The Ben Shapiro Show - The Bad Faith Olympics | Ep. 821

00:00:00.000 President Trump disavows the send-her-back crowd chant.

00:00:03.000 Democrats lament John McCain.

00:00:04.000 A little late.

00:00:05.000 And the Squad continues its radical push.

00:00:07.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:07.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:09.000 All righty.

00:00:15.000 So we do have a lot coming up for you today on today's show.

00:00:19.000 And let's just jump right in.

00:00:20.000 So President Trump, over the last 24 hours, was in a whole lot of hot water.

00:00:24.000 Well, he went to one of his rallies, and this came in the aftermath of tweets that he sent earlier this week.

00:00:24.000 Why?

00:00:29.000 He sent tweets on Sunday.

00:00:30.000 In those tweets, he told a bunch of progressive congresswomen that they should go back to their home countries.

00:00:34.000 The problem being that three of the four progressive congresswomen he was talking about were born right here, and the fourth is a naturalized American citizen.

00:00:41.000 So telling them to go back to their home countries because you don't like their politics, that's not good.

00:00:46.000 That's bad stuff.

00:00:47.000 And then President Trump morphed that argument into, well, what I really meant was if you don't love the country, you can leave it at any time.

00:00:53.000 Well, that's not an unusual argument.

00:00:55.000 That's had a place in American politics for a very long time.

00:00:57.000 It's not really an argument so much as it is an emotional appeal.

00:01:00.000 If you don't like it, you're free to leave.

00:01:02.000 In fact, Hollywood stars use this all the time.

00:01:04.000 They say, well, you know, if Trump is elected, I'm going to move up to Canada.

00:01:07.000 And then nobody ever actually moves up to Canada.

00:01:09.000 This sort of argument has been used Really, since the beginning of the republic.

00:01:13.000 If you don't like it here, you can always take off.

00:01:14.000 No one's keeping you here.

00:01:16.000 Okay, that argument is not particularly objectionable on its face.

00:01:22.000 The argument that is more objectionable is go back to your home country.

00:01:25.000 That's objectionable, maybe xenophobic, but the President Trump then did a rally.

00:01:31.000 And the rally happened in North Carolina.

00:01:33.000 This happened two nights ago.

00:01:34.000 And the President of the United States was talking about Ilhan Omar.

00:01:37.000 Ilhan Omar is the worst of the so-called squad.

00:01:40.000 The squad is composed, of course, of AOC, and Ilhan Omar, and Rashida Tlaib, and Ayanna Pressley.

00:01:45.000 And Ilhan Omar is the most radical member of the squad.

00:01:48.000 Not necessarily in terms of her domestic politics, but certainly in terms of the language she uses about the United States, the language that she uses about terror groups, her history of going easy on, for example, ISIS recruits.

00:02:00.000 She wrote a letter to a judge recommending that people attempting to join ISIS be given more lenient sentences.

00:02:05.000 Her anti-Semitic comments have been routine and common.

00:02:10.000 And so Trump went after Ilhan Omar on her record.

00:02:13.000 And then the crowd, taking a cue from his original tweets earlier this week, started chanting, send her back.

00:02:19.000 And President Trump didn't say anything at the rally.

00:02:21.000 He kind of just stood there and took it.

00:02:23.000 Now what the president should have done is he should have immediately stepped in and said, hold up a second.

00:02:27.000 Now vote her out, right?

00:02:28.000 We're not sending any American citizens back anywhere.

00:02:28.000 Not send her back.

00:02:31.000 And in fact, it's un-American to suggest that the exercise of the First Amendment should subject you to deportation.

00:02:37.000 That's a bad thing, obviously.

00:02:39.000 But Trump really didn't know what to do on that stage, so a lot of folks took that as President Trump is cheering it.

00:02:45.000 President Trump is fine with it.

00:02:47.000 Well, over the last 24 hours, the President retracted that, basically.

00:02:51.000 He came out against that chant.

00:02:53.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:03:51.000 Okay, so President Trump, yesterday, did the right thing.

00:03:53.000 And the right thing was for him to disavow this chance.

00:03:56.000 And that is what he did.

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00:04:02.000 Okay, so President Trump yesterday did the right thing.

00:04:06.000 And the right thing was for him to disavow this chance.

00:04:08.000 And that is what he did.

00:04:09.000 So he's in the Oval Office.

00:04:11.000 He's doing a presser.

00:04:12.000 And he was asked about this by the media.

00:04:14.000 And he disavowed it.

00:04:15.000 He said, I don't like the chant.

00:04:17.000 And now the media, we'll see as they covered it, the media were not interested in his apology, right?

00:04:21.000 The media are not interested in the walk back.

00:04:23.000 The media want him to continue saying what he was saying earlier this week.

00:04:28.000 And they want to continue pushing the notion that Republicans are by and large racist and xenophobic and want to send everybody who doesn't look like them back to their home country and all this kind of stuff.

00:04:37.000 So here is Trump's response to the send them back chant.

00:04:40.000 Now, if you're a good American, you should be pretty happy that the president backed off of this, because whether you like Trump or not, it is not good for our politics.

00:04:47.000 As I pointed out repeatedly yesterday on the show, it is very bad for our politics to have political leaders saying things that are morally indefensible.

00:04:54.000 So if a political leader, or going along with things that are morally indefensible, So if a political leader backs off of that thing, that's good for the country, generally speaking.

00:05:02.000 Here was President Trump doing that yesterday.

00:05:04.000 Good for him, this is the right thing.

00:05:06.000 You don't get full credit because your earlier tweets sort of led this thing off.

00:05:10.000 And you also don't get full credit because you didn't stop the chant.

00:05:12.000 But you certainly get partial credit for doing the right thing now, and at least saying to your own base, let's not make this thing a thing at our rallies, right?

00:05:19.000 How about not every rally includes a send them back chant?

00:05:23.000 Because come on.

00:05:25.000 Okay, so here is President Trump backing off of it.

00:05:27.000 When your supporters last night were chanting, send her back, why didn't you stop them?

00:05:32.000 Why didn't you ask them to stop saying that?

00:05:34.000 Well, number one, I think I did.

00:05:36.000 I started speaking very quickly.

00:05:39.000 It really was a loud... I disagree with it, by the way.

00:05:42.000 But it was quite a chant.

00:05:44.000 And I felt a little bit badly about it.

00:05:48.000 But I will say this, I did, and I started speaking very quickly.

00:05:52.000 But it started up rather fast, as you probably noticed.

00:05:57.000 So you'll tell your supporters never to say that again?

00:05:59.000 Well, I would say that.

00:06:01.000 I was not happy with it.

00:06:04.000 I disagree with it.

00:06:06.000 But, again, I didn't say that.

00:06:08.000 They did.

00:06:11.000 Okay, so there's Trump backing off of it.

00:06:12.000 And listen, Trump's followers know the cue, which is cut this bleep out, right?

00:06:17.000 Stop that right now.

00:06:18.000 I don't like it.

00:06:19.000 Now, did President Trump stop it in his tracks?

00:06:21.000 No, I pointed this out yesterday.

00:06:23.000 There's not a great excuse for that.

00:06:25.000 It is true that if you look at his body language, normally, if you watch any Trump rallies, when people were chanting, lock her up, The president basically would walk away from the microphone, and then he would proceed to kind of conduct the audience, or nod along with the chant, or clap along with the chant.

00:06:39.000 You didn't see any of that from President Trump.

00:06:41.000 That doesn't mean that he was actively putting a damper on it.

00:06:43.000 He obviously was not.

00:06:44.000 But now he's actively putting a damper on it.

00:06:46.000 Are the media, though, going to take that?

00:06:48.000 Of course not.

00:06:49.000 So CNN ran a headline and said, Trump claims to disavow chant.

00:06:55.000 No, he disavowed it.

00:06:57.000 Disavowal is a pattern of speech in which you disavow something.

00:07:01.000 You can't claim to disavow something without disavowing the thing.

00:07:06.000 If I disavow white supremacy, you can't say Shapiro claims to disavow white supremacy.

00:07:10.000 Shapiro disavows white supremacy is the headline.

00:07:13.000 Shapiro disavows, whatever.

00:07:14.000 Like, a disavowal is where you disavow a thing.

00:07:18.000 CNN wasn't having any of that.

00:07:19.000 CNN's chyrons yesterday ran things like president disavows, disavows chant, while at the same time maintaining tweet from Sunday.

00:07:28.000 Okay, why don't you actually just report what he did yesterday?

00:07:32.000 You can give the context, that's fine.

00:07:33.000 But your chyrons don't actually have to be 500 word essays about why you find his words insufficient at this point.

00:07:40.000 That's not journalism anymore, now you're editorializing.

00:07:43.000 So the greatest of objective reporters among us, Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo, decided that they were going to demonstrate that the president didn't do enough at the rally.

00:07:51.000 Which is true, he didn't do enough at the rally.

00:07:53.000 But then he came out and he said, okay, this is bad, I don't like it.

00:07:57.000 So instead, on CNN yesterday, they said, watch, we're going to stay silent for 13 seconds.

00:08:00.000 This is what it looks like when you don't say anything for 13 seconds while people say bad things.

00:08:05.000 Just bear with me.

00:08:06.000 Don't say anything.

00:08:07.000 Don't say anything for, and I'm going to start the stopwatch.

00:08:10.000 Just don't say anything.

00:08:11.000 Now they're just sitting there.

00:08:14.000 Chris Cuomo's sipping his coffee.

00:08:17.000 So is Don Lemon.

00:08:18.000 And they just sit there for 13 seconds.

00:08:19.000 And this is supposed to, it's the 13 seconds that mattered most in American history.

00:08:23.000 And there's Chris Cuomo doing his chin, doing his hair.

00:08:27.000 It was a long time, wasn't it?

00:08:28.000 Long time.

00:08:29.000 I had several different thoughts about you during that moment.

00:08:32.000 Did you get my point?

00:08:33.000 I do, 100%.

00:08:33.000 And he's lying.

00:08:36.000 He's lying because he liked it, he needs it at this point.

00:08:39.000 And he could have stopped it, but he didn't.

00:08:41.000 He wants those people to have their outrage fed, and then he wants the rest of us to think what he does isn't that outrageous.

00:08:48.000 So question, why didn't he just double down on it?

00:08:50.000 I mean, President Trump is very fond of doubling down on things.

00:08:53.000 So if he liked it, he could make it the staple at every single one of his rallies.

00:08:57.000 Remember, he did that.

00:08:57.000 Listen, the media had a bleep fit when it came to lock her up.

00:09:01.000 And the president did not back off lock her up.

00:09:03.000 The president started chanting lock her up.

00:09:05.000 Hey, Donald Trump is not famous for backing off things that he likes.

00:09:09.000 He moves on them like a bleep, right? 0.99

00:09:10.000 I mean, like this is...

00:09:12.000 When President Trump likes things, he goes after them.

00:09:14.000 This is not a typical President Trump move, is to back off this comment.

00:09:19.000 Okay, but what is most disingenuous about the media coverage of President Trump backing off of this and telling his crowd to stop all of this is the routine that the media do now with regard to John McCain.

00:09:30.000 And this is how you got Trump.

00:09:32.000 I was having a conversation with somebody last night, and he's asking, why is it that so many Republicans are having a tough time disavowing bad things that Trump says?

00:09:39.000 And I said, because most Republicans and most conservatives feel that they are not going to be given credit for doing the correct moral thing.

00:09:46.000 And that, in essence, we're not going to trust you guys to make those judgments because the fact is that you would rip any Republican the same way that you are ripping Trump.

00:09:53.000 You just hate Trump more because he doesn't have your highfalutin speech patterns.

00:09:57.000 And you can see a pure example of this.

00:10:00.000 So the media yesterday, they were aghast at Trump, of course, which I was not pleased with President Trump.

00:10:07.000 You can go back and listen to the show, obviously.

00:10:09.000 But the media were aghast at President Trump.

00:10:12.000 And what did they start doing?

00:10:13.000 They started talking about the wonders of John McCain.

00:10:16.000 Now, when I talked yesterday on the program, About John McCain.

00:10:20.000 And John McCain shutting down a person at one of his rallies who suggested that Barack Obama was a Muslim.

00:10:24.000 I said that was the right thing to do.

00:10:26.000 Good for John McCain.

00:10:27.000 Now, I can say that because I supported John McCain in 2008.

00:10:30.000 When he ran against Barack Obama, I voted for him, I stumped for him, I raised money for him.

00:10:34.000 The members of the media who are now coming out of the woodwork to praise John McCain Well, a little late, guys.

00:10:40.000 A little late.

00:10:41.000 Because it turns out that wasn't what you were saying at the time.

00:10:43.000 We'll show you in just a second.

00:10:44.000 And then you wonder why Republicans don't trust you when it comes to your judgments on racism?

00:10:48.000 Why we think that you're a bunch of political phonies and hacks when you express your outrage at what the president is saying?

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00:12:05.000 Okay, so as I say, the media aghast at President Trump and paying tribute to John McCain.

00:12:10.000 So here is Don Lemon.

00:12:11.000 Last night saying, where is John McCain?

00:12:13.000 Whatever happened to Republicans like John McCain?

00:12:19.000 I'm so tired of the media.

00:12:21.000 But by the way, I think it'll be hilarious when eight years from now, let's say that Donald Trump wins.

00:12:28.000 And then there's another race after that.

00:12:31.000 And then the Republican loses.

00:12:34.000 Things switch, as they do tend to every eight years in the United States.

00:12:37.000 It's hard to win a third term for your party, as Hillary Clinton proved. 0.98

00:12:40.000 Let's say that they switch.

00:12:41.000 So 10 years from now, when another Republican is running for the nomination for the 2028 election, it's going to be highly, highly entertaining watching the media talk about the halcyon days of President Trump and his moderate policy proposals, and the fact that he was willing to reach across the aisle, because this is what the media do with every Republican.

00:13:03.000 As soon as they are no longer a threat, then they become wonderful people again.

00:13:07.000 So here was John McCain, here was Don Lemon on John McCain last night.

00:13:11.000 I want everyone to be respectful, and let's make sure we are.

00:13:15.000 Because that's the way politics should be conducted in America. 0.73

00:13:19.000 So let's make sure that we're all respectful.

00:13:23.000 Those were the days, huh?

00:13:25.000 The crowd booed Barack Obama.

00:13:26.000 Senator McCain got them cheering when he said, being respectful is the way politics should be conducted in America.

00:13:32.000 Boy, that would be nice to hear again.

00:13:34.000 Seems like an awfully long time ago, doesn't it?

00:13:38.000 Now I'm not suggesting that American politics has always been respectful.

00:13:42.000 I'm not that naive.

00:13:43.000 But there was a time when at least people tried, right?

00:13:49.000 Okay, John McCain, people tried.

00:13:53.000 Listen, I specifically mentioned this incident on yesterday's show.

00:13:57.000 John McCain handled that correctly when it came to Barack Obama being called a Muslim. 0.97

00:14:01.000 Flashback, October 11, 2008.

00:14:03.000 There's a man named Don Lemon.

00:14:06.000 You may have heard of him from five seconds ago on CNN.

00:14:09.000 And Don Lemon tweeted this out.

00:14:10.000 The question is, do you think the McCain campaign is creating a political environment that is inciting hate and hate speech?

00:14:18.000 The same, the same Don Lemon, who was talking about the civility and wonder of American politics in 2008, and the fundamental decency of John McCain, was suggesting that Republicans and John McCain's specific campaign was creating a political environment, this is a direct quote, is creating a political environment that is inciting hate and hate speech. 0.99

00:14:38.000 In other words, you wanna know why Republicans don't trust you guys on this crap? 0.98

00:14:40.000 Because you say the same exact crap about every Republican, including John McCain. 0.99

00:14:46.000 So you're going around praising John McCain as this wonderful civil fellow. 0.96

00:14:51.000 And when it came to comedy in the U.S.

00:14:52.000 Senate, when it came to treatment of his political opponents, I think there is truth to that.

00:14:55.000 But you didn't treat him like that.

00:14:57.000 And you're full of it now.

00:14:58.000 You're full of it now. 0.99

00:14:59.000 And so what Republicans say is, listen, if we're going to get treated like garbage, and we're going to get treated like we are inciting hate and hate speech, then you might as well have a president who's going to punch people in the face. 0.99

00:15:09.000 That's how you got Trump, guys. 0.99

00:15:10.000 This is how you got Trump.

00:15:12.000 And this was the meme yesterday.

00:15:14.000 You had Chuck Schumer yesterday on the floor of the Senate saying, listen, what President Trump does is so vile and so terrible and so unprecedented.

00:15:23.000 I lament the fact that there is no John McCain anymore.

00:15:26.000 John McCain is long gone.

00:15:27.000 What are we supposed to do?

00:15:30.000 What was shouted and chanted at the rally last night without the president upbraiding them?

00:15:36.000 Okay, there's no John McCain anymore.

00:15:38.000 Amazing.

00:15:39.000 And let me, let me just, let me just flashback, okay?

00:15:41.000 I'm gonna flashback to the 2008 race.

00:15:43.000 the other side have the honor, the decency, the courage to tell him to stop.

00:15:48.000 History will show this.

00:15:49.000 This is a moment.

00:15:51.000 There's no John McCain anymore.

00:15:53.000 When this kind of bitter racism emerged at his town hall meeting.

00:15:57.000 Okay.

00:15:57.000 There's no John McCain anymore.

00:15:59.000 Amazing.

00:15:59.000 Let me, let me just, let me just flashback.

00:16:02.000 Okay.

00:16:02.000 I'm going to flashback to the 2008 race.

00:16:05.000 John Lewis, the civil rights icon and Georgia Congress person was, he was tapped by John McCain as a possible advisor.

00:16:14.000 He, Here is what John Lewis said about John McCain at the time.

00:16:18.000 And now John Lewis, of course, leading the charge against Donald Trump.

00:16:20.000 Here's what John Lewis, the civil rights icon, had to say about John McCain circa 2008.

00:16:24.000 This is October 11th, 2008.

00:16:25.000 Again.

00:16:27.000 Quote, this is from Politico.

00:16:29.000 Civil rights icon in Georgia Congressman John Lewis is accusing John McCain and Sarah Palin of stoking hate, likening the atmosphere at Republican campaign events to those featuring George Wallace, the segregationist former governor of Alabama and presidential candidate.

00:16:41.000 McCain's campaign has responded with a statement in the candidate's name, urging Barack Obama to repudiate Lewis's comments.

00:16:47.000 Did Barack Obama repudiate Lewis's comments?

00:16:50.000 No.

00:16:50.000 No, he did not.

00:16:51.000 Barack Obama sat back and allowed John Lewis, without any sort of blowback, to suggest that John McCain was running a George Wallace-like campaign.

00:16:59.000 So do I want to hear from you guys now what a wonderful guy John McCain was?

00:17:02.000 And how John McCain was the model for American politics?

00:17:04.000 And oh, for the days of John McCain. 0.97

00:17:07.000 No, you guys can shut the hell up. 0.99

00:17:08.000 You can shut right up. 1.00

00:17:09.000 Because you were crapping all over John McCain. 0.99

00:17:11.000 I was there at the time. 0.92

00:17:12.000 I remember it. 0.89

00:17:13.000 You were crapping all over it. 0.98

00:17:14.000 You were suggesting that he was a racist and a bigot. 0.99

00:17:16.000 You were suggesting that he was a vicious campaigner who was attempting to knife innocent Barack Obama in the back. 0.96

00:17:24.000 You did all of this.

00:17:25.000 And then you wonder why Republicans were like, well, that's not even true about John McCain.

00:17:29.000 So if you're going to say it over and over about us, then we may as well get a guy who will club you.

00:17:35.000 This is how you got Trump.

00:17:36.000 Nobody's gonna play by your rules if you don't abide by your own rules, because your rules don't exist. 0.96

00:17:40.000 Your rules are a bunch of nonsense.

00:17:42.000 John Lewis said, Because of this atmosphere of hate, four little girls were killed on a Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama.

00:17:46.000 that encourage vicious attacks against innocent Americans who are simply trying to exercise their constitutional rights.

00:17:52.000 Because of this atmosphere of hate, four little girls were killed on a Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama.

00:17:58.000 Senator McCain and Governor Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse.

00:18:04.000 He said that about John McCain, in 2008. John McCain.

00:18:09.000 And it's the exact same language.

00:18:13.000 They are now calling Donald Trump George Wallace.

00:18:15.000 You keep saying everybody's George Wallace, eventually people conclude that no one is George Wallace and you guys can just, you can walk, take a long walk right off a short pier.

00:18:26.000 Now this is particularly true when you look at the contrasting coverage between how the media cover Donald Trump and how the media cover the radicalism and hate emanating from the Democratic Party.

00:18:36.000 So, Donald Trump tweeted out this morning.

00:18:38.000 He tweeted out, quote, it is amazing how the fake news media became crazed, quote unquote, over the chant, send her back by a packed arena, a record crowd in the great state of North Carolina.

00:18:49.000 You got to love how President Trump, under all circumstances, will never miss an opportunity to point out that he has amazing crowds.

00:18:55.000 But it's totally calm and accepting of the most vile and disgusting statements made by the three radical left congresswomen.

00:19:02.000 Mainstream media, which have lost all credibility, has either officially or unofficially become a part of radical left Democrat Party. 0.99

00:19:10.000 It is a sick partnership so pathetic to watch. 0.96

00:19:13.000 They even covered a tiny stage crowd as they greeted foul-mouthed Omar in Minnesota, a state which I will win in 2020 because they can't stand her and her hatred of our country. 0.92

00:19:22.000 And they appreciate all that I've done for them, opening up mining and much more, which has led to the best employment and economic year in Minnesota's long and beautiful history." President Trump ain't wrong about this.

00:19:34.000 He's not wrong about this.

00:19:35.000 Media attention to the crowd chant, which was appropriate.

00:19:40.000 It was appropriate, but you know what is inappropriate?

00:19:42.000 Ignoring the fact that there was a terrorist attack on an ICE facility over the weekend.

00:19:47.000 And the person who committed that terrorist attack was a member of Antifa.

00:19:50.000 And that member of Antifa was suggesting that the ICE facility was actually a quote, concentration camp.

00:19:57.000 And then a bunch of top Democratic Congresswomen, the members of the squad, were specifically asked by the rebel and the Daily Caller whether in fact they would condemn that ICE terror attack.

00:20:07.000 And the only one who eventually said she might condemn acts of violence is AOC.

00:20:11.000 All the others have remained silent.

00:20:12.000 There is no further comment from Ayanna Pressley or Ilhan Omar or Rashida Tlaib.

00:20:17.000 About any of that.

00:20:18.000 And still, no one has asked AOC about the incitement charge.

00:20:20.000 So everybody on the left keeps saying that Donald Trump is inciting violence.

00:20:24.000 Everything he says incites violence.

00:20:25.000 He's going to be responsible for millions of deaths.

00:20:28.000 He's going to be responsible for an enormous number of people getting hurt.

00:20:32.000 He's going to be responsible for violence upon violence upon violence.

00:20:35.000 This is the line about Donald Trump because of his rhetoric.

00:20:38.000 A person walked over to an ICE facility and tried to blow it up with a canister of fuel.

00:20:45.000 And Hunt was holding a rifle and was shot to death for his trouble, while quoting AOC.

00:20:49.000 And they won't even ask AOC about it.

00:20:51.000 Now, I don't think AOC is responsible for that guy.

00:20:53.000 And I don't think that unless Donald Trump is calling for violence, he's responsible for violence.

00:20:57.000 But that's not the media's standard, and that's not AOC's standard.

00:21:00.000 So when it comes to imbalance of coverage, that would be the imbalance of coverage right there.

00:21:04.000 Which is a bigger story?

00:21:05.000 An attempted terror attack on an ICE detainment facility?

00:21:08.000 You know, an actual act of violence? 0.99

00:21:11.000 Or the president saying stupid garbage, as is his usual want on all days ending in Y. I understand it's a big story when the president says something, particularly when he sets a new low. 1.00

00:21:22.000 I get it. 1.00

00:21:23.000 I covered it this week.

00:21:25.000 Go back and listen to the show.

00:21:26.000 I'm just pointing out there's a slight imbalance in political coverage, and so is President Trump, and he is not wrong about this.

00:21:32.000 And as we will see, the squad is not letting up.

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00:22:46.000 So as Trump says, and as I say, the media imbalance in coverage between what Trump says and what members of the Democratic Party say, astonishing.

00:22:55.000 Now, I'm not saying that Ayanna Pressley should receive the same kind of press that the president does. 0.96

00:22:58.000 He's the president.

00:22:59.000 She's a congressperson. 0.97

00:23:00.000 But you would think there might be a story in the mainstream media when Ayanna Pressley says, over the last weekend, that black people aren't black unless they agree with her, gay people aren't gay unless they agree with her, and Muslim people aren't Muslim unless they agree with Ilhan Omar. 0.76

00:23:13.000 You might think it would receive, you know, like, a little more coverage when, for example, AOC suggests that ICE agents are blatant racists.

00:23:21.000 You know, the weekend after a terror attack on an ICE facility.

00:23:24.000 So yesterday, AOC was speaking with Kevin McAleenan, who is the acting head of the Department of Homeland Security, and she went after ICE agents, labeling 10,000 of them racist.

00:23:38.000 Now, she's doing this on the basis of bad information.

00:23:40.000 I'll explain what she gets right, which is not much, and what she gets wrong in just a second.

00:23:44.000 But here she is, maligning ICE agents across the country as racists and bigots and brutality-laden pieces of human debris. 0.98

00:23:54.000 This is pretty vicious stuff that she is saying about, you know, the people who are putting their lives on the line to protect people on the border and also who go out of their way to save thousands of lives every year for refugees who are trying to cross the Rio Grande and have to be escorted to ports of entry.

00:24:07.000 Here's AOC going after Kevin McAleenan and after ICE agents more generally.

00:24:12.000 We do not have a dehumanizing culture at CBP.

00:24:15.000 This is an agency that rescues 4,000 people a year, that's absolutely committed to the well-being of everyone that they interact with.

00:24:22.000 I don't believe there's a dehumanizing culture.

00:24:24.000 And Mr. Secretary, so you don't think that having 10,000 officers in a violent racist group sharing rape memes of members of Congress points to any concern of a dehumanized culture?

00:24:40.000 Congresswoman, those posts are unacceptable.

00:24:42.000 They're being investigated, but I don't think it's fair to apply them to the entire organization or that even the members of that group believed or supported those posts.

00:24:51.000 Okay, McAleenan is totally right about this.

00:24:53.000 So here is what happened. 0.57

00:24:54.000 According to ProPublica, they said members of a secret Facebook group for current and former Border Patrol agents joked about the deaths of migrants, discussed throwing burritos at Latino members of Congress visiting a detention facility in Texas on Monday and posted a vulgar illustration depicting AOC engaged in oral sex with a detained migrant, according to screenshots of their postings. 0.96

00:25:11.000 All this, of course, is disgusting.

00:25:13.000 ProPublica says in one exchange, group members responded with indifference and wisecracks to the post of a news story about a 16-year-old Guatemalan migrant who died in May while in custody at a Border Patrol station in West Laco, Texas.

00:25:24.000 One member posted a gif of Elmo with the quote, oh well.

00:25:27.000 Created in August 2016, the Facebook group is called I'm 1015 and boasts roughly 9,500 members from across the country.

00:25:34.000 10-15 is border patrol code for aliens in custody.

00:25:36.000 The group described itself in an online introduction as a forum for funny and serious discussion about work with the patrol.

00:25:41.000 Remember you are never alone in this family, the introduction said.

00:25:44.000 And then they talk about these specific comments.

00:25:47.000 Okay, so were these comments that were posted by the moderators?

00:25:51.000 No, these were not comments posted by the moderators.

00:25:53.000 On Facebook, like this demonstrates such an ignorance of how Facebook works.

00:25:56.000 On Facebook, when you have a group like this, there are the moderators who post stories, and then there are people who comment under the stories.

00:26:03.000 And you can go through virtually any Facebook page.

00:26:06.000 I promise you, AOC's Facebook page too.

00:26:08.000 And you can find people who are members of her page, or fans of her page, who are commenting on stories and saying vile, disgusting things.

00:26:14.000 Does that malign all of AOC's Facebook page?

00:26:17.000 Or all of this Border Patrol Facebook page?

00:26:19.000 No, it doesn't.

00:26:20.000 Because no one reads the comments on Facebook.

00:26:23.000 Or if they do, it's like five people reading each other's comments.

00:26:25.000 So, is there a subset of people who ought to be called out and prosecuted and disciplined, whatever the law demands?

00:26:32.000 Of course!

00:26:33.000 And by the way, McAleenan says that.

00:26:34.000 He says people have been put on administrative leave, people have been put on desk jobs, people are being punished, we are investigating all of this.

00:26:40.000 But she's maligning 10,000 Border Patrol agents and former Border Patrol agents because there were like five posts, apparently, that were ugly, on a border patrol page over the course of years, presumably.

00:26:53.000 I mean, the head of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, Joaquin Castro, reviewed the Facebook discussions, was incensed.

00:26:59.000 He said it confirms some of the worst criticisms of customs and border protection.

00:27:03.000 These are clearly agents who are desensitized to the point of being dangerous to migrants and their coworkers.

00:27:07.000 So AOC takes some bad comments on a Facebook page and then uses it to smear the entire border patrol agency.

00:27:15.000 Now, AOC then turned back to Trump, and she says that Trump's ugly comments this week put millions of Americans in danger.

00:27:20.000 So she is the one who's constantly suggesting that if you make a comment politically that does not call for violence against anybody, they are putting millions of—not just her, not just Ilhan Omar—millions of Americans in danger.

00:27:33.000 So here she is explaining that Trump is inciting violence, basically.

00:27:37.000 Here she is.

00:27:38.000 The president put millions of Americans in danger last night.

00:27:43.000 His rhetoric is endangering lots of people.

00:27:47.000 This is not just about threats to individual members of Congress, but it is about creating a volatile environment in this country through violent rhetoric that puts Okay, except that she has accused Nancy Pelosi of exactly the same thing, right?

00:28:03.000 Just last week, she and her friends went on national TV on CBS, and they made exactly the same claim about Pelosi.

00:28:08.000 They said that Pelosi was creating incitement of violence against members of Congress.

00:28:12.000 Here's the question for AOC.

00:28:14.000 So, if Trump's rhetoric Which, admittedly, was bad earlier this week.

00:28:18.000 I have said that one million times this week.

00:28:21.000 I can't say it any more times this week.

00:28:22.000 I mean, I can, but it would get boring at a certain point.

00:28:25.000 You know my opinion on this.

00:28:26.000 I hit him as hard as anybody, right or left, over the chance at the rally yesterday.

00:28:31.000 Everyone knows this.

00:28:32.000 This is undeniable.

00:28:32.000 Okay, so, she says that that sort of language leads to violence.

00:28:37.000 Again, there was an ICE attack.

00:28:39.000 There was an attack on an ICE facility by a person quoting AOC last weekend.

00:28:43.000 And she's back out there suggesting that Homeland Security agents and Border Patrol agents across the country are systemically desensitized to violence and are basically violent racists.

00:28:52.000 And no one will ask her a question about it.

00:28:53.000 No one.

00:28:54.000 You think maybe that's why so many conservatives are just discounting whatever the media have to say?

00:28:59.000 Even when the media are making a proper criticism of President Trump?

00:29:02.000 Because they say, listen, your criticism of President Trump comes in the context of you being smear artists.

00:29:07.000 And it's not just limited to AOC.

00:29:11.000 Ilhan Omar, she's going after Trump this week.

00:29:13.000 But where is the media coverage of Ilhan Omar's radicalism? 0.92

00:29:17.000 So here's Ilhan Omar yesterday being surrounded by media and declaring that President Trump is a fascist.

00:29:21.000 Okay, you may not like President Trump's rhetoric.

00:29:24.000 I don't like President Trump's rhetoric.

00:29:26.000 A lot of times.

00:29:27.000 But if President Trump were an actual fascist, do you think that Ilhan Omar would be able to run around the country saying that President Trump was an actual fascist?

00:29:34.000 The mark of fascism generally is not allowing your political opponents to call you a fascist all that often.

00:29:39.000 So here's Ilhan Omar making that case.

00:29:43.000 We have said this president is racist.

00:29:45.000 We have condemned his racist remarks. 0.99

00:29:49.000 I believe he is fascist.

00:29:51.000 I want to remind people that this is what this president and his supporters have turned our country that is supposed to be a country where we allow democratic debate and dissent to take place.

00:30:05.000 And so this is not about me.

00:30:07.000 This is about us fighting for what this country truly should be. 0.99

00:30:13.000 Okay, so President Trump is a fascist. 0.67

00:30:14.000 Important to point out at this point that Ilhan Omar has stood against sanctions against both Venezuela as well as Iran. 0.95

00:30:21.000 So when it comes to actual fascism on planet Earth, she seems pretty okay with it based on country of origin.

00:30:28.000 The only countries that she seems pretty down on in the leadership of those countries She really is not fond of President Trump, obviously.

00:30:35.000 And he's not fond of her either.

00:30:37.000 But calling him a fascist is obviously untrue.

00:30:39.000 And she hates Israel, right?

00:30:40.000 So this is the part where it becomes maddening.

00:30:43.000 So Ilhan Omar pursued what is indeed an anti-Semitic trope yesterday.

00:30:47.000 Not even a trope, it was an anti-Semitic policy.

00:30:49.000 Not anti-semitic, just by my lights.

00:30:51.000 Anti-semitic by the lights of Nancy Pelosi, who a month ago said in front of AIPAC that BDS, Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions from Israel, is anti-semitic policy.

00:30:58.000 That it is bigoted policy.

00:31:00.000 Well, yesterday, Ilhan Omar sponsored a resolution not only backing boycotts and divestment and sanctions against Israel, but comparing Israel to Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1941.

00:31:11.000 You know the place that killed all the Jews? 1.00

00:31:13.000 She compared the Jewish state to the place that killed all the Jews.

00:31:17.000 That has she been asked to quit? 0.98

00:31:19.000 Like no one asked her about this.

00:31:20.000 How?

00:31:21.000 How?

00:31:23.000 How is that not a top line story?

00:31:24.000 I mean, she is at the top of the news and the president is making the case she's an anti-Semite and the media are like, no, she's not an anti-Semite. 0.58

00:31:30.000 She's just awesome. 0.92

00:31:31.000 Well, wouldn't you?

00:31:33.000 Ask Nancy Pelosi whether she just pursued... This is... It's mind-boggling.

00:31:37.000 It is mind-boggling how bad the media are at their jobs and how biased they are at their jobs.

00:31:41.000 The media spent yesterday defending Ilhan Omar from legitimate critiques, like her anti-Semitic comments.

00:31:47.000 No, she's not an anti-Semite.

00:31:48.000 How dare you take her out of context?

00:31:50.000 And then she's critiqued over her history of possible immigration fraud.

00:31:55.000 Not that she defrauded the government in immigrating here, but the possibility that she defrauded the government in concocting a scheme so she could bring her brother over to the United States illegally.

00:32:04.000 There's some fairly decent evidence of that uncovered by David Steinberg over at PJ Media and reported by the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

00:32:11.000 I mean, there are open questions about this.

00:32:13.000 Jim Acosta at CNN.

00:32:15.000 And ladies, find you a man who loves you like Jim Acosta loves Jim Acosta.

00:32:18.000 Jim Acosta over at CNN responded to people asking questions about this by saying, well, she denied it.

00:32:24.000 Well, she denied it.

00:32:25.000 When was that a journalistic standard?

00:32:27.000 She denied it.

00:32:28.000 You guys are literally going around saying that President Trump didn't disavow a statement that he disavowed because he claimed to disavow the statement.

00:32:35.000 But she, she just denies it outright.

00:32:38.000 Well, I guess case closed then.

00:32:40.000 I guess we're done here.

00:32:42.000 And when it comes to her own anti-Semitism, you've got people in the media who continue to defend Ilhan Omar and AOC, her fellow traveler, and Rashida Tlaib, who is also an anti-Semite, and Ayanna Pressley, who expresses bigotry publicly, and then suggest that all these people, you know, they are the best that America has to offer.

00:32:59.000 When Trump drives you this crazy, that the squad become your squad, Trump's gonna win that battle.

00:33:05.000 He is.

00:33:05.000 You guys are making a big mistake.

00:33:07.000 You wanna alienate the suburban women? 1.00

00:33:09.000 Great way of doing that is embracing the squad.

00:33:12.000 The more Americans see of the squad, the more unpopular they're going to be.

00:33:16.000 The only reason that they're at single digits underwater is because only about 50, 60% of Americans even know who these people are, except for AOC. 0.72

00:33:23.000 No one knows who Elhanan Marr is, no one knows who Rashida Tlaib is, no one knows who Ayanna Pressley is.

00:33:27.000 When they start hearing their comments, they ain't gonna like it very much.

00:33:30.000 They're not gonna like it particularly a lot.

00:33:33.000 And Ilhan Omar, I mean, this is the game that Ilhan Omar is playing.

00:33:36.000 So Ilhan Omar, how radical is Ilhan Omar?

00:33:39.000 So not only did she sponsor this BDS resolution, she then announced that she was going to travel to Israel.

00:33:44.000 The only reason she did that is because what she hopes to do is provoke Israel into denying her entry.

00:33:49.000 Israel has laws on the books that deny entry to people who are going to propagandize on behalf of the destruction of state of Israel.

00:33:55.000 BDS is an anti-semitic policy directed at the destruction of the state of Israel.

00:33:58.000 By the way, the United States has similar policies that if you want to come in here and talk about the overthrow of the U.S.

00:34:03.000 government, we're not going to allow you to come over here and visit.

00:34:05.000 Okay, so Israel has that policy and the question is whether they allow Ilhan Omar in or not.

00:34:11.000 They probably do.

00:34:12.000 They probably just take the hit.

00:34:13.000 of allowing her to run around with Palestinian members of Hamas and talk about how evil Israel is and then they let her go back and all of this but this is the game Ilhan Omar is playing and no one is asking Pelosi about it.

00:34:25.000 Forget Ilhan Omar.

00:34:25.000 Why is no one asking Pelosi about that?

00:34:27.000 No one.

00:34:28.000 Meanwhile, the media are just going around talking about how wonderful these women are.

00:34:32.000 They're just wonderful.

00:34:33.000 So you got Rashida Tlaib, an anti-Semite.

00:34:35.000 Ilhan Omar, not only an anti-Semite, but a radical on nearly every front.

00:34:38.000 AOC, a deeply radical democratic socialist who believes that we're running concentration camps on our border.

00:34:44.000 And Ayanna Pressley, who expresses open bigotry.

00:34:46.000 And Gayle King of CBS talks about how much these folks love the country.

00:34:50.000 They are the best that America has to offer.

00:34:54.000 I just met the squad the other day.

00:34:56.000 I don't know them.

00:34:56.000 I had never talked to any of them before that interview and only spent 30 minutes.

00:35:01.000 Not one of them has ever said, I hate America.

00:35:04.000 Not one of them has ever said, I don't want to be here.

00:35:06.000 In fact, I would say they love this country so much.

00:35:09.000 They spoke with such pride about being in Congress.

00:35:12.000 They pointed out where they sat in that room and the bills that they passed and the passion that they have for this country and their people and their constituents.

00:35:22.000 Well if you sat with them for half an hour and they didn't openly say I hate this country, well then clearly they must love everything about America.

00:35:28.000 Clearly they must not be radicals if they didn't come out and just say let's burn this place to the ground.

00:35:35.000 Such journalisming, incredible journalisming.

00:35:37.000 Okay, in just a second, we're gonna get to the 2020 Democratic race.

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00:39:24.000 I think morality is good for civil coexistence, but morality alone will not save this society unless we develop an accountability to our Creator, not merely for moral reasoning, but for the recognition that life at its core is sacred.

00:39:46.000 Robbie Zacharias is a really deep, interesting thinker.

00:39:49.000 He's terrific to sit with, and what a nice guy.

00:39:51.000 So go listen to the Sunday special this week.

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00:40:24.000 Okay, so I'm a sucker for babies.

00:40:26.000 I love babies, and that is a cute baby.

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00:41:12.000 All right.

00:41:18.000 So moving forward from the Trump versus Ilhan Omar brouhaha to the 2020 race, which seems to have taken a backseat here.

00:41:26.000 I was watching the poll numbers as all this happened.

00:41:26.000 And it's fascinating.

00:41:29.000 So if you watch the poll numbers at RealClearPolitics while all of this was happening, what you see is that Joe Biden is actually climbing again.

00:41:35.000 Kind of fascinating.

00:41:36.000 In the RealClearPolitics poll average, he had dropped down to about 26% as of maybe a week and a half ago, right?

00:41:44.000 As of July 5th.

00:41:45.000 This is two weeks ago.

00:41:46.000 He was down to 26%.

00:41:48.000 And now in the RealClearPolitics poll average, he's up to 28%.

00:41:52.000 And that is because the less people look at the Democrats, the more they're like, you know what we want?

00:41:56.000 Just the moderate guy.

00:41:57.000 Like the guy who seems kind of moderate.

00:41:58.000 How about that guy?

00:41:59.000 Let's do that guy.

00:42:00.000 Now, is 28% enough for Joe Biden to win the nomination?

00:42:03.000 No.

00:42:03.000 I think that Joe Biden is not going to be the nominee.

00:42:05.000 I think that Joe Biden's best day, as I've been saying consistently throughout this campaign, his best day was his first day.

00:42:11.000 That will remain true.

00:42:13.000 Joe Biden has 100% name recognition, and he doesn't even have 30% support in the Democratic primaries.

00:42:18.000 The next debates are not going to be good for him, I predict.

00:42:20.000 The reason being, The breakdown of the debates. 0.97

00:42:23.000 So, the Democrats have decided to do these debates in the dumbest possible way.

00:42:26.000 So what the Republicans did, in 2016, is they tried to have debates with the top contenders, and then there was sort of the kids' table.

00:42:32.000 And the kids' table was for the people who, like the Eric Swalwells of the world in the Republican Party, who were going to get 2% in the polls, and then they could all debate each other, and maybe one of them would rise up, like Carly Fiorina, and then they would be included in the big-person debate.

00:42:47.000 That was a much better way of doing it.

00:42:49.000 The Democrats, however, in the name of anti-meritocracy have decided, because they're not in favor of merit, they've decided instead that they're just going to basically draw straws for who is in which debate.

00:43:00.000 And there's still one bajillion candidates.

00:43:02.000 The only candidate, shockingly, the only candidate with enough reason to see he's going nowhere was Swalwell.

00:43:08.000 Man, this party.

00:43:10.000 So, here's how this all breaks down.

00:43:13.000 So there are two debates.

00:43:15.000 There are two debates.

00:43:16.000 The first night debate is Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg and Beto O'Rourke, Amy Klobuchar, Steve Bullock, Representative Tim Ryan from Ohio, John Hickenlooper, John Delaney, and Marianne Williamson.

00:43:30.000 So first of all, I will watch anything with Marianne Williamson in it.

00:43:33.000 I don't care what it is.

00:43:35.000 I don't care if it's a special on healing oils.

00:43:38.000 I don't care if it's about crystals.

00:43:40.000 I don't care.

00:43:40.000 Marianne Williamson is the best.

00:43:43.000 And I will watch that debate just to watch Marianne Williamson talk about binding the president with chains of love. 1.00

00:43:49.000 Which is real Fifty Shades of Grey kind of stuff.

00:43:51.000 Real weird.

00:43:52.000 Marianne Williamson is great and I want more Marianne Williamson on the stage.

00:43:56.000 But people are basically declaring that there is a white person debate and then there is a diverse people debate because every person on that stage is white.

00:44:03.000 So it's Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.

00:44:04.000 Now, that's really good for Warren because Warren can go directly at Sanders and continue to carve away at his base.

00:44:09.000 It's bad for Pete Buttigieg because he's gonna be a sideshow.

00:44:12.000 Pete Buttigieg is left out of that main battle.

00:44:14.000 Buttigieg has raised an enormous amount of cash.

00:44:16.000 But you wanna talk, it's fascinating how the media coverage works here.

00:44:20.000 So Pete Buttigieg raised insane amounts of money.

00:44:22.000 He raised more money than pretty much anybody in the last quarter.

00:44:26.000 And he is polling, in the RealClearPolitics poll average, at 4.8%.

00:44:31.000 Beto O'Rourke is polling at 2.8%.

00:44:33.000 Beto O'Rourke is considered a giant fail.

00:44:36.000 Pete Buttigieg is considered a giant success.

00:44:40.000 Why?

00:44:40.000 So why?

00:44:41.000 Well, because Pete Buttigieg is intersectionally diverse, because he's a gay man.

00:44:45.000 And that means he has to get outsized media attention.

00:44:47.000 He's raised enormous amounts of cash.

00:44:49.000 That's not translating into anything that looks like success anywhere.

00:44:52.000 In the latest Hill poll, he has 1%. 1%.

00:44:56.000 So, in any case, Buttigieg is not really a force in this race.

00:44:59.000 I think that the Buttigieg boomlet is over.

00:45:02.000 The first debate will be about Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren going at each other, and Amy Klobuchar going, guys, I'm the only senator in America who wildly outpaces in popularity my party.

00:45:12.000 Why in the world am I not getting anywhere here?

00:45:14.000 And her throwing binders at people. 1.00

00:45:16.000 And then it's a bunch of randos, and Marianne Williamson, who's the best.

00:45:18.000 Okay, that's debate night number one.

00:45:20.000 Debate night number two is Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

00:45:23.000 So it's the rematch.

00:45:25.000 It's Rocky II, the rematch.

00:45:27.000 So, can Biden get up off the mat and go at Harris?

00:45:31.000 He's gonna need to be a lot more adept against Harris.

00:45:31.000 He's gonna need to.

00:45:34.000 But Biden is now facing down the two-headed attack of Kamala Harris and Cory Booker, because Cory Booker is sitting there going, I started this thing, right?

00:45:44.000 I'm the one who attacked Biden first, and then you put me in the other debate where I couldn't attack Biden, so now I want to attack Biden publicly.

00:45:50.000 So Cory Booker is going to bring his angry eyes.

00:45:52.000 I've said that he's like Mr. Potato Head.

00:45:53.000 He brings his angry eyes.

00:45:54.000 He always has to bring his eyes.

00:45:55.000 And then he pops them in.

00:45:56.000 And now he's angry, Cory Booker.

00:45:58.000 Angry.

00:45:59.000 So we'll see if Cory Booker and Kamala Harris go after Joe Biden.

00:46:03.000 Biden's going to have to handle himself really well.

00:46:05.000 This is, again, very risky for Joe Biden.

00:46:08.000 I don't think he will because I don't think that he's capable of doing that.

00:46:11.000 He's looking very old out there on the campaign trail.

00:46:13.000 If you've seen video of him, it's not that That's not a rip on his age as a number.

00:46:18.000 That's a rip on how he is performing as a candidate.

00:46:21.000 He is looking doddering.

00:46:22.000 He is not looking stable.

00:46:23.000 He is not looking as though he has this thing under control.

00:46:26.000 He's not looking energetic.

00:46:28.000 Elizabeth Warren is 70, and she's looking energetic out there.

00:46:32.000 Joe Biden simply is not.

00:46:34.000 He's got a few years on Warren, but Warren is way more energetic.

00:46:36.000 So Biden versus Harrison Booker.

00:46:38.000 And then there's my dude and my boy, Andrew Yang.

00:46:42.000 The only candidate with the actual stones to come on the Sunday special.

00:46:45.000 We've invited every single one of these Democrats.

00:46:46.000 None of them will come on the Sunday special, despite the fact that I treat everybody really well on the Sunday special.

00:46:51.000 Go look at my interview with Andrew Yang.

00:46:54.000 I treated him great.

00:46:55.000 Because the Sunday special is about exchange of ideas.

00:46:57.000 It's not about attack.

00:46:57.000 It's not about debate.

00:46:58.000 It's about discussion.

00:46:59.000 It'll be Booker, Julian Castro, who...

00:47:03.000 I guess we'll just be there.

00:47:04.000 Torsten Gillibrand.

00:47:07.000 Bill de Blasio, who will be very tall and strangle groundhogs.

00:47:10.000 Senator Michael Bennett of Colorado, the only rational person left in the Democratic Party.

00:47:13.000 Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii. 0.92

00:47:15.000 And Washington Governor Jay Inslee, who will rant and rave about climate change while being completely useless.

00:47:20.000 So that is the breakdown of the debate.

00:47:24.000 My prediction, continued momentum for Harris, continued momentum for Warren.

00:47:29.000 Biden is going to have to turn into hell of a response in order for him to regain the momentum.

00:47:34.000 Okay, meanwhile...

00:47:36.000 Joe Biden is struggling for his argument.

00:47:39.000 He continues to sort of trot out the same arguments over and over.

00:47:42.000 But here's the thing.

00:47:43.000 Joe Biden, because he is attempting to head off the Democrats of the past, the radical Democrats of the past, because of all of that, Joe Biden is now engaging in exactly the kind of politicking that lost Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

00:47:55.000 So here was Joe Biden yesterday being asked about President Trump.

00:47:58.000 And Joe Biden didn't just go after Trump.

00:48:01.000 He proceeded to go after Trump's base.

00:48:02.000 He suggested that people who voted for President Trump are racist. 0.66

00:48:06.000 This is exactly the same as when Hillary Clinton suggested that everyone who was thinking about voting for Trump was deplorable, was a member of the alt-right, which was bull. 0.88

00:48:14.000 Here's Joe Biden suggesting that Trump's base is racist.

00:48:17.000 How is this a smart electoral strategy?

00:48:19.000 You got me.

00:48:20.000 I don't think it is.

00:48:23.000 Well, I only saw a clip of it.

00:48:24.000 The way he stood there, it didn't seem like it.

00:48:26.000 You'd assume... You can imagine if someone said that when I was speaking, what I would have said.

00:48:32.000 No.

00:48:33.000 Stop.

00:48:34.000 Speak up, man.

00:48:35.000 Not after the fact.

00:48:37.000 Not after the fact.

00:48:38.000 Look, this is a game.

00:48:40.000 This is about dividing the country.

00:48:41.000 This is about dividing and raising the issue of racism across the country, because that's its base.

00:48:51.000 Okay, so it's racism.

00:48:53.000 That's his base. 0.93

00:48:54.000 His base is racist.

00:48:54.000 Good, good pitch there, Joe Biden.

00:48:57.000 Very smart pitch right there.

00:48:59.000 Pretty amazing stuff.

00:49:01.000 Meanwhile, Bernie Sanders is running into some problems of his own.

00:49:04.000 This is a delicious story.

00:49:06.000 So Bernie Sanders has been pushing for $15 minimum wage federally mandated.

00:49:09.000 The House of Representatives just passed a bill that would mandate federal minimum wage of $15.

00:49:14.000 According to the Congressional Budget Office, this would result in a minimum of 1.3 million jobs lost.

00:49:18.000 But sure, we gotta talk about minimum wage, so why not just pick a random point and say that should be the minimum wage?

00:49:24.000 Only one problem.

00:49:25.000 Quote, Washington Post headline, Labor fight Royals Bernie Sanders campaign.

00:49:28.000 As workers demand the $15 hourly pay the candidate has proposed for employees nationwide.

00:49:34.000 Whoopsie.

00:49:36.000 Turns out that Bernie Sanders hasn't been paying his folks 15 bucks an hour.

00:49:39.000 Campaign field hires have demanded an annual salary they say would be equivalent to a $15 an hour wage, which Sanders for years has said should be the federal minimum.

00:49:46.000 The organizers and other employees supporting them have invoked the senator's words and principles in making their case to the campaign manager, Faiz Shakir.

00:49:53.000 The documents reviewed by the Washington Post show.

00:49:57.000 So Bernie Sanders not living up to his socialist bona fides, that and his three houses, and his unlimited supply of pudding, suggest that he may not actually abide by his own dictates.

00:50:07.000 There is a problem for Kamala Harris too, actually, as long as we are talking about problems for Democrats in the 2020 presidential race.

00:50:13.000 According to the Washington Examiner, Kamala Harris's presidential campaign bio rests heavily on her career as a prosecutor, including six years as California Attorney General. 0.70

00:50:22.000 But it omits a plea deal her office negotiated for former San Diego Mayor Bob Filner, A serial sexual harasser, which let him escape jail time and avoid registering as a sex offender.

00:50:31.000 I remember this case.

00:50:32.000 I'm from California.

00:50:33.000 We covered it.

00:50:33.000 Bob Filner was trapping women in booths at like the local Denny's and then sexually harassing them in the booth.

00:50:41.000 In 2013, about 20 women accused Filner, a two-decade Democratic congressman turned San Diego mayor, of sexual harassment and misconduct. 0.97

00:50:48.000 Some said he put them in, I kid you not, Filner headlocks.

00:50:52.000 Harris's office drew considerable criticism in 2013 for allowing Filner to plead guilty to state charges of false imprisonment and battery against three Jane Doe's in exchange for a light sentence.

00:51:03.000 Filner could have faced up to five years in prison, but the plea bargain instead gave him three months of house arrest, three years probation, and partial loss of his mayoral pension.

00:51:11.000 Not complete loss, so he's still getting paid.

00:51:13.000 Some of the criticism persists today, with past lenient sentences looking less understandable after a swath of prominent men drummed themselves out of public life over sexual harassment episodes.

00:51:22.000 Wait, so here's the thing.

00:51:23.000 If Joe Biden wants to go after Kamala Harris, she is a target-rich environment, but he's actually gonna have to go after her.

00:51:28.000 So if she starts with the race stuff again, Joe Biden should say to her, listen Kamala, you and I both know you don't support federal busing.

00:51:36.000 The difference is that I'm honest about my position, whereas you lie about your position.

00:51:40.000 You suggest that because I take the exact same position you do on federal busing and did in the 1970s, that this is because I am a bigot.

00:51:47.000 And yet you, today, do not support federal busing.

00:51:50.000 And schools are de facto more segregated than they were then.

00:51:54.000 Not de jure.

00:51:55.000 De jure means by law.

00:51:57.000 So he can go after her on that.

00:51:59.000 He can say, listen, Kamala, you purport to be this fighter for the people?

00:52:03.000 You're lying to everybody.

00:52:04.000 You're suggesting that Medicare for All is possible without a middle class tax hike.

00:52:07.000 At least Bernie Sanders is honest. 1.00

00:52:08.000 You're a damn liar. 1.00

00:52:10.000 He should say to her, listen, you won't even make clear your own position on Medicare for All. 1.00

00:52:15.000 You have no less than six times changed your position on private health insurance and whether it ought to be eliminated.

00:52:21.000 You are a person who campaigns on this notion that you are a strong prosecutor who's going to stand up to criminality, particularly criminality directed at women.

00:52:30.000 Well, how about that Bob Filner plea deal, huh?

00:52:31.000 What do you got on that?

00:52:34.000 Joe Biden is going to have to aggressively go after her because sort of like in 2016, a lot of Republicans were resonating to the idea that President Trump would be the best person to prosecute Hillary on the stage because he had no limits and he'd say anything. 0.87

00:52:45.000 There is a feeling among Democrats that they need the best prosecutor of Trump on that stage too.

00:52:50.000 Biden has not shown himself to be that.

00:52:51.000 He's thrown out the same sorts of lines over and over and over.

00:52:54.000 Quick side note on Joe Biden.

00:52:56.000 Remember that clip we played a minute ago?

00:52:57.000 No, Joe Biden, I don't think that you're innocent in all of this.

00:53:00.000 The Democratic Party, it's amazing.

00:53:01.000 saying bad things. 0.58

00:53:01.000 He literally told the crowd in 2012 that Mitt Romney was going to put black people back in chains and they cheered. 0.58

00:53:08.000 So no, Joe Biden, I don't think that you're innocent in all of this.

00:53:13.000 The Democratic Party, it's amazing.

00:53:15.000 As I said over the past couple of days, we are now playing a game of hold my beer.

00:53:19.000 Basically, Donald Trump will say, hold my beer, I'm going to do And then the Democrats will say, no, no, you hold the beer, I'm gonna do something crazy.

00:53:27.000 And then Trump's like, no, no, no, I'm gonna do something crazy, hold the beer.

00:53:30.000 And Democrats will be like, well, what if we just embrace the squad, hold the beer?

00:53:35.000 Does anyone wanna win the 2020 election?

00:53:37.000 Like, I really, like, does anyone, apparently nobody wants to win.

00:53:40.000 Apparently everybody just wants to yell at each other and club each other with mallets.

00:53:44.000 Does any, this is like, who framed Roger Rabbit?

00:53:47.000 Eventually, the only one left standing is going to be Judge Doom.

00:53:50.000 Like, this is just... It's utter insanity.

00:53:53.000 It's total craziness all the way through.

00:53:56.000 Okay, time for some things I like, and then instead of things I hate, I'm going to do a little bit of mailbag.

00:53:59.000 So, things I like today.

00:54:02.000 As you know, again, I get my relaxation from reading sports books.

00:54:05.000 There's a very good little sports book about hard luck Harvey Haddix.

00:54:09.000 So the greatest baseball game ever pitched was a game in 1959, pitched by Harvey Haddix.

00:54:13.000 He pitched a perfect game.

00:54:14.000 That means that he got everyone out.

00:54:17.000 Every single batter he faced, he got out for nine innings.

00:54:20.000 And then he did it for another three innings.

00:54:21.000 He pitched 12 innings of perfect baseball.

00:54:24.000 And then he lost the game in the 13th.

00:54:26.000 So he pitched a perfect game for 12 innings.

00:54:28.000 And then he lost the game in the 13th inning.

00:54:30.000 It's the greatest game ever pitched.

00:54:32.000 And the book is all about that game.

00:54:35.000 And it's pretty wild stuff.

00:54:38.000 So, you should check out the book.

00:54:40.000 Again, Hard Luck, Harvey Haddix, and The Greatest Game Ever Lost by Lou Friedman.

00:54:43.000 If you're a baseball fan, this is for you.

00:54:45.000 Okay, time for a thing I hate.

00:54:47.000 And by that I mean mailbag.

00:54:50.000 I don't hate the mailbag, so let's just do the mailbag.

00:54:52.000 Mendy says, I'm 24 years old.

00:54:54.000 I recently developed an intimate relationship with someone much my senior.

00:54:57.000 She is 36, almost 37.

00:54:58.000 She is pregnant. 0.82

00:54:59.000 I feel heartbroken and like my life is over.

00:55:01.000 I'm not ready for a child and did not see us together long-term.

00:55:04.000 She does not want an abortion.

00:55:05.000 I come from a religious family.

00:55:06.000 I've recently gotten into politics.

00:55:07.000 My view on abortion have shifted to fairly pro-life.

00:55:10.000 But when it is myself in the situation, it feels so different.

00:55:12.000 And he says, I understand if you don't read this on your show.

00:55:15.000 I appreciate everything you do and you mean a lot.

00:55:16.000 Thank you for being it.

00:55:17.000 Well, Mendy, I mean, time for some bad news.

00:55:21.000 Okay, the bad news is that obviously actions have consequences.

00:55:24.000 Here's the good news.

00:55:25.000 The good news is you get to be a dad.

00:55:27.000 Being a dad is the best thing in the entire world.

00:55:30.000 I have two kids.

00:55:31.000 They are unbelievable.

00:55:33.000 They're gonna make your life so much richer.

00:55:34.000 They're gonna make your life so much better.

00:55:36.000 And guess what?

00:55:36.000 You being a responsible human being is gonna make you a better person.

00:55:40.000 And you have a responsibility with this woman to make a life for your child. 1.00

00:55:44.000 It's not about you and this woman anymore.

00:55:46.000 It's about you and this woman and your child.

00:55:49.000 It's about you becoming a better person for having to work around somebody who you may have to learn to live with.

00:55:54.000 It's about you making sure that the next generation is well taken care of.

00:55:59.000 Be a dad to your own kid.

00:56:01.000 Preserve the life of your kid.

00:56:03.000 Listen, not every mistake has to end up being a life-changing, horrifying mistake.

00:56:08.000 Sometimes, the best things in life started as mistakes.

00:56:12.000 I mean, fascinating statistic.

00:56:13.000 You go back to 1930s, 1940s.

00:56:15.000 A heavy percentage, I think, if not a plurality, a heavy minority of all births in the United States were so-called shotgun wedding births.

00:56:22.000 I mean, there were a lot of preemies back in the 1930s and 40s.

00:56:25.000 A lot of people who were getting pregnant, and then two months later getting married, and then seven months later, the baby is born.

00:56:30.000 They say, oh, well, look at that.

00:56:31.000 The baby just came a little bit early.

00:56:32.000 That was very, very common in American life.

00:56:35.000 And American life wasn't worse for that when people married people based on the fact that they wanted to raise the child.

00:56:40.000 Now your priorities have to shift.

00:56:42.000 The reason you got yourself in this situation is because you weren't thinking about the future.

00:56:45.000 You weren't thinking about anybody beyond yourself, to be perfectly frank.

00:56:49.000 And now you have to think about something beyond yourself and that will be very good for you and it'll be great for your kid.

00:56:53.000 And that's what really matters in the end.

00:56:56.000 No, I don't think they do.

00:57:01.000 I think that this, at least in the Jewish view, the answer is no.

00:57:06.000 And certainly in the public policy view, the answer is no.

00:57:08.000 So there are certain dark thoughts that you cannot prevent.

00:57:11.000 Like if I tell you not to think of an elephant right now, you know what you're doing?

00:57:14.000 Thinking of an elephant.

00:57:15.000 So your brain sometimes just goes to dark places.

00:57:18.000 But it depends on how much it affects action.

00:57:20.000 I care about action.

00:57:21.000 I can't police what you're thinking.

00:57:22.000 I don't know what you're thinking unless you say it.

00:57:24.000 And I don't know what you're thinking unless you do it.

00:57:26.000 So, no, I don't think dark thoughts are the same as dark actions at all.

00:57:28.000 As far as sinfulness, that one's up to God, and you're gonna have to deal with God on that level because he's the only one who can tell what's inside your head.

00:57:35.000 Well, the way I explain God to my kids is there's a creator of the universe.

00:57:42.000 You look at the world around you.

00:57:43.000 It seems to have a particular order.

00:57:44.000 The reason that it seems to have rules and laws is because there is a rulemaker and a lawgiver.

00:57:49.000 And because that is true, there are certain actions you can take in your life that predictably will make your life better as a general rule.

00:57:57.000 And God wants you to do that because God cares about you and God loves you because God created you.

00:58:01.000 And what could be a greater act of love than creation?

00:58:03.000 Zach says, Hi Ben.

00:58:04.000 I'm a graduate student who will be graduating in December with my master's in biology.

00:58:08.000 I'm going into forensic science.

00:58:09.000 I'm doing an internship with a forensic lab at this coming fall semester.

00:58:12.000 What would be the best way to make the most of this opportunity?

00:58:15.000 And potentially turn it into a job after and use it to the market myself post-grad, thanks.

00:58:20.000 Well, if you're going into an internship...

00:58:24.000 And you're interning in a forensic lab.

00:58:25.000 I mean, get on some papers, obviously.

00:58:27.000 See if you can make connections.

00:58:30.000 I mean, that's really how you should be seeking every job at this point.

00:58:32.000 What kind of connections can you make?

00:58:34.000 What kind of resume building can you do?

00:58:36.000 What kind of research can you do?

00:58:37.000 What kind of skill sets can you broaden?

00:58:38.000 That's how you should approach every job.

00:58:39.000 job.

00:58:39.000 Charles says, Hello, Ben, if you could have a Sunday special with one of the founding fathers, who would it be?

00:58:43.000 And what questions would you ask?

00:58:44.000 Love the show.

00:58:45.000 It'd be Adams, because I think Adams was the most kind of interesting thinker.

00:58:49.000 On the one hand, Adams was a per I mean, he had deep political and personal convictions.

00:58:54.000 He He was somebody who was a deep believer in the rights to due process and free speech.

00:59:00.000 But at the same time, when it came to practical governance, he helped pass the Alien Sedition Act.

00:59:03.000 He was president at the time.

00:59:05.000 He had significant arguments with Thomas Jefferson over the nature and role of the federal government.

00:59:09.000 I think that he's a really interesting figure.

00:59:11.000 I think I understand Jefferson pretty well, but Adams is a little bit more enigmatic and quite brilliant and a wonderful writer.

00:59:17.000 Okay, final question.

00:59:19.000 Let us see.

00:59:21.000 Carson says, actually let's do this.

00:59:24.000 Asherah says, hi Ben.

00:59:25.000 Right now I'm considering going to law school after college.

00:59:27.000 Do you think it's worth investing the time and money?

00:59:29.000 If I'm not entirely sure I want to practice as an attorney, thanks for all you do.

00:59:31.000 Well, you have to assess what skillset you're actually going to receive from law school.

00:59:34.000 I went to law school.

00:59:35.000 I wasn't sure I was going to practice law.

00:59:36.000 I don't, but it taught me to think in a certain way.

00:59:38.000 Also credentialing does matter.

00:59:40.000 So it matters where you go to law school.

00:59:41.000 So if it's just, I'm going to get a law degree and that's about it.

00:59:46.000 And it does, the credential doesn't matter to me and the skillset doesn't matter to me and I may not practice, then no.

00:59:50.000 But if the credential matters and the skill set matters, then sure, that's something that's valuable beyond simply the practice of law.

00:59:57.000 Alrighty, well, we will be back here next Monday.

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01:00:35.000 Hey guys, over on the Matt Wall Show today, Democrats just passed a bill that would raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour.

01:00:42.000 Now, I'm going to explain why not only do I disagree with a $15 minimum wage, I actually think the minimum wage should be zero.

01:00:50.000 Also, a measure that was passed in California a couple years ago.

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01:01:03.000 We'll discuss that.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - July 19, 2019

The Bad Faith Olympics | Ep. 821

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