The Ben Shapiro Show - The Ben Shapiro Show Ep. 251 - To Democrats, Everything Is Sexist and Racist

Willie J. Parker used to oppose abortion, but now he s for it. Why? The answer isn t really clear, but we re supposed to sympathize with him because he clearly wants to help women. Here s the amazing thing: Parker admits that abortion is a life-ending process, which means that it should have quasi-human rights. But by that logic, no? Not according to Dr. Parker. He thinks so long as you re not fully human, by his vague definition, you have no rights whatsoever. And you can be killed for the sake of convenience. And that s pretty gross. Plus, is Trump trying to use the power of the White House to make people buy Ivanka s stuff? We ll get to that in a second, but first we ve got to give you a taste of what s to come. Ben Shapiro: Is Trump Fighting for the Power of The White House or Is He Focuses On His Own Supreme Court Nominee? Guests: Dr. Willy Parker: Life's Work: The Joy of Being An Abortionist? Dr. Joe Parker: My Journey From Pro Life to Pro-Life: How I Became Pro-Abortionist, And How I Learned to Love My Baby: The Story of a Pro Life Doctor Who Lost It All, by The New York Times Opinions on Abortion and Became Pro Life, by Dr. J.J. Parker: How to Talk About It in a Positive Way Thanks to Our Sponsors Wink Inc. for Sponsoring the Show: Wink Inc. & The Chockwinc Inc. Thanks To Effie & Wylie Johnson for Their Support Of The Showing It's A Good Mess, By Effie Willy J Parker & The Effie Johnson, by Ben Shapiro, Jr. & Ben Shapiro Sr. by The Vayner Sr. And The Good Work, by Ms. Condon, Jr., and & is a Good Workmanship, Thanks Willy Willy Jr. And Can I Say It's Better Than That's Gave Me A Good Thing? by Is This Is It's Gotta Say It So Much More Than That And This Is That And That's Not That And I Can Do It And That Willie Willie Can Help Me Say It And I'm Gotta Have It And This Willie & I Can Say It, Too Say It Better?

00:00:00.000 His name is Willie J. Parker and he's in OBGYN.

00:00:02.000 He's also the author of a new book, Life's Work, all about the joy of being an abortionist.

00:00:07.000 And now he's the subject of a fawning New York Times interview.

00:00:10.000 Parker used to oppose abortion, but now he's for it. 0.96

00:00:13.000 Why?

00:00:13.000 The answer isn't really clear, but we're supposed to sympathize with him because he clearly wants to help women.

00:00:19.000 Here is Parker's explanation for his shift from pro-life to pro-abortion.

00:00:22.000 Quote, I had come to a crisis moment regarding a religious understanding that left me unable to help women when I felt deeply

00:00:29.000 I needed to convert from a religious understanding that left me paralyzed to act on my deepest sense of connection to one that empowered me to do what I felt to be the right thing.

00:00:37.000 In other words, leave God behind.

00:00:38.000 I have a better system, so go for it.

00:00:40.000 This is actually kind of disgusting to compare the ideological movement from not killing babies to killing babies to a religious conversion and the notion that this guy felt bad because he couldn't help women who wanted abortions and thus abortion had to be correct. 0.82

00:00:52.000 That's license to commit all sorts of moral atrocities. 1.00

00:00:54.000 You feel bad for the woman whose husband's kind of a jerk, so you go and kill him? 1.00

00:00:57.000 But here's the amazing thing. 1.00

00:00:59.000 Parker admits, this doctor admits, that abortion is a life-ending process.

00:01:02.000 He says, quote, So it's a quasi-human, which means that it should have quasi-human rights, even by that logic, no?

00:01:13.000 Not according to Parker.

00:01:14.000 He thinks so long as you're not fully human, by his vague definition,

00:01:17.000 You have no rights whatsoever and you can be killed for the sake of convenience.

00:01:20.000 He says, quote, 0.97

00:01:35.000 Again, this is pretty gross.

00:01:36.000 He doesn't value them both.

00:01:37.000 If he did, he'd put some sort of conditions on the termination of what he calls fetal life.

00:01:41.000 Instead, he just says that a woman's desire for a promotion at work outranks some outsider's aspirations for her fetus.

00:01:48.000 But what about the fetus's aspirations?

00:01:49.000 Is the value of a baby's future truly just subjective?

00:01:53.000 What if the baby's already born and the mother wants to kill it? 0.99

00:01:55.000 Shouldn't an outsider's aspirations for the baby now trump the mother's desire? 0.60

00:01:58.000 Or no?

00:01:59.000 Parker talks about making abortion easy for women, using his rhetoric to inure women to any sort of emotional struggle.

00:02:05.000 He calls this, creepily enough, verbicane.

00:02:07.000 Seriously. 0.67

00:02:08.000 He then says that elite white women are responsible for people worrying about abortion, and that's, you guessed it, racist. 0.99

00:02:14.000 Here's what he says, quote,

00:02:20.000 Even if it's unconsciously.

00:02:21.000 They judge each other for rejecting that primary identity.

00:02:24.000 So if you think that the most essential role for a woman is to procreate, and humanity doesn't go on unless you do that, then anything to interrupt that process is to be counterintuitive or immoral. 0.96

00:02:33.000 The biggest insult to the notion that there's such a thing as black genocide is that the people who care about abortion really care about black women and black babies. 0.93

00:02:41.000 Well, people who don't want to kill black babies in the womb care more about black babies by definition than Dr. Parker, but when you're talking with the New York Times, it's always convenient to pull the race card. 0.82

00:02:51.000 It's also worth noting here that women are not acquiescing to some sort of arbitrarily defined societal role when they talk about the value of motherhood. 0.95

00:02:58.000 This is called biology.

00:03:00.000 The perpetuation of the human race occurs because women get pregnant and have babies. 1.00

00:03:04.000 To see this as some sort of curse rather than the greatest blessing on the planet makes you kind of a sick human being. 0.89

00:03:09.000 Parker finally compares pro-lifers to slavery. 0.99

00:03:12.000 Slavers.

00:03:13.000 He says,

00:03:25.000 If Parker really wanted to talk about a working analogy to slavery, he should probably start with what he does every day.

00:03:29.000 Deny the personhood of another human being for convenience and profit, and treat that person instead as property to be discarded.

00:03:36.000 If Parker is truly worried about controlling the lives of others, perhaps he should stop ending them.

00:03:40.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:03:40.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

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00:03:48.000 We have a lot to get to today.

00:03:49.000 We have a chock-full mailbag and gets all that.

00:03:52.000 Plus, is Trump fighting with his own Supreme Court nominee?

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00:05:32.000 And we'll get to Elizabeth Warren and all of the sexist nonsense coming out of the media in just a second, but it's been a bad 24 hours for Trump because he just can't control himself.

00:05:42.000 And you knew sooner or later this was going to get him in trouble.

00:05:44.000 Turns out it's sooner rather than later, because at the beginning you can sort of mask his personal deficiencies with the fact that on policy, Trump's been pretty good, right?

00:05:53.000 Picked Gorsuch, he puts out these executive orders that conservatives like, and you think, okay, is it really that big a deal that he mouths off a lot?

00:06:00.000 And to a certain extent, that's true.

00:06:02.000 And then you get a week like this one, where he really hasn't done anything.

00:06:04.000 There haven't been any major executive orders this week.

00:06:07.000 There haven't been any major policy moves this week.

00:06:09.000 It's basically just been Trump talking.

00:06:11.000 And that's most weeks for the president.

00:06:12.000 Most weeks for the president are not replete with action.

00:06:15.000 Most weeks for the president are not filled with executive orders changing the nature of government.

00:06:20.000 Most weeks for the president are the president going back and forth with Congress and the judiciary and making policy behind the scenes and talking a lot.

00:06:28.000 And the talking part of the job is actually kind of important.

00:06:30.000 Unfortunately, this is the part that Trump is not that good at.

00:06:33.000 So we start today with this hubbub that has broken out over Nordstrom.

00:06:37.000 So Nordstrom has decided they're no longer going to carry Ivanka Trump's clothing line.

00:06:41.000 I think this is a jerky move.

00:06:43.000 I do. 0.67

00:06:43.000 I think it's a gross move. 0.67

00:06:44.000 I think companies that are dumping Ivanka Trump's clothing line are really kind of gross.

00:06:47.000 I don't see why you wouldn't carry a clothing line just because you don't like the politics of a person's father.

00:06:52.000 Even if you don't like the politics of the person, I have kind of problems with the idea that you're not going to stock their clothing line.

00:06:58.000 Nordstrom said that they made this decision based on performance.

00:07:01.000 They said that the sales of Ivanka Trump products slid in the last half of the year.

00:07:05.000 That's certainly possible.

00:07:06.000 It's possible a lot of people started not buying Ivanka Trump stuff because they didn't like Trump himself.

00:07:10.000 Ivanka Trump's people say this is not true.

00:07:12.000 And so they claim that this was just discrimination, basically.

00:07:16.000 So, look.

00:07:18.000 Private businesses have the right to do whatever they want to do with regard to their business.

00:07:21.000 If Ivanka Trump's products are great, then other businesses will stock them, and they will sell, and it will be fine. 0.99

00:07:26.000 Do I think Nordstrom is being stupid about this? 0.99

00:07:28.000 Yes. 1.00

00:07:28.000 Do I think TJ Maxx is being stupid? 1.00

00:07:30.000 TJ Maxx has taken all the Ivanka Trump labels off of the racks, and they're now stocking Ivanka Trump's stuff kind of alongside all their other stuff. 0.99

00:07:37.000 I think that's silly.

00:07:38.000 Do I think that it's ridiculous that... What was it? 0.82

00:07:41.000 There's another one.

00:07:42.000 I'm trying to remember.

00:07:44.000 One of these companies, Neiman Marcus, pulled the Ivanka Trump jewelry. 0.98

00:07:48.000 Do I think that's ridiculous and silly? 0.99

00:07:49.000 Yes. 0.98

00:07:49.000 I don't see what buying a necklace has to do with Ivanka Trump's maternity leave policy or anything else. 0.98

00:07:55.000 That said, Trump's reaction is just brainless. 0.99

00:07:57.000 It's just brainless. 0.99

00:07:58.000 Donald Trump goes on Twitter. 0.85

00:08:00.000 And he starts tweeting about Nordstrom's.

00:08:02.000 Now, it's not unprecedented for the president to get angry at people for being mad at his daughter.

00:08:07.000 The people were passing around a Harry Truman letter where he went after a critic because Margaret Truman was a performer and somebody didn't like one of her performances and so he savaged the critic.

00:08:15.000 That's not quite the same thing as what Trump is doing here because here it actually has an impact on a business.

00:08:19.000 He says, And then, which is odd, the President of the United States' Twitter account actually retweeted that.

00:08:22.000 So the feeling had been,

00:08:34.000 Trump's personal Twitter account was going to be for Trumpian nonsense and the president account was going to be for presidential stuff and not anymore.

00:08:41.000 Now he's retweeting that sort of stuff.

00:08:44.000 That was not great.

00:08:45.000 Then it got worse.

00:08:46.000 Sean Spicer comes out and Sean Spicer starts ranting about Nordstrom.

00:08:50.000 So here is Secretary Spicer.

00:08:52.000 I think this was less of a family business and an attack on his daughter.

00:08:57.000 He ran for president.

00:08:59.000 He won.

00:09:00.000 He's leading this country.

00:09:01.000 And I think for people to take out their concern about his actions or his executive orders on members of his family, he has every right to stand up for his family and applaud their business activities, their success.

00:09:16.000 So, look, when it comes to his family, I think he's been very clear how proud he is of what they do and what they've accomplished.

00:09:23.000 And for someone to take out their concern with his policies on a family member of his is just not acceptable.

00:09:30.000 And the president has every right as a father to stand up for them.

00:09:34.000 Okay, he has every right as a father to stand up for them.

00:09:36.000 The question isn't as a father.

00:09:38.000 As a father, what he's doing is fine.

00:09:39.000 As a president, the question is, do you have the right to go out there and start railing on companies because they're not doing business with your daughter anymore?

00:09:45.000 And it's not just that.

00:09:46.000 Kellyanne Conway then goes on national television this morning, and she says openly, I'm gonna basically do an advertisement for Ivanka Trump's product, and she says, go buy Ivanka Trump's stuff, is what I would tell you.

00:09:57.000 I hate shopping, but I'm gonna go get some for myself today.

00:10:00.000 Hey look, there are plenty of us out here who would say that Nordstrom is doing the wrong thing.

00:10:04.000 There are plenty of us out here who would say go buy Ivanka's stuff.

00:10:06.000 I actually agree with that.

00:10:07.000 Go buy Ivanka's stuff.

00:10:09.000 That's not the point.

00:10:10.000 The point is this is not something that the White House ought to be doing because this is conflict of interest.

00:10:15.000 You're not supposed to be using the Press Secretary of the United States

00:10:19.000 Or Kellyanne Conway, the Senior Communications Advisor.

00:10:21.000 You're not supposed to be using these people in order to propagate business for your daughter, or for your siblings, or for yourself.

00:10:28.000 This is self-dealing, and it isn't good.

00:10:31.000 Under federal law, she may have violated federal law, under federal law, federal employees are not supposed to use public office for endorsement of any product, service, or enterprise, or for the private gain of friends and relatives.

00:10:41.000 None of this is any good.

00:10:43.000 If you want Trump to be good, if you want Trump to have a successful presidency, this sort of nonsense has to stop.

00:10:49.000 And this is not about railing on Trump.

00:10:50.000 This is not about, I don't like Trump.

00:10:52.000 This is about, no one should be doing this.

00:10:54.000 Imagine for a second that Hillary Clinton had been elected and people said, we're not sending donations to Chelsea anymore. 1.00

00:11:00.000 First of all, the right would cheer.

00:11:01.000 Second of all, if she then came out and she said, I want everyone in the country to give money to my foundation, to Chelsea's foundation.

00:11:08.000 I think people would be a little upset, and they'd have a right to be upset.

00:11:11.000 In fact, we spent most of the last election cycle talking about conflicts of interest between the Secretary of State and the Clinton Foundation.

00:11:17.000 To pretend that this doesn't exist when you stick a T by the name is just silly. 0.93

00:11:21.000 So this is ridiculous, and Trump shouldn't have engaged himself in this, but that wasn't the only silly thing that happened, okay? 0.92

00:11:27.000 The other silly thing that happened is that Neil Gorsuch, who is Trump's pick, his excellent pick for the Supreme Court, which I have praised up to wazoo at this point, I've thanked Trump multiple times for it, 0.93

00:11:38.000 Gorsuch was asked about Trump attacking the Seattle judge, this district court judge in Washington who put a stay on his executive order.

00:11:47.000 And Gorsuch, according to multiple sources, ranging from Richard Blumenthal, Democrat of Connecticut, to Senator Ben Sasse of Nebraska, who is a Republican,

00:11:55.000 Tore into Trump's attacks on the judiciary.

00:11:57.000 So apparently Gorsuch said that he didn't like what Trump was doing.

00:12:00.000 This is what Sass told Morning Joe this morning.

00:12:02.000 He said,

00:12:20.000 According to Blumenthal, Gorsuch called Trump's attacks disheartening and demoralizing.

00:12:25.000 And then Kelly Ayotte, who's the spokesperson for Neil Gorsuch, she said he said that he finds any criticism of a judge's integrity and independence disheartening and demoralizing.

00:12:33.000 Okay, so we now have three separate sources, including Gorsuch's spokesperson, who said that Gorsuch said he didn't like Trump's attacks on the judiciary.

00:12:40.000 And this is fully within character.

00:12:42.000 It's fully within character for Gorsuch.

00:12:43.000 Gorsuch's first call after his nomination was to Merrick Garland, the guy that Obama picked to fill Scalia's seat.

00:12:51.000 Because he has a lot of respect for other members of the judiciary.

00:12:55.000 Which I think is probably a good thing.

00:12:56.000 You want the judicial branch to defend itself.

00:12:58.000 You want the executive branch to defend itself.

00:13:00.000 Conflict between the branches is totally fine.

00:13:03.000 And yet, there's this whole contingent of people who now say Gorsuch has to go.

00:13:07.000 Terrible!

00:13:07.000 I don't even know what Gorsuch is doing.

00:13:09.000 So Laura Ingram, who's just become a joke of a human. 0.97

00:13:11.000 I mean, Laura Ingram, who is a very, very smart human being.

00:13:15.000 She clerked for Clarence Thomas.

00:13:17.000 She knows better than this.

00:13:18.000 Here's what she tweeted out.

00:13:19.000 Judge Gorsuch's comments about Donald Trump's tweets are concerning.

00:13:23.000 Judge Pryor or Hardiman knows better.

00:13:25.000 Doesn't bode well.

00:13:27.000 Doesn't bode well.

00:13:28.000 I miss the part where there's a provision in Article 3 of the Constitution that says you're not allowed to disagree with the President.

00:13:34.000 In fact, it seems to me one of the chief qualifications for being on the Supreme Court is the capacity to disagree with the President when you think that he's wrong or violating his duty.

00:13:42.000 And it's just, this is silly stuff. 0.88

00:13:44.000 It's silly stuff. 1.00

00:13:45.000 And then Trump, because he can't help himself, the problem is not that Trump attacks, the problem is Trump attacks like an idiot. 1.00

00:13:51.000 So Trump then goes on Twitter, and he starts tweeting, Senator Richard Blumenthal, who never fought in Vietnam, when he said for years he had MAJOR LIE, now represents what Judge Gorsuch told him? 1.00

00:14:02.000 Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Senator Blumenthal, never asked him about his long-term lie about his brave service in Vietnam.

00:14:08.000 All caps.

00:14:09.000 FAKE NEWS.

00:14:10.000 So number one, Blumenthal, what Blumenthal said wasn't fake news.

00:14:13.000 It was confirmed by Sass and Ayotte, both of whom were in the room.

00:14:16.000 That has nothing to do with Trump.

00:14:17.000 Trump was not there.

00:14:18.000 He doesn't know.

00:14:19.000 Second of all, when Trump goes after, he went after Chris Cuomo.

00:14:22.000 Now listen, I'm normally fine with going after Chris Cuomo.

00:14:24.000 I think Chris Cuomo has the IQ of a kumquat, but that doesn't change the fact that Chris Cuomo did actually ask Richard Blumenthal about the military service lie.

00:14:33.000 In fact, that was the very first thing he asked him in the interview. 0.99

00:14:36.000 So Trump is just making a fool of himself. 0.97

00:14:38.000 And there's no reason for this. 0.98

00:14:39.000 It's very frustrating. 0.98

00:14:40.000 If you want the policy to be good, and if you want the policy to be followed up by excellent rhetoric and verbiage, and if you don't want the policy undermined by stupidity, then you should be upset about this. 0.99

00:14:50.000 Okay? 0.99

00:14:51.000 Trump needs to do better.

00:14:53.000 He needs to do better.

00:14:54.000 And if he doesn't do better, he's going to be undermining his own cause.

00:14:57.000 We're going to talk a little bit more about all of that, plus the sort of trust me mentality, and we're going to get to the mailbag.

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00:15:59.000 So final note before we have to leave you on YouTube and Facebook.

00:16:05.000 All of this is a problem for Trump, mainly because a lot of what Trump is doing now is reliant

00:16:11.000 On the trust me phenomenon, the trust me philosophy, this idea that if we just trust him, it'll be okay.

00:16:16.000 So Sean Spicer was basically confronted at the White House press conference with the fact that Matt Drudge was saying, what are you guys doing about Obamacare?

00:16:24.000 Because the Republicans haven't touched Obamacare yet.

00:16:26.000 And here was Sean Spicer's response.

00:16:28.000 I think it's hardly stalling.

00:16:29.000 I think it's a mammoth thing to repeal and replace.

00:16:32.000 I think there's no question the President's commitment to doing this.

00:16:35.000 You've heard Speaker Ryan talk about how we should be able to have this wrapped up by the end of the year.

00:16:40.000 It's a big bill.

00:16:42.000 It got jammed through, and it was very sweeping.

00:16:45.000 We're talking about one-fifth of our economy.

00:16:48.000 We can either do it quickly, as the Democrats did, and end up with a monstrosity, where premiums go up, access is limited, or we can do it right.

00:16:56.000 And I think the president, while he wants to get this done as soon as possible and understand what's at stake, he wants to do it right.

00:17:02.000 He understands how important health care is to American families and individuals.

00:17:06.000 And so his goal is to get it done right and have an outcome that achieves the goals that it sets out to do.

00:17:14.000 Okay, so all of that sounds fine, but it is really a lot of trust me.

00:17:19.000 People are happy to trust Trump if they feel like he's in control.

00:17:21.000 If he's doing silly things like fighting with his own Supreme Court pick, if he's doing silly things like using the White House in order to promote Ivanka's business, it makes it harder to do the trust me routine.

00:17:30.000 A little bit.

00:17:31.000 So we're going to need some more good policy in order to balance out a lot of the bad rhetoric this week.

00:17:35.000 This has not been a good week for President Trump.

00:17:37.000 The last two were good.

00:17:38.000 This one was not.

00:17:38.000 But we'll get to more of that.

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The Ben Shapiro Show Ep. 251 - To Democrats, Everything Is Sexist and Racist

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