The Ben Shapiro Show - Stop Lecturing Your Parents | Ep. 1037

00:00:00.000 The younger generation decides to lecture their parents on racism.

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00:02:08.000 So there's been a lot of talk about the continuation of racism in America and the idea that America is systemically racist, filled with racists.

00:02:16.000 All of our systems are racist.

00:02:18.000 And I'm wondering exactly what the evidence is of this, that there is widespread American racism, particularly widespread white American racism against black Americans by polls.

00:02:27.000 The United States is one of the least racist countries on planet Earth by polling data.

00:02:33.000 By actual violent crime data, the United States has very, very little intraracial crime, white on black.

00:02:39.000 That does not happen very often.

00:02:40.000 The evidence that there's widespread American racism, that white Americans are looking to do bad things to black people on a regular basis, or that they are attempting to shift their institutions so as to harm black people, the evidence of that is incredibly, incredibly scanty.

00:02:52.000 And when we see it, We call it out, right?

00:02:54.000 When we see bad situations, we call it out.

00:02:56.000 See, this is the thing that is so puzzling about our entire moment, is there seems to be a widespread perception that America is broadly speaking racist, its systems are broadly speaking racist, and yet people are having trouble identifying which systems are racist and which people are racist.

00:03:10.000 And the reason people are having trouble identifying that is anytime there is a racist incident, there's an extraordinary outpouring of support for the person who was victimized by the alleged racist incident.

00:03:20.000 So perfect example happened this week.

00:03:23.000 There's a huge story out of NASCAR.

00:03:25.000 So there's a driver, a black driver named Bubba Wallace, and Bubba Wallace had called for and ends the Confederate flag in NASCAR.

00:03:32.000 And he wanted to put Black Lives Matter on his car.

00:03:34.000 So he put Black Lives Matter on his car, is my understanding.

00:03:36.000 And Ben Nascar went along with his request, right?

00:03:39.000 There are a lot of people who fly the Confederate flag, not because they are racist, but because they believe that it represents Southern heritage.

00:03:44.000 We've discussed the morphing meaning of the flag and the differential meanings of the flag for various different groups in American public life, all of which I think are completely legitimate.

00:03:53.000 As I've said before, I think the black people look at the Confederate flag and they say, hey, that's the flag that flew for people who wanted to enslave my great-great-grandfather.

00:04:00.000 I get it.

00:04:01.000 I really do.

00:04:01.000 That makes perfect sense to me.

00:04:02.000 I also know a lot of Southerners who fly the Confederate flag, not because they back racism or slavery, but because that was a flag that their grandfather flew in the Battle of the Bulge.

00:04:12.000 And so they see it as a Southern pride thing.

00:04:14.000 I get that, too.

00:04:14.000 I see how two people could look at the same symbol.

00:04:16.000 One could find it deeply offensive and be correct, and one could find it deeply non-offensive and also be correct from their perspective.

00:04:22.000 There are differences of perspective here when it comes to the Confederate flag.

00:04:24.000 It's sort of like Rashomon, and it really does depend on your subjective perspective on the issue.

00:04:29.000 If you are a sports league like NASCAR, your private industry, and you want to take down the Confederate flag, totally within your rights to do so.

00:04:35.000 So NASCAR goes along with this.

00:04:37.000 And then, yesterday, or the day before, a story emerges from NASCAR that apparently a noose was found in the garage stall of Bubba Wallace's Richard Petty Motorsports team before the postponed cup race at Talladega Super Speedway a little bit earlier this week.

00:04:52.000 So that was a huge story because black driver who has been instrumental in trying to push NASCAR to get rid of the confederate flag and then he finds a noose in his locker.

00:05:01.000 Now we don't know all of the circumstances yet.

00:05:02.000 We don't know who did this yet, right?

00:05:03.000 NASCAR is investigating.

00:05:04.000 Presumably they will find out.

00:05:06.000 I mean NASCAR's garages, I promise you there are cameras in there.

00:05:08.000 The FBI is also investigating so we should find out sooner rather than later and whoever did that should obviously be punished and everyone agrees on this that that is a great example of a racist incident.

00:05:18.000 Right, depending on who did it.

00:05:19.000 That is a great... I mean, it's hard to think of it not being a racist incident, obviously.

00:05:23.000 So, NASCAR puts out a statement.

00:05:24.000 It says, Regardless of whether federal charges can be brought, this type of action has no place in our society, says U.S.

00:05:52.000 Attorney Jay Town, who is the U.S.

00:05:55.000 District Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama.

00:05:58.000 So in other words, a bad thing happened, and the reaction is overwhelming in support of the black driver. 0.99

00:06:03.000 Overwhelming.

00:06:04.000 I mean, the images that came out of Talladega yesterday are stunning.

00:06:08.000 It is the image of everyone who works at Talladega pushing Bubba Watson's car, Bubba Wallace's car rather, to the front of the speedway.

00:06:17.000 There was a march where all the drivers got out, like all of them, and all of their pit workers, and they pushed his car all the way to the front of the track.

00:06:26.000 Right, to the post position on the front of the track, which is, I would think, an amazing display of hating racism.

00:06:33.000 And I think that that signifies where virtually every American is when it comes to racism.

00:06:38.000 Every American of good heart, and I would say that's 99% of Americans, 98% of Americans, despises racism and thinks racism is really bad.

00:06:47.000 And you can see that in action right here.

00:06:49.000 All of NASCAR's drivers have rallied around Bubba Wallace, the NASCAR Cup Series lone black driver, after what happened here yesterday afternoon.

00:07:02.000 The drivers, led by reigning Cup Series champion Kyle Busch in green, and their crews, the entire garage area, has rallied around Bubba Wallace and the number 43 today.

00:07:16.000 Okay, so can we stop pretending that this is like Selma, Alabama, you know, in Selma, Mississippi, in 1962?

00:07:25.000 Can we stop pretending that that's what this is?

00:07:27.000 Because it isn't.

00:07:28.000 I mean, you have literally an entire group of people and I mean like every American dedicated to wiping away the scourge of racism in Selma, Alabama rather.

00:07:38.000 I was right the first time.

00:07:39.000 The idea here being that somehow America is deeply racist when you have every NASCAR driver walking Bubba Wallace to the front of the track here in support of him after a noose was found in his locker and after NASCAR the sport backed him and got rid of the confederate flag which again is important to many of the people who watch the sport.

00:07:57.000 This doesn't seem like a very racist country to me.

00:07:59.000 I'll be honest with you.

00:08:00.000 That does not seem like the hallmark of a racist country.

00:08:02.000 This is not something that you saw in apartheid South Africa.

00:08:04.000 This is not something that you saw in the Jim Crow South.

00:08:08.000 It's utterly unthinkable.

00:08:09.000 I would imagine that if you are a black person who lived through the Jim Crow South, the very sight of Bubba Wallace's car, In Talladega, being walked to the front of the track by a bunch of white drivers, right?

00:08:18.000 Because he's the only black driver in NASCAR.

00:08:20.000 And NASCAR, taking his advice and getting rid of the Confederate flag, that's pretty good evidence that there is a lot of support for the notion that racism is bad, right?

00:08:28.000 These are unifying sentiments that racism is bad.

00:08:31.000 And yet the idea is that we have to continue to maintain that black Americans are at constant threat of extinction, that America's an extinction-level event for black Americans. 0.88

00:08:39.000 It's just not true. 0.83

00:08:41.000 It's just not true.

00:08:42.000 The overwhelming sentiment of Americans, and by the way, tolerance for extreme behavior by people who are protesting what they believe to be racism, is fairly good evidence that America is on board.

00:08:51.000 America is not in favor of racism.

00:08:54.000 And yet the narrative we're being told is that America is continuing to be in favor of racism.

00:08:58.000 And the quest never ends, right?

00:08:59.000 The quest never ends.

00:09:00.000 It's a perpetual revolution.

00:09:01.000 Because it's not enough to do what they did over at Talladega.

00:09:04.000 We'll get to more of this in just one second.

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00:10:19.000 Alrighty, so...

00:10:21.000 As I say, it seems to me the evidence is pretty strong that Americans despise racism.

00:10:25.000 And Americans of all stripes think racism is really, really bad.

00:10:30.000 In fact, Americans hate racism so much that they are not willing to talk about instances of apparent racism where the races are not the ones that fit the narrative.

00:10:38.000 So, for example, there was this attack that I talked about yesterday on the show.

00:10:42.000 It was filmed and went viral online, in which a black man beat the living hell out of a white Macy's employee and then claimed that he used the N-word.

00:10:49.000 It was a really bad incident. 0.57

00:10:50.000 Really bad incident.

00:10:51.000 Okay?

00:10:52.000 And the only people who are talking about it are, of course, people on conservative radio, right?

00:10:56.000 People in the conservative world are talking about this because they're making the point that, you know, it's quite fascinating the disparate attention that is paid to acts of racism in the United States.

00:11:05.000 If this were a white guy walking into a Macy's and beating the hell out of a black employee, that would lead the news every night for weeks.

00:11:11.000 And the reason for that is because, again, the media narrative is that racism only exists when it comes to white-on-black racism. 0.90

00:11:17.000 There's no such thing as black-on-white racism.

00:11:19.000 Also, there's this idea from the media that if you pay attention to attacks like this one, that it leads to bad narratives.

00:11:26.000 It leads to bad narratives in which people might become racist about black people by seeing this sort of incident.

00:11:30.000 Now, I think most people are smart enough to look at this sort of incident and not attribute this to black people at large.

00:11:35.000 I think most people are smart enough to look at an incident like this and say, hey, that's a bad person who's doing a racist thing, it appears.

00:11:41.000 But the same way that the left refuses to... Here's the thing.

00:11:46.000 For the left, it's a lot of projection.

00:11:47.000 The left sees a white person do a bad thing to a black person and immediately attributes that to American society writ large and white people writ large.

00:11:53.000 And so they assume that if Americans were to see a black person do a bad thing to a white person, that all of America would then suggest that all black people are responsible for this.

00:12:02.000 The only people who talk in terms of collective responsibility for actions on a racial level are people on the left.

00:12:07.000 And that is why they don't want to talk about incidents like that because with leftist logic, then collective action, collective responsibility starts to take hold.

00:12:15.000 But for regular people, they look at incidents of racism, they say, okay, people who act racist in America are the bad apples and we should call them out no matter what their race.

00:12:23.000 And it doesn't implicate the system more broadly.

00:12:25.000 The problem for the left is if you're making an argument that systems of power are always implicated by individual events, then you can only show the public certain events.

00:12:34.000 It's very important that the public only see certain events because if every incident is just the tip of the iceberg and the iceberg is really the problem, well then, we can only show you the incidents that back our narrative and the icebergs that we wish to talk about.

00:12:46.000 So this incident at Macy's, of course, did not receive the sort of national news coverage that it would have received if the races were reversed.

00:12:51.000 Neither did that incident in, what was it, Michigan?

00:12:53.000 Where there was a video of a young black man beating up an elderly white person.

00:12:57.000 Neither did that incident in New York, where there was that image of a young black man walking down the street.

00:13:01.000 He apparently had a bunch of criminal violations before, pushing over a 92-year-old white woman who promptly banged her head on the sidewalk.

00:13:07.000 None of that made the news in the same way that the beatings of Jews in Williamsburg, predominantly by young people of color, did not make the news.

00:13:14.000 The reason it didn't make the news is not because it's not newsworthy.

00:13:17.000 It's because the left automatically assumes that because they think of things in terms of race, everybody else We'll start to attribute individual actions to broader races, and then that will back a narrative that they don't like.

00:13:27.000 Right?

00:13:28.000 And again, I'm of the opinion that you shouldn't attribute individual instances to broader narratives without any supporting evidence, but because the left does it routinely, they're afraid of sh- This is how you end up with censorship.

00:13:38.000 The way you end up with censorship is because there are people on the left who believe that every individual incident is indicative of a broader system of power.

00:13:45.000 And so we can only show you certain incidents that back our notions of which power ought to govern and which power ought not govern.

00:13:52.000 But this is part of the broader point, which is that, and by the way, that is a status quo that is sort of accepted by most Americans.

00:13:57.000 Most Americans are not clamoring to see more of this Macy's incident on TV.

00:14:01.000 And the reason is because most Americans are uncomfortable with racist incidents and uncomfortable with racism more generally.

00:14:08.000 Americans are trying to wipe racism away.

00:14:10.000 It is something they wish to do.

00:14:13.000 And you're seeing that, it's pretty incredible, you're seeing this On a wide variety of levels, the attempt to bend over backwards to wipe away non-racism over and over.

00:14:23.000 So 30 Rock is now pulling certain episodes from syndication because supposedly characters in the show appeared in blackface.

00:14:31.000 And I don't actually remember those episodes.

00:14:33.000 I remember watching 30 Rock.

00:14:34.000 I don't remember the episodes off the top of my head.

00:14:37.000 But Tina Fey put out a note. 1.00

00:14:38.000 She said, as we strive to do the work and do better in regards to race in America, we believe that these episodes featuring actors in race-changing makeup are best taken out of circulation.

00:14:47.000 I understand now that intent is not a free pass for white power, for white people to use these images.

00:14:51.000 I apologize for the pain they have caused.

00:14:53.000 Going forward, no comedy-loving kid needs to stumble on these tropes.

00:14:57.000 I believe that the idea here was to parody blackface, if I recall this correctly.

00:14:59.000 That the whole thing was to make fun of racism.

00:15:01.000 There were two episodes in question.

00:15:03.000 One was episode two of season three and one was episode 10 of season five.

00:15:08.000 Both of them featured Jane Krakowski's character Jenna in blackface.

00:15:11.000 I believe that the idea here was to parody blackface, if I recall this correctly.

00:15:16.000 The whole thing was to make fun of racism.

00:15:18.000 I'm fairly certain that Tina Fey and the folks over at NBC were not like, oh, let's do let's do old fashioned blackface and make fun of black people.

00:15:24.000 Pretty sure that's not the case.

00:15:25.000 But even making fun of Blackface is no longer acceptable.

00:15:28.000 By the way, we know that making fun of Blackface is no longer acceptable because the Washington Post ran a 3,000-word piece castigating one of its own former staffers, who is like an internet person, for having the temerity to mock Megyn Kelly by dressing up as Megyn Kelly in Blackface after that entire silly scandal a few years back.

00:15:47.000 Okay, speaking of people who are now being targeted for not being woke enough, see, here's the thing.

00:15:51.000 Once you buy into the narrative that America is, broadly speaking, racist, despite all proof to the contrary, there is no end to it.

00:15:58.000 Once you buy into the idea that you don't have to spot individual instances of racism, all you have to identify is inequality of outcome, well then, there is no end to this routine.

00:16:08.000 And the people who will find themselves on the chopping block first are the people who are most likely to cave.

00:16:12.000 So this is why Bill Simmons finds himself on the chopping block today.

00:16:14.000 So what did Bill Simmons do wrong, right?

00:16:16.000 The sports guy?

00:16:17.000 So the New York Times has a long piece today called Sports Media Giant Bill Simmons Finds Himself Playing Defense.

00:16:21.000 What did he do?

00:16:22.000 Did he say the N-word? 0.54

00:16:23.000 Did he mistreat a black person?

00:16:25.000 No, no he didn't.

00:16:26.000 What did he do?

00:16:27.000 Well, on June 1st, there was an episode of Bill Simmons' podcast called A Truly Sad Week in America.

00:16:33.000 ...in which Simmons talked about the Black Lives Matter movement with a frequent guest, The Ringer podcaster Ryan Russillo.

00:16:39.000 Russillo is one of the founding editors of the site, and a good friend of Simmons.

00:16:42.000 And Russillo spoke of what he described as looters who were breaking into sneaker shops, which is a thing that happened.

00:16:47.000 Okay, you know how I know that happened?

00:16:48.000 It happened two blocks from my house!

00:16:50.000 Literally, in the middle of the unrest in Los Angeles, there's a footlocker like three blocks away and people broke into the footlocker.

00:16:58.000 I mean, the good news was that they broke a window and somebody got caught.

00:17:01.000 They called an ambulance.

00:17:02.000 The guy was fine.

00:17:03.000 Not kidding.

00:17:03.000 That's an actual thing that happened.

00:17:05.000 But Russillo made a big mistake.

00:17:07.000 During the podcast, Russillo complimented Simmons on his hiring practices, praising his boss for, quote, the jobs and opportunities you've given a diverse group.

00:17:14.000 Then, Simmons and Russillo were forced to apologize because it was set off a social media backlash and was described as preposterous in the New York Daily News.

00:17:23.000 The Ringer Union, affiliated with the Writers Guild of America, represents about 65 employees.

00:17:27.000 The outlet has no black editors or staff writers covering the NBA or NFL.

00:17:31.000 So, hold on.

00:17:32.000 I have a question.

00:17:33.000 Does that mean no black people work at the Ringer?

00:17:35.000 No, it doesn't.

00:17:36.000 It just means they're not in certain positions at the Ringer.

00:17:38.000 But then, Simmons had to prostrate himself before the woke gods of the New York Times.

00:17:44.000 He said in an email to the New York Times that the Ringer fell short on diversity, and that he expects to make personnel announcements soon that will show that the company is making progress on the issue.

00:17:52.000 And then, he held an all-hands meeting a few days after the podcast episode.

00:17:55.000 Simmons told the staff he was going to make mistakes, but that he tried to learn from them.

00:17:58.000 By the way, I believe that they have two separate podcast hosts who are black, at least, right?

00:18:01.000 Jemele Hill, I believe, hosts a podcast with the Ringer, and so does Larry Wilmore, is my understanding, hosts a podcast with the Ringer. 0.98

00:18:07.000 So the idea that this is like a black free company or something or that Bill Simmons is a vicious racist is plainly ridiculous. 0.99

00:18:14.000 It's plainly ridiculous. 0.99

00:18:15.000 But now he is on the chopping block. 0.99

00:18:18.000 Because apparently he has not hired enough black folks.

00:18:21.000 The Ringer has six black editorial staff members out of about 90 employees, according to the union.

00:18:25.000 Three of them are writers.

00:18:26.000 A fourth black writer was hired to cover the NFL starting in July.

00:18:30.000 Between 2017 and 2019, at least five black editorial staff members left the company.

00:18:34.000 So that means, presumably, that he had more black staffers and some of them left.

00:18:40.000 But, the New York Times quoted these four former black employees, three of whom spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of antagonizing Simmons, and they said they often felt uncomfortable at the ringer.

00:18:49.000 A few of them- why were they uncomfortable?

00:18:51.000 A few of them said they were sometimes heaped with racist abuse on social media and in online comments when they heard- when they covered topics that might not have fit the expectations of the typical ringer reader, including a post on Beyonce, and top editors didn't go on social media and defend them.

00:19:03.000 So it's not that the ringer did something bad to their own employees.

00:19:06.000 It's that they posted articles and people were mean to them online and gave them the sads, and their editors didn't come out of the woodwork to defend them from the cruelty of the comment section.

00:19:15.000 First of all, if you work in the internet, first rule of working on the internet, guys, never read the comments.

00:19:19.000 Never read the comments.

00:19:20.000 But...

00:19:21.000 Just like every other woke company, The Ringer is now being basically held hostage in its staffing decisions by woke staffers who have decided that they are going to hold accountable the editorial structure that pays them for decisions that they don't actually get to make.

00:19:34.000 The point here is a more general one, which is, it seems to me, there's a pretty widespread attempt happening right now to fight racism, no?

00:19:42.000 It seems like Americans, broadly speaking, are pretty, like, they're saying, what do you want from us?

00:19:47.000 What do you need, what do you, meaning the woke left, what do you want us to do?

00:19:52.000 What do you want us to do?

00:19:53.000 And the answer is all the things.

00:19:55.000 The answer is the woke left wants all the things, every single thing.

00:19:58.000 There are no things that the woke left does not want.

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00:21:11.000 Okay, so what exactly does the woke left want?

00:21:13.000 The answer is the woke left wants all of the things.

00:21:15.000 So Sean King, of the New York Daily News and a self-proclaimed civil rights leader.

00:21:22.000 He reacted to a post from Matt Schlapp.

00:21:25.000 Matt Schlapp is the head of the American Conservative Union.

00:21:27.000 And Matt Schlapp had tweeted out that sooner or later, the left was gonna come for statues of Jesus.

00:21:31.000 They're coming for statues of literally everyone else.

00:21:34.000 And Sean King immediately tweeted back, yes, I think the statues of the white European they claim as Jesus should also come down.

00:21:40.000 They are a form of white supremacy, always have been.

00:21:43.000 In the Bible, when the family of Jesus wanted to hide and blend in, guess where they went?

00:21:47.000 Egypt, not Denmark.

00:21:48.000 Tear them down.

00:21:50.000 So it tears down every depiction of Jesus as a white person.

00:21:53.000 By the way, Jesus was not a black person either.

00:21:55.000 Jesus was a Jew. 0.99

00:21:56.000 Okay, he probably looked like my father-in-law.

00:21:58.000 Like, seriously, he looked like a modern-day Israeli, probably, Jesus. 0.97

00:22:03.000 He was probably a short, stubby Jew. 1.00

00:22:04.000 Right, that's it, because guess what? 0.73

00:22:06.000 That's what, like, he was a Jew. 0.99

00:22:08.000 I don't know what to tell you about this, right?

00:22:09.000 He probably did not look like a 6'5 Norwegian, right?

00:22:13.000 I get it.

00:22:13.000 But the idea that you are going to tear down all art of Jesus, and then he continued along these lines.

00:22:17.000 He said, yes, all murals and stained glass windows of white Jesus and his European mother and their white friends should also come down. 0.99

00:22:23.000 They're a gross form of white supremacy created as tools of oppression, racist propaganda. 0.99

00:22:28.000 They should all come down. 0.94

00:22:29.000 So how do you feel about shattering all the stained glass windows?

00:22:32.000 What do you think?

00:22:32.000 Should we just go to, you know, all of the world's historic churches and start shattering windows?

00:22:36.000 Apparently, the answer is yes.

00:22:39.000 And the attempt to tear down statues continued apace.

00:22:41.000 It's all statues.

00:22:42.000 It is all statues, right?

00:22:43.000 It is not just restricted to Confederate monuments.

00:22:46.000 It is not just restricted to people in history who have very checkered pasts, the Andrew Jacksons of the world.

00:22:51.000 They tried to tear that statue down in Lafayette Park last night.

00:22:53.000 It's not just restricted.

00:22:55.000 Two old Confederates.

00:22:56.000 Teddy Roosevelt statues need to be taken down.

00:22:59.000 Bill de Blasio said that Teddy Roosevelt did things that are deeply disturbing.

00:23:01.000 We are five seconds away, by the way, from the blow up Mount Rushmore movement.

00:23:06.000 That is five seconds away.

00:23:07.000 Because Mount Rushmore features a bevy of people who have all been cancelled.

00:23:11.000 In fact, there is nobody on Mount Rushmore who has not been cancelled.

00:23:15.000 All the people on Mount Rushmore at this point have been cancelled so far as I am aware.

00:23:20.000 George Washington has had his statues torn down.

00:23:23.000 And so has Thomas Jefferson.

00:23:25.000 Abraham Lincoln has been cancelled by people who have suggested that, you know, if you look at his early writings, he talks about taking black people and creating Liberia and moving them back to Africa, and he wasn't in favor of racial equality, he wasn't even in favor of getting rid of slavery at the outset of the Civil War.

00:23:39.000 So Abraham Lincoln has been cancelled, and now Teddy Roosevelt is being cancelled.

00:23:42.000 Here's Bill de Blasio, giant weirdo and groundhog murderer, talking about how Teddy Roosevelt is cancelled.

00:23:48.000 Roosevelt himself is another one of these complex figures in American history. 0.83

00:23:54.000 He did some extraordinarily progressive things that we feel to this day.

00:23:59.000 And he did some things that I think are deeply troubling.

00:24:02.000 But I think there's a separate question between him, the person, and the actual statue.

00:24:07.000 The statue has representations that clearly do not represent today's values.

00:24:15.000 Uh, the statue clearly, you know, presents a white man as superior to people of color.

00:24:22.000 Okay, that is not really what the statue was dedicated to do.

00:24:25.000 But in any case, Bill de Blasio and the rest of the of the new communist crew... 0.96

00:24:30.000 have figured out exactly what it is that they want, and what they want is all of the things.

00:24:34.000 All of the things.

00:24:35.000 And this does tie into a broader narrative, again, of American racism and American evil.

00:24:39.000 Tom Cotton, Senator from Arkansas, he pointed out yesterday, when you rip down Washington and Grant, you're not doing that because you want to correct American history, you're doing that because you really don't like the country, and you think the country from inception is evil and bad.

00:24:51.000 You're talking not just about ripping down monuments of Confederates who fought against the Union, you're talking about ripping down the Union itself.

00:24:57.000 Witness the events of just this past weekend, where mobs tore down statues of George Washington and Ulysses S. Grant.

00:25:04.000 When you tear down statues of Washington and Grant, it's not about the Civil War.

00:25:09.000 It's because you hate America.

00:25:13.000 And indeed, these rioters hate America.

00:25:16.000 In Portland, where they tore down the statue of Washington, they also spray-painted on him the date 1619.

00:25:24.000 A reference to the New York Times' revisionist, anti-American history project.

00:25:30.000 Okay, he is exactly right about all of this.

00:25:31.000 And this is part of, again, a broader goal.

00:25:33.000 And the broader goal is to tear down the system.

00:25:35.000 The broader goal is to tear down the system.

00:25:36.000 Now, some of the leaders in the Black Lives Matter movement will say as much.

00:25:40.000 Black Lives Matter founder Patrisse Cullors, she actually came out a few years back in 2015 and expressed what exactly her goals were.

00:25:49.000 She said, yeah, I'm a Marxist.

00:25:50.000 We're afraid of Marxists.

00:25:51.000 Like, our goal is to tear down the system.

00:25:55.000 I think that the criticism is helpful.

00:26:00.000 I also think that it might... I think of a lot of things.

00:26:05.000 The first thing I think is that we actually do have an ideological frame.

00:26:09.000 Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers.

00:26:14.000 We are trained Marxists.

00:26:18.000 We are...

00:26:21.000 Super versed on sort of ideological theories.

00:26:29.000 It's not about stopping racism for a lot of the people who are involved in this.

00:26:32.000 It is about stopping the system itself because the system itself is supposedly an outgrowth of racism and bigotry.

00:26:37.000 By the way, this is one of the problems that a lot of people, people on the left, they don't understand.

00:26:40.000 People on the right say, why won't you just say Black Lives Matter?

00:26:43.000 Okay, I'm happy to say Black Lives Matter.

00:26:45.000 Black lives do matter, because that's perfectly obvious.

00:26:47.000 It's perfectly obvious that black lives matter.

00:26:49.000 The reason people object to the phrase black lives matter is because there's an actual group called black lives matter.

00:26:54.000 And when people say black lives matter, that is a term that suffers from, in linguistics they call it semantic overload.

00:26:59.000 It is a term that means more than one thing.

00:27:01.000 The group black lives matter is a Marxist group.

00:27:03.000 Okay, the group itself, which is not the movement, right?

00:27:06.000 It's just the group that created the movement.

00:27:08.000 That group is really not a great group.

00:27:10.000 Their website specifically says we call for an end to the systemic racism that allows this culture of corruption to go unchecked and our lives to be taken.

00:27:17.000 We need to defund the police nationally.

00:27:19.000 We demand investment in our communities and the resources to ensure black people not only survive but thrive.

00:27:24.000 If you're with us, add your name to this petition.

00:27:25.000 We disrupt the Western prescribed nuclear family structure required In other words, it's a Marxist group.

00:27:36.000 I mean, the BLM website also takes time out to rip on Israel because that's what they do. 0.72

00:27:45.000 It's pretty incredible.

00:27:46.000 So when people object to sort of the Black Lives Matter tag, it's because it's not clear what exactly that means.

00:27:51.000 Because on the one hand, it's perfectly obvious.

00:27:53.000 On the other, it's perfectly not.

00:27:54.000 On the one hand, it's perfectly obvious that Black Lives Matter and everyone, 100% of Americans, virtually agrees with this idea.

00:27:59.000 And the ones who don't are significant outliers that everybody despises.

00:28:03.000 And then you have people who are the Black Lives Matter organizers and leaders and members of that group.

00:28:09.000 And the group itself is really not great and is pushing an agenda that has very little to do with fighting racism.

00:28:15.000 Coming up in just a second, I want to talk about the generational shift that is going on.

00:28:18.000 Because one of the things that we are watching right now is a repeat of the 60s.

00:28:22.000 When you had an older generation that had acknowledged its sins and allowed the younger generation to run roughshod over them.

00:28:28.000 Well today, you have the same thing.

00:28:29.000 An older generation that is allowing the younger generation to run roughshod over them.

00:28:32.000 The only difference is that back in the 1960s, at least you could make the claim that the older generation had not done enough about racism.

00:28:38.000 Now, the older generation is being run roughshod over by its children who, by and large, have not suffered in a racist America.

00:28:44.000 If you're 20 years old living in the United States, the chances that you suffered from deep, deep personal racism are a lot lower than they were back in the 1960s by every available metric.

00:28:54.000 The idea that there are systems of power that are designed to keep you down is just not true in the United States in 2020.

00:29:00.000 It hasn't been true for quite a while in the United States.

00:29:03.000 It was made federally illegal in the 1960s.

00:29:04.000 That doesn't mean racism went away.

00:29:06.000 It doesn't mean that you haven't experienced any racism in your life.

00:29:09.000 It means the system is not meant to keep you down.

00:29:11.000 And your parents are not the bad guys.

00:29:13.000 Your parents were not complicit in the system.

00:29:16.000 Okay, but we have a generational war that is going on right now.

00:29:19.000 We're going to get to that in just one second because there's an incredible article in the New York Times talking about this, and it does speak to the, I would say, dismal future of the country if young people get their way on this thing. 0.51

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00:30:38.000 Okay, so there's a generational thing going on here.

00:30:41.000 So as I've talked about on the show before, in the 1960s, and I keep quoting Shelby Steele here because I think that his insight here is really valuable.

00:30:47.000 Shelby Steele talks about that in the 1960s, there was a younger generation and they looked at an older generation that had been complicit in an actual legalized system Of racial discrimination.

00:30:56.000 And they said, you don't have any moral legitimacy anymore.

00:30:58.000 And on the basis of that lever, they proceeded to tear down entire systems.

00:31:03.000 Everything from traditional sexual mores to the destruction of the educational system.

00:31:10.000 Everything had to go.

00:31:11.000 Everything had to go.

00:31:12.000 Because the idea was our parents have no moral legitimacy anymore.

00:31:16.000 And there was at least truth to the idea that their parents' generation, that the boomers' parents, had been complicit in a system of racism. 0.64

00:31:24.000 That was particularly true in the South, but it was true federally, right?

00:31:27.000 That was true.

00:31:28.000 Now fast forward to 2020, and the kids are now doing it to their parents.

00:31:32.000 So you have millennials who are doing it to Gen Xers, and you have Gen Xers who are doing it to the boomers.

00:31:38.000 And the basic idea here is that the same people who were ripping on their parents back in the 60s are now being ripped by their children for quote-unquote not doing enough.

00:31:45.000 Now, there's only one problem with this, which is the evidence is pretty scanty there.

00:31:49.000 The evidence is really, really scanty.

00:31:51.000 It doesn't really exist that the Baby Boomers and the Millennials and the Gen Xers, that those people are deeply, viciously racist.

00:32:00.000 That evidence just isn't there.

00:32:02.000 And more importantly, one of the things that is happening is when you attribute to racism the effects of failures of personal responsibility, you actually end up removing autonomy from people.

00:32:13.000 And when you suggest that the system is responsible for individual failings, what you end up doing is creating a discouraging situation for young people.

00:32:20.000 You tell them that all the problems in your life are not your fault.

00:32:23.000 They are the fault of your parents' generation. 1.00

00:32:25.000 They are the fault of the system.

00:32:27.000 That is not a recipe for success.

00:32:29.000 It is not.

00:32:30.000 It is a recipe for failure.

00:32:31.000 One of the worst things you can do to a child is tell them that they do not have the capacity to rise in the freest country in the history of the world.

00:32:38.000 A country that is diverse and multicultural and allows opportunities and equal rights under law, right?

00:32:45.000 That country is a problem and that your parents just don't get it.

00:32:48.000 They don't get it because, you know, they may be thinking of the old framework where if you remove the obstacles, then you have opportunities.

00:32:53.000 But they need to think of the new framework wherein anything short of utopia is evidence of discrimination.

00:33:00.000 This is leading to a younger generation who have decided that their actual quest in life is to tear down the system that provides them opportunities because they don't wish to take advantage of the opportunities themselves.

00:33:09.000 There's an incredible article in the Washington Post today.

00:33:11.000 It's called, Young Asians and Latinos Push Their Parents to Acknowledge Racism Amid Protests.

00:33:17.000 This is pretty incredible because, let's be frank about this, young Asians and Latinos are experiencing a lot less racism in the United States than their parents or grandparents did.

00:33:26.000 That is perfectly obvious.

00:33:28.000 Anti-Asian sentiment in the 1980s was much stronger than anti-Asian sentiment in 2020.

00:33:33.000 Anti-Latino sentiment in the 1970s and 80s, much, much stronger than anti-Latino sentiment in 2020.

00:33:40.000 Perfectly obvious by every available metric.

00:33:44.000 But now you have young people who are pushing their parents and basically saying that their parents are racist.

00:33:48.000 Why?

00:33:48.000 Because their parents keep saying things like individual responsibility.

00:33:52.000 Their parents keep saying things like meritocracy.

00:33:55.000 Their parents keep teaching them things like work hard.

00:33:58.000 And by doing that, they are complicit in the system.

00:34:00.000 According to the Washington Post, the argument began as soon as Charlie Mai and his brother Henry announced their plans to attend a Black Lives Matter protest that evening in D.C.

00:34:07.000 Their father was not having it.

00:34:09.000 Glenn Mai, a retired FBI agent, had been raised in Dallas by Chinese immigrants who had taught him he would succeed if he just worked hard.

00:34:14.000 Glenn, 54, said, quote, Chinese culture is very much about working within the system.

00:34:19.000 During decades in law enforcement, he'd come to believe the system worked.

00:34:21.000 His son Charlie, 24, took a different view.

00:34:24.000 My father deeply believes that everyone has a fair chance, which is just basically untrue, said Charlie, an artist who fled New York for his family's home in northern Virginia because of the pandemic.

00:34:32.000 It's very Asian to me, that view that if everyone just works hard, then everything will turn out all right for them.

00:34:36.000 I'm definitely a little reactive to that because I think that's delusional.

00:34:40.000 Okay, I have a question for Charlie.

00:34:41.000 Charlie's an artist in New York, presumably being subsidized by his parents.

00:34:46.000 His dad, who's 54, which means that he grew up in the 1970s and 1980s, his dad, who's 54, who's presumably in Dallas as a Chinese immigrant, that is not exactly a recipe, you would think, for never experiencing racial discrimination, says, work hard and you'll get ahead.

00:35:02.000 And then he tells his son, you know what happened?

00:35:04.000 I worked hard and I got ahead.

00:35:05.000 And then his son, who's an artist in New York, is like, you know what?

00:35:07.000 Racism.

00:35:08.000 You know what?

00:35:09.000 Racism is keeping people down.

00:35:10.000 Maybe you should listen to your dad.

00:35:12.000 Because maybe your dad has more life experience. 0.99

00:35:14.000 Maybe your dad went through more crap than you did. 0.92

00:35:17.000 Maybe it's pretty ungrateful for you to disparage the country that gave your father the opportunity that he himself recognizes he got. 0.99

00:35:24.000 Maybe that's an absurdity.

00:35:26.000 That June morning, amid the yelling and the tears, Glenn threatened to walk out when it became clear that Charlie and Henry, 22, planned to defy the city's 7 p.m.

00:35:33.000 curfew.

00:35:34.000 In the end, however, he drove downtown to bring his son safely home.

00:35:37.000 The argument over the protest's police brutality and systemic racism has since softened into an extended conversation.

00:35:42.000 During the Civil Rights Movement, black parents and their children may have disagreed over speed and strategy, but their shared experience of discrimination united them on the cause.

00:35:49.000 Non-black allies, many of them Jewish Americans, were a clear minority in the 1960s.

00:35:53.000 By contrast, the youth-led protests unfolding now in response to the killing of a black man by a white Minneapolis police officer are much more diverse.

00:35:59.000 There are a large number of African Americans who have supported the BLM movement since its 2014 founding, and many native-born black and white newcomers whose lives have often differed dramatically from their parents.

00:36:09.000 But there's also an unprecedentedly large segment of protesters from other backgrounds.

00:36:14.000 Some are descended from immigrants who moved to the United States generations ago, while many others come from families that have arrived in great waves since the civil rights movement spurred passage of the Immigration and Naturalization Act in 1965.

00:36:26.000 I think what you are seeing is a decades-long transformation.

00:36:28.000 We have arrived at a real cultural shift, said Jose Antonio Vargas, founder of Define America, an immigration advocacy organization and former Washington Post reporter.

00:36:35.000 Of course, he's on the far left.

00:36:38.000 In forming a new kind of majority with black and white protesters, Asian and Latino and other young allies are fighting, are uniting in fighting anti-black racism and in many cases are pushing their mothers and fathers to understand why change is necessary.

00:36:49.000 So, basically, parents are being called out by their children.

00:36:53.000 Why are they being called out by their children?

00:36:54.000 Because they themselves are saying things like, you know what?

00:36:56.000 I came to this country, I worked really hard, I got ahead.

00:36:58.000 Can you please stop disparaging the country that gave me that opportunity?

00:37:01.000 And their kids are like, you know what?

00:37:03.000 No.

00:37:04.000 You know what?

00:37:04.000 No, you're wrong, mom and dad.

00:37:06.000 I, a 24-year-old artist living in New York on your subsidy, I have been victimized by America, and America is deeply evil and racist.

00:37:15.000 There's a person named Giselle Quintero, a Washington Post quoter.

00:37:20.000 She says, it upset me to see how unjustly black people are being treated.

00:37:23.000 I have a platform in this little community, so I knew I had to do something to help out.

00:37:26.000 In early June, she posted news on social media of a protest in front of a mall near her house.

00:37:30.000 Her parents, Mexican-American business owners and strong Trump supporters, vocally opposed her plans. 1.00

00:37:34.000 At first, my parents were like, this is stupid. 1.00

00:37:36.000 All lives matter. 1.00

00:37:37.000 They didn't understand the big picture of it, that the system is so messed up, nobody deserves to have a knee on the neck for eight minutes over a $20 counterfeit bill.

00:37:44.000 Quintero says she grew up hearing her grandparents tell stories about how they were prohibited from drinking at whites-only fountains after long hot days of working in the fields.

00:37:51.000 They just kind of suppressed those memories and tried to distinguish themselves by their hard work and achievement, Quintero said, and they're still not being accepted by the white community.

00:37:58.000 Okay, hold up a second.

00:37:59.000 So your grandparents were segregated at water fountains and working in the fields and then took the opportunities afforded to them and made an incredible life for themselves, and you're going to lecture them on their subsumed racism?

00:38:12.000 You're going to lecture them on their integration of white supremacist ideals?

00:38:17.000 What have you gone through, young person?

00:38:20.000 You literally just said that your grandparents drank in segregated water fountains and worked in the fields.

00:38:25.000 Your great act of heroism is that you went and stood in a parking lot after posting on Facebook?

00:38:31.000 The point here is that many of the people who are currently protesting and are going after their parents, they've deemed themselves, as I mentioned yesterday, a new generation of better people.

00:38:40.000 And here's the thing, this new generation of better people, I'm not seeing a lot of evidence that they're a new generation of better people.

00:38:45.000 I'm not.

00:38:46.000 I'm not seeing a lot of evidence that they're doing many worthwhile things that are making the country a better place.

00:38:52.000 That doesn't mean that, again, for the 1000th time, marching against police brutality is a bad thing.

00:38:57.000 It means that when you're calling out your parents and suggesting that your parents are part of the racist system, when they're the ones who actually went through racism and you haven't even seen it, I'm gonna go no on that.

00:39:05.000 I'm gonna suggest that this is self-righteousness masquerading as righteousness on behalf of others.

00:39:11.000 And that there is no actual end goal here.

00:39:14.000 That the end goal here is the self-righteousness.

00:39:16.000 That the end goal for many of the people who are claiming that America is a systemically racist system is making themselves feel good.

00:39:23.000 I have more proof of this in just one second.

00:39:25.000 There's a Washington Post piece called, Is This Time Different?

00:39:28.000 Talking about how there's so many people who support the Black Lives Matter protests, but is this time different?

00:39:32.000 There's not a single policy prescription in the entire article.

00:39:35.000 Because in the end, it is all about what slogans you say to make yourself feel good for many people.

00:39:40.000 For many, many people.

00:39:41.000 And you're seeing this in personal activity, by the way. 0.93

00:39:43.000 I mean, there's videos emerging that are just hilarious of white women screaming at black police officers over systemic American racism. 0.99

00:39:51.000 Because they read Robin DiAngelo's White Fragility or something, one of the dumbest books ever written. 0.99

00:39:56.000 There's a clip. 0.98

00:39:59.000 That there's a clip of a man, Captain Anti-Racism Manbun, abusing a black police officer. 0.77

00:40:07.000 The white guy's not wearing a shirt, he's wearing a manbun, and he's yelling at a black police officer to fight racism.

00:40:11.000 And what? 0.92

00:40:14.000 And what?

00:40:15.000 You've got rights, you know, you can't just beat him if you don't like him. 1.00

00:40:19.000 Your child's gonna tell you you're a piece of shit. 1.00

00:40:22.000 Your mom's gonna tell you you're a piece of shit. 1.00

00:40:25.000 As your mother does it, I feel sorry for her. 1.00

00:40:28.000 I'm so sorry for your family. 1.00

00:40:31.000 You're a piece of s***. 1.00

00:40:33.000 You're a piece of s***. 1.00

00:40:34.000 You really are. 1.00

00:40:35.000 You really are.

00:40:37.000 Does anybody think that that's fighting racism?

00:40:39.000 Or is it possible that this is a lot of people, many of these people, particularly the white woke liberals, who are making themselves feel really good on the back of no actual agenda because this is all about a primal cry of, I matter.

00:40:51.000 Maybe I haven't accomplished anything, but I matter, and I know better than my parents, and my parents may have accomplished something, but you know what?

00:40:57.000 I matter because I posted a square on Facebook.

00:41:00.000 That's what truly matters here.

00:41:02.000 That is not making the world a better place, but I think that for many of the particularly white, woke folks, this is not about making the world a better place.

00:41:09.000 It's about relieving the feelings of inferiority they have about their own lives, and then trying to suggest that their parents are the bad guys in this particular scenario.

00:41:20.000 Let me get to more of this in just one second.

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00:42:35.000 Alrighty, we're gonna get into more of this, more of the virtue signaling at the expense of your parents who actually went through stuff and were involved in actual change.

00:42:43.000 Like, the lack of respect for elders here is truly astonishing.

00:42:46.000 It's truly an amazing, amazing thing.

00:42:47.000 And the broadening of the agenda out from, you know, police brutality is bad, to everything, to tear down stained glass windows of white Jesus, and tear down every statue you can find, and this is all justified because it's year zero? 0.78

00:42:59.000 That smacks of nothing so much as a bored population assuming that the sort of natural state of things is stasis and peace.

00:43:07.000 And as we're about to find out, that is absolutely not the natural state of things.

00:43:10.000 We'll get to that in a moment.

00:43:11.000 First, if you're not already a Daily Wire member, you should consider getting a reader's pass to dailywire.com.

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00:43:34.000 Also, my new book is out July 21st.

00:43:36.000 It's called How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps.

00:43:38.000 It is all the things.

00:43:39.000 It is all the things.

00:43:40.000 We are watching it take place in real time.

00:43:42.000 I'm not saying I'm a prophet.

00:43:44.000 All I'm saying is that this book, which was written back in December and January, it literally could not be more relevant.

00:43:49.000 The basic premise of the book is that there's a group of people, I call them the disintegrationists in America, who are seeking to destroy American history.

00:43:56.000 The 1619 Project comes in for some criticism.

00:43:59.000 They're seeking to destroy American history. 0.80

00:44:01.000 They're seeking to destroy American philosophy, the idea of equal rights before the law.

00:44:04.000 And they're seeking to destroy our culture of rights, suggesting that rights like free speech are a threat to people of color, are a threat to minorities in the United States.

00:44:13.000 It's really ugly.

00:44:14.000 It's really bad.

00:44:15.000 My book isn't just a critique of the disintegrationist position.

00:44:18.000 It debunked a lot of their arguments.

00:44:20.000 It's a very, very useful tool for you in not only discerning what exactly is going on, but in fighting back against the insanity that we are currently seeing.

00:44:28.000 Again, it's called How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps.

00:44:30.000 I think it's really deeply important.

00:44:31.000 Go pre-order it today at dailywire.com slash ben.

00:44:34.000 That is dailywire.com slash ben.

00:44:36.000 You're listening to the largest, fastest growing conservative podcast and radio show in the nation.

00:44:39.000 So what will it all add up to?

00:44:48.000 Supposedly, we are in a time of change.

00:44:52.000 This momentous change time.

00:44:53.000 Have you seen a lot of talk about policy?

00:44:55.000 Have you?

00:44:56.000 There was a police reform bill that was put forward by Republicans.

00:44:59.000 It's basically stalled for the moment.

00:45:00.000 Maybe it'll pass, maybe it won't.

00:45:01.000 Does anyone think that that's going to satisfy anybody?

00:45:04.000 Instead, what we have decided is that we are in a perpetual cultural revolution.

00:45:08.000 A perpetual cultural revolution.

00:45:10.000 And that's the only thing that matters.

00:45:11.000 The only thing that matters is the cancel culture. 0.77

00:45:13.000 The actual legislation doesn't matter because guess what?

00:45:15.000 Discrimination has been illegal in the United States in employment and housing.

00:45:19.000 It's been illegal for decades in the United States.

00:45:22.000 Federally.

00:45:23.000 But the idea here is that we have reached a new moment.

00:45:26.000 Now, the media never defined what the new moment is, and herein lies the key.

00:45:30.000 There is no end goal here.

00:45:32.000 There is no end goal.

00:45:33.000 The only end goal is the perpetual attempt to get people to atone of sins they did not commit, and to blame the country and their parents for all of the problems that they experience in their lives.

00:45:44.000 You know, the only successful societies ever built, and the only successful people who have ever lived, are people who believe they have their own agency.

00:45:50.000 People who believe they have agency in their own lives and have the capacity to act within their own lives successfully.

00:45:54.000 We are forthwith building a society that is pushing the notion extraordinarily hard that you have no agency.

00:46:01.000 That all the things in your life are built upon systems, and those systems deprive you of agency.

00:46:05.000 So you are never responsible for your own decisions.

00:46:08.000 Case in point, article in the New York Times.

00:46:10.000 White Americans say they are waking up to racism.

00:46:12.000 What will it add up to?

00:46:14.000 One recent afternoon while washing his car, Greg Reese, a white stay-at-home dad in Campton, Kentucky, peeled off a Confederate flag magnet he'd placed on its trunk six years earlier.

00:46:22.000 He did not put it back on.

00:46:23.000 It was a small act for which he expected no accolades.

00:46:25.000 It should not have taken the police killing of George Floyd, Mr. Reese knew, to face what he had long known to be true, that the flag he had grown up thinking of as a beautiful trophy was a symbol of hate, and it's obviously wrong, to glorify it.

00:46:35.000 So, number one, I have a question.

00:46:37.000 It says it was a small act for which he expected no accolades.

00:46:40.000 Why is it leading a piece in the New York Times?

00:46:42.000 How did that end up in the New York Times?

00:46:44.000 You expect no accolades for it, but you're talking to the New York Times about it?

00:46:46.000 Seems kind of like you expect a few accolades.

00:46:48.000 The sustained outcry over Mr. Floyd's death has compelled many white Americans to acknowledge the anti-black racism that is prevalent in the United States, and to perhaps even examine their own culpability for it.

00:46:58.000 It is as though the ability of white people to collectively ignore the everyday experience of black people has been short-circuited, at least for now.

00:47:05.000 By the way, this is a news article, this is not an opinion article.

00:47:08.000 Right?

00:47:09.000 As though the ability of white people to collectively ignore the everyday experience of black people has been short-circuited, at least for now.

00:47:14.000 So the assumptions that are baked into this cake, which is that all black people experience the same racism in the United States, that all black people are ground under the boot heel of America's systemic evils, That is the premise of the article.

00:47:25.000 Large numbers of white Americans have attended racial justice demonstrations, purchased books about racial inequality, and registered for webinars on how to raise children who are anti-racist.

00:47:33.000 Some have asked themselves pointed questions, like how much professional advantage they have garnered from being white, and whether they would willingly cede it if they could.

00:47:40.000 Others are going to tattoo parlors to cover up images of Confederate flags, swastikas, and Ku Klux Klan symbols on their bodies.

00:47:45.000 Okay, question.

00:47:46.000 Like, what are the percentages here?

00:47:48.000 Seriously, like how many people had the KKK symbol on their body and didn't know it was racist?

00:47:52.000 I feel like that one you probably should have known, guys.

00:47:54.000 You probably should have known.

00:47:56.000 The New York Times says, it's hard to know how deep or wide these responses run, and whether they are the result of pressure from peers to appear tolerant, or if meaningful action will follow.

00:48:05.000 Anti-racism activists have specified concerns that are not only about symbols or slurs, but entire governing systems about how Americans live.

00:48:12.000 Okay, and then it doesn't suggest anything that Americans can actually do to fix these systems.

00:48:16.000 Nothing.

00:48:17.000 Like, literally nothing.

00:48:17.000 The entire article is just about how white people are now recognizing that America's bad.

00:48:22.000 And that's the first step to change.

00:48:24.000 That's the first step to change, is recognizing that America is bad.

00:48:27.000 And then recognizing your own culpability in the badness of America.

00:48:31.000 That's really what this is about.

00:48:33.000 Now, the problem is that once you start down that process, there is no end to the process.

00:48:36.000 Because America is not utopia, and never will be.

00:48:39.000 Because utopia doesn't exist.

00:48:41.000 And in fact, the places where we are attempting to establish utopia are falling apart pretty quickly.

00:48:45.000 So, the Chaz Zone in Seattle, Chaz Chop, is coming to an inglorious end. 1.00

00:48:49.000 Remember Mayor Jenny Durkan?

00:48:50.000 Remember her?

00:48:51.000 She was the one who suggested that it was basically an outdoor street fair, and that she was just gonna allow it to happen.

00:48:55.000 It was all good times over there until a couple people got shot a couple nights ago and the cops couldn't get in because protesters were blocking the cops from getting in.

00:49:02.000 Well now, Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan said that the Seattle Police Department will be returning to its abandoned East Precinct building peacefully and in the near future.

00:49:10.000 Following a weekend in which three people were shot at the edges of the protest area that has emerged around the building.

00:49:15.000 Durkin said the city would attempt to phase down nighttime activity in the Capitol Hill organized protest area, known as CHOP or earlier as CHAZ, but would not be using police to clear the zone.

00:49:24.000 Rather, said Durkin, they'd be asking people to leave the area voluntarily at night, offering resources for homeless people and working with community groups to try to cajole people to leave the area, where dozens of tents have sprouted up in recent weeks, along with couches, guerrilla gardens, and graffiti.

00:49:39.000 Guerrilla like G-U-E-R-R-I-L-L-A.

00:49:41.000 Guerrilla gardens and graffiti.

00:49:43.000 Durkin said, it's time for people to go home.

00:49:45.000 It's time for us to restore Cal Anderson and Capitol Hill so it can be a vibrant part of our community.

00:49:49.000 But I thought it was a vibrant part of the community.

00:49:50.000 I was informed that this autonomous republic, this autonomous zone, was a full flowering of American democracy.

00:49:56.000 Jay Inslee literally said that Trump hates democracy for saying that he didn't like CHAZ and that it was a separatist organization inside a major American city.

00:50:02.000 Zirkin said the impacts on the businesses and residents in the community are now too much.

00:50:05.000 Oh, now they are!

00:50:06.000 Oh, I see.

00:50:07.000 Now, she just expects that she's going to be able to send over a few people to be like, you know, guys, if you could clear this, that'd be really great.

00:50:13.000 They've built up barricades there.

00:50:14.000 So I'm really looking forward to seeing how exactly the CHAZ chop comes to an end. 0.97

00:50:20.000 See, one of the great lies about where we are in American history is this belief that this is the norm.

00:50:26.000 That the great peace and prosperity we've experienced as a people over the last several decades, that that is the norm in human life.

00:50:31.000 And that you can rip down all of the systems and maintain the norm.

00:50:34.000 You can rip down equal rights before law and maintain the norm.

00:50:37.000 That you can change the definition of racism from actual racism to the systems of oppression are preventing people from expressing themselves fully and all failures of personal responsibility are attributable to the system.

00:50:48.000 You can redefine racism as that and that that won't have any impact on the systems in which we live.

00:50:52.000 You can tear down the systems and keep all the good stuff, in other words.

00:50:55.000 You can just tear away the roots of a building and then expect that the building is going to stand on air.

00:51:00.000 That's not the way any of this works.

00:51:01.000 It ends up more like Chaz Chop.

00:51:03.000 It ends up more like separate black and white zones.

00:51:06.000 Which is, by the way, something that white protesters were creating inside Chazz Chop.

00:51:09.000 There was video of them separating people out. 0.90

00:51:11.000 Because they wanted to make safe spaces for black people.

00:51:14.000 Which is also called segregation.

00:51:16.000 Okay, that is a bad thing, typically, in the United States.

00:51:19.000 You separate people on the basis of race.

00:51:22.000 Even the left recognizes that in practical terms what they are calling for is not a thing that is practical.

00:51:27.000 Which is exactly why the D.C.

00:51:28.000 police refused to allow the setting up of a Black House autonomous zone outside the White House.

00:51:34.000 And the D.C.

00:51:35.000 police, by the way, stopped the tearing down of an Andrew Jackson statue in Lafayette Park on Monday night.

00:51:42.000 Also, the members of the Black House Autonomous Zone decided that they were going to spray paint St. 0.97

00:51:48.000 John's Church again.

00:51:49.000 So that's great.

00:51:50.000 There have been like a couple of pictures of that.

00:51:52.000 President Trump appears outside there.

00:51:54.000 It's a big picture.

00:51:54.000 They try to burn it down and they spray paint it, the protesters slash rioters, and that's totally fine.

00:52:00.000 Totally no big deal.

00:52:02.000 By the way, question, is the mayor, Mayor Bowser over in DC, is she a racist now? 0.99

00:52:08.000 Because she's shutting down the Black House Autonomous Zone. 0.98

00:52:11.000 I've been reliably informed that if you're a member of a system of power and you do not allow these sorts of flowerings of democracy to occur, that you are part of the racist problem in America today.

00:52:21.000 As the agenda gets vaguer and vaguer, the actual agenda gets clearer and clearer.

00:52:25.000 As it turns out that there is no policy agenda, that in reality, what we are watching more and more is a movement dedicated to the destruction of American principles more wholly.

00:52:37.000 Not just fighting racist incidents, and not just fighting police brutality, but something broader.

00:52:44.000 Something completely disconnected from any policy.

00:52:46.000 What we're watching is actually just a cultural revolution, not an actual legislative attempt.

00:52:51.000 It becomes obvious that that's not something that America can go along with and be okay with.

00:52:56.000 If you're trying to tear down America from the root and expect the structure to stand, then you are sadly mistaken.

00:53:02.000 The structure will not stand.

00:53:04.000 The structure will not stand.

00:53:05.000 Alrighty.

00:53:06.000 Well, we've reached the end of today's program, but we'll be back here tomorrow.

00:53:09.000 Sorry, quick note.

00:53:10.000 I want to add a quick thing that I like.

00:53:12.000 So quick thing that I like here.

00:53:13.000 There is a very good book.

00:53:15.000 by a guy named Wesley Yang.

00:53:17.000 He has written for The New Yorker.

00:53:18.000 He is not on the right.

00:53:19.000 He has a book called The Souls of Yellow Folk, obviously named after the book The Souls of Black Folk.

00:53:25.000 And the book of essays is really interesting.

00:53:27.000 It's about Asian Americans in the United States and how they have dealt with discrimination in the United States.

00:53:33.000 He has a couple of incredible essays near the end of the book about the changing phraseology, the change of phraseology from white supremacy to whiteness being the problem, the change of phraseology from racism to systems of oppression.

00:53:46.000 He has a couple of essays in this book that are really worth reading.

00:53:49.000 You should really check it out.

00:53:50.000 The book, again, is called The Souls of Yellow Folk by Wesley Yang.

00:53:53.000 So go check that out.

00:53:54.000 We will be back here tomorrow with much more content on the podcast.

00:53:57.000 Otherwise, we'll see you here later today for two additional hours of content.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - June 23, 2020

Stop Lecturing Your Parents | Ep. 1037

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