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00:00:02.000 Today, on the Ben Shapiro show, Joe Biden's aides are now testifying before Congress, and they're pleading the fifth and are not recalling things.

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00:01:00.000 Well, while the political world has been consumed with talk about Jeffrey Epstein or Russia Gate, the truth is that the biggest scandal continuously hiding in plain sight is the fact that for several years, we did not have a president of the United States.

00:01:14.000 Joe Biden, of course, was senile.

00:01:16.000 And that is coming out more and more every single day.

00:01:19.000 Yesterday, there was a House hearing that called in Biden aides to testify about what they knew when they knew it.

00:01:27.000 Was President Biden with it at all for years at a time?

00:01:31.000 And you had people around Biden, of course, trying to protect themselves because if it turns out they facilitated a senile human in being president of the United States so that they could sign what they wanted while he was mentally absent, well, that would presumably be some sort of crime.

00:01:46.000 It could bring about liability.

00:01:48.000 Well, yesterday, as we say, there were a bunch of people who testified.

00:01:51.000 One of those people was Steve Roschetti.

00:01:53.000 Steve Roschetti was a counselor to the president.

00:01:55.000 And his opening statement was this: quote, the Trump administration's efforts to taint President Biden's legacy with baseless assertions about President Biden's mental health are an obvious attempt to deflect from the chaos of this administration's first six months.

00:02:08.000 The committee's investigation is part of a concerted effort by the administration and its congressional allies to diminish the record of the former president by advancing the false narrative that President Biden was mentally unable to perform his constitutional duties and that members of his staff usurped the president's Article II powers.

00:02:24.000 Let me be clear: at all times during his presidency, I believed that President Biden was fully capable of exercising his presidential duties and responsibilities and that he did so.

00:02:33.000 Neither I nor anyone else usurped President Biden's constitutional duties, which he faithfully and fully carried out each and every day.

00:02:41.000 Well, then, that solves nothing because you just say that you believed that he was with it.

00:02:47.000 What else are you going to say?

00:02:48.000 You're going to go to jail if you didn't believe that he was with it.

00:02:52.000 According to Roschetti, senior White House staff kept the president fully informed so he could provide direction and make all important decisions.

00:02:59.000 I firmly believe that at all times during my four years in the White House, President Biden was fulfilling his constitutional duties.

00:03:05.000 Did he stumble occasionally, make mistakes, get up on the wrong side of the bed?

00:03:09.000 He did.

00:03:10.000 We all did.

00:03:12.000 Well, I mean, that is a rather generous assessment of the situation, especially given the fact that according to CNN, earlier this month, three Biden aides, White House physician, Dr. Kevin O'Connor, former assistant to the president and senior advisor to the first lady Anthony Bernal, and former assistant to the president and deputy chief of staff, Annie Tomasini, pled the fifth in the face of questions from the panel.

00:03:33.000 As you will recall, invoking the Fifth Amendment typically is a way to prevent yourself from being incriminated.

00:03:40.000 Now, there's more information from CNN here that is kind of shocking.

00:03:44.000 Apparently, Ron Clain, the former Biden chief of staff, told the committee last week that Hillary Clinton expressed concerns to him in 2023 that Joe Biden's age was an issue the campaign had not dealt with effectively, and that Jake Sullivan, the NSA, told him in 2024, after the presidential debate, that Biden wasn't as effective as he had once been.

00:04:04.000 Well, I mean, duh on that one.

00:04:06.000 Klain also told the committee he believed Biden had the mental sharpness to serve as president and saw no reason to doubt Biden's mental acuity.

00:04:14.000 But again, according to a source familiar with an interview, an interview between Ashley Williams, a former special assistant to the president and deputy director of Oval Office Operations, she said for a transcribed interview with the committee.

00:04:28.000 Apparently, she told the committee she believes Biden was in command the night of the debate and was fit to be president, including now.

00:04:34.000 However, the source also said that Williams stated she did not recall many times during her five-hour interview to several questions.

00:04:44.000 She said, I do not recall.

00:04:45.000 Okay, I do not recall is an amazing way of avoiding a perjury trap.

00:04:48.000 Because if you say you didn't recall, there's literally no way to catch you in perjury.

00:04:52.000 You just say you didn't remember.

00:04:54.000 I mean, tip, if you are ever called in to an investigation, that is the way to avoid an answer: I do not recall.

00:05:00.000 Sometimes you don't.

00:05:00.000 A lot of the time, you absolutely do recall, but there is no way to actually catch you on that lie.

00:05:07.000 Apparently, Williams said she did not recall on questions, including questions about Biden using a wheelchair.

00:05:15.000 She was asked, were there discussions in the White House about whether Joe Biden ought to use a wheelchair?

00:05:18.000 And she said, I do not recall.

00:05:20.000 I feel like you would recall that.

00:05:22.000 I feel like if that conversation didn't happen, you would just say no.

00:05:25.000 I do not, he's the sitting.

00:05:28.000 I shouldn't use the word sitting when I'm talking about the president in a wheelchair, but he was the sitting president of the United States.

00:05:33.000 If there were a conversation in the White House today about whether Donald Trump should use a wheelchair, do you think the people in that room might recall that in the future?

00:05:40.000 I think probably.

00:05:43.000 She also said she did not recall if there were discussions about Biden undergoing a cognitive test.

00:05:48.000 That is clearly untrue.

00:05:49.000 If she discussed Biden declining physically or mentally, she doesn't recall whether she ever had that conversation.

00:05:54.000 If she ever had to wake Biden up again, we are talking here about a former special assistant to the president and deputy director of Oval Office Operations saying she did not recall if she ever had to wake Joe Biden up.

00:06:09.000 I promise you, if you never had to wake the president up, you would just say you never had to wake the president up.

00:06:16.000 She also said she didn't recall how she got involved in his 2020 campaign.

00:06:21.000 She even said that she would not say that a good memory was an important trait for working at the White House.

00:06:26.000 And that is a way of attacking two separate issues.

00:06:29.000 One is, If you keep saying, I don't recall, to very obvious things, should you have been working there?

00:06:33.000 And number two, do you think the president could recall anything?

00:06:36.000 And if so, if you think that he had memory problems, should he be in the White House?

00:06:41.000 And she's like, well, I don't think it's important to be able to remember things.

00:06:43.000 Who am I?

00:06:43.000 Where am I?

00:06:44.000 I don't even know what we're talking about right now.

00:06:47.000 The committee is expected to transcribe interviews with additional high-level aides next week, including with former deputy chief of staff for policy Bruce Reed on Tuesday and former senior advisor to the president for communications inita dunn on Thursdays.

00:06:59.000 That investigation is going to continue and it's going to continue to damage the Democrats.

00:07:03.000 Democrats still do not have a good answer on all of this.

00:07:06.000 It is a sin that is indeed original to the Democratic Party and very difficult to escape because it encompasses pretty much the entirety of the Democratic Party.

00:07:16.000 There is a reason that you have people like Pete Buttigieg, who's a member of the cabinet, who is trying to run deliberately away from this.

00:07:27.000 He told NPR's Steve Inske: I told the truth, which is that he was old.

00:07:31.000 You could see he was old.

00:07:33.000 That ain't going to do it, Pete.

00:07:35.000 All righty, folks, coming up, the insane leftism of the Democratic Party is now evident on every issue from the Gaza Strip to illegal immigration.

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00:10:09.000 Had former Vice President Kamala Harris actually run for California governor, she would have had to answer those questions, but that is the other piece of breaking news today.

00:10:15.000 California is not going to have to be subjected to Kamala Harris as the governor.

00:10:20.000 There's a lot of talk about her running for governor after her failed vice presidency.

00:10:23.000 She put out a statement in which she said, quote, in recent months, I've given serious thought to asking the people of California for the privilege to serve as their governor.

00:10:32.000 I love this state, its people, and its promise.

00:10:34.000 It is my home.

00:10:35.000 But after deep reflection, I've decided I will not run for governor in this election.

00:10:39.000 Now, believe it or not, some people are trying to interpret this as Kamala Harris wants to run for president again in 2028.

00:10:45.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:10:48.000 The thing about Kamala Harris is that as far to the left as Kamala Harris was, and she was really far to the left, she is not far enough to the left for the Democratic Party now.

00:10:56.000 The Democratic Party has become the BDS, pro-Hamas, pro-illegal immigration party.

00:11:01.000 And they are having a very difficult time.

00:11:03.000 They are the party of Sidney Sweeney's breasts make you a Nazi.

00:11:07.000 This is what the Democratic Party is becoming in real time.

00:11:09.000 I don't know what was in the water, but whatever they drank made them insane, totally crazy.

00:11:16.000 Harris said she will share more details in the months ahead about her plans.

00:11:19.000 Well, we all wait with bated breath.

00:11:21.000 I mean, if there's one thing the American people want more of, it's Kamala Harris in politics.

00:11:26.000 She says, as we look ahead, we must be willing to pursue change through new methods and fresh thinking, committed to our same values and principles, but not bound by the same playbook.

00:11:33.000 Well, thanks for that.

00:11:34.000 That's deeply illuminating.

00:11:36.000 How exciting.

00:11:38.000 But of course, Kamala Harris was not going to run for California governor because, again, even if she ran, being California governor after Gavin Newsom means that she is now delayed from running for president if she wanted to.

00:11:50.000 And again, I'm not sure that there is a guarantee she was going to end up as California governor.

00:11:53.000 Was she going to win a primary in California?

00:11:55.000 Not clear to me at all.

00:11:56.000 The reality is that once again, Kamala Harris is in the wrong place in the Democratic Party.

00:12:02.000 The Democratic Party has moved far to her left.

00:12:05.000 Zora Mamdani, AOC, Bernie Sanders, these are the Democrats today.

00:12:10.000 This is who they are.

00:12:12.000 Last night, the Democrats voted on whether to continue to allow Israel to buy military weaponry.

00:12:21.000 That was the issue yesterday.

00:12:25.000 There was a bill that was put up by Democrats, a resolution rather, to block weapon sales to Israel.

00:12:31.000 By the way, that is not about military aid.

00:12:33.000 That is about whether Israel should be allowed to buy weapons from the United States with its own money.

00:12:39.000 More than half of Senate Democrats voted for two resolutions to block weapon sales to Israel.

00:12:45.000 That is how crazy the Democratic Party is.

00:12:47.000 It's being led by, of course, Senator Bernie Sanders.

00:12:50.000 Bernie Sanders is, as I've said, a thousand times as Jewish as a ham sandwich.

00:12:54.000 He has no commitment to anything Judaic.

00:12:55.000 The fact that he was born in an ethnically Jewish household means nothing to me.

00:13:01.000 Jewishness actually has some aspects of, you know, culture, behavior, religiosity.

00:13:05.000 Bernie Sanders has none of those things.

00:13:08.000 Bernie Sanders went on the floor of the Senate, by the way, and continued to repeat an overt lie that we talked about on the show a couple of days ago, this picture that went around the world of a kid with cystic fibrosis being posed as though he was dying of starvation in Gaza.

00:13:21.000 The Senate rejected both resolutions.

00:13:23.000 The first would have blocked the sale of tens of thousands of assault rifles to Israel, assault rifles.

00:13:29.000 You mean military weaponry for use by the IDF.

00:13:32.000 It failed 70 to 27.

00:13:34.000 The second, which would have blocked the sale of about $675 million of bombs and other material to Israel, failed 73 to 24.

00:13:41.000 Democrats were split.

00:13:42.000 And that included a bunch of supposedly mainstream Democrats.

00:13:46.000 Now, there are some who want to run for president, like Ruben Gallego of Arizona and Alyssa Slotkin of Michigan, who missed the votes.

00:13:53.000 But Bernie Sanders said the tide is turning.

00:13:55.000 The American people do not want to spend billions to starve children in Gaza.

00:13:58.000 We'll get to the situation in Gaza in a little while.

00:14:00.000 Again, the situation in Gaza is being created by Hamas by the United Nations.

00:14:05.000 This would all be over today if Hamas went into exile and released the hostages.

00:14:11.000 That would be the end of the war.

00:14:12.000 Everybody knows that.

00:14:13.000 Everyone.

00:14:14.000 President Trump, he gets this one right, is absolutely correct on this.

00:14:18.000 The media onslaught over the course of the last couple of weeks is the last gasp of Hamas before it dies.

00:14:23.000 That is what this is.

00:14:24.000 The propagandistic release of false information designed to suggest that Israel is in fact committing a genocide when, in fact, Israel has shipped in literally 10 million meals since the end of May into the Gaza Strip via the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.

00:14:44.000 The idea that Israel is participating in mass starvation when Israel is literally the only source that is allowing food in, and the UN is blocking the entry of food because they want Hamas to steal all of it.

00:14:55.000 That is being facilitated by a media that wants Hamas to win and a Democratic Party that apparently would like for Hamas to win.

00:15:01.000 And again, that falls right in line with the Pod Save America bros suggesting that basically all support for the state of Israel should end immediately from the Democratic Party.

00:15:12.000 It's an amazing abdication of moral duty on behalf of the Democrat, but this is where it was moving anyway.

00:15:17.000 And again, for those who don't believe me, here is exclusive footage from Daily Wire from Cassie Akiva showing the aid actively being looted.

00:15:25.000 These are UN trucks.

00:15:26.000 You can see them entering and then immediately being looted by Hamas.

00:15:31.000 You can see a bunch of trucks that are about to enter into the areas of the Gaza Strip that are not controlled by the IDF.

00:15:39.000 They roll in.

00:15:42.000 It's a bunch of UN vehicles at the front.

00:15:46.000 And then you can see a large crowd that forms, and that crowd is going to descend on these aid trucks and take everything.

00:15:59.000 That is how aid distribution goes as facilitated by the United Nations, which, again, is just an adjunct to Hamas at this point.

00:16:06.000 The amount of propaganda that is being released by the left, by Hamas, by its friends in the media, totally insane.

00:16:13.000 And the Democratic Party has bought into all of it.

00:16:15.000 This is the Zoran Mamdani Democratic Party, without a doubt.

00:16:20.000 This is not an orderly distribution of aid.

00:16:23.000 What they want is Hamas to survive.

00:16:26.000 It's the same reason, by the way, that you see Canada now declaring.

00:16:29.000 I mean, again, look at this b-roll.

00:16:31.000 It's insane.

00:16:31.000 People are just climbing up, grabbing the food, no orderly distribution.

00:16:34.000 These are all young military-age males who are grabbing the food.

00:16:38.000 Some of them have guns on them.

00:16:41.000 Amazing stuff.

00:16:42.000 But this is the way that apparently the left, the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the Democratic Party would prefer it.

00:16:51.000 And they would like to reward the perpetrators of October 7th with a state.

00:16:55.000 And the Democratic Party is talking about cutting off aid to Israel in the middle of all of this.

00:17:00.000 Amazing, amazing stuff.

00:17:03.000 Germany has now suggested that it is going to move forward with some sort of recognition of a Palestinian state.

00:17:08.000 Canada's Mark Carney suggested they would recognize a Palestinian state at the UN.

00:17:12.000 One of the hilarious things about all these countries doing this, which is like recognizing a state of Narnia, there are no borders.

00:17:17.000 There is no government.

00:17:18.000 There is no governmental structure.

00:17:20.000 There is no control of territory.

00:17:22.000 And yet, apparently, the state is going to magically exist only in the aftermath of the greatest terror attack on the state of Israel in literally its entire existence.

00:17:30.000 Mark Carney of Canada, and he could be a Democratic Party apparatus, given his political priors.

00:17:36.000 Yesterday, he announced that they would recognize a Palestinian state at the UN.

00:17:41.000 Canada intends to recognize the state of Palestine at the 80th session of the United Nations General Assembly in September 2025.

00:17:52.000 This intention is predicated on the Palestinian Authorities' commitment to much needed reforms, including commitments by the Palestinian authorities, President Abbas, to fundamentally reform its governance, to hold general elections in 2026, in which Hamas can play no part, and to demilitarize the Palestinian state.

00:18:14.000 They're not going to do any of those things.

00:18:16.000 So you're going to preliminarily accept a state of Palestine that will do zero of the things that you're calling on it to do.

00:18:21.000 First of all, Mahmoud Abbas is 89 years old.

00:18:23.000 There's not been an election held in the Palestinian Authority-controlled area since 2006.

00:18:29.000 Mahmoud Abbas is currently in year 19 of a four-year term.

00:18:33.000 If they hold elections, Hamas will win.

00:18:35.000 You can call it by another name, but Hamas will win.

00:18:37.000 It's ridiculous.

00:18:38.000 It's ridiculous on its face.

00:18:40.000 Germany is also making sounds along these lines because, again, the Europeans are just of the opinion that if you magically declare things, then bad guys go away, apparently.

00:18:48.000 The United States has responded.

00:18:50.000 President Trump has said, well, you know what?

00:18:52.000 If Canada is so insistent on creating another terror state in the Middle East, maybe they don't need a trade deal with us.

00:18:57.000 President Trump, again, the only voice of moral clarity in our modern politics, apparently.

00:19:01.000 It really is an amazing, amazing thing.

00:19:04.000 The United States has also placed sanctions on both the PA and the PLO because they are terrorist organizations.

00:19:10.000 Fatah is a military wing of the Palestinian Authority.

00:19:12.000 The Palestinian Authority still to this day pays terrorists to kill Jews.

00:19:18.000 And you have all these people who are coming out of the woodwork in favor of a Palestinian state on the basis of what?

00:19:22.000 On the basis of the successful Hamas propaganda campaign in which they steal aid, murder their own people, and then blame Israel.

00:19:29.000 David Makofsky Has a good thread over at X.com.

00:19:32.000 He's director of the program on Arab-Israel relations at the Washington Institute of Near East Policy.

00:19:38.000 And he points out anyone who supports getting more food to people in Gaza must ask tough questions of the UN.

00:19:43.000 The UN itself reports 87% of its 2010 food trucks in Gaza, 85% by tonnage from May 19th to July 29th were intercepted either peacefully by crowds or forcefully by armed actors.

00:19:55.000 That is not an Israeli claim.

00:19:56.000 That's a UN admission as per the UN website.

00:20:01.000 Again, it is an insane op that we are watching play out in real time.

00:20:06.000 And the Democratic Party is all on board.

00:20:08.000 They are all on board.

00:20:09.000 They're horseshoe theorying around to agreeing with Marjorie Hale-Green and Tucker Carlson, which is always amusing.

00:20:15.000 But Zoran Mamdani is the direction of the Democratic Party going forward.

00:20:18.000 And we'll see how it works out for them because it comes along with a lot of baggage.

00:20:22.000 Anybody who thinks this is like a singular Israel issue for the Democratic Party, nope, this is a package deal.

00:20:27.000 It is part of the broader omni-cause of the Democratic Party.

00:20:30.000 And that broader omni-cause is the suggestion that America is an oppressive state, a police state that acts on behalf of white supremacy.

00:20:38.000 It is all one giant blob of left-wing third worldism.

00:20:43.000 That is what the Democratic Party has become.

00:20:46.000 It's why you see Zoran Mamdani becoming a face of the Democratic Party.

00:20:51.000 It's why I've warned that AOC is likely to be the Democratic nominee in 2028.

00:20:56.000 And Zor Mamdani is not even running away from his own insanity, by the way.

00:21:01.000 The New York mayoral frontrunner.

00:21:04.000 He yesterday defended his proposal to defund the police.

00:21:07.000 Yesterday, here's what he had to say.

00:21:12.000 My statements in 2020 were ones made amidst a frustration that many New Yorkers felt at the murder of George Floyd and the inability to deliver on what Eric Adams, of all people, described as the right for all of us to be able to enjoy safety and justice, that we need not choose between the two.

00:21:44.000 Unbelievable.

00:21:46.000 This is who you guys are choosing.

00:21:47.000 This is the direction you guys want to move.

00:21:48.000 Okay, good luck to you.

00:21:49.000 By the way, in 2014, he said that he wanted to disband the NYPD's strategy response group, which is their way of lowering crime rate, Zor Mamdani.

00:21:58.000 Again, it's a package deal, gang.

00:22:00.000 Now, for all those who believe that the Israel situation is just about Israel, the Gaza situation is just about Gaza.

00:22:05.000 These are all localized issues.

00:22:06.000 Ask yourself why it is the entire left agrees with Hamas, why they have decided to mobilize behind the idea that the most important thing is apparently for Hamas to retain control of the Gaza Strip.

00:22:18.000 Why is that happening?

00:22:20.000 Why is that a left-wing cause?

00:22:22.000 Again, it's kind of bizarre.

00:22:25.000 It's the queers for Palestine aspect of the left.

00:22:28.000 Why are they supporting, in effect, a terrorist group, as well, by the way, as a population that continues to support terrorism against Jews on behalf of what would be another Sharia law state?

00:22:39.000 Why are they doing that?

00:22:41.000 And the answer, again, has to do with a coalitional approach to the destruction of the West.

00:22:48.000 When I talk about my new book, Lions and Scavengers, the coalition of scavengers is very real.

00:22:52.000 It has taken over the Democratic Party.

00:22:54.000 It is a various coalition of third worldism, libertinism, and economic envy.

00:23:03.000 And when you put all of that together, what you end up with is fellow travelers who just want to tear down the institutions of the society.

00:23:09.000 And that is the Democratic Party right now.

00:23:10.000 That is what the Democratic Party wants.

00:23:13.000 And you can see it in every aspect of their policymaking.

00:23:15.000 Are you coming up?

00:23:15.000 More insane leftism.

00:23:17.000 Now, the New York Times is a columnist who's defending actual obstruction of justice, trying to stop ICE from doing its job first.

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00:24:25.000 Also, you may have noticed that we've been on the road a lot lately, and even more travel is coming up.

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00:24:40.000 And finally, home feeling, multiply that by 100 compared to the average mattress experience.

00:24:45.000 I genuinely love my Helix sleep mattress because, again, it was made for me.

00:24:49.000 It was personalized.

00:24:50.000 That means it is firm but breathable, which is what I need when I'm on the road.

00:24:52.000 Sometimes his mattress is too soft.

00:24:54.000 Sometimes it heats up.

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00:25:00.000 Producer Zach is now working with Helix on one of his recent mattress purchases.

00:25:04.000 So, Zach, explain.

00:25:06.000 I actually bought a Helix Sleep mattress right before we went on our travel.

00:25:09.000 And so I didn't even get to sleep on it.

00:25:11.000 So I came back and realized it was actually the wrong firmness for me.

00:25:13.000 And I worked with their sleep specialist, Daylon, and he hooked me right up.

00:25:17.000 He's like, you're still within the 100-day policy.

00:25:20.000 So I got you hooked up.

00:25:22.000 Here's the right comfort.

00:25:23.000 I did the little sleep test, which I should have done from the beginning.

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00:25:32.000 Pretty excited.

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00:25:57.000 Go to illegal immigration for a second.

00:25:59.000 When you talk about illegal Immigration.

00:26:01.000 It seems pretty obvious to everybody that a country ought to have a border.

00:26:04.000 Forget about what happens with the people already here.

00:26:07.000 We're going to have all sorts of debates about people who have had children here or who have supposedly integrated into the economy.

00:26:12.000 I'm talking about the very baseline question.

00:26:16.000 Should people be allowed to illegally immigrate over our southern border?

00:26:21.000 And should they be allowed to live here indefinitely?

00:26:23.000 The left has taken the position that a closed border is somehow racist and wrong.

00:26:28.000 And not only that, to facilitate lawbreaking is somehow good.

00:26:32.000 Michelle Goldberg, another one of the execrable columnists for the New York Times, literally has a piece praising this today in the New York Times.

00:26:41.000 Quote, Elizabeth Castillo wasn't an activist until immigration and customs enforcement started taking away her neighbors.

00:26:47.000 It all began in June after Donald Trump directed ICE agents to sweep LA, then used scattered violence at protests of ICE tactics as a pretext to send in the military.

00:26:56.000 Castillo felt her working-class neighborhood in Pasadena was under siege.

00:27:01.000 So, what did she do?

00:27:03.000 Well, she decided that she was going to act.

00:27:05.000 When she saw ICE vehicles in the streets, she followed them in her car, honking and shouting to warn people they were coming.

00:27:12.000 She started getting up before dawn to patrol her apartment complex.

00:27:15.000 Then she contacted the National Day Labor Organizing Network, which runs a nearby job center.

00:27:19.000 Through them, she was plugged into a citywide network of people who are constantly tracking ICE's activities.

00:27:24.000 Doing those amateur anti-ICE reconnaissance in LA are people from established nonprofits that work closely with the mayor's office.

00:27:31.000 Then there are more militant groups that, beyond simply documenting ICE's operations, try to actively disrupt them.

00:27:36.000 Ron Gochez, a high school teacher and spokesman for one of the more radical organizations, Union Del Barrio, said, quote, we have people patrolling all over the city, starting at 5:30 in the morning.

00:27:46.000 We get on the megaphone.

00:27:47.000 We denounce the terrorists for being there, the terrorists that would be ICE.

00:27:50.000 And then we inform the community in the immediate area that they are present.

00:27:53.000 And then we say to the people, if you are documented, come out, come outside, join us.

00:27:57.000 Help us to defend your neighbor.

00:28:00.000 So this is Michelle Goldberg actively praising obstruction of justice and violation of the law.

00:28:06.000 That is where we are with the Democratic mainstream left.

00:28:10.000 It's totally insane.

00:28:12.000 But if this is the way the left wants to play it, then we're going to see whether Americans like it or not.

00:28:19.000 I suppose they've been relegated to this far-left perspective because they've been so unsuccessful at everything else.

00:28:25.000 Despite all of the suggestions that President Trump is a wild man who's going to destroy the American economy, yesterday we had those Q2 GDP numbers.

00:28:33.000 They came in at 3%.

00:28:34.000 That's a very solid number.

00:28:36.000 There's President Trump yesterday talking about the economy.

00:28:39.000 I'd like to begin by saying a few words about the unbelievable kind of numbers that we've been putting up.

00:28:49.000 And as I said, the number of 3% the pace in the second quarter, we smashed all expectations.

00:28:58.000 They thought it would be maybe a little bit less than two.

00:29:01.000 And it was three, a little bit more than three.

00:29:04.000 Consumer spending is up.

00:29:06.000 Business investment is way up.

00:29:08.000 Domestic manufacturing is way up.

00:29:11.000 Real disposable family income is up.

00:29:14.000 And personal savings are up.

00:29:16.000 Other than that, we're not doing so great.

00:29:20.000 We have the hottest country.

00:29:22.000 And I'll tell you, it's a great, we're having a lot of fun with it.

00:29:27.000 And Democrats are freaking out over all of this, obviously.

00:29:31.000 The National Economic Council director Kevin Hassett also added that the GDP release is showing great strength.

00:29:37.000 The story, the anti-Trump story, has been that we're going to have a recession or a depression because of the tariffs, which are going to jack up prices and cause consumers to route to the exits headed back.

00:29:49.000 Every single thing about this GDP release has shown strength.

00:29:55.000 Okay, and he's not wrong about all of that.

00:29:58.000 Treasury Secretary Scott Besson says, listen, the economy better stay strong because on the other side, you've got a bunch of rampant socialists ready to go.

00:30:05.000 Why are we on the verge of Caracas on the Hudson in New York?

00:30:11.000 Why is this guy getting traction?

00:30:13.000 Because people, young people, are disillusioned with the system.

00:30:18.000 So when you do this, you make everyone a shareholder.

00:30:23.000 You make everyone a stakeholder.

00:30:26.000 People who are part of the system do not want to bring down the system.

00:30:33.000 Okay, so this means it's very important that the Trump economy stay on track.

00:30:37.000 Really, really important.

00:30:38.000 And here's where you have a lot of crosswinds in the Trump economy.

00:30:41.000 The Wall Street Journal has an editorial talking about this GDP report.

00:30:44.000 And there are some very, very salutary signs for the Trump administration.

00:30:48.000 And there are also some kind of strange things about this GDP report that could signal choppy waters in the future.

00:30:54.000 As the Wall Street Journal points out, most striking are second quarter reports' wild internal details.

00:30:59.000 Net exports, meaning exports minus imports, added a remarkable 4.99% to GDP as imports fell 30.3%, meaning that the tariffs have meant that fewer people are importing and fewer people are buying imports, a lot of people buying domestic main product.

00:31:13.000 Imports subtract from growth in the national accounts because GDP measures domestic production.

00:31:18.000 Imports are produced overseas.

00:31:20.000 But of course, imports are still crucial as inputs for businesses in the United States.

00:31:25.000 The crazy swing in imports shows how much President Trump's up-and-down trade policies have disrupted business decisions and left companies scrambling to adapt.

00:31:32.000 This seems to have had a negative effect on private domestic investment, which fell 15.6% in the second quarter after a surge in the first quarter.

00:31:40.000 Non-residential business investment contributed only 0.27% to GDP as businesses rapidly drew down their inventories.

00:31:48.000 Now, the consumer continued to spend, contributing 0.98% to GDP, which is a decent number.

00:31:56.000 Final sales to private domestic purchases, which is a measure of demand, rose only 1.2%.

00:32:02.000 Prices continue to remain steady, which is why you're not seeing inflation right now.

00:32:08.000 So what does this mean?

00:32:09.000 The answer is nobody knows, right?

00:32:10.000 The Wall Street Journal is saying this openly.

00:32:12.000 The second quarter was all but over before the passage of the one big beautiful bill.

00:32:17.000 It's going to have new incentives for business investment.

00:32:20.000 It could save the Trump economy.

00:32:22.000 Trade, on the other hand, is pushing back against that.

00:32:25.000 So you have a bunch of these sort of cross-cutting effects.

00:32:28.000 The bottom line is that the economy must remain strong in order to prevent the insane Democrats.

00:32:34.000 And I really mean this.

00:32:35.000 The Democrats have lost their ever-loving minds.

00:32:37.000 You thought that they were going to turn around after being defeated by President Trump and the Republicans and maybe get a little sanity.

00:32:42.000 I've seen zero evidence that this is the case.

00:32:44.000 They continue to swing out to the more and more insane left in the hopes that President Trump will collapse and basically hand them the presidency and the Congress.

00:32:54.000 This apparently is the plan here.

00:32:58.000 Now, does the Federal Reserve need to cut those interest rates?

00:33:02.000 We are getting to the point now where if we have another quarter of no inflation, I think the Federal Reserve cuts interest rates.

00:33:08.000 Yesterday, Jerome Powell said that the interest rates will remain unchanged.

00:33:11.000 That, of course, is not a surprise.

00:33:12.000 There was a lot of speculation that that was going to happen considering the fact that, again, President Trump is still negotiating out these tariffs and it's unclear what the effect of pricing is going to be from those tariffs.

00:33:24.000 Again, one of the problems with sort of the tariffs is that one of the ways that prices stay stable, if the tariffs go into place, is that demand decreases.

00:33:32.000 And so there, you would say, okay, fine.

00:33:34.000 Well, then you need to jog the economy with presumably looser monetary policy.

00:33:40.000 That's what President Trump is basically calling for.

00:33:41.000 We'll see if that materializes next quarter.

00:33:43.000 But here is Jerome Powell saying, before that happens, how to make sure the prices don't spike.

00:33:47.000 Despite elevated uncertainty, the economy is in a solid position.

00:33:51.000 The unemployment rate remains low, and the labor market is at or near maximum employment.

00:33:57.000 Inflation has been running somewhat above our 2% longer run objective.

00:34:03.000 In support of our goals, today the Federal Open Market Committee decided to leave our policy interest rate unchanged.

00:34:10.000 We believe that the current stance of monetary policy leaves us well positioned to respond in a timely way to potential economic developments.

00:34:20.000 Okay, so we will find out in very short order whether things change.

00:34:24.000 President Trump says that he believes not only do we need to lower interest rates, but that probably next quarter we will.

00:34:30.000 What you do is you lower them and let's see if there's inflation.

00:34:33.000 Right now, there's no inflation.

00:34:34.000 Everybody thought there would be.

00:34:35.000 All we have is billions of dollars of cash pouring into our country from other countries that took advantage of us for many, many years.

00:34:43.000 You know, they were taken advantage of.

00:34:45.000 We were like the stupid people that didn't know what they were doing.

00:34:49.000 They took advantage of us.

00:34:50.000 Other countries, friend and foe.

00:34:53.000 And by the way, the friend was oftentimes much worse than the foe when it comes to trade.

00:34:58.000 So if that happens, what you do is you raise your rates and you do what you have to do to stop inflation.

00:35:04.000 But we're keeping the rates high and it's hurting people from buying houses.

00:35:09.000 And we don't want that.

00:35:10.000 If for any reason that happened in a year or two, if there's some signs of inflation coming back, right now there's not.

00:35:16.000 We have a great thing going.

00:35:18.000 I think we're going to have the richest economy you've ever seen.

00:35:24.000 So again, certainly I hope that President Trump is right because the future of the country rides on that.

00:35:28.000 If the economy goes south, then the nuts are going to take over.

00:35:33.000 Well, meanwhile, the Trump administration is making strong moves in other areas.

00:35:38.000 The Make America Healthy Again agenda over at the Department of Health and Human Services continues apace.

00:35:43.000 One of their big moves came yesterday.

00:35:45.000 CMS, which is run by Dr. Mehmet Oz, Robert F. Kenny Jr., the president of the United States, they announced a new initiative that is going to make it much easier for you to keep track of your healthcare records, keep them all in one place, have access to those things, and ensure that you get better solutions faster.

00:36:01.000 Joining us on the line to discuss is Dr. Oz.

00:36:03.000 Dr. Oz, thanks so much for taking the time.

00:36:05.000 Really appreciate it.

00:36:06.000 Ben wonderful being with you.

00:36:07.000 I know we've talked about medical information in the past.

00:36:10.000 I think the big message that the president wanted to convey yesterday, and he wanted to host this event, it was at the White House, was that you own your medical records.

00:36:18.000 They're yours.

00:36:19.000 This isn't about some multinational corporation taking your data and sharing it elsewhere or information getting lost in the ether.

00:36:25.000 Information is vital.

00:36:26.000 It's yours, and we want you to own it.

00:36:28.000 And we're taking precautions to ensure that with the right security, you'll be able to get access to your medical records, which unlocks a whole bunch of opportunities to help Americans.

00:36:38.000 So let's talk about what's changed in terms of information and how you get your medical records.

00:36:43.000 And then we'll talk about the privacy aspect of this and the protections that are still going to be in place, because I know that's been the objection in large part.

00:36:49.000 So let's talk first of all about the difficulties of actually getting your medical records.

00:36:52.000 I mean, I think everybody has experienced this in the current medical system.

00:36:55.000 You don't have kind of a one-stop shop where all your medical records are aggregated.

00:36:59.000 You have to send faxes.

00:37:00.000 You have to send requests.

00:37:01.000 It may take weeks at a time in order to gather those records.

00:37:03.000 If you don't remember a doctor that you visited three years ago, you then have to go look it up.

00:37:07.000 I mean, I've had this personally.

00:37:08.000 I think everybody's had this personally.

00:37:10.000 What's changing here?

00:37:12.000 Ben, 60 years ago, literally this week, we started Medicare and Medicaid in this country.

00:37:18.000 It is this beautiful gem.

00:37:20.000 It's the backbone of the social safety net.

00:37:22.000 It's worked so well.

00:37:23.000 But the way you made a doctor's appointment in 1965 is pretty much how you do it now.

00:37:28.000 You know, the way you exchange medical records, unfortunately, as a patient.

00:37:31.000 Now, doctors and hospitals have different systems, and there's lots of technology in medicine.

00:37:35.000 I'm a heart surgeon.

00:37:36.000 Heart surgery has changed dramatically since 1965.

00:37:40.000 But the actual core information transfer systems that patients use for most of the processes you outline have not been adjusted.

00:37:48.000 And they should have.

00:37:49.000 We don't stream Netflix videos or even watch content in any way similar to 60 years ago.

00:37:54.000 We use Airbnb.

00:37:56.000 We use Uber.

00:37:56.000 We have Uber Eats.

00:37:58.000 We have all kinds of things that have allowed us to make our lives more comfortable using information as an asset.

00:38:05.000 But information, as you know, can be sold as well.

00:38:07.000 And it's a profit center for some companies.

00:38:09.000 And so the health technology and specifically with your medical records, companies were holding on to them, arguing that that was data that they would be able to sell.

00:38:19.000 They could barter.

00:38:20.000 They could use it for powerful purposes, but not always in your best interest.

00:38:24.000 And even though there have been rulings and actually legislation in the first Trump administration forcing what's called interoperability, which means you have to share your data.

00:38:33.000 You can't block it with make-believe reasons.

00:38:36.000 There has to be transparency.

00:38:37.000 You need to know what the hospital bill is going to be before you sign up, because otherwise you get stuck in this death spiral where you end up with bankruptcy liens.

00:38:45.000 And that's what actually causes the number one bankruptcy cause in America is medical illness compounded with medical debt.

00:38:52.000 So these are all the things that unfortunately have held us back over the last five years.

00:38:56.000 That all changed yesterday.

00:38:58.000 No more waiting to find out what the doctor appointment is going to look like or when it's going to be available.

00:39:02.000 No more waiting around to see what the hospital bill is going to hold for you.

00:39:06.000 No more waiting to see what the drug's going to cost when you go to the pharmacy.

00:39:10.000 They're waiting to stop.

00:39:10.000 No more waiting for Washington, frankly, Ben.

00:39:12.000 It's about time that we actually have stepped up.

00:39:14.000 And it happened yesterday with the president's leadership, Secretary Kennedy full-throated endorsement as well, in part because we think this is how Maha will happen.

00:39:21.000 You'll get healthy again because we'll be able to give you information based on your medical records, if you wanted and only if you wanted, that will nudge you to do the right thing in your life.

00:39:30.000 So you asked me a specific question, what's changed?

00:39:32.000 The two things government must do is authenticate that you indeed, Ben Shapiro, want your medical records.

00:39:38.000 We cannot pretend that we know who you are when there are five other Ben Shapiros all over the country.

00:39:42.000 And so we have got that issue worked out.

00:39:44.000 We're working with the big companies.

00:39:46.000 You know, you go to the airport and you have clear, they know who you are.

00:39:49.000 There'll be ability to use your facial recognition or finger recognition.

00:39:52.000 These are all tools that are going to become available over the next year.

00:39:56.000 So government will do that.

00:39:57.000 The other thing government will do is what's called a provider directory, which means specifically, where does your doctor work?

00:40:02.000 Are they allowed to work there?

00:40:03.000 You know, what's going on with them?

00:40:05.000 Are they the right person to see you for whatever problem you have?

00:40:07.000 We have many versions of provider directories, but we don't have a national gold standard.

00:40:12.000 Those two things we have to do and we will pay for.

00:40:14.000 But then outside of that, the building blocks from that are quite large.

00:40:17.000 And it'll allow us to do all kinds of things that will benefit the American people.

00:40:22.000 And we should talk about those.

00:40:25.000 Yeah.

00:40:25.000 So let's talk about what exactly is going to benefit me.

00:40:28.000 I'm the patient.

00:40:29.000 Now, presumably, I check the box.

00:40:31.000 And what happens next?

00:40:32.000 What do I have access to that I didn't have access to before more easily?

00:40:36.000 Well, as an example, once you tell us that you want your information to be used for your benefit, companies that are making apps in the app store, Google Play, traditional consumer apps will be able to approach you and say, hey, Mr. Shapiro, we know you have a problem with your blood sugar.

00:40:51.000 And here's a bunch of tools that we think will benefit you.

00:40:55.000 And they're going to get paid if they're actually able to get your blood sugar down.

00:40:59.000 Now, that helps you live longer, avoid heart attacks, avoid dementia, all the complications of diabetes.

00:41:04.000 It helps the government, because I have to administer CMS.

00:41:08.000 Medicare and Medicaid are in big trouble.

00:41:10.000 I mean, Medicare Trust Fund will go bankrupt in seven years.

00:41:13.000 Medicaid expenses increased 50% in the last five years.

00:41:17.000 That's why it was so important to take the fraud, waste, and abuse out of it with the one big beautiful bill.

00:41:22.000 And so those programs benefit because if you're not diabetic, on average, you cost $7,000 less to whatever insurance company is covering you, including Medicare and Medicaid.

00:41:31.000 So that saves money for the American taxpayer.

00:41:33.000 But there's other benefits as well.

00:41:35.000 We'll be able to tell you, for example, that that food you're about to eat really isn't the wisest choice.

00:41:39.000 And you might not have known that.

00:41:40.000 You might have thought fruit first thing in the morning was a good idea, but it turns out that you're better off eating nuts first thing in the morning or a low sugar product, even though the sugar comes naturally in a fruit, which is normally good for you.

00:41:50.000 In your specific instance, it's not the best first choice.

00:41:53.000 Now, all that information accrues, but it gets fed to me, your doctor, because now I'll have information about you that can help me guide you better when you come to see me in the office.

00:42:01.000 And instead of me looking to decide, typing, I don't know, Ben, has it ever happened to you?

00:42:05.000 You're sitting with the doctor.

00:42:06.000 You're supposed to have this precious moment with the doctor.

00:42:08.000 The covenant between the doctor and patient is me looking you in the eyes.

00:42:12.000 And we agree we've got something that we got to do together and you trust me and I'm going to use that trust to help you.

00:42:17.000 Instead, this is a doctor.

00:42:18.000 Click, click, click, click, click, click.

00:42:19.000 And they're coding all these things to charge you more because they're paid based on how they code.

00:42:25.000 Instead of actually focusing on you, that's going to go away.

00:42:28.000 We're going to be able to gather information within the workflow of a doctor as he's taking care of you or she's managing your issues.

00:42:34.000 And that's going to allow us to figure out how sick you are, how much should we pay the doctor for that, and allow the doctor to focus on you.

00:42:41.000 And that's how we're going to deal with things like prior authorization, this heinous disliked problem.

00:42:47.000 As you know, there was, you know, there was blood in the streets over this horrible practice, but the practice does have benefits when it's done right.

00:42:54.000 So we've gotten all these companies together and asked them to, not ask them, told them that they need to figure out a solution to the prior authorization conundrum so patients and doctors aren't sitting around all day long trying to figure out if they're allowed to take care of an issue.

00:43:09.000 That happens better if you have medical technology that's digital, because this way, when an insurance company is asked about where I queried about whether Ben Shapiro is allowed to have this medication for his diabetes, guess what happens?

00:43:21.000 Boom, take a credit card.

00:43:23.000 They immediately can tell what's going on.

00:43:25.000 They know who you are.

00:43:25.000 They know who the doctor is.

00:43:26.000 They can immediately adjudicate it like a credit card and give you authority to move forward.

00:43:30.000 That's how the practice of medicine gets lubricated so it works better.

00:43:36.000 So the big objection to all of this, presumably, has been questions about privacy, the suggestion that now companies are going to have access to information they didn't have access to before, or they're going to use your information in ways that you don't particularly like.

00:43:48.000 How do you answer those concerns about patient privacy?

00:43:51.000 It's a top priority for us.

00:43:53.000 And we think about it and talk about it continually.

00:43:56.000 It turns out that people can hack your system and get your data pretty much anyway right now.

00:44:02.000 So hospitals are vulnerable.

00:44:04.000 We're vulnerable at CMS.

00:44:05.000 We're a $1.75 trillion agency.

00:44:07.000 It's twice the size of the Defense Department.

00:44:10.000 So guess what?

00:44:10.000 Makes you a big target for fraud.

00:44:13.000 And we just busted with the Department of Justice two weeks ago, this $15 billion multinational criminal organization that was taking the beneficiary numbers, the numbers that Medicare patients have, and using them to pierce our security systems.

00:44:29.000 Now, because we've got a great fraud war room, and because we're doing the kinds of innovation that I just discussed that the president launched yesterday at the White House, we have the ability to stop these scams down relatively quickly.

00:44:42.000 So of the $15 billion, 80% or so we were able to hold on to.

00:44:46.000 But once the money leaves the door, Ben, it goes overseas.

00:44:49.000 This one in particular seems to have a Russian link.

00:44:52.000 Once it's in Moscow, you're not getting that money back.

00:44:54.000 So the information we're talking about is going to be used to protect you as well.

00:44:58.000 By the way, you can opt out of the whole system.

00:45:00.000 You don't have to participate at all.

00:45:01.000 You can say, I don't care what you tell me.

00:45:03.000 I don't believe it.

00:45:04.000 I'm not going to be part of this.

00:45:05.000 And I'm not going to bother you.

00:45:06.000 And no one's going to come to you.

00:45:07.000 And no information is going to be exchanged on you.

00:45:09.000 We believe 90% of Americans will want information in the system to be used to help them if they're confident that it's secure.

00:45:17.000 The same way your information is secure.

00:45:19.000 And when you're going through an airport, for example, and use a clear test or one of the identification tools, it's going to be sort of the same way.

00:45:27.000 In fact, those same companies are getting involved in this process.

00:45:30.000 And we believe, and this is what happened yesterday, when you have the 60 top technology companies and health companies in the country, the biggest insurers, the biggest hospital systems, the biggest AI companies, they're all there.

00:45:43.000 And they're all saying the same thing, which is, we're going to be meek.

00:45:46.000 Now, what does meek mean?

00:45:47.000 And this has been the pleat of them the whole time since the first day I took this position.

00:45:52.000 Meek, as the Bible says, the meek shall inherit the earth.

00:45:55.000 If you don't know what the word meek means, you might think that means weak or some other understanding of the phrase.

00:46:01.000 To me, the word meek means you are a hard-nosed warrior.

00:46:05.000 You've got a sword, but you decide, you decide to sheath that sword and put it away so that you can work with others to fix a bigger problem that's plaguing your community.

00:46:15.000 That's what we're asking the medical technology community to do.

00:46:18.000 Put all the stuff away that you use to fight each other.

00:46:21.000 You'll be fighting in the future.

00:46:22.000 You'll have plenty of time to do battle.

00:46:24.000 But right now, we have a key infrastructure problem.

00:46:28.000 We're not able to talk to each other like every other sector of the U.S. economy does.

00:46:32.000 And if we can help healthcare technology be great again and make them great again, it'll have addressed a major crisis.

00:46:37.000 It'll also, Ben, it'll save us tens of billions of dollars of fraud, waste, and abuse.

00:46:42.000 We probably have $100 billion of administrative expenses that are unnecessary.

00:46:46.000 Let's pour that money into dealing with the vulnerable members of the population.

00:46:50.000 Then I'm coming to you broadcasting from the Healthy Human Services Building.

00:46:53.000 Secretary Kennedy is right above me.

00:46:55.000 Every time we walk into this building, we see a quote on the wall from Hubert Humphrey.

00:46:59.000 And it says, it is the moral obligation of government to take care of those at the dawn of life, our children, those at the twilight of life, our elderly, and those who are living in the shadows.

00:47:12.000 This is the Judeo-Christian tradition of respecting humanity and its preciousness and taking care of everybody, no matter where they are in their life journey.

00:47:20.000 To do that correctly, we have to focus on those populations, but we can't, for that reason, be throwing money at other issues or getting defrauded or losing money because we're inefficient and throwing it in the trash.

00:47:32.000 That incineration of the American taxpayer dollar is ending in this administration.

00:47:36.000 As you know, President Trump spoke beautifully yesterday, powerfully about how he needed industry to work together to deal with these issues.

00:47:43.000 The power to convene is something that he represents in a very bold way.

00:47:47.000 We have an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal making the same argument that the power to convene arguably is one of the greatest tools we have because without going through a long legislative process and Congress doesn't always want to move on some of these issues and the rules making process takes sometimes years.

00:48:03.000 You can get companies to, in a very nimble way, address the needs of the American people if they know where they're headed.

00:48:08.000 But the key goal here is to make sure that it's a vision, not a hallucination.

00:48:12.000 And you know it's a vision when other people can see it.

00:48:15.000 And Secretary Kennedy also spoke strongly about the fact that for Maha to live, to thrive, to grow, we have to be able to meet people wherever they are.

00:48:23.000 That's what technology has done in other sectors of the U.S. economy.

00:48:26.000 It needs to work for the American patient as well.

00:48:31.000 And to me, on a personal level, the biggest thing here is the ability for people to quickly access preventative solutions.

00:48:38.000 I mean, everybody who's spent any time looking at the healthcare situation in the United States knows that the number one lack is that people don't take these sort of preventative solutions that would stop the cost curve from building on them as they get older.

00:48:50.000 If you're worried about Alzheimer's, there's stuff you need to do when you're in your 30s in order to prevent you from getting Alzheimer's.

00:48:55.000 That's stuff like nutrition, that's stuff like the exercise, that stuff like taking, you know, going to see your doctor about issues when you're 30 that could affect you when you're 70 or 80.

00:49:04.000 And when you just wait until the last minute.

00:49:06.000 And that's one of the things that our healthcare system has really incentivized is because it's hard to get your records together, because it's difficult to kind of constantly monitor your own health.

00:49:15.000 You wait until the issue actually materializes and wrecks your life, as opposed to what you're suggesting now and what you're attempting to do.

00:49:23.000 If you make all this information more available to you, make it more transparent, and work with healthcare companies in order to ensure that you actually have options to do these things early.

00:49:31.000 You're going to make your quality of life better and longer.

00:49:34.000 Ben, you hit a point I want to highlight.

00:49:37.000 Maha is about exercise and eating and spiritual development and being able to sleep because you've made peace with the world around you.

00:49:45.000 All that's critical.

00:49:46.000 But you also have to engage the healthcare system when things aren't working right.

00:49:49.000 Sometimes they dealt a bad hand in the card game of life.

00:49:54.000 And if you've got a medical illness, you've got to deal with it.

00:49:56.000 Right now, we actually chase people away.

00:49:58.000 They're scared of the financial implications.

00:50:01.000 They don't know how to engage this system accurately.

00:50:03.000 We don't help.

00:50:04.000 So we want to, on your phone, within a year, meet you and show you stuff about yourself that you might not understand from your own medical records that we can help you with.

00:50:13.000 And if you want to take supplements or you want to engage in different types of dietary practices, all that's great.

00:50:19.000 We want to give you some advice on it.

00:50:20.000 Again, all that information will flow back to you only if you want it.

00:50:23.000 Security is a top priority, but it unlocks an opportunity to help Americans.

00:50:27.000 And here's why it's critical.

00:50:29.000 The U.S. health economy is growing 3% faster than the general economy.

00:50:34.000 That's unsustainable.

00:50:36.000 That means that we now spend more than twice as much as any other country on the planet, usually three times as much.

00:50:43.000 And despite that, Ben, life expectancy in this country has dropped since when we were young.

00:50:48.000 Now we used to be tied to Europe.

00:50:49.000 Now we're about five years behind Europe.

00:50:52.000 Number three cause of death in America, medical errors.

00:50:55.000 So we're spending a lot of money.

00:50:57.000 We're not getting our money's worth.

00:50:58.000 Where's the value?

00:50:59.000 Technology can help make us more efficient.

00:51:01.000 It can make the whole system flow with the information a little more elegantly.

00:51:06.000 And by using our biggest ally, which is the American people, because you want to be healthy.

00:51:11.000 It's the most narcissistic thing in your life is your own health.

00:51:13.000 Pay attention to it.

00:51:14.000 If we can make it cool to watch your health, this is what Secretary Kennedy was saying yesterday, then we can actually make Maha come alive in your home.

00:51:22.000 And maybe you might not be focused on those issues.

00:51:24.000 Other families around you might be, but you'll finally get the bug as you see information about yourself that's actionable.

00:51:30.000 And the Maha movement is primarily about mops worried about their families.

00:51:33.000 We've made it hard to be healthy in America.

00:51:35.000 Let's use technology to identify those issues.

00:51:38.000 If there's mold in your house, if you're living in an area where there are toxins and there's a lot more illness or allergies than normally you would expect, we should inform you about that.

00:51:46.000 But likewise, if you happen to have some autoimmune problem that's undiagnosed and we can use AI to start looking at the things that you're doing and help you figure that out, or frankly, just talk to you.

00:51:55.000 Ben, you know what the number one cause of increased health bills in Medicare is?

00:51:59.000 Being Lonely when there's no one around you, you have no one to crutch on, then you get scared.

00:52:04.000 Your first resort is to call the ER or an ambulance.

00:52:07.000 You know, that's the kind of adjustment we can make.

00:52:11.000 I yesterday was, you know, was able to see some avatars based on AI evaluation of your medical records.

00:52:17.000 I mean, it's as good as a doctor.

00:52:18.000 Now, you need a doctor as well to help you deal with the emotional elements and triage to make sure it's accurate.

00:52:25.000 But the conversation that I was having with these avatars, it's like you're talking to a doctor.

00:52:29.000 And so if I can combine that information gathering exercise that a doctor needs to do first with an actual real doctor or nurse who can help you deal with the consequences of it, that actually saves a lot of time and money and allows our medical community to extress itself a bit more.

00:52:44.000 Because in many parts of the country, we don't have enough doctors or nurses.

00:52:47.000 That's what the one big beautiful bill is seeking to address with the $50 billion investment in the Rural Health Transformation Fund.

00:52:54.000 That's an effort to give us the ability to get into local communities and help them get healthy again.

00:52:59.000 In rural America, life expectancy is four years shorter than the rest of the country.

00:53:03.000 So we really have a massive shift that needs to happen in the country.

00:53:07.000 And the president's pledged that, and we're going to make it come true.

00:53:11.000 Well, that's Dr. Oz.

00:53:12.000 He is the 17th administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

00:53:16.000 Dr. Oz, thanks so much for your hard work on this and thanks for the time.

00:53:19.000 God bless you.

00:53:21.000 Meanwhile, controversy has broken out over a proposal from Senator Josh Howley to push forward a stock trading ban.

00:53:29.000 And honestly, I'm a little bit confused by the objections.

00:53:32.000 So there's already a bill in place called the Stock Act.

00:53:37.000 This is a bill that was originally called the Pelosi Act as a way of targeting Nancy Pelosi, who's gotten extraordinarily rich off of stock trading while she's been in Congress.

00:53:45.000 To be fair, she was already rich before she went into Congress.

00:53:48.000 Her husband is very wealthy and all the rest.

00:53:49.000 But the Pelosi Act was retitled the Honest Act.

00:53:54.000 What's the difference between the two acts?

00:53:55.000 Well, I asked our sponsors over at Perplexity this question.

00:53:58.000 The STOP Act prohibits members of Congress, congressional staff, and federal officials from using non-public information gained through official positions for personal financial benefit, including insider trading.

00:54:08.000 Major features include reinforcing that existing insider trading laws apply to members of Congress and all federal officials and requiring prompt public disclosure of many financial transactions like stock trades rather than just annual reporting.

00:54:20.000 The problem with the Stock Act is that the actual fines are basically de minimis, sometimes $200 per violation.

00:54:27.000 No sitting lawmaker has been prosecuted under the Stock Act.

00:54:30.000 So the Honest Act is supposed to go further.

00:54:33.000 It bans stock trading entirely for all members of Congress and their spouses while in office.

00:54:38.000 It broadens the trading ban to include the president and the vice president, not just members of Congress.

00:54:42.000 President Trump was upset with this because, of course, he has large-scale stock holdings.

00:54:47.000 This would not apply to the current president and vice president.

00:54:49.000 It would only kick in, I believe, in the next term.

00:54:52.000 Aims to close loopholes around direct trades and addresses enforcement shortcomings that have limited the Stock Act effectiveness.

00:55:00.000 Now, there have been objections from the Trump administration and from some Republicans who say basically this is also going to be unenforceable.

00:55:06.000 That what you're essentially saying is that you can't own stock at all.

00:55:09.000 If you're a member of Congress, that you have to divest your stock.

00:55:12.000 Now, the Honest Act does allow you to put your stock presumably into a blind trust.

00:55:16.000 So you can take your money, put it in a trust, appoint the trustee, and then the trustee has control over the stock trading, and that creates sort of a firewall between you and your stockholdings.

00:55:26.000 Critics will say that this means that if you're a member of Congress, well, now you are disincentivizing anybody who has large-scale stock holdings and is active in markets from being in Congress.

00:55:36.000 Honestly, I think that Howley's argument is not a bad one, which is that you don't want people rigging the system on their own behalf in favor of their stock trading using inside information.

00:55:46.000 Now, this libertarian perspective on this would be that insider information as a general ban is actually kind of foolish because when people trade on insider information, actually, it means that insider information becomes public faster than if they didn't trade on it because you just follow their trades, just follow Nancy Pelosi's trades, mirror what she's doing, and now you have access to the same insider information she does.

00:56:07.000 And honestly, maybe that would be a better policy.

00:56:09.000 Maybe the better policy would be immediate revelation of all stock trades by members of Congress and not a 30 to 45 day disclosure, like in real time.

00:56:17.000 We have the tech to do that now.

00:56:19.000 And that way, if you would just want to follow their trades, then you can follow their trades and you can see exactly what they're doing.

00:56:24.000 If that were possible, that seems like that might be a good solution.

00:56:27.000 In any case, President Trump was upset about this.

00:56:30.000 He went after Josh Howey, suggesting that he is a second-rate senator.

00:56:36.000 Senator Bernie Moreno of Ohio called the effort a publicity show.

00:56:40.000 Senator Moreno noted he'd co-sponsored the original Pelosi Act.

00:56:43.000 He said it's important for us to restore faith in our institutions, but to just put a vote out there when we have literally no idea what we're voting for is gross incompetence.

00:56:50.000 It's the most absurd process I've ever seen.

00:56:53.000 And again, one of the critiques here is that the bill is not fully drawn up, that basically it was dumped out there with very little notice and that people don't even know what's in it.

00:57:05.000 And so that is always a fair critique, and it happens often in Congress that nobody had a chance to actually look at the bill.

00:57:10.000 But the generalized perspective, which is that members of Congress should not be trading on the information that they are in control of.

00:57:15.000 If you're in control of the rules, you should not be trading on behalf of that.

00:57:18.000 That seems like not a particularly bad idea, obviously.

00:57:21.000 Josh Halley, the senator from Missouri, says this is a tough bill.

00:57:25.000 Senator Scott made really clear he's opposed to this bill and he was attempting to kill the bill.

00:57:29.000 That would have taken, it would have gutted all the bill, taken all of its key provisions out.

00:57:32.000 We would have been left with just some study.

00:57:34.000 And frankly, I think we're beyond time for studying.

00:57:37.000 I think we know what the problem is.

00:57:38.000 The problem is members of Congress who are getting rich off of information the public doesn't have.

00:57:43.000 We decided to ban that.

00:57:43.000 And that's what this does.

00:57:44.000 This is a tough bill.

00:57:45.000 I mean, we've heard my colleagues complaining about it.

00:57:47.000 It's a tough, tough bill.

00:57:49.000 Okay.

00:57:50.000 So again, I'll be interested to see more of the details of the bill as we learn more.

00:57:54.000 But obviously, in concept, I certainly have no objection to the bill itself.

00:57:58.000 President Trump, I think, in concept doesn't even have objection to the bill.

00:58:01.000 He may quibble with some of the details.

00:58:03.000 But for example, it is Donald Trump who's been criticizing Nancy Pelosi for years over her alleged insider trading.

00:58:10.000 Nancy Pelosi became rich by having inside information.

00:58:15.000 She made a fortune with her husband.

00:58:17.000 And I think that's disgraceful.

00:58:20.000 So in that sense, I'd like it, but I'd have to really see the, I'd have, you know, I study these things very carefully and this just happened.

00:58:26.000 So I'll take a look at it.

00:58:28.000 But conceptually, I like it.

00:58:30.000 And what I do think is Nancy Pelosi should be investigated because what she has the highest return of anybody practically in the history of Wall Street, save a few.

00:58:43.000 And how did that happen?

00:58:45.000 It happened by she knows exactly what's going to happen, what's going to be announced.

00:58:48.000 She buys stock and then the stock goes up after the announcement's made.

00:58:54.000 Okay, so, again, he is not wrong about that.

00:58:57.000 Nancy Pelosi was asked about her history of alleged insider trading by Jake Tapper over on CNN, and she got pissed.

00:59:04.000 Nancy Pelosi became rich.

00:59:05.000 I might have to read that.

00:59:06.000 We're here to talk about the 60th anniversary of Medicaid.

00:59:10.000 That's what I agreed to come to talk to.

00:59:13.000 That means in the election.

00:59:14.000 I wanted to give you a chance just to respond.

00:59:16.000 He accused you of insider trading.

00:59:17.000 What's your response to that?

00:59:20.000 That's ridiculous.

00:59:21.000 In fact, I very much support the stop, the trading of members of Congress.

00:59:26.000 Not that I think anybody's doing anything wrong.

00:59:28.000 If they are, they are prosecuted and they go to jail.

00:59:32.000 But because of the confidence it instills in the American people, don't worry about this.

00:59:39.000 But I have no concern about the obvious investments that had been made over time.

00:59:46.000 I'm not into it.

00:59:47.000 My husband is, but it isn't anything to do with anything insider.

00:59:54.000 That's awkward.

00:59:56.000 It's pretty awkward.

00:59:57.000 And that is the reason why there's been so much ire over this issue.

01:00:00.000 Some clarification from Senator Holly would be good.

01:00:03.000 I assume many Republicans will end up jumping on board if this moves forward.

01:00:08.000 And again, I don't think President Trump has objections.

01:00:10.000 I mean, he has said he doesn't have objections in principle to a bill along these lines.

01:00:15.000 He's very rich.

01:00:15.000 He doesn't need to be using insider information.

01:00:18.000 And I assume that he is not, in fact, using insider information unless proven otherwise, right?

01:00:24.000 That would sort of be the way this goes.

01:00:25.000 Okay.

01:00:25.000 Meanwhile, speaking of insider information, apparently the director of the FBI, Cash Patel, announced yesterday that there are thousands of sensitive Trump-Russia probe documents inside burn bags in a secret room at the FBI, which is kind of shocking.

01:00:41.000 According to Fox News Digital, sources say that the burn bag system is used to destroy documents designated as classified or higher.

01:00:49.000 Sources told Fox News Digital multiple burn bags were found and filled with thousands of documents.

01:00:55.000 And apparently one of the documents FBI officials found in that burn bag was the classified annex to former special counsel John Durham's final report, which includes the underlying intelligence he reviewed.

01:01:04.000 The declassification of that classified annex is now being done in coordination between the CIA Director John Radcliffe, Cash Patel, DNI Tulsi Gabbard, A.G. Pambondi, and acting NSA Director William Hartman.

01:01:15.000 And it will be transmitted over to the Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, who will then release the document to the public.

01:01:23.000 Sources exclusively briefed on the contents, including that the U.S. intelligence community had credible foreign sources indicating the FBI would play a role in spreading the alleged Trump-Russia collusion narrative before the Bureau ever launched its controversial crossfire hurricane probe.

01:01:39.000 So that is all alarming.

01:01:42.000 Presumably, as those details emerge, we will cover them.

01:01:45.000 But again, RussiaGate is a very real scandal.

01:01:47.000 And the fact is that there were people in the intelligence community who were pushing absolutely manufactured narratives originally stemming from the Hillary Clinton campaign.

01:01:56.000 You wonder why Trust in Institutions is gone?

01:01:58.000 Well, that would be the reason.

01:02:00.000 All righty, folks, as we continue, we're going to be jumping into the vaunted Ben Shapiro show mailbag.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - July 31, 2025

The Biden Health Coverup Is FALLING APART

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