The Ben Shapiro Show - September 16, 2025


TERROR NETWORK? More Suspects May Be Coming in Kirk Assassination…


Episode Stats

Length

51 minutes

Words per Minute

177.29922

Word Count

9,125

Sentence Count

587

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

Former Vice President Charlie Kirk was a loving husband and father who devoted his life to his family and served his country with honor and distinction. He was a devoted son, husband, and father. On the morning of January 20th, a gunman opened fire in Kirk's own home, killing him and injuring his family. The White House paid tribute to him and called for unity in the wake of his murder.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Well, folks, as we've been talking about, there's an enormous amount of bad news happening in the world, obviously.
00:00:06.000 A group of horrifying people apparently were not only celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder, but we now have evidence that there are people who may in fact have been thinking about a betting in Charlie's murder, and we'll get to all that in a minute, but I want to start off with the uplifting, because the truth is that the legacy that Charlie leaves, the thing that he leaves behind, is a massive group of people, all of whom are interested in forwarding his legacy and making his voice even bigger.
00:00:34.000 One of those people is, of course, the vice president of the United States, Charlie Kirk and the Vice President were very, very close.
00:00:40.000 In fact, the vice president had tweeted out that Charlie was very involved in him becoming the vice president in the first place.
00:00:45.000 He'd become personal friends, Charlie did with the vice president when he was in the Senate.
00:00:49.000 And then he had essentially mentioned to the Trump family and to President Trump that JD would make a great vice president.
00:00:55.000 So yesterday, JD actually did Charlie's podcast, which is unprecedented, right?
00:01:00.000 Having a sitting vice president of the United States filling in on the show of someone else.
00:01:06.000 I've never heard of anything like that.
00:01:08.000 JD did a fabulous job.
00:01:10.000 He opened by paying tribute to Charlie Kirk.
00:01:14.000 JD Vance here, live from my office in the White House complex and filling in for somebody who cannot be filled in for, but I'm going to try to do my best, my dear friend, the great Charlie Kirk.
00:01:25.000 The last several days have been extremely hard for our country.
00:01:29.000 They've been hard for me, hard for my family, hard for the countless people in this building who knew and loved Charlie Kirk, and of course, they've been hardest most of all for his darling wife Erica and their two beautiful children.
00:01:44.000 The thing is, every single person in this building, we owe something to Charlie.
00:01:50.000 He was a joyful warrior for our country.
00:01:53.000 He loved America.
00:01:54.000 He devoted himself tirelessly to making our country a better place.
00:01:59.000 He was a critical part of getting Donald Trump elected as president, getting me elected as vice president.
00:02:05.000 And so much of our success over the last seven months is due to his efforts, his staffing, his support, and his friendship.
00:02:12.000 And JD spent a lot of time with various members of the cabinet, parts of the Trump administration talking about Charlie.
00:02:19.000 But he had a couple of, I think, very relevant messages, considering how many people have been coming out of the woodwork and legitimately celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk.
00:02:27.000 He said, Listen, I'm hearing a lot of people in the media talking about unity, talking about who we need to get together and have a kumbaya moment.
00:02:33.000 And listen, unity is a good thing with people who are willing to reach across the aisle and engage in normal discussions and conversations.
00:02:42.000 But if you are celebrating assassination, if you are celebrating murder, there can be no unity with you.
00:02:47.000 The vice president is totally right about this.
00:02:50.000 There is no unity with people who scream at children over their parents' politics.
00:02:56.000 There is no unity with someone who lies about what Charlie Kirk said in order to excuse his murder.
00:03:02.000 There is no unity with someone who harasses an innocent family the day after the father of that family lost a dear friend.
00:03:10.000 There is no unity with the people who celebrate Charlie Kirk's assassination.
00:03:15.000 And there is no unity with the people who fund these articles, who pay the salaries of these terrorist sympathizers who argue that Charlie Kirk, a loving husband and father, deserved a shot to the neck because he spoke words with which they disagree.
00:03:32.000 I mean, can't say it better than that.
00:03:34.000 The vice president of the United States also said that we have to be honest about who's been financing these movements, who is celebrating, who is cheering.
00:03:43.000 Because those are people with whom you cannot have disagreements.
00:03:46.000 You cannot engage in a democratic republic with people who cheer if you get murdered.
00:03:50.000 You can't.
00:03:55.000 Did you know that the George Soros Open Society Foundation and the Ford Foundation, the groups who funded that disgusting article justifying Charlie's death, do you know they benefit from generous tax treatment?
00:04:07.000 They are literally subsidized by you and me, the American taxpayer, and how do they reward us?
00:04:14.000 By setting fire to the house built by the American family over 250 years.
00:04:20.000 I am desperate for our country to be united in condemnation of the actions and the ideas that killed my friend.
00:04:27.000 I want it so badly that I will Tell you a difficult truth.
00:04:32.000 We can only have it with people who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable, and when we work to dismantle the institutions that promote violence and terrorism in our own country.
00:04:46.000 Okay, and that last point is going to come up in a little while when we discuss those systems, because it turns out there are legitimately groups out there that foment violence.
00:04:54.000 Now, again, I want to begin with the inspiring here because Charlie leaves extraordinary legacy behind him.
00:05:00.000 When Charlie's boots cannot be filled, under any circumstances, chair cannot be filled.
00:05:04.000 Everyone knows this.
00:05:05.000 It's going to require all of us to pick up where where Charlie left off.
00:05:10.000 I mean, that that's now everyone's job.
00:05:12.000 I was at the airport yesterday, and a person walked up to me and said, You know, thanks for what you're doing.
00:05:19.000 I said, No, no, thanks for what you're going to do, because we all have to get in this fight together.
00:05:23.000 It's the only way.
00:05:24.000 Charlie was such a seminal figure, he was so important a figure, he was such an effective activist and fighter.
00:05:29.000 It's going to take everybody getting involved.
00:05:32.000 Well, you can see that all over the globe, not just in the United States, all over the globe, people are celebrating Charlie's memory.
00:05:39.000 People are trying to pick up the baton.
00:05:41.000 Tommy Robinson over in the UK, who is led the movement against the infiltration of the UK by third world people who do not like the British way of life.
00:05:50.000 He led thousands of people in the UK in a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk.
00:05:55.000 Charlie's family, we will pray for you.
00:05:58.000 And we hope we honor his life.
00:06:00.000 And you'll know when the minute's up.
00:06:03.000 Because the bagpipes will play.
00:06:04.000 See thousands of people in the UK.
00:06:18.000 As I'm in a country that Charlie was from, celebrating him.
00:06:22.000 Here's an aerial view, by the way, of the March to Unite the Kingdom, which again is the march that paid homage to Charlie.
00:06:31.000 Here are people chanting Charlie's name while carrying the Union Jack.
00:06:35.000 *Cheering*
00:06:40.000 Charlie, Charlie, Charlie!
00:06:45.000 Charlie!
00:06:51.000 That assassin's bullet did not squash, did not kill Charlie Kirk's voice.
00:06:56.000 It only made it bigger.
00:06:58.000 It only spread it more broadly.
00:07:00.000 In South Korea, South Koreans were chanting on behalf of Charlie Kirk.
00:07:08.000 We are chanting, We are Charlie Kirk in South Korea, in South Korea, where Charlie had recently visited.
00:07:21.000 Meanwhile, prime ministers of foreign nations, presidents of foreign nations, paying homage to Charlie Kirk, George Maloney over in Italy, points out that the only reason to shoot somebody is because you fear people who have better arguments than you.
00:07:34.000 simply sitting in public She says he would sit in public and allow anyone to challenge him.
00:07:45.000 Because he was convinced of his ideas.
00:07:50.000 He did it with a smile on his face, he did it with respect.
00:07:53.000 And he was killed for it.
00:07:55.000 Because when you have no arguments, you fear those who do.
00:07:59.000 I've seen it happen many times.
00:08:00.000 That is George Maloney of Italy.
00:08:02.000 Meanwhile, Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, of course, Charlie was perhaps the foremost defender of Israel on college campuses.
00:08:11.000 You can go back and watch copious, copious numbers of videos of him defending the state of Israel, particularly in the face of the terrorism of Hamas in the October 7th war.
00:08:21.000 Here is Benjamin Netanyahu reading Charlie Kirk's letter that he sent to him about defending Judeo-Christian civilization.
00:08:29.000 He wrote me a letter on May 2nd this year.
00:08:33.000 He said, One of my greatest joys as a Christian is advocating for Israel and forming alliances to defend Judeo-Christian civilization.
00:08:42.000 A few weeks before the tragedy yesterday, I called him and I spoke to him and I said, please come to Israel.
00:08:50.000 I invited him to Israel.
00:08:52.000 And sadly, that visit will not take place.
00:08:55.000 But he was he was a defender of our common Judeo-Christian civilization.
00:08:59.000 He was unbelievably excited to walk at the footsteps of Jesus here.
00:09:04.000 He uh he valued our bond, the bond between America and Israel.
00:09:08.000 That is why there are gigantic monuments popping up to Charlie Kirk in Israel.
00:09:11.000 There's a square in Natanya, which is one of the northern coastal cities that's now being named for Charlie Kirk.
00:09:16.000 Now, new details are emerging about the shooter in this particular case.
00:09:22.000 The suspect appeared to have confessed in a Discord chat, according to the Washington Post.
00:09:27.000 According to two people familiar with the chat and screenshots obtained by the Washington Post, he said, quote, hey guys, I have bad news for you all.
00:09:33.000 It was me at UVU yesterday.
00:09:35.000 I'm sorry, for all of this.
00:09:37.000 A member of the group chat shared an image of the conversation with the post and confirmed it came from the shooter's accounts.
00:09:43.000 The person spoke on the condition of anonymity and a fear of harassment.
00:09:47.000 Discord provided a copy of the message with the confession to the authorities, according to a person familiar with the company's interaction with law enforcement.
00:09:55.000 And meanwhile, we now have some fairly shocking reports about exactly what led to all of this.
00:10:04.000 According to FBI Deputy Director Dan Bangino, he believes that it's pretty clear what led to this.
00:10:11.000 Quote, I think it's pretty clear based on the statements of family members, friends, and some of the messaging we have on these digital footprints left behind that Robinson, Tyler Robinson, the shooter, clearly had some obsession with Charlie Kirk.
00:10:20.000 Bonchino said, Charlie's obviously a conservative commentator.
00:10:23.000 I think it's fairly obvious to everyone out there.
00:10:25.000 There's no need to parse words with it, that clearly this was an ideologically motivated attack.
00:10:29.000 But Dan went even further.
00:10:31.000 He actually said, It appears that there were people who may have known in advance that Tyler Robinson was going to do this.
00:10:37.000 Here's what Dan Bongino, deputy director of the FBI, had to say.
00:10:40.000 There appear to have been multiple warning signs.
00:10:44.000 You just laid out some of them.
00:10:45.000 There were people in his network, friends and family, who had stated that he had become more political, that he had become at some parts, I believe some of his co-workers had stated that he had kind of detached himself when the topic of politics came up and walked away from them.
00:11:05.000 Family members said he'd become more political, leading us to believe that this ideology had infected him and had taken over.
00:11:14.000 And he was just intent, it appears, from the data we've accumulated and the channel and that note, which we have some evidence may have existed before based on the communications in that channel, that his target was obviously going to be Charlie and that people knew in advance.
00:11:32.000 The question is, again, I just want to go back to what you had asked before.
00:11:35.000 Did they know, were they sure of this, or did they hear this and just write it off?
00:11:41.000 That's what we're going to have to find out.
00:11:42.000 And that is a huge question, because obviously there are loosely associated or tightly associated groups of transgender-oriented, left-wing, political, ex-Mormon furries.
00:11:58.000 I mean, like, it's a bizarre melange, apparently.
00:12:01.000 I mean, I was told by my own security today, actually, that some members of groups that have been associated with the investigation that's currently ongoing, have been issuing threats to other public figures, myself included.
00:12:13.000 According to Aaron Saberium over at the Free Beacon, the Federal Bureau of Investigation is investigating social media posts by at least seven different accounts that appeared to indicate foreknowledge of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, according to three people familiar with the investigation, as well as screenshots obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.
00:12:29.000 The post, one of which referenced the date of Kirk's assassination, September 10th, more than a month before it took place, were all deleted in the days following the killing.
00:12:38.000 Several of the accounts appear to belong to transgender individuals.
00:12:41.000 At least one of them followed suspect Tyler Robinson's roommate with whom Robinson was allegedly in a relationship on TikTok.
00:12:47.000 The FBI has received archived copies of the posts, according to a person who flagged them for the agency.
00:12:52.000 Screenshots of the post have been circulating online.
00:12:55.000 They had not been previously authenticated.
00:12:58.000 While the post don't establish that the individuals knew or conspired with the shooter, several of them mentioned Charlie Kirk by name and fantasize about him dying, quote.
00:13:10.000 One ex account posted on September 3rd.
00:13:14.000 Another account posted on August 6th, more than a month before the shooting, that, quote, September 10th will be a very interesting day.
00:13:19.000 After Kirk's assassination, the account followed up, quote, I plead the fifth.
00:13:23.000 That morbid quip was reposted by an account called Churboom75M, who appears to follow Robinson's roommate, Lance Twiggs, on TikTok, where Twiggs'username is Lance Lottel.
00:13:38.000 Minutes after Kirk was pronounced dead, Churboom75M posted on X, quote, we effing did it.
00:13:45.000 Thank you.
00:13:45.000 Several of the accounts under investigation appeared to be associated with LGBT subcultures.
00:13:51.000 One individual, Osamu bin Tizuku, used the X handle, Fujo Shin Cell, a reference to the genre of anime that depicts romantic relationships between men.
00:14:01.000 Another user who had wished death to Kirk and predicted something big will happen, had identified as non-binary on X. Apparently, a video posted on TikTok the night before the shooting, an individual who appears to be transgender wrote, quote, Charles James Kirk does not know what's coming tomorrow.
00:14:20.000 And then added, this isn't a threat, it's a promise.
00:14:26.000 I mean, it would have been one hell of a coincidence if those were not people who were coordinating or hearing about this or had a feeling this was going to happen and said nothing about it.
00:14:36.000 Now, it may not be a crime for them to have stayed silent beforehand, but if you delete evidence that you stayed silent beforehand, that actually could theoretically be obstruction of justice.
00:14:45.000 Okay, bottom line is that there are very dangerous cells of people who are associated with fringe acts and who believe themselves to be victims and therefore are willing to legitimize violence and or help it out.
00:14:59.000 Shear anon.
00:15:01.000 Cash Patel, the head of the FBI, he says that it's pretty clear who did this, the DNA from the tail and a screwdriver that were found with the rifle match the DNA of the shooter.
00:15:12.000 And what we learned was there was evidence, DNA evidence that could be collected and had been collected, including a screwdriver that was found on the rooftop.
00:15:21.000 Also, we went over to the scene in the wooded area where the firearm was discarded, and the firearm had a towel wrapped around it.
00:15:29.000 It's important.
00:15:29.000 I'll get back to that later.
00:15:31.000 I even walked into the wooded area in the ravine, so I knew from my investigative experience what I could bring to the table and what decisions I needed to make.
00:15:39.000 And having the support of President Trump and the full support of the White House was what we needed for these resources to happen.
00:15:45.000 And I can report today that the DNA hits from the towel that was wrapped around the firearm and the DNA on the screwdriver are positively processed for the suspect in custody.
00:15:58.000 Meanwhile, Patel also said that we have a note in which he said he was going to do it.
00:16:05.000 His family has collectively told investigators that he subscribed to left-wing ideology, and even more so in these last couple of years.
00:16:16.000 And he uh had a text message exchange, he, the suspect with another individual, in which he claimed that he had an opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and he was going to do it because of his hatred for what Charlie stood for.
00:16:30.000 That are those are factually accurate investigatory findings by the FBI that we've handed over to the local authorities and the federal authorities to make their prosecutorial decisions.
00:16:41.000 Now the reaction from the left has come in a variety of forms.
00:16:44.000 Form number one is just denying that this is even happening, denying there's any association with left-wing causes or ideologies for the shooter, just pretending that none of this is happening.
00:16:55.000 So, for example, former Homeland Security official Donald Harvin said on CNN that actually the law enforcement and Spencer Cox, the governor of Utah, should not have shared information about the trans lover living with the shooter.
00:17:08.000 Because, you know, it's not helpful.
00:17:10.000 And by helpful, he means not helpful to covering up the ideology of the shooter.
00:17:15.000 I wonder what you make of the reporting that uh the suspect was carrying on a romantic relationship with a roommate who happens to be transgender, and how that is now being spun to suggest that that has something to do with this.
00:17:30.000 At this point, it's unclear that it does, but how do investigators determine that?
00:17:37.000 Oh, the first thing I want to be on record saying is that I I think that's not not only helpful for the for the um investigation to put that out, but it's not really helpful for the the tone and tenor of the radicalization of our country right now.
00:17:50.000 Uh, we've seen time and time again over the last year how uh people of the trans community have been blamed for a whole host of things.
00:17:56.000 And so I think that putting that out there, and if you look Online, like I do, you see a lot of people picking that up on the far right.
00:18:02.000 They're looking to demonize and blame trans people.
00:18:05.000 It's not helpful.
00:18:06.000 Well, I mean, knowledge is helpful.
00:18:09.000 Knowing things is helpful.
00:18:10.000 Looking at trans ideology as a whole and deciding whether or not it bubbles with violence.
00:18:15.000 That's helpful, I feel like.
00:18:16.000 I feel like targeting incel furry ex-Mormon violent group that that might be helpful.
00:18:24.000 I feel I feel like there's something that's helpful.
00:18:26.000 Like you don't seem like a very maybe this is why you're a former homeland security official.
00:18:30.000 Meanwhile, MSNBC criminologist Casey Jordan said, you know, there's really no theme to the writings that were on the bullet casings.
00:18:37.000 There are there were there were actually there are no themes at all.
00:18:40.000 Like notices bulges, OWO.
00:18:43.000 I mean, what could that refer to?
00:18:45.000 Who knows?
00:18:45.000 It's a mystery wrapped in a penis.
00:18:49.000 I would need to actually see these words in the way that they are on the bullet casings and the gun to make a proper interpretation.
00:18:56.000 But just knowing what those words are, I'm kind of overwhelmed with how immature it all sounds.
00:19:02.000 And that there is no really chronic theme.
00:19:05.000 Um I think Brandy really nailed it.
00:19:06.000 You have to make of it what you want.
00:19:08.000 Because, you know, it's like C's bulges, if you're reading this, you're gay, you know, catch this fascist, or hey fascist, catch it.
00:19:15.000 It's it's like the rantings of a really immature child.
00:19:19.000 And we really need to learn a lot more about what was going on in this accused shooter's life when all of this was happening.
00:19:27.000 Was he in a rabbit hole?
00:19:29.000 Was he, did he have no job?
00:19:30.000 Did he have no purpose?
00:19:32.000 You know, how did he become uh such a consumer of hate?
00:19:37.000 I mean, who knows?
00:19:39.000 Again, it's it's all just it's all just a mystery.
00:19:41.000 Meanwhile, CNN terrorism analyst Juliette Kayem says, you know, do we even care about the motive?
00:19:46.000 Like, really?
00:19:46.000 Like, should we care about it?
00:19:48.000 Like, do should it matter what the motive was?
00:19:50.000 I mean, yes, yes, it should.
00:19:53.000 And if the motive were reversed, you know that it would to you.
00:19:57.000 Well, will the rhetoric get toned down?
00:19:59.000 I mean, again, I go back to what was on the bullet from this kid was fascism, and that's that's only coming from one side currently in this debate, and it's on every placard and every poster around the country.
00:20:11.000 I mean, I think it's a valid question, but are they gonna live up to what they say they're going to do with the Nazi and the fascism and the like?
00:20:17.000 I yeah, do you I don't think we know just to be clear, I mean, just law enforcement people are thinking I don't think we know the meaning uh uh of his message.
00:20:29.000 I we know his history.
00:20:31.000 Melon Chow is an anti-fascist thing.
00:20:33.000 It says fascists catch the case.
00:20:34.000 And I'll give you then I'll give you his history, right?
00:20:37.000 Think about his history.
00:20:39.000 His history, and but this is not the point.
00:20:42.000 This is this is what I think that's what I wanted to tell you.
00:20:44.000 That's this was my point, not yours.
00:20:45.000 This was my point, not yours.
00:20:48.000 The point is who cares a man was killed.
00:20:52.000 Well, you know, who cares a man was killed?
00:20:54.000 I mean, like, yes, that's why we care.
00:20:56.000 That would be the reason.
00:20:58.000 Meanwhile, Governor Josh Shapiro, who has pathologically, he's developed a pathological inability to condemn left-wing violence.
00:21:07.000 It's very weird.
00:21:08.000 So he put out a tweet quote no one party is immune from political violence.
00:21:12.000 My family and I can attest to that.
00:21:14.000 Using the rhetoric of rage and calling some of our fellow Americans scum, no matter how profound our differences only creates more division.
00:21:19.000 It makes it harder to heal.
00:21:20.000 We are at an inflection point in America.
00:21:22.000 Violence transcends party lines, and the way to address it and have true peaceful debate is for leaders to speak and act with moral clarity.
00:21:28.000 That needs to start with the president.
00:21:29.000 He said that in response to Donald Trump pointing out that the problem right now is on the left, which it largely is.
00:21:35.000 And Governor Shapiro should know that, since the person who burned the house that he and his family were in was doing so over Israel.
00:21:41.000 That was not coming from the right, that was coming from the left, obviously.
00:21:46.000 Okay, but that that's actually not even the worst form of the response to this news.
00:21:50.000 The worst form continues to be the stream, the SETI stream turning into a gushing river of attacks on Charlie Kirk, on President Trump, justifications of violence.
00:22:02.000 I gotta say, that there is a streamer named Destiny.
00:22:05.000 You may remember Destiny from last year when he and I had a debate on Lex Friedman.
00:22:09.000 And, you know, it was it was friendly enough.
00:22:11.000 I'm a little perturbed to find that apparently destiny wants us all dead.
00:22:16.000 That seems sort of strange and odd and unpleasant.
00:22:21.000 I mean, he was supposed to be the reasonable liberal, and it turns out that he is totally fine with people getting killed, which is a hell of a take here.
00:22:29.000 Truly a hell of a take.
00:22:30.000 When you say you can't get along with people like this, yeah, yes, I think, yes.
00:22:37.000 You need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events so that they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature.
00:22:44.000 The issue is right now, they don't feel like there's any fear.
00:22:50.000 Like, I don't know, I don't know.
00:22:52.000 It's like memes.
00:22:52.000 It's just memes to everybody, I guess.
00:22:54.000 I don't know, bro.
00:22:55.000 I don't know.
00:22:55.000 I don't care.
00:22:56.000 I'm playing video games.
00:22:56.000 Okay.
00:22:57.000 I'm done today.
00:22:57.000 I don't give a fuck.
00:22:59.000 So more conservatives need to get killed.
00:23:02.000 So they'll understand that the temperature is too high.
00:23:04.000 Is that that that's that's the idea here?
00:23:07.000 Salad, solid stuff.
00:23:09.000 Meanwhile, protesters at a Charlie Kirk vigil, one shouted, I want you to effing die, which um, yeah, we we know that's what you want.
00:23:17.000 We are aware.
00:23:17.000 We are aware.
00:23:26.000 I don't want your salvation's I want you to fing die.
00:23:32.000 We're not gonna give you a second chance, even when you bet for it on your knees, begging and bleeding.
00:23:40.000 So, first of all, not good at guitar, also terrible voice.
00:23:46.000 Like two out of ten musical skill, but speaks to a broader problem, obviously.
00:23:53.000 Meanwhile, people just lying about Charlie, right?
00:23:55.000 Which is a tacit justification of violence against him.
00:23:58.000 As I've been saying, if your response to someone getting killed in the political realm, who's in the normie political realm, if you're if your response to them is too bad they were killed, but Charlie was as normally as it comes.
00:24:14.000 If your response to that is to then slander him by attributing to him beliefs he did not have, then I think you are part of the problem.
00:24:22.000 You are fomenting the permission structure for violence, as I've been saying.
00:24:24.000 Jamel Hill, who is just made a joke of herself, honestly.
00:24:29.000 Uh, it is shocking to me that at any point she was taken seriously.
00:24:32.000 But but she went out there and said that the thing about Charlie is that he believes in the innate superiority of white people.
00:24:39.000 You are a liar.
00:24:41.000 A liar.
00:24:42.000 Okay, you are lying.
00:24:44.000 Anyone who knew Charlie knew this is if you consumed Charlie's content, you knew this wasn't true.
00:24:49.000 This is a lie, like an overt, complete lie, soup to nuts lie.
00:24:54.000 And literally, Charlie literally fought a rhetorical war, a flame war with the Gropers who do believe in white superiority.
00:25:03.000 He fought to keep them out of his movement.
00:25:05.000 It was literally called the Gruper War in 2019.
00:25:07.000 It was a thing that happened.
00:25:09.000 I remember it, because I was there.
00:25:11.000 And here's Jamel Hill claiming that Charlie was some sort of white supremacist.
00:25:15.000 The reason he was labeled a white supremacist is because he believed in the superiority of white people, which is why he said that a he would be concerned if he saw a black pilot.
00:25:30.000 Which is why he said that he questioned the brain processing of brilliant minds such as Joy Ann Reed and Kentaji Brown Jackson, because he ultimately believed in the superiority of a white people.
00:25:45.000 Okay, you're God, she's such a liar.
00:25:47.000 What he said about the black pilots is he said affirmative action, this is a commonly made argument, by the way.
00:25:52.000 Affirmative action assumes that black people need extra points in order to achieve the same result as a person who is not black.
00:26:00.000 And what that does is it seeds doubt in the minds of people who then see black people in particular slots, and that's unfair to the black people.
00:26:07.000 That was the argument that Charlie was making.
00:26:09.000 That black people aren't inferior and therefore don't need extra points to become pilots, for example.
00:26:14.000 They don't need DEI to become good pilots.
00:26:17.000 And when you stack DEI on top of the meritocracy, what you end up with is a false perception of the inferiority of particular peoples.
00:26:24.000 It was anti-racist, what Charlie was saying.
00:26:27.000 And as far as his point about Katanji Brown Jackson or Joy Reed not being particularly bright, right, because they're not.
00:26:36.000 It turns out they're a bunch of white people who are dumb, also, but these happen to be black people who are dumb.
00:26:40.000 Who cares?
00:26:41.000 Charlie didn't do that because of the race, he did that because they're dumb.
00:26:45.000 It's amazing.
00:26:47.000 Meanwhile, Don Lemon, he too is very upset with all the tributes being paid to Charlie.
00:26:52.000 So Don Lemon, who couldn't hold down that job over at CNN, and who now has a viewership of apparently my viewers, because I think that's his only viewership is when he played His clips on my show.
00:27:01.000 Here is Don Lemon, who is tearing into Charlie.
00:27:05.000 The things that came out of Charlie Kirk's mouth were many, much of it was hurtful, discriminatory, ignorant.
00:27:19.000 And I'll stop there, to say the least.
00:27:23.000 Well, I mean, if Don Lemon says so, then it must be false.
00:27:28.000 Meanwhile, a pastor named Howard John Wesley at the Alfred Street Baptist Church in DC went viral over the course of the last 48 hours for issuing a massive rebuke of Charlie Kirk, basically saying that your death does not justify your life.
00:27:46.000 Here we go.
00:27:48.000 But I'm overwhelmed to see the nation's flag.
00:27:54.000 Fly at half staff for a man who was a proud racist and spent his entire life sowing seeds of division and hatred into this land.
00:28:09.000 Thank you.
00:28:16.000 And then these hypocrites with selective rage who were mad about Charlie Kirk, but didn't say anything about Melissa Hortman and her husband when they were gunned down in their living room.
00:28:37.000 Tell me that I ought to have compassion for the death of a man who never showed compassion or respect for my life.
00:28:49.000 Y'all, there's nowhere in Bible we are told to honor evil.
00:28:55.000 Thank you.
00:29:02.000 And I know I'm gonna get in trouble for this.
00:29:05.000 But how you died does not redeem how you lived.
00:29:10.000 How disgusting.
00:29:11.000 Truly disgusting.
00:29:12.000 Nothing he said there is true.
00:29:14.000 And it's this kind of rhetoric.
00:29:16.000 I mean, he called Charlie evil right there.
00:29:18.000 Evil.
00:29:20.000 Not ISIS, not Hamas.
00:29:24.000 Charlie Kirk, evil.
00:29:27.000 And again, this is all part and parcel of the far left's attempt to paint everybody who is on the right as the worst version of evil.
00:29:36.000 Representative Jasmine Crockett was on The Breakfast Club with Charlemagne and defended herself, calling Trump a wannabe Hitler.
00:29:44.000 And again, it's this sort of line that Trump is Hitler that leads people to believe, hey, maybe if he's Hitler, you know what should have happened to Hitler.
00:29:51.000 Now here's Jasmine Crockett cooling the temperature by zero degrees.
00:29:55.000 We've got to talk about like what it means when you're running for president or you're running for one of these higher offices, and you go out there and you talk about beating people up.
00:30:02.000 You go out there and you say things like, I could shoot somebody in the middle of the street in New York, and I could still win.
00:30:08.000 We gotta talk about like that, that is next level.
00:30:11.000 Me disagreeing with you, me calling you, you know, a wannabe Hitler, all those things are like not necessarily saying go out and hurt somebody.
00:30:20.000 But when you're literally telling people at rallies, yeah, beat them up, and that kind of stuff, like you are promoting like a culture of violence, so we need to talk about like what it looks like when you don't promote a culture of violence.
00:30:33.000 Um, I mean, you say that you you're not promoting culture of violence by defending yourself calling Trump a wannabe Hitler.
00:30:40.000 So, this brings us to the left-wing response that is sort of the normie left-wing response, and that is a sort of generic rejection of political violence.
00:30:47.000 So Nancy Pelosi, she came out and said, you know, people don't have any intention to lead to something dangerous.
00:30:52.000 I mean, we we just, you know, no more political violence.
00:30:55.000 Political violence, no, no more.
00:30:58.000 People don't have any intention of saying something that's gonna lead to something dangerous, but we cannot take responsibility for the minds that are out there and how they hear it.
00:31:10.000 No responsibility.
00:31:12.000 Booty judge came out, he said, we have to reject those who celebrate political violence, which again on a sort of anodyne level is correct, but it doesn't go far enough.
00:31:19.000 No, it doesn't go nearly far enough.
00:31:21.000 In order to turn the tide of political violence, yes, we have to reject those who commit political violence.
00:31:29.000 Yes, we have to Reject those who celebrate or promote political violence, but also in order to deprive political violence of its power, we have to reject anyone who would try to exploit political violence.
00:31:43.000 The response to this cannot be for the government to crack down on individuals or groups, not because of violence, but because they challenge the government politically.
00:31:57.000 Okay, so here is what an actual real response would look like.
00:32:01.000 Senator John Fetterman, who is apparently the only sane person in the Democratic Party, or at least one of the few.
00:32:07.000 He said the reality.
00:32:09.000 So yesterday, he was on CNN, and he said, you know what?
00:32:13.000 Trump isn't an autocrat.
00:32:14.000 I don't agree with him.
00:32:15.000 He's not an autocrat.
00:32:16.000 Yes, thank you.
00:32:18.000 It's not that tough.
00:32:19.000 Thank you.
00:32:21.000 But when you hear some Democrats saying Trump is acting like an autocrat.
00:32:26.000 Yeah, no, that's the thing.
00:32:27.000 I, if you actually compare it to an actual autocrat, that is not, that is not just that.
00:32:32.000 Now, last night, for example, people were were complaining, uh, they were protesting about, oh, that's the Hitler-Hitler thing.
00:32:41.000 You just don't ever, ever compare anyone to Hitler and those kinds of extreme things.
00:32:46.000 And now, look what happened to Charlie Kirk.
00:32:48.000 I mean, you know, the man was shot now.
00:32:50.000 We have to turn the temperature down.
00:32:53.000 It's like we can't compare people to these kinds of figures in history.
00:32:56.000 And this is not an autocrat.
00:32:59.000 This is a product of a democratic election.
00:33:05.000 It's not that hard.
00:33:06.000 John Fetterman can do it.
00:33:08.000 That senator, the only is he he may be the only sane democratic senator left, truly.
00:33:13.000 Was that so difficult?
00:33:15.000 Was that so difficult?
00:33:17.000 Well, meanwhile, there's been a lot of talk on the left about the evils of cancel culture, and they're very, very upset.
00:33:22.000 They're very upset about cancel culture all of a sudden.
00:33:24.000 Why?
00:33:25.000 Well, because longtime Washington Post writer Karen Atia was fired.
00:33:29.000 And she says she was fired from the publications opinions department.
00:33:32.000 She should have been fired long ago.
00:33:33.000 She's a terrible columnist for quote speaking out against political violence, racial double double standards, and America's apathy toward guns.
00:33:40.000 Well, that's not actually what happened.
00:33:43.000 What actually happened is that she quoted Charlie Kirk falsely.
00:33:50.000 That's what actually happened.
00:33:51.000 What actually happened is that she went on Blue Sky and she misquoted Charlie on affirmative action.
00:34:00.000 Here's what she said quote Black women do not have the brain processing power to be taken seriously.
00:34:04.000 You have to go steal a white person's slot.
00:34:07.000 Charlie Kirk.
00:34:08.000 Okay, that is wrong.
00:34:10.000 Charlie was quoting someone saying that to reject it.
00:34:14.000 That is what got her fired, because she basically falsified a quote about Charlie with regard to Charlie.
00:34:21.000 That again treats him as though he's a racist.
00:34:23.000 So should she be fired?
00:34:25.000 Yeah, I mean, she's a journalist.
00:34:26.000 So yeah, she's an opinion writer.
00:34:28.000 And that is not cancel culture.
00:34:30.000 Now, I've been pretty consistent about this, because I think that, again, the consequences of saying vile things in the real world, those are real consequences, and they exist.
00:34:40.000 And we have to be pretty careful about where we apply those consequences.
00:34:43.000 But we shouldn't pretend that there should be no consequences in the real world when people say vile things, and not all things are created equal.
00:34:49.000 I'm not a moral relativist.
00:34:50.000 I do not think that saying truly awful things is the same as saying a boy is not a girl, for example.
00:34:57.000 I'm not going to play the moral relativist game because I don't think it's accurate.
00:35:01.000 By the same token, I do not think that it is a good idea to speak the way that the Attorney General Pambandi spoke yesterday.
00:35:08.000 Now, the Trump administration is talking about doing some effective things to clamp down on groups that actually do foment violence.
00:35:15.000 So, for example, JD Vance had Stephen Miller on Charlie's show yesterday.
00:35:20.000 And Stephen was talking about dismantling NGOs that advocate for violence, which, of course, you can do.
00:35:26.000 I mean, advocating for violence, inciting violence is in fact a crime, and you can shut down organizations that involve themselves in that.
00:35:33.000 That is violation of law.
00:35:38.000 A lot of people are very worried about how we got here in the first place.
00:35:42.000 And you have the crazies on the far left who are saying, oh, Stephen Miller and J.D. Vance, they're going to go after constitutionally protected speech.
00:35:48.000 No, no, no.
00:35:49.000 We're going to go after the NGO network that foments facilitates and engages in violence.
00:35:56.000 That's not okay.
00:35:58.000 Violence is not okay in our system, And we want to make it less likely that that happens.
00:36:02.000 Chip Roy over in Congress doing the same thing.
00:36:04.000 He's trying to launch a select committee to prove radical left organizations that foment violence.
00:36:09.000 He said, quote, we've seen dangerous networks like Antifa organize, fund and deploy sophisticated terror campaigns, attacking law enforcement and destroying American cities.
00:36:17.000 We've seen George Soros, the Ren Collective, and other radical organizations funding and putting in place district attorneys and judges to then coordinate releasing criminals to the streets.
00:36:25.000 Enough is enough.
00:36:26.000 We must follow the money to identify the perpetrators of coordinated anti-American assaults being carried out against us and take all steps under the law necessary to stop them.
00:36:34.000 He says we can no longer pretend to be bound together by shared ideals when a well-funded vitriolic cadre of our fellow Americans and foreign interests are at war with the very values of faith in God, fidelity to our Constitution, and respect for the principles of liberty and Western civilization that define us as Americans, including notably the free speech practice and exemplified by Charlie Kirk.
00:36:52.000 So again, that is not that is not Chip Roy calling for an end of free speech.
00:36:56.000 The idea there is that there is actual crime, actual violence, conspiracy to commit violent act being perpetuated by particular groups and paid for by other groups.
00:37:06.000 And that should be investigated.
00:37:08.000 That's perfectly well within bounds and totally worthwhile.
00:37:12.000 Pam Bondi, the attorney general, articulated this in as poor a way as it's possible to articulate this.
00:37:18.000 She suggested that she was going to unleash the law against hate speech.
00:37:22.000 You can't do this.
00:37:23.000 I'm just going to point out you can't do this.
00:37:25.000 This is against the First Amendment.
00:37:26.000 It's against the Constitution.
00:37:28.000 There is no category of speech called hate speech because it's a totally malleable category until 20 seconds ago is considered hate speech to say, as Charlie said, as I've been saying for my entire career, that boys are not girls.
00:37:41.000 So yeah, we're not going to do this, what Pam Bondi is saying here.
00:37:44.000 There's free speech and then there's hate speech.
00:37:46.000 And there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie in our society.
00:37:53.000 Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people so we show them that some action is better than no action?
00:38:04.000 We will absolutely target you, go after you if you are targeting anyone with hate speech, anything, and that's across the aisle.
00:38:15.000 Well, well, I do not think that that is that no.
00:38:21.000 That's a no from me, dog.
00:38:22.000 It's gonna be a no from me.
00:38:24.000 But there are things that the federal government can do to, for example, investigate groups like Antifa, see where they get their money, use actual law enforcement resources to crack down on violent groups, like apparently the violent group that was online that was coordinating, possibly, to kill Charlie Kirk.
00:38:40.000 But the bottom line is this.
00:38:43.000 There is a difference between the mainstream normie Americans.
00:38:46.000 I think on both sides of the aisle and what we are seeing that is cropping up everywhere.
00:38:50.000 This permission structure that exists.
00:38:52.000 Again, it's a leg it's it's a luxury belief, as my friend Rob Henderson says, a luxury belief by elites that violence, political violence is justified so long as it's people who agree with me.
00:39:03.000 That is not something most Americans go along with.
00:39:05.000 It is not something that we want.
00:39:08.000 I think we can come together around that, but we are gonna have to extirpate movements in the United States ideologically and through social pressure.
00:39:15.000 We should extirpate movements that are fundamentally grounded in conspiracy theories about the world that promote violence because they say the conspiracy can only be fought through mechanisms of violence and that violence is therefore deserved.
00:39:26.000 We'll get to more on this in a moment.
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00:41:31.000 Alrighty, meanwhile, speaking of people who are not, in fact, quashing the violent movements of the United States.
00:41:37.000 Zar Mamdani over in New York, he seems like he is poised to win his mayoral race in New York.
00:41:42.000 Kathy Hokel, the feckless governor of New York, has now endorsed Zaren Mamdani.
00:41:48.000 He, of course, is very excited to have her support.
00:41:50.000 And why wouldn't he be?
00:41:51.000 He's a useless communist who uh supports terrorism, and he just got the support of the sitting governor of New York.
00:41:57.000 He should be very happy.
00:41:59.000 Never has a more useless person achieved higher office than Zoran Mamdani.
00:42:03.000 It truly is an astonishing thing.
00:42:05.000 I'm excited to welcome Governor Hokel to our movement and to show the partnership at hand between City Hall and Albany in fighting to make the most expensive city in the United States of America affordable and in fighting back against an authoritarian administration that seeks to tear apart the very fabric of this city.
00:42:28.000 Well, great.
00:42:29.000 So glad that the Democratic Party that wants to fight extremism and violence is endorsing a person who, you know, wants to globalize the Intifada.
00:42:38.000 Sounds great.
00:42:39.000 Well, in mildly positive news, apparently Mayor Eric Adams is going to drop out of that mayoral race.
00:42:46.000 According to News 12 Westchester's Terra Rosenblum, Adams' announcement could come by the end of the week.
00:42:53.000 Now, again, it could be too late.
00:42:55.000 It could be that Adams dropping out doesn't give enough time for the consolidation of the rest of the field.
00:43:03.000 Mam Dani, of course, has the support of the entire left.
00:43:07.000 Right now, support remains split between Cuomo and Sleewa.
00:43:11.000 If Adams drops out, Curtis is going to have to drop out to give Cuomo a shot to win.
00:43:16.000 That's just the reality.
00:43:17.000 Even if Cuomo dropped out, half of Cuomo's support would then bleed over to Mamdani.
00:43:21.000 With that said, Mamdani is currently the overwhelming favorite to win in New York, demonstrating once again that New Yorkers can seize defeat from the draws of victory by electing actual communists to high office.
00:43:32.000 Well, meanwhile, the president of the United States continues to move on his anti-crime crusade.
00:43:37.000 He announced yesterday that he would be sending the National Guard to Memphis and New Orleans.
00:43:42.000 He will have legal authority to do that because presumably the governors of both Louisiana and Tennessee are going to not only go along with President Trump's move, they're going to ask him to do it.
00:43:54.000 We're going to Memphis.
00:43:56.000 Memphis is that's the next city.
00:43:58.000 Deeply troubled.
00:43:59.000 And the mayor is happy.
00:44:01.000 He's a Democrat.
00:44:02.000 The mayor is happy and the governor, Tennessee.
00:44:06.000 The governor's happy.
00:44:12.000 So again, I think this is a very smart move by Trump.
00:44:14.000 I think shifting focus away from Democrat-run states to Republican-run states and saying, listen, I just want to stop crime.
00:44:20.000 Republican governors are letting me stop crime.
00:44:22.000 Why aren't Democratic governors letting me stop crime?
00:44:24.000 Very, very smart tactic.
00:44:25.000 The president put out a statement on Truth Social quote: the only reason crime is somewhat down in Memphis is because the FBI and others in the federal government at my direction have been working there for five months on the absolutely terrible crime numbers.
00:44:36.000 Likewise in Chicago and Los Angeles.
00:44:38.000 But the real work by us has barely begun.
00:44:40.000 That happens after we make the official announcement that we're coming.
00:44:42.000 And when we do that, as we did in the very safe Washington, DC, the no-crime miracle begins.
00:44:47.000 Only I can save them.
00:44:49.000 Dun.
00:44:50.000 Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump.
00:44:53.000 I I I added the little um trumpet flourish there.
00:44:56.000 But otherwise, the rest of that is President Trump.
00:44:58.000 Meanwhile, again, Senator Fetterman, the only rational person in the Senate for the Democrats.
00:45:02.000 He says, listen, we shouldn't be fighting Trump's National Guard.
00:45:04.000 Are they going to stop crime or they're not going to stop crime?
00:45:08.000 We've seen Democratic mayors in Chicago and in Baltimore resist federal help, additional federal help.
00:45:15.000 Is that a good idea to fight Trump on this?
00:45:18.000 No, what I'll say is like I experienced that, you know.
00:45:21.000 It's like I live in Navy Yard.
00:45:23.000 I would walk to work and I would see a lot of uh National Guard people.
00:45:27.000 It it wasn't it one honestly wasn't a big deal.
00:45:30.000 They were just, they were friendly.
00:45:31.000 They were standing around.
00:45:32.000 And this wasn't like the there wasn't Russian army.
00:45:36.000 Well, this was you know, it's our sons, our daughters, our fathers, or our mothers kind of a thing.
00:45:40.000 Um it it it it if you actually experience it on hand on the ground.
00:45:45.000 It's it's really not like an op and uh it's not occup occupied uh city or anything.
00:45:52.000 So yeah, he is right.
00:45:54.000 It is a maybe John Fetterman for president.
00:45:57.000 I mean, honestly, like he the the last rational democrat.
00:46:01.000 Meanwhile, President Trump, you know, for all the talk about President Trump being a racist, he seems to be taking a very strong interest in the murder and beheading of an Indian origin hotel manager allegedly by a Cuban illegal immigrant in Dallas last week.
00:46:13.000 He went on Truth Social and he commented on the murder of Chandra Muli Nagamalia, who's 50, attacked by with a machete by his co-worker in front of his wife and child after an argument over a broken washing machine.
00:46:27.000 And President Trump put out a statement saying about the perpetrator, this individual was previously arrested for terrible crimes, including child grand theft auto, and false imprisonment, but was sent back into our homeland under incompetent Joe Biden because Cuba did not want such an evil person in their country.
00:46:41.000 Rest assured, the time for being soft on these illegal immigrant criminals is over under my watch.
00:46:47.000 Okay, well, again, it's har it's hard to argue that that's not a big win for President Trump.
00:46:51.000 It continues to be a winner for President Trump, obviously.
00:46:56.000 Meanwhile, the President continues to say that his patience is running out with Vladimir Putin.
00:47:00.000 Vladimir Putin has continued to up the ante over and over and over again with regards to Ukraine.
00:47:07.000 Obviously, just a few days ago, Vladimir Putin flew a bunch of drones into Poland, which is obviously an attempt to sort of probe the defenses of a NATO ally.
00:47:15.000 President Trump said on Fox and Friends that his patience is running out.
00:47:22.000 Yeah, it's sort of running out and running out fast.
00:47:25.000 But it does take two to ten, though.
00:47:28.000 It's amazing.
00:47:29.000 When Putin wants to do it, Zelensky didn't.
00:47:32.000 When Zelensky wanted to do it, Putin did.
00:47:35.000 Now Zelensky wants to, and Putin is uh question mark.
00:47:40.000 But we're gonna have to come down very, very strong.
00:47:44.000 Okay, so what will Strong look like?
00:47:46.000 That remains an open question.
00:47:48.000 The president chided Putin for getting that close to Poland with his drones.
00:47:52.000 What are you gonna do about President Putin?
00:47:55.000 Because we just saw these drones in Poland.
00:47:58.000 Yeah, well, more sanctions.
00:48:01.000 I mean, I I'm not gonna defend anybody, but the Poland, they were actually knocked down and they fell into an area.
00:48:05.000 But he shouldn't be close to Poland anyway.
00:48:09.000 Well, you know, that is right, but they're gonna have to be some sort of actual consequences here.
00:48:14.000 The Native Secretary General Mark Rudy, who's been quite allied with President Trump's demands for higher payments from various European states, he said Russia's drone incursion is dangerous and unacceptable, which of course it is.
00:48:25.000 What happened on Wednesday was not an isolated incident.
00:48:29.000 Russia's recklessness in the air along our eastern flank is increasing in frequency.
00:48:36.000 We have seen drones violate our airspace in Romania, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.
00:48:43.000 Whether intentional or not, it is dangerous and unacceptable.
00:48:50.000 At a meeting of the North Atlantic Council on Wednesday morning, allies discussed the situation in light of Poland's request for Article 4 consultations.
00:49:00.000 Allies expressed full solidarity with Poland and denounced Russia's reckless behavior.
00:49:07.000 President Trump has responded to all of this by saying that he will impose new sanctions on Russia if Europe is willing to cut off getting its oil supply from the Russians, which does make some sense considering again that the Russians are buying extraordinary quantities of oil still from a country they are at war with, effectively, in Russia.
00:49:24.000 Here is President Trump saying just that.
00:49:30.000 But they're buying oil from Russia.
00:49:33.000 So we can't be expected to be the only ones that are on, you know, full, full war.
00:49:38.000 But Europe is buying oil from Russia.
00:49:40.000 I don't want them to buy oil.
00:49:42.000 And the sanctions that are putting that they're putting on are not tough enough.
00:49:46.000 And I'm willing to do sanctions, but they're gonna have to toughen up their sanctions commensurate with what I'm doing.
00:49:53.000 You wouldn't move ahead of tomatoes.
00:49:55.000 Well, I'm I'm ready to move ahead, but they have to do it.
00:49:58.000 I think they will.
00:50:00.000 But right now they're talking and they're not doing.
00:50:02.000 Look, they're buying oil from Russia.
00:50:05.000 We're not buying oil from Russia.
00:50:07.000 They're buying a lot of oil from Russia.
00:50:09.000 That's not the deal.
00:50:11.000 Okay, so he's not wrong about this.
00:50:13.000 Now, the way the United States can help out with this is by subsidizing LNG to Europe.
00:50:18.000 Effectively, a new Marshall Plan that will keep Russia away from its predations in Ukraine, and that will strengthen Europe in the face of the Russian bear, prop up their economies, which is actually not a terrible thing, and also effectively allow the Europeans to get off of Russian oil and make the Europeans frankly more dependent on the United States, which is not a terrible idea.
00:50:40.000 That should be a next move to be considered.
00:50:43.000 As long as we're doing state subsidized trade, that should be something that we consider pretty strongly right now.
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