The Ben Shapiro Show - Tai Lopez | The Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special Ep. 14

00:00:00.000 This guy's 70 years old.

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00:00:07.000 That's a mentor.

00:00:16.000 Well, here we are on the Ben Shapiro Sunday special, and we are here with Tai Lopez.

00:00:20.000 You can check out all of his stuff at tailopez.com.

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00:01:38.000 Well, Ty, thanks so much for stopping by.

00:01:39.000 I really appreciate it.

00:01:40.000 Thanks for having me.

00:01:41.000 And so for folks who don't know, Tai Lopez is kind of the entrepreneurial guru for probably hundreds of thousands of people across the United States.

00:01:49.000 You can see all of his programs over at TaiLopez.com.

00:01:52.000 He has a brand new one called Knowledge Society we're going to talk about.

00:01:54.000 But Tai, how did you get started in this business?

00:01:56.000 Because your career path, shall we say, is somewhat unconventional.

00:01:59.000 Yeah.

00:02:00.000 There's a personality test you can take called HEXACO.

00:02:03.000 It's the most scientific one.

00:02:04.000 And one of the, it puts you in 25, there's 25

00:02:07.000 We're good to go.

00:02:27.000 Maybe in the womb.

00:02:29.000 Maybe it's something like that.

00:02:30.000 But yeah, I mean, I think that at some point in my life, the most unconventional part has been my education and how I use the education system.

00:02:39.000 So I went through the regular kind of education system.

00:02:42.000 But then I was 18, graduated high school, was going to go to college, and a guy called me up, a guy named Joel Salatin, and said, do you want me to mentor you?

00:02:52.000 I'm doing a six-month apprenticeship.

00:02:55.000 He had a farm in Virginia.

00:02:56.000 It's like completely different because I grew up, I was born in LA.

00:02:59.000 And I said, I wonder if I should do this with my stepdad.

00:03:03.000 I had kind of a rough childhood, but one piece of good advice my stepdad gave me, he said, you can always go to college later.

00:03:08.000 You might not get a chance to do a mentorship with this guy.

00:03:12.000 And so I went up there for six months.

00:03:14.000 I lived in a little cabin in his backyard.

00:03:17.000 It's a 500 acre farm.

00:03:19.000 I worked 12 hours a day for, I ended up being there for about two years.

00:03:23.000 And it changed my life because instead of being

00:03:26.000 In a system where I had lectures and professors talking to me and you're partying and all that, I was 16 hours a day with somebody 20 years ahead of me.

00:03:38.000 And I did a TEDx talk and it kind of went viral and I think the reason was, I told people, if you want to do big things in life, you have to follow this thing I call the law of 33%.

00:03:49.000 So you spend 33% of your time around people

00:03:54.000 We're good to go.

00:04:17.000 Shadowing them.

00:04:33.000 Some of them went to college, but I was like, what's a common thread that they all have?

00:04:38.000 And found out that Albert Einstein bumped into this guy, I think his name was Max Levinson, who was a mathematician, an older mathematician.

00:04:46.000 Every Thursday, he would go to lunch and talk math with this guy from age 16 on.

00:04:52.000 Alexander the Great, who maybe was the greatest conqueror of all time, his dad hired a mentor for him at age, I think, 14 to 16.

00:05:00.000 And he's a pretty good mentor.

00:05:02.000 His name was Aristotle.

00:05:04.000 And Warren Buffett got a guy named Benjamin Graham.

00:05:09.000 And as I went through the list, I found in the top 40 people that you could say have done big things in our time, I think 39 of them.

00:05:16.000 I don't know.

00:05:38.000 I tried that approach, I guess you could say.

00:05:40.000 Well, you had a bunch of kind of interesting experiences all the way through here.

00:05:43.000 I mean, you spent two years living with the Amish. 1.00

00:05:45.000 With the Amish, yeah. 0.97

00:05:46.000 How did you wind up moving from two years with the Amish to, you know, multi-million dollars a year with 500 acres over in Virginia?

00:05:54.000 Yeah, people often say, they're like, because I did a video in 2014, 2015.

00:06:00.000 I had bought a Lamborghini, and I posted it, and it ended up, I think the total views, there's a few versions of it, is 600 million views on YouTube.

00:06:08.000 It's one of the most viewed things besides music videos, right?

00:06:12.000 So people are like, how'd you end up from no electricity, living like that for two years, to Beverly Hills?

00:06:20.000 And I'm like, I have no idea actually, but life leads you down a path that you don't always understand, except in hindsight.

00:06:27.000 So I guess in hindsight,

00:06:28.000 I'm motivated by adventure.

00:06:31.000 One of the things a mentor taught me is this thing that I call the four Ms. 0.88

00:06:34.000 A lot of people procrastinate.

00:06:38.000 Most people I meet, I've got about 13 million social media followers now.

00:06:42.000 So I get thousands of people asking me questions every day.

00:06:46.000 And the most common theme, one of the most common, is how do I overcome procrastination, fear, and anxiety?

00:06:52.000 My answer is like, well, you gotta know what motivates you, and different people are motivated in different ways.

00:06:56.000 So the four Ms, and I've run this by a lot of scientists, most of them think I'm on the right track.

00:07:02.000 One of them, he thinks I'm missing an M, but the first M is material things, slash money.

00:07:09.000 The second one is mating, slash romance.

00:07:12.000 The third one is momentum, slash freedom.

00:07:15.000 And the fourth one is mastery, slash status.

00:07:18.000 If you look at any person that you know,

00:07:21.000 And you break down why do they do what they do.

00:07:23.000 It's one of those four.

00:07:24.000 Now, Dr. David Buss, who's a mentor to me now, he used to teach at Harvard, and he's an evolutionary psychologist.

00:07:30.000 He said, Ty, it's all mating.

00:07:31.000 All human psychology is mating.

00:07:34.000 It has to be.

00:07:34.000 It's evolutionary.

00:07:36.000 But I would say, for me, my number one is this thing, movement, freedom.

00:07:43.000 And I've kind of been a free spirit.

00:07:46.000 The reason I went from living with no electricity, focused on, you know, living in the country, close to the land, nature, to the city, was I realized I needed to make money to have freedom.

00:07:59.000 And the average person in America, I read, is saving about $2 for every $100 they make.

00:08:05.000 And that's a great way to create a feudal society.

00:08:09.000 Charlie Munger says, don't try to think of how to have a good life.

00:08:14.000 He says, use the principle of inversion.

00:08:17.000 Try to think of how to have a bad life and then don't do that.

00:08:20.000 So he goes, you want to have a bad life?

00:08:22.000 For every hundred dollars you make, save one or two of them and spend 98.

00:08:26.000 And so I grew up, you know, I was born to a single mom.

00:08:29.000 My dad was actually in prison when I was born.

00:08:31.000 I was born kind of in the inner city in Long Beach.

00:08:35.000 We're good to go.

00:08:54.000 Do we equip you with any skills for that?

00:08:56.000 No.

00:08:56.000 We teach you calculus, which will help you if you become an engineer.

00:08:59.000 I remember I was in a class, I remember learning in seventh grade, they made me memorize what the California state bird was.

00:09:08.000 I think it's the California condor, if I remember correctly.

00:09:10.000 That's right.

00:09:11.000 But I was thinking, then when I was like 25, I learned how to invest in real estate in the stock market, and I was thinking,

00:09:19.000 I could have waited on the California state bird.

00:09:22.000 I feel like you can learn that at 60 and you'll still have an enriched life.

00:09:26.000 But you may want to teach kids before they're 18 how to do their taxes, how to invest, how to do real estate, how to sign a contract.

00:09:34.000 There's zero of that in school. 1.00

00:09:36.000 Even in college, I hire PhDs that are just morons. 1.00

00:09:41.000 Or actually, don't hire them. 1.00

00:09:41.000 I interview them. 1.00

00:09:43.000 And I'm thinking, get your money back, son.

00:09:45.000 Depending on who you ask, there's $1.2 trillion of recorded debt for college in the United States.

00:09:53.000 And they think if you count untracked loans from parents, we're talking $2 trillion in debt.

00:10:01.000 And people are coming out knowing nothing.

00:10:03.000 Common sense is no longer common.

00:10:07.000 Yeah, and so how does a society survive that doesn't know how to take care of themselves?

00:10:14.000 It ends up in a government state.

00:10:17.000 That becomes a solution.

00:10:19.000 And you know, Joel Salatin, I'm not as political as you or even my first mentor, Joel Salatin, but he's libertarian and I tend to be more libertarian, probably partly because of that, but partly because it makes sense.

00:10:29.000 And so now it's the replacement of common sense with the replacement of a big government.

00:10:35.000 That's going to be the common sense for you, but it's not.

00:10:38.000 In fact, the government's designing the school curriculum that says, let's focus on the California state bird and forget the rest.

00:10:45.000 So I want to ask you about, you mentioned these four M's, the big motivating factors.

00:10:49.000 So I'm going to kind of softly positive fifth M, which I think, and I want to ask you about this, which is meaning.

00:10:56.000 So you talked about, you know, the idea of mastery and you talked about money and you talked about mating and you talked about freedom, essentially.

00:11:04.000 But where do you get your meaning?

00:11:06.000 What gets you up every day?

00:11:08.000 We can have all these things, and we do.

00:11:10.000 We live in the richest society in the history of the world, the freest society in the history of the world, and yet rates of depression are rising, rates of suicide are rising.

00:11:17.000 Where are people missing the meaning in life?

00:11:19.000 Because, you know, as somebody who's also very libertarian-minded, I'm very much in favor of free markets, and I'm very much in favor of earning and entrepreneurship.

00:11:26.000 We'll get back to all that in a second.

00:11:27.000 But what gets you up in the morning?

00:11:28.000 And it can't just be money, because you've got a lot of it.

00:11:32.000 Otherwise, you would just retire, right?

00:11:34.000 And it can't just be freedom, because the truth is that you've got enough money to provide for you that freedom.

00:11:39.000 What makes you think, okay, I'm going to get up today and I'm going to go do some work?

00:11:41.000 What gives you that sense of meaning?

00:11:43.000 So now we're going to the deepest question.

00:11:46.000 You know, I do a lot of book stuff.

00:11:49.000 I'll give you what I think is the greatest answer to this question.

00:11:53.000 And maybe the greatest book that nobody reads.

00:11:56.000 There's a book called Civilization is Discontents by Sigmund Freud.

00:11:59.000 And Sigmund Freud's been discredited in some ways.

00:12:03.000 But the man may be the smartest person you'll ever read if you read Civilization is Discontents.

00:12:07.000 And he says this question of what the meaning of life is has been asked time without end.

00:12:13.000 And nobody can give a satisfactory answer.

00:12:16.000 And he says maybe because there is no answer.

00:12:19.000 But he says I can tell you

00:12:22.000 We're good to go.

00:12:35.000 At the core of every human action of those four Ms, people perceive, if I get money, I'll be happier. 0.54

00:12:41.000 If I get freedom, I'll be happier.

00:12:43.000 So I used to have a more complex answer, but now I give a cliche answer.

00:12:47.000 I'm probably searching for happiness and avoidance of unhappiness.

00:12:52.000 I don't know.

00:12:53.000 It's a good question.

00:12:54.000 Are we humans so differentiated that meaning is different for everybody?

00:13:00.000 I don't know, I think Sigmund Freud might be right.

00:13:02.000 Al Capone was seeking happiness in a distorted way, and so was, I just read the book of El Chapo.

00:13:08.000 This dude wanted to be happy.

00:13:11.000 He did it, you know, by selling meth and all this stuff.

00:13:15.000 And people like the Amish are deeply religious people.

00:13:18.000 Now the Amish, it's interesting you bring up depression.

00:13:23.000 Jared Diamond,

00:13:25.000 who wrote Guns, Germs, and Steel here at Harvard Pulitzer Prize.

00:13:28.000 He studied the Amish, and he said they have 500% lower depression, which is my experience.

00:13:33.000 The Amish are the happiest people.

00:13:35.000 And I think that the Amish are happy... I think they would disagree with Freud.

00:13:40.000 So for the Amish, life is religious, spiritual.

00:13:44.000 They're Christians, just very... They're Christians how Christians used to be in the 1800s. 0.98

00:13:49.000 The Amish are actually not as weird as people think.

00:13:51.000 They just froze in time.

00:13:52.000 They just have Sabbath seven days a week, basically.

00:13:55.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:13:55.000 With some work.

00:13:56.000 It's like a Jewish Sabbath with some work, yeah. 0.73

00:13:58.000 So maybe better than, so my humanistic answer is I'm seeking to be a happy, but you know, the Amish are, their thing is like there's going to be another life after death. 1.00

00:14:09.000 And so that's their meaning.

00:14:11.000 So they don't take themselves maybe as seriously on planet Earth.

00:14:14.000 So I would say I'm not as religious as the, as the Amish.

00:14:20.000 But that's a good answer, too, if you can pull it off.

00:14:22.000 I don't know that, when I live at the Amish, I went after Joel Soutz, and I ended up at the Amish for over two years, and I actually own a ranch in the middle of an Amish community now, and I sometimes think that, you know the Bible story, the Garden of Eden, right?

00:14:40.000 And some people think it's literal, and some people think it's allegorical, but the story is that they were in this innocent bliss,

00:14:48.000 Then they eat an apple.

00:14:51.000 And the apple was from the tree of knowledge, right?

00:14:55.000 Also, they knew lots of stuff.

00:14:57.000 And because they knew lots of stuff, they were kicked out forever and the flaming sword was there.

00:15:01.000 And I kind of feel like for me, since if I had been born Amish and never seen the outside world, I could just be happy with that.

00:15:10.000 But because

00:15:11.000 I've been out in the modern world.

00:15:13.000 There's like a flame.

00:15:14.000 I see the happiness that they have, but I can't get past the sword.

00:15:18.000 So maybe I'm not as happy as them.

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00:16:29.000 Okay, so speaking of entrepreneurship, let's get started with that video that has 600 million views.

00:16:34.000 You're a big reader, obviously.

00:16:35.000 You've talked about how you read a book a day.

00:16:37.000 What's your technique for reading?

00:16:38.000 First of all, I see you're really busy, right?

00:16:40.000 You walk around here, you got a big crew, and you've got people following you with cameras all the time.

00:16:43.000 Where do you find the time to read a book a day?

00:16:45.000 How long does it take you to read a book?

00:16:46.000 We're good to go. 0.99

00:17:04.000 Suck, first of all. 0.98

00:17:06.000 So you don't need to read as many books as you think. 0.99

00:17:08.000 So in a book a day, I often read some of the great books over and over.

00:17:13.000 Maybe once a year.

00:17:14.000 I read Civilization is Discontents by Sigmund Freud probably 10 times a year.

00:17:19.000 It's that good.

00:17:21.000 So I think you have to weigh, and when you pick up a book that someone recommends, and it's the book of the day for me, and I realize it's not that good,

00:17:31.000 I don't finish it, and people think that's controversial.

00:17:34.000 Oh, Ty, you don't really finish a book a day.

00:17:35.000 I'm like, yes, I did.

00:17:36.000 I got the only good, the rest of the book is just, they couldn't sell.

00:17:40.000 They had one good premise that was eight pages, but the publisher's like, we can't sell an eight-page book for 25 bucks, so fill it up with anecdotal stories.

00:17:51.000 It's like when I read these books now.

00:17:53.000 A lot.

00:17:54.000 I won't name names or big names.

00:17:56.000 I'm going, once I find out their premise in the chapter, I just move on because I know they're only going to put stories in there supporting what they say.

00:18:05.000 I'll join you in the controversy.

00:18:06.000 I mean, as I get older, I have the same experience.

00:18:08.000 When I was younger, I used to bull my way through everything.

00:18:11.000 And now, I mean, I was in the middle of a book the other day, and it was a 500-page book, and I was at page 350.

00:18:15.000 And normally, I've been like, okay, there's only 150 pages left.

00:18:18.000 Go for it, right?

00:18:19.000 Let's finish this thing through.

00:18:20.000 At page 350, I was like, this is not worth another two hours of my time.

00:18:23.000 I'm done here.

00:18:23.000 We're finished.

00:18:24.000 I put it down.

00:18:25.000 So I hear you.

00:18:27.000 This is what Charlie Munger says.

00:18:28.000 I really, for business, I think the greatest business people of all time were Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger.

00:18:35.000 And, you know, they're not the richest right now.

00:18:38.000 Jeff Bezos is, but they own a hundred brands.

00:18:41.000 They're the most diversified people.

00:18:42.000 They got $400 billion company, keep $150 billion in cash.

00:18:47.000 These guys are insanely smart.

00:18:49.000 And what Charlie Munger says is most smart people he meet understand the concept of opportunity cost, right?

00:18:57.000 People get it.

00:18:58.000 Okay.

00:18:58.000 But he said, but no one implements it.

00:19:01.000 So when you're reading a book and you're 350 pages in and you realize it's garbage, but there might be a little bit of nuggets in the last 150, but the last 150 is three hours of reading.

00:19:16.000 You've reached the marginal, like, you're done.

00:19:19.000 Marginal cost is too high, I guess.

00:19:21.000 And the real cost is not those two hours reading that, it's what else could you be reading?

00:19:27.000 There's over, depending on who you ask, there's 50 million books been published, something like that, more.

00:19:34.000 You're not going to finish them in your lifetime.

00:19:37.000 So what you have to do is narrow it down.

00:19:39.000 I actually have a free little thing.

00:19:40.000 I don't make any money on it, but tilopes.com slash books.

00:19:44.000 I list a hundred books I think everybody should read.

00:19:47.000 And I think you're better off in life taking that top hundred and reading it over and over because really good books.

00:19:55.000 Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins, The One Thing by Gary Keller.

00:20:00.000 These books, Contiki is a great story, like an autobiography.

00:20:04.000 If you read those books and you come back once every two years, they have a whole new meaning for you when you reread them.

00:20:11.000 So I've never taken the approach of trying to read

00:20:15.000 You know, everything, people.

00:20:16.000 Definitely don't read what most people recommend you.

00:20:18.000 Definitely don't read what's at the front of Barnes & Noble.

00:20:21.000 Barnes & Noble's always.

00:20:23.000 Because they're pushing something.

00:20:25.000 They're pushing whatever.

00:20:26.000 When publishers pay to put stuff on the front table.

00:20:28.000 They pay to put it in the front. 0.99

00:20:29.000 You know, if you're playing poker and after 30 minutes you can't figure out who the sucker in the room is, you're the sucker. 0.99

00:20:36.000 They put you there to make money from you. 0.99

00:20:38.000 When you walk in Barnes & Noble and you're like, oh, this book appeals to me that they

00:20:43.000 Paid to have in the front. 1.00

00:20:44.000 You're the sucker in the room. 0.96

00:20:46.000 Go to the back of Barnes & Noble in the little psychology sections and history sections and you find these books that you're like, this is the greatest thing I've ever read. 0.96

00:20:54.000 So... Are those your favorite topics?

00:20:56.000 The kind of social psychology history?

00:20:59.000 If you have to pick topics, just for fun to read, what's your topic?

00:21:02.000 I mean, I love history, but I love psychology.

00:21:05.000 In the last, I'd say, last five years, one of the most critical mentors I ever had, and a lot of people associate me with making money in entrepreneurship, but this guy named Dr. David Buss.

00:21:17.000 If you want to read a book that will blow your mind, it's his textbook called Evolutionary Psychology by Dr. David Buss.

00:21:23.000 It's what's used at Harvard and Yale and all this.

00:21:26.000 It's insanely insightful.

00:21:29.000 Basically everything you've never understood in life, why people act the way they do, you'll be like, that makes sense.

00:21:34.000 So I like psychology because one of the biggest things they didn't teach us in school that they should have, is how to read people.

00:21:40.000 Because almost every trial, tribulation, traumatic event you have in life, it's not from an inanimate object.

00:21:47.000 Most people don't look back at their life and be like, you know what sucked in my life?

00:21:52.000 I stubbed my toe, I broke my foot on a rock falling.

00:21:55.000 Most people's thing is like, I married the wrong... They say the three biggest regrets of people.

00:22:00.000 Who they married, the career they chose, and the education they had.

00:22:06.000 Like 80% of people regret those three.

00:22:08.000 And to the extent you regret only one of them, you'll be happier than people who regret two of them.

00:22:13.000 Most people regret all three.

00:22:14.000 And the reason you regret all three, especially career and who you marry, is no one teaches you how to read people.

00:22:21.000 Most important thing that can happen in school is learn how to read people.

00:22:25.000 All the good things and all the bad things will come from filtering out the bad people before they get in your social circle.

00:22:31.000 And bringing in the good people.

00:22:32.000 I think of it like, you know those hamster balls?

00:22:34.000 You put a little hamster in a plastic ball and you roll him around.

00:22:39.000 The reason you put him in a plastic ball, I didn't know as a little kid, I thought it was supposed to be fun.

00:22:43.000 And then I had a friend who had a hamster and didn't put it in a ball and he stepped on it one time.

00:22:48.000 And I realized, wait a second, the plastic ball is to keep the hamster from dying.

00:22:53.000 We're the hamster.

00:22:54.000 And so you need to have a thick plastic ball around your life

00:22:58.000 Because if the wrong people get inside that, you will have, again, if I wanted to curse my enemy, I'm like, may horrible people befriend you, become your business partners, because each of them will cause a self-destruction in your life.

00:23:12.000 And no one talks about how to read people.

00:23:14.000 I mean, I created this personality quiz.

00:23:17.000 This is another little thing.

00:23:18.000 I don't charge for it yet.

00:23:19.000 It's at tylopez.com slash quiz.

00:23:21.000 I don't know if I'm supposed to plug these, but I don't care anyway.

00:23:24.000 I think about three, four, 500,000 people have taken it.

00:23:28.000 Um, and without me advertising it, this is one of the first times I've mentioned it on somebody else's show, but...

00:23:34.000 I took the top six scientific tests that nobody talks about except in the back halls of psychology departments at Harvard and Yale.

00:23:44.000 And I made them public.

00:23:45.000 And it will, and I tell people, before you have somebody be your business partner, have them take tyloquest.com slash quiz.

00:23:51.000 Before you go on a date with somebody, be like, hey, will you take this quiz?

00:23:55.000 It's insane, the mental health problems in the world right now.

00:24:02.000 To speak to politics, since that's a big subject of yours, almost everything people talk about in politics is related to personality traits.

00:24:14.000 For example, being a Republican.

00:24:18.000 is something you can test for, and it's probably genetic, being conservative.

00:24:23.000 There's a genetic component.

00:24:24.000 I'm not saying that people don't choose, I'm just saying in general.

00:24:28.000 They call it RWA, right-wing authoritarianism.

00:24:32.000 It's an association, and it's an evolutionary reason.

00:24:36.000 You want a society where some people say, pick yourself up by your bootstraps and go out and forge your own path in the world.

00:24:43.000 That's more of the conservative approach to life.

00:24:46.000 Now, a democratic, more liberal approach is, no, we need Meals on Wheels.

00:24:51.000 We need this safety net for people.

00:24:54.000 But that's a personality trait.

00:24:55.000 That's why people choose that.

00:24:56.000 It's more of a nurturing, estrogen type of response.

00:24:59.000 I'm not saying everyone who's a liberal is estrogen response, but there is something to that.

00:25:04.000 And I didn't realize that until Dr. David Buss is like, oh yeah, we can ask people a series of questions.

00:25:10.000 And I already know their political stance before I ask it.

00:25:12.000 I don't have to ask it.

00:25:13.000 Well, there are certainly biological components to politics.

00:25:16.000 There are certain studies that tend to be a little bit biased with regard to self-quizzing.

00:25:22.000 For example, if you look at these tests that suggest that authoritarianism is a more right-wing trait, that very much is tied to the questions that are being asked.

00:25:30.000 When you ask, for example, do you think that people should be shut down because they don't believe in climate change, you'll see that the left suddenly looks a lot more authoritarian than the right does.

00:25:39.000 There are certain biological studies that are really fascinating about, for example, if you smell something dirty and then you, this is for everybody, if you smell something dirty and then you ask people how they would vote on certain questions, they suddenly become more conservative because they're trying to avoid the dirty.

00:25:52.000 Yeah.

00:25:52.000 And it's quite fascinating that way.

00:25:55.000 So let's talk a little bit about the mentorship stuff, because obviously you have MentorBox and you have all these programs that are, you're obviously talking a lot about mentorship.

00:26:00.000 What's the best way for somebody who doesn't have a mentor to find one?

00:26:03.000 Like for me, it was very easy.

00:26:04.000 My dad was my mentor.

00:26:05.000 I think for a lot of young men, particularly, having a very involved father is a key to success, obviously.

00:26:12.000 Not having a father in the home, you're an exception.

00:26:15.000 But I found fathers, surrogate fathers.

00:26:17.000 Exactly.

00:26:17.000 So how can that happen for folks who don't have either a father they can trust with this stuff or a dad at all?

00:26:22.000 Yeah, that is a good question.

00:26:23.000 Here's the thing.

00:26:25.000 Groucho Marx said he didn't want to be part of any club that would have him as a member.

00:26:29.000 Right?

00:26:29.000 He's like, if they'd have me as a member, it's too low of a quality club.

00:26:32.000 He wanted to be in a country club that he couldn't get into.

00:26:35.000 It's the same with mentors.

00:26:36.000 Anybody who's like, I'll gladly mentor you.

00:26:38.000 You don't want them to mentor you because you're like, why aren't you busy?

00:26:42.000 You know, why do you have time to mentor me?

00:26:44.000 Either you're 93 years old and retired, um, or there's something wrong.

00:26:48.000 And so it's a catch 22 because you're trying to find people to mentor you that really don't want to and don't have the time.

00:26:55.000 So how do you do that?

00:26:56.000 One, I would say,

00:26:59.000 I have no idea anymore.

00:27:30.000 Talk show hosts?

00:27:31.000 I mean, 20 years ago, I would have said those things, right?

00:27:34.000 That would have been what I would have said 20 years ago, and you're right that I did find people in this space to try and give me advice.

00:27:41.000 When I was much younger, one of my mentors was Andrew Breitbart, who was very prominent in the space.

00:27:45.000 When I was younger, I used to talk a lot with David Limbaugh, who's the brother of Rush, and he used to give me advice.

00:27:51.000 On the column side, I was friends with Ann Coulter and folks like that.

00:27:55.000 So yeah, I mean, I get what you're saying.

00:27:57.000 When I was a teenager, I was looking actively for people

00:28:00.000 We're good to go.

00:28:18.000 Abraham Lincoln or something like that.

00:28:20.000 Yeah, and I think that it's changed for me a little bit, too, in terms of the stuff that I envy is knowledge in certain areas, not even effectiveness in certain areas.

00:28:27.000 I feel like we're pretty effective at reaching people, and I'm not sure who I'd look to in the space who is better than we are at it.

00:28:34.000 But there are certain areas of knowledge where I feel like I lack.

00:28:36.000 And so there, I'm trying to constantly reach out to people who know more than I do.

00:28:39.000 And knowing what you don't know is obviously a major area of being able to find the right guy to teach you, I think.

00:28:44.000 Well, I would say this is my simple answer.

00:28:47.000 Talk to 10 people with potential, one will say yes.

00:28:50.000 And that's where most people mess up.

00:28:51.000 They go, I know this perfect person.

00:28:53.000 They go talk to one person.

00:28:54.000 I'm like, they're busy.

00:28:55.000 Talk to 10, you'll get one.

00:28:57.000 If you want two mentors, talk to 20, you'll find two.

00:29:00.000 And your mentors will change.

00:29:01.000 In the President of the United States, I think cabinet is 15.

00:29:04.000 You need a handful. 1.00

00:29:06.000 A mistake is also finding one mentor because then it becomes cult-like.

00:29:10.000 You know, you don't want the cult-like.

00:29:11.000 You want a cabinet around you of wise advisors.

00:29:15.000 And an old proverb is, make war with a multitude of counselors.

00:29:19.000 And that's kind of been my approach.

00:29:21.000 And so the other day I was working on this real estate deal.

00:29:23.000 It was a mobile home park I was thinking of buying.

00:29:25.000 I actually grew up in a mobile home.

00:29:27.000 We're good to go.

00:29:45.000 Then I was at Veggie Grill by Trader Joe's on Sunset.

00:29:49.000 I called him up.

00:29:50.000 His name's Richard.

00:29:51.000 I said, Richard, should I get this place?

00:29:53.000 And he goes, I'm really busy.

00:29:54.000 I don't have time to talk.

00:29:55.000 I said, can you just 30 seconds?

00:29:57.000 He goes, OK, tell me the details.

00:29:59.000 Told him the high-level details.

00:30:01.000 He got so into the subject, it was a one hour on the phone.

00:30:03.000 He just laid out exactly what to look for, what not to look for, and I was thinking.

00:30:08.000 This guy's 70 years old.

00:30:09.000 He just gave me accumulated knowledge of 50 years.

00:30:13.000 I just saved 50 years in one hour.

00:30:15.000 That's a mentor.

00:30:16.000 So in a second, I want to ask you about your philosophy of individualism versus kind of communitarianism.

00:30:20.000 We'll get into politics, which is my favorite space, in just one second.

00:30:23.000 But first, let's talk about your imminent death. 0.99

00:30:25.000 So you're going to die sometime soon. 1.00

00:30:27.000 Maybe not that soon. 0.99

00:30:28.000 Hopefully not that soon.

00:30:29.000 But when you do plots, you're going to really wish that you'd had life insurance.

00:30:32.000 I mean, if you're there after you're dead and you're looking around, you're going, what did I fail to do?

00:30:36.000 Life insurance might be high on that list.

00:30:37.000 Life insurance is pretty important.

00:30:38.000 It's also confusing, which is why four out of 10 people don't have it.

00:30:41.000 And maybe you're one of those people.

00:30:42.000 But if anything were to happen, it's important that your loved ones are taken care of.

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00:31:28.000 Okay, so let's talk about your politics a little bit.

00:31:31.000 We're good to go.

00:31:47.000 And yet, it seems like I've talked to a wide variety of people across a variety of political viewpoints right here on this show.

00:31:52.000 I mean, I've talked to you, and I've talked to Jordan Peterson, I've talked to Joe Rogan, I've talked to Eric Weinstein, right?

00:31:59.000 Just a bunch of people from right to middle to left.

00:32:02.000 And they're all very successful people.

00:32:04.000 They all seem to have this very individualistic perspective.

00:32:07.000 Even if they are Democrats, where do you think policy and politics and sort of perspective on individual responsibility, where do those line up?

00:32:16.000 Well, I think the first thing to know about politics, if you study history at all, even at a minor level, politicians haven't been good people for a long time.

00:32:23.000 They're probably not going to be good people.

00:32:25.000 I'm always, like, amazed that people are like, you're not going to believe this.

00:32:29.000 I found out that

00:32:31.000 This about Bill Clinton or Donald Trump or Hillary.

00:32:34.000 I'm like, welcome to planet Earth, my friend.

00:32:37.000 Have you read a book?

00:32:39.000 This has been going on 2,000 years ago, 1,800 years ago, 1,700.

00:32:44.000 So what happens is, going back to reading people, politics attracts narcissistic people.

00:32:50.000 And if you look at the dark— Thank you.

00:32:54.000 Well, no, no.

00:32:55.000 I'm saying people running for office.

00:32:56.000 I gotcha, I gotcha.

00:32:57.000 Don't worry.

00:32:57.000 Not people commenting on it.

00:33:00.000 The people running for office.

00:33:01.000 I would say Donald Trump is the most classic.

00:33:05.000 One of the worst presidents ever.

00:33:32.000 To some, but to some, some love them, you know? 0.97

00:33:36.000 My grandpa said Calvin Coolidge was the worst, the most corrupt. 0.94

00:33:40.000 But anyway, so my take is nobody cares about you as much as you, and definitely not a bunch of narcissistic politicians. 1.00

00:33:53.000 So if you have much faith in the system at all, I think you're the sucker in the room. 0.99

00:34:01.000 Does that mean you should ignore politics? 0.99

00:34:03.000 No, because it's a necessary evil is how I look at it.

00:34:06.000 Do I put, you know, the law of Pareto principle 80-20?

00:34:11.000 I think if you put 20% of your focus on politics and big system, the system and policy, and 80% in doing what you can control,

00:34:23.000 You'll be good.

00:34:23.000 Why do you think people are putting so much focus on the 20%?

00:34:26.000 I mean, it's pretty clear right now people are distracting themselves to an enormous extent with the give and take of politics.

00:34:32.000 People are engaged like they've never been, which is great for my business, but it's not necessarily great for theirs.

00:34:36.000 I mean, if you're spending all your time on Twitter agonizing over whether nuclear war with North Korea is imminent when it clearly is not, then you might be wasting your time.

00:34:43.000 Why do you think people are so interested in engaging with politics, particularly now?

00:34:47.000 I mean, is it a lack of meaning?

00:34:49.000 No, I think it's, well, maybe.

00:34:52.000 I think it's a well-veiled procrastination.

00:34:56.000 It's a well-veiled attempt at procrastination.

00:34:58.000 You just go, well, I could focus on building skills so I can make more money, or I could whine about this person not doing something for me.

00:35:08.000 And it's much easier to do that.

00:35:10.000 Humans are like water.

00:35:12.000 They always move downhill.

00:35:13.000 Whatever is easiest.

00:35:14.000 You don't see much water going.

00:35:15.000 I'm going to go uphill.

00:35:17.000 And so because people procrastinate, they've been looking for external reasons to blame forever.

00:35:24.000 And there are external things.

00:35:25.000 Look, bad childhood.

00:35:27.000 That is an externality.

00:35:28.000 You had no control over who your parents were if you had a traumatic childhood.

00:35:33.000 But at some point, you just grow up and you go, well, I cannot redo that.

00:35:38.000 There is no time machine.

00:35:39.000 So I'm going to pull my pants up, my big boy pants, take the diapers off, and go out and do what I can.

00:35:46.000 And what politics allows you to kind of revert

00:35:48.000 As an adult, you're not blaming your parents.

00:35:50.000 You're blaming Donald Trump.

00:35:52.000 I promise you this.

00:35:53.000 Presidents are less important than people think.

00:35:56.000 They are massively less important.

00:35:59.000 On an individual's life, even more.

00:36:01.000 You could even argue that I think the biggest thing that people should talk about, what interests me in politics and what really moves the needle is demographics.

00:36:09.000 Study demographics.

00:36:10.000 You're going to be able to predict everything.

00:36:12.000 You can predict America's aging.

00:36:15.000 Africa isn't. 0.90

00:36:17.000 Africa has a massive growth rate.

00:36:20.000 I went to India when I only had 600 million people.

00:36:23.000 Now India has 1.1 or 2 billion.

00:36:26.000 Two Americas have grown inside India in our lifetime. 0.97

00:36:31.000 America, the world by 2030 projected to maybe be at 8.5 billion people.

00:36:36.000 It was at 7 billion.

00:36:38.000 What, last year?

00:36:40.000 You're going to grow five Americas on the same set of continents? 0.94

00:36:44.000 What's that going to do?

00:36:45.000 All politics will bend to that.

00:36:48.000 So what do you think the future of politics looks like then?

00:36:50.000 I mean, given the fact that our replacement rates in the United States are low, we're actually higher than most of the industrialized world.

00:36:56.000 The rest of the industrialized world is kind of screwed, which is why they're bringing in tremendous numbers of immigrants. 1.00

00:37:00.000 Where do you think we go here, given the burgeoning debt, the aging population, all the rest of it?

00:37:05.000 Man, Will Durant says nations are born

00:37:09.000 Stoic and die epicurean.

00:37:12.000 Maybe we become epicurean, maybe we will die out in something.

00:37:16.000 I believe in humans in the long run.

00:37:18.000 I think America is still strong.

00:37:21.000 This is not my area of expertise, so I'm going to give you an amateur answer.

00:37:25.000 My amateur answer is we'll survive.

00:37:30.000 The media will focus on a crap load of drama.

00:37:34.000 But there'll be millions of individuals living nice, normal lives with happy families.

00:37:43.000 The main concern I have, I think mental health issues is going up.

00:37:48.000 And if, let's say it's always been bad.

00:37:49.000 Well, my grandma's a hundred, by the way.

00:37:51.000 She was born in Germany.

00:37:52.000 You'll like this story.

00:37:55.000 My grandma was 19 years old.

00:37:58.000 Her friend said, you've got to come hear this guy.

00:38:00.000 He's a great speaker.

00:38:01.000 Her name was Melita Mishman, who wrote a book about this now.

00:38:04.000 It's kind of a famous book.

00:38:05.000 My grandma goes, OK, I'll go see him.

00:38:06.000 They go down to the park.

00:38:08.000 Car pulls up.

00:38:09.000 The top's down.

00:38:10.000 A man stands up, starts yelling.

00:38:12.000 It was Adolf Hitler. 0.74

00:38:14.000 My grandma's 19.

00:38:15.000 She was born in 1918, so I think this is 36 and 37 when he's like Time Magazine Man of the Year.

00:38:21.000 Media got it wrong there.

00:38:24.000 So my grandma goes, this guy's crazy. 0.89

00:38:26.000 I'm leaving. 0.78

00:38:27.000 She goes to her family, says, I think this guy's going to declare war. 1.00

00:38:30.000 He's just a madman. 0.99

00:38:31.000 I heard him talk in the park five feet away from him. 1.00

00:38:34.000 My grandma's family goes, no, no, he'll be fine.

00:38:38.000 He signed a peace with Russia and Poland.

00:38:40.000 He's not going to invade Poland.

00:38:41.000 My grandma goes, I'm leaving anyway.

00:38:43.000 She gets on a boat.

00:38:45.000 As she's on the boat, she comes to America and knows nobody.

00:38:48.000 He declares war and invades Poland as my grandma's crossing the Statue of Liberty. 0.85

00:38:53.000 She comes to America, knows nobody, pulls herself, gets a job as a waitress.

00:38:58.000 Ends up getting a scholarship for college.

00:39:01.000 Her life dream was to go to California.

00:39:02.000 Ends up in California.

00:39:04.000 I like my grandma's story.

00:39:06.000 She had foresight to see.

00:39:09.000 She was able to read people, first of all.

00:39:11.000 That's what I said, the core skill.

00:39:13.000 The man himself, Adolf Hitler, in person.

00:39:15.000 She read. 0.98

00:39:16.000 This guy's insane. 0.96

00:39:17.000 She had foresight, prudence. 0.97

00:39:20.000 She didn't procrastinate. 1.00

00:39:21.000 It's easy to procrastinate.

00:39:22.000 It's hard to leave your country.

00:39:24.000 And so she came here, and she had low anxiety.

00:39:28.000 She was able to overcome fear.

00:39:30.000 That's hard.

00:39:31.000 Fear drives people into the wrong corner.

00:39:34.000 And she overcame that, and I'm here because of that.

00:39:38.000 And so when my grandma was young there, there was maybe a billion people on the planet. 0.69

00:39:44.000 So let's say 1% of people are insane. 0.83

00:39:47.000 For sure, 1% of the population is psychotic.

00:39:50.000 So when you have a billion people, you're talking 10 million psychotic people spread over the whole planet.

00:39:56.000 What happens if the rate still stays at 1%, but you go to 8.5 billion?

00:40:02.000 Now there's 85 million psychopaths.

00:40:04.000 Now, what if also mental health rates, because of the disintegration of role models, family, communities, the Amish have community, now we're, there's too much urban life. 0.71

00:40:15.000 Urban life is not as healthy as you think.

00:40:17.000 I think you come to this city,

00:40:20.000 Thanks for watching.

00:40:39.000 And it used to, when my grandma was born, 90% of the world lived in countryside villages.

00:40:44.000 10% in large cities.

00:40:46.000 It's inverted now.

00:40:47.000 It just, in about 2015, it went the other way.

00:40:50.000 I think mental health has gone up from 1% of people to be whack jobs to like 10%.

00:40:55.000 So, and I'm not even saying this in a judgmental way, like they're bad people.

00:40:59.000 I'm talking about just like diabetes is something you feel bad that someone has.

00:41:03.000 You don't go, haha, you have diabetes.

00:41:04.000 There's people with legitimate, massive amounts.

00:41:08.000 There's so much

00:41:10.000 Anti-anxiety medication being taken.

00:41:13.000 I just read National Geographic.

00:41:15.000 The Great Lakes up Michigan, it's got made its way into the water through basically people peeing in the toilet.

00:41:22.000 Fish are so doped up.

00:41:25.000 They're like have low anxiety and they're not like searching for food anymore.

00:41:29.000 So they're just dying.

00:41:30.000 You got 15 to 30% of people clinically diagnosed with anxiety.

00:41:34.000 What's going to happen to a society?

00:41:36.000 I don't,

00:41:37.000 I think, like I said, we'll survive, but I think that we should refocus on stuff.

00:41:44.000 Fix the education system.

00:41:47.000 Focus more on mental health.

00:41:49.000 Not at a governmental level, but you know, half the battle is just

00:41:54.000 Tell me about it.

00:42:17.000 How do you resolve the tension between

00:42:34.000 The need for freedom that you talked about earlier, this individualistic society that we've created where we want to do what we want without any consequences, and the fact that we do actually need to embed ourselves in social structures that allow for us to thrive because it feels restrictive, but it's also what allows you to thrive in a lot of cases.

00:42:50.000 Yeah, what does Jocko Willick say?

00:42:53.000 Discipline brings freedom.

00:42:54.000 There's more freedom from discipline than you think.

00:42:57.000 I would say, I've gone through different opinions on this.

00:43:00.000 I've come around and I think you're probably right.

00:43:04.000 I think that when I was at the Amish recently, about six months ago, I was walking around and I was like, why am I happier?

00:43:11.000 And I was like, I know why.

00:43:14.000 Bounded rationality.

00:43:15.000 So there's this concept.

00:43:17.000 In science, in psychology, heuristics it's called, how you make decisions.

00:43:23.000 Bounded rationality means, if you want to go get sushi restaurant, food, someone says to you, your wife or husband, let's go eat.

00:43:32.000 If you couldn't put bounds on it, you'll go crazy.

00:43:34.000 You know how many sushi restaurants there are in Los Angeles?

00:43:37.000 You know, if you went, okay, which one should we go to?

00:43:40.000 Should we go to the one in Whittier, Long Beach?

00:43:43.000 So we immediately put one boundary on it, within five miles of our house.

00:43:48.000 Then we put another boundary on it.

00:43:49.000 Okay, Yelp reviews need to be three stars or higher.

00:43:53.000 So that puts another set of walls on it.

00:43:55.000 Then we put the last one.

00:43:56.000 It needs to be open now.

00:43:58.000 Boom.

00:43:59.000 And now it narrows it down to two places.

00:44:01.000 And our happiness goes up because we don't have that many choices.

00:44:05.000 One of my mentors is the guy who wrote Paradox of Choice.

00:44:08.000 I don't know if you've read that book.

00:44:09.000 He's a famous professor.

00:44:10.000 It's a fascinating book.

00:44:12.000 He says the reason we're becoming less happy is we have too much choice.

00:44:16.000 You still only have choices.

00:44:17.000 Like Amish, you basically marry a girl that you grew up with. 0.99

00:44:20.000 There's 10 or 20 choices.

00:44:22.000 You have some choice, but it's not Tinder, where you go insane.

00:44:27.000 And if we don't have bounds on our rationality, you become more unhappy.

00:44:31.000 And I've been testing this recently.

00:44:33.000 I'm in LA.

00:44:34.000 I have the whole world in front of me.

00:44:36.000 I can do this.

00:44:38.000 And then I go to the farm where it's kind of like, I need to wake up at five in the morning.

00:44:44.000 I dress a certain, you know, it's more conservative.

00:44:46.000 And all these boundaries actually make me feel better.

00:44:50.000 Let's talk about how you structure your day because you have a lot of advice for folks on sort of how to live, what's the most successful way to live.

00:44:57.000 How do you structure your day?

00:44:58.000 I mean, again, I see you walking around.

00:44:59.000 You have a huge crew.

00:45:01.000 You've got a camera on you all the time.

00:45:03.000 You travel a lot.

00:45:05.000 You're providing all these materials at your website, TyeLopez.com.

00:45:08.000 So how do you structure that day?

00:45:10.000 How do you decide how much is fun, how much is work, and where do the two cross over?

00:45:14.000 Give me a schedule.

00:45:16.000 So I think daily routine is important.

00:45:18.000 I think the first thing for everybody that I follow, that everyone can read, is a great book by Gary Keller called The One Thing.

00:45:26.000 It's the power of focus.

00:45:27.000 First thing I try to do is go, okay, Tye, there's too much to do.

00:45:33.000 What's the one domino I push today that knocks down like a hundred dominoes?

00:45:38.000 Because I do not want to push down a hundred one at a time.

00:45:40.000 I got to hit one huge one that's real heavy and it knocks everyone down.

00:45:44.000 So I think you have to know what your superpower is and do that 80% of the day.

00:45:49.000 I used to believe in, you know, task management systems and Excel spreadsheets and you prioritize and you flip and every 15 minutes you do a new thing and you do, there's a thing, you know, there's all these different tools that people put forward to be productive and successful.

00:46:03.000 But I started studying people.

00:46:04.000 I'm like, what does Warren Buffett do?

00:46:06.000 This guy owns 100 of the largest brands in the world, from Amex, Bank of America, you know.

00:46:13.000 I'm going, what is this guy, Geico, what is he doing?

00:46:16.000 And he says, simple, I spend eight hours a day reading about investment deals, 800 pages a day, that's it.

00:46:25.000 He goes, you wanna see my, he has a little day planner, he loves to show it, he's like 88.

00:46:28.000 He goes, you wanna see my day planner, what I have scheduled this month?

00:46:31.000 And he just laughs, because there's nothing for eight months on there.

00:46:35.000 So, I think the first thing is, read that book by Gary Keller.

00:46:38.000 The second thing, if I was advising my younger self, the second thing is, less is more.

00:46:46.000 Do not confuse flurries of activity with accomplishment.

00:46:50.000 Activity and accomplishment both start with an A, but they are unrelated.

00:46:54.000 I have friends that just, oh my God.

00:46:56.000 In fact, I've found the poorer my friend is,

00:47:01.000 If I'm like, hey, can you come help me move?

00:47:04.000 I gotta move.

00:47:04.000 They're like, dude, I'm just so busy.

00:47:06.000 I'm like, you've been unemployed for six months.

00:47:09.000 You have nothing.

00:47:10.000 You're lying.

00:47:11.000 You have Game of Thrones to watch or whatever.

00:47:13.000 But the reason, and it's causation correlation.

00:47:16.000 I'm like, wait a second.

00:47:18.000 I think the reason they're in what they're in, no one ever taught them how to be productive.

00:47:24.000 And so they keep themselves busy with flurries of activity, but none of it moves the needle on life.

00:47:29.000 And life, you got only four things, I think.

00:47:31.000 I call them the four pillars of the good life.

00:47:33.000 Health, wealth, love, happiness.

00:47:35.000 Physical health.

00:47:36.000 So what I do, this is my third point of being productive.

00:47:39.000 I just think those are in order.

00:47:42.000 So I try to do workout first.

00:47:45.000 Health.

00:47:46.000 You know, I've gotten to know Arnold Schwarzenegger a little bit, not super well, but I was in his kitchen and did like a 45 minute talk with him and I went to Australia a couple months ago, give a talk with him and I asked him this and he goes, I wake up at four in the morning, Ty, I read for one hour, five in the morning I ride my bike to the gym, by seven I've read an hour and I've got, you know,

00:48:12.000 I've got a two-hour workout in and eating breakfast.

00:48:15.000 That's a productive guy by seven in the morning.

00:48:19.000 And so you do your health first.

00:48:21.000 Then wealth is usually people's career.

00:48:24.000 I like to do it in the day.

00:48:26.000 Then health, wealth, love.

00:48:28.000 To me, love is friends, family, romance.

00:48:31.000 Those three parts component of love.

00:48:33.000 So at night, I pretty much do something social every night.

00:48:37.000 And then I say, if you do the first three pillars, happiness comes automatically.

00:48:42.000 You got to balance those first three.

00:48:44.000 So do them in that order.

00:48:45.000 I meet people that spend all day socializing with friends and they, you know, entrepreneurs, they put off their work or people who put health and they lift weights.

00:48:53.000 Oh, I'm going to get it in before I go to bed.

00:48:55.000 No, do it first.

00:48:56.000 That's the order.

00:48:57.000 If you don't have health, you won't care about wealth, love or happiness.

00:49:01.000 Because you'll be in pain.

00:49:02.000 For me, the biggest thing that I've realized, and this is a real change from earlier in my career, is when I was a lot younger, the tendency was to say yes to everything.

00:49:10.000 So people want to get together, people want to offer you something to do for a career, you always say yes.

00:49:15.000 Because you're so eager to get going that you just say yes.

00:49:17.000 And it turns out that if you want to do work for free, then there's lots of work to be done for free.

00:49:22.000 And then I started to realize that the more I said no, the more successful I was becoming.

00:49:26.000 Because number one, it creates scarcity in the market.

00:49:28.000 Number two,

00:49:28.000 We're good to go.

00:49:46.000 It's a 45-minute phone call.

00:49:47.000 Not because it takes 45 minutes, but because it takes you 15 minutes to get into it, 15 minutes to get out of it, and by the time you can get on to the next thing, you've wasted an hour.

00:49:54.000 So when you talk about the day planner, the most productive days that I've had are days when basically I get my work done in the morning and then I've got all day to do the stuff that I really want to get done for sure.

00:50:05.000 You know a good bonus tip I'd give if I was advising myself again at 18?

00:50:10.000 Take catch-up vacations.

00:50:12.000 So Bill Gates loves to read, but he was running, you know, the 17-time richest man in the world.

00:50:17.000 He had a lot of responsibilities.

00:50:19.000 He took vacations on set intervals.

00:50:21.000 I don't know if it was once a quarter or once every six months.

00:50:24.000 And he brought all the books that he couldn't read that he wanted to.

00:50:28.000 And he would go through 17 books in a week.

00:50:32.000 I like to do these mini breaks.

00:50:33.000 I usually use Palm Springs.

00:50:34.000 I recommend you go at least an hour and a half from home.

00:50:37.000 It can be drivable.

00:50:38.000 Doesn't have to be expensive.

00:50:40.000 Get a cheap hotel.

00:50:41.000 It can be a little family vacation.

00:50:43.000 I go to a relatively inexpensive place and I just bring a stack of yellow notepads where I'm writing out my plans.

00:50:49.000 You gotta be the general of your own life.

00:50:51.000 A good general goes in the war room.

00:50:53.000 You can't always have flurries of activity.

00:50:56.000 You gotta work not just in the business, you have to step back and work on it.

00:51:01.000 And so I bring my yellow notepads, I bring books, I bring no itinerary, and I just catch up.

00:51:08.000 And I think you should do it once a month.

00:51:10.000 And you can do it in one day.

00:51:11.000 And that one day will pay off by making the other 29 days of the month at least 50% more productive.

00:51:18.000 So where do you want to be in 10 years?

00:51:19.000 You asked me earlier.

00:51:20.000 So where do you want to be in 10 years?

00:51:22.000 You're looking at your career and

00:51:23.000 Happier, baby.

00:51:24.000 I think you always should try to be happier.

00:51:26.000 I think.

00:51:27.000 So when are you getting married?

00:51:31.000 That's a good question.

00:51:33.000 You know, it's funny.

00:51:34.000 So you knew the grilling was coming.

00:51:35.000 It was just a matter of time.

00:51:36.000 I knew that was coming.

00:51:37.000 I think it's hard for me to get married sometimes because I had half my foot in the Amish world and country world and half my foot in Los Angeles.

00:51:46.000 So it's like every time I meet a girl in L.A.

00:51:47.000 that fits in in L.A., I'm like, here, come to the farm.

00:51:50.000 And they're like, uh-oh, I don't like this.

00:51:53.000 And every time I meet a girl

00:51:55.000 Who's in the countryside and likes horses and like, I got 16 horses and all this stuff and likes to work.

00:52:01.000 And then I'm like, let's go to LA.

00:52:02.000 They're like, Oh, I hate LA.

00:52:05.000 So I don't know, man.

00:52:06.000 I got my foot in two different worlds.

00:52:08.000 Maybe that's maybe, maybe don't do that.

00:52:11.000 Uh,

00:52:13.000 So I don't know.

00:52:13.000 I don't know.

00:52:14.000 Well, we've got something that's on the list then.

00:52:15.000 We've got to fix you up.

00:52:16.000 There we go.

00:52:17.000 A very Jewish thing. 0.92

00:52:18.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:52:19.000 I get you involved in a religious community and fix you up. 1.00

00:52:21.000 There we go.

00:52:22.000 So let's talk about religion for a second.

00:52:23.000 We briefly touched on it before.

00:52:24.000 So where are you on religion?

00:52:25.000 You mentioned you're a Richard Dawkins fan, so that gives you some indication.

00:52:29.000 But where are you on God and religion?

00:52:31.000 But you spend a lot of time with the Amish, obviously.

00:52:34.000 You know, I like the Amish.

00:52:35.000 I thought that for Christians, this is going to offend a lot of people, but they're real Christians.

00:52:41.000 And I don't think I ever met that before, like people who actually, like Jesus Christ says, you know, if somebody slaps you on one cheek, turn the other.

00:52:49.000 So they're all pacifists.

00:52:51.000 Now, I'm not saying I'm not a pacifist, but I like respect people who... You fight MMA, I mean.

00:52:56.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:52:58.000 They're not hypocrites.

00:52:59.000 So I like that.

00:53:00.000 If I would be Christian, I would probably be some version of that. 0.93

00:53:04.000 Oh, this is a tough question.

00:53:06.000 You're one of the only people I ever asked me this, that I let ask me this, so a lot of people are gonna go right to this part of the podcast.

00:53:14.000 I would say that I think religion's good.

00:53:22.000 It's better than most people think.

00:53:24.000 So even though I have a complicated view, I don't think most people should have a complicated view.

00:53:31.000 I think it's good to believe stuff

00:53:34.000 And I do think it's okay to read Richard Dawkins and it doesn't have to make you lose your faith.

00:53:40.000 Even the smartest people in the world, even Stephen Hawking level people believe in weird things like multi-level, I mean not multi-level, multi-universe theory.

00:53:53.000 So the thought that there's this spiritual thing going on and there's a God, it's kind of scientific in a way.

00:54:04.000 In order to make spirituality work, and I think why it doesn't work maybe from, it hasn't worked at certain times in my life and for friends that I watch, if you don't, remember that hamster bubble?

00:54:14.000 If your religion lets too loose of a group into it, you will get disenfranchised, you will get disenchanted with the group.

00:54:24.000 So if you can pick, maybe it's what you have, small group of people,

00:54:30.000 that really do what they say they're gonna do, then you can stick with it for a long time.

00:54:35.000 I think, you know, you look at big megachurches in America, in Christian churches, and people go there, and halfway through it, they're like, wait a second, I know this person out here, Monday through Friday, they're out drinking and, you know, carrying on, and then on Sunday I see them and they're very spiritual.

00:54:51.000 That messes with people's brains.

00:54:53.000 So I think if you can find a non-hypocritical group of people,

00:54:59.000 I mean, I grew up Judeo-Christian.

00:55:07.000 I'm more Judeo-Christian.

00:55:09.000 It's funny, even if you try to not be Judeo-Christian, if you grew up Judeo-Christian, you kind of are.

00:55:15.000 Yeah.

00:55:16.000 He grew up in America.

00:55:16.000 I mean, America's a Judeo-Christian country.

00:55:18.000 Exactly.

00:55:19.000 I had this conversation with Sam Harris sitting in that chair.

00:55:21.000 I was saying to him, now Sam, it's very weird because Sam, of course, is a militant atheist.

00:55:27.000 And I was saying to him, it's weird that you and I share 95% of the same values.

00:55:31.000 Why is it that we share those values?

00:55:33.000 And he gave a bunch of reasons why he believed what he believed.

00:55:35.000 I said, well, probably it has more to do with the fact we grew up 10 miles from each other in Los Angeles after 3,000 years of common history.

00:55:41.000 Probably it's that.

00:55:42.000 And I certainly agree with that. 0.96

00:55:44.000 Okay, so from the divine to ridiculous. 0.91

00:55:46.000 You engage in culture as well. 0.95

00:55:47.000 Yes.

00:55:48.000 So give me your favorite cultural totems, like TV and movies.

00:55:52.000 What's the stuff you like to watch?

00:55:53.000 Oh, movies.

00:55:54.000 Man, I like basketball.

00:55:56.000 Oh, really?

00:55:56.000 You're a sports guy?

00:55:57.000 I love basketball.

00:55:57.000 Believe it or not, yeah, I played at one of the top high schools in the U.S.

00:56:02.000 and won a couple state championships in North Carolina.

00:56:04.000 So basketball is my thing.

00:56:06.000 Yeah, one of my favorite things about kind of

00:56:09.000 I got 100 million people that watch my videos every year.

00:56:12.000 Probably the coolest thing is I've made friends with a lot of NBA guys because they watch my videos.

00:56:19.000 Achieving some level of status is only good if the people you admire admire you back.

00:56:26.000 Getting status with the wrong group is not exciting.

00:56:28.000 Who's the coolest person that you found out was a fan of your show?

00:56:31.000 This is one of the cool experiences I've had.

00:56:33.000 You're sitting around and suddenly you get an email from somebody like, wow, that's kind of neat.

00:56:36.000 Yeah, some of the Lakers, some of the Clippers.

00:56:39.000 I've become good friends with Chris Paul.

00:56:41.000 I just did a little thing with him, you know.

00:56:46.000 I was at a Laker game and I walked up to Kevin Hart, the comedian, and I was just going to talk to him.

00:56:52.000 He goes, I did this viral video.

00:56:54.000 I gave away 11 cars to people over last year.

00:56:59.000 And so he came up to me and he goes,

00:57:02.000 For kicking away cars, Ty, you should give away a house!

00:57:05.000 So he already had watched my videos.

00:57:07.000 I thought that was kind of funny.

00:57:09.000 Rihanna.

00:57:10.000 I did a little interview with Rihanna.

00:57:13.000 I like basketball, cultural totems.

00:57:15.000 I actually like film.

00:57:18.000 It's funny.

00:57:19.000 I went 10 years, didn't watch any movies. 1.00

00:57:22.000 I thought it was for idiots. 1.00

00:57:23.000 And now I'm like, you know what? 1.00

00:57:25.000 There's a value in being able to escape reality.

00:57:29.000 I've produced a little bit of movies.

00:57:30.000 I've dipped my hand in that.

00:57:32.000 I wouldn't mind.

00:57:33.000 You know what?

00:57:35.000 A powerful movie impacts people more than you think.

00:57:40.000 Especially a powerful series like A Game of Thrones.

00:57:42.000 I think the way they should teach history in school

00:57:46.000 And I love books.

00:57:47.000 Forget books.

00:57:49.000 Get these badass, you know, series.

00:57:52.000 They have one called Rome.

00:57:53.000 I think HBO... Yes, on HBO a few years back, yeah.

00:57:56.000 Man, you'll remember more about Roman Empire by watching that.

00:57:59.000 I just watched one on the story of the Trojan Horse.

00:58:03.000 And I mean, I'm like, why didn't they teach me this in school?

00:58:05.000 And I'm like, they probably did.

00:58:07.000 But no one will ever remember that.

00:58:08.000 A Good Civil War? 0.90

00:58:10.000 Movie?

00:58:11.000 You'll remember the Civil War.

00:58:13.000 In school, they make you memorize 18 whatever, 61 to 65.

00:58:15.000 I'm going, or is it 1860 to 64, 61 to 65?

00:58:16.000 61 to 65.

00:58:16.000 Okay, 61.

00:58:16.000 I was right the first time.

00:58:17.000 And I'm going, who cares?

00:58:26.000 Let's do it.

00:58:45.000 We're good to go.

00:59:02.000 The World War I was still going on.

00:59:05.000 Yeah, it's wild.

00:59:05.000 She's born in February 20, 1918.

00:59:06.000 Oh, good.

00:59:07.000 You have some good genes on you.

00:59:10.000 Yeah, I don't know, but I don't know if I'll be as healthy as my grandma.

00:59:12.000 She's old school.

00:59:13.000 She's tough.

00:59:14.000 She fights MMA, too?

00:59:15.000 You know what my grandma does? 1.00

00:59:16.000 She's 97.

00:59:17.000 Three years ago, she was 97.

00:59:20.000 And I go to visit her in San Diego.

00:59:23.000 She comes out with a little aerobics outfit and she had a headband on. 0.91

00:59:26.000 I'm like, Grandma, where are you going?

00:59:27.000 She goes, I have Zumba class.

00:59:29.000 And she goes, I'm going with all the younger ladies. 0.99

00:59:32.000 And I was thinking, is my grandma going in a class with like 25-year-olds?

00:59:36.000 So I looked it up, her little YMCA class was 65+.

00:59:39.000 But when you're 97, she's like, I'm going with the young ladies.

00:59:43.000 So I hope, I told you how I would curse my enemies, bless my enemies, may you be doing Zumba at 97.

00:59:50.000 Exactly.

00:59:51.000 Like my grandma.

00:59:52.000 Well, Tai Lopez, thanks so much for stopping by.

00:59:54.000 It's really a pleasure.

00:59:55.000 That's an hour that flew.

00:59:56.000 So TaiLopez.com, go check his stuff out.

00:59:58.000 And he's got a ton of great stuff there.

01:00:00.000 Also, you can check out TaiLopez.com slash Ben Shapiro.

01:00:02.000 And then they put up a landing page so they can see who shows up.

01:00:06.000 Go check it out.

01:00:06.000 TaiLopez.com.

01:00:07.000 Tai, thanks so much for stopping by.

01:00:08.000 Thanks for having me.

01:00:09.000 I appreciate it.

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Tai Lopez | The Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special Ep. 14

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