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00:00:39.000People focusing in on Trump's sort of John Belushi-esque rantings from Animal House about medical solutions because he sort of understands it and he sort of doesn't.
00:00:51.000That is not where people should be putting their focus right now.
00:00:53.000How about putting our focus on the fact that our food supply chains are in a bit of trouble?
00:00:57.000I mean, the fact is that farmers are plowing under crop because they can't make money from selling that crop at a time when food shortages would probably mean riots in the streets.
00:01:06.000Restaurants, which were providing a huge market for all of our agriculture, Those restaurants are going under at incredibly rapid rates.
00:01:13.000That means that you're probably going to be seeing more expensive products on a shelf at a time when people have less money to spend.
00:01:18.000That's something we should think about.
00:01:19.000We should be thinking about, how are we supposed to reopen in an environment in which the data are so uncertain?
00:01:24.000And we'll talk about that in a little bit.
00:01:27.000What the media are focused on is continuing to be the gotcha game of President Trump said something dumb at a press conference.
00:01:33.000And Okay, I mean, all right, I suppose.
00:01:36.000But if you really believe that that is of vital importance, then you're out of your mind.
00:01:41.000And this is the same media that suggested that President Trump, by recommending hydroxychloroquine as a possible treatment for COVID-19, that he forced a woman to feed her husband fish tank cleaner, and then the guy died.
00:01:53.000And the media are like, that's Trump's fault, which is a pretty fantastic way of creating an alibi for murdering your husband.
00:01:59.000Not saying she murdered her husband, but if you were going to murder your husband and then have the media establish an alibi, would there be a better way to do it?
00:02:04.000Like the Carole Baskin of fish tank cleaner over here.
00:02:08.000Let's start with actual news and then we'll get to all of the pseudo-controversy today over President Trump and Clorox and whether you can ingest sunlight, whether you can actually just eat a ball of sunlight and it will actually fix everything.
00:02:20.000We've now reached the stupid part, right?
00:02:22.000It always takes a little while for serious stories to become incredibly stupid.
00:02:26.000It took us about five weeks, really, for an incredibly serious story to turn into just full-scale utter stupidity.
00:02:46.000I mean, seriously, no one seems to know what the hell is going on with this thing.
00:02:50.000I say this because there's an article out today suggesting that two-thirds of seriously ill COVID-19 patients didn't even have a fever, like at all, like did not have a fever.
00:03:02.000So you've been told that you're going to have a fever for like a week if you get COVID-19, and that is one of the first symptoms we should look out for.
00:03:06.000We should be doing temperature tests at the doors of our major businesses.
00:03:10.000And it turns out that, you know, that, hmm.
00:03:13.000According to ABC News, a new study is presenting surprising findings about COVID-19 and which factors play the biggest role in how severe the disease is for some people.
00:03:21.000With New York being the epicenter for the virus in the United States, researchers from the state's largest healthcare system quickly moved to document findings that would help identify others and treat COVID-19 patients.
00:03:31.000One thing stood out in the study published in the Journal of American Medicine.
00:03:34.000A senior researcher, Karina Davidson, she says, the most surprising finding was two-thirds of the patients who were seriously ill with an active infection did not actually have a fever.
00:03:43.000Okay, well, so do we know anything about this virus?
00:03:46.000It's not clear to me that we know all that much more than we started with.
00:03:51.000There are certain things we know more about.
00:03:52.000We know that the death rate is not three or four percent.
00:03:55.000Another story from yesterday is that New York has finally tested for antibodies, and what they found is that about one-fifth of people in New York City already have antibodies for COVID-19.
00:04:03.000Now, that's good news in the sense it means the actual death rate from COVID-19 in New York City is 0.6.
00:04:08.0000.6 of 8%, which is a lot lower than 3 or 4%.
00:04:11.000It still means about six times as deadly as the flu and spreads three times more than the flu.
00:04:15.000If you were to reach herd immunity in New York City, New York City's experienced about 11,000 deaths.
00:04:19.000If you were to reach herd immunity in New York City, which is about 60% of the population at a baseline, you need to be immune to a disease to create herd immunity.
00:04:29.000To get there, presumably if you just apply the same rates, you'd have to have about 35,000 people dead in New York City.
00:04:35.000In a given year, you have about 53,000 people who die in New York City.
00:04:37.000So you'd have to increase their death rates by nearly double, right?
00:04:41.000You'd have to increase it by 80% in order to get to herd immunity.
00:05:29.000It means these are people who were infected and who developed the antibodies to fight the infection.
00:05:38.00013% of the population is about 2.7 million people who have been infected.
00:05:43.000If you look at what we have now as a death total, which is 15,500, that would be about 0.5% death rate.
00:05:54.000Okay, that is a lot lower than people thought, right?
00:05:58.000They were saying three to four percent.
00:06:00.000In New York City, if you just took the number of actual diagnosed cases as the denominator, and you took the actual number of deaths as a numerator, it was looking at like 11 or 12 percent.
00:06:13.000I mean, the good news is if you get this thing, only six out of a thousand people who get this thing are going to die.
00:06:18.000Those six out of a thousand people are likely to be people who are in their late In their late 70s, in their 80s.
00:06:26.000The average age of death in New York City I believe is around 63 right now, but virtually everybody who has died from this thing has a couple of different pre-existing conditions.
00:06:32.000That doesn't mean it's safe for everybody else.
00:06:34.000I mean, I know personally at least one person who did not have pre-existing conditions about 60 years old and died of this thing.
00:06:39.000And I think a lot of people who have friends in New York City know people or at least know of people who have died from this thing without pre-existing conditions just because so many people have died of this.
00:06:47.000I mean, we're approaching 46,000 people dying in five weeks across the United States during an incredible lockdown the likes of which we've never seen in our lifetime.
00:06:53.000This thing is still very dangerous because even if it is only five times as deadly as the flu, if it spreads three times as quickly as the flu, then if you just took the flu's raw statistics and say the flu kills 50,000 people, you'd have to multiply that by a factor of three.
00:07:08.000In order to get to the death, in order to get to the case fatality rate, and then you'd have to multiply it again by a factor of three, because it spreads three times as quickly among three times as many people in the population, presumably if left unchecked.
00:07:19.000So you'd have to multiply it by a factor of, if it's 0.5 to 0.1, you'd have to multiply it by a factor of 15.
00:07:25.000So you're ending up with over half a million deaths easily from this thing, if there's no mitigation, if people do not put on masks.
00:07:32.000Now people will put on masks, people will socially distance.
00:07:35.000I have faith in the American people that they will do this.
00:07:38.000Again, the good news is it's less deadly than thought.
00:07:39.000The bad news is it's so widespread and so asymptomatic that the notion that we're ever going to be able to test to the extent that people are just going to be taken out of the population if they have it generally is not true.
00:07:49.000You're going to be able to see a major spike if the testing is in place.
00:07:53.000And that's why you've seen people like Scott Gottlieb at the FDA suggest 300,000 tests a day would be necessary because that way you can at least have sort of a sample size test in particular areas of New York City.
00:08:03.000It'd be heavily located in major urban areas.
00:08:05.000You'd be able to see where the thing is spiking and then maybe do some contact tracing.
00:08:09.000Although contact tracing in a city like New York is going to be nearly impossible.
00:08:11.000I have no idea how you contact trace in the subway system.
00:08:28.000The app would immediately notify you if you were within a particular area of somebody because it's tracing you via your phone.
00:08:34.000I think a lot of people would have privacy concerns about that.
00:08:37.000But even beyond that, It's gonna be very difficult to get people not to infect each other if they are in close proximity, which is why the subway system has been one of the chief problems here.
00:08:45.000So, the antibody test has some good news and it has some bad news.
00:08:48.000In other relevant information, it looks like there is another experimental drug that is being put out there now.
00:08:55.000I wouldn't say completely dismissed, but certainly a lot of people are very skeptical of hydroxychloroquine based on the studies that are out there not showing tremendous upside.
00:09:03.000There was a study that was put out by China on remdesivir, which is that drug that was put out by Gilead Sciences.
00:09:08.000The study was not good, and in fact the enrollment was so low they had to cancel the study.
00:09:12.000It was published preliminarily without peer review in Lancet, and then it was immediately taken down.
00:09:16.000So we still don't know the results from that, but people have sort of Taking the early indicators is maybe it's not quite the cure-all that people were thinking it was.
00:09:25.000I'm gonna talk about that with you in just one second.
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00:10:37.000Okay, so there are several drugs that are in the pipeline and are moving through the FDA approval process and through testing phase.
00:10:44.000Drug maker Eli Lilly, according to the Wall Street Journal, said it expects to begin human testing as soon as next month for an experimental COVID-19 treatment that uses antibodies derived from the blood of people who have recovered from the viral disease.
00:10:55.000The testing could yield results by late summer if successful, potential emergency authorization by the FDA by early fall.
00:11:00.000So maybe a couple of months from now, a few months from now, this could reduce the viral load in people either about to get sick or who are sick or even hospitalized.
00:11:08.000And that would really help knock down that second wave that everybody is afraid of in the fall.
00:11:22.000And in fact, each other willy-nilly since nothing is really going to change.
00:11:24.000And the answer is something is going to change.
00:11:27.000One of the things that is going to change is that when you have the entire medical establishment on one disease, presumably they will come up with some sort of therapeutic treatments that help knock that down.
00:11:36.000Now, some of the other things that are going to change, we're going to have to protect our nursing homes a hell of a lot better.
00:11:40.000Our nursing homes have been the source of an enormous percentage of death in the United States.
00:11:56.000Because they really don't have testing capacity at a lot of these nursing homes.
00:11:59.000And because one person bringing in from the outside can lead to a raging wildfire inside the nursing home of COVID-19.
00:12:06.000Michael Goodwin has a piece over at the New York Post talking about Andrew Cuomo's nursing home policy.
00:12:11.000He talks about how the Cuomo policy basically was nothing.
00:12:17.000They didn't have a real policy for nursing homes.
00:12:20.000He says, The letter was heartbreaking as it recounted the death of an 88-year-old woman in a New York nursing home who was also angry and accurate about a strange New York policy that is fatally wrongheaded.
00:12:27.000According to the letter, I'm wondering who will hold Governor Cuomo accountable for the deaths of so many older people due to his reckless decision to place COVID-19 patients in nursing and rehabilitation homes.
00:12:37.000I'm writing as a daughter who lost her beautiful 88-year-old mother, who is receiving physical therapy at one such facility.
00:12:42.000The writer, Arlene Mullen, went on to recount examples of the governor promising to protect the elderly because of their known vulnerability.
00:12:47.000She noted he named his stay-at-home order after his own mother and talked several times about protecting her.
00:12:53.000Your mother is not expendable, Cuomo said a month ago.
00:12:55.000Mullen had another complaint, that the media never even bothered asking the governor about an order mandating that nursing homes admit and readmit patients who tested positive for the coronavirus despite the extraordinary number of deaths among the elderly.
00:13:07.000He was asked about this by the post-Bernadette Hogan at his daily briefing yesterday.
00:13:13.000And then he turns to the state health commissioner who confirmed the policy saying, if you are positive, you should be admitted back to a nursing home.
00:13:19.000The necessary precautions will be taken to protect the other residents there.
00:13:21.000I mean, that's a crazy policy, obviously.
00:13:23.000The state already concedes that almost 3,500 residents of nursing home or adult care facilities are known to have died from coronavirus, or nearly 25% of all deaths in New York.
00:13:34.000More than 2,000 of the total are in the five boroughs.
00:13:36.000So we're going to have to get better at protecting the elderly.
00:13:38.000And we are going to get better at this stuff.
00:13:40.000So I don't think that the death rate is going to be the same as it has been prior.
00:13:45.000I don't think the infection rate is going to be the same as it has been prior.
00:13:46.000When we say that the death rate in New York City is 0.5 or 0.6%, that is the death rate.
00:13:52.000But the infection rate is really the problem in New York City.
00:13:55.000That infection rate is not going to be mimicked all over the country.
00:13:57.000New York is a uniquely bad place for infection because everybody is in close contact in closed areas.
00:14:03.000And so it's important to keep that in mind when we talk about treating different areas differently.
00:14:07.000And we should be treating different areas differently.
00:14:09.000When Dr. Anthony Fauci suggests that he is not overly confident with COVID-19 testing capabilities, that makes a hell of a lot more difference in New York City than it makes in rural Georgia, for example.
00:14:20.000Absolutely need to significantly ramp up.
00:14:26.000Not only the number of tests, but the capacity to actually perform them.
00:14:32.000So that you don't have a situation where you have a test, but it can't be done because there's not a swab, or not an extraction media, or not the right vial.
00:14:43.000All of those things got to be in place.
00:14:45.000I am not overly confident right now at all that we have what it takes to do that.
00:14:53.000Okay, well, he's right about that, but the question is what the testing is going to accomplish when 20% of New York City had this thing without anybody knowing about it.
00:15:01.000Again, the question is, how much testing and to what end?
00:15:04.000And public policy officials are not really being clear in what they intend from this, which is why there's so much confusion about reopening.
00:15:09.000Now, we're going to get to the confusion about reopening in just one second.
00:15:12.000We're going to get to that in a few minutes.
00:15:14.000But we have to discuss, obviously, the big story of the day, which is everybody is mad at President Trump because President Trump, it turns out, is President Trump and says things.
00:15:21.000And as I've said many times on his epitaph, it will say, Donald Trump, 45th president of the United States, he said a lot of bleep, right?
00:15:27.000That's, that'd be the nice version of the epitaph.
00:15:34.000Again, I like a lot of the stuff he's done as president.
00:15:35.000I think that he's handled the coronavirus situation in terms of policy actually really, really well.
00:15:40.000It's just that it ain't great when you're rambling on about sunlight and eating it.
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00:17:10.000So, this all sort of turned bad yesterday at the White House after the head of the DHS or a spokesperson for the DHS named Phil Bryant got up and he explained some good news.
00:17:21.000The good news, he said, is that sunlight and heat may in fact kill the virus.
00:17:24.000So we had heard a study earlier this week from France in which somebody in a lab turned up the heat really high on the virus and the virus didn't die.
00:17:32.000But now, apparently, William Bryant, the Undersecretary for Science over at the DHS, he says, well, actually, we have some good information that sunlight and heat may help kill the virus.
00:17:41.000Now, by the way, this does show how stupid it was to lock down parks.
00:17:45.000How stupid it was to tell people to shelter in their homes as opposed to being out in public, not near other people.
00:17:51.000It is a good thing to be at parks on beaches.
00:17:53.000It is a good thing to be away from other people, but in the sunlight.
00:18:14.000Our most striking observation to date is the powerful effect that solar light appears to have on killing the virus, both surfaces and in the air.
00:18:23.000We've seen a similar effect with both temperature and humidity as well, where increasing the temperature and humidity or both is generally less favorable to the virus.
00:18:31.000As the temperature increases, As the humidity increases, with no sun involved, you can see how drastically the half-life goes down on that virus.
00:18:40.000So the virus is dying at a much more rapid pace just from exposure to higher temperatures and just from exposure to humidity.
00:18:46.000So they're saying that 70 to 75 degrees with 20 percent humidity during the summer with with sunlight, right?
00:18:56.000That means that aerosolized saliva droplets, right?
00:18:59.000You breathe, you talk, you sneeze in the air.
00:19:02.000The half-life on that is gonna be about 1.5 minutes, which is a lot better than people have been suggesting, that this stuff was gonna sit around in the air for three hours, four hours, that basically could be walking around and just walk right into a cloud of the virus without even knowing about it.
00:19:16.000And it does suggest, by the way, that when we do reopen businesses, people should be trying to do business outdoors as much as humanly possible.
00:19:22.000Maybe we can have barber shops that are actually doing haircuts outdoors.
00:19:26.000Maybe if you're going to go to a restaurant, instead of just seating people inside the restaurant, if you've got a parking lot, put some tables out there in the parking lot and socially distance the tables, and you're a lot better off than you are inside the restaurant.
00:19:37.000There are things that this allows business to do.
00:19:40.000And it's possible that if we just tamp this thing down for a few months, that gives the medical profession a chance to come up with new solutions by the time we come back.
00:20:38.000The way he says it, if you don't know what he means, there's no way not to read this as he's telling you that you should actually take Clorox and just go right into the... Or that you should take a ball of sunlight and just down it.
00:20:49.000Or that you should take a light bulb and shine it up your nose or something.
00:20:53.000It's a very bizarre statement that he makes here.
00:20:55.000And the media, of course, jump all over this.
00:20:57.000Now, as I say, is this an important story?
00:21:12.000So Joe Biden could have said exactly the same thing and the media would have just ignored it and then made excuses for it.
00:21:17.000For Trump, they won't do the same thing.
00:21:20.000That's just the reality of the situation, which is why Trump, just as a matter of self-preservation politically, should be a lot more careful about the stuff that falls out of his face.
00:21:27.000But here is President Trump making the comments that set a thousand ships ablaze.
00:21:31.000Supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way.
00:21:39.000And I think you said you're going to test that too.
00:22:40.000I'll give you what he actually meant in a second and you'll see he sort of tries to clarify it even in the middle of this press conference and the media lose their minds over all of this.
00:22:47.000I will say that the reaction shot of Dr. Birx in this is pretty stellar.
00:22:52.000I mean, it's directly from Arrested Development.
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00:24:13.000Deborah Birx, the cutaway shot to her from the other angle while Trump is riffing about whether we can inject disinfectant and whether we can put sunlight inside the body in some way is pretty stellar.
00:24:26.000Dr. Birx, who's been on our Sunday special, and she's got a rough job.
00:24:29.000I mean, if you are in the Trump administration, you have to balance, let's get good things done and also let's not piss off Trump, right?
00:25:03.000And the guy's not going to answer a straight question as to whether we are going to test if you can actually just swallow a UV light bulb or something.
00:25:13.000So what exactly is Trump actually talking about?
00:25:16.000Well, Jim Carrey has a good piece over at National Review.
00:25:18.000He says that Columbia University's Center for Radiological Research developed lighting that uses far UVC that can kill viruses and bacteria without harming human skin, eyes, and other tissues, as is the problem with conventional ultraviolet light.
00:25:30.000You could put that lighting in public places and you could mitigate airborne viruses that way, but it's not going to get in your lungs or the rest of your body.
00:25:36.000It's not going to be put under the skin or anything.
00:25:39.000And when the president is talking about how sunlight, maybe that could be ingested.
00:25:44.000Again, that is a botched and odd read of when you go out in sunlight, you have higher vitamin D production in your body.
00:25:51.000Vitamin D production in your body is helpful to your immune system.
00:25:54.000It helps prevent infection or reduce the risk of infection.
00:25:59.000But the media are obviously jumping on this to suggest that President Trump is a dunderhead.
00:26:03.000This is their real agenda here, right?
00:26:04.000They're very concerned with President Trump being a dunderhead.
00:26:07.000You'll even hear Trump correct his own comments in the middle of this because Trump understands he doesn't really know what he's talking about here.
00:26:13.000Trump has never admitted he doesn't know what he's talking about, ever.
00:26:15.000He knows the most about everything from the Afghan lemur to the airspeed of a flying British swallow.
00:26:25.000If you ask Trump what he knows about a thing?
00:26:27.000I know everything there is to know about it.
00:28:21.000He's saying you're going to be safer from the virus in the heat outside than you will be in your home in air conditioning in a small area, which is of course true.
00:28:27.000And here is Trump basically pointing this out.
00:28:30.000Is it dangerous for you to make people think they would be safe by going outside in the heat, considering that so many people are dying in Florida, considering that this virus has had an outbreak in Singapore, places that are hot and are humid?
00:29:09.000That being outside, there was a study from China.
00:29:11.000It found that a grand total of two, count them, two coronavirus cases were diagnosed from people who are actually outside talking with each other.
00:29:19.000And they were in close contact outside.
00:29:21.000If you are far away from other people outside, it is better to do that than it is to be inside locked in with other people.
00:29:32.000If you are far away from other people and in sunlight, that is better than being inside in recirculated air.
00:29:36.000This is why subway systems are really bad for this sort of thing.
00:29:39.000To pretend that it's dangerous for Trump to say this is fully idiotic, and you can see the narrative forming in real time.
00:29:44.000Now, the broader narrative is not just that Trump is incompetent and terrible and really a bad, bad person and all this.
00:29:48.000The broader narrative is that Republicans are anti-science.
00:29:51.000And there's two broader narratives that members of the Democratic Party and the media, but I repeat myself, are trying to push.
00:29:59.000One is Republicans hate science, and the other is that Republicans hate human life.
00:30:04.000And both of those are absolute, utter bullcrap.
00:30:07.000Republicans don't hate science and they don't hate human life.
00:30:10.000In fact, many of us are trying to look hard at the science and figure out what the risks and rewards are.
00:30:15.000What Democrats are trying to do now is create this binary where if you are in favor of removal of lockdown in gradual and responsible fashion, this makes you an anti-vaccine activist, or this makes you somebody who is in favor of people just infecting each other willy-nilly.
00:30:29.000Of course, this plays into pre-existing stereotypes that the media have been trying to create for a long time, which is that if you are on the right, then this is because you are a climate change denier, and because you're evil and you deny science, and you don't care about old people dying, and you don't care about poor people dying, right?
00:30:41.000This is all their pre-existing narratives.
00:30:42.000They're now just trying to shoehorn coronavirus into it, and it doesn't fit.
00:30:46.000I mean, this is the stepsister trying to put on Cinderella's shoe.
00:31:15.000RockAuto.com is a family business serving auto parts customers online for 20 years.
00:31:19.000RockAuto.com always offers the lowest prices possible rather than changing prices based on what the market will bear, like airlines do.
00:31:25.000Why would you spend up to twice as much for the same part when you could just get it at RockAuto.com and then it'll come to you in the mail?
00:31:30.000Best of all, prices at RockAuto.com are reliably low, the same for professionals and do-it-yourselfers.
00:31:34.000Why would you spend up to twice as much money for the same parts?
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00:33:20.000I want to give a shout out to a Daily Wire subscriber.
00:33:22.000Today, it's Kyle Trepanier on Instagram.
00:33:24.000Who's out there on the front lines doing his part to fight the global pandemic.
00:33:27.000In this picture, Kyle and two of his comrades are opening, are operating a testing checkpoint, dressed in their military fatigues, protective rubber gloves, face shields, and best of all, proudly brandishing their elite beverage vessels.
00:34:01.000Not just members of the military doing an incredible job, all of our medical professionals.
00:34:03.000If you see somebody who's delivering packages today, thank them.
00:34:06.000Seriously, like if an Amazon driver stops by your house, give them a big thank you because those are the people who are continuing to keep the country running.
00:34:53.000But they're trying to turn this into a broader Republicans don't respect science narrative, which is patently not true, particularly when it comes to coronavirus.
00:35:02.000It is also true that people on the left have been really denying science all the way throughout the coronavirus pandemic.
00:35:08.000For example, trotting out the false case fatality rates to inflate the statistics on this thing.
00:35:13.000Like we knew those were wrong from the very beginning.
00:35:15.000We know there was no way that those were right.
00:35:17.000They're being trotted out by the media consistently as though those were the right infection fatality and case fatality rates.
00:35:22.000I mean, we kept hearing over and over and over that the who, to doubt the who, was to be terrible.
00:35:27.000We kept hearing that if you said that it was not a 3.4% death rate from coronavirus, that it was actually under 1%, this is because you were some sort of science denier.
00:35:35.000No, it turns out that you were the science denier.
00:35:37.000And it's not as though that was speculative.
00:35:39.000Everybody knew early on that there were a huge number of asymptomatic cases.
00:35:43.000When people were suggesting that flattening the curve was going to alleviate the virus completely, or that testing is going to be a cure-all, that is bad science.
00:35:51.000I have now asked The surgeon, the former Surgeon General of the United States, professors from Stanford, the head of Johns Hopkins epidemiology department, the head of the UCSF medicine department.
00:36:04.000I've asked a number of people who know far better than I what testing is designed to do.
00:36:08.000It is not designed to knock the virus completely out of the US population.
00:36:57.000Here's John Kerry being a science-y science man.
00:37:02.000Most challenging, perhaps of all, getting beyond the pandemic of coronavirus, is climate crisis.
00:37:10.000And the climate crisis could not be more real.
00:37:15.000Um, even if you take the climate situation incredibly seriously, to suggest that it is a bigger threat than coronavirus, um, yeah, gonna go no on that one.
00:37:26.000Gradual change in the climate over the course of the next hundred years is not as much of an issue as the complete breakdown of the world economy, mass unemployment, and hundreds of thousands if not millions of people dead like in the next five months.
00:37:40.000Meanwhile, speaking of science denial, I'm constantly amused that Chris Cuomo is going on TV and talking about how people are not socially distancing and how terrible it is when we now know that he broke his own quarantine to go to his second property and he was yelling at a biker outside his house.
00:37:55.000Also, just going to point out that this is an actual real thing.
00:38:22.000She says, I decided to go on the course I set for Chris of oxygenated herbs.
00:38:27.000I enlisted Dr. Linda Lancaster, who put us on a path of natural remedies to build our immune systems, and it's working for us.
00:38:35.000I'm sharing this, but this isn't a debate.
00:38:37.000If you think these are far-fetched treatments, think again!
00:38:39.000I went through tons of antibiotics for Lyme disease this past year, which did not help eradicate the Lyme.
00:38:44.000Only when I took a natural course did I get better.
00:38:46.000I'm applying that information to the virus because I believe in natural medicine, which by the way, one of my favorite memes online is the, there's a meme online that shows folders on a computer and it shows, it says science, natural medicine, Next folder that you open up is evidence, and then empty.
00:39:03.000Because natural medicine, not tons of evidence to support it, as it turns out.
00:39:08.000She says, we're all trying to find tools to help beat this.
00:39:10.000I'm grateful I have the ability to research and educate myself on natural remedies.
00:39:15.000And then she talks about all the things that she did.
00:39:19.000She talks about resonance breathing and pranayama, helping to expand the lungs.
00:39:23.000And then she talked about vitamins, herbs, and minerals.
00:39:28.000She talked about three Synex daily, three antivirals daily, three Caparest daily, three OXO, non-toxic quinine, daily.
00:39:35.000And then she made a liver-cleansing beverage with one raw garlic clove, one orange, one lemon, a tablespoon of cayenne pepper, a spoonful of olive oil, a crunch of ginger, and a piece of turmeric.
00:39:43.000And then she made a big batch of this stuff.
00:39:46.000Also, she suggested that she was going to bathe in bleach At the direction of my doctor, Dr. Linda Lancaster, who reminded me that this is an oxygen-depleting virus, she suggested I take a bath and add a nominal amount of bleach.
00:40:22.000She also used a machine, a body charger, which energy specialist Randy Oppit suggested I borrow from a friend.
00:40:27.000It sends electrical frequencies through my body to oxygenate my blood and stimulate the healthy production of blood cells to fortify my immune system.
00:40:45.000Again, this is not to suggest that she is on the same level as the President of the United States when he just completely botches the science after having heard it and then he spits it out wrong.
00:40:52.000But, can we stop pretending that, like, failures of science exist only on one side of the aisle for political purposes?
00:41:00.000The other thing that people are citing is this idea that Republicans are just not taking seriously the threat to human life.
00:41:04.000Again, they're trying to combine, on the left, this idea that Republicans are anti-science and the idea that Republicans are anti-life, and it is a stretch.
00:41:11.000So, for example, over at Mediaite, Tommy Christopher, who is, you know, a very hardcore Democrat, He says 40% of Republicans say the threat from coronavirus has been exaggerated.
00:41:22.000A drastic difference from the rest of Americans polled.
00:41:24.000A Yahoo News YouGov poll published Thursday found stark partisan divides on a number of key questions related to public health and the state of COVID-19.
00:41:31.00040% of Republicans said that the threat of COVID-19 was exaggerated.
00:41:36.000According to Democrats, only 25% said, sorry, 11% of Democrats said that the threat of COVID-19 was exaggerated.
00:41:44.000Said the threat of COVID-19 was exaggerated.
00:41:47.000Now, it depends what you mean by exaggerated.
00:41:49.000If you mean that it's not a threat at all, then of course you're wrong.
00:41:52.000If you mean that people were saying for literally months here that the threat of COVID-19 was so bad that you were going to randomly walk down the street, obtain it, and now your chances of dying were 10%, then yeah, that was exaggerated.
00:42:03.000I mean, if you're talking about the actual statistical threat to young people right now in the United States, there's no question that the media's anecdotal coverage of this sort of stuff has created an exaggerated perception of the threat of the disease.
00:42:15.000Things can be serious and also exaggerated.
00:42:17.000Or you can say that the Beatles are a good band and also overrated.
00:42:21.000You can say that things are bad, but also the threat has been exaggerated of those things.
00:42:26.000And it is true that the media have exaggerated the threat to your specific human life from COVID-19 unless you are elderly or have pre-existing conditions.
00:42:35.000I mean, that is what all the data suggests.
00:42:36.000To suggest somehow that Republicans, who are more skeptical of the media than others, are simply taking the science to not seriously enough is to ignore the fact that the media have done a horrible job on this stuff, a really horrible job.
00:42:47.000And now this is being conflated with if you are in favor of ending lockdowns, if you're in favor of moving beyond lockdowns, this is because you don't care enough about human life.
00:42:56.000There's an entire article over at the Los Angeles Times trying to tie together anti-vaccine activists and coronavirus protesters.
00:43:04.000The vast majority of people who want to see these lockdowns ended and people given the freedom to make their own risk assessments, the vast majority of those people are not people who deny the efficacy of vaccines or stump against vaccines.
00:43:16.000You're gonna be hard-pressed to find anybody on the right who's more pro-vaccine than I am.
00:43:19.000I've come out in favor in California of vaccine mandates if you're gonna go to a public school for communicable diseases that you can pass on to other people and no religious exemptions for it.
00:43:31.000I've come out in favor of that because that is a threat to other people.
00:43:34.000A generic policy that suggests that you should not be able to pass on a grave disease to somebody with leukemia or cancer or to a small child or to a pregnant mother.
00:43:46.000I've done entire episodes of this podcast, actually, in which I go through all the details about vaccines to suggest that I am anti-vaccine because I also think that the government is, without data now, moving into an era where they are not actually making good policy decisions.
00:44:07.000And I think that's true for most of the people who are saying we need to go back to work and tranche people back in responsibly.
00:44:11.000Again, the key word there is responsibly.
00:44:14.000There are some people, I'm not gonna deny it, there are some people who are like, okay, this is not really a threat, we should just go out and willy-nilly do what we want.
00:44:19.000I don't think that that is even close to the majority of people who are in favor of moving beyond the lockdowns.
00:44:24.000The fact is, the lockdowns were established to achieve a goal.
00:44:27.000The goal was to prevent the overwhelming of our hospital system.
00:44:32.000The lockdowns were never going to prevent widespread infection of the disease.
00:44:36.000Not unless you lock down forever, which is not palatable and nobody's gonna do it.
00:44:39.000I mean, we already see our food supplies dwindling.
00:44:41.000We see the food supply lines that are actually threatened right now.
00:44:44.000So, barring that, we are all going to go back to work, and the question is going to be under what conditions we do.
00:44:50.000As I've said now for, I think, several weeks, we're all going to end up doing what Sweden did.
00:44:54.000The only question is when we should start doing what Sweden did, and what level of testing is necessary in order to do the hotspot testing and tracing.
00:45:01.000And when I say we all agree on this, you want to talk about how things have become incredibly partisan?
00:45:07.000All you have to do is look at the coverage of Georgia.
00:45:09.000So in Colorado, they've basically done the same thing that they are talking about doing in Georgia.
00:45:14.000Jared Polis talks about opening businesses in Colorado, and nobody seems to care because he is not a Democrat.
00:45:21.000Meanwhile, the conditions under which businesses can actually reopen in Georgia, it turns out they're actually fairly strict.
00:45:27.000It is not as though you can just reopen willy-nilly.
00:45:31.000Governor Kemp's executive order in Georgia, this is just, again, it's media malfeasance designed to target Republicans in order to generate a narrative, a narrative that has a headline that looks like this one from Timothy Egan, moron over at the New York Times.
00:45:42.000How Republicans became the party of death.
00:45:50.000This is about coming up with a public policy that saves the most lives possible while also not destroying the most lives possible.
00:45:57.000Lives can be destroyed without killing people, as it turns out.
00:45:59.000And it turns out that a lot of lives do end precipitously when you have Great Depressions.
00:46:04.000But this is all, this is the narrative.
00:46:06.000Okay, but take Georgia as a perfect example.
00:46:08.000So I'm looking right now at a document from Governor Kemp about which entities can engage in minimum basic operations.
00:46:14.000So he says the gyms, fitness centers, bowling alleys, body art studios, barbers, cosmetologists, hair designers, nail care artists, aestheticians, all of these can begin engaging in minimum basic operations April 24th, 2020.
00:46:25.000This means these businesses can open to the public on a limited basis subject to restrictions.
00:46:37.000The minimum necessary activities to maintain the value of a business, establishment, corporation, non-profit, corporation, or organization.
00:46:43.000They have to provide services, manage inventory, ensure security, process payroll and employee benefits, etc.
00:46:51.000They have to be able to allow people to work remotely and instant.
00:46:56.000And they want to allow people to work outdoors because outdoors is a lot safer.
00:46:59.000Here is what they have to do as businesses.
00:47:01.000One, they have to screen and evaluate workers who exhibit signs of illness, such as a fever over 100.4 degrees Fahrenheit, cough or shortness of breath.
00:47:09.000They have to require workers who exhibit signs of illness to not report to work or seek medical attention.
00:47:13.000They have to enhance sanitation of the workplace, require hand washing or sanitation by workers at appropriate places within the business location, provide PPEs as available and appropriate to the function and location of the worker, prohibit gatherings of workers, permitting workers to take breaks and meals outside, implementing telework for all possible workers, implementing staggered implementing telework for all possible workers, implementing staggered shifts for all possible workers, holding meetings and conferences virtually, delivering intangible services remotely, discouraging workers from using other workers' phones, desks, offices or other work tools,
00:47:41.000prohibiting handshaking, placing notices that encourage hand hygiene everywhere, suspending the use of personal identification number pads, PIN entry devices, electronic signature capture, and any other credit card signature requirements to the extent such suspension is permitted by agreements with credit card companies and credit agencies, enforcing social distancing of non-cohabiting persons while present on such entities' leased or owned properties,
00:48:02.000Providing for alternate points of sale outside of buildings, including curbside pickups, increasing physical space, providing disinfection and sanitation tools, increasing physical space between worksites to at least six feet.
00:48:14.000Okay, that means that everybody's gonna stay closed.
00:48:19.000Nobody was really able to open up, but nobody focused on the conditions of opening up, which, by the way, is how businesses will open up under all those conditions everywhere.
00:48:28.000Instead, they're focusing on how dare he even say the word reopening.
00:48:31.000It's a lot easier if you're a governor right now to simply just say you're going to keep things closed and then suggest that your political opponents want people to die if they disagree is what J.B.
00:48:39.000He says he's extending the stay-at-home order through May 30th without providing a metric as to why that is or how he hopes to restore some level of economic mobility and freedom in his state.
00:48:50.000Next week, I intend to sign an extension of our stay-at-home order with some modifications through Saturday, May 30th.
00:49:00.000To everyone listening, we are in possibly the most difficult part of this journey.
00:49:07.000I know how badly we all want our normal lives back.
00:49:11.000Believe me, if I could make that happen right now, I would.
00:49:16.000But this is the part where we have to dig in.
00:49:20.000Okay, again, I'm fine with the digging in, but you have to explain how you're going to get out of the hole that you have now dug.
00:49:26.000And so far, many of these governors are not.
00:49:28.000Many of these governors are not saying what their expectations are going to be, how many tests are actually necessary, when people can go back to work, under what conditions they can go back to work.
00:49:57.000But I have three kids under the age of seven.
00:49:59.000That means that my six-year-old woke me up for nightmares, and then my three-year-old woke me up because for the first time in like a year and a half, he had an accident.
00:50:06.000And then my baby woke me up because she needed a nurse.
00:50:10.000Well, if you're looking for relaxing literature for your children, like good bedtime literature and just great literature generally, The Complete Tales of Winnie the Pooh by A. A. Milne.
00:51:41.000Other than trying to let the word out that he's going to do all he can to make it hard for people to vote, that's the only way he thinks he can possibly win.
00:51:47.000This is not how the Constitution of the United States works.
00:51:50.000You can't just propone an election as the president.
00:52:12.000But the thing is, members of our media don't know very much about the Constitution either.
00:52:16.000Because nobody in this country knows very much about American history.
00:52:19.000There's a story out of the Associated Press today.
00:52:22.000The latest Nations report card shows eighth graders scores in U.S.
00:52:25.000history and geography declining since 2014.
00:52:27.000Results that Education Secretary Betsy DeVos on Thursday called stark and inexcusable.
00:52:32.000Maybe the fact that all the schools are out right now and people are at home means the kids will actually increase their educational capacity because I'll tell you what, they're not doing much in public schools apparently.
00:52:40.000Civic scores on the 2018 assessments Or the same as in the last round of tests four years earlier.
00:52:44.000The assessments were given for the first time digitally on tablets instead of on paper.
00:52:47.000They were administered to 42,700 8th grade students in 780 public and private schools across the nation.
00:52:54.000Administrators said that lower-performing students lost more ground than middle and higher-performing students, mirroring a pattern seen in recent reading and math scores, which of course is not a great shock.
00:53:02.000Very often, low-performing students are not performing badly through any fault of their own.
00:53:06.000It's because they don't have the same sort of familial infrastructure that higher-performing students generally have.
00:53:11.000The problem is likely to be made worse by the loss of class time caused by coronavirus.
00:53:15.000Across all three subjects, a quarter or less of students scored at or above proficient, meaning they showed a solid understanding of challenging concepts.
00:53:24.000Another quarter or more failed to demonstrate a level of basic understanding the results showed.
00:53:30.000So that means that only a quarter scored at or above proficient, so one in four students scored at or above proficient, and 25% did not even have a basic level of understanding.
00:53:41.000DeVos said in a written statement, in the real world, this means students don't know what the Lincoln-Douglas debates were about, nor can they discuss the significance of the Bill of Rights or point out basic locations on a map.
00:53:50.000Only 15% of them have a reasonable knowledge of U.S. history.
00:53:53.000All Americans should take a moment to think about the concerning implications for the future of our country.
00:53:57.000The score gaps between white students and black and Hispanic peers did not change significantly from 2016.
00:54:03.000history score out of 500 in 2018 was 263 out of 500.
00:54:04.000to 2019, the average U.S. history score out of 500 in 2018 was 263 out of 500.
00:54:12.000So if you're just taking baseline guesses, you'd probably end up in that ballpark.
00:54:16.000The results categorized 15% of 8th graders as proficient when asked, for example, to explain the significance of certain documents and ideas in American history.
00:54:23.000History scores declined across the board for white, black, and Hispanic students.
00:54:27.000The average geography score was 258 out of 500.
00:54:30.000The 2018 civics score, which measured students' knowledge of government, only about 24% scored at or above proficient.
00:54:37.000There was no significant change across ethnic groups.
00:54:58.000Bernie Sanders talking about how we need to fundamentally restructure American society.
00:55:01.000A piece from a guy named Wen over at the New York Times suggesting that American history is a history of racist, settler colonization and oppression.
00:55:11.000And that America needs to move beyond the unfettered, unbridled greed of capitalism into a new era.
00:55:18.000In order to believe these things, you have to be really ignorant about American history.
00:55:22.000Like you have to be taught a version of American history that is context free.
00:55:25.000You have to basically read a synopsis of Howard Zinn, which is very often what is being taught in these schools.
00:55:31.000You have to not understand what American history is truly all about.
00:55:34.000When you don't teach American history in the proper way, when people don't know American history, when they don't know the Constitution, when they don't know the Declaration of Independence, they start to believe that America is just basically a bordered country in which we are all trapped as a series of competing interest groups.
00:55:48.000And this is what a lot of people on the left would like.
00:55:50.000I have a new book coming out that is on this topic in July.
00:55:52.000What many on the left would like is for us to believe that we are not part of the same America, that America was never an idea.
00:56:01.000It was never an ideal that we were striving toward.
00:56:03.000Instead, America was basically a bunch of fuzzy words put on a piece of paper so that people who are in positions of power could continue to oppress people who are not in positions of power.
00:56:11.000And that pattern continues until today.
00:56:13.000Study of American history is crucial and vital to understanding how wrong and stupid this is.
00:56:17.000It's also crucial and vital to understanding how often politicians just say things that are utterly unrealistic and ridiculous.
00:56:22.000When Joe Biden says things like, the president will just push off the election, a cursory glance at the Constitution of the United States would tell people, this is not possible.
00:56:31.000But nobody knows that because nobody actually has read the Constitution of the United States.
00:56:35.000When people on the left suggest that America's unbridled, unfettered greed derives from its settler colonization past, that is so context-free.
00:56:43.000It is free of the context that all of human history is basically about people settling and conquering and colonizing.
00:56:48.000And that does not mean that the sins of America's past are not sins.
00:56:52.000It does mean that to take those out of context as though those are unique to America, whereas the greatnesses of America are somehow international in scope or just things that happen.
00:57:00.000It is a complete reversal of actual American history.
00:57:03.000And you see this from the left all the time.
00:57:05.000You see this idea that when America accomplishes something, it's a world accomplishment.
00:57:08.000You saw this around the marking of the 50th anniversary of the Apollo, the Apollo moon landing.
00:57:13.000You saw that people were saying, oh, it was a global accomplishment.
00:57:16.000No, that was an American accomplishment.
00:57:18.000So a global accomplishment, according to the left, the Apollo flights to the moon, global accomplishment.
00:57:25.000The vast rise from poverty to unprecedented prosperity.
00:57:31.000Not an American accomplishment, a global accomplishment.
00:57:34.000Slavery and American accomplishment, right?
00:57:36.000Anything that was universal and bad, that's uniquely American.
00:57:39.000Everything that sprang from America and has provided benefits to everybody else is universal accomplishment.
00:57:45.000Many on the left want to see America as an inherently bad place, and the only counter effect to that is the disinfectant of true knowledge of American history and understanding of American history.
00:57:52.000It's why the 1619 Project, which is a bunch of bad history put out by the New York Times, is really damaging.
00:57:59.000It is why the goal of the left, which is to portray America in a bad light, has serious Implications for the future of the country.
00:58:06.000Dividing us along racial and class lines in order so that the left can recast America as a bad guy and then redraw all of the American bargain.
00:58:15.000That's what people are fighting against.
00:58:17.000And this has been channeled now into the coronavirus fight.
00:58:19.000Because a lot of the people who are protesting against the lockdowns, what they are saying is we are deeply suspicious that there are a lot of people at the governmental level who are perfectly comfortable with rewriting the bargain between Americans and their government on the back of a global pandemic.
00:58:33.000I think that that skepticism is warranted.
00:58:36.000I do not think that means that we have to pretend the disease is not dangerous.
00:58:39.000It's incredibly dangerous that we have to pretend that lockdown measures were completely useless.
00:58:45.000I don't know, particularly in New York City, I don't think they were completely useless.
00:58:48.000But when you see a near 100% crossover in the Venn diagram, like it's a circle between the people who think America is bad and the people who want continued lockdown, that starts to make people suspicious.
00:59:01.000And that, again, you want to remove the political considerations from this?
00:59:04.000Stop proclaiming that America needs fundamental change on the back of a black swan event that is the worst in modern American history.
00:59:13.000Ignorance is a breeding ground for hatred of America.
00:59:16.000Ignorance is a breeding ground for that.
00:59:17.000And so the fact that our schools have failed so dramatically in teaching people the basics of American history is a complete tragedy.
00:59:23.000Okay, another thing that I hate today.
00:59:27.000The government just continues to spend inordinate amounts of money.
00:59:30.000The House approved another aid package.
00:59:34.000The Paycheck Protection Act had been essentially exhausted immediately because, like all big government programs that are rushed out the door, it was a piece of crap.
00:59:43.000I mean, it turns out that they didn't have good standards for who could borrow and who could not borrow.
00:59:46.000You had Harvard University getting money out of the thing.
00:59:49.000You had big corporations that actually didn't need the money getting money out of the thing.
00:59:53.000And you saw the same thing with the CARES Act.
00:59:54.000I mean, one of the big disasters of the CARES Act, Trillion-dollar spending plan is that there was a part of the plan that made it so that you would make more money on unemployment in some cases than you would make at a business.
01:00:05.000And people like Bernie Sanders are like, why do we care?
01:00:33.000So the CARES Act had a lot of problems with it.
01:00:35.000The new bill also has many problems with it.
01:00:37.000It is $484 billion to restore that depleted loan program for distressed small businesses.
01:00:43.000One of the big problems with these distressed loan programs is that When the government is handing out loans to basically fill in the damage, there are two competing priorities here, and we ought to acknowledge them.
01:00:54.000One is, the government did unbelievable damage to your business by shutting down the economy.
01:00:57.000The other is, when we come out the other side of this, your business may still be damaged because the underlying conditions have changed.
01:01:03.000Meaning there are certain businesses, because they're locked down, they'll come back, right?
01:01:06.000They're not businesses that were dependent on in-person clientele meeting in small amounts of space, for example.
01:01:11.000So let's say that you own a jewelry business and the government shut you down, but most of your work was done online.
01:01:17.000People are coming in kind of on a sporadic basis.
01:01:19.000It's not like your shop is super crowded all the time.
01:01:21.000You make your money by selling expensive items.
01:01:23.000You go back to work and what the market that was there, it's changed some because people are not as rich as they were, but The fundamental underlying market conditions for your business have not changed in a severe way.
01:01:37.000You're a restaurant owner, and you own a bodega in New York City that can fit a person with social distancing.
01:01:44.000It can fit a person, a human being, once you socially distance.
01:01:47.000When you come back to work, the government providing you a loan to keep that business afloat is actually just a giant waste of money.
01:01:52.000The government actually should just have said, your business is basically dead and now we're going to pay you to be on unemployment for a while and compensate you for that loss, but we can't float loans to businesses that are going to be unsuccessful.
01:02:02.000This is why I suggested that the best way to do this was to have banks actually assess risk in loans and then have the government promote the bank's lending under these circumstances to businesses that need money floated to them.
01:02:15.000In other words, if the loan was a bad loan, then there is no reason why you should continue to float the loan.
01:02:20.000As this continues, there's going to be a lot of pressure for the government to continue to float money to businesses that are not going to be viable on the other end of this because underlying human activity has changed.
01:02:32.000And it's one of the reasons why we actually need to get back to work.
01:02:34.000One of the reasons we need the lockdowns to end and we need to get back to work is because we need to know what the market feedback loop looks like.
01:02:40.000The way that you can tell which businesses are going to be successful and which ones are not is when people get back out there and they start to actually patronize businesses again.
01:02:47.000And then we need fluidity in the labor market.
01:02:49.000All the people who are losing jobs in the restaurant industry, if let's say the delivery industry is now going to rise concomitant with that.
01:02:57.000Or let's say that the retail industry is going down, the online industry is rising.
01:03:01.000People need to be able to know that so they can move from one industry into the other.
01:03:05.000Fluidity of labor can only be had when you have full transparency into what the market is demanding of particular businesses.
01:03:13.000Creating glue in that system is actually not a very good idea.
01:03:16.000But unfortunately, it's not just that glue that's a problem.
01:03:19.000It is also the fact that the Democrats are now pushing for states to be bailed out.
01:03:23.000Now, if the state has incurred some sort of debt on the back of federal mandates and federal recommendations and damage done by the federal government, going to the federal government to be filled in is not a particularly horrible idea.
01:03:35.000If, however, states are basically coming and saying, so, here's the deal, guys.
01:03:38.000We ran up a massive credit card, like huge, over the past few years.
01:03:43.000And now, we'd love for you to fill that in.
01:03:46.000No, the federal government should not be filling that in.
01:03:48.000So Mitch McConnell said, listen, if you are the state of California and you are running this massive debt, state of California has an enormous amount of debt.
01:04:16.000They've just been filling these things in in union contracts, understanding they're going to have to tax people and sell bonds later to pay for it.
01:04:21.000With all of that said, these states are running massive deficits.
01:04:24.000So Mitch McConnell was like, okay, you incurred new costs from coronavirus.
01:04:28.000You're not going to take in as much tax revenue.
01:04:30.000You're not going to be able to fulfill your obligations.
01:04:32.000You should do what municipalities have been doing.
01:04:34.000You should renegotiate your debt with these various entities and pension funds, because it is not up to the taxpayers of Kentucky or Texas to pay for this.
01:05:11.000There are food safety inspectors risking their lives to see that the food that's produced is safe, and so many others that are vital, and to just sort of give them the back of your hand.
01:05:21.000And say, go bankrupt, which is huge pain to millions of families across America.
01:05:27.000It's a position that is hard to imagine.
01:05:37.000The fact is that if a state incurred debt that has nothing to do with coronavirus and now your revenues aren't meeting what you thought they were going to meet, that's just called you being bad at business.
01:05:47.000I'm saying that if you're a business that is not viable, people should not be floating you loans.
01:05:50.000And if you're a state that is not viable, people should not be floating you loans.
01:05:53.000They should certainly not be bailing you out, right?
01:05:55.000They should pay for the damage they've done at the federal level, and then you should have been fiscally responsible if you're a state.
01:06:00.000And if you have to renegotiate those, like, where does the money come from?
01:06:03.000Either it's coming from states that are more fiscally responsible, or it's coming from future taxpayers who did not make these deals in the first place.
01:06:18.000I mean, if there's ever a time for humanity and decency, now is the time.
01:06:26.000And if there was ever a time to stop your political, obsessive political bias and anger, which is what it's morphed into, just a political anger, Now is the time.
01:06:43.000And you want to politically divide this nation now?
01:06:52.000No, what's irresponsible and reckless is racking up debt for years.
01:06:55.000For years and years and years and years and decades.
01:06:56.000And then being like, oh look, our revenues didn't meet the shortfall, how about you bail me out?
01:07:00.000That is the definition of irresponsibility.
01:07:02.000The Wall Street Journal points out that Cuomo warned for months about a $6 billion state deficit thanks to runaway Medicaid costs and taxpayers leaving his high-tax state.
01:07:10.000He signed a $177 billion business-as-usual budget on April 3rd that allows him to borrow $11 billion if spending exceeds revenue.
01:07:45.000States should declare bankruptcy if they have been so fiscally irresponsible that now they're asking to be bailed out, not from coronavirus-related decisions, but everything else.
01:07:52.000McConnell is saying the right thing here.
01:07:53.000And fiscal responsibility, last I checked, should still be a priority for our congresspeople, even though apparently it never will be again, and we're just going to spend money that doesn't exist until the end of time, and then hyperinflate our way out of it 10 years from now, or create austerity renegotiations in 10 years, which is most likely to happen.
01:08:08.000You can either renegotiate it now and be fiscally responsible, or you can renegotiate it later when you have a bunch of people who are waiting on their pensions, many more people than now, and who are going to be deprived of those pensions because the states are too lazy and the politicians are too gutless to make hard decisions right now.