The Ben Shapiro Show - Stormy Weather | Ep. 531

00:00:00.000 Rudy Giuliani breaks some interesting news about President Trump's payoff to Stormy Daniels, Hillary Clinton finally stumbles on a true statement accidentally, and Democrats are actually having some problems in the polls.

00:00:09.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:09.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:15.000 Alrighty, so there's a lot of breaking news on the Donald Trump Stormy Daniels front.

00:00:19.000 I'm going to break it all down for you.

00:00:21.000 I'm going to give you all the legal information that you need to understand exactly what's been happening with the Trump payoff to the porn star that Trump once had sex with and why this is important or why it's not important.

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00:01:21.000 Okay, so.

00:01:41.000 Rudy Giuliani is the newest member of the Trump legal team.

00:01:44.000 The Trump legal team has been seeing some turnover in recent days.

00:01:46.000 So Ty Cobb is no longer with the Trump legal team.

00:01:50.000 He takes his 366 lifetime batting average, and he leaves the Trump legal team.

00:01:54.000 Napoli Joy left along with him.

00:01:56.000 But he's being replaced by a guy who was instrumental in helping Bill Clinton fight impeachment charges and criminal charges.

00:02:03.000 So there is an upgrade, I think, in the legal house for President Trump.

00:02:07.000 But then Rudy Giuliani goes on TV.

00:02:09.000 And this is real weird.

00:02:10.000 Because, remember, that the whole Michael Cohen scandal is the one that is most likely to hurt President Trump.

00:02:16.000 The Trump-Russia collusion stuff, I really don't think that's going anywhere.

00:02:19.000 I think that it's very unlikely that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has any serious information that links President Trump to collusion with Russia over the election.

00:02:26.000 I think a lot of the talk about obstruction is going to be very, very difficult to prove.

00:02:29.000 It's more of a political matter than it is a criminal matter.

00:02:33.000 So I really doubt that Robert Mueller has the goods on President Trump.

00:02:36.000 And when I say really doubt, I mean, I would be astonished if he has the legal goods on President Trump, which is why he wants to interview President Trump, because he wants Trump to fall into a perjury trap.

00:02:46.000 He wants President Trump to lie to him, or fib to him, or make a mistake that reveals something to him.

00:02:51.000 So that means that if the real threat is not Robert Mueller to the Trump administration legally, then the real threat is from Michael Cohen.

00:02:57.000 So remember, Michael Cohen is the president's personal lawyer, and his offices a couple of weeks ago were raided by the FBI.

00:03:02.000 Now, the rationale for that raid was supposedly that the FBI was looking for proof of campaign finance violations in the Stormy Daniels payoff.

00:03:10.000 The going legal theory was this.

00:03:12.000 Michael Cohen had given $130,000 to Stormy Daniels to shut her up about an affair she had with Trump back in 2006. 0.94

00:03:17.000 It was right before the election.

00:03:19.000 And Trump said he knew nothing about it.

00:03:21.000 So the legal theory was that Michael Cohen had made an in-kind contribution to the Trump campaign.

00:03:25.000 That the reason that he paid Stormy Daniels to shut up is because it was the very end of the campaign, and he wanted to protect his friend, and so therefore he paid off Stormy Daniels, and this was a campaign payment, essentially, a contribution that passes the $2,700 maximum amount that you're allowed to give, and so Michael Cohen had violated campaign finance law.

00:03:45.000 Now, if Trump had said, listen, I paid for it myself,

00:03:48.000 Then you wouldn't have violated that particular campaign finance law, because Trump is allowed to spend as much on his own election as he wants.

00:03:54.000 Trump ended up spending something like $66 million in the last election cycle on his own elect effort.

00:03:59.000 So if he had said, listen, I paid off Stormy Daniels and that was my thing and I'm allowed to do that, that would have been totally fine.

00:04:06.000 So Michael Cohen was sort of on the hook in terms of the in-kind contribution question,

00:04:11.000 But if Trump had paid for the thing directly and then revealed that to the FEC, that would have been no problem.

00:04:16.000 Which raises a second question.

00:04:17.000 Did Trump pay for it?

00:04:18.000 And if Trump did pay for it, does that get Michael Cohen off the hook?

00:04:21.000 Or does it sort of shift the blame from Cohen to Trump?

00:04:24.000 So here's what Rudy Giuliani said.

00:04:25.000 We'll talk about what Rudy Giuliani said last night.

00:04:27.000 Giuliani is, of course, a new member of the Trump legal team.

00:04:30.000 Do you know about the $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels?

00:04:59.000 And he says no.

00:05:00.000 It's hard to hear him there, but he says no.

00:05:02.000 So Giuliani says basically that's not true.

00:05:04.000 Trump paid off Stormy Daniels via Michael Cohen.

00:05:07.000 He at least reimbursed Michael Cohen.

00:05:08.000 Now, there's a little bit of wiggle room here, but it's kind of hard to believe.

00:05:11.000 The wiggle room here would be that Trump gave a bunch of money to Michael Cohen, not knowing what Michael Cohen was using the money for because he's just that kind of a dude.

00:05:19.000 No.

00:05:20.000 I mean, I don't buy it.

00:05:20.000 I just don't think that that passes the smell test.

00:05:22.000 But here's Rudy Giuliani explaining.

00:05:24.000 I knew how much money Donald Trump put into that campaign.

00:05:27.000 I said, $130,000?

00:05:28.000 He's going to do a couple of checks for $130,000.

00:05:32.000 When I heard Cohen's retainer of $35,000, when he was doing no work for the president, I said, that's how he's repaying it.

00:05:42.000 With a little profit and a little margin for paying taxes.

00:05:45.000 Okay, so the idea here is that Trump reimbursed Michael Cohen in the months after the payoff.

00:05:49.000 Okay, now that could actually be a problem.

00:05:52.000 Giuliani then continued, and he tried to backpedal.

00:05:55.000 So he tried to backpedal, he tried to say, listen, Trump paid, but he didn't know what he was paying for.

00:05:58.000 So Michael Cohen just sort of, he has sort of a slush fund and he uses it for what he wants to use it for.

00:06:02.000 So according to John Roberts over at Fox News, Giuliani said that while Donald Trump reimbursed Cohen for the $130,000 Stormy Daniel payment,

00:06:09.000 Maybe?

00:06:12.000 I kind of doubt it.

00:06:18.000 The White House obviously is in a little bit of chaos over this because they're not sure what legal strategy Giuliani and Trump are running together.

00:06:24.000 Folks at the White House seem to be out of the loop.

00:06:26.000 The White House was asked about this last night and here is what they had to say.

00:06:30.000 We've addressed this many times.

00:06:32.000 Sarah has done that from the podium.

00:06:33.000 I've done it on many shows.

00:06:34.000 Raj has done it as well.

00:06:35.000 But what I can tell you about this instance is it is ongoing legislation.

00:06:39.000 We have nothing to say about it.

00:06:40.000 The president has outside counsel, and that's who I'd have to refer you to.

00:06:43.000 OK, so they say it's ongoing litigation.

00:06:44.000 The problem is that it was ongoing litigation when Giuliani talked about it publicly.

00:06:47.000 So it's very weird that Giuliani is out there talking about this publicly.

00:06:51.000 So what exactly does all of this mean?

00:06:54.000 So there are three ways in which you could theoretically violate campaign finance law in this situation.

00:06:58.000 Way number one is that Michael Cohen gives an in-kind contribution to Trump by giving Stormy Daniels $130,000.

00:07:03.000 In this case, the violation is Michael Cohen's, right?

00:07:07.000 He's as a good friend going above and beyond what you're allowed to do in the middle of a campaign.

00:07:12.000 Now, Cohen's defense on this would be, listen, I'm friends with Trump.

00:07:15.000 I pay off his floozies all the time. 0.99

00:07:17.000 This had nothing to do with the campaign.

00:07:18.000 It's a little bit difficult to say that because Rudy Giuliani then came out and he actually said publicly

00:07:23.000 That President Trump had wanted this done because it was October and this story shouldn't have broken right before the election.

00:07:28.000 So Giuliani is not doing the president any favors by running his mouth.

00:07:31.000 But the original problem here was Michael Cohn's problem, not Trump's.

00:07:35.000 The original problem here was that Michael Cohn might have violated campaign finance law by giving too much money to the campaign, even if you considered that a campaign contribution, which it may or may not have been.

00:07:44.000 Okay, now Trump steps in and he says, no, it was me, right?

00:07:48.000 I paid off.

00:07:48.000 Michael Cohen.

00:07:49.000 So it's not Cohen on the line anymore, now it's me on the line.

00:07:52.000 Well, yes and no.

00:07:53.000 So there's two ways to read the law.

00:07:55.000 Way number one is to say, okay, Michael Cohen was basically just a cutout, Trump was paying Stormy Daniels, Trump's allowed to pay Stormy Daniels, but this puts Trump in a little bit of hot water because he didn't report the contribution to his own campaign to the FEC.

00:08:07.000 So Trump, theoretically, if he had paid, let's say there had been no Michael Cohen, he just paid Stormy Daniels $130,000 to shut up before the election and then not reported that to the FEC, would that be a campaign finance violation?

00:08:18.000 So, maybe yes, maybe no.

00:08:19.000 The case for yes is that it's right before the election, it's a payoff that's meant to shut somebody up right before the election, it sounds like it's a payoff to shut somebody up right before the election,

00:08:27.000 Okay, so that's possibility number one right now in terms of campaign finance violations for Trump.

00:08:31.000 Possibility number two is that Michael Cohen is not actually off the hook.

00:08:45.000 So the popular theory is that Cohen was off the hook now that Trump has said he paid for it, but not utterly clear.

00:08:51.000 So George Conway, who's Kellyanne Conway's husband and who is in fact a prosecutor, he says, he tweeted out a section from the FEC website talking about personal gifts and loans.

00:09:02.000 Quote, if any person, including a relative or friend of the candidate, gives or loans the candidate money for the purpose of influencing any election for federal office, the funds are not considered personal funds of the candidate, even if they are given to the candidate directly.

00:09:13.000 Instead, the gift or loan is considered a contribution from the donor to the campaign, subject to the per-election limit.

00:09:18.000 In other words, even if Michael Cohen paid off Stormy Daniels and was reimbursed by Trump, that is now considered a loan to the campaign by Michael Cohen, which surpasses the amount of money he was allowed to contribute, so he may still be in trouble.

00:09:30.000 He still may have made an unlawful campaign contribution to President Trump.

00:09:34.000 Now, all of this sounds like it should be secondary to the major issue, which is that the President of the United States was paying off a porn star in the middle of the election cycle and then lying about it to the American public for months.

00:09:44.000 This is a serious moral problem.

00:09:46.000 But this is not going to damage Trump in any way, realistically speaking, because everybody knows what Trump is.

00:09:51.000 So it's funny, the left today, they're saying, well, you know, why isn't the right turning on Trump?

00:09:55.000 The right isn't turning on Trump because—is anyone shocked by this?

00:09:58.000 Is anyone surprised?

00:09:58.000 I didn't believe for one solitary second that Trump had not paid off Stormy Daniels.

00:10:02.000 I don't believe for one solitary second that Trump didn't screw Stormy Daniels.

00:10:05.000 I am sure he did.

00:10:08.000 I don't believe for a solitary second that Trump has clean hands in all of this.

00:10:11.000 But why is that surprising?

00:10:12.000 I mean, he's Donald Trump.

00:10:14.000 This goes to my strong market sufficiency theorem about President Trump.

00:10:18.000 Which is that President Trump, everything is priced in. 0.98

00:10:20.000 All the garbage, all the nonsense, all of it is priced in. 0.90

00:10:23.000 So if Trump's at 49% in the approval ratings right now, and he's somewhere in the 40s, 0.98

00:10:28.000 All of this is priced in. 0.99

00:10:29.000 None of this is really going to damage him in any serious way, just as the Monica Lewinsky scandal only damaged President Clinton a little bit because everybody already knew that Bill Clinton was scum with women. 0.99

00:10:37.000 So this is not a real shock at all. 0.98

00:10:40.000 But nonetheless, the media are treating this like a major revelation because, in fact, it is a serious problem for law, right?

00:10:47.000 I mean, there could actually be a prosecution on the basis of this for campaign finance violations, although

00:10:52.000 The predicate for such prosecutions is pretty slim.

00:10:55.000 Remember, John Edwards was prosecuted for something very similar after he did the same thing in the 2008 election cycle.

00:11:01.000 If you recall, John Edwards had a mistress, he impregnated his mistress, and then he had his donors give a million dollars to shut her up.

00:11:07.000 He was prosecuted on six counts federally.

00:11:10.000 There's a hung jury and then the charges were dropped.

00:11:12.000 Presumably this would be a very, very similar case, although it's for a lot less money.

00:11:16.000 And if you're talking about people violating the extent of the campaign finance regulations, Barack Obama

00:11:24.000 Well, everybody on the left is suggesting this is the downfall of Trump.

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00:12:52.000 The White House is apparently in a little bit of chaos over all of what Giuliani has had to say.

00:12:57.000 So, according to Politico, Giuliani joined Trump's legal team with a mandate to quickly and aggressively stamp out the various investigations dogging the presidency.

00:13:04.000 Instead, he's causing new migraines for the White House.

00:13:06.000 Giuliani appeared to stun Fox News host Sean Hannity on Wednesday night by revealing that Trump reimbursed his personal lawyer, Michael Cohn, for a $130,000 payment Cohn had made to the porn actress Stormy Daniels for her silence about an alleged affair.

00:13:18.000 The statement, along with Giuliani's comment that Trump didn't know about the general arrangements of the payment,

00:13:22.000 Appeared to contradict the President's denial of any knowledge of the deal.

00:13:25.000 Now, the difference here, of course, is that President Clinton committed perjury.

00:13:28.000 Trump may have lied, but he didn't commit perjury because he wasn't in any testimony, right?

00:13:32.000 He wasn't testifying before Congress.

00:13:34.000 He hadn't talked to the FBI yet.

00:13:35.000 Just another reason why you should not have the President speaking to Robert Mueller and the FBI.

00:13:39.000 If you do, the chances that he fibs, at least a little bit, are 197% out of a possible 100%.

00:13:46.000 Okay, the chances that Trump says something that is wrong in those hearings— I've been talking with some folks from the White House, and what I've been saying is, look, if Trump is subpoenaed by Robert Mueller, all he should do is go in and say, I don't recall.

00:13:57.000 Whenever you watch the movies and you see people say, I don't recall, the reason that that sounds like an admission of guilt is because you think that they're trying to escape the truth.

00:14:05.000 But in Trump's case, the reason that you would say, I don't recall, is because you can't actually be prosecuted for saying, I don't recall, and Trump

00:14:12.000 is likely to step on his own toes.

00:14:14.000 And I'm using toes euphemistically there.

00:14:16.000 The president of the United States has a bad habit of saying things that get in his own way.

00:14:20.000 And so you don't want him in a room with with Robert Mueller for 12 hours talking about Stormy Daniels.

00:14:26.000 The chances of some sort of perjury charge coming out of that are a lot higher than Trump just going in and saying, I don't remember.

00:14:33.000 Right.

00:14:33.000 This is what any lawyer would say, by the way.

00:14:34.000 This has nothing to do with PR.

00:14:36.000 The PR spin is a completely different spin.

00:14:38.000 But the lawyerly spin of any client that I had as a lawyer, if they were in this sort of situation, I would tell them, you don't talk to anyone, right?

00:14:45.000 This is the first rule of lawyering.

00:14:46.000 If you're ever arrested by the police, okay, I'm not talking about whether you're innocent or guilty here.

00:14:50.000 I'm talking about good legal strategy.

00:14:51.000 If you are ever arrested by the police, or if the FBI comes to talk to you, your first answer is always going to be, I need my lawyer.

00:14:57.000 And your second answer is going to be, I don't know.

00:14:59.000 I don't recall.

00:15:00.000 I plead the fifth.

00:15:02.000 Talking to the people who are presumably going to prosecute you is never a particularly smart move.

00:15:06.000 Okay, this is not me playing OJ Simpson's lawyer here.

00:15:09.000 This is me just saying that any lawyer worth their salt would say the exact same thing about any client they had under any circumstances.

00:15:15.000 Okay, so, meanwhile, damage control is underway at the White House.

00:15:19.000 So, Trump on Twitter has tried to bring attention back to the argument that such a payment would not be a violation of campaign finance law.

00:15:25.000 So this morning, President Trump is tweeting about it.

00:15:28.000 Then he tweets, Clearly, Trump has his lawyer actually tweeting for him in this case.

00:15:30.000 I mean, this is clearly not Trump tweeting.

00:15:31.000 It's obvious from the grammar.

00:15:32.000 It's obvious from the syntax.

00:15:33.000 But that's fine.

00:15:34.000 I mean, what he's saying here, he's making his case.

00:15:35.000 He says,

00:15:53.000 Okay, well, I mean, to be fair, NDAs where you pay off porn stars for having sex with them while your wife was just recovering from a pregnancy, is it very common among celebrities and people of wealth?

00:16:03.000 I mean, it might be like some of them do it, but I'm not going to pretend that everybody does it.

00:16:08.000 In this case, it is full force in effect and will be used in arbitration for damages against Ms.

00:16:12.000 Clifford Daniels.

00:16:13.000 The agreement was used to stop the false and extortionist accusations made by her about an affair, despite already having signed a detailed letter admitting there was no affair.

00:16:20.000 Okay now, it is important to note here, she signed that detailed letter admitting there is no affair under the terms of the settlement agreement.

00:16:25.000 Prior to its violation by Ms.

00:16:26.000 Clifford and her attorney, this was a private agreement.

00:16:29.000 Money from the campaign or campaign contributions played no role in this transaction.

00:16:34.000 Okay, so all of that is, you know, that's Trump's case, right?

00:16:38.000 And then that goes to the legal case that I was talking about.

00:16:41.000 The suggestion is by Trump that he was just giving Michael Cohen a bunch of money, didn't know where that money was going.

00:16:46.000 Michael Cohen then used that money out of the goodness of his heart, having nothing to do with the campaign, right?

00:16:49.000 That's the way that everybody escapes legal liability here.

00:16:52.000 It doesn't help Trump in the PR war, but I'm not sure Trump needs help in the PR war, because, again, Trump is Trump.

00:16:57.000 I mean, you can clock the guy with 87 porn star charges, and no one is going to care, because everybody already assumes he's doing all of this stuff.

00:17:04.000 So White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders went on Fox & Friends.

00:17:07.000 He said, Well, that would be true, except for the fact that Giuliani was sent out there by Trump to say things on Hannity.

00:17:20.000 Again, I agree.

00:17:22.000 There's a lot of great stuff happening inside the administration.

00:17:24.000 For example, here's a news story that nobody is talking about today because we're all talking about Rudy Giuliani.

00:17:29.000 Three Americans held in North Korea could be freed soon.

00:17:31.000 Trump tweeted out yesterday, So there's solid rumors today that North Korea is going to release these three people in the run-up to their negotiations with the President of the United States.

00:17:49.000 Trump was apparently referring to Tony Kim, also known as Kim Sang-duk, an American teacher detained by North Korea in April 2017.

00:17:55.000 Kim Hak-song, known as Jing Ju-song, whose detention was announced the following month.

00:17:59.000 And Kim Dong-chul, who was arrested in 2015.

00:18:01.000 They right now are supposed to be in a North Korean labor camp.

00:18:05.000 So, now it appears that the North Koreans may in fact be working to release these three Americans.

00:18:10.000 Is that a Trump triumph?

00:18:12.000 Well, without any other information, sure, of course it is.

00:18:16.000 I mean, without any other information, of course it's a Trump triumph.

00:18:19.000 Now, if Trump makes a bunch of concessions to the North Koreans based on that, then of course it's not a triumph, but this is a very good story for Trump. 0.97

00:18:26.000 Just on its face, it's a very good story for Trump.

00:18:28.000 But the fact that Giuliani decided to run out there and talk openly about the Stormy Daniels payment is a distraction created by the White House, and it just gives more air to people like Michael Avenatti, who is, of course, the attorney for Stormy Daniels.

00:18:40.000 Avenatti has appeared in the last month 59 times on CNN.

00:18:45.000 59 times.

00:18:45.000 The previous record had been held by Adam Schiff at like 10.

00:18:48.000 But apparently, Michael Avenatti now has actually rented out the green room.

00:18:52.000 Like, he actually has a bathroom there.

00:18:54.000 He's brought in a sleeping bag.

00:18:55.000 He basically just hangs out on the set at CNN waiting for Trump to say stuff.

00:18:58.000 And so Michael Avenatti on MSNBC yesterday, he's also on MSNBC a lot, he says that he was speechless about Giuliani's revelations.

00:19:05.000 You know, obviously he believes that this gives more impetus to his claims that Trump was innately involved with the Stormy Daniels payoff and that it was a campaign finance violation.

00:19:13.000 You know, I have to tell you, I am rarely, as your viewers know, rendered speechless, but I am absolutely speechless at this revelation and this admission.

00:19:26.000 And I hope that your viewers and I hope the American people, upon hearing this and watching that clip, they should be outraged.

00:19:36.000 Okay, I'm not sure why they should be outraged except for the fact that Trump lied, but again, is anyone shocked by the fact that Trump lied about sex?

00:19:44.000 Like, again, do I think it's bad?

00:19:46.000 Yes.

00:19:47.000 It's so funny.

00:19:48.000 We're now repeating the exact arguments from the 90s.

00:19:50.000 So, the Democrats used to say in the 90s about President Clinton's sexual peccadilloes, it's just about sex.

00:19:55.000 And then Republicans would say, no, it's about lying. 0.89

00:19:57.000 And the Democrats would say, well, everybody lies about sex.

00:19:59.000 Well now just reverse the parties and you have the exact same argument being made.

00:20:02.000 Republicans saying it's just about sex and Democrats saying, well no, he lied about the sex.

00:20:06.000 And Republicans are saying, well everybody lies about the sex.

00:20:09.000 Okay, here's the reality.

00:20:10.000 Not everybody lies about the sex. 0.84

00:20:11.000 Trump is not good when it comes to women. 0.99

00:20:13.000 He's a very immoral man when it comes to his treatment of women in his personal life. 0.99

00:20:16.000 He has been for 40 years. 0.96

00:20:17.000 Okay, that's nothing new.

00:20:19.000 But that's the point.

00:20:20.000 It's nothing new.

00:20:21.000 OK?

00:20:21.000 End of story.

00:20:22.000 So is that going to have any serious impact on him politically?

00:20:25.000 Probably not, unless something criminal is on the back of this, which I seriously doubt.

00:20:29.000 Again, I don't think that the case is quite solid enough.

00:20:31.000 Now, meanwhile, Rudy Giuliani wasn't just talking about that.

00:20:34.000 Rudy Giuliani seems to be setting up the possibility that President Trump is going to fire Rod Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, and then fire Robert Mueller along with him.

00:20:42.000 I don't think that Trump is going to do that.

00:20:44.000 I don't think Trump should do that.

00:20:46.000 But Rudy Giuliani is speaking in

00:20:49.000 Rather militant tones about about Robert Mueller.

00:20:52.000 It's pretty amazing, actually.

00:20:53.000 Here's Giuliani yesterday saying that saying that saying that, well, first of all, Rudy Giuliani did say that Robert Mueller was obviously trying to trap Trump into perjury.

00:21:03.000 And then he was trying to say that Trump fired Comey over over his failure to clear Trump of Russia.

00:21:08.000 This, of course, is my theory all along.

00:21:11.000 The reason that Giuliani talking about all this, being not particularly useful, is because all of this is going to come out in the wash.

00:21:17.000 I really believe that if the administration just sits, and they just sit and they wait, and they don't try to force things, that Mueller has no evidence that Trump fired James Comey to cover anything up, because Trump wasn't actually trying to cover anything up.

00:21:28.000 This has been my contention all along.

00:21:30.000 The reason that Trump fired James Comey is because he was pissed that James Comey wouldn't clear him on Russia.

00:21:34.000 And I don't mean that he wouldn't shut down the investigation, but that he wouldn't say publicly that Trump wasn't under investigation.

00:21:39.000 Trump has basically said as much.

00:21:40.000 Well, Giuliani reiterated that last night.

00:22:01.000 Lester Holt's interview was as good as anybody could do, better than I think any of the people around Mueller could have done.

00:22:09.000 Lester Holt asked him, why'd you do it?

00:22:11.000 He said, I did it because I felt that I had to explain to the American people their president was not the target of the investigation.

00:22:18.000 Okay, now that is obviously true, what Giuliani is saying here.

00:22:21.000 But rehashing this entire case, you could see this easily as President Trump sending Giuliani out there to make the case that there's nothing for Mueller to find, so we ought to fire Mueller.

00:22:30.000 And Giuliani went further than this.

00:22:31.000 He said James Comey is a liar. 0.93

00:22:32.000 He calls him a pervert, which is really interesting. 0.95

00:22:34.000 So here's Giuliani going after James Comey hammer and tongs.

00:22:38.000 I know James Comey.

00:22:39.000 I know the president. 1.00

00:22:41.000 Sorry, Jim, you're a liar. 1.00

00:22:43.000 A disgraceful liar. 1.00

00:22:45.000 Every FBI agent in America has his head down because of you. 0.99

00:22:49.000 Well, he lied about his conversation with McCabe.

00:22:52.000 He knew all of McCabe's conflicts.

00:22:55.000 I don't think so.

00:23:11.000 The one thing he lied about is the idea that he didn't leak to his friend.

00:23:15.000 He obviously leaked to his friend.

00:23:16.000 That's James Comey's biggest lie.

00:23:17.000 But in terms of general honesty, I don't think that James Comey is a giant liar.

00:23:21.000 I just think that James Comey is rather spineless.

00:23:23.000 I think that James Comey is a guy who at every step of the way was madly incompetent and made a lot of mistakes, and then is acting righteously indignant after he was fired for, I think, pretty decent reason.

00:23:33.000 But the question is why Giuliani is doing all of this now, and the answer may be that

00:23:37.000 Maybe, in fact, Trump is thinking of firing Mueller.

00:23:40.000 Now, if that's the case, Mr. President, please do not do this.

00:23:43.000 Do not do this.

00:23:44.000 It will all be OK.

00:23:45.000 Don't rush the game.

00:23:46.000 And the fact is that Robert Mueller is going to come out one way or another with something or nothing.

00:23:50.000 If he comes out with the stuff as weak as it sounds like he's going to come out with, everybody on the right and people in the middle are going to say this is a big, fat nothing.

00:23:58.000 This has been a witch hunt.

00:23:59.000 This has been a waste of time.

00:24:00.000 It's been a waste of money.

00:24:01.000 Firing him precipitously would only allow the left to claim that you are, in fact, obstructing justice by shutting down the investigation.

00:24:07.000 Don't shut this down precipitously.

00:24:10.000 I don't think that it's that Mueller has a right to finish his investigation.

00:24:13.000 He doesn't.

00:24:13.000 I mean, the fact is the president can fire him, and that would be perfectly legal.

00:24:17.000 And then it would be up to Mueller to show that it actually was obstruction, that this actually was an attempt to shut down an investigation, not just pure frustration on Trump's part.

00:24:24.000 But if the idea here is to set the sort of framework for Trump firing Mueller, firing Rosenstein, I think that'd be a big political mistake.

00:24:31.000 And I don't think the president needs to follow that right now.

00:24:33.000 I don't think the president needs to make that sort of political mistake, because I think the president's doing OK.

00:24:37.000 I mean, his approval ratings right now are as good as they've been.

00:24:39.000 The Democrats continue to flounder.

00:24:41.000 And there's a new pullout yesterday showing the Democrats are only up three on the congressional generic ballot.

00:24:45.000 That's an incredible thing.

00:24:47.000 Why exactly are they only up three?

00:24:50.000 Part of it is because President Trump's economy is so fantastic.

00:24:52.000 I mean, the economy under President Trump has been excellent. 0.97

00:24:55.000 Part of it is the fact that the Democrats suck at everything, and the Democrats are so radical. 0.71

00:24:58.000 So this is an amazing thing. 0.96

00:24:59.000 Yesterday, Hillary Clinton was out there talking about, again, why she didn't win in 2016.

00:25:05.000 And it's everybody else's fault.

00:25:06.000 It's not Hillary Clinton's fault.

00:25:07.000 But she stumbled on something true.

00:25:09.000 She stumbled on something true.

00:25:10.000 And it's pretty amazing.

00:25:11.000 So here's Hillary Clinton admitting that the entire Democratic base, or at least large swaths of it, are full-scale socialists who hate capitalism. 0.98

00:25:19.000 You may be the only presidential candidate since World War II that actually had to stand up and say, I am a capitalist.

00:25:26.000 And you did.

00:25:27.000 Did it hurt you?

00:25:28.000 Probably.

00:25:29.000 I mean, you know, it's hard to know, but I mean, if you're in the Iowa caucuses and 41% of Democrats are socialists or self-described socialists, and I'm asked, are you a capitalist?

00:25:41.000 And I say yes, but with appropriate regulation and appropriate accountability, you know, that probably gets lost in the, oh my gosh, she's a capitalist! 0.99

00:25:53.000 Okay, so this is exactly right, actually.

00:25:55.000 What she is saying here, that her base cannot tolerate the fact that she is a capitalist, demonstrates how far left the Democratic Party has moved.

00:26:02.000 Hillary Clinton was too right-wing for her own base, which is why they didn't show up. 1.00

00:26:06.000 What we're watching inside the Democratic Party is a radical shift to the left.

00:26:09.000 President Trump has taken advantage of that, because President Trump is not nearly as radical on any of these issues.

00:26:14.000 The Democrats, their response to President Trump has not been to moderate, to move to the center, to take back that center that they think that Trump had abandoned.

00:26:21.000 They've been calling Trump far-right.

00:26:23.000 Trump has been governing as a very conservative president.

00:26:26.000 Instead of them moving to the center to try to take advantage, which is what a smart political party would do, instead the Democrats have been moving further and further to the left.

00:26:32.000 This is the first time that Hillary Clinton has really recognized that she may be out of step with her own constituency. 0.75

00:26:39.000 And she is out of step with her own constituency.

00:26:41.000 Something really bad is happening in the United States among people on the left, and that is this wild, this full-scale embrace of socialism itself.

00:26:49.000 There's a poll from Rasmussen.

00:26:51.000 It shows that 46% of Americans now say they favor government-guaranteed jobs for all.

00:26:56.000 So according to Rasmussen reports, Senator Bernie Sanders is looking ahead to the 2020 presidential election with a proposed federal government program that guarantees all Americans a job with health insurance.

00:27:05.000 Nearly half of voters like the idea.

00:27:07.000 46% of voters say that they like all of this, that they think this is a great idea.

00:27:14.000 That's an amazing, amazing statistic.

00:27:16.000 And again, it demonstrates that the American people are being ill-served by their thought leaders who refuse to explain to them why capitalism is good.

00:27:23.000 The reason that Hillary Clinton could not be a good representative of capitalism is because she really does not believe in capitalism in any serious sense. 0.68

00:27:30.000 She believes that capitalism is effective, but she doesn't believe that capitalism is moral.

00:27:33.000 And so Bernie Sanders comes along and he seizes her entire base by saying, listen, capitalism may be effective, but it is immoral. 0.63

00:27:40.000 And Hillary Clinton is immoral. 1.00

00:27:41.000 And anyone who backs capitalism is immoral. 0.82

00:27:44.000 This is why it's incumbent on Americans to stand up and say no to socialism and say that socialism itself is immoral.

00:27:50.000 Because socialism itself is immoral. 0.99

00:27:51.000 The idea that you were born and therefore you deserve crap from the government is nonsense. 0.94

00:27:56.000 The idea that you sit there and you exist and therefore everyone who is around you ought to give you things. 0.99

00:28:01.000 That is a purely selfish idea.

00:28:02.000 It is immoral.

00:28:03.000 It's a violation of at least three of the Ten Commandments.

00:28:06.000 The Ten Commandments include the idea that you're not supposed to worship government as God.

00:28:10.000 They include the ban on theft.

00:28:11.000 It is indeed theft if you and your friends vote to steal my money.

00:28:14.000 And the Ten Commandments ban jealousy. 0.72

00:28:16.000 You're not allowed to envy your neighbor's donkey.

00:28:19.000 You're not supposed to be looking at your friend's property and eyeing it for seizure.

00:28:24.000 But because people have stopped speaking in moral terms, there's an upswing on the socialist left, and that upswing ended up toppling Hillary Clinton.

00:28:30.000 It was a serious problem for Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:28:33.000 The radicalization of the left is a serious problem for the Democratic Party in general, not just for Hillary Clinton. 0.92

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00:29:48.000 So the same radicalization of the Democratic Party that threw Hillary Clinton out of power is also leading to a bit of a backslide for Democrats in terms of their reach, particularly for young people.

00:29:58.000 So according to a new poll from Reuters, enthusiasm for the Democratic Party is actually waning among millennials as its candidates head into the crucial midterm congressional elections.

00:30:06.000 The online survey of more than 16,000 registered voters aged 18 to 34 shows their support for Democrats over Republicans for Congress slipped by about 9 percentage points over the past two years to 46% overall, and they increasingly say the Republican Party is a better steward of the economy.

00:30:21.000 Now, nearly two-thirds of young voters say they don't like Trump, but their distaste for him does not extend to all Republicans, which presents a potential problem for Democrats who are counting on millennials as a core constituency, because Democrats have moved really far to the left,

00:30:35.000 Millennials are looking at the Democrats' identity politics, and they're looking at the Democrats' full-scale Bernie Sanders socialism, and they're not quite as enchanted as maybe they once were as the economy booms.

00:30:45.000 And they certainly don't like the identity politics of all this, which I'm going to get to in one second.

00:30:49.000 But the bleed over for Democrats, Democrats figured, OK, well, maybe our coalition is fractious, but Trump should unify that coalition because everybody hates Trump.

00:30:56.000 It ain't happening.

00:30:57.000 The polls aren't showing this.

00:30:59.000 Terry Hood, 34, an African-American who works at a Dollar General store in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, said he voted for Democrat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election, but he'll consider a Republican for Congress because he believes the party is making it easier to find jobs, and he applauds the recent Republican-led tax cut.

00:31:15.000 So the Reuters, Ipsos poll surveyed young voters during the first three months of this year and the same period in 2016.

00:31:20.000 Only 28% of those polls expressed overt support for Republicans in the 2018 poll, about the same percentage as two years earlier.

00:31:26.000 But that doesn't mean that everybody's going to show up to back Democrats.

00:31:29.000 So Democrats, once again,

00:31:31.000 So much of our politics right now revolves around President Trump and what the Republicans are doing because they run the government.

00:31:37.000 The reality is that just as in 2016, the Democrats lost because the Democrats were terrible, in 2018, the Democrats could easily lose because the Democrats are terrible.

00:31:45.000 There's another poll out there, by the way, that should be shocking to a lot of folks on the left, and that is that their identity politics are not working increasingly among young black men.

00:31:54.000 So according to a poll taken on April 22, 2018,

00:31:59.000 Trump's approval rating among black men was at 11%.

00:32:02.000 The same poll a week later pegged the approval rating at 22%.

00:32:05.000 So, it should be noted that the margin of error there?

00:32:09.000 is pretty significant, considering that there are only about 200 black males each week who are surveyed by the Reuters running poll.

00:32:15.000 But Trump is experiencing a jump in approval among black people overall.

00:32:19.000 It spiked 8.9% from 8.9% April 22nd to 16.5% on April 29th.

00:32:20.000 Black males were also far more likely to say that they had mixed feelings about the president on the 22nd.

00:32:23.000 1.5% said they had mixed feelings.

00:32:24.000 7.1% said the same on the 29th.

00:32:35.000 So, it's very possible, by the way, that a lot of this is due to Kanye West saying, listen, you're allowed to think for yourselves, and it doesn't mean that you're a bad black person if you decide that you want to vote for President Trump or that you like Republicans.

00:32:47.000 I think that the crack in the wall that Kanye West actually presented was an important cultural moment.

00:32:51.000 So, I'm not saying, again, Kanye West is a conservative thought leader because I don't think he is.

00:32:56.000 I'm not saying that Kanye West knows that much about politics, because I don't think he does.

00:32:59.000 I'm saying that Kanye West ain't kooky, because I think that Kanye West's a pretty kooky guy.

00:33:03.000 But Kanye West, a major cultural figure, standing up and saying, listen, you don't have to think the way the left wants you to think, is breaking down a significant barrier for a lot of people.

00:33:12.000 And as my friend Eric Weinstein, who I will correct this, he's a Harvard

00:33:16.000 Theoretical mathematician.

00:33:18.000 When he said that there are a lot of people whose preferences are being hidden by the prevailing politically correct orthodoxy, and that Kanye had shattered that politically correct orthodoxy, or at least cracked the wall, I think there's a lot of truth to that.

00:33:33.000 And the polls are showing it.

00:33:34.000 I think people are tired of the identity politics.

00:33:36.000 I think people are bored with the identity politics.

00:33:38.000 I think people want to have conversations.

00:33:39.000 I'm seeing it in my own life.

00:33:40.000 I'm seeing it in my own life.

00:33:42.000 People who I would not have been able to have conversations with

00:33:45.000 Three years ago, suddenly are interested in talking seriously about political issues that afflict the country because they are tired of being boxed into this area where if you talk to somebody who is just a mainstream conservative, this somehow makes you bad.

00:33:56.000 Now, I'm not a person who believes that all views are created equally valid or equally useful or that everybody has to talk with everybody, but I do think that it's important that for people who have mainstream views to talk to each other,

00:34:07.000 And not consider each other evil or bad or terrible.

00:34:10.000 That is a useful thing and not only a useful thing, a necessary thing if we hope the country survives.

00:34:14.000 I think increasingly that's happening.

00:34:16.000 Something is changing.

00:34:17.000 You can feel it in the air.

00:34:18.000 You can feel it in the air.

00:34:19.000 You can feel that there's a whole group, particularly of young people, who are tired of the pat answers being given by parties on all sides.

00:34:26.000 They're tired of the tribalism.

00:34:27.000 They're tired of the idea on the right that everything that President Trump does ever is wonderful and great.

00:34:32.000 But they're much more tired on the left.

00:34:34.000 Of the idea that everything they say has to be boxed into a particular little group identity.

00:34:40.000 I don't want to harp on Kanye West too much, but I do think that what we're watching right now is something really, really important.

00:34:45.000 And I think that it's important to note it as it happens.

00:34:48.000 I don't think that everybody in the black community is suddenly going to agree with Kanye West about taxes, or certainly about his comments on slavery.

00:34:54.000 I don't think everybody in the black community is going to agree with Candace Owens.

00:34:56.000 But I do think that when people see major cultural figures saying, listen, I can have a conversation with anybody and you're allowed to, I think that's breaking the mold.

00:35:04.000 It's changing things.

00:35:06.000 And that's having a market impact insofar as our elections.

00:35:09.000 Pretty incredible stuff.

00:35:10.000 So, meanwhile, speaking of that, speaking of the left to overreach, we talked a little bit this week about the crazy controversy that had broken out over this Utah girl who had worn a historically Chinese dress to a prom.

00:35:25.000 And the left went nuts.

00:35:25.000 The hard left said that this girl had done something deeply wrong.

00:35:29.000 It was cultural appropriation.

00:35:30.000 It was terrible in every way.

00:35:31.000 How could she? 0.93

00:35:32.000 She's a bad person. 0.96

00:35:33.000 And she refused to apologize, as well she should.

00:35:37.000 Showing, once again, that strong people should not apologize in the face of overwhelming pressure when they are right.

00:35:42.000 She was not wrong. 1.00

00:35:44.000 Now, here's the part that's hilarious.

00:35:46.000 It just goes to show that the identity politics of the left, I think, is boring people.

00:35:50.000 There's an article from the New York Times, and here's the title of it.

00:35:57.000 Okay, so in other words, there are a bunch of people in China, and they have no idea why this is even remotely controversial.

00:36:03.000 So Chinese people are looking at this high school girl wearing a historically Chinese dress, and they're going, so what?

00:36:10.000 Like, why is that bad?

00:36:11.000 Like, great, now we can sell more prom dresses. 0.97

00:36:13.000 What's the big problem here?

00:36:14.000 Here's the article.

00:36:15.000 When Kezia Daum wore a Chinese-style dress to her high school prom in Utah, it set off an uproar, but not because of its tight fit or thigh-high slit. 0.94

00:36:22.000 After Ms. 0.81

00:36:22.000 Dahlma 18 shared pictures on social media of her prom night, a Twitter user named Jeremy Lamb hotly responded in a post that has been retweeted nearly 42,000 times. 0.81

00:36:29.000 My culture is not your prom dress, he wrote, adding profanity for effect.

00:36:33.000 I'm proud of my culture for it simply to be subject to American consumerism and cater to a white audience is parallel to colonial ideology.

00:36:40.000 Okay, but when the Fuhrer reached Asia, many seemed to be scratching their heads.

00:36:43.000 This is the New York Times reporting, not the Daily Wire, right?

00:36:45.000 Far from being critical of Ms.

00:36:46.000 Dallam, who is not Chinese, many people in mainland China, Hong Kong, and Taiwan proclaimed her choice of the traditional high-neck dress as a victory for Chinese culture.

00:36:53.000 Quote.

00:36:54.000 I am very proud to have our culture recognized by people in other countries," said someone called Snail Trail, commenting on a post of the Utah episode by a popular account on WeChat.

00:37:02.000 It's ridiculous to criticize this as cultural appropriation.

00:37:04.000 Zhao Yijun, a Hong Kong-based cultural commentator, said in a telephone interview, from the perspective of a Chinese person, if a foreign woman wears a qipao and thinks she looks pretty, why shouldn't she wear it?

00:37:14.000 If anything, the uproar surrounding Ms. 0.58

00:37:15.000 Dalm's dress prompted many Chinese to reflect on examples of cultural appropriation in their own country.

00:37:20.000 So does that mean when we celebrate Christmas and Halloween it's also cultural appropriation?

00:37:23.000 Asked one WeChat user, Larissa.

00:37:25.000 Others were quick to point out that the kipow, as it is known in China, was introduced by the Manchus, an ethnic minority group from China's northeast, implying that the garment was itself appropriated by the majority Han Chinese.

00:37:35.000 In its original form, the dress was worn in a baggy style mostly by upper-class women during the Qing Dynasty, which ruled China for more than 250 years until 1912. 0.89

00:37:42.000 It was only in the 1920s and 30s.

00:37:46.000 When Western influence began seeping into China, that the kipow was reinvented to become a seductive body-hugging dress that many think of today. 0.97

00:37:52.000 For many cinephiles, it has become inextricably associated with Maggie Cheung, the actress who wore a stunning array of cheongsangs in War Kai-Wei's 2000 film In the Mood for Love.

00:38:02.000 These days, it's rare to see Chinese women wearing kipows in the street. 1.00

00:38:05.000 Western fast fashion has taken over.

00:38:07.000 So in other words, people are wearing each other's clothing from their different cultures, and no one cares. 0.98

00:38:11.000 But the fact that the left

00:38:13.000 They have to declare Kanye West appropriated by the white community.

00:38:18.000 The fact that they have to declare this girl from Utah a cultural imperialist is an amazing thing.

00:38:24.000 It's an amazing thing.

00:38:25.000 And it's driving people out of their arms.

00:38:27.000 The crazier they are, the more people are going to be listening to shows like mine.

00:38:30.000 The crazier they are, the more people are going to say, really guys, this is the best you have to offer?

00:38:36.000 The more the left lies about the idea that we're not brothers, the more the left suggests that we're not brothers and sisters, we're enemies who have to be boxed off into our own little ghettos and we can't talk with each other and we can't look at stuff in each other's culture and say, wow, that's pretty cool, let's do some of that.

00:38:50.000 The more we do that, the more people say, well, hold on a second, hold up.

00:38:54.000 So you're saying that

00:38:57.000 According to the left, you're saying, I can't wear a Chinese-style dress, but it is better if I import products from China and people from China into the United States as a general rule.

00:39:07.000 So you want us to bring people here, but then you don't want us to assimilate to some of their culture and then to assimilate to some of our culture.

00:39:13.000 You don't want any of that.

00:39:13.000 You don't want any of the cross-cultural exchange.

00:39:16.000 McDonald's is cultural imperialism, but it's very good when a bunch of illegal immigrants come into the country and don't learn to speak English. 1.00

00:39:22.000 That's a great thing, according to the left.

00:39:24.000 That's unreasonable.

00:39:25.000 It's an unreasonable position. 1.00

00:39:26.000 And there are too many people in America who are reasonable to fall prey to the stupidity of this nonsense from the left. 1.00

00:39:32.000 So, good for them. 1.00

00:39:34.000 Good for Kanye.

00:39:35.000 Good for this girl for not bowing to politically correct pressure. 1.00

00:39:39.000 And again, I think that kudos to the left for being as crazy as they are, because without them, I think Republicans would be losing a lot more elections.

00:39:47.000 Okay, time for a thing I like and then some things that I hate. 0.84

00:39:49.000 So, things that I like.

00:39:51.000 Yesterday I did a Tower of Power song, and I referenced another Tower of Power song, so we'll do that other one.

00:39:55.000 What is Hip, which is their best song.

00:39:57.000 I don't know why.

00:39:58.000 I'm on a Tower of Power kick.

00:39:59.000 I'm on a funk kick.

00:40:00.000 So here is a Tower of Power's What is Hip.

00:40:39.000 OK, so solid stuff.

00:40:40.000 So check out Tower of Power.

00:40:41.000 It's amazing how little music has changed in the last 50 years.

00:40:44.000 Like, really, this is not that different from a lot of the music that's being released today.

00:40:47.000 There's been kind of a stagnation, I think, in a lot of the music world.

00:40:51.000 Funk is coming back, and you can hear the sort of riffs of Tower of Power in a lot of today's modern music.

00:40:58.000 It sounds very similar, actually, in certain ways.

00:41:01.000 What was that song that I played a while back that's

00:41:04.000 It had all of the hidden references, the Easter eggs in the video.

00:41:08.000 Oh, forget it.

00:41:09.000 I'll talk about it later.

00:41:10.000 But in any case, you can hear the cultural influences of Tower of Power resonating still, just like you can hear earth, wind, and fire in a lot of modern music as well.

00:41:18.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.

00:41:23.000 So I'd be remiss if I did not discuss the situation that arose yesterday with Alex Jones.

00:41:28.000 So this is just, frankly, hysterically funny.

00:41:31.000 So yesterday, there was an announcement by Alex Jones that Candace Owens and Kanye West were going to appear on his show.

00:41:37.000 And I tweeted out, no.

00:41:38.000 No, God, no, basically, right?

00:41:40.000 No, Kanye.

00:41:41.000 No, no.

00:41:41.000 It was a joke, right?

00:41:42.000 Like, don't do it.

00:41:43.000 Don't go out and don't do Alex's show. 0.95

00:41:45.000 Alex is a crazy person, right? 1.00

00:41:46.000 Alex Jones is a nut job. 1.00

00:41:48.000 Alex Jones is a guy who thinks that the frogs are being turned gay purposefully by the government. 0.99

00:41:52.000 Alex Jones is a guy who suggested that Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. 1.00

00:41:57.000 Alex Jones is a crazy, he's a crazy person. 1.00

00:41:59.000 He's a crazy human, okay? 1.00

00:42:01.000 And I don't mean that in a clinical sense. 0.99

00:42:03.000 I just mean that I look at him and, um, what?

00:42:05.000 So, and I don't think that I'm out of bounds in saying this, right?

00:42:07.000 I mean, if you spend any time listening to Alex Jones, this is not somebody who seems like all the, all of the lights are on in the attic, shall we say.

00:42:16.000 Well, Alex Jones got very angry at me for saying that Kanye West should not do his show because it would be a bad move for Kanye West.

00:42:21.000 Okay, Kanye right now is trying to do the whole, let's have a reasonable conversation with reasonable people, let's all get together.

00:42:27.000 Why would he want to fringe himself out by going on Alex Jones' show?

00:42:29.000 Now, there are people who say, well, what Kanye West is really arguing is that every argument should be let in the front door.

00:42:33.000 Everybody should have a conversation.

00:42:35.000 Okay, I don't think that's what Kanye West is arguing.

00:42:37.000 Maybe he is.

00:42:38.000 Maybe he is.

00:42:38.000 If so, then he should make that clearer.

00:42:41.000 I also think that Kanye West would easily be seen as a guy who had fringed himself out the minute that he went on Alex Jones.

00:42:46.000 So if his goal is to open doors, I think he closed his doors by doing Alex Jones' show.

00:42:50.000 That was my basic argument.

00:42:51.000 It's the reason why I would never do Alex Jones' show, because I think that Alex Jones, again, is a kook and a fringe fellow. 0.99

00:42:57.000 This is not a newfound belief.

00:42:58.000 Go back to my interview with Piers Morgan back in 2012.

00:43:00.000 It came right after Alex Jones had done an interview with Piers Morgan.

00:43:03.000 And one of the first things Piers Morgan tries to do is lump me in with Alex Jones.

00:43:06.000 And I say, I'm not Alex Jones, nor do I agree with Alex Jones on many things.

00:43:10.000 Okay, so, this drove Alex to a distraction yesterday, apparently, on his show.

00:43:14.000 I was hearing about this.

00:43:15.000 And he did an impression of me on his show.

00:43:19.000 All I can say is, spot on, dude.

00:43:20.000 Just spot on.

00:43:21.000 I mean, just eerily, eerily good.

00:43:24.000 Here is Alex Jones doing his Ben Shapiro impersonation.

00:43:27.000 I'm Shapiro, and I'm very smart.

00:43:29.000 I measure my words very carefully.

00:43:30.000 So, you went down to the border.

00:43:32.000 You're not Ben Shapiro, Millie Weaver.

00:43:34.000 What'd you do, huh?

00:43:35.000 Everyone who's listening right now, please, please share the video.

00:43:39.000 Get the word out there.

00:43:40.000 People need... And so, a bunch of people are now jumping onto the caravan, and you're gonna have more and more and more people showing up at the border, trying to fraudulently gain entrance into the United... Bye-bye, Ben Shapiro.

00:43:52.000 Bye-bye.

00:43:53.000 Can I go potty during the break?

00:43:55.000 My God, it's like looking in a mirror.

00:43:57.000 I mean, just like the impersonation is so spot on.

00:43:59.000 Wow.

00:44:00.000 Wow.

00:44:01.000 I mean, listen, I'm as critical of myself as the next guy, right?

00:44:05.000 I will say that I have the second most annoying voice in America after Michelle Wolf, but I really don't think that's a very good impersonation by Alex.

00:44:10.000 I feel like Alex can do better.

00:44:11.000 Alex, I think you need to up your game a little bit.

00:44:14.000 I mean, I'm not one to talk about my impersonation skills, but I will say that my Alex Jones is significantly better than Alex Jones' Ben Shapiro.

00:44:20.000 So here's a flashback.

00:44:22.000 This episode, what, was two years ago, maybe?

00:44:24.000 And here's me doing my Alex Jones impersonation a couple of years ago.

00:44:28.000 This guy, by the way, is considered a leading Trump ally, Alex Jones.

00:44:32.000 I don't know why!

00:44:33.000 I can't understand it!

00:44:35.000 Look at this!

00:44:36.000 Look what's underneath here!

00:44:37.000 It's another shirt!

00:44:39.000 Why?!

00:44:40.000 Why?!

00:44:40.000 Because I don't want to go to the cleaners that often, that's why.

00:44:44.000 Come on.

00:44:44.000 Okay, so...

00:44:47.000 So, by the way, the best Alex Jones impersonation is actually Joe Rogan.

00:44:50.000 Joe Rogan does a fantastic Alex Jones impersonation.

00:44:52.000 But, you know, all of this is crazy and just another evidence that we are living in an alternative universe constructed by aliens in order to torture us.

00:45:01.000 So, I don't know why any of this is happening, but I both love and hate it because it's really funny.

00:45:05.000 Okay, final thing that I hate.

00:45:06.000 So,

00:45:07.000 The New York Times has an editorial today saying Mahmoud Abbas has to go.

00:45:10.000 Mahmoud Abbas, of course, is the leader of the Palestinian Authority.

00:45:13.000 He is now in his 14th year of a four-year term.

00:45:16.000 So he's a dictator.

00:45:16.000 He was elected, I believe, back in 2004, and he's been there ever since.

00:45:20.000 He made a speech the other day in which he suggested the Holocaust was the fault of the Juden, which is not a shock because Mahmoud Abbas is a lifelong anti-Semite.

00:45:28.000 Which is also not a shock, because the Palestinian Authority is an organization that is anti-semitically devoted to the destruction of the Jewish state and the murder of Jews.

00:45:35.000 Which is also not a surprise, because this has been a program among Palestinian leadership for as long as there has been a Palestinian leadership.

00:45:42.000 So that is not really a shocker.

00:45:43.000 What's hilarious is the New York Times coming out and saying, Abbas has to go, because he's really brought shame upon the Palestinian leadership.

00:45:48.000 Oh, you mean their grand legacy of people like Yasser Arafat?

00:45:51.000 You mean the grand legacy of Hamas being the government in charge of the Gaza Strip?

00:45:55.000 Yeah, like, I agree, Mahmoud Abbas is a poop show, but I am not sure why that is any different than the leadership of the Palestinian Authority over its entire history, nor why Israel should be making concessions to a group of terrorists who lead a purported government.

00:46:10.000 Alrighty, so, we'll be back here tomorrow with all of the legal updates and all the rest.

00:46:13.000 I'm Ben Shapiro, this is The Ben Shapiro Show.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - May 03, 2018

Stormy Weather | Ep. 531

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