04.000 There's two things that are happening.

00:54:05.000 One is, there's a group of people who are like, I'm not wearing masks under any circumstances because it's a pansy move. 1.00

00:54:10.000 And I'm not going to wear a mask because if I wear a mask, that just shows that I'm not brave and people need to get back out there and be brave.

00:54:16.000 No, the mask isn't to protect you.

00:54:19.000 The mask is to protect other people around you.

00:54:22.000 It's not brave to expose other people around you to possibility of coronavirus and you won't know if you have it because 80% of people who have this thing are asymptomatic.

00:54:29.000 So if you're in an old age home, you'd wear it. 0.99

00:54:31.000 Now, if you're with a bunch of other young people at a pool party or something, I'm not sure that it's honestly, I'm not sure it's the biggest deal.

00:54:36.000 Like there was a tape that was going around.

00:54:38.000 From the Ozarks of people not socially distancing and not wearing masks and they're all in a pool. 0.85

00:54:42.000 Okay, they're all 18.

00:54:43.000 They're outdoors.

00:54:43.000 They're all 20.

00:54:45.000 They're also in a pool filled with chlorine.

00:54:46.000 Chlorine apparently does kill the virus.

00:54:48.000 So is this a great idea? 1.00

00:54:49.000 No, it's an idiotic idea. 0.99

00:54:51.000 But at the same time, is this like where I'm most worried about an outbreak of coronavirus? 1.00

00:54:55.000 Not unless all those people go home and infect grandma, right?

00:54:57.000 That would be the irresponsible activity.

00:54:59.000 If they decide to engage this way and risk themselves, that is one thing.

00:55:02.000 If they decide to go somewhere else and risk grandma, that is a completely different thing.

00:55:07.000 So everybody is so reactionary now.

00:55:09.000 So the left basically was suggesting that mask wearing is a sign of pure, unbridled virtue.

00:55:15.000 President Trump, for some reason, took up that challenge.

00:55:17.000 Instead of saying, let's be responsible, let's wear masks where we need to wear masks, let's not wear masks where we don't.

00:55:21.000 Instead, he was like, I'm never wearing masks.

00:55:23.000 And so that means that for Democrats, they're now going to wear masks as like a fashion symbol.

00:55:28.000 So now we get Democrats basically saying you should wear a mask everywhere.

00:55:31.000 That's why if you drive around LA, you'll see people wearing masks in their cars by themselves, which makes no sense at all.

00:55:36.000 Or people who are walking around at the park, a hundred feet from other people, wearing masks.

00:55:40.000 Let's just do virtue signaling at this point.

00:55:42.000 That is not a useful thing.

00:55:44.000 Mike DeWine, the governor of Ohio, he gets this right.

00:55:45.000 He says, I don't really understand why there's controversy over this.

00:55:48.000 Wearing a mask is about courtesy if you're within a certain distance of other human beings.

00:55:52.000 What we do directly impacts others.

00:55:55.000 And we're not saying if you're in a car and you're driving by yourself, you don't have to wear a mask.

00:55:59.000 You don't have to wear a mask if you're out, you know, away from people, hiking, or doing all kinds of different things, or in your own house.

00:56:07.000 But when you go out and interact directly with people, We're asking Ohioans to do this.

00:56:13.000 And so it's not about politics.

00:56:16.000 It's not about conservative or liberal.

00:56:18.000 It's about helping other people.

00:56:22.000 Okay, that is basically correct. 1.00

00:56:24.000 But this has led to Democrats being like, well, you're stupid if you don't wear a mask. 1.00

00:56:27.000 If you don't wear a mask everywhere you go, it's because you're dumb. 1.00

00:56:30.000 So Andrew Cuomo, who couldn't even protect the old age homes, Andrew Cuomo over the weekend, he was like, yeah, you're dumb if you don't wear a mask. 1.00

00:56:36.000 Why you wouldn't use it There's no legitimate, rational explanation. 0.93

00:56:44.000 Well, I don't like the way it looks.

00:56:46.000 You know what?

00:56:47.000 Paint something on the mask, right?

00:56:49.000 Get a new color.

00:56:51.000 It's not smart.

00:56:53.000 It's not smart. 1.00

00:56:55.000 My colleague, Melissa DeRosa, said yesterday, it was stupid. 1.00

00:57:01.000 That's another way of saying, not smart. 1.00

00:57:03.000 Sort of the hyper New York way of saying that.

00:57:07.000 Takes less words.

00:57:09.000 Okay, so this turned into over the weekend, Donald Trump goes to Arlington, he's not wearing a mask.

00:57:13.000 He doesn't need to wear a mask.

00:57:14.000 He's away from other people.

00:57:15.000 He's outdoors.

00:57:16.000 He's also the most tested person on earth, I'm sure.

00:57:18.000 Joe Biden goes to a veterans memorial with his wife, and he's being feeded for wearing a mask.

00:57:23.000 He literally, look, you can see the tape.

00:57:25.000 He's nowhere near other human beings.

00:57:27.000 Nowhere near them.

00:57:28.000 The reason he's wearing a mask is because he's virtue signaling now.

00:57:31.000 So this has turned into, if you take COVID seriously, you're wearing a mask.

00:57:33.000 If you don't take COVID seriously, you're not wearing a mask.

00:57:35.000 How about this?

00:57:36.000 Wear a mask when you're supposed to, and you don't need to wear a mask if you're outdoors at a veterans memorial.

00:57:40.000 You know, again, this has just turned into fashion.

00:57:44.000 It's a fashion thing now. 1.00

00:57:46.000 Everything in America begins as like a serious policy proposal and eventually turns into a polarized discussion about absolute, utter, stupid nonsense. 1.00

00:57:54.000 Just ridiculous on every level. 1.00

00:57:56.000 Here's the reality. 0.76

00:57:57.000 Want to get back to work?

00:57:58.000 Want to have that v-shaped recovery?

00:57:59.000 Wear the mask when you're indoors with other people.

00:58:01.000 When you're within six feet of other people.

00:58:03.000 Don't do it when you're outdoors and away from other people.

00:58:05.000 And then go back to work.

00:58:06.000 And if you don't want to be with other people and you don't trust other people, then stay home.

00:58:10.000 There's a reopening policy.

00:58:11.000 We've done it.

00:58:12.000 Magic.

00:58:14.000 Because that's exactly what people are doing on every level.

00:58:16.000 That's exactly how things are going.

00:58:18.000 The fact that everything breaks down into prior partisanship is just insane to me.

00:58:22.000 Utterly, utterly crazy.

00:58:24.000 Alright, time for a quick thing that I like.

00:58:27.000 So, my wife and I have sort of run out of new movies because no new movies are being made.

00:58:32.000 And I happen to have seen nearly every movie ever made at this point.

00:58:35.000 And so we've been going back and watching some great oldies, or at least that's what we call them where I'm from.

00:58:40.000 Back to the Future is just, you forget how good a movie this is because it's so popular.

00:58:44.000 The script to this movie is so good.

00:58:46.000 And the score to this movie by Alan Silvestri is just phenomenal.

00:58:51.000 It is a phenomenal score.

00:58:52.000 The last 15 minutes are one long musical cue, and it is one of the best musical cues in film history.

00:58:57.000 It's a fantastic cue.

00:58:58.000 Everything from when Marty gets back to Doc and then the storm starts, From that to the end of the movie is basically one musical cue.

00:59:08.000 It is a great cue.

00:59:09.000 It's fantastic.

00:59:10.000 The script is incredible.

00:59:12.000 Michael J. Fox is absolutely charming.

00:59:13.000 The backstory to the movie is kind of fantastic because Michael J. Fox had a conflict when he was doing Family Ties and so he actually couldn't play Marty McFly.

00:59:21.000 Are you telling me that you built a time machine?

00:59:23.000 Son of a DeLorean?

00:59:24.000 movie with another actor.

00:59:26.000 And then they went back and they spent $3 million and reshot it with Michael J. Fox because they realized that the actor just wasn't working out.

00:59:33.000 He actually became kind of a famous actor.

00:59:33.000 I'm trying to remember his name.

00:59:35.000 But the movie is great.

00:59:37.000 If you've never seen Back to the Future, you're really, really missing out.

00:59:37.000 Here's a little bit of the trailer.

00:59:40.000 It's fantastic.

00:59:40.000 Are you telling me that you built a time machine instead of a DeLorean?

00:59:46.000 He's sending Marty 30 years back in time.

00:59:51.000 It worked!

00:59:53.000 It's a floating saucer from outer space!

00:59:57.000 Now, he's trapped in the past.

01:00:00.000 This has got to be a dream.

01:00:01.000 About to meet... Chocolate!

01:00:03.000 His future father.

01:00:04.000 He's a...

01:00:06.000 Wow!

01:00:07.000 And he's making an impression.

01:00:08.000 Originally, it was Eric Stoltz who was supposed to play this part.

01:00:11.000 He went on to play, you know, a lot of other parts have a fairly big career, particularly doing kind of character actor-y stuff.

01:00:16.000 But the movie obviously requires Michael J. Fox, who remains one of the most charming people who was ever on a movie screen.

01:00:22.000 Really, like, think about the fact that he was a 50, that he was a 5'5 guy.

01:00:27.000 He was 24 when he played this, I believe.

01:00:29.000 And just the most charming thing on TV.

01:00:32.000 I mean, imagine having the biggest hit on TV and the biggest hit in movie theaters at the same time, which is exactly what he did.

01:00:36.000 Pretty incredible.

01:00:36.000 All right.

01:00:37.000 We'll be back here later today with two additional hours of content.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - May 26, 2020

Stepping On Your Own Bleep | Ep. 1018

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