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00:03:11.000President Trump is headed over to Singapore for his meeting with Kim Jong-un, the human time bomb, a man who looks as though he was built in the model of fat man and little boy.
00:03:21.000So he apparently is meeting with President Trump one-on-one.
00:03:25.000Which is just the way you want this meeting to start.
00:03:27.000What you really want in a meeting between President Trump and Kim Jong-un, a dictator of a country and a guy who is most famous for not reading his morning briefings, is a one-on-one meeting.
00:03:37.000Now listen, I think that President Trump is good at a great many things.
00:03:40.000I do not think that he is a great negotiator one-on-one with people armed with nuclear weapons.
00:05:37.000I don't think that you ought to give a meet-up to a dictator of a country without actually going in with some preconditions, like, here's what you're going to give up.
00:05:46.000I guess that's something, but I'm not sure that you had to guarantee a meeting in order to make that happen.
00:05:50.000You probably could have done that with a little bit of cash or with some low-level negotiations.
00:05:54.000Elevating a dictator who's enslaving millions of people in a giant gulag to the status of world leader doesn't seem to me like a great move.
00:06:00.000You know, I was angry when Barack Obama met with the Iranians.
00:06:03.000I was angry when Barack Obama met with the Cubans.
00:06:05.000You remember, he went over to Cuba, which is another gulag state, and then he hung out there and went to a baseball game and everybody on the right was angry about it.
00:06:13.000Same people on the right who are fighting mad about that are not fighting mad about President Trump meeting with Kim Jong-un with no preconditions and really no agenda.
00:06:19.000When I say there's no agenda, it's not really me who's just saying this.
00:06:22.000Here's President Trump explaining what the agenda is and how he thinks this thing is going to go.
00:07:31.000Maybe we end up with a denuclearized North Korea.
00:07:35.000I am skeptical at best, because the fact is that Kim Jong-un is not going to give up his nuclear weapons.
00:07:40.000The reason he's not going to give up his nuclear weapons is the minute that he does, he's now vulnerable to a Western coup attempt.
00:07:46.000That's the reason he's pursuing this thing in the first place.
00:07:48.000According to the Associated Press, President Trump plans to depart early from his unprecedented summit with Kim Jong-un, the White House said on Monday, declaring the nuclear talks with North Korea have moved more quickly than expected.
00:07:57.000This is probably a smart move by the White House, because what you don't want is for Trump to stick around
00:08:15.000And for Kim to go out and say something publicly, and then Trump says something publicly, and then they get into a fistfight or something.
00:08:20.000In fact, only hours before the White House announcement, U.S.
00:08:22.000Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had seemed to lower expectations for the meeting, which Trump had predicted could potentially yield an on-the-spot deal to end the Korean War.
00:08:43.000Here's the problem with President Trump, generally, when it comes to negotiations.
00:08:55.000Every commercial you have ever watched is a case of somebody over-promising, right?
00:08:58.000When you watch a commercial on TV and they show you those nice, juicy burgers that look amazing, what those really are are those plastic mock-ups that have been sprayed with water so they look all moist and juicy, and if you ate them, you would literally choke and die.
00:09:10.000Right, because virtually every ad on television is an oversell.
00:09:13.000Well, President Trump does a lot of overselling.
00:09:15.000He says he has the biggest crowds ever.
00:09:17.000He said that his campaign movement was the biggest ever.
00:09:19.000He says that this negotiation is going to be the biggest.
00:09:22.000Everything is unprecedented, the biggest ever.
00:09:24.000Well, the problem is when you oversell an international negotiation, people sort of expect that's going to happen.
00:09:28.000Pompeo said on Monday, we are hopeful the summit will have set the conditions for future successful talks, which is really him saying we didn't really get much done here.
00:10:25.000Now, I'd like to accomplish more than that.
00:10:27.000But at a minimum, I do believe at least we'll have met each other, we will have seen each other, hopefully we will have liked each other, and we'll start that process.
00:10:37.000So the President of the United States is very much focused on whether he gets along with foreign leaders.
00:10:42.000We'll see that this comes up in a different context when we get to the G7, because his relationships with foreign leaders at the G7 are not going so swimmingly.
00:10:49.000But if he believes that he's going to forge some sort of personal tie,
00:10:51.000With Kim Jong Un, that I think is a mistake.
00:10:54.000Again, I do not think that negotiations generally are based on personal ties between leaders.
00:10:58.000I don't think that it was that Ronald Reagan had this wonderful relationship with Mikhail Gorbachev, and that's why he got an end to the Cold War.
00:11:05.000It's really more like the Soviets had bankrupted themselves and they were attempting
00:11:08.000Really, I mean, you look at their internal documents, and this is what they were saying.
00:11:11.000They were attempting to hold on to their Soviet empire, but they just didn't have the money or the resources to do so.
00:11:16.000This was also true with regard to, for example, South Africa, which wanted to disarm.
00:11:20.000The reason they wanted to disarm is because they wanted to be reintegrated into the family of nations.
00:11:24.000It wasn't that the leadership of South Africa had wonderful relationships with the West, and so they decided to do a deal.
00:11:29.000I've been part of several major business deals myself.
00:11:32.000A good relationship is not harmful, but if there's no confluence of interest, then a personal relationship is not going to mean very much.
00:11:39.000I've gotten along with a lot of people with whom I've tried to do a deal, and the deal just never comes together.
00:11:43.000I've done a lot of deals with people who I don't particularly like, but there's a confluence of interest, and so that happens.
00:11:48.000Now, President Trump's view of a deal, which is that you get in a room, you hash it out, you make friends with people, it means that President Trump is very good in the room.
00:11:57.000But it also means that he could be suckered.
00:12:00.000And this is why I don't like the idea of him being alone in a room with Kim Jong-un and just their translators.
00:12:04.000First of all, you never know what the translator for the North Koreans is actually going to say back to Kim Jong-un.
00:12:10.000I mean, I assume that Trump's translator will know, but that's pretty much it.
00:12:14.000Trump alone in a room with people has not ended well in terms of negotiations.
00:12:17.000The last time Trump was alone in a room with somebody, he was alone in a room with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, and he offered them a budget deal that broke the bank and overruled his own Republican Party.
00:12:26.000The time before that, he was alone in the room with foreign leaders.
00:12:28.000He was alone in a room with the foreign ambassador from Russia, and he ended up saying to him that he fired James Comey over the Russian investigation.
00:12:35.000I just think this is a situation rife with the possibility for problems.
00:12:41.000But if nothing comes of it, then what was the purpose of any of this other than, I guess, a photo op that makes Kim Jong-un look stronger in the world as a parallel leader with the most powerful leader on planet Earth?
00:12:49.000The entire media treating it as a coup, that Trump is meeting with Kim Jong-un, I just don't understand that mentality.
00:12:54.000It's a coup for Kim Jong-un that he gets to meet with the President of the United States.
00:12:57.000It'd be a coup for you if you got to meet with the President of the United States.
00:12:59.000It would not be a coup for you if you got to meet with Kim Jong-un.
00:13:02.000It would likely mean you were about to be shot.
00:13:04.000Yes, I have a few more thoughts on this in just a second.
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00:14:36.000What's the outcome going to be from all of this?
00:14:38.000Well, here's what you hope the outcome is not.
00:14:40.000What you hope the outcome is not is denuclearization of the Korean peninsula.
00:14:43.000So there's been a lot of talk about the president of the United States going in and removing troops from the mainland, from taking troops off of the South Korean peninsula and allowing the North Koreans essentially free reign over the peninsula with Chinese pressure.
00:14:57.000President Trump has pursued a rather isolating foreign policy.
00:15:00.000There are certain allies he's grown close to, like Israel.
00:15:02.000His Middle East policy, I think, has been quite good because it's been anti-Iran.
00:15:05.000But his Asian-Pacific policy has been really a shambles.
00:15:10.000It's been a shambles since he decided to reject the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
00:15:13.000Now, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, as negotiated by President Obama, had some very serious flaws, had some very serious holes in it.
00:15:19.000And those could have been rectified by working to fix the deal, by working to make it better.
00:15:45.000Through a lot of countries into the arms of China, or at least under the outstretched missile umbrella of the Chinese, none of that is particularly good.
00:15:52.000And so when President Trump talks about removing troops from the South Korean peninsula and allowing the North Koreans to have essentially military parity with South Koreans on the peninsula, I'm not saying they're going to go to war.
00:16:03.000I am saying that the North Koreans and the Chinese then have the ability to pressure South Korea in a way they otherwise would not.
00:16:09.000And there are a lot of South Koreans who are not particularly happy with the Americans as it is.
00:16:13.000None of this is particularly good policy.
00:16:15.000If the president really wants to force North Korea's hands, he's going to need to do what he likes to do, which is be more muscular, not less muscular.
00:16:22.000And meeting with Kim Jong-un under these circumstances without any clear agenda — there's talk that President Trump wants to have a follow-up meeting in Mar-a-Lago, and Kim Jong-un is going to come in and play golf with him.
00:16:31.000Presumably, the final score for each of them will be 18.
00:16:35.000Because Kim Jong-un, famous for having scored 18 holes in one, one of the things about the cult of personality in North Korea that's somewhat amusing, if you can call amusing a giant dictatorship, is the fact that they put out all these press releases about how Kim Jong-un is the best golfer who ever lived.
00:16:49.000They've literally put out... Seriously, they put out actual...
00:16:54.000Press releases saying that Kim Jong-un has golfed like 18 on a full golf course.
00:16:59.000He's had 18 holes in one because of this cult of personality.
00:17:02.000President Trump is known to inflate his own golf prowess on a fairly regular basis.
00:17:07.000So if they go golfing together, at the very least, we'll get some amusing headlines out of it.
00:17:11.000But I'm not sure, again, that we should be spending our time and effort
00:17:14.000Really attempting to reach out to a regime without any clear plan for what goes forward.
00:17:17.000Again, I'm happy to be proved wrong here, but I'm going to have to be proved wrong because I just don't think that meetings for the sake of meetings are good.
00:17:23.000And until five minutes ago, neither did most conservatives.
00:17:26.000Now, speaking of meetings that seem to have gone wildly wrong, President Trump went up to the G7 in Canada and things did not go well.
00:17:58.000A beautiful example of good Trump, bad Trump.
00:18:00.000So a couple of things that he did that were good is the president refused to get together for the female equality summit, where we all get together and we pretend that in the West, there's all sorts of institutional barriers to women succeeding.
00:18:11.000That is not true in the United States.
00:18:13.000It's certainly not true in Europe either.
00:18:14.000But all of these leaders like to get together and mouth off about it because all of these European leaders are to the left.
00:18:52.000And this somehow is going to make America stronger.
00:18:54.000Now the problem with that, of course, is that means that you are spending more money for an inferior product in many cases.
00:18:59.000Many of these foreign companies have bases in the United States where they manufacture parts that go into their own cars.
00:19:05.000Mercedes has factories in the United States.
00:19:06.000Toyota has massive factories down in the southern United States.
00:19:09.000And when you boycott Toyota, you're not necessarily helping Americans.
00:19:13.000In fact, what you're doing is shifting your own money from the pockets of Americans who are in more efficient industries and more efficient businesses.
00:19:20.000to the pockets of Americans in subsidized industries.
00:19:24.000You are being taxed to benefit particular industries.
00:19:27.000Well, President Trump thinks that that makes a country stronger, and so he likes to look at the so-called trade deficit.
00:19:31.000The trade deficit is where Americans spend more on products from China than Chinese folks spend on products from America.
00:19:38.000Now, people who have paid attention to the trade deficit, it's a complete waste of time, it's really stupid.
00:19:42.000Paying attention to the trade deficit makes no sense, because again, you have a trade deficit with every business you do business with who does not buy from you.
00:19:48.000You have a trade deficit with your gas station.
00:19:50.000You have a trade deficit with your Starbucks.
00:19:52.000You have a trade deficit with your local grocery store.
00:19:55.000You have a trade deficit with every business that you buy from, but does not buy from you, you have a trade deficit with.
00:19:59.000Does that mean you should stop shopping there?
00:20:01.000And instead of going and getting a cup of coffee at Starbucks or Coffee Bean, instead you decide to grow your own coffee trees in the backyard and hand grind your coffee?
00:20:11.000The whole reason that trade is efficient is because of comparative advantage.
00:20:14.000Starbucks is better and cheaper at making coffee than you are.
00:20:17.000And you can take that extra time where you didn't grow the coffee beans and then grind them up and make a crappy brew, and instead you can get the somewhat less crappy brew from Starbucks.
00:20:25.000They can make all that happen for a couple of bucks.
00:20:27.000There's a reason that we trade with each other.
00:20:29.000There is a reason why capitalism and free markets have raised half the globe from abject poverty.
00:20:33.000Subsistence economies are giant fails.
00:20:35.000But the premise of President Trump's view on trade is that every time you trade with somebody, it's a zero-sum game.
00:20:40.000There's a winner and there is a loser.
00:20:53.000He says things like tariffs make us stronger.
00:20:55.000And then you got Larry Kudlow, who is a free trader and somebody who actually understands basic economics 101, who says, you know, Mr. President, trade is actually quite good.
00:21:04.000If you cut down on trade, the people that hurts most are people in the rust belt who actually need to export product in order to make a living.
00:21:10.000And maybe if you like tariffs, what you should do is you should use it as a retaliatory measure.
00:21:14.000So use it as a way to ratchet down tariffs from other countries.
00:21:16.000So President Trump tends to give two sort of conflicting messages with regard to trade.
00:21:31.000Because if the president actually wanted to negotiate a lowering of trade barriers, a lowering of tariffs, he obviously could do that.
00:21:40.000But he'd actually have to spend some time negotiating that.
00:21:43.000He couldn't just start raising trade barriers and then suggesting the trade barriers themselves are wonderful.
00:21:48.000So in just a second, I want to talk about what President Trump had to say at the G7, and why it ended up undercutting a lot of his agenda, why it was actually kind of foolish.
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00:24:09.000We did not lose $817 billion on trade.
00:24:11.000When I give my money to a Chinese company, that Chinese company cannot spend those dollars in China.
00:24:16.000It has to then spend those dollars on American products or services or investments.
00:24:19.000The Chinese have largely been using that money to buy American bonds and fund the national debt that nobody in the government seems to give any craps about.
00:25:16.000So here's Trump saying that he doesn't like trade deficits and we can't lose.
00:25:20.000He says if we increase tariffs, we can't lose.
00:25:21.000Well, no, that's not the point, right?
00:25:24.000The idea here is that if you're increasing tariffs, you are losing, but you're attempting to leverage the other side into stopping their own tariffs.
00:25:31.000But Trump seems to be a little confused on the policy.
00:25:35.000And as an example, with one country, we have $375 billion in trade deficits.
00:26:10.000And we have very, very strong measures that take care of that because we do so much
00:26:17.000The numbers are so astronomically against them, in terms of anything, as per your question.
00:26:24.000We win that war a thousand times out of a thousand.
00:26:27.000Right, so on the one hand he keeps saying, I want zero tariffs, I want no barriers, and on the other hand he says, we can go to war and we can win, and trade wars are very easy.
00:27:43.000The people the leaders of these countries has been I would really rate it on a scale of 0 to 10 I would rate it a 10 that doesn't mean I agree with what they're doing and they know very well that I don't so we're negotiating very hard tariffs and barriers a lot of these countries actually smile at me when I'm talking and the smile is
00:28:08.000We couldn't believe we got away with it.
00:28:30.000Does anyone really believe, by the way, that all of these countries sit down across from the president of the United States and he says, you guys are screwing us on trade?
00:28:36.000And they start smiling knowingly, like, yeah, we know we're screwing you on trade, dude.
00:28:39.000Or is it they're smiling because he doesn't know what he's talking about on trade?
00:28:43.000Now, again, as I say, you can use tariffs as a way to ratchet down other tariffs.
00:29:04.000And along the way, we're going to have to clean up the international trading system, about which there was virtual consensus of agreement on that.
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00:31:23.000But none of this really would have mattered in terms of the outcome from the G7.
00:31:27.000Everybody sort of would have futzed their way through it, except that the other countries were not willing to sit by and let Trump do this routine.
00:31:33.000So Justin Trudeau, who's handsome Bernie Sanders, he is still more pro-free trade than President Trump.
00:31:41.000There was talk yesterday about his eyebrow coming down his face, that his eyebrow actually came loose.
00:31:49.000If you can see this visually, then you see that his left eyebrow appears to be sliding down his face as though he's wearing weird
00:31:56.000It would be with regret, but it would be with absolute certainty and firmness that we move forward with retaliatory measures on July 1st, applying equivalent
00:32:25.000tariffs to the ones that the Americans have unjustly applied to us.
00:32:31.000I have made it very clear to the President that it is not something we relish doing, but it is something that we absolutely will do.
00:32:39.000Because Canadians, we're polite, we're reasonable, but we also will not be pushed around.
00:32:48.000So Trump got very angry because Justin Trudeau said that Trump had basically started this trade war, which is kind of true.
00:32:53.000I mean, we didn't have a trade war until five minutes ago, and then Trump decided that he was going to raise tariffs, supposedly because he wanted to lower tariffs in Canada, but really because he kind of likes tariffs.
00:33:01.000And this caused President Trump to start tweeting, right?
00:33:08.000Okay, the truth is, trade barriers have been lowered over the course of many decades to the point where the average trade barrier Canada to the U.S., their products are like 1.6%.
00:33:13.000Okay, these are not massive trade barriers in most cases.
00:34:02.000It's not going to be good for the economy.
00:34:03.000The White House's own report suggests this won't be good for the economy.
00:34:07.000If you were arguing, again, that you're raising the tariffs in order to knock Canada so that they knock down their own tariffs, that's one thing, but that's not where Trump goes next.
00:34:14.000Trump continues along these lines, and then he suggests
00:34:17.000Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada acted so meek and mild during our G7 conference only to give a news conference after I left saying U.S.
00:34:23.000tariffs were kind of insulting and he will not be pushed around.
00:34:32.000He picks out one tariff, and then he says we're going to raise tariffs on, like, everything, and then he says it's Justin Trudeau's fault for kicking back on all of this stuff.
00:34:38.000See, this is why you should have a negotiation, not a Twitter fight, or go in there with an actual agenda, which President Trump obviously did not do.
00:34:45.000And, again, like, I am not a Justin Trudeau fan.
00:34:47.000I've mocked Justin Trudeau as hard as anybody on the air.
00:37:16.000There's just a bunch of weird little food stands, and they sell crappy garbage, apparently, to Justin Trudeau and women who don't defend other women.
00:37:23.000Here's Peter Navarro saying that Justin Trudeau has now a special place in hell where everyone, I guess, says,
00:37:30.000Chris, there's a special place in hell for any foreign leader that engages in bad faith diplomacy with President Donald J. Trump and then tries to stab him in the back on the way out the door.
00:37:43.000And that's what bad faith Justin Trudeau did with that stunt press conference.
00:37:47.000That's what weak, dishonest Justin Trudeau did.
00:37:51.000Okay, so, look, the reality is that a lot of the people on TV are performing for President Trump, demonstrating that they agree with President Trump, this is how you stay in good with President Trump.
00:37:59.000It's one of the problems I have with his style of governance, which is that the President likes to feel like a strong man, and so he likes when people around him say yes to him and say, yes, Mr. President, what you did was so genius, Mr. President.
00:38:09.000If Larry Kudlow wants to impact free trade, he has to go on TV and pretend that Trump is actually a free trader.
00:38:13.000But, if anybody believes this is going to hurt Trump, they are wrong.
00:38:16.000They are totally wrong if they believe this is going to hurt Trump in any serious way.
00:39:40.000Now, meanwhile, I have to bring you this story from The Washington Post, because it's just insane.
00:39:44.000There's an opinion column by Susanna DeNuda Walters, a professor of uselessness, sociology, and director of the Women's Gender and Sexuality Studies Program at Northeastern University, where they study a bunch of crap that they pay her for.
00:40:23.000It says, it's not that Eric Schneiderman, the now former New York Attorney General accused of abuse by multiple women, pushed me over the edge.
00:40:29.000My edge has been crossed for a long time, before President Trump, before Harvey Weinstein, before mansplaining and incels, before live-streaming sexual assaults in red pill men's groups and rape camps as a tool of war and the deadening banality of male prerogative.
00:40:41.000Seen in this indisputably true context, it seems logical to hate men.
00:40:51.000If that's people who believe that women are not generally being discriminated against in American society, I guess that's me, but I don't know why that's sexist.
00:41:05.000Just for naming the problem in no uncertain terms.
00:41:08.000I've rankled at the but-we-don't-hate-men protestations of generations of would-be feminists and found the men-are-not-the-problem-this-system-is obfuscation too precious by half.
00:41:15.000But of course, the criticisms of this blanket condemnation of men from transnational feminists who decry such glib universalism to U.S.
00:41:22.000women of color who demand an intersectional perspective are mostly on the mark.
00:41:25.000These critics rightly insist on an analysis of male power as institutional,
00:41:29.000Not narrowly personal or individual or biologically based in male bodies.
00:41:33.000Growing movement to challenge masculinity, built on domination and violence, and to engage boys and men in feminism, both gratifying and necessary.
00:41:59.000There is sexual violence in the United States, but the notion that women across the United States are victimized by sexual violence is just bullcrap.
00:42:24.000Catcalls, whistles, these are not good things.
00:42:25.000But to proclaim that this is sexual violence, that means that all men are evil, is idiotic.
00:42:30.000In addition, she says, male violence is not restricted to intimate partner attacks or sexual assault, but plagues us in the form of terrorism and mass gun violence.
00:42:38.000So apparently when there's a mass shooting, it's women who are being targeted, which we have no evidence for.
00:42:42.000And then she finally concludes, it is long past time to play hard for team feminism and win.
00:44:51.000Depth of mind, depth of curiosity, and a truly profound soul.
00:44:55.000So the world will be lesser for his loss.
00:44:58.000Thank God that we all had the experience of getting to watch Charles Krauthammer at work.
00:45:02.000A wordsmith and a deep thinker at the same time, which is an amazing thing.
00:45:05.000Okay, time for some things that I hate.
00:45:10.000So speaking of people who are not wordsmiths or deep thinkers, let's talk about the Tony Awards last night.
00:45:15.000So the Tony Awards happened last night and apparently the deep thinkers at the Tony Awards felt the necessity to virtue signal to all of their friends in the theater industry.
00:46:18.000And the explanation, I mean, the real fulsome explanation of why he opposes President Trump there really is quite meaningful.
00:46:25.000I will say, like, I thought it was a convincing case, a beautifully convincing case by Robert De Niro for why you shouldn't support President Trump.
00:46:31.000And good for, what an amazing dude Robert De Niro is.
00:46:46.000So Angels in America, you'll remember as a tendentious, overlong, ridiculous, crappy TV series from HBO starring half of Hollywood.
00:46:52.000It was like a nine-hour meditation on homosexuality in America from like 1960s on.
00:46:58.000And they made a seven-hour Wagnerian production of it for Broadway in which Andrew Garfield plays a young gay man suffering from AIDS.
00:47:05.000And Andrew Garfield gets up at the Tony Awards where
00:47:08.000A quarter of the audience probably is gay.
00:47:10.000And he starts lecturing Americans in front of the cameras about the Masterpiece Cake Shop case because he doesn't know anything about law or about, apparently, decency.
00:47:19.000So he gets up and then he starts talking about, let's down with the Supreme Court.
00:47:24.000So we had Robert De Niro, F. Trump, and now we have Andrew Garfield speaking from the heart about why Christians should be forced to violate their own religious precepts.
00:47:31.000We are all sacred and we all belong, so let's just bake a cake for everyone who wants a cake to be baked!
00:47:42.000I ask you, Andrew Garfield, I'm going to write a play about Masterpiece Cake Shop.
00:47:45.000It's about how the Christian family in that case was victimized by vindictive LGBT activists and who almost ruined their business and destroyed their lives.
00:47:53.000I would like Andrew Garfield to play the lead as the Christian man who refused service to the same sex wedding out of religious conviction and then almost had his life destroyed by a bunch of vindictive bureaucrats.
00:49:07.000Even though he's in the public square, even though he's operating in the area of commerce, I don't get to do that.
00:49:13.000But according to Andrew Garfield, everybody else should have to do that because he is upset that gay weddings aren't going to get the cake from the Christian shop as opposed to the cake from every other bake shop in America owned by a gay person.
00:49:25.000It's ridiculous, and it's over-the-top, and again, it's virtue signaling in front of a bunch of people who agree with him, and so he gets big cheers for that.
00:49:31.000If he wanted to actually be brave, he should have gone out there and said, we all need to tolerate one another, and that means that I'm willing to tolerate the Christian baker who doesn't want to cater to my same-sex wedding, and the Christian baker should tolerate me when I come in and ask for a cake.
00:49:44.000Instead, he wants to engage in a bit of, let me tell you what to do, which is what the entire left apparently wants to do now, so that's just wonderful.
00:50:46.000Sorry if that hurts people, but it's either root for a recession or you lose your democracy.
00:50:51.000Okay, so, root for a recession or you lose your democracy, or maybe you just make the case against Trump in terms that are rational, and then we can all decide whether that's convincing or not.
00:51:01.000But, you know, when you're now rooting for millions of people to be thrown out of work because you want to see it have a bad impact on the president of the United States, I would say that's probably not a good thing.
00:51:10.000Okay, we'll be back here tomorrow with all the latest.