The Ben Shapiro Show - The Case For Derek Chauvin | Episode 2: The Incident

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00:00:09.000 What if everything you were told about the trial of Derek Chauvin was a lie?

00:00:14.000 Today we're examining the terrible miscarriage of justice that took place in the case of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin.

00:00:20.000 This is a comprehensive multi-episode breakdown of the case.

00:00:23.000 All the facts, all the evidence, all the political context.

00:00:25.000 We're tearing this case apart piece by piece by the end.

00:00:28.000 I think you'll agree with me that President Trump should immediately pardon Derek Chauvin for his federal convictions.

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00:00:46.000 This is The Case for Derek Chauvin.

00:00:48.000 Episode 2, The Incident.

00:00:54.000 So, folks, yesterday, Press Secretary Caroline Levitt explicitly said that President Trump is not considering a pardon for Derek Chauvin at this time, which, of course, is perfectly fine and frankly expected at this stage.

00:01:05.000 The clear pattern we've seen time and again is the grassroots movement build momentum first.

00:01:10.000 Concerned citizens speak out consistently.

00:01:12.000 Eventually, those voices permeate the administration's awareness and influence what makes it onto the president's agenda.

00:01:18.000 That's precisely what happened with the January 6th defendants and others who received pardons or commutations.

00:01:22.000 The administration initially distanced itself from those cases too, but then public pressure mounted.

00:01:27.000 This statement from Caroline Levitt isn't a reason to stop educating yourself on the issue or to remain silent if you believe a terrible injustice has occurred.

00:01:34.000 In fact, it is even a better reason for citizens to familiarize themselves with the facts, analyze the case objectively, and speak out if they believe our justice system has failed.

00:01:42.000 Now, let's dive into the incident.

00:01:45.000 Memorial Day 2020.

00:01:46.000 The country was nearly three months into the COVID-19 lockdowns.

00:01:49.000 Businesses were closed.

00:01:51.000 Millions were unemployed.

00:01:52.000 People were increasingly frustrated with government-imposed restrictions on their daily lives.

00:01:56.000 Minneapolis, like many urban centers across America, was experiencing this pressure cooker environment, along with pre-existing tensions between law enforcement and minority communities.

00:02:05.000 Minneapolis had been a laboratory for progressive criminal justice policies.

00:02:08.000 Racial tensions had been mounting for years.

00:02:11.000 Following the 2014 shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, and the subsequent Hands Up, Don't Shoot narrative, the Black Lives Matter movement had gained significant influence over police policy nationwide.

00:02:20.000 Minneapolis was at the forefront of implementing reforms that restricted officers' ability to effectively police high-crime areas.

00:02:27.000 To understand the full context, we actually need to go back to the 1990s when critical race theory began to migrate from the academic fringes into mainstream discourse.

00:02:34.000 Scholars like Derrick Bell and Kimberly Crenshaw pushed the idea that America is fundamentally racist at its core, that our entire system is designed to oppress minorities, that concepts like colorblindness, equal opportunity, meritocracy are themselves racist constructs.

00:02:48.000 This ideology, once confined to university grievance studies departments, increasingly began to influence Democratic Party politics and policy, particularly during Barack Obama's second term.

00:02:57.000 Barack Obama had initially presented himself as a post-racial candidate.

00:03:01.000 His 2008 A More Perfect Union speech promised a transcendence of racial division.

00:03:05.000 I chose to run for president at this moment in history because I believe deeply that we cannot solve the challenges of our time unless we solve them together.

00:03:17.000 Unless we perfect our union by understanding that we may have different stories, but we hold common hopes.

00:03:24.000 That we may not look the same and may not have come from the same place, but we all want to move in the same direction towards a better future.

00:03:34.000 But by his second term, his administration had embraced much more racially divisive rhetoric and policy.

00:03:39.000 The Department of Justice under Eric Holder and later Loretta Lynch pushed a narrative of systemic police racism, despite comprehensive studies contradicting this narrative.

00:03:47.000 Harvard economist Roland Fryer, who happens to be black, conducted the most extensive empirical analysis of racial differences in police use of force and found no statistical connection linking police brutality and racism.

00:03:58.000 As he stated in his findings, when it comes to the most extreme use of force officer-involved shootings, quote, we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account.

00:04:08.000 Fryer ultimately faced professional repercussions for publishing those findings, showing just how ideologically entrenched the narrative had become.

00:04:15.000 Minneapolis specifically.

00:04:16.000 Became a hotbed of far-left politics.

00:04:19.000 Keith Ellison, a progressive Democrat with past ties to radical organizations, had been elected as Minnesota's Attorney General in 2018.

00:04:25.000 The city council was dominated by progressives who had campaigned on transforming policing.

00:04:30.000 Mayor Jacob Fry was a progressive Democrat who had positioned himself as a champion of police reform.

00:04:35.000 Into this politically charged environment came a concerted effort by progressive billionaire George Soros and organizations like Color of Change.

00:04:42.000 to install progressive district attorneys nationwide through initiatives like Winning Justice, the Prosecutor Project.

00:04:47.000 A quick search on Open Secrets shows that Soros had donated $1 million to Color of Change, as well as another $12 million to the campaigns of progressive DAs like George Gaskin, Larry Krasner, and Alvin Bragg, according to a report from the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund.

00:05:01.000 These progressive prosecutors openly advocated for reduced incarceration and more lenient treatment of criminals.

00:05:07.000 They created a perception among officers that proper enforcement of the law would not be supported by city leadership.

00:05:12.000 This toxic political climate directly impacted police morale and effectiveness.

00:05:16.000 Officers increasingly found themselves caught in an impossible situation, tasked with maintaining public safety while being told that traditional policing methods were inherently racist.

00:05:24.000 The so-called Ferguson effect was taking hold, a phenomenon where police withdraw from proactive enforcement due to fear of public criticism, all of which resulted in increased crime rates.

00:05:34.000 And as I mentioned earlier, let's not forget the unprecedented context of the COVID-19 lockdowns that served as the backdrop to this entire situation.

00:05:41.000 By May 25th, 2020, Americans had been subjected to nearly three months of draconian restrictions.

00:05:46.000 Businesses were shuttered, unemployment was skyrocketing, citizens were effectively imprisoned in their homes by government mandate.

00:05:51.000 The psychological and economic strain on Americans was immense.

00:05:55.000 People couldn't work, they couldn't socialize, they couldn't go to church.

00:05:58.000 Basic freedoms were suspended indefinitely, with constantly shifting justifications from health authorities.

00:06:02.000 All of which created a pressure cooker of social tension waiting to explode.

00:06:07.000 The lockdowns had particularly devastating effects on low-income communities where people couldn't simply work from home on their laptops.

00:06:12.000 Jobs were lost, savings were depleted, futures were uncertain.

00:06:15.000 The media stoked fears about the virus while simultaneously downplaying the devastating consequences of lockdown itself.

00:06:21.000 It was in this powder keg environment, with people frustrated, economically stressed, socially isolated, already primed to see everything through a racial lens after years of media conditioning, that the incomplete video of Floyd's arrest went viral.

00:06:32.000 On the evening of the arrest, Eric Chauvin was working as a field training officer in the Minneapolis Police Department's 3rd Precinct.

00:06:38.000 He was partnered with Officer Tao Tao, patrolling one of the higher crime areas of Minneapolis.

00:06:43.000 Meanwhile, George Floyd spent part of his day with friends.

00:06:45.000 At approximately 8 p.m., Floyd walked into the Cup Foods grocery store at the intersection of 38th Street and Chicago Avenue in Minneapolis' Powderhorn Park neighborhood.

00:06:54.000 Surveillance footage from inside the store shows Floyd moving around.

00:06:59.000 According to Christopher Martin, the 19-year-old cashier who testified at Chauvin's trial, Floyd appeared to be high, but was very friendly, approachable, and talkative.

00:07:07.000 Floyd purchased cigarettes with a $20 bill that Martin believed to be counterfeit because of its blue color and texture.

00:07:12.000 After Floyd left the store, Martin and other employees at their manager's direction went outside to ask Floyd to return to address the issue of the potentially counterfeit bill.

00:07:19.000 When Floyd refused, the manager instructed an employee to call the police.

00:07:22.000 This single phone call set in motion in the chain of events that would end with Floyd's death approximately one hour later.

00:07:27.000 At 8.08 p.m., officers J. Alexander Kung and Thomas Lane arrived on the scene, responding to a call about a man who'd allegedly used a counterfeit $20 bill.

00:07:35.000 They briefly entered Cup Foods before crossing the streets of Floyd's SUV, which was parked in front of a restaurant called Dragon Walk.

00:07:42.000 Floyd was in the car, along with his alleged drug dealer, Maurice Hall.

00:07:45.000 Hall would later invoke his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination during the trial.

00:07:49.000 The body cam footage from Officer Lane.

00:07:51.000 Shows him approaching the driver's side of Floyd's vehicle while Officer Kung approached the passenger side.

00:07:56.000 Lane tapped his flashlight on Floyd's window, startling Floyd inside.

00:07:59.000 When Lane instructed Floyd to show his hands and Floyd did not immediately comply, Lane drew his weapon and pointed it at Floyd.

00:08:04.000 When Floyd placed his hands on the steering wheel, Lane holstered his gun.

00:08:11.000 That initial interaction is critically important to understand.

00:08:13.000 Within seconds of approaching Floyd's vehicle, an officer had drawn his weapon because Floyd had immediately failed to comply with command.

00:08:19.000 That escalation set the tone for the entire encounter.

00:08:22.000 Lane ordered Floyd out of the vehicle.

00:08:23.000 Floyd apologized repeatedly while explaining that he had been shot before.

00:08:27.000 After Lane ordered Floyd to step out and face away, Floyd remained in the car for about 13 seconds.

00:08:32.000 So Lane used both hands to grab Floyd's left hand and right arm and partly pulled Floyd out of the car.

00:08:37.000 Lane continued pulling Floyd from the vehicle and handcuffed him.

00:08:40.000 The body camera footage shows Floyd did not physically resist being pulled out in handcuffs, though he did appear distressed.

00:08:45.000 At 8.12 p.m., Lane sat Floyd on the sidewalk against the wall in front of the restaurant and began to question him.

00:08:50.000 Floyd explained that he wasn't on something right now when Lane asked, although he appeared agitated.

00:08:55.000 Kung mentioned to Floyd that he was acting real erratic, to which Floyd responded that he was scared.

00:08:59.000 When questioned about the foam around his mouth, Floyd said he had been hooping earlier, a slang term that could refer to playing basketball, or in some context, apparently using drugs rectally.

00:09:12.000 At 8.13 p.m., Kung and Lane informed Floyd that he was under arrest for passing counterfeit currency and walked him across the street to their police vehicle.

00:09:19.000 This is where the situation began to escalate significantly.

00:09:22.000 As the body cam footage shows, Floyd told the officers repeatedly he was not resisting, but that he was claustrophobic and anxious about getting into the backseat of the police car.

00:09:30.000 Take a seat.

00:09:31.000 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

00:09:33.000 Why are you having trouble walking?

00:09:34.000 Be careful, be careful.

00:09:35.000 My hands are the worst.

00:09:36.000 We won't leave, man.

00:09:38.000 Take a seat.

00:09:39.000 Take a seat.

00:09:42.000 Grab a seat.

00:09:43.000 I'm not the kind of guy.

00:09:46.000 I'm not that kind of guy, man.

00:09:47.000 Take a seat.

00:09:48.000 I'm a die here.

00:09:50.000 Take a seat.

00:09:51.000 I'm a die, man.

00:09:51.000 You need to take a seat right now.

00:09:52.000 And I just had COVID, man.

00:09:54.000 I don't want to go back to that.

00:09:55.000 Take a seat.

00:09:55.000 Hey, I'll roll the windows down.

00:09:56.000 Hey, listen.

00:09:57.000 Dang, man.

00:09:58.000 Listen. I'm not that kind of guy.

00:10:00.000 I'll roll the windows down as you put your legs in, all right? 0.98

00:10:02.000 I'll put the air on.

00:10:03.000 Look at that.

00:10:04.000 Look at that.

00:10:04.000 You're not even listening.

00:10:05.000 Look at it.

00:10:05.000 We can fix it, but not while you're standing out.

00:10:07.000 Hey, man.

00:10:08.000 God, that'll do me bad, man.

00:10:10.000 man. I don't want to try to win.

00:10:13.000 I don't want to win.

00:10:16.000 I'm trying to fool me.

00:10:17.000 I'm trying to fool me.

00:10:19.000 I got anxiety.

00:10:19.000 I don't want to do nothing to me.

00:10:22.000 Man, I'm The footage shows Floyd becoming increasingly distressed as the officers attempted to place him in the vehicle.

00:10:28.000 He told them multiple times, I can't breathe.

00:10:31.000 Well before he was on the ground.

00:10:33.000 That critical fact has been largely overlooked in public discussions of the case.

00:10:37.000 Floyd was claiming breathing problems while he was still standing before any significant restraint was applied, suggesting that any breathing issues may have been related to his anxiety, his medical conditions, and or the drugs in his system.

00:10:48.000 you At 8.17 p.m., officers Derek Chauvin and Tao Tao arrived on the scene in a third police car.

00:10:56.000 This is key, because Chauvin was not involved in the initial interaction with Floyd.

00:11:00.000 He arrived after Floyd was already handcuffed and refusing to get into the police vehicle.

00:11:04.000 When Chauvin arrived, he asked if Floyd was going to jail, and Kung replied that Floyd had been arrested for forgery.

00:11:12.000 At 8.18pm, body cam footage and security video from Cup Foods shows Kung struggling with Floyd for at least a minute in the driver's side backseat of the police vehicle.

00:11:21.000 Faust stood watching as this occurred.

00:11:22.000 At 8.19pm, Chauvin pulled Floyd across the backseat from the driver's side to the passenger's side as Floyd is heard asking to lay on the ground.

00:11:30.000 Floyd then exited the vehicle while being pulled out by police.

00:11:33.000 Again, Floyd asked to be withdrawn from the vehicle.

00:11:36.000 What happened next has been viewed by millions around the world.

00:11:39.000 At approximately 8.20 p.m., Chauvin placed Floyd in the ground in a prone position.

00:11:43.000 Kung applied pressure to Floyd's torso.

00:11:45.000 Lane applied pressure to Floyd's legs.

00:11:46.000 Thao stood nearby, managing the growing crowd of bystanders.

00:11:49.000 Multiple witnesses began recording videos of the incident from different angles.

00:11:52.000 The footage shows Floyd repeatedly saying, I can't breathe, please, and mama.

00:11:59.000 What the mainstream media deliberately omits from their coverage is that Chauvin was using a departmentally approved restraint technique that was explicitly taught to Minneapolis police officers.

00:12:08.000 Court documents filed in the state of Minnesota v.

00:12:10.000 Derek Chauvin show the Minneapolis Police Department's official training materials, which specifically instructed officers on the neck restraint as a non-deadly force option.

00:12:19.000 These training materials explicitly define this technique as compressing one or both sides of a person's neck with an arm or leg without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway, front of the neck.

00:12:29.000 When you actually watch that complete unedited body cam footage, which, by the way, the legacy media rarely showed you in their entirety, what becomes clear is that for portions of the nine minutes and 29 seconds, Chauvin's knee is on Floyd's shoulder blade or upper back.

00:12:45.000 The autopsy report from Hennepin County Medical Examiner Dr. Andrew Baker explicitly states there was, quote, no life-threatening injuries identified, no bruising on the neck, no damage to the trachea, no evidence of asphyxiation.

00:12:57.000 We also know from officers laying in Kung's body cam footage that Floyd was saying, I can't breathe at least six times while still upright in the police vehicle before any restraint was applied.

00:13:07.000 The video further shows Floyd exhibiting what the American College of Emergency Physicians documented in their 2009 white paper as excited delirium syndrome, characterized by strange behavior, dilated pupils, superhuman strength, imperviousness to pain, and hyperthermia, a condition explicitly taught to Minneapolis officers as part of their use of force training.

00:13:25.000 At approximately 8.22pm, the officers called for an ambulance on a non-emergency basis, upgrading the call to emergency status one minute later.

00:13:32.000 At approximately 8.25pm, Floyd appeared to lose consciousness.

00:13:36.000 Bystanders can be heard in the videos urging the officers to check his pulse.

00:13:39.000 Officer Kung checked Floyd's wrist but reported he couldn't find one.

00:13:45.000 According to Dr. Martin Tobin's testimony, that's the prosecution's star witness, there were approximately 50 seconds between Floyd's last words and the moment he died.

00:13:52.000 The prosecution wanted the jury to believe that these 50 seconds represent the smoking gun of Chauvin's alleged murderous intent, that any reasonable officer would have immediately recognized that Floyd was in distress and removed his knee.

00:14:03.000 The body cam footage tells a completely different story.

00:14:06.000 At precisely 8.25 p.m. and 20 seconds, just as Floyd loses consciousness, Chauvin's attention is suddenly drawn away from Floyd to a hostile crowd member wearing a boxing hoodie who aggressively threatens him, shouting, I'm not scared of you, bro.

00:14:18.000 You're a f***ing ass dude, bro.

00:14:20.000 These aren't the words of a concerned bystander.

00:14:22.000 These are the words of someone potentially preparing to attack officers.

00:14:25.000 Jovan immediately responds, don't come over here, don't come over here.

00:14:28.000 Stop and he's breathing right now.

00:14:30.000 You fucking go out now, bro.

00:14:32.000 Okay. Bro.

00:14:34.000 Okay. You just gonna choke him like that? 0.99

00:14:38.000 No, that's what you wanna do.

00:14:40.000 I'm not scared of you, bro.

00:14:42.000 You're a fucking ass dude. 0.97

00:14:44.000 What? Get off the air.

00:14:47.000 I'm a firefighter from Minneapolis.

00:14:49.000 Bro, look, you should check on him.

00:14:50.000 He's not responsive right now.

00:14:53.000 This critical moment is captured clearly on both Officer Thao's and Officer Lane's body cams, but was conveniently downplayed during the trial, which we'll get to in Episode 4. Here's what's absolutely critical.

00:15:03.000 MPD officers were explicitly trained they could maintain a prone position with the body weight until the scene is a code 4, meaning until everything is under control and the scene is safe.

00:15:13.000 The prosecution's own witness, Lieutenant Johnny Mersel, confirmed this under oath.

00:15:17.000 What's particularly telling?

00:15:18.000 is that when paramedics arrived two minutes later, even they did not consider the scene code 4 due to the increasingly hostile crowd.

00:15:25.000 That's why they performed what's called a load-and-go, quickly loading Floyd into the ambulance and immediately moving to a safer location before attempting treatment.

00:15:32.000 Again, they did not attempt treatment on the ground because they did not deem the situation safe.

00:15:37.000 The entire prosecution narrative collapses under this evidence.

00:15:40.000 They need you to believe Chauvin acted with conscious indifference to loss of life while performing an act that was highly likely to cause death.

00:15:46.000 But the evidence shows an officer following his training while simultaneously dealing with a potentially violent crowd during those final 50 seconds.

00:15:52.000 That is not murder.

00:15:53.000 That is clearly, clearly reasonable doubt.

00:15:56.000 Floyd was loaded into the ambulance unresponsive.

00:15:58.000 Officer Lane actually joined the paramedics in the ambulance and assisted with CPR efforts.

00:16:02.000 This fact has received very little attention in media coverage, but it's important to note that one of the officers on scene did attempt to help with resuscitation efforts.

00:16:09.000 Unfortunately, those efforts were unsuccessful.

00:16:12.000 George Floyd was pronounced dead at Hennepin County Medical Center at 925 p.m.

00:16:16.000 Within 24 hours of the incident, before any thorough investigation could be completed, all four officers involved were fired from the Minneapolis Police Department.

00:16:23.000 On May 26th, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry publicly stated, quote, being black in America should not be a death sentence, effectively prejudging the case.

00:16:31.000 The following day, Mayor Fry explicitly called for criminal charges, asking, why is the man who killed George Floyd not in jail?

00:16:37.000 On May 29th, Derek Chauvin was arrested and charged with third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.

00:16:41.000 Later, those charges would be upgraded to include second-degree unintentional murder.

00:16:46.000 Viewing these videos, we need to ask ourselves, does this constitute murder?

00:16:49.000 The prosecution argued, and the jury ultimately agreed, that Chauvin's actions directly caused Floyd's death and that his use of force was excessive and unreasonable.

00:16:57.000 However, there are several problems with this conclusion.

00:16:59.000 First, as we'll discuss in our next episode, the autopsy findings revealed that Floyd had a potentially lethal level of fentanyl in his system, along with methamphetamine, had significant heart disease as well that put him at risk for sudden cardiac death.

00:17:11.000 Second, Chauvin was using a restraint technique that was part of his departmental training.

00:17:15.000 Third, the body cam footage shows none of the officers on scene believed they were witnessing a murder.

00:17:20.000 Lane's assistance with CPR efforts indicates that the officers were not acting with malicious intent.

00:17:24.000 What we are left with is a tragic situation where an officer used a department-approved restraint technique on a resistant suspect who is experiencing a medical emergency related to drug intoxication and pre-existing health conditions.

00:17:35.000 Then, on May 31, 2020, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz announced that Attorney General Keith Ellison would lead the prosecution of Floyd's death.

00:17:42.000 Taking the case away from the Hennepin County District Attorney's Office.

00:17:45.000 This was a purely political decision designed to ensure conviction regardless of the evidence.

00:17:50.000 The media abans in any pretense of objectivity.

00:17:53.000 They repeatedly showed the edited bystander video while ignoring body camera footage that provided crucial context.

00:17:58.000 They highlighted Floyd saying, I can't breathe while on the ground, while failing to mention he was saying this before Chauvin ever restrained him.

00:18:05.000 They portrayed the knee on the neck as the obvious cause of death while ignoring the medical examiner's findings about Floyd's heart condition and drug use.

00:18:11.000 Coleman Hughes, a writer and commentator who also happens to be black, analyzed the case in depth and concluded the media narrative was fundamentally flawed.

00:18:19.000 As he noted in his piece what really happened to George Floyd, Chauvin did not improvise the restraint position.

00:18:24.000 He was utilizing the maximum restraint technique, again, part of the MPD training manual.

00:18:28.000 But the photo on the training slide demonstrating this technique was redacted at trial.

00:18:32.000 In the documentary, The Fall of Minneapolis, six current and former MPD police officers affirm the MRT was indeed standard training, training they themselves had received.

00:18:41.000 When asked if he was trained on MRT, Rich Walker, an African-American MPD sergeant with 19 years on the force, replied, Yes, all the police officers were trained in MRT.

00:18:49.000 Politicians, celebrities, corporations all rushed to signal their virtue.

00:18:52.000 Companies pledged millions to Black Lives Matter organizations.

00:18:55.000 Sports teams knelt during the national anthem.

00:18:57.000 Social media profiles posted little black squares.

00:19:00.000 Anyone who dared to suggest we should wait for the legal process to unfold was immediately branded a racist.

00:19:05.000 As Hughes noted in a subsequent piece on Derek Chauvin, George Floyd, and Reasonable Doubt, there are two different theories of what caused Floyd's death.

00:19:11.000 The positional asphyxia theory, put forth by medical examiner Dr. Michael Bodden, hired by Floyd's family, and the adrenaline surge theory, a term coined by Hughes and presented by the county medical examiner Dr. Baker.

00:19:21.000 As Hughes correctly points out, as a juror, if you have two reasonable explanations for cause of death, one of which implicates the defendant and one of which does not, you are supposed to acquit.

00:19:29.000 But that's not what happened.

00:19:31.000 In our next episode, we'll examine the autopsy findings in detail and explore how the prosecution's narrative required jurors to disregard key medical evidence.

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00:20:59.000 Meanwhile, the big news of the day was that President Trump released the JFK files.

00:21:03.000 And oh my goodness, the secrets that were buried within so many nothing burgers.

00:21:09.000 Just gigantic piles of nothing burgers everywhere.

00:21:13.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, the Trump administration released more than 30,000 pages of previously classified or censored documents related to the death of former President John F. Kennedy.

00:21:23.000 Potentially providing answers to decades-old questions that helped make the 1963 assassination an emblem of distrust in government.

00:21:29.000 But what was in it?

00:21:31.000 The answer was pretty much absolutely nothing.

00:21:34.000 And you could see that there was nothing by the way that people treated it.

00:21:37.000 So there were people online who immediately started trafficking around one page that was essentially just a recapitulation of a story from Ramparts magazine, which was essentially a Communist Front magazine in the 1960s, suggesting that the CIA had done it.

00:21:51.000 And people traffic this around, like, look what I've discovered.

00:21:54.000 This is amazing.

00:21:54.000 Okay, that actual Ramparts magazine piece has been part of the JFK lexicon for a very long time.

00:22:01.000 Nonetheless, people were trafficking it around, like there was something brand new.

00:22:05.000 As the blaze points out, the contents of the document, a July 19th, 1967 CIA memo marked secret, consists of excerpts from a June 1967 article in Ramparts, and now it's a funked leftist magazine that was deeply antagonistic to the CIA.

00:22:18.000 Actually, David Horowitz, who became a very prominent conservative voice, started off at Ramparts Magazine.

00:22:28.000 And people online started treating this as though it were absolutely shocking news.

00:22:34.000 My goodness, this was finally the smoking gun that the CIA killed.

00:22:39.000 JFK. That Rampart article had noted that a person named John Garrett Underhill Jr., known as Gary Underhill, left Washington in a hurry following the assassination and then showed up to a friend's house in New Jersey in an agitated state.

00:22:51.000 Supposedly, Underhill, who served with the military intelligence service during World War II and then worked on special projects for the CIA, told his friends that a cabal of CIA agents was responsible for the assassination.

00:23:01.000 Six months later, he was found dead of a gunshot wound in his Washington apartment, which was ruled a suicide.

00:23:07.000 Now, again, This is nothing new.

00:23:12.000 This person, for example, had met with Jim Garrison.

00:23:15.000 You remember Jim Garrison, the district attorney from Louisiana, who is the subject of the Oliver Stone gigantic movie?

00:23:21.000 Again, none of this is anything new, but it was treated by people who really know nothing about the JFK assassination as though this was magical, new, important news.

00:23:31.000 Senior reporter at the Epoch Times wrote, quote, this seems to be the biggest doc so far from the JFK files.

00:23:37.000 A popular ex-account concluded the CIA assassinated JFK, the sitting president of the United States.

00:23:44.000 And the answer is no.

00:23:45.000 The answer is no.

00:23:46.000 Here is the reality about the JFK assassination.

00:23:48.000 It was performed by a man named Lee Harvey Oswald.

00:23:51.000 Lee Harvey Oswald happened to have many screws loose.

00:23:55.000 In fact, just a few weeks earlier, he attempted to shoot a general in Texas and missed.

00:23:59.000 He happened to be a full-on Soviet sympathizer.

00:24:02.000 He'd actually gone over to the Soviet Union.

00:24:04.000 And he lived in the Soviet Union before the Soviet Union realized that he was a complete useless turd bucket of a human. 0.96

00:24:10.000 And then he ended up exported back to the United States.

00:24:13.000 And he showed up in Mexico at the Cuban Embassy in Mexico.

00:24:17.000 And so there was suspicion that maybe the Cubans had something to do with it.

00:24:20.000 And it turns out, nothing there either.

00:24:23.000 Nonetheless, did any of this evidence put any of the conspiracy theories to bed?

00:24:27.000 Of course not.

00:24:28.000 Of course not.

00:24:29.000 Because that's the whole point about conspiracy theories like the ones about JFK.

00:24:33.000 They do not require evidence.

00:24:34.000 The way that you can tell there's an actual conspiracy is evidence.

00:24:38.000 I know this is something that seems to have fallen out of fashion across a wide spectrum of our political conversation.

00:24:43.000 But evidence is generally required for outsized claims.

00:24:47.000 If you are going to claim, for example, that Donald Trump was a frontman for the Russians, you need some outsized evidence to demonstrate that that is a fact before it becomes the narrative that drives your entire political party and legacy media for four long years.

00:25:02.000 You're going to claim that the CIA murdered JFK?

00:25:05.000 Well, and you need more than some suppositions that you personally stitch together in your basement like Russell Crowe in A Beautiful Mind with some string, like Charlie Day in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

00:25:16.000 You actually need evidence because I've noticed that these conspiracy theories are becoming quite prominent on the right.

00:25:21.000 People just throw things out there and then they stitch together a pastiche of nonsense.

00:25:26.000 They'll take one fact, they'll take something that is utterly untrue, they'll stitch them together and then they'll pretend that this constitutes Hard evidence that the conspiracy is real.

00:25:35.000 Why does any of this matter?

00:25:36.000 Why do we care?

00:25:37.000 Well, the reason that this matters is because there is such a thing as what Karl Popper, the philosopher, called the great conspiracy theory of life.

00:25:44.000 And that is that if you fail in your own life, it is because there is a conspiracy that is out to get you.

00:25:49.000 And you see this great conspiracy theory of life pop up in politics all the time because demagogues can take advantage of it.

00:25:55.000 If you are on the left, you are told that you are a failure.

00:25:58.000 Because, not because of your own decision making, but because the American system is deeply and systemically racist, or sexist, or capitalistically evil.

00:26:08.000 And if you're on the right, you're told that perhaps you're a failure because of a secret cadre of the Jews! 1.00

00:26:15.000 Or maybe you're a secret failure because the industrialists all got together in the backroom to screw you.

00:26:21.000 Now, if you want to make a case that bad policy has led to your current life outcome, you can provide evidence.

00:26:26.000 Of that bad policy.

00:26:28.000 If you want to show that there's a conspiracy, typically some evidence should be required.

00:26:31.000 This is how we distinguish fact from fiction here in the real world, not on X, where it just becomes viral in a hot second.

00:26:37.000 But like in the real world, where you live in your house with your family, if your child came home and said to you, Mommy and Daddy, the aliens controlled my grade, you would say that's psychotic unless you have evidence of aliens.

00:26:50.000 And yet we constantly do this in the political sphere.

00:26:53.000 We just suggest that unnamed, unknowable forces are responsible for really weird things happening in the world.

00:27:00.000 And again, it turns out that many of the conspiracy theories that are not conspiracy theories are backed by, say, some evidence, and generally tend to be kind of plausible from the get-go.

00:27:09.000 So, for example, the left labeled it a conspiracy theory when Tom Cotton, the senator from Arkansas, suggested that perhaps a lab leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology was responsible for, you know, a virus in Wuhan arising.

00:27:23.000 From bats.

00:27:24.000 And it wasn't a wet market.

00:27:25.000 That was a pretty plausible theory because, you know, it was the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan that, you know, was where the pandemic started, was in Wuhan.

00:27:36.000 That was pretty plausible just on its face.

00:27:38.000 And then, of course, evidence started to be produced for the fact that there was gain-of-function research that actually was done at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:27:45.000 And that there had been, in fact, prior problems with leaks from the lab.

00:27:51.000 And so that starts to look like a theory that has evidence to support it.

00:27:54.000 But when you are doing a conspiracy theory for, at this point, 62 years, and evidence has not yet emerged to back your conspiracy theory, and you just keep saying, as soon as evidence emerges that doesn't back it, well, that's irrelevant.

00:28:06.000 You know, you're just part of the conspiracy.

00:28:08.000 This is, if people do this to you, the first thing you should do is wonder whether they are trustworthy on any issue.

00:28:13.000 Seriously, if people lie to you by promoting conspiracy theories that have no evidence long past the sell-by date, Then you should start wondering whether or not they are telling you the truth on many other issues, it seems to me.

00:28:26.000 Because there are a lot of people who have spent the last two days continuing to promote completely specious, evidence-free conspiracy theories about the JFK assassination because it matches their priors politically.

00:28:38.000 It was the American, secretly was the American government.

00:28:41.000 It had to be the American government.

00:28:43.000 Why? Because the American government is bad.

00:28:44.000 And because the CIA is evil.

00:28:46.000 And because the CIA is responsible for all the world's ills.

00:28:49.000 Or maybe, maybe the assassination was the fault of the evil industrialists who didn't like JFK.

00:28:57.000 The military-industrial complex that wanted to get us into war in Vietnam, even though it was JFK who got us into war in Vietnam and had no intention of withdrawing us.

00:29:04.000 Or maybe it was Mossad.

00:29:06.000 I mean, there's no evidence of it, but sure, maybe.

00:29:08.000 Now, I'm noticing that if your priors line up really, really well with your conspiracy theory, and then evidence of your conspiracy theory never emerges.

00:29:16.000 And your first move is to suggest that absence of evidence is evidence of absence.

00:29:20.000 Okay, that there being no evidence for your conspiracy theory means that it's only not there because of the conspiracy.

00:29:27.000 I think you're lying.

00:29:28.000 I think you know you're lying.

00:29:30.000 And if you don't know you're lying, you probably should give a rethink to how you do the logicking in the real world.

00:29:34.000 And if you are a fan of people who do this sort of thing, I would suggest that perhaps you think twice about whether they are credible on many other issues.

00:29:41.000 Are they willing to spin out full-scale theories that have no support for them?

00:29:45.000 For years on end, long after they have been effectively debunked by all available evidence.

00:29:51.000 In other words, if you were surprised by anything in the JFK files, like namely the fact that there's nothing new there, I don't know what to tell you.

00:30:00.000 Also, if the evidence had been different, then the theory would change.

00:30:04.000 But if your theory is precisely the same before and after the release of the evidence, and there's no new evidence to adduce to your theory, and your theory never had a lot of evidence, Then I just think you're being kind of dishonest for the clicks.

00:30:15.000 That's my take.

00:30:17.000 All right, meanwhile, Tesla has been victimized by wild, crazy people on the left.

00:30:22.000 Apparently, a wide variety of attacks on Tesla dealerships across the country because of Elon Musk's association with President Trump.

00:30:29.000 Now, the violent left is quite a real thing, as it turns out.

00:30:32.000 Chuck Schumer, the absolutely god-awful Senate minority leader from New York, he has a new book out about antisemitism, which, again, is an absurdity considering how...

00:30:41.000 Much anti-Semitism he himself has fostered within his party.

00:30:44.000 And he has not been going on his book tour because he's afraid that somebody's going to take a swipe at him or something.

00:30:49.000 Not from the right, from the left.

00:30:51.000 Well, the celebration of anti-Tesla violence also continues on the left.

00:30:55.000 According to the Associated Press, cyber trucks set ablaze.

00:30:59.000 Bullets and Molotov cocktails aimed at Tesla showrooms.

00:31:01.000 Attacks on property carrying the logo of Elon Musk's electric car company are cropping up across the United States and overseas.

00:31:07.000 While no injuries have been reported, Tesla showrooms, vehicle lots, charging stations, and privately owned cars have been targeted.

00:31:13.000 There's been a clear uptick since President Trump took office and empowered Musk to oversee a new Department of Governmental Efficiency that has been slashing government spending.

00:31:22.000 And some members of the left are absolutely fine with all of this.

00:31:27.000 Rick Wilson of the Exegrable Lincoln Project, he put out a full article about how tearing down Tesla is great for the country.

00:31:34.000 Tesla failing would be great for the country, which is...

00:31:36.000 Weird, because it's one of the most highly valued companies in the American market.

00:31:40.000 If the Tesla stock goes completely south, it's going to hurt a lot of people.

00:31:43.000 Not just people who own the Tesla stock, but people who work for Tesla.

00:31:47.000 It's going to hurt the market more generally.

00:31:50.000 President Trump, for his part, says these attacks on Tesla are obviously domestic terrorism, which they are.

00:31:56.000 But do you consider this an act of domestic terrorism?

00:31:58.000 Sure, I think so.

00:31:59.000 Why? I think that if and when they catch the people, and I hope they do, the good thing is they have a lot of cameras in those places.

00:32:06.000 And they've caught some already having to do with that.

00:32:08.000 I think that you will find out that they're paid by people that are very highly political on the left.

00:32:14.000 And he is right about that.

00:32:16.000 Meanwhile, Tim Walz, and thank God Tim Walz never became the vice president of the United States, because this guy, what an unbelievable schmuck he is.

00:32:24.000 Tim Walz, this goofball weirdo with all the wrong political principles, he was celebrating the decline in Tesla's stock price.

00:32:32.000 Because after all, when a great American company starts to fail...

00:32:35.000 Then probably you should celebrate it, according to Tim Walls, a man who literally has never produced a job, has never actually had to pay anybody, who's like an employee, he's never had to make payroll, who brags that he owns no stock and no real estate.

00:32:48.000 This person was almost vice president of the United States.

00:32:50.000 I'm saying on my phone, I don't know, some of you know this on the iPhone, they've got that little stock app.

00:32:56.000 I added Tesla to it to give me a little boost during the day.

00:32:59.000 2.25 and dropping.

00:33:03.000 So, go ahead.

00:33:08.000 And if you own one, if you own one, we're not blaming you.

00:33:12.000 You can take dental floss and pull the Tesla thing off, you know, and take out, just telling you.

00:33:19.000 Unreal. Just, what a gross human. 0.94

00:33:22.000 Seriously. I don't like the politics of the owners of a lot of companies.

00:33:27.000 If they don't make that the politics of the company itself, I'm willing to buy from the company.

00:33:31.000 If we were all going to cut ourselves off from the economy based on the political viewpoint of the person who owns the company or founded the company, that's a lot of products that go right off the shelves immediately and go bankrupt.

00:33:42.000 The real reason, of course, that the left is angry at Elon and angry at Tesla, again, they're now boycotting the world's leading electric vehicle company because they don't like Elon Musk.

00:33:50.000 It's kind of amazing.

00:33:52.000 Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, who's doing an excellent job, he says that the real reason that...

00:33:58.000 They're mad at Elon Musk is because Elon has been moving their cheese, which of course is true.

00:34:02.000 I said to Elon, we're in a meeting, and I said, you know, people are mad at you because you're moving their cheese.

00:34:10.000 And he goes, it's not their cheese, it's the American people's cheese.

00:34:13.000 100%. Every dollar spent goes into someone's pocket, and that person's going to fight tooth and nail to get that dollar to keep flowing into their pocket.

00:34:21.000 That is absolutely right.

00:34:22.000 Speaking of fighting tooth and nail, insane story that apparently the...

00:34:26.000 Top members of the U.S. Institute of Peace actually refused to leave their jobs when DOGE took over.

00:34:34.000 Not only did they sue to block the DOGE takeover, but apparently they literally barricaded themselves inside the headquarters as though this was the French Revolution or something rather than administrators from the federal government coming to fire them or audit their books.

00:34:50.000 This was spelled out by Caroline Levitt at the White House yesterday.

00:34:53.000 So on the United States Institute of Peace, this is a little bit wild.

00:34:57.000 I understand the old president refused to leave.

00:34:59.000 After he was removed from his position, he barricaded himself in his offices, had to be escorted out by police, left the building without Wi-Fi, telephones, elevators, and more, and is now telling media that Doe's broken and illegally removed him.

00:35:15.000 It became very clear that there was a concerted effort amongst the rogue bureaucrats at the United States Institute of Peace to actually physically barricade themselves essentially inside of the building to prevent political appointees of this administration who work at the direction of the President of the United States to get into the building.

00:35:35.000 Peace in the Daily Caller, thank you for sharing the truth on this, about what happened.

00:35:40.000 Staff contacted the MPD in an attempt to prevent DOGE personnel from entering.

00:35:45.000 They barricaded the doors.

00:35:47.000 They also disabled telephone lines, internet connections, and other IT infrastructure within the building.

00:35:54.000 They distributed flyers internally, encouraging each other to basically prevent these individuals from accessing the building.

00:36:02.000 I use this to say this is what Doge and this administration is facing.

00:36:07.000 It's a resistance from bureaucrats who don't want to see change in this city.

00:36:12.000 She's right about that.

00:36:14.000 The U.S. Institute of Peace, again, those employees are suing, which they have every right to do, but the idea that they barricaded themselves inside as though they were resisting a riot or something is indeed insane.

00:36:25.000 Meanwhile, the left-wing resistance continues to extend to the courts.

00:36:29.000 So a district court judge, again, it's district court judges all over the United States, who are now acting outside of their jurisdiction and striking down nationwide action by the White House on the basis of temporary restraining orders.

00:36:40.000 This stuff was never a part of the American legal landscape until about 1960.

00:36:44.000 There is still no clear Supreme Court precedent as to whether a district court judge can enjoin entire national policies based on a local case that's being brought in some far-flung federal jurisdiction.

00:36:56.000 Apparently, one of these district court judges has now barred the Trump administration from ousting Transgendered people from the military.

00:37:05.000 I was unaware that there is a federal right to serve in the military.

00:37:09.000 There is not, in fact, a federal right to serve in the military.

00:37:12.000 There's a whole range of conditions that people have that bar them from serving in the military, ranging from depression to obesity.

00:37:20.000 The court's opinion is long, but the premise is simple.

00:37:23.000 According to this court, in the self-evident truth that all people are created equal, all means all, nothing more, and certainly...

00:37:30.000 Nothing less.

00:37:32.000 Well, I mean, hold up just a second there, Bobo.

00:37:36.000 It seems that all people being created equal, but that means that people have equal rights.

00:37:41.000 Doesn't mean they're equal in all of their capabilities.

00:37:43.000 Whether you serve in the military is a question of capability.

00:37:47.000 That is like suggesting that if you are a legless person, you can't serve in the police is some form of discrimination.

00:37:53.000 I mean, it's going to make it real hard for you to chase the criminals.

00:37:56.000 And it turns out that one of the things that makes you less militarily ready is thinking you're a member of the opposite sex and then requiring hundreds of thousands of dollars of hormone treatments and facial surgeries and reconstructive genital surgeries in order to make you feel better about yourself.

00:38:08.000 Like, that seems like that's not a great contributor to military readiness, actually.

00:38:13.000 Stephen Miller, policy advisor to the president, put out a statement, quote, Currently, district court judges have assumed the mantle of Secretary of Defense, Secretary of State, Secretary of Homeland Security, and Commander-in-Chief.

00:38:23.000 Each day they change the foreign policy, economic staffing, and national security policies of the administration.

00:38:27.000 Each day the nation arises to see what the craziest unelected local federal judge has decided the policies of the government of the United States shall be.

00:38:34.000 It is madness.

00:38:35.000 It is lunacy.

00:38:36.000 It is pure lawlessness.

00:38:37.000 It is the gravest assault on democracy.

00:38:38.000 It must and will end.

00:38:40.000 Which is exactly why, by the way, the Supreme Court needs to take up these cases immediately.

00:38:46.000 Just to elevate it to the Supreme Court already.

00:38:47.000 What are they doing?

00:38:49.000 This is the fault, in fact, of Chief Justice John Roberts.

00:38:53.000 There was a case that was elevated to the Supreme Court asking whether district court judges had the ability to issue nationwide injunctions, temporary restraining orders, and it was turned down by a majority of the court.

00:39:03.000 And that's why you are seeing this sort of chaos emerging in the court.

00:39:06.000 If Roberts wants to reestablish some form of actual credibility in the courts, the Supreme Court needs to rule on this matter.

00:39:15.000 Apparently, this is precisely what President Trump is actually planning, is to get this to the Supreme Court so he can have some clarity.

00:39:20.000 According to Axios, Or, for example,

00:39:47.000 The president's ruling on whether people who suffer from gender dysphoria have a right to serve in the military.

00:39:52.000 Can that judge's order extend to international waters and demand that a plane full of deportees turn around mid-flight?

00:39:57.000 Does a green card holder have speech rights that protect him from deportation?

00:40:01.000 Or can the secretary of state declare his speech adverse to U.S.

00:40:04.000 foreign policy interests?

00:40:05.000 Because the government alleges that it aligns with the terror group Hamas.

00:40:08.000 It doesn't just allege, it does.

00:40:10.000 Can the Secretary of State's power to deport immigrants based on foreign policy concerns extend to so many visa student holders?

00:40:16.000 That some colleges won't be able to admit foreign exchange students at all.

00:40:19.000 Well, I mean, seeking clarity from the Supreme Court is how the system works.

00:40:23.000 That is not, in fact, a corrupt move by Trump.

00:40:25.000 That is, in fact, working well within the system.

00:40:27.000 Getting the Supreme Court to rule on things is quite an important aspect of the system, actually.

00:40:33.000 Again, important things are happening.

00:40:35.000 That is why, as I've said a thousand times, very important not to sink the economy.

00:40:40.000 The tariff uneasiness continues.

00:40:43.000 The markets have been quite a ride over the course.

00:40:45.000 Of the last couple of weeks.

00:40:47.000 The markets are down about 6% over the course of the last month.

00:40:50.000 The Dow Jones Industrial Average yesterday did rise.

00:40:53.000 It has not yet reached where it was last week or the week before.

00:40:57.000 With that said, news that White House aides are preparing to impose new tariffs on most imports on April 2nd, laying the groundwork for an escalation in global economic hostilities that President Trump has called Liberation Day that is going to roil the markets.

00:41:08.000 Perhaps people are betting that President Trump pre-negotiates something that's not as bad as expected.

00:41:12.000 I certainly would hope so.

00:41:15.000 Through his first two months in office, the president has raised tariffs on roughly $800 billion in imports from China, Mexico, and Canada.

00:41:21.000 Those tariffs have harmed the stock market generally.

00:41:24.000 Despite the blowback, senior Trump advisors are now publicly pledging to create a new tariff regime that would impose new duties on trade with most countries that actually do trade with the United States.

00:41:33.000 Laura Ingram asked President Trump the relevant question last night.

00:41:37.000 She said to President Trump, you know, you seem very tough on a lot of countries on trade.

00:41:41.000 Why so tough on Canada?

00:41:42.000 Like, what's the deal?

00:41:44.000 You're tougher with Canada than you are with some of our biggest adversaries.

00:41:48.000 Only because it's meant to be our 51st trade.

00:41:51.000 Okay, but listen to this for a second.

00:41:53.000 They have territorial advantage.

00:41:55.000 We're not going to let them get close to China. 0.96

00:41:58.000 Okay, so again, that would be the relevant question.

00:42:00.000 And if the market goes down, that is going to be the question that a lot of people are asking.

00:42:04.000 Scott Besson, again, doing a great job as Treasury Secretary.

00:42:06.000 He says the underlying numbers in the economy remain healthy.

00:42:09.000 There is a strange pattern that seems to be happening with regards to this administration.

00:42:12.000 When the tariff hawks go on TV, the markets drop.

00:42:16.000 When the Treasury Secretary appears on TV, the markets quiet.

00:42:18.000 That is not a coincidence.

00:42:19.000 questions.

00:42:21.000 What I can guarantee you is that there is no reason we need to have a recession.

00:42:26.000 I think that there's the economy in the first quarter is doing better than The media is reporting.

00:42:36.000 I think we're seeing some very good underlying data from credit card companies, from banks.

00:42:43.000 I think that the airlines, which reported some bad passenger numbers, a big amount of that is from federal employees who are not flying right now.

00:42:53.000 Again, Besson is not wrong.

00:42:55.000 Focus on deregulation and tax cuts, and the rest will heal itself.

00:42:59.000 Meanwhile, Democrats continue to struggle for a way forward.

00:43:04.000 They're all attacking each other.

00:43:05.000 It's a circular firing squad over there.

00:43:06.000 Chuck Schumer continues to defend his actions in maintaining the continuing resolution to the great consternation of members of the left-wing media.

00:43:13.000 Here he was on MSNBC yesterday attempting this.

00:43:16.000 One of the Republican senators told us that if there's a shutdown, they're going to keep the government shut down for six months, nine months, a year, till they decimate the federal government.

00:43:28.000 The two trillion dollars that Musk and Doge and this horrible guy Vogt, who's the head of OMB, which controls all this, wanted a cut from the government, they could do easily and no recourse.

00:43:40.000 People forget it's the executive.

00:43:43.000 There have been court decisions that say only the executive determines what's essential.

00:43:47.000 So unlike a CR where you can at least go to court and challenge the executive orders, you can't do it here.

00:43:53.000 So I knew it would be a disaster.

00:43:56.000 Sure, he's not wrong on this, by the way.

00:43:59.000 But that's not stopping the left from sniping at him.

00:44:01.000 So here is Nancy Pelosi, the former Speaker of the House, sniping at Schumer.

00:44:06.000 It is about what comes next.

00:44:08.000 I myself don't give away anything for nothing.

00:44:12.000 And I think that's what happened the other day.

00:44:16.000 We could have, in my view, perhaps gotten them to agree to a third way, which was a bipartisan CR for four weeks in which we could have had bipartisan legislation to Okay, meanwhile, Bernie Sanders is noting that amidst all the chaos among Democrats, there is no grassroots support for the Democratic Party.

00:44:38.000 And again, Bernie is not wrong about all this.

00:44:41.000 In the Democratic Party, you've got a party that is heavily dominated by the billionaire class, run by consultants who are way out of touch with reality.

00:44:51.000 The Democratic Party has virtually no grassroots support.

00:44:55.000 So what we are trying to do is, in one way or another, maybe create a party within the party of bringing millions of young people, working class people, people of color, to demand that the Democratic Party start standing with the working class.

00:45:10.000 I'm just going to note here that Bernie's pitch here is actually better than the pitch of many other people in the Democratic Party, which is why the economy needs to stay on good footing, because if it does not, it's going to be the Bernie bros who actually rise.

00:45:22.000 All right, coming up, we're going to get to Hillary Clinton. 0.99

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The Case For Derek Chauvin | Episode 2: The Incident

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