The Ben Shapiro Show - The Attack On Capitalism | Ep. 641

00:00:00.000 The attack on capitalism ramps up, scientists fear the alt-right, and the media cannot get over Herstace.

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00:02:16.000 I want to talk about a broad issue that is now happening in American politics and that is a sudden lack of interest in or enthusiasm for capitalism.

00:02:26.000 The greatest system of markets ever devised by mankind.

00:02:31.000 Free markets which have raised half the globe from abject poverty in the last 30 years alone.

00:02:35.000 Free markets which have created the kind of prosperity in which you get to sit there and enjoy entertaining shows every single night from people like me just by sitting there.

00:02:47.000 Just imagine a world 150 years ago where most people's homes were lit not by electricity, but by candlelight, where heat was not a thing, where people died when it was cold outside and died when it was super hot outside, when disease was rampant, when entertainment mainly consisted, if you were lucky, if you were lucky, of reading around a fire, but very often consisted of less than that.

00:03:09.000 I mean, the reality is that your life now is so unthinkably great in terms of material prosperity that if somebody were dropped into 2018 from 1870, they would literally not know what had happened.

00:03:23.000 They would think that they were on an alien planet inhabited by a species similar to the one that they knew back home, but in an area of complete

00:03:31.000 Material prosperity.

00:03:32.000 They would think they were almost literally in heaven.

00:03:34.000 Remember, like one in three kids, one in four kids in families were dying in large swaths of Europe.

00:03:40.000 And child mortality in the United States was a lot higher.

00:03:42.000 I mean, today you have a baby, you can pretty much expect that baby to live till the age of 80.

00:03:47.000 This is amazing, amazing stuff.

00:03:48.000 And that has been brought about by free markets and capitalism and entrepreneurialism.

00:03:52.000 So naturally, that means that we're now going to eat free markets, capitalism and entrepreneurialism.

00:03:55.000 We're going to dump all over them.

00:03:58.000 And there are a bunch of stories today along these lines.

00:04:01.000 The top one that comes to mind is there is one from Kim Kelly over at Teen Vogue.

00:04:06.000 Now, this is an older piece.

00:04:07.000 It's from April of this year, but Teen Vogue tweeted it out again yesterday.

00:04:11.000 It should be noted, Teen Vogue is supported by ad dollars.

00:04:14.000 And they make all of their money by running stories about the latest products that you can buy.

00:04:19.000 But they ran a piece called, What Capitalism Is and How It Affects People.

00:04:23.000 And the tweet from Teen Vogue was, Why Capitalism Needs to End.

00:04:28.000 Okay, Kim Kelly wrote this at Teen Vokes.

00:04:30.000 They're trying to teach teenage girls this.

00:04:47.000 Throughout history, other countries have embraced other systems like socialism or communism.

00:04:51.000 So it's important to explore what capitalism actually is.

00:04:55.000 CNN recently reported that 66% of people between the ages of 21 and 32 have nothing saved for retirement.

00:05:01.000 However, according to Salon, the reason many millennials haven't been investing in mutual funds or building up their own financial nest eggs isn't because they're too broke or that they lack personal responsibility.

00:05:10.000 It's because they think our current economic system, capitalism, will cease to exist by the time they are in their 60s.

00:05:16.000 In other words, they think that somebody else is going to come along and pay their bills.

00:05:19.000 Bernie Sanders is going to come out of the sky and pay their bills.

00:05:22.000 Capitalism has become markedly less popular among the younger generations, with the Washington Post noting in April 2016 that in one survey, a majority of young adults aged 18 to 29 said they rejected it outright.

00:05:34.000 And this article goes on to try to explain where capitalism comes from.

00:05:38.000 They say that capitalism is evil because individual capitalists are typically wealthy people who have a large amount of capital invested in business.

00:05:46.000 This is false.

00:05:47.000 Individual capitalists are anyone operating in a free market system and selling their labor or their products of their labor.

00:05:53.000 That is a capitalist.

00:05:54.000 Anybody who is involved in the free market is a capitalist.

00:05:56.000 You don't actually have to be the person who is hiring somebody else in order to be a capitalist.

00:06:01.000 As long as you are investing your capital even in buying products, that makes you a capitalist.

00:06:06.000 But she continues, these are the people who benefit from the system of capitalism by making increased profits and thereby adding to their wealth.

00:06:12.000 A capitalist nation is dominated by the free market, which is an economic system in which both prices and production are dictated by corporations and private companies in competition with one another.

00:06:21.000 Again, false.

00:06:23.000 Capitalism is a free market system in which prices are dictated by what competitors are willing to sell and what, more importantly, consumers are willing to buy.

00:06:31.000 If you're in a business where no one wants your product, you don't get to set the price where you want to set it.

00:06:35.000 If I could, I would sell this podcast for a million dollars per listener.

00:06:39.000 I cannot, because the market does not bear that price.

00:06:41.000 The same thing is true in your business as well.

00:06:44.000 But these basic misunderstandings about the free market lead to the idea that the free market is somehow oligarchic, when in reality, the free market is the most democratic system of property ownership ever devised by humankind.

00:06:56.000 It says that you are the owner of your own labor and your own time.

00:06:59.000 It says that you are the owner of the product of your own hands.

00:07:02.000 But according to Kim Kelly at Teen Vogue, our great economic, clear thinking source, she says, All of which is true.

00:07:10.000 Generally these tend to be toward the right of the political spectrum.

00:07:19.000 And then she says, how does capitalism impact people?

00:07:21.000 Well, it depends on whether you're a worker or a boss.

00:07:24.000 If you own a company or employ the workers, capitalism may make sense.

00:07:28.000 But if you are not, then it's bad for you.

00:07:31.000 That's a bunch of nonsense.

00:07:32.000 OK, capitalism, again, has raised the globe from abject poverty.

00:07:36.000 It's the reason why you have cool stuff today.

00:07:39.000 So, why do people oppose capitalism?

00:07:41.000 Well, anti-capitalists view capitalism as inhuman, anti-democratic, unsustainable, deeply exploitative, and say it must be dismantled.

00:07:48.000 They see it as inherently at odds with democracy because of how capitalist bosses hold power over workers in the workplace and the fact that the more capital one accrues, the more power they have.

00:07:57.000 Again, untrue.

00:07:58.000 Richer people do not have more power over other individual human beings than poorer people do because they can't compel you to do anything. 1.00

00:08:05.000 It's when regulatory capture takes place that they have more power.

00:08:08.000 Power is not just... Power is not just being rich.

00:08:12.000 Power is, are you pointing a gun at somebody?

00:08:14.000 Power does issue from the muzzle of a gun.

00:08:17.000 It does not issue simply by basis of being rich.

00:08:21.000 How many times has a rich person asked you to do something just in your life and you've said no?

00:08:26.000 Probably fairly often.

00:08:27.000 I'm not even talking about things they're offering to hire you to do.

00:08:30.000 If they offer to pay you something, that is not power.

00:08:34.000 That is them offering you a consensual exchange and you saying yes.

00:08:39.000 In any case, the enthusiasm for capitalism has fallen away because everybody gets to be the product of a capitalist system.

00:08:45.000 We all get to live extraordinarily wealthy, long, healthy lives because of capitalism, so that gives us the ability to crap all over it.

00:08:52.000 The same way that spoiled brats yell at their parents who have spoiled them, we are yelling at free markets that have spoiled us, too.

00:08:59.000 The latest evidence of this is also Pope Francis talking with Michael Moore during his weekly general audience in St.

00:09:06.000 Peter's Square at the Vatican.

00:09:08.000 The current Pope is not a friend to capitalism.

00:09:10.000 He's a liberation theologist.

00:09:12.000 He believes that progressive economics ought to be wedded to the Gospels.

00:09:16.000 And therefore, he has constantly talked about the shortcomings of free markets as though the alternative government-controlled distribution of resources is going to be superior, even though it has not been.

00:09:28.000 And even the supposedly socialist countries that folks on the left like to talk about, the Nordic countries, Norway and Denmark and all the Scandinavian countries,

00:09:37.000 Sweden.

00:09:38.000 Those are all capitalist countries with socialist redistribution systems piled on top of them.

00:09:42.000 The question for those countries is how long you can keep piling elephants on top of stilts and hope that the stilts continue to support that weight.

00:09:50.000 The stilts are capitalism, the elephants are socialism.

00:09:53.000 It is not that the entire system is socialism.

00:09:55.000 But the Pope meeting with Michael Moore is pretty indicative of where we are.

00:09:59.000 And then we have a much ballyhooed proposal from Kamala Harris, the senator from California, who is just awful. 1.00

00:10:05.000 I know, she's my senator. 0.71

00:10:06.000 She is proposing what they call a Trump-sized tax plan of her own. 1.00

00:10:11.000 The Atlantic, doing yeoman's work to try and suggest that a tax plan is basically just redistribution of resources.

00:10:17.000 Here's the Atlantic reporting on Kamala Harris's new tax plan.

00:10:19.000 And this is the way Democrats are going to run here.

00:10:21.000 The way that Democrats are going to run

00:10:24.000 And this is an example of it.

00:10:25.000 Here's her proposal.

00:10:35.000 One that would, instead of slashing rates on high-income households and corporations, push huge credits out to middle-income and poor families.

00:10:43.000 The Lift the Middle Class Act would provide monthly cash payments of up to $500 to lower-income families, on top of the tax credits and public benefits they already receive.

00:10:52.000 Last year, Congress gave a trillion dollars in tax breaks to corporations.

00:10:55.000 Harris told me that money should have gone to American taxpayers who need it instead of handing it over to corporations and the top 1%.

00:11:04.000 Now, the fact is that the people at the bottom of the spectrum, the people at the bottom of the spectrum, are not actually paying any tax right now.

00:11:12.000 They are receiving net tax benefits.

00:11:14.000 Okay?

00:11:14.000 The people who are paying all of the taxes, and I mean literally all of the taxes in the United States, all of the net taxes in the United States, are the wealthy in the United States.

00:11:23.000 Okay?

00:11:23.000 The wealthy in the United States are paying far more than their fair share.

00:11:28.000 It is just a lie that people at the bottom of the economic spectrum are paying the tax burden in the United States.

00:11:33.000 We have the most progressive tax system on planet Earth, and yes, that includes the Scandinavian countries.

00:11:37.000 The lie about the Scandinavian countries is that they are progressive in their tax structure.

00:11:41.000 They are not.

00:11:42.000 They heavily tax people at the bottom of the lower end of the economic spectrum as well, because you have to pay for stuff.

00:11:48.000 But Democrats don't want to pay for stuff. 1.00

00:11:49.000 And as we'll see as we examine Kamala Harris's supposed tax plan, she's not talking about paying for stuff. 0.99

00:11:55.000 Instead what she's talking about is essentially forcing Republicans to raise taxes on the wealthy or forcing us to take out inordinate amounts of debt that will inevitably have to be paid for either through inflation

00:12:08.000 Or through higher taxes, not just on people who are rich, but on everyone.

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00:13:19.000 So Kamala Harris is basically suggesting that this is a tax plan to sign checks to people who don't actually pay taxes. 0.74

00:13:24.000 This is the great lie that Democrats and the media are constantly telling about things like the Trump tax cut.

00:13:30.000 When they suggest that it's skewed toward the wealthy, the only reason tax cuts are skewed toward the wealthy is because the wealthy are the only people paying taxes in the United States.

00:13:39.000 People at the lower end of the economic spectrum are not paying income taxes.

00:13:43.000 They are not paying income taxes.

00:13:45.000 Again, the net taxes that are paid by the wealthy, they pay for 97% of all government expenditures.

00:13:53.000 Those in the top half of the income bracket are paying virtually everything.

00:13:57.000 Virtually everything.

00:13:59.000 As of 2015, this was the case.

00:14:01.000 The top 10% of Americans pay two-thirds of the income tax.

00:14:04.000 The bottom 50% of all Americans with an income below the median pay 3%, 3% of the total income tax.

00:14:12.000 We have one of the most progressive tax systems in the world.

00:14:16.000 So it's just a lie that people who are rich are not paying their fair share.

00:14:19.000 But Kamala Harris really just wants to pay off a bunch of poor people to vote for her. 1.00

00:14:23.000 That's basically her plan.

00:14:24.000 Her proposal joins a growing number of aggressive plans coming from Democrats concerned with economic stagnation, competing to win over younger and more progressive voters, and emboldened by the success of President Trump.

00:14:34.000 They differ in their mechanisms, costs, and effects, but all point to the same Robin Hood goal, not just raising taxes on the rich, but shunting vastly more money to the working classes and the poor.

00:14:44.000 In Harris's case, that means something like $200 billion a year more.

00:14:49.000 Now, again, it is important to notice that in the United States, the amount of benefits that are being received by people at the low end of the economic spectrum, it's tens of thousands of dollars in very many cases.

00:15:01.000 I mean, there have been a lot of studies that have been done on this particular issue, benefits received by people who are lower income in the United States.

00:15:10.000 The numbers are pretty astonishing.

00:15:13.000 The folks who receive benefits, 49% of the population as of 2011 lived in a household where at least one member received a direct benefit from the federal government.

00:15:23.000 The number of households receiving government benefits has steadily risen over time.

00:15:28.000 And those benefits are almost entirely going to people who are in the lower half of the economic spectrum.

00:15:35.000 So those are the entitlements that include things like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, children's health insurance, food stamps, school lunch programs, the earned income tax credits.

00:15:43.000 In 2010, the Tax Foundation found that 60% of Americans were receiving more in government benefits than they paid in taxes.

00:15:51.000 So, again, the folks who are receiving the government benefits are now the people that Harris basically wants to give more government benefits to.

00:15:58.000 Now, I'll explain in one second why this is a bad idea.

00:16:01.000 To continue with Harris's tax plan, she's offering as much as $3,000 a year for a single person or $6,000 a year for a married couple on top of existing tax and transfer programs dispersed either as a lump-sum tax refund or as monthly payment.

00:16:15.000 As many as 80 million Americans would benefit.

00:16:17.000 So who is going to pay for all of this?

00:16:19.000 The answer is that they don't care.

00:16:21.000 That really is the answer.

00:16:22.000 They say that this is going to jog the economy because if you give a bunch of money to people at the bottom end of the economic spectrum, this is what creates economic growth.

00:16:29.000 That is not true.

00:16:30.000 It has never been true.

00:16:31.000 What jogs economic growth is the creation of new products and services that create new jobs and that also allow people to buy cooler stuff.

00:16:39.000 Socialism is about freezing the economy in place and redistributing all the pie that's in the room.

00:16:46.000 Capitalism is about expanding the size of the pie.

00:16:49.000 Now, that doesn't mean that everybody is going to get an equal distribution of the pie, but it does mean that you're going to be able to generate new and better types of pie, bigger pie, everything that makes pie awesome.

00:16:59.000 Otherwise, you can just freeze it and distribute it until there's no pie left.

00:17:02.000 That's basically the socialist model.

00:17:04.000 So, where are they going to pay for all of this?

00:17:06.000 I love how The Atlantic describes Kamala Harris' proposal.

00:17:09.000 Of course, the federal proposals would come at significant cost.

00:17:12.000 In some cases, on the scale of the Trump tax cuts or the Affordable Care Act.

00:17:15.000 Those are not the same thing.

00:17:17.000 Trump's tax cuts are not things that cost money.

00:17:20.000 They are me paying less money into the federal government.

00:17:22.000 That is not a federal cost.

00:17:24.000 A federal cost is you spending my money, not you telling me I get to keep my own money.

00:17:29.000 It is not a cost to let someone keep their own money.

00:17:33.000 The way that this is measured is insane.

00:17:35.000 Suggesting the Affordable Care Act, which is a government expenditure based on tax receipts, is the same thing as cutting tax receipts by saying that people can keep their own money is a slight of hand, a fiscal slight of hand.

00:17:46.000 The Brown legislation would cost $1.4 trillion over a decade.

00:17:50.000 The Harris legislation would come in at something like $200 billion per year, which means $2 trillion over the course of a decade.

00:17:57.000 Harris has proposed repealing the Trump tax cuts to pay for her bill, but that is not even going to come close to covering the kind of cost she's talking about. 0.51

00:18:03.000 And they're talking about universal health care, and they're talking about free child welfare, and they are talking about free child care, and they are talking about free college tuition.

00:18:12.000 None of this stuff is going to get paid for.

00:18:15.000 So why is there all this enthusiasm for this sort of stuff in a time when we have, as of yesterday, 7 million unfilled jobs in the United States, a 4% unemployment rate, and a historically booming economy?

00:18:27.000 Why are we talking about undermining the pillars of capitalism?

00:18:31.000 Because we have shifted our mindset in the United States.

00:18:34.000 And this is really what I want to talk about today.

00:18:36.000 We have shifted our mindset when it comes to what our lives should be like.

00:18:41.000 We believe we are guaranteed things here in the United States.

00:18:43.000 We believe that we are guaranteed a solid level of living because we live here.

00:18:46.000 You hear this from Bernie Sanders all the time.

00:18:48.000 In the richest country in the world, should we really have people who do not have enough money to buy all the pudding that they could possibly want?

00:18:57.000 You hear that from Bernie Sanders all the time.

00:18:59.000 The assumption there being, you were born here, you deserve stuff.

00:19:03.000 You were born here, therefore America's rich, therefore you get stuff.

00:19:07.000 A baseline assumption that you are entitled to things.

00:19:10.000 Here is what you are entitled to in a free country.

00:19:12.000 You're entitled to adventure.

00:19:14.000 That's what you're entitled to.

00:19:15.000 You are born entitled to exercise your rights in pursuit of adventure.

00:19:19.000 You get to make up your own story here.

00:19:21.000 That's the American dream.

00:19:23.000 The American dream is people who are coming from across the sea to a place they did not know, to an environment they were not used to, and building lives for their families and creating prosperity from the ground up.

00:19:36.000 The American story is people crossing the Appalachians into wilderness they did not know, places that had not been mapped.

00:19:43.000 Going to areas where they had no allies, setting down roots and trying to build towns and civilizations.

00:19:50.000 That's the American story. 0.57

00:19:50.000 The American story is poor folks who have an idea and go find funding for that idea and then build that idea into some of the great companies in American history. 0.57

00:20:00.000 That's the American dream.

00:20:01.000 The American dream was never, you're here, therefore we give you things.

00:20:05.000 That was never the American idea.

00:20:07.000 And that's not to say that we can't be generous.

00:20:08.000 That's what private charity is for.

00:20:11.000 That's why we need a virtuous citizenry where we take care of each other.

00:20:14.000 But the American dream has shifted now.

00:20:16.000 And what we're told by the left is that the American dream is going unfulfilled if you do not have a certain standard of living provided to you by others.

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00:21:40.000 So, the American mindset has shifted radically.

00:21:42.000 And you can tell this in a couple of ways.

00:21:44.000 So, did you ever see the movie Cinderella Man with Russell Crowe?

00:21:48.000 It's about Jim Braddock.

00:21:48.000 So, Jim Braddock was this over-the-hill boxer who

00:21:53.000 Basically had played out the string and was given a shot at the World Heavyweight Championship.

00:22:00.000 And for a while, he's on the dole.

00:22:01.000 It's the middle of the Great Depression.

00:22:02.000 He's on the dole and he takes money from the federal government.

00:22:07.000 After he wins the championship, he walks back into the welfare office with a roll of cash, and he hands it back to the welfare office.

00:22:12.000 And they say, sir, you don't need to pay that back.

00:22:14.000 And he says, yes, I do.

00:22:16.000 How many Americans today would actually do that?

00:22:19.000 How many Americans today, if they made the money, would walk back into the welfare office and turn the money back over to the welfare office?

00:22:26.000 I think the answer is pretty close to zero.

00:22:28.000 I think most Americans don't have any sense of shame or guilt about taking money from other folks.

00:22:33.000 They don't have any sense that if they could prevent it, it would be better for them not to take that money.

00:22:39.000 I think people feel in the United States that they are entitled to money because the government is nameless and faceless.

00:22:44.000 See, here's one of the nice things about charity, as opposed to the way that it works on the governmental level.

00:22:48.000 The government makes it seem as though the government is handing you the money.

00:22:51.000 The government has no money of its own.

00:22:53.000 The government is taking from me and giving to you, or taking from you and giving to me, or taking from the future and giving it to us now.

00:23:00.000 The government is not a repository of magical money trees.

00:23:03.000 There is no money forest.

00:23:05.000 But the government presents you with the idea that there is.

00:23:08.000 So, when the government signs you a check, you don't have to feel guilty about anything.

00:23:11.000 It's just receiving free money, after all.

00:23:14.000 However, when it comes to charity, and there are folks in my community, my Jewish community, who receive charity, they feel terrible about it.

00:23:22.000 You can see that.

00:23:23.000 You can see they feel terrible about it.

00:23:25.000 And I think that's a good thing.

00:23:27.000 I think it's a good thing.

00:23:28.000 I think you should feel bad about taking charity as long as you, because that's what's going to encourage you to not stay on the dole.

00:23:36.000 It's going to encourage you to get out there and work.

00:23:38.000 It's going to encourage you to make a move toward prosperity so you can pay all those people back.

00:23:44.000 If you see the money that you are receiving,

00:23:46.000 As a step toward getting your feet under you once again so that you can pay people back.

00:23:52.000 It's a much better way of viewing money and money is growing for free and that you can just take it no matter at any time at any place.

00:24:00.000 It's just a lack of entrepreneurial spirit.

00:24:03.000 And unfortunately, I think that that's the way that we're going in the United States.

00:24:07.000 That's example number one.

00:24:09.000 Example number two, there's a lot of talk these days

00:24:13.000 And by the way, this exists as well in places like Norway.

00:24:18.000 So Norway, which is prized, loved by folks on the American left, they ignore the fact that Norway actually has become a place where the work ethic is starting to collapse.

00:24:29.000 The Economist wrote in 2015, Norwegians have coined a verb to NAV, meaning to get money from NAV, the state's benefit agency.

00:24:37.000 You actually see this happening where people

00:24:40.000 Believe that they are entitled to things.

00:24:41.000 The very fact that we call these benefits entitlements as opposed to benefits is suggestive of this fact.

00:24:47.000 That's point number one.

00:24:47.000 Point number two.

00:24:49.000 The idea of picking up and moving.

00:24:50.000 We are the most mobile society in the history of mankind.

00:24:53.000 It is easier to get from one place to another on planet Earth faster than any time in the history of humankind.

00:25:00.000 When we talk about our ancestors in the United States, we're thinking of people in covered wagons taking six months to cross the country.

00:25:05.000 You can do it in six hours now on a plane.

00:25:08.000 And for significantly less cost.

00:25:10.000 And yet we are now less mobile, right?

00:25:13.000 Fewer Americans are actually leaving their hometowns.

00:25:18.000 I mean, which is not a good thing.

00:25:20.000 We actually want people to go out there and seek adventure.

00:25:24.000 Right now, Americans are moving less often than they were, right?

00:25:29.000 This is an article from the New York Times.

00:25:31.000 Well, part of that is because of family.

00:25:33.000 I live very close to my parents.

00:25:34.000 But if I were to move, my parents would probably follow me, not the other way around.

00:25:53.000 If I want to live close to my family, you have to follow prosperity.

00:25:57.000 You have to follow adventure.

00:25:58.000 You have to follow the call.

00:26:00.000 You have to move.

00:26:01.000 But Americans don't feel that way anymore.

00:26:03.000 Americans feel like they're entitled to a job in their hometown where they grew up, at the factory where their parents worked. 0.90

00:26:08.000 That is not the way that human beings have worked for literally all of human history.

00:26:16.000 And yet now, we believe that in order to facilitate people being able to stay where they were originally based, we have to shift the way that the free market works.

00:26:25.000 Well, that's not correct.

00:26:28.000 And again, this is not coming out of a place of lack of sympathy.

00:26:31.000 This is coming from a place where I sympathize with people's plight.

00:26:34.000 And the question is, what can you do to make your life better?

00:26:37.000 Democrats, folks on the left, they like to talk about, what can we do to make your life better?

00:26:42.000 And the answer is, very little.

00:26:44.000 The real question is, what can you do to make your life better?

00:26:47.000 Because every successful person on planet Earth is a person who at some point said to themselves, what can I do to help myself?

00:26:54.000 America is a country of people saying to themselves, what can I do to help my lot in life?

00:26:59.000 What can I do to be more ambitious?

00:27:01.000 What can I do to stretch my wings and fly?

00:27:05.000 And then we say, OK, well, what can we do to provide that wind?

00:27:08.000 What can we do to get all the obstacles out of your way?

00:27:11.000 What can we do to remove the barriers?

00:27:13.000 That's the American way.

00:27:15.000 It is not the American way to say, listen, you know, it's uncomfortable to stretch your wings.

00:27:19.000 It may be difficult to leave home.

00:27:20.000 It may be hard to do this.

00:27:22.000 But, so we're just going to make sure you know you never have to.

00:27:27.000 We are going to coddle you.

00:27:29.000 We are going to make sure that you are swabbed in the warm blanket of government benefits.

00:27:33.000 We are going to ensure that you never have to get out there and fly.

00:27:36.000 Again, this is not coming from a place of no sympathy.

00:27:38.000 This is coming from a place of, you can't enervate your children, you can't enervate your communities, and you can't enervate your country on the basis of empathy alone.

00:27:46.000 And that is the best case interpretation of what exactly Democrats are doing here.

00:27:49.000 The worst case interpretation is something much more cynical.

00:27:52.000 The purposeful enervation of an entire sector of the population specifically to gain votes and thereby political power.

00:28:00.000 And after you look at towns like Detroit, it's hard to imagine that's not what's been going on there for decades.

00:28:04.000 Because the failure of this sort of thinking is evident in major cities and counties across the United States.

00:28:13.000 If you actually want to reinvigorate the American spirit, we're going to have to teach people the same lesson that God taught Abraham at the very beginning of the Bible.

00:28:23.000 Get up, leave the home that you were born in, and go to a place you do not know. 0.97

00:28:28.000 That's how we become bigger.

00:28:30.000 That's how we become better.

00:28:31.000 That's how lives become better.

00:28:32.000 That's how the world becomes better.

00:28:34.000 That's how trade becomes better.

00:28:35.000 It's why you have cool stuff.

00:28:37.000 It's why cultures become better, because they experience and bounce off of other cultures.

00:28:42.000 This notion that we can hunker down now because we've reached paradise and all we have to do is hunker down and live and redistribute what's in our backpacks.

00:28:50.000 Those backpacks are going to run out.

00:28:51.000 This is not the way any of this works.

00:28:53.000 Okay, so in just a second, I want to talk about this fascinating article in the New York Times about why scientists are now attempting to avoid actual research out of fear of the alt-right.

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00:30:15.000 OK, so we have a lot more news coming up, including a bunch of celebrities who decided they don't like fairy tales, which is real weird.

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00:31:21.000 So there's a fascinating article in the New York Times I want to talk about because it speaks to the lack of objectivity when it comes to the intersection with politics.

00:31:32.000 The article from the New York Times is titled, Why White Supremacists Are Chugging Milk and Why Geneticists Are Alarmed, which is a weird title.

00:31:39.000 And here's what they say.

00:31:39.000 It's from Amy Harmon.

00:31:42.000 Nowhere on the agenda of the annual meeting of the American Society of Human Genetics being held in San Diego this week is a topic plaguing many of its members, the recurring appropriation of the field's research in the name of white supremacy.

00:31:54.000 Sticking your neck out on political issues is difficult, said Jennifer Wagner, a bioethicist and president of the group's Social Issues Committee, who had sought to convene a panel on the racist misuse of genetics and found little traction.

00:32:05.000 But the specter of the field's ignominious past, which includes support for the American eugenics movement, looms large for many geneticists in light of today's white identity politics.

00:32:13.000 They also worry about how new tools that are allowing them to home in on the genetic basis of hot-button traits like intelligence will be misconstrued to fit racist ideologies.

00:32:22.000 This is an argument that I have on a pretty frequent basis with a friend of mine, Jane Koston, over at Vox.

00:32:27.000 Jane is black and

00:32:29.000 And I think rightly has great sensitivity.

00:32:32.000 I think everybody should have great sensitivity, but I think Jane would suggest that her background contributes to the sensitivity with regard to the racist past of the United States and the racist association between politics and bad science.

00:32:47.000 And so this has led to some serious conversations between the two of us about political correctness, about whether, in fact, there's an appropriate time to talk about IQ, for example, or standardized testing, for example, or about natural differences between men and women.

00:33:01.000 Like, when can you talk about biology without being condemned as a sexist or racist?

00:33:04.000 These are real issues that we have to discuss and take on head-on.

00:33:07.000 Unfortunately, the scientific community has decided to quash a lot of actual science because they are afraid that people who are racist are going to take that science out of context and then use that to club into submission a minority group.

00:33:18.000 And that's basically what this New York Times article is about.

00:33:20.000 It says, In recent months, some scientists have spotted distortions of their own academic papers in far-right internet forums.

00:33:26.000 Others have fielded confused queries about claims of white superiority wrapped in the jargon of human genetics.

00:33:31.000 Misconceptions about how genes factor into America's stark racial disparities have surfaced in the nation's increasingly heated arguments over school achievement gaps, immigration, and policing.

00:33:40.000 Instead of long-discounted proxies like skull circumference and family pedigrees, according to experts who track the far right, today's proponents of racial hierarchy are making their case by misinterpreting research on the human genome itself.

00:33:52.000 And in debates that have been largely limited to ivory tower forums, the scientists whose job it is to mine humanity's genetic variations for the collective good are grappling with how to respond.

00:34:01.000 Now, here's the real way to respond to all of this.

00:34:03.000 Put out the science, and then defend the science.

00:34:06.000 That's the way to respond to all of this.

00:34:07.000 Instead, the scientists, afraid that their science is going to be misappropriated, misinterpreted, or used for bad reasons, they have decided that they are going to simply quash all of this discussion internally.

00:34:19.000 John Novembri is a University of Chicago evolutionary biologist.

00:34:22.000 He says, One slide Dr. Novembri has folded into his recent talks depicts a group of white nationalists chugging milk at a 2017 gathering to draw attention to a genetic trait known to be more common in white people than others, the ability to digest lactose as adults.

00:34:43.000 It also shows a social media post from an account called Enter the Milk Zone, with a map lifted from a scientific journal article on the trait's evolutionary history.

00:34:51.000 In most of the world, the article explains, the gene that allows for the digestion of lactose switches off after childhood.

00:34:57.000 But with the arrival of the first cattle herders in Europe some 5,000 years ago, a chance mutation that left it turned on provided enough of a nutritional leg up that nearly all of those who survived eventually carried it.

00:35:07.000 And then the post shows a snippet of hate speech urging individuals of African ancestry to leave America, saying if you can't drink milk, you have to go back.

00:35:16.000 Well, so what?

00:35:18.000 I mean, so what? 1.00

00:35:19.000 They're idiots. 1.00

00:35:20.000 And one of the great ironies of white supremacists is they're the stupidest people on the planet. 1.00

00:35:25.000 They're constantly talking about how white people are superior and they're just dumbasses. 1.00

00:35:28.000 That's one of the things that's so funny. 1.00

00:35:29.000 It's like, if you're going to proclaim white superiority, then you really should send your best. 0.97

00:35:33.000 But as President Trump would say about Mexico, they're not sending their best. 0.97

00:35:36.000 The white supremacists are not sending their best. 1.00

00:35:38.000 They're sending idiots. 1.00

00:35:39.000 And they're like, oh yeah, white people, better than everybody else. 1.00

00:35:42.000 Also, I scored 1100 on my SATs.

00:35:46.000 In a commentary that accompanied the paper in the journal Genetics, Dr. Novembri warned that research is wrapped in numerous caveats that are likely to get lost in translations.

00:35:55.000 Because people are flaunting DNA ancestry tests indicating exclusively European heritage.

00:36:01.000 But the problem here is that we actually have to look at what science does have to say because it is a confounding factor when you look at attributing racism to America.

00:36:10.000 So take, for example, racial disparities in education.

00:36:15.000 So there's a lot of talk these days about affirmative action and whether people are performing at certain levels eligible to get them into college.

00:36:23.000 And the suggestion is that it is historic American racism that has led to the education gap in America's higher education system.

00:36:31.000 Well, an alternative would be that the test scores do not line up equally among various ethnic groups.

00:36:38.000 Right?

00:36:39.000 They just don't.

00:36:40.000 And that's true, not just with regard to black and white.

00:36:42.000 It's not true with regard to white and Asian.

00:36:44.000 White people score lower on the SATs than Asian people do, as a general matter in the United States.

00:36:49.000 How much of that is genetic?

00:36:50.000 How much of that happens to be environmental?

00:36:52.000 We don't actually know the answer to that.

00:36:53.000 That's a hotly fraught question in science.

00:36:56.000 But suggesting that racism is to blame for everything without looking at other confounding factors, like, for example, test scores, is a mistake and leads us to the wrong outcomes and leads us to the wrong measures to deal with those outcomes.

00:37:09.000 Genetics is not the answer to all of these disparities, but neither is racism. 0.78

00:37:13.000 Now, these are questions we have to be very careful about because obviously you don't want to give material to people who are suggesting that some people are inherently worse, or more evil, or more violent, or stupider because of the color of their skin.

00:37:28.000 Genetics doesn't line up that way, but you also have to look at questions of science because you are a scientist.

00:37:35.000 So it is fascinating to watch this debate play out in real time.

00:37:41.000 So there are doctors who have organized meetings of social scientists to discuss the social implications of the field's newest tools.

00:37:48.000 David Nelson, a Baylor College of Medicine geneticist, who's president of the Human Genetics Society, says it will not stay completely quiet on the issue.

00:37:54.000 They said there is no genetic evidence to support any racist ideology.

00:37:58.000 Which is true, because racism is a moral view, and genetics is a scientific view.

00:38:03.000 And scientific racism is the use of science in order to be racist.

00:38:06.000 It is not the use of science in order to pursue good ends.

00:38:11.000 So, if you're silencing research because you're afraid of how people are going to use that research, then I would suggest that you're misusing science, and we need to have some very hard conversations about actual science, actual problems, and actual solutions, without falling prey to the idea that because bad people are going to misuse the information, we have to quash the information itself.

00:38:27.000 OK, now, meanwhile, I have to discuss this, these insane, ridiculous stories today, the couple of insane and ridiculous stories.

00:38:35.000 So, number one, Keira Knightley says that she is not going to allow her daughter to watch The Little Mermaid or Cinderella. 1.00

00:38:43.000 Which makes perfect sense because she played in Pirates of the Caribbean, a woman who had to be saved by a man.

00:38:49.000 But here she is talking about she's not going to let her kids watch Disney movies.

00:38:55.000 I love how PopSugar covers this.

00:38:57.000 Keira Knightley has a strict parenting rule about Disney movies and the reason is spot on. 0.97

00:39:02.000 And what is her reason?

00:39:03.000 Let's hear it from Keira Knightley.

00:39:05.000 And she's banned from seeing certain children's movies, right?

00:39:09.000 Yeah.

00:39:10.000 What are they?

00:39:10.000 Cinderella.

00:39:11.000 Banned.

00:39:13.000 Because, you know, she waits around for a rich guy to rescue her. 1.00

00:39:16.000 Don't.

00:39:16.000 Rescue yourself, obviously.

00:39:18.000 Right.

00:39:21.000 And this is the one that I'm quite annoyed about, because I really like the film, but Little Mermaid.

00:39:26.000 I mean, the songs are great, but do not give your voice up for a man. 0.96

00:39:29.000 Hello.

00:39:30.000 Wow.

00:39:33.000 Okay, so Little Mermaid is immoral, but for other reasons. 0.85

00:39:35.000 Little Mermaid is about a girl who decides to disobey her father, leave her culture, and go gallivanting around, even though she knows that her father is going to be turned into, like, a nematode.

00:39:46.000 So that Little Mermaid has some serious problems with it. 0.99

00:39:50.000 But, Cinderella?

00:39:52.000 Really?

00:39:52.000 The message of Cinderella is wait around to be saved by a man?

00:39:55.000 First of all, has she seen the modern version?

00:39:57.000 The modern version is great.

00:39:59.000 Have you guys seen the modern version of Cinderella?

00:40:00.000 Like Justin and Senya?

00:40:02.000 The one directed by Kenneth Branagh?

00:40:04.000 It's terrific.

00:40:04.000 It's a terrific, terrific film.

00:40:06.000 It's really good.

00:40:07.000 And if you think that Cinderella is supposed to be some sort of shrinking violet, you haven't even watched the original Cinderella.

00:40:12.000 The original Cinderella, she's kind of sassy. 1.00

00:40:14.000 If you go back and you watch it, it's actually true.

00:40:17.000 But,

00:40:17.000 This idea, women can't be saved by men.

00:40:20.000 Women, save yourselves. 1.00

00:40:20.000 Listen, women should be independent. 1.00

00:40:22.000 Women should save themselves. 1.00

00:40:23.000 Also, there are situations in which women need men. 0.72

00:40:27.000 It's called all of human history.

00:40:29.000 And there are situations in which men need women, also called all of human history, but need each other in different ways.

00:40:35.000 One of the great annoyances that I have with some of the modern Disney films is that every single Disney film is now concerned with this idea

00:40:42.000 That women are deeply independent and they do not need a man.

00:40:45.000 It's one of the reasons why Frozen is much more popular with critics than Tangled was, even though Tangled is by far the superior movie.

00:40:51.000 Because Tangled is about, yes, an independent young girl, but also about the guy she falls in love with who has to actually perform heroic feats in order to help her.

00:41:00.000 That's okay.

00:41:01.000 That's good for boys.

00:41:02.000 And guess what?

00:41:02.000 That doesn't mean that girls can always count on guys to save them.

00:41:05.000 But when evil is afoot in the world, it is typically men who are going out there to meet the evil with a sword or a gun.

00:41:13.000 Let's not pretend that all gender roles are the same. 0.86

00:41:15.000 Now, I'm going to say something deeply controversial.

00:41:17.000 Men and women are different.

00:41:18.000 I know.

00:41:19.000 Very controversial.

00:41:20.000 And fairy tales tend to embed these ideas that men and women are different.

00:41:23.000 That women are largely composed by evolution to help build, and men are largely built by evolution to help protect and defend.

00:41:33.000 This is the difference between men and women. 0.99

00:41:36.000 Men are built to destroy things.

00:41:38.000 They can build things too, but only when they are doing so for the purpose of cultivating a family or cultivating a civilization, which is where women come in, right? 1.00

00:41:45.000 Women help build civilization by helping to tame men. 0.99

00:41:48.000 Men help build civilization by being tamed by women. 1.00

00:41:51.000 And also, I mean, this is what the taming of the shrew is really about.

00:41:53.000 And also, and also by basically changing their destructive tendencies toward growth.

00:42:01.000 Reinforcing those things is not a terrible thing.

00:42:04.000 How many women have watched Cinderella and really been damaged by it? 1.00

00:42:07.000 How many women have watched it? 1.00

00:42:09.000 Is there a woman who watched Cinderella and then she was like, you know what?

00:42:11.000 I'm just gonna sit here.

00:42:11.000 I'm just gonna wait for a dude.

00:42:13.000 Really, I don't know what these women are thinking. 1.00

00:42:15.000 And then Kristen Bell came out and she said something very similar.

00:42:17.000 Kristen Bell said that Snow White sends the wrong message. 0.86

00:42:21.000 Now, I hope that she was joking, but I have no clue whether she was joking.

00:42:26.000 Um, I kind of doubt it.

00:42:28.000 She says that Snow White sends kids a bad life lesson. 1.00

00:42:31.000 She says, every time, she says, every time we close Snow White, I look at my girls and ask, don't you think it's weird that Snow White didn't ask the old witch why she needed to eat the apple or where she got the apple?

00:42:39.000 I would say, I would never take food from a stranger, would you? 0.54

00:42:41.000 My kids are like, no, and I'm like, okay, I'm doing something right.

00:42:44.000 Well, you don't actually have to teach your kids that. 1.00

00:42:45.000 That's sort of the theme of the story, is that Snow White's an idiot. 1.00

00:42:49.000 Right? 1.00

00:42:49.000 The theme of the story is that Snow White shouldn't be taking apples from strangers. 1.00

00:42:52.000 And then she also says, don't you think it's weird the prince kisses Snow White without her permission?

00:42:56.000 Because you cannot kiss someone if they're sleeping.

00:42:59.000 Again, I don't know how many people actually think it's okay to kiss someone while they're sleeping, because it's weird.

00:43:03.000 The whole point of that fairy tale and Sleeping Beauty is that it only works because it's true love's kiss, right?

00:43:10.000 She's met the prince before.

00:43:11.000 And the idea is that love overcomes even death.

00:43:15.000 That is the actual theme of the fairy tales.

00:43:17.000 But I guess we're going to rip all this stuff away in favor of surface messages about Me Too and women's empowerment. 0.98

00:43:23.000 Really, really dumb stuff.

00:43:25.000 OK, so in just a second, I'm going to talk about some things that I like and some things that I hate.

00:43:29.000 So let's do some things that I like real fast.

00:43:32.000 So we begin today with a great new book out about Babe Ruth.

00:43:35.000 Jane Levy is one of my favorite authors.

00:43:36.000 She is just terrific.

00:43:38.000 She's written a biography of Sandy Koufax.

00:43:40.000 That's quite good.

00:43:40.000 She wrote a biography of Mickey Mantle.

00:43:41.000 That's spectacularly good.

00:43:43.000 And she has a new biography out about Babe Ruth.

00:43:45.000 I love sports books.

00:43:46.000 And if you enjoy baseball or business, go check out Babe Ruth and the World He Created.

00:43:50.000 The title of the book is The Big Fellow by Jane Levy, who is one of the best living American sports writers.

00:43:55.000 She's really, really first rate.

00:43:57.000 Okay, time for a couple of things that I hate.

00:44:05.000 Many, many things that I hate today.

00:44:07.000 Yay, so much hatred.

00:44:08.000 Okay, so, we begin today with CNN's Brooke Baldwin. 0.78

00:44:11.000 You remember that just a week ago, she told Matt Lewis and Mary Catherine Ham that they should not use the word mob on her program to describe Democrats who are actually mobs, because that would be mean, and the only real mobs are Charlottesville mobs.

00:44:21.000 Here she is trying to explain herself and failing dramatically.

00:44:25.000 And listen, like, I don't want to be the word police, and that was not my intention, but I also believe in calling out talking points, and to hear him bring that up, I had to say something, and honestly, at the end of my day, like, I'm sure you check your Twitter too, and if I have irked the left and the right, then I've done my job.

00:44:46.000 OK, so yeah, she doesn't irk the left ever.

00:44:48.000 When's the last time you heard the left go, yeah, Brooke Baldwin really irks me.

00:44:51.000 So I'm not sure where the irk both left and right comes from.

00:44:53.000 So media bias just on full display.

00:44:56.000 Speaking of media bias on full display, there's an article at NBC News today by Alex Seitzwald, who is a good reporter.

00:45:02.000 I've dealt with him a little bit.

00:45:03.000 He used to work, I believe, for Slate.

00:45:05.000 Is that right?

00:45:05.000 Well, now he has an article, and this article is not a good article.

00:45:08.000 It is called Betomania by Democrats Are Crazy for Their Authentically Cool Senate Candidate.

00:45:13.000 When is the last time you heard about a Republican candidate losing by near double digits in a blue state?

00:45:18.000 And there was a lot of talk about how cool he was.

00:45:20.000 And the media were fawning over him.

00:45:23.000 Now, this is not the first time that we've seen this.

00:45:24.000 They did the same thing with Wendy Davis.

00:45:26.000 She was the cool kid.

00:45:27.000 And then she lost by 20 points to Greg Abbott in Texas.

00:45:29.000 And there was Jon Ossoff in Georgia 6.

00:45:31.000 He was the cool guy.

00:45:33.000 And then he lost in Georgia 6 to Karen Handel, a woman I know, but who's a very generic congressional candidate. 0.99

00:45:39.000 Who'd run a couple of races statewide before and lost.

00:45:41.000 But there are all sorts of articles.

00:45:42.000 John Ossoff, the wave of the future.

00:45:44.000 Have you heard of John Ossoff since?

00:45:46.000 What's he been doing?

00:45:47.000 The best part of that story was that John Ossoff basically got conned into marrying his girlfriend to run for Congress, like he hadn't married her for six years.

00:45:54.000 And then he was like, well, maybe I'll win if I marry her, which got to be flattering to her.

00:45:58.000 And then he lost.

00:45:59.000 Oops.

00:46:00.000 Well, now they're writing full articles about Democrats are crazy for Beto. 0.99

00:46:05.000 Which part of it about Beto was the really great part?

00:46:07.000 The part where he pretends to be Hispanic by using the name Beto when his actual name is Robert O'Rourke?

00:46:12.000 Or the part where he drove over a median line while drunk, plowed into a truck, and then tried to drive away when he was 26?

00:46:17.000 Which is the best part, you think?

00:46:19.000 About Beto O'Rourke.

00:46:20.000 But the Democrats are really in love with him.

00:46:22.000 And there's this whole long article about the wonders of Beto O'Rourke.

00:46:25.000 He's just spectacular.

00:46:26.000 Jim Messina, former Hillary staffer says, People want to hang out with him.

00:46:42.000 So, here's something about people who are authentic and cool.

00:46:46.000 I remember when the right tried to do this with Marco Rubio, and I like Senator Rubio, but I remember when they're like, Marco Rubio listens to rap.

00:46:53.000 That makes him cool.

00:46:55.000 Okay, how do you do, fellow kids?

00:46:58.000 Beto O'Rourke is how many years old?

00:47:00.000 How old is Beto O'Rourke?

00:47:02.000 He's 46 years old.

00:47:03.000 If you're skateboarding when you are 46 years old, you're no longer cool.

00:47:07.000 You get banned from the city park for being a creep.

00:47:10.000 Like, really?

00:47:11.000 He's a skater? 0.94

00:47:14.000 Like, at least when Bill Clinton was trying to be cool, he was playing the saxophone or something, which is something you can do as a middle-aged person and not look ridiculous.

00:47:20.000 But if you're 46 years old and you've got your long, wavy hair, man, and you're just riding around on your skateboard, and you're playing air drums to the who?

00:47:28.000 Like, the only time you play air drums, if you're an adult human, is when you have children to amuse your kids.

00:47:35.000 Like, I airbanned in the car to amuse my four-and-a-half-year-old because she thinks that it's very funny.

00:47:39.000 I don't do it in public because I'm so awesome, because I play violin in public.

00:47:45.000 Right?

00:47:45.000 I mean, come on.

00:47:46.000 Come on.

00:47:48.000 It's not... I don't even know... Just ridiculous. 0.97

00:47:52.000 So, well done, media. 0.83

00:47:53.000 Just doing Yeoman's work. 1.00

00:47:55.000 Joy Behar also contributing to the media's wonders this week. 0.67

00:47:59.000 She said that Trump is teaching Americans to be sexist, racist bullies, as opposed to the media,

00:48:03.000 Here's Joy Behar screeching at you from The View.

00:48:05.000 I know, every time I criticize The View I lower my chances of being on the show, but there's only so much I can do to steer clear of this particular fray.

00:48:22.000 This guy is training American kids to disrespect women, say their, call them names, you know, to be racist in many ways, to be bullies, even though his wife says be best and don't bully.

00:48:32.000 We're a country full of independent thinkers. 0.99

00:48:34.000 He's a bully.

00:48:35.000 OK, number one, I think that the idea of president as moral leader sort of collapsed with Bill Clinton. 0.96

00:48:42.000 I think that's been true for 20 years.

00:48:43.000 If you are looking at the president and saying, I wish my child would act like the president.

00:48:47.000 First of all, you should only say that you wish your child would act like a person you think your child should act like, not based on the position.

00:48:52.000 It's like saying, I wish that my child would act like the CEO of Exxon.

00:48:56.000 Well, it sort of depends on who the CEO of Exxon is.

00:48:58.000 If it turns out the CEO of Exxon is a good guy, great. 0.99

00:49:00.000 If it turns out the CEO of Exxon is a scumbag, then that's probably a bad idea. 0.99

00:49:03.000 I'm always confused by people should follow the character of the President of the United States. 0.99

00:49:08.000 I agree.

00:49:09.000 I wish the President had more character.

00:49:10.000 I wish the President didn't say these things.

00:49:12.000 I wish he treated women better.

00:49:13.000 But, if you really think that Trump is what's poisoned the well here, you haven't been watching for the past couple of decades in American politics.

00:49:20.000 Hey, time for a couple extra things I hate today.

00:49:23.000 So, Roseanne without Roseanne, which the ABC launched a show called The Conners because they still had to make money without funny, actually. 0.89

00:49:31.000 So, Roseanne Barr tweeted out,

00:49:34.000 Because they killed her off in the series?

00:49:35.000 I guess they killed her off of a drug overdose?

00:49:37.000 Is that right?

00:49:37.000 In the Conners?

00:49:38.000 Well, the show was a complete, complete fail.

00:49:41.000 When Roseanne returned on ABC earlier this year, it got nearly 20 million viewers, an 18.2 million viewers, a 5.1 rating.

00:49:48.000 When it finished, it had 10.3 million viewers and a 2.4 rating.

00:49:53.000 The debut of The Conners started off with 10.5 million viewers and a 2.3 rating.

00:49:59.000 So, not great.

00:50:01.000 And it's just going to decline from there because it turns out that no one wants to watch Roseanne without Roseanne.

00:50:06.000 ABC should have just killed the show, if they really felt the necessity to kill the show.

00:50:11.000 Or they should have rehabbed Roseanne. 1.00

00:50:13.000 Or they should have said, listen, we need to take a break from Roseanne.

00:50:15.000 We'll be back in a while after Roseanne has done her required penitence.

00:50:19.000 But instead, they're not going to do that.

00:50:21.000 They'll just keep plugging along with the show nobody really wants to watch.

00:50:24.000 That's not even a story that I hate that much. 1.00

00:50:25.000 Here's the story I really hate because it's just so idiotic. 0.98

00:50:29.000 Agence France-Presse is now reporting that rising US star Issa Rae held up her hand up Wednesday to sexualizing men in her hit television series, Insecure, saying it was time for the female gaze to have its day. 0.99

00:50:42.000 Gaze being like G-A-Z-E, not like the female gaze like Ellen DeGeneres. 0.98

00:50:45.000 Like the female gaze to have its day. 0.99

00:50:46.000 The African-American writer and producer, who first broke through playing herself in the cult YouTube series, Awkward Black Girl, admitted she was all for the camera lingering longer on the glories of the naked male.

00:50:56.000 Okay, so a couple of things.

00:50:57.000 So she says, men are more sexualized in the series because we are seeing this through the female lens.

00:51:02.000 She says, when I'm in the act myself, I don't say, ooh, look at my body.

00:51:05.000 You're seeing what I see, what I'm looking at.

00:51:06.000 It's all very intentional.

00:51:08.000 We're always seeing bleep and bleep on TNA on screen.

00:51:11.000 This is an opportunity to reverse that.

00:51:13.000 She says that her mom, who's a good Christian, hates the show.

00:51:15.000 She said, the bad language, the sex. 1.00

00:51:17.000 She'll say, why did I even bother with parental control and having you not watch R-rated movies if you grew up to make the things you weren't allowed to watch?

00:51:23.000 She said that she's basically making porn. 0.96

00:51:26.000 What I think is hilarious about this is it's time for women to sexualize men. 1.00

00:51:31.000 Well, I thought the critique was that men were sexualizing women and that was bad. 0.98

00:51:35.000 Men shouldn't treat women as pieces of meat. 0.98

00:51:37.000 So I guess now the reverse is that women should sexualize men and treat them as pieces of meat. 0.99

00:51:41.000 There's a difference, however. 0.98

00:51:43.000 When women are sexualized by men and treated as pieces of meat, they don't like it. 1.00

00:51:46.000 It is one of the great objections, the correct objections of the MeToo movement. 0.99

00:51:49.000 Don't treat me like a piece of meat.

00:51:50.000 Don't sexualize me. 0.99

00:51:52.000 Don't treat me as though I'm just a sexual object. 0.88

00:51:54.000 Fair enough.

00:51:55.000 Correct.

00:51:56.000 How do you think men react to being sexualized?

00:52:03.000 If a woman says to a man, I really want to see you naked, there is not a man on earth who is upset about this sentence. 0.95

00:52:11.000 Yeah.

00:52:14.000 Like, really, this is not men do not operate in the same way that women do. 1.00

00:52:17.000 And only idiot radical feminists think differently. 1.00

00:52:19.000 If a man says to a woman in a bar, I want to see you naked. 1.00

00:52:22.000 She is insulted and throws a drink in his face. 0.98

00:52:23.000 If a woman says to a man in a bar, I want to see you naked. 1.00

00:52:27.000 The man says, OK, where do we go?

00:52:29.000 That's really how that goes.

00:52:31.000 There's a 1989 study.

00:52:32.000 It's still my favorite social science study ever.

00:52:34.000 There's a 1989 study in which these college professors sent an attractive woman into a bar to ask a hundred men whether they wanted to go home with her for the night.

00:52:44.000 75 of the 100 men said yes.

00:52:46.000 Then, the same study authors sent a man into the bar to ask a hundred women whether they wanted to go home for the night.

00:52:54.000 How many women said yes? 0.81

00:52:57.000 Zero.

00:52:58.000 Zero.

00:52:59.000 So when people, when, when radical feminists are like, it's time for us to start sexualizing men, they're like, go for it, man. 1.00

00:53:04.000 We've been waiting for this for generations.

00:53:06.000 Like go, go for it.

00:53:07.000 But again, if you are convincing women that you are somehow acting inequality to men, it's going to work out well for you. 1.00

00:53:13.000 It ain't gonna work out well for you.

00:53:15.000 Okay, it's not going to work out well for you, because it turns out you'll just be used and abused by a bunch of men, and in the end, you are not acting authentically the way that you actually feel about sex.

00:53:23.000 You're acting as people are telling you to feel about sex, and that means that you are probably going to feel emotionally empty afterward.

00:53:30.000 Now, maybe there are some people who are very into the casual sex, and they like to sexualize men, and everything works out great.

00:53:34.000 I'm not talking to you, and I really mean you, like it's one person.

00:53:37.000 I'm talking about all the other women on planet Earth who attach emotional intimacy to sex. 0.99

00:53:42.000 Because there's other studies that demonstrate that women have better sex in emotionally intimate situations.

00:53:46.000 Sex with strangers does not work the same way for men and women because this is what evolution teaches us.

00:53:52.000 Again, this is not me subjectively trying to promulgate my traditionalist views on sex on women.

00:53:58.000 Evolutionary biology is not in favor of women having random promiscuous sex with strangers. 1.00

00:54:04.000 It leads to the genetic offspring of idiots. 1.00

00:54:07.000 Really, this is why women are more sexually selective than men. 1.00

00:54:10.000 And this is true in every sexually dimorphic species, basically.

00:54:14.000 So it's, again, go for it.

00:54:16.000 You want to do this?

00:54:17.000 All you.

00:54:17.000 Enjoy.

00:54:18.000 But let's not pretend that this is in any way going to forward the enjoyment or happiness of women. 0.99

00:54:23.000 It's really, really asinine. 0.94

00:54:24.000 OK, so we will be back here tomorrow with all the news. 0.90

00:54:26.000 Plus, is today Thursday?

00:54:28.000 Man, it's been a long week.

00:54:29.000 So tomorrow's a Friday.

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00:54:33.000 So be a subscriber at DailyWire.com to get those questions in right now.

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