The Ben Shapiro Show - Storming The Bastille | Ep. 814

00:00:00.000 Joe Biden vows to free hundreds of thousands of prisoners.

00:00:04.000 The Epstein allegations blow back on both Bill Clinton and the Trump administration.

00:00:07.000 And President Trump's poll numbers actually rise.

00:00:10.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:10.000 This is the Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:11.000 Man, we have a lot to get to today.

00:00:19.000 Mr. Beto, he's back on the road.

00:00:22.000 And now he says that all of America is evil and racist, which is why a white man like Beto O'Rourke should be president of the United States.

00:00:28.000 Very important.

00:00:29.000 We'll also get to Megan Rapinoe, who is making the rounds as the new woke voice of the left.

00:00:34.000 And she is very, very important because she kicks a soccer ball and because she kicks a soccer ball very well. 0.98

00:00:39.000 And this means that she knows all there is to know about politics and also about media and also about everything.

00:00:45.000 She's like Colin Kaepernick, except more inspiring.

00:00:48.000 We'll get to more of that a little bit later on in the show.

00:00:51.000 We begin at this hour with Joe Biden really blowing up his candidacy.

00:00:55.000 It's amazing to watch.

00:00:56.000 If you look at the polls right now, Joe Biden continues to maintain a fairly solid lead in the actual primary polling.

00:01:02.000 So right now, if you look at that real clear politics poll average, which is the only one that really matters at this point because it's so early, Joe Biden is leading the rest of the field by an average of about 12 points.

00:01:12.000 That would be the last 10 polls.

00:01:14.000 There's an Economist YouGov poll that came out yesterday and that showed him up only four points over Elizabeth Warren.

00:01:19.000 But there was an Emerson poll that came out the day before and showed him up 15 points over Elizabeth Warren and the rest of the field.

00:01:25.000 That Economist YouGov poll had the race currently at Joe Biden, 22, Elizabeth Warren, 18, Kamala Harris, 15, and Bernie Sanders, 12.

00:01:33.000 It's pretty obvious that Bernie Sanders is starting to feel the effect of Elizabeth Warren on his flank, and he is starting to drop voters to her.

00:01:41.000 Well, Joe Biden, instead of strongly campaigning toward the middle and maintaining his brand and basically saying, come get me, guys, Come over here and get me.

00:01:50.000 We're 40 percent of the bases.

00:01:51.000 Come over here and find me.

00:01:53.000 Instead, he is swiveling into what the rest of the Democratic Party wants from him.

00:01:59.000 So he is swiveling toward the, quote unquote, majority of the Democratic base.

00:02:03.000 Now, it is true that only a plurality of the Democratic base is, quote unquote, moderate.

00:02:08.000 It's true that a majority of the Democratic base is probably what we would call progressive, maybe even radical.

00:02:13.000 But that progressive base is going to splinter.

00:02:16.000 There's not one candidate for them to rally around.

00:02:18.000 And in fact, the moderate candidate in the last few Democratic presidential cycles has actually seemed to do better in the primaries than the person who's perceived as more radical.

00:02:27.000 That was true in 2004 with John Kerry.

00:02:29.000 It wasn't true in 2008 with Barack Obama, but that's because Barack Obama followed the most simple rule of American politics, run against Hillary Clinton. 0.69

00:02:36.000 That is the number one rule of American politics.

00:02:38.000 If you run against Hillary Clinton in anything but a New York Senate race, you will win.

00:02:42.000 That is the rule.

00:02:43.000 So 2008 was an example that did not fall toward moderation.

00:02:48.000 But obviously by 2016, Hillary Clinton was perceived as moderate against Bernie Sanders.

00:02:54.000 And she ended up winning the nomination on those grounds.

00:02:57.000 Well, Joe Biden has a strategy.

00:02:59.000 His strategy is to embrace his record and say, yes, it turns out that I am kind of moderate.

00:03:05.000 It turns out that while I do want to see change happen, I don't think that America is a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad place.

00:03:10.000 And that was his opening ad.

00:03:12.000 I know it feels like it's been years, but it's only been two and a half, three months since Joe Biden jumped into the race with an ad that he launched by talking about the historic greatness of America, not about historic evil of America.

00:03:23.000 And then he is very quickly shifted over to his left in an attempt to crowd out the rest of the field.

00:03:28.000 Instead, He has been sucked into the rest of the field.

00:03:31.000 I think he was seeing this race as sort of an Indy 500.

00:03:34.000 He was going to swivel out toward the far lanes, drive everybody into the wall.

00:03:40.000 Instead, what has happened is he drove himself directly into a car crash, and now he is involved in that car crash.

00:03:47.000 And he keeps getting more and more radical in his commentary, and it ain't going to help him.

00:03:51.000 So, let's give an example.

00:03:53.000 Yesterday, Joe Biden, there's tape of him, I guess this happened on Sunday, Joe Biden was asked about cutting prison populations in the United States.

00:04:01.000 Now, Joe Biden was responsible for a crime bill in 1994.

00:04:03.000 He was a co-signer of it.

00:04:05.000 Co-sponsor of it.

00:04:07.000 In 1994.

00:04:08.000 That was dramatically helpful in decreasing the crime rates around the United States.

00:04:11.000 I know that we like to forget history conveniently.

00:04:14.000 The fact is, between 1960 and 1994, we had one of the greatest surges in crime in the history of the United States.

00:04:19.000 Probably the greatest surge in crime, violent crime, in the history of the United States.

00:04:24.000 Murder rates were at extraordinary highs in most of America's major cities.

00:04:28.000 They'd risen dramatically across the country.

00:04:30.000 And in 1994, the federal government decided that they were going to crack down on a fair number of crimes and provide new resources for policing to states and localities.

00:04:38.000 And the crime rate began a historic reversal.

00:04:42.000 Unprecedented reversal.

00:04:43.000 The crime rates began to drop in 1994.

00:04:45.000 They continued to drop all the way until the Ferguson effect reversed them in 2014, 2015, 2016.

00:04:50.000 So that was a good thing.

00:04:53.000 But Joe Biden is now being forced to run away from his quote unquote moderate record.

00:04:57.000 He is now being forced to run on the progressive record.

00:04:59.000 And that progressive record is supposed to be Well, let's free all the prisoners.

00:05:03.000 Let's let everybody out of prison.

00:05:04.000 Well, the nice thing about saying let's let everybody out of prison is that you never actually have to deal with what happens when bunches of people are let out of prison.

00:05:13.000 You get to pose yourself as some sort of human rights activist while allowing criminals to wander free on the streets.

00:05:18.000 We've seen this in the state of California.

00:05:20.000 Jerry Brown, the former governor in the state of California, He participated in something called prison realignment instead of providing new funding that was necessary to keep prisoners in prison.

00:05:28.000 He lowered sentences.

00:05:29.000 He reclassified felonies as misdemeanors and the violent crime rate has gone up in the state of California, at least in its major cities.

00:05:35.000 I live in Los Angeles.

00:05:36.000 The quality of life has gone down dramatically with regard to everything from street crime to violent crime as well and drug crime too.

00:05:44.000 All of this is a serious problem, but we're supposed to ignore it because we falsify the stats.

00:05:49.000 It is very easy for Aside from murder, it's very easy to falsify statistics when it comes to crime statistics because police departments will be told by mayors that they need to simply reclassify crimes in different ways and report them differently in order to artificially lower the crime rates.

00:06:04.000 But you can tell in terms of quality of life that California has had a rough time since prison realignment.

00:06:08.000 We're going to get to what Joe Biden had to say in just one second.

00:06:11.000 It is fully insane because this is where he thinks the Democratic Party is.

00:06:15.000 It's like kind of Donald Trump back in 2016 speaking conservatism as a second language.

00:06:19.000 Donald Trump has turned out to govern pretty conservatively.

00:06:21.000 He doesn't know much about conservatism.

00:06:23.000 And in 2016, Trump did this routine where he would sort of estimate where he thought conservatives lay.

00:06:29.000 And so when it came to abortion, for example, he would say, sure, let's prosecute.

00:06:33.000 Let's prosecute women for abortions. 1.00

00:06:34.000 That is not the position.

00:06:35.000 of anyone in the pro-life movement, nor has it been for decades.

00:06:38.000 But because Trump isn't familiar with the pro-life movement, he sort of threw out what he thought they wanted to hear.

00:06:43.000 Now you got Joe Biden doing the same thing with the woke brigade. 0.98

00:06:45.000 Well, now he is going to try and pander to people who are woke by throwing out solutions that make no sense at all.

00:06:52.000 We'll get to that in a second.

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00:08:05.000 Okay, so Joe Biden is now out there proclaiming that he wants to free hundreds of thousands of prisoners.

00:08:12.000 Now, this may be popular with folks on the left.

00:08:15.000 It has never been popular in American politics to say that you actually want to Free hundreds of thousands of prisoners, including violent criminals.

00:08:23.000 This has never been popular.

00:08:24.000 Rudy Giuliani became mayor of New York, New York, as far left the city as it is possible to have in the United States.

00:08:30.000 Rudy Giuliani became a very popular mayor of New York, specifically on the basis of quality of life issues and crime.

00:08:36.000 In Los Angeles, Mayor Richard Reardon did something very similar.

00:08:39.000 Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger was basically elected not just because of the Enron energy crisis out here in Los Angeles and in California, but also because of issues with quality of life.

00:08:51.000 If you want a Republican elected in a country that is shifting to the left, all you have to do is point to quality of life.

00:08:55.000 George H.W.

00:08:56.000 Bush in 1988 may have won the election based on the perception that Michael Dukakis was soft on crime.

00:09:02.000 So, I know that we are now living off the boon, off the bounty, of a 25-year, yeah, 25-year drop in crime rates.

00:09:12.000 I understand all of that, but that doesn't mean that the American people are willing to see a reversal of the crime rates based on violent criminals being released from prison.

00:09:19.000 Why am I making a big deal out of this?

00:09:20.000 Because it's not getting any attention at all.

00:09:21.000 I'm shocked by this.

00:09:22.000 I mean, here's Joe Biden saying he, this is an insane vow.

00:09:26.000 Here's Joe Biden vowing to cut the prison population in the United States by more than 50%, 5-0%, The ACLU has a roadmap for cutting incarceration by 50% through reforms that have been endorsed by both the right and the left, including four other presidential candidates and many conservatives.

00:09:46.000 Do you commit to cutting incarceration by 50% if elected?

00:09:50.000 We can do it more than that.

00:09:53.000 Look, get his name, I'll send you exactly what my program is.

00:09:57.000 Is it a yes or a no?

00:09:59.000 Yeah, the answer is yes.

00:10:01.000 Thank you.

00:10:01.000 And I've got a better plan than you guys have.

00:10:03.000 Okay, the answer is yes, of course, I'm going to reduce prison populations by more than 50%.

00:10:07.000 Now, there's a lot of talk in the United States about mass incarceration.

00:10:10.000 The reason people talk about mass incarceration on the left, particularly, is because a disproportionate number of people in prison, disproportionate to the population statistics, are of minority descent, are black and Hispanic.

00:10:20.000 And this is supposedly a reference to America's deep-seated criminal justice racism.

00:10:26.000 Well, the reality is that unfortunately a disproportionate number of black and Hispanic people in the United States are committing crimes as a percentage of the population generally. 0.99

00:10:34.000 And that is true in everything from murder statistics to violent crime. 0.96

00:10:39.000 There are certain crimes where it's disproportionately white.

00:10:41.000 Crystal meth is a disproportionately white crime. 0.94

00:10:44.000 People who are arrested for crystal meth distribution are disproportionately white.

00:10:48.000 There are certain types of white collar crime that are disproportionately white.

00:10:52.000 But when you're talking about violent crime, if you're talking about murder, for example, the people who are committing murder are disproportionately of minority races.

00:10:59.000 Now, that is not a referendum.

00:11:02.000 That is not a statement about race innately being linked to crime.

00:11:06.000 It is just pointing out that if you are arresting a disproportionate number of people from a population group, That is not necessarily a reference to the racism of the system.

00:11:14.000 That may be a reference to the people who are actually committing the crimes.

00:11:18.000 That's not the fault of the police.

00:11:19.000 That's not the fault of the criminal justice system.

00:11:21.000 So, and that's the entire basis of the let's-free-hundreds-of-thousands-of-people-from-prison argument, is that the system is inherently racist, and therefore we need to let hundreds of thousands of people out, and we're going to reduce prison populations by 50%.

00:11:33.000 So let's look at what the prison populations of the United States actually look like in terms of the crimes that they have committed.

00:11:39.000 Because I don't care about the race of people in prison.

00:11:41.000 I don't care about the race of people in any industry.

00:11:43.000 I don't care about the race of people in the United States generally.

00:11:45.000 I'm not interested in the racial demographics of the United States.

00:11:49.000 I care much more about what people think and what people do.

00:11:51.000 Because I thought we were supposed to not care about people's race because that's called racism.

00:11:55.000 So instead, let's focus on what people have done to get themselves in prison.

00:11:58.000 Now, we can all agree, if somebody is innocent and in prison, they should not be in prison.

00:12:02.000 We all agree on that.

00:12:03.000 So the question now is, which guilty criminals should we allow to go free?

00:12:07.000 Because that's what Joe Biden is talking about.

00:12:09.000 He's not suggesting that lots of innocent people are in prison.

00:12:11.000 He is suggesting that a lot of people who have been convicted of actual crimes ought to go free.

00:12:15.000 And he says more than 50% should be released.

00:12:16.000 So let's look at the actual percentages of people who are in prison.

00:12:20.000 So first of all, the vast majority of people in prison, and by the vast majority, I mean 13 out of every 15 people who are in prison, are in state prisons, not federal penitentiaries.

00:12:30.000 And most crimes that are committed in the United States are state-level crimes.

00:12:33.000 And most of those crimes happen to be violent crimes.

00:12:36.000 Contrary to popular opinion, the vast majority of crimes for which people are in jail are not people who are picked up for smoking dope on the street.

00:12:43.000 That is simply not correct.

00:12:45.000 When you look at the state prisons, this is information from the Prison Policy Initiative, which is a fairly left-wing group on prison policy.

00:12:52.000 They have a solid breakdown here.

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00:12:59.000 State prisons currently hold about 1.3 million people.

00:13:01.000 712,000 of those people are in prison for violent crimes.

00:13:07.000 137,000 for assault, 172,000 for robbery, 163,000 for rape or sexual assault, 18,000 for manslaughter, 179,000 for murder.

00:13:09.000 172,000 for robbery, 163,000 for rape or sexual assault, 18,000 for manslaughter, 179,000 for murder.

00:13:17.000 So that means the single largest plurality of people who are in prison for violent crime are in for murder.

00:13:23.000 So that's a lot of people who ought to be in prison.

00:13:27.000 It seems to me if you commit an assault or robbery, a rape or sexual assault, manslaughter or murder, there's a very solid case that you should be in prison.

00:13:32.000 And that represents over half of the people who are in state prisons.

00:13:35.000 Then there are another 235,000 people who are in state prison for a property crime.

00:13:40.000 And that would be fraud, burglary, theft, car theft, other property.

00:13:44.000 That's a large share of folks.

00:13:48.000 Okay, about 200,000 people are in prison for drug, for drug possession, for drug crimes.

00:13:54.000 The vast majority of those people are not in for drug possession.

00:13:58.000 First of all, most of the time when people are in prison for drug possession, it is because they pled down from drug trafficking.

00:14:02.000 It's because a drug dealer was picked up and then cut a plea deal in which they pled guilty to speed up the system and they went to jail for drug possession, which is a lower sentence.

00:14:11.000 They had their sentence degraded.

00:14:12.000 I worked in a prosecutor's office for a summer.

00:14:14.000 This is how it works.

00:14:15.000 And the vast majority of those people, even the ones who plead guilty to drug possession, are not actually going to jail for drug possession.

00:14:21.000 It is a pled down offense.

00:14:23.000 Other drug crimes represent the vast majority, as in 75% of all the people who are in state prison for drug crimes.

00:14:29.000 And then you have 151,000 people who are in jail on the basis of what they call public order offenses, which is, for example, weapons possession, possession of illegal weapons, or driving under the influence.

00:14:42.000 So which of those people do you feel like ought to be released?

00:14:44.000 According to Joe Biden, half those people ought to be released.

00:14:47.000 Where is that going to come from?

00:14:48.000 And since over half of those people are in prison for violent crimes, that means that if you were to release everyone who is not in prison for a violent crime on the state level, Everyone.

00:14:58.000 That would still only represent about 40% of the people who are in state prison, so you still have to have another 10% coming from somewhere.

00:15:04.000 That means you would have to release about 118,000, by this chart, 118,000 violent criminals onto the streets of the United States.

00:15:11.000 You think it's going to make America a better place or a worse place to have violent criminals walking around?

00:15:15.000 Okay, so let's even assume that we're talking about federal prisons and jails.

00:15:19.000 So if you look at federal prisons and jails, what you see Is that contrary again to popular opinion, the majority of people who are in federal prison are in federal prison for non-drug offenses.

00:15:32.000 Okay, 75,000 people, 76,000 people, according to the Bureau of Prisons, are in prison for drug offensives.

00:15:37.000 That represents about 45% of the total number of people in the federal pen for drug offenses.

00:15:42.000 Again, the vast majority of those people are not in for drug possession.

00:15:45.000 The vast majority of those people are in for drug trafficking, meaning you have a drug dealer on the street who is dealing to kids, right?

00:15:51.000 Somebody who is importing Now, if you want to make the case that we ought to legalize drugs in the United States, you want to make the full libertarian case, that's a case I'm willing to hear.

00:16:08.000 But if the case that you are making is that there's going to be no negative impact to releasing drug traffickers back onto the streets of the United States, let's hear that case, gang.

00:16:19.000 I can see the costs and the benefits of this particular case, but I'm not feeling that people are making honest arguments about this sort of stuff.

00:16:25.000 There will be costs to releasing drug traffickers back onto the streets.

00:16:29.000 Those people are not generally going to go get a job at the local Walgreens.

00:16:33.000 Many of those people are going to go right back to crime.

00:16:36.000 The recidivism rate in the United States is extraordinarily high.

00:16:40.000 The recidivism rate for many crimes in the United States is upward of 75 or 80 percent.

00:16:46.000 Take, for example, California.

00:16:48.000 According to a 2012 report by the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, more than 65% of people released from California's prison system are back in prison within three years.

00:17:00.000 According to the National Statistics on Recidivism, The National Institute of Justice reporting 60% of arrests occurred during the years four through nine.

00:17:10.000 An estimated 68% of all released prisoners were arrested within three years, 79% within six years, 83% within nine years.

00:17:20.000 Those recidivism rates are incredibly, incredibly high.

00:17:22.000 So let's not pretend that these folks are going to go back to living a life of crime-free existence.

00:17:28.000 The vast majority of them won't.

00:17:29.000 Some of them will.

00:17:30.000 Some of them will.

00:17:31.000 If we could pick and choose which ones would, then there's a case for early release for those people.

00:17:35.000 But if you're just talking about blanket release of an enormous number of people, like Joe Biden is apparently talking about, releasing half the prison population, Good luck with all of that.

00:17:44.000 Good luck with all that.

00:17:45.000 But again, this is not directed toward anything remotely like a policy that is workable.

00:17:49.000 Joe Biden wouldn't do any of this as president.

00:17:51.000 This is exactly like when Kamala Harris was ripping into Joe Biden over supposedly not backing forced busing. 1.00

00:17:57.000 And then she was asked, so do you support forced busing?

00:17:59.000 And she's like, no, not really.

00:18:02.000 And people should use it as a tool, but I'm not really, not really going to impose forced busing from above.

00:18:10.000 In other words, right now, the Democratic Party primary is a bunch of virtue signaling.

00:18:14.000 And if people take that virtue signaling as an actual platform, they're going to be scared to death, which is the reason that the polls for President Trump I've been rising consistently in the general election numbers.

00:18:25.000 There's a very good poll out for President Trump yesterday from Emerson, and it showed a bunch of head-to-heads of Democrats.

00:18:31.000 Now, in most of the head-to-heads prior to this, Trump had been in a little bit of trouble against most of the Democrats, although there is a trend.

00:18:39.000 The trend is that Trump is basically even with all the Democrats except for Biden.

00:18:43.000 That is from the two last polls.

00:18:45.000 So there was an ABC News Washington Post poll that came out on Sunday, and here's what it showed.

00:18:49.000 It showed Biden 53, Trump 43.

00:18:50.000 That one's the outlier, right?

00:18:52.000 And that is because Biden is widely known.

00:18:54.000 He is perceived as moderate.

00:18:56.000 The further left he moves, the worse it is for him. 1.00

00:18:58.000 He's making himself vulnerable with this sort of stupidity. 1.00

00:19:02.000 But running against Kamala Harris, Trump is basically in a dead heat. 1.00

00:19:05.000 It's Harris 48, Trump 46, according to ABC News Washington Post.

00:19:09.000 It is Sanders 49, Trump 48, according to ABC News Washington Post.

00:19:13.000 Warren and Trump tied at 48.

00:19:14.000 Buttigieg and Trump tied at 47, according to the ABC News Washington Post poll from Sunday.

00:19:20.000 And then those results are mirrored in the Emerson poll.

00:19:22.000 So according to the Emerson poll, Biden is up six.

00:19:24.000 He's the only one with a clear lead on Trump right now.

00:19:27.000 Trump actually beats Kamala Harris by two, according to that poll. 0.56

00:19:31.000 He is behind by two to Bernie Sanders, 51-49.

00:19:35.000 He's at 51 against Warren and 51 against Buttigieg.

00:19:38.000 In other words, he's hitting numbers that he actually would need to hit in order to retain the presidency.

00:19:42.000 This is because the more people see of the Democrats, the more it's a referendum on their radicalism.

00:19:47.000 Having Joe Biden out there proclaiming to the sky that he is going to release hundreds of thousands of prisoners onto America's streets.

00:19:54.000 Honestly, if Trump doesn't run on that, I don't know what he's doing.

00:19:56.000 And I have a feeling that Trump is certainly going to run on the Democrats being extraordinarily weak on crime.

00:20:02.000 Everything from their willingness to dump hundreds of thousands of prisoners into the American population, to decriminalizing illegal immigration, which is something they continue to push to do.

00:20:13.000 There's something else that's been happening, I'm going to talk about in just a minute, and that is this push from the social left to get corporations to do their bidding as well.

00:20:24.000 What we are experiencing right now is not merely a political polarization, it is a cultural polarization that is leading to a breakup in the country.

00:20:33.000 And I'm not talking about like full-scale secession, but I'm talking about an increasing feeling that we ought not live in the same country, That is burgeoning on the left and then in response on the right.

00:20:43.000 It's really bad.

00:20:44.000 I'm gonna explain in just one second.

00:20:45.000 First, we live in a world where we have access to data that gives us more personal insights into who we are.

00:20:50.000 What's more personalized than your DNA?

00:20:52.000 Now we can turn to our genetics for personalized health traits and more.

00:20:56.000 23andMe, that's the name of this service.

00:20:57.000 It allows you to go beyond ancestry to access more personalized insights about you based on your DNA.

00:21:02.000 I've taken the 23andMe test.

00:21:04.000 Turns out I'm 100% Ashkenaz Jew.

00:21:07.000 100% pure Ashkenaz Jew. 0.97

00:21:09.000 I mean, that's... I don't even know how to describe that except to say that Ashkenaz Jews are famous for a couple of things.

00:21:16.000 Not great food, and genetically Tay-Sachs. 1.00

00:21:18.000 So be that what it may, that is what I found out from 23andMe.

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00:22:03.000 Alrighty, so as I say, the culture seems to be coming apart.

00:22:06.000 So it is not merely that politicians are polarizing because it's primary season.

00:22:10.000 And now they have to appeal to the most radical among us.

00:22:13.000 Now there's pressure that is being put on private industries to do the same.

00:22:16.000 You've seen this with Nike going woke in order not to go broke.

00:22:20.000 This is Nike's new strategy is that they are going to be as woke as humanly possible.

00:22:24.000 They're going to embrace Colin Kaepernick.

00:22:26.000 They're going to suggest that women are somehow put down in American society.

00:22:29.000 Well now SunTrust A bank has decided that they are not going to be involved in the private prison industry.

00:22:36.000 According to Forbes.com, SunTrust Bank announced this morning they are ready to join other major banks in moving away from the private prison industry in the wake of deep public sentiment against their role in mass incarceration and family detention.

00:22:47.000 Sue Malino, chief communications officer of SunTrust Bank said, quote, following an ongoing and deliberate process, SunTrust has decided not to provide future financing to companies that manage private prisons and immigration holding facilities.

00:22:58.000 This decision was made after extensive consideration of the views of our stakeholders on this deeply complex issue.

00:23:04.000 In other words, a bunch of people whined and suggested it was very bad to fund private prison complexes that are necessary for keeping prisoners there.

00:23:13.000 That it would be very bad to have private detention facilities that allow for, you know, more humane detention of illegal immigrants in the United States.

00:23:22.000 And so SunTrust is pulling out.

00:23:23.000 And we're seeing this from other banks as well.

00:23:24.000 We've seen Bank of America direct action against particular groups that it does not like.

00:23:30.000 And while you or I may agree on the groups that they don't like, it is very bad policy to have banks rejecting groups not based on illegal activity of the groups, but based on viewpoint discrimination.

00:23:41.000 It's very bad for the country.

00:23:42.000 They're a private industry.

00:23:42.000 Now, they can do what they want.

00:23:44.000 But the predictable result will be that there will be alternative banks that spring up to lend to a lot of these sorts of industries.

00:23:50.000 And so what you'll end up with is banks that do not politically discriminate and banks that do politically discriminate.

00:23:56.000 And this is happening in virtually every area of corporate America.

00:23:59.000 What the left has realized for a while is that if they pressure corporations to do something, corporations will likely do it.

00:24:05.000 That the squeakiest wheel tends to get the grease.

00:24:08.000 Most of us don't really think about the corporate messaging of the products that we buy.

00:24:12.000 We just go and look for the best products.

00:24:13.000 It's particularly true for conservatives.

00:24:15.000 We basically go and we look for the best products and we buy them.

00:24:17.000 Like, I didn't care about Nike's politics until the last five minutes because why would I care about that?

00:24:23.000 I need a shoe.

00:24:24.000 But there are a lot of people On the left, you do not feel the same way.

00:24:28.000 And they actually look to corporations to mirror their social justice preferences.

00:24:32.000 So if you are a corporation and you feel no blowback from the right when you go woke, but you feel lots of blowback from the left when you do not go woke, you are likely to cater to the left.

00:24:40.000 Well, eventually the right is going to get wise to this and they're going to stop buying Nike shoes.

00:24:45.000 They're going to stop banking with institutions that they don't like.

00:24:48.000 Or, alternatively, they will be expelled from those institutions because the only thing a lot of the left wants is to ban all of this stuff from entering the public square at all.

00:24:57.000 They want to use the corporations as their tools.

00:25:00.000 They want the corporations to do their dirty work for them.

00:25:03.000 That will lead to an alternative market, a resegregation of the political market.

00:25:07.000 It's sort of like how this happened in news, right?

00:25:09.000 You've seen the Daily Wire spring up on the right and then you've got Huffington Post on the left.

00:25:12.000 You're gonna see this happen with non-informational driven exchanges.

00:25:17.000 You're gonna see this happen with bigger corporations.

00:25:18.000 That's actually very bad for the country.

00:25:21.000 You're seeing this happen right now with regard to Home Depot.

00:25:24.000 Home Depot is being boycotted.

00:25:27.000 And a lot of this is just based on bad information.

00:25:30.000 It's based on bad policy.

00:25:32.000 It's based on media coverage that is not true.

00:25:34.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:26:40.000 So as I say, the pressure on these banks to divest from the prison, the so-called prison industrial complex, is coming from the left.

00:26:49.000 Ash Scowl, writing for Daily Wire yesterday, points out that during the first round of Democratic presidential debates, Senator Elizabeth Warren slammed private prisons and called for their elimination.

00:26:58.000 She said, our criminal and immigration systems are tearing apart communities of color and devastating the poor, including children.

00:27:03.000 Okay, first of all, Arresting criminals and taking them out of communities is one of the things that makes it easier to live in a community.

00:27:10.000 And if you don't... This weird idea that all these guys who are going to prison for crimes are actually responsible fathers and wonderful family figures, and then they just sort of get randomly plucked up and put in prison.

00:27:22.000 I'm not seeing a lot of evidence of this.

00:27:24.000 In any case, she claimed that the economy is benefiting a thinner and thinner slice at the top, and she noted people who want to invest in private prisons, but This is not true.

00:27:35.000 Private prisons under President Trump have not actually been doing very well.

00:27:38.000 CoreCivic, which was formerly Corrections Corporation of America, is down about 25% since Trump's inauguration.

00:27:43.000 GEO Group is down about 20%.

00:27:47.000 Bank of America and SunTrust have also announced they would stop financing for-profit prisons.

00:27:52.000 There is basically no evidence to suggest that the private prison complex is doing great under President Trump and is benefiting from all of these crime policies or any of that.

00:28:01.000 But again, bad information is more important than true information, so long as the bad information gets broader play.

00:28:07.000 You're seeing the same thing today with regard to a boycott, a so-called boycott of Home Depot.

00:28:11.000 Now, it is important to note, the vast majority of people who say they're going to boycott these companies on the left never do any of this stuff.

00:28:17.000 How many of the people who say they're going to boycott Home Depot actually shop at Home Depot?

00:28:21.000 The answer?

00:28:22.000 Probably none.

00:28:23.000 How many of the people who say they're going to blow back on SunTrust actually bank at SunTrust?

00:28:27.000 I would bet very, very, very few.

00:28:29.000 The truth is that boycotts have a long failed history in the United States.

00:28:33.000 It is very rare to see a successful boycott.

00:28:35.000 The Montgomery bus boycott is one good example of a successful boycott. 1.00

00:28:39.000 But it is exorbitantly rare today, particularly, for a boycott to actually hurt a company.

00:28:45.000 All you have to do is look at Nike.

00:28:45.000 A lot of conservatives fulminating over Nike and Colin Kaepernick.

00:28:48.000 Their stock has been up since the beginning of the year dramatically.

00:28:51.000 Nike knows that.

00:28:52.000 That's why they're smart enough to ignore the detractors and just do what they want to do and pander to the people they want to pander to on the left.

00:28:59.000 Well, apparently most corporations are not that smart.

00:29:03.000 Nonetheless, people are targeting Home Depot.

00:29:05.000 Why?

00:29:06.000 Well, because one of its founders, Bernie Marcus, has said that he intends to support President Trump's re-election campaign.

00:29:11.000 And this means that a bunch of people say that they are not going to actually shop at Home Depot anymore. 0.75

00:29:17.000 Well, this is really stupid because Bernie Marcus retired from Home Depot 15 years ago and doesn't speak on behalf of the company. 0.94

00:29:23.000 The company doesn't endorse presidential candidates. 0.98

00:29:26.000 So, he still continues to own shares in the business?

00:29:29.000 But he is not speaking on behalf of Home Depot. 0.99

00:29:31.000 This is just as dumb as the boycott of Chick-fil-A based on the political preferences of the owners of Chick-fil-A. 0.97

00:29:38.000 Now, Chick-fil-A caters to customers of every name, every kind, every sexual orientation. 0.99

00:29:44.000 Apparently, none of that matters.

00:29:45.000 All this is doing is polarizing our culture.

00:29:47.000 And when we continue in just a second... 0.68

00:29:50.000 I'm going to show you how even the most anodyne, silly topics like women's soccer have become incredibly polarized and polarized by, frankly, celebrity figures who don't know what the hell they're talking about.

00:29:59.000 Megan Rapinoe would be today's key example of a celebrity figure who does not know what the hell she is talking about, contradicts herself all over the place, and is feeded by the media for her trouble because she obviously checks some intersectional boxes. 1.00

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00:33:07.000 So talking about cultural polarization, it's funny.

00:33:09.000 The moments that are supposed to be unifying for the country are no longer unifying for the country.

00:33:13.000 So the Women's World Cup team wins the World Cup.

00:33:16.000 And as I said, I don't care about this other than I like America.

00:33:19.000 I'll root for America whether we are winning in curling or whether we are winning in badminton or women's soccer.

00:33:25.000 I really don't care.

00:33:25.000 I have no particular love for soccer generally.

00:33:28.000 I certainly have no particular love for women's soccer.

00:33:31.000 Mainly because I care about skill level and women's soccer is just not at the same skill level as men's soccer.

00:33:36.000 I mean, really not even as teenage boys soccer in many cases.

00:33:39.000 In any case, this has become a big deal.

00:33:41.000 That's fine.

00:33:42.000 But what made it political is that many on the U.S.

00:33:44.000 women's national team decided that they were now going to be social justice heroes.

00:33:48.000 And this meant that they were going to stump for so-called equal pay. 0.99

00:33:50.000 Now, as we've talked about on the program, this is a bunch of crap. 0.99

00:33:53.000 Women do not deserve equal pay in the World Cup with the men. 1.00

00:33:56.000 They do not earn as much money.

00:33:57.000 They do not sell as many tickets.

00:33:58.000 That is simply a fact.

00:33:59.000 When it comes to the U.S.

00:34:01.000 soccer, U.S.

00:34:02.000 national soccer, you know, like in non-World Cup years, then there's maybe a case that women should be paid more. 1.00

00:34:07.000 But guess what?

00:34:07.000 They have collective bargaining rights, and they collectively bargained for a contract two years ago.

00:34:11.000 So if they did a bad job negotiating, that would be on them.

00:34:13.000 Also, it is true they don't sell as many tickets overall as the men, particularly when you include World Cup years.

00:34:19.000 When you include World Cup years, men dramatically outsell the women, like by $10 million.

00:34:23.000 So, all of this has been a bunch of nonsense.

00:34:27.000 Even the sort of more left-wing publications, the Washington Post, the New York Times, that have been calling for quote-unquote equal pay recognize that women have not actually earned equal pay on the World Cup stage, but they just won it anyway. 0.96

00:34:39.000 So, This has been their thing.

00:34:41.000 The lead voice in this has been Megan Rapinoe.

00:34:43.000 Now, Megan Rapinoe has basically been, since 2016, doing the Colin Kaepernick routine.

00:34:48.000 Getting famous off the radical left social justice stuff that she has been pushing.

00:34:54.000 And that's the reason why she's really being celebrated today.

00:34:56.000 Not because she's a terrific soccer player, which she apparently is.

00:35:00.000 But because she is an outspoken lesbian, because she is a very outspoken SJW on so-called equal pay issues, even though, again, she's not really stumping for equal pay, she's stumping for disproportionate pay for women on the basis of media coverage, effectively.

00:35:17.000 And she has become this sort of obnoxious advocate for her position. 1.00

00:35:20.000 The reason I call it obnoxious is because, I'm sorry, but if you go to University of Portland on scholarship for women's soccer and then you're whining about this country, shut up.

00:35:28.000 Really, this is a pretty great country when you get to go to college for free because not only do you kick a ball, you kick a ball in a sport people pretend to care about once every four years.

00:35:39.000 When I say shut up, by the way, I don't mean that she should be made to be quiet.

00:35:42.000 She can talk as much as she wants. 0.97

00:35:43.000 I'm just saying it's obnoxious.

00:35:45.000 Because guess what?

00:35:45.000 It is obnoxious.

00:35:46.000 When she's kneeling for the national anthem in a country that is celebrating her as a heroine, she's getting paid millions of dollars to make ads for Nike about how she is a lesbian and outspoken and a soccer player.

00:35:58.000 It seems to me you should be sort of grateful for the country that makes all that possible.

00:36:01.000 It seems to me you should be pretty happy about the country, not sitting back and talking about how terrible the country is all the time.

00:36:07.000 More than that, Rapinoe demonstrates an obvious unwillingness to even talk with anybody on the other side of the aisle.

00:36:13.000 Now, before people say, why would she talk with you? 0.73

00:36:14.000 You're criticizing her.

00:36:15.000 Right.

00:36:15.000 I'm criticizing her specifically because she has evidenced no desire to have a conversation of any merit or substance on these issues.

00:36:22.000 Instead, she appears on media outlets that drool over her and ask her silly, stupid questions and allow her to get away with silly, stupid answers. 1.00

00:36:31.000 So I want to give you a couple of examples of how Megan Rapinoe is being treated and how she says dumb things on a regular basis. 1.00

00:36:36.000 And nobody calls her out on it because, again, her intersectional credentials are in order.

00:36:40.000 Because even though she grew up, from what I understand, middle to upper class, right?

00:36:45.000 I mean, she's playing soccer from the time she was five years old.

00:36:48.000 She went to, I believe, a private high school.

00:36:51.000 I'm not sure she wants to eat.

00:36:52.000 I know that she was playing on the on the junior soccer circuit and all of this.

00:36:56.000 She's lived a pretty good life in the United States.

00:36:58.000 I think it's fair to say.

00:36:59.000 Megan Rapinoe has lived a pretty good life in the United States.

00:37:02.000 Still, she talks about how America is really, really a bad place.

00:37:07.000 And then she also suggested that she didn't want to meet with people.

00:37:11.000 I mean, it was really amazing.

00:37:13.000 She said she did not want to meet with people who disagree with her.

00:37:16.000 So here she is giving a shout out to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, because this is what we're talking about here. 0.70

00:37:23.000 I know you've been invited by, I think, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, I think Nancy Pelosi.

00:37:29.000 Shout out AOC.

00:37:32.000 So does that mean, is that an invitation you're taking up?

00:37:34.000 I think everyone is interested in going to Washington.

00:37:36.000 I think we've always been interested in going to Washington.

00:37:39.000 This is such a special moment for us and to be able to, you know, sort of leverage this movement and talk about the things that we want to talk about and to celebrate like this with the leaders of our country is an incredible moment.

00:37:54.000 Okay, and then she continued by suggesting that she didn't want to meet with the Trump administration. 0.83

00:37:59.000 So instead of everybody celebrating together, or maybe her making her point to, you know, people who disagree, maybe she could make an affirmative case.

00:38:05.000 Instead, she says she's not going to meet with the administration because she doesn't want to be co-opted or used by the administration.

00:38:10.000 Yes, I am sure that that would have been the media coverage.

00:38:12.000 Is Megan Rapinoe co-opted by President Trump?

00:38:14.000 It wouldn't have been her going to the White House and then mouthing off to Trump about equal pay. 0.71

00:38:17.000 That would be the smartest thing for her to do.

00:38:19.000 what would have happened, right?

00:38:20.000 That would have been, honestly, if I were her media advisor, that's what I would tell her to do.

00:38:24.000 Accept the invitation from the Trump White House, go there and then make a comment directly to Trump's face about equal pay, right?

00:38:29.000 That would be the smartest thing for her to do.

00:38:31.000 She's not gonna do that. 0.99

00:38:32.000 Yeah, I don't think anyone on the team has any interest in lending the platform that we've worked so hard to build and the things that we fight for and the way that we live our life.

00:38:44.000 I don't think that we want that to be co-opted or corrupted by this administration.

00:38:48.000 And going to the White House would be, in your opinion, Risk co-opting or corrupting your message?

00:38:55.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:38:56.000 I think it's an opportunity for this administration to sort of put us on display as their, you know, sort of guest for the day.

00:39:04.000 And I don't think that that makes sense for us at all.

00:39:07.000 Okay, so quick correction.

00:39:08.000 She went to a public high school, not a private high school.

00:39:10.000 Doesn't change the general point.

00:39:11.000 She's lived a pretty good life.

00:39:12.000 She also said in this interview that she had an immense sense of pride and responsibility by kneeling during the National Anthem.

00:39:18.000 Nothing says pride and responsibility quite like kneeling during the National Anthem of a country that has fought for your rights to be an incredibly famous person based on kicking a ball and having the proper leftist messaging.

00:39:30.000 Also, Megan Rapinoe suggested that she would only meet with people who agree with her.

00:39:36.000 So, she said she would go to D.C.

00:39:37.000 and have a substantive conversation with, quote, anyone who believes the same things we believe in.

00:39:43.000 Yes.

00:39:44.000 Doing amazing work on behalf of her perspective by meeting with people who already agree with her.

00:39:44.000 Wow.

00:39:48.000 Really tremendous stuff.

00:39:50.000 The best part of this Megan Rapinoe interview is that she was asked how fans can support the fight for equal pay.

00:39:56.000 Her answer is just incredible.

00:39:59.000 In the moments immediately following the final whistle, you get that USA, USA chant, but equal pay, equal pay along that same cadence.

00:40:06.000 I think fans want to know what they can do to support that fight.

00:40:10.000 Fans can come to games.

00:40:11.000 Obviously the national team games will be a hot ticket.

00:40:14.000 But we have nine teams in the NWSL.

00:40:16.000 You can go to your league games.

00:40:19.000 You can support that way.

00:40:20.000 You can buy players' jerseys.

00:40:23.000 You can lend your support in that way.

00:40:25.000 You can tell your friends about it.

00:40:26.000 You can become season ticket holders.

00:40:29.000 I think in terms of that, that's the easiest way for fans to get involved.

00:40:33.000 Oh, you mean that fans can actually create the economic incentives for you to get paid more?

00:40:38.000 You mean that capitalism can actually raise your pay?

00:40:42.000 So what you're saying is that the reason you're not getting equal pay right now is because you're not making equal money for your league, and the best way for you to raise your pay would be for people to come and purchase tickets and memorabilia from your team, which suggests that this isn't about sexism at all.

00:40:58.000 This is about you just complaining about sexism for publicity.

00:41:02.000 It's just this sort of stuff, and there's no follow-up there at all, of course.

00:41:05.000 And Rachel Maddow is never going to do the follow-up. 0.99

00:41:07.000 That's who's interviewing her there.

00:41:09.000 Rachel Maddow is never going to say to Megan Rapinoe, so you're saying capitalism can actually increase your pay? 0.84

00:41:14.000 That's never going to be a thing that anyone on the left asks.

00:41:17.000 Instead, we all have to pretend that this is all normal, and that it's not divisive at all, and that truly she's a hero to everyone.

00:41:25.000 Absolute, absolute.

00:41:27.000 Silliness. 0.97

00:41:28.000 Absolute silliness. 0.96

00:41:28.000 And bad for the country, by the way. 0.96

00:41:30.000 When even the stuff that we take a break with, you know, sporting, is turned into this, it's pretty obnoxious.

00:41:36.000 And we're not talking about 1968 in the middle of the civil rights movement with U.S.

00:41:41.000 sprinters on the U.S.

00:41:42.000 national team at the Olympics raising the black power fist because American politics are polarized around race in 68.

00:41:48.000 We're not talking about that.

00:41:49.000 We're talking about gay marriage is legal across the United States by Supreme Court diktat.

00:41:54.000 We are talking about Megan Rapinoe is getting million-dollar contracts specifically because of her sexuality.

00:41:59.000 And because she is a very, very good soccer player.

00:42:01.000 But let's not make any mistake, if she were a very good soccer player, and she were not a very outspoken lesbian, she would be getting fewer contracts. 1.00

00:42:08.000 Because she is seen as a political figure.

00:42:12.000 She's sort of Colin Kaepernick, but with actual talents at her sport.

00:42:16.000 So, it's... all of this is obnoxious, but we're supposed to pretend that actually she's quite charming and wonderful.

00:42:22.000 That it is not obnoxious to live in the most... to live in the best time for women, in the best time for lesbians, in the best time for women's soccer, in the history of the world, and in the best country in the history of the world for any of those things.

00:42:34.000 We're supposed to pretend that actually she's a victim and America's a terrible place so that she can make more money, presumably. 1.00

00:42:39.000 Pretty gross.

00:42:39.000 Okay, meanwhile, quick update on the Jeffrey Epstein story.

00:42:44.000 So the Jeffrey Epstein story, there's no real news that is coming out about it.

00:42:47.000 People are mostly just fulminating over what's going to happen next.

00:42:50.000 So, is Bill Clinton the next shoe to drop?

00:42:53.000 Or is Alex Acosta, the Secretary of Labor, the person who is going to feel the brunt?

00:42:59.000 A couple of details about the Alexander Acosta connection that are worthy of note here.

00:43:02.000 Some information that people haven't really been given or people haven't talked about, and that is what exactly did the Labor Secretary do when he was the federal prosecutor down in Miami, when he was a U.S.

00:43:15.000 attorney down in Miami with Jeffrey Epstein?

00:43:17.000 So right now people are calling for Acosta to resign.

00:43:20.000 Because there seemed to be a sweetheart deal in 2007 between Jeffrey Epstein and Alex Acosta's office of the U.S.

00:43:27.000 Attorney in Miami.

00:43:29.000 And in that plea deal, or in the deal, Epstein struck a bargain that included Epstein pleading guilty to two felony solicitation charges, agreeing to 18 months in prison, eventually served 13, and registering as a sex offender.

00:43:42.000 The deal also closed an ongoing FBI investigation and kept the case under seal, including by not notifying Epstein's accusers.

00:43:48.000 So it's a really, really good deal for Jeffrey Epstein.

00:43:51.000 And the person who was working at that office at the time was Alex Acosta, who is now the Secretary of Labor.

00:43:56.000 Aaron Blake actually has a really good piece over at the Washington Post talking about what Acosta has said in response to all of this.

00:44:04.000 So, Acosta's handling of the case, according to Blake, has been called into question before, but in December, the Miami Herald published a blockbuster story revealing potential deferential treatment that Acosta and other prosecutors gave Epstein's lawyers, especially when it came to keeping the matter private.

00:44:18.000 Akasa has readily commented on the matter.

00:44:20.000 When he has, he has declined to do so in detail, sometimes citing ongoing litigation and a fading memory.

00:44:25.000 He did write a lengthy letter in 2011 and was asked about it in 2017.

00:44:28.000 It came up in 2018 at a hearing of the House Appropriations Subcommittee.

00:44:32.000 Akasa sent his 2011 letter to the Daily Beast.

00:44:35.000 In that letter, he suggested that evidence that came out after the plea deal has led to some revisionist history.

00:44:39.000 He said, some may feel the prosecution should have been tougher.

00:44:42.000 Evidence has come to light since 2007 that may encourage that view.

00:44:46.000 But he said it was the right decision at the time.

00:44:47.000 He said, I supported that judgment then. 0.61

00:44:49.000 Based on the state of the law as it then stood and evidence known at the time, I would support the judgment again.

00:44:54.000 In the 2011 letter, Acosta, there's a detail that matters.

00:44:58.000 He came out strongly against another controversial aspect of Epstein's treatment.

00:45:01.000 Part of the deal was that Epstein would be able to leave jail during the day and then return at night.

00:45:08.000 Acosta noted that state authorities were in charge of that, not federal authorities.

00:45:12.000 He added that, quote, without doubt, the treatment he received while in state custody undermined the purpose of the jail sentence.

00:45:17.000 In 2017, in testimony, he called that arrangement awful.

00:45:21.000 Acosta also said that Epstein's lawyers, which included Alan Dershowitz and Ken Starr, were ruthless and willing to dig into the personal lives of prosecutors.

00:45:28.000 He said it was a yearlong assault.

00:45:30.000 He said, I confess, it's been difficult for him to be cordial with his opponents after this case.

00:45:35.000 He said the aggressive tactics didn't influence his decisions one way or another.

00:45:41.000 So that has been it.

00:45:42.000 Acosta has also said that there was a consensus or broadly held feeling within the prosecutor's office that the deal was about as good as they were going to get.

00:45:52.000 There was at least one agent who told the Miami Herald that people were very disappointed with that particular deal.

00:45:58.000 So I'm sure there will be more information to come out, but it is worthy of note that Acosta, for example, opposed what is obviously the most lenient part of the sentence, which is Epstein being able to leave jail during the day and come back at night.

00:46:10.000 Meanwhile, how deeply is Bill Clinton tied in?

00:46:12.000 Well, there's a woman who is an expert on underage sex trafficking.

00:46:16.000 Her name is Conchita Sarnoff.

00:46:18.000 She runs a foundation based on it.

00:46:19.000 She was asked on Fox News about Bill Clinton.

00:46:21.000 She says, there's another shoe to drop here.

00:46:23.000 I know from the pilot logs, and these are pilot logs that, you know, were written by different pilots and at different times, that Clinton went.

00:46:32.000 He was a guest of Epstein's 27 times.

00:46:38.000 Almost every time that Clinton's name is on the pilot logs, there are underage girls. 1.00

00:46:44.000 There are initials and there are names of many, many girls on that Private plane.

00:46:50.000 So you have to ask yourself, why would anyone, not only a former president, fly on a plane 27 times?

00:47:02.000 Okay, so there's still some other... I'm sure there'll be more news to drop here, so we'll keep an eye on all of that.

00:47:06.000 Okay, time for some things I like, and then some things that I hate.

00:47:09.000 So, things that I like today.

00:47:11.000 So, as you know, I'm a devotee of baseball.

00:47:13.000 I love baseball.

00:47:14.000 This is one of the best baseball books I have ever read.

00:47:16.000 It is an older book.

00:47:17.000 It is from Daniel Okrent, who used to be one of the editors over at the New York Times.

00:47:22.000 He's written a couple of really good baseball books.

00:47:24.000 The book is called Nine Innings, The Anatomy of a Baseball Game, and O'Krent takes a 1981 baseball game between the St.

00:47:31.000 Louis Cardinals and the Milwaukee Brewers, and he breaks it down out by out and pitch by pitch.

00:47:35.000 It's really good.

00:47:36.000 If you're a baseball fan, this stuff is just nirvana.

00:47:38.000 It's a terrific, terrific book.

00:47:40.000 I can't believe I hadn't heard of it before.

00:47:42.000 But it is certainly worth the read.

00:47:44.000 So if you're a baseball fan or a sports fan generally, this is about as good as it gets for baseball books.

00:47:48.000 Daniel Okren's nine innings.

00:47:50.000 Go check it out right now.

00:47:51.000 Other things that I like.

00:47:52.000 So, as I mentioned yesterday, Mitch McConnell had been hit with an NBC News report that his great-great-grandfathers, two of them, We're slave owners.

00:48:02.000 Wow, going back 150 years and finding something in the family tree that you don't like.

00:48:06.000 Amazing, amazing.

00:48:07.000 Well, Mitch McConnell was asked about this yesterday, and this is about as good as it gets for cocaine Mitch.

00:48:13.000 So cocaine Mitch really just snorting a line and then going full Scarface on the reporter in this particular exchange.

00:48:21.000 Solid stuff from Mitch McConnell.

00:48:23.000 You know, I find myself once again in the same position as President Obama.

00:48:29.000 war and has that revelation caused you to change your position on reparations you know i find myself once again in the same position as president obama we both oppose reparations and we both are the descendants of slaveholders 100 true mentioned it yesterday on the show barack obama is descended on his mother's side from slave owners.

00:48:56.000 By the way, so is Kamala Harris, apparently.

00:48:57.000 Her dad has written about the fact that...

00:49:00.000 He is descended from slave owners as well.

00:49:02.000 So if this is the way this is going to work, that if somebody in your family treated something wrong, then we are going to hold you to account.

00:49:08.000 Good for Mitch McConnell for doing this.

00:49:09.000 That is solid stuff.

00:49:11.000 You can always tell Mitch McConnell knows he's getting off a good line when that slight smile creases the turtle face and suddenly he is dropping, dropping hot fire on people.

00:49:19.000 Pretty good stuff.

00:49:20.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.

00:49:25.000 So there are a bunch of candidates who are just hanging around in this Democratic race who should not be hanging around in this Democratic race.

00:49:31.000 One of those candidates is Beto O'Rourke.

00:49:33.000 Now remember that time when Beto was a serious candidate?

00:49:35.000 Wasn't that funny?

00:49:36.000 Beto O'Rourke?

00:49:37.000 I remember.

00:49:38.000 It was really, really hilarious.

00:49:39.000 Well, now Beto O'Rourke is polling.

00:49:41.000 It's sad news for Beto, man.

00:49:43.000 He is down all the way to 2.6% in the RealClearPolitics poll average, just beating out Cory Booker and Tulsi Gabbard.

00:49:51.000 Ouch.

00:49:52.000 This is a guy who had raised an enormous amount of money.

00:49:54.000 When he jumped into the race, he was polling at nearly 10%.

00:49:59.000 Back in January, when he actually jumped in, he was all the way up in some of the polls to 9, 9.5%.

00:50:04.000 He was running basically third in the polls.

00:50:08.000 He'd gotten up to third in the polls by mid-April.

00:50:12.000 It was going Biden, Sanders, and then O'Rourke, and he has just fallen off a cliff all the way down to 2%, and now he is relegated to doing his worst Noam Chomsky impersonation. 0.96

00:50:24.000 Taking a drag, brah, riding a skateboard, and then talking about how America's the worst, America's terrible and racist, even though you can be a totally unsuccessful congressperson who runs for Senate, marry into wealth, have an incredibly privileged life, go to Columbia University, spend like a decade bro-ing out with your bro-friends, and playing crap gigs around the country while dressed as a sheep. 0.66

00:50:47.000 Then you can run for city council, congress, senate, lose, and then run for president. 1.00

00:50:52.000 This country sucks, man. 0.99

00:50:53.000 And if you're Beto, you know it sucks because you're talking to people who are minorities and you assume they also think it sucks. 1.00

00:51:00.000 This country was founded on white supremacy. 0.98

00:51:02.000 And every single institution and structure that we have in our country still reflects the legacy of slavery and segregation and Jim Crow and suppression, even in our democracy.

00:51:15.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

00:51:16.000 So it was founded on white supremacy.

00:51:17.000 This is a claim that you keep hearing from the left.

00:51:19.000 And I've said before, I think this is a key divide in the American mind right now, that there are a lot of people, mostly on the right, but not entirely, who say that America was founded on good, true, eternal principles.

00:51:29.000 We haven't always lived up to those principles.

00:51:31.000 But the story of America is about us establishing grand and great principles in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States, and then working to broaden out those principles to apply to the people to whom they always should have been applied to.

00:51:43.000 But thanks to cultural standards of the time, they were not fully applied.

00:51:48.000 In the line of thinking of this, by the way, is Frederick Douglass, whose speech was quoted out of context by Colin Kaepernick, who knows as much about history as I do about blitz packages.

00:51:59.000 And Colin Kaepernick tweeted and quoted Frederick Douglass way out of context.

00:52:05.000 Frederick Douglass has a very famous speech when he talked about what the 4th of July meant to the black person in America.

00:52:11.000 And he talked about how it didn't apply to the black person in America, but that's because the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were liberty documents that had not been properly read and had not been extended out as they should have been.

00:52:20.000 That is, in that line of thinking are an enormous number of civil rights leaders.

00:52:24.000 I would say that Martin Luther King was in this line.

00:52:26.000 There's a reason why Martin Luther King correctly would use American principles as the greatest defense to his position, and that was effective.

00:52:33.000 That was effective.

00:52:34.000 That's one line of thinking.

00:52:36.000 Then there's another line of thinking, and that's the thinking that basically all the grand and glorious principles of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States, all the talk about natural rights and natural law, all of those things, it was merely a guise, a guise for power politics.

00:52:50.000 In this line of thinking, there are two particular strains of relevance.

00:52:54.000 One is the economic strain.

00:52:55.000 So there's a group of people led in the early 20th century by a sociologist and historian named Charles Beard that suggested basically that the founders were a bunch of rich white dudes and they were trying to enshrine their rich whiteness by creating these highfalutin ideals and then using the highfalutin ideals in order to Push their actual agenda, which was to enshrine their own wealth.

00:53:15.000 There's the Charles Beard economic analysis of American history.

00:53:18.000 It is not true.

00:53:19.000 It is bad history.

00:53:20.000 But nonetheless, it has become very popular to cite from people ranging from Woodrow Wilson in the early 20th century to Bernie Sanders in the now.

00:53:28.000 And then there's the racial aspect, which says America was founded in white supremacy, that when Thomas Jefferson wrote, all men are created equal, he didn't mean black people, which is actually not really true.

00:53:39.000 Thomas Jefferson did mean black people, he just didn't want to apply it to black people.

00:53:44.000 It's why Thomas Jefferson is a really troubling character in American history, and really symbolizes a lot of the conflicts of American history.

00:53:51.000 Jefferson knew what he was writing, and then he proceeded to ignore what he was writing.

00:53:55.000 He proceeded to live with the cognitive dissonance.

00:53:57.000 Early on in Jefferson's career he was pretty anti-slavery, and then as he became accustomed to having his own slaves, being a slave holder, You know, by most evidence, siring children by Sally Hemings and all of this.

00:54:08.000 As he did that, he accustomed himself to living with the cognitive dissonance of participating in an act of evil that he knew was actually deeply wrong.

00:54:16.000 But, to suggest that the Founders universally were pro-slavery is untrue.

00:54:20.000 To suggest the Founders universally didn't think of black people as people is simply untrue.

00:54:25.000 You can read Founders including John Adams talking about all of this.

00:54:30.000 Nonetheless, nonetheless, there's this claim made that basically what really undergirds the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence is white supremacy, not that whiteness and white solidarity and degrading of other races was common to an enormous number of people at the time, including in Europe, where slavery was still legal at the time of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States.

00:54:51.000 Not only that, but that that was actually at the root of all of this, that the real root rationale for the founding of the country was the preservation of white supremacy.

00:55:00.000 Now, the difference is that we all live in sort of the cultural swamp of our times, right?

00:55:04.000 A hundred years from now, people will look back on us and look at us as primitives, because that's how everybody has done things for all of human history.

00:55:10.000 I think the area in which they're most likely to do that is with regard to the eating of animals.

00:55:15.000 I think that over time, and I love eating meat, but I will admit that I think in a hundred years, people are going to look back when we have created better meat substitutes, when we've created the ability to grow protein, animal protein, without actually killing animals.

00:55:29.000 They'll look back in a hundred years and go, how could people slaughter animals like that?

00:55:32.000 Right?

00:55:32.000 In a hundred years, people will look back at us.

00:55:33.000 They'll certainly do this about abortion. 1.00

00:55:35.000 Within 30 years, people are going to look back at us and say, wait, you people were arguing that you should be able to kill a baby up until the point of birth?

00:55:40.000 That's what you people were doing?

00:55:42.000 I mean, those of us who are doing that now.

00:55:45.000 But the question is whether that defines the society or whether that is just an aspect of the culture that is taken for granted as sort of the background noise of the culture.

00:55:54.000 And does that provide the root of the society, or is that just part of the background noise?

00:55:57.000 So, it is true that racism was part of the background noise of society in 1775.

00:56:02.000 That was certainly a huge part of society, undeniably.

00:56:07.000 Was that what differentiated America from other places?

00:56:09.000 No.

00:56:09.000 What differentiated America from other places is the acknowledgement of those high ideals.

00:56:13.000 When Beto O'Rourke says America was founded in white supremacy, what he means is that white supremacy lay at the root Right?

00:56:19.000 It was the actual driving force behind the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States and the creation of the country.

00:56:26.000 That's a lie.

00:56:26.000 It's not true.

00:56:28.000 And recognizing the shadings of history, recognizing the truth of cultural mores being different in 1770 than they are in 2019, there is nothing more historically ignorant or frankly arrogant than suggesting that you are a better person than Thomas Jefferson was when you live in a completely different society than Thomas Jefferson did.

00:56:46.000 I don't know what you would have done in 1776.

00:56:48.000 You don't know what you would have done in 1776.

00:56:50.000 You certainly wouldn't have the same values that you do now because you weren't brought up in the same values that you've been brought up with. 0.98

00:56:56.000 So this sort of You're pandering, ridiculous. 0.95

00:57:00.000 America is a deeply evil place because in the past people did bad things. 1.00

00:57:04.000 In a hundred years, people are going to look back and think that you were pretty garbage, too. 1.00

00:57:04.000 Guess what? 1.00

00:57:08.000 That's the way this all works.

00:57:09.000 This is not unique to Beto O'Rourke, of course.

00:57:14.000 The radicalism of the Democratic Party is continuing and ugly.

00:57:18.000 Elizabeth Warren, of course, has gained a lot more support than Beto O'Rourke, mainly propped up by media attention.

00:57:22.000 So the media have now given Elizabeth Warren the sort of attention that they used to give to Beto.

00:57:26.000 They used to suggest that Beto was the golden, fair-haired child.

00:57:30.000 Now it's Elizabeth Warren who is the golden, fair-haired grandmother.

00:57:34.000 And she apparently has all the ideas and all the solutions. 0.93

00:57:37.000 She is deeply radical on a variety of issues, not least including the Middle East.

00:57:41.000 She has one advisor named Max Berger, who is supremely radical on this issue.

00:57:46.000 He has sympathized in the past with terrorists, with Palestinian terrorists in the Gaza Strip.

00:57:51.000 He has maligned the Israeli government, is committing pogroms. 0.85

00:57:53.000 He's really, really bad.

00:57:55.000 And he's her top foreign policy advisor.

00:57:57.000 Elizabeth Warren was asked yesterday at some event about whether she would commit to ending Israel's so-called occupation.

00:58:03.000 Now, for those who don't know about the quote-unquote occupation, basically, Israel, in 1967, was attacked by a variety of Arab nations, Jordan, Egypt, Syria.

00:58:15.000 They all attacked Saudi Arabia. 0.97

00:58:16.000 They all attacked.

00:58:17.000 Right before they attacked, Israel launched a preemptive strike and blew up the Egyptian air force on the tarmac.

00:58:21.000 In the Six Day War, Israel ends up winning a huge swath of land, including Judea and Samaria, which is the historic heart of biblical Israel.

00:58:30.000 They include the unified Jerusalem, the Israelis, they take the Gaza Strip. 0.96

00:58:34.000 Now, when you launch a war and then you lose the territory, typically you don't get to claim that it is occupied territory. 0.93

00:58:40.000 That's silly towns.

00:58:41.000 But in any case, the UN creates a resolution, UN Resolution 242, which suggests that Israel has to give up occupied territories.

00:58:50.000 Right, not THE occupied territories, occupied territories.

00:58:52.000 Now, the reason that it leaves out the word THE is because some of those territories are given up and some of those areas are maintained.

00:58:59.000 Israel no longer occupies, if that's a word you want to use, the Gaza Strip.

00:59:03.000 Israel pulled out of the Gaza Strip in 2005.

00:59:05.000 They, in fact, forcibly removed all Jews from Gush Katif in 2005.

00:59:09.000 Since then, it has been completely run by the terrorist group Hamas.

00:59:12.000 The Israelis have nothing to do with it except they prevent the importation of weaponry and they prevent terrorists from crossing the border.

00:59:18.000 And in the Palestinian areas in the so-called West Bank, Judea and Samaria, the vast majority of the Palestinian population lives under direct Palestinian governance.

00:59:26.000 Again, Israel polices the borders to make sure that weapons aren't being shipped in.

00:59:30.000 But the so-called occupation?

00:59:32.000 Israeli soldiers are not wandering around in Ramallah.

00:59:35.000 That is all run by the Palestinian Authority.

00:59:38.000 Nonetheless, here's Elizabeth Warren suggesting that Israel is an occupying force despite all of that history and despite the truth, which is that the Palestinian Authority is a terrorist entity. 0.87

00:59:46.000 Hamas is a terrorist entity.

00:59:47.000 They steal the money of their citizens. 1.00

00:59:48.000 They treat their citizens like garbage. 0.98

00:59:50.000 And in the last elections, which were like 2005 for Hamas, 2006 for Hamas, Hi, we're American Jews. 0.97

00:59:57.000 We really love the way you're fighting corruption.

00:59:59.000 We'd really love it if you also pushed the Israeli government to end the occupation.

01:00:03.000 Excellent.

01:00:03.000 So I'm new.

01:00:04.000 Thank you.

01:00:04.000 left so she doesn't have to know history.

01:00:06.000 - Hi, we're American Jews.

01:00:08.000 We really love the way you're fighting corruption.

01:00:10.000 We'd really love it if you also pushed the Israeli government to end the occupation.

01:00:14.000 - Yes, yes.

01:00:15.000 - Excellent.

01:00:15.000 - So I'm here.

01:00:16.000 - Thank you.

01:00:16.000 - So nice to see you.

01:00:17.000 - Nice to see you.

01:00:17.000 - Here, let me get the milk.

01:00:19.000 - Okay, those women, by the way, work for a group called If Not Now, which is an extraordinarily radical anti-Israel group that basically considers Israel's very existence nearly illegitimate.

01:00:31.000 If Not Now is a terrible, terrible group.

01:00:33.000 They're constantly stumping in favor of boycott, divestment and sanctions from Israel, which is an anti-Semitic policy.

01:00:38.000 They've stumped in favor of Hamas's use of civilian shields in the Gaza Strip.

01:00:43.000 They're really bad.

01:00:43.000 There's Elizabeth Warren pandering as hard as she possibly can.

01:00:47.000 This is the new Democratic Party.

01:00:49.000 This is the new Democratic Party.

01:00:50.000 Shout out to one member of the Democratic Party, by the way, who actually said a true thing.

01:00:55.000 Tulsi Gabbard, who is getting a little bit of attention but probably not enough based on her pretty decent debate performance, Tulsi Gabbard said something true.

01:01:04.000 I know, it's always a shock to me.

01:01:05.000 She said that Kamala Harris was pandering on busing, that it was all a ploy, that the federal busing ploy was a bunch of nonsense.

01:01:11.000 This is true.

01:01:13.000 … levying this accusation that Joe Biden is racist, when he's clearly not, as a way to try to smear him.

01:01:22.000 And as you point to the article that I linked to in my tweet, really, what she's saying is her position is the same one that she was criticizing Joe Biden for.

01:01:30.000 So, this is just a political ploy, and I think a very underhanded one, just to try to get her self-attention, to move herself up in the polls. 0.72

01:01:39.000 I think that we need to be above that, all of us.

01:01:41.000 Okay, 100% true.

01:01:42.000 Tulsi Gabbard for the win right there.

01:01:44.000 That is 100% correct.

01:01:46.000 By the way, it is Elizabeth Warren's, it is Kamala Harris' inability to go more than five minutes without switching a position or lying or being overtly political that is leading to her not actually benefiting as much as she probably should be from her debate performance. 1.00

01:02:00.000 Elizabeth Warren instead continues to run by most polls in second place. 0.99

01:02:04.000 This is a four person race at best, probably a three person race, probably Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden.

01:02:09.000 All righty.

01:02:10.000 Well, we'll be back here a little bit later today for two additional hours of content.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - July 10, 2019

Storming The Bastille | Ep. 814

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