00:00:07.000The man accused of assassinating Charlie Kirk wasn't even there.
00:00:10.000And then yesterday, prosecutors played all the tape, like a lot of tape.
00:00:14.000Never before seen security footage of Robinson arriving at Utah Valley University, moving toward the building, the car leaving campus after Charlie was shot and sitting in that courtroom watching it were Charlie's parents and his widow Erica face to face with the accused killer.
00:00:35.000So, unfortunately for Candace Owens, reality exists and it continues to exist.
00:00:41.000So, the second day of the Charlie Kirk murder preliminary hearing occurred yesterday.
00:00:48.000And on Tuesday, prosecutors showed a bunch of security footage of Tyler Robinson on the UVU, Utah Valley University campus on September 10th, the day that he was accused of shooting and killing Charlie Kirk.
00:01:00.000Now, to understand that this is rather damning for Candace Owens and her conspiratorial clique of morons.
00:01:06.000She suggested that Tyler Robinson was never on campus like a week and a half ago, two weeks ago, with fellow dolt Sean Ryan.
00:01:38.000I do not believe that Tyler Robinson is the person who was walking in that staircase.
00:01:42.000I do not believe the person walking in the staircase was even the person that we saw running off of the roof.
00:01:47.000I don't even know what day that person was running off the roof.
00:01:52.000Every time I watch an exchange like this kind of thing between Candace Owens and Sean Ryan, I feel a disturbance in the forest as if billions of brain cells suddenly cry out in terror and are suddenly silenced.
00:03:30.000Her magical connections with the great beyond informed her of this stellar theory The person walking in the video they are presenting is very clearly a tall person, well above six feet.
00:03:53.000Fellow conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones, host Jesse on fire, Jesse Merle, is now making the case that Charlie, believe it or not, is still alive and well, which must be breaking news to his wife and children.
00:05:38.000Or maybe it's because my security was checking in with Charlie's security because Charlie's security, no one knew where exactly the shooter was at this time.
00:05:49.000And my team basically went into lockdown.
00:05:52.000And I would bet money, good money, that Charlie's people at TPUSA.
00:05:56.000I was not the only person who was being talked to by people at TPUSA about security arrangements.
00:06:03.000But according to Candace, because my security was talking to Charlie's security, what that means is that clearly we were coordinating the hit or the cover up.
00:06:11.000She put out a tweet: Everything Ben did following the assassination made my alarm bells go off.
00:06:19.000Well, I mean, if her alarm bells are going off, that's not the alarm bells.
00:06:22.000Those are just the voices in her head.
00:06:24.000I have told you guys there is something about the Daily Wire and their relentless stalking of me.
00:06:28.000Following my firing that has made me feel altogether unsafe.
00:06:35.000I have felt their obsessive focus on destroying me is deranged and increasingly dangerous.
00:06:39.000What did Andrew Colvitt mean when he told me it was supposed to be you?
00:06:42.000Why did Turning Point betray Charlie so quickly by allowing Ben to open at Amfest after declaring immediately that he would pick up Charlie's blood mic?
00:06:49.000Uh, I mean, what I said is we all have to pick up Charlie's bloody microphone because no one person can fill the gap left by Charlie.
00:06:58.000Why didn't Ben mention this before today that he was receiving status updates while Charlie was bleeding out?
00:07:03.000Well, because I didn't feel that my personal experiences were particularly relevant until yesterday when we were talking about the preliminary hearing.
00:07:12.000I clocked that Ben was too invested in this, too invested, too invested, as opposed to Candace, who spent literally every waking moment since Charlie's death trying to spread conspiracy theories about his wife and, yes, his children and his organization.
00:07:29.000His energy on stage demanding that Megan Kelly call me evil.
00:07:32.000By the way, Megan playing this little game.
00:07:50.000Anyway, his energy on stage demanding that Megan call me evil and his overprotective stance on Erica always registered to me as deeply nervous.
00:07:59.000You mean me saying that you shouldn't attack the widow of the guy who got shot?
00:08:28.000I'm just going to point out at this point the things in her soul.
00:08:32.000I'm not going to speculate as to what Candace owns as a soul, assuming she has one.
00:08:36.000But the idea that I worship Satan literally no, I worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, you know, as described in the Old Testament, because I'm a Jew.1.00
00:08:48.000And I understand what Candace is trying to do because this is her entire shtick and it's vile and it's disgusting.
00:08:56.000You know, Candace is going to Candace.0.88
00:08:57.000The only reason to continue pointing this out is because, again, people like Candace continue to draw a crowd.
00:09:03.000If you wish for the conservative movement in the United States to have the brainworms completely eat the prefrontal cortex, if you wish for a conspiratorial conservative movement that is unable to distinguish basic, obvious truth from overt, stupid, retarded lies, if you wish for a conservative movement led by the ambulatory psychotic, Then please continue down this road, please.
00:09:29.000And ignore all the facts being presented in court and ignore all the tape and all the DNA evidence and reality itself.
00:09:34.000And instead, follow this posse of clowns, liars, and losers down the primrose path to both moral and political hell.
00:09:42.000Seriously, you could, you could do that.
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00:10:54.000Joining me on the line is DailyWire investigative reporter Lyndon Blake.
00:10:57.000She, of course, has been covering the Charlie Kirk murder hearings over in Arizona.
00:11:03.000Lyndon, thanks so much for taking time.
00:11:08.000So obviously, these preliminary hearings, as we've been discussing on the show, basically lay out in sort of bare bones fashion the evidence that the prosecution is going to present at trial.
00:11:16.000The defense can make objections to the introduction of that evidence.
00:11:19.000The purpose of the preliminary hearing is to demonstrate to a judge that there is enough evidence to actually go through with a full prosecution in the full trial.
00:11:27.000But we are learning some things in these preliminary hearings over the course of the first couple of days.
00:11:31.000What are some of the big things that we've been seeing?
00:11:46.000We talked about DNA on the screwdriver that was found on the rooftop where the prosecution says Tyler Robinson kneeled down on that sniper pad to take the shot at Charlie Kirk.
00:11:57.000And there was also DNA found on the towel that was found wrapped around the rifle that the prosecution says Robinson used.
00:12:03.000So the DNA that was, people are calling it a bombshell.
00:12:07.000It's not surprising that Lance Twiggs's DNA and Tyler Robinson's DNA were found on the objects because they were roommates.
00:12:15.000And, but still to hear Lance Twiggs, The roommate, the lover that has been the mysterious character in all of this, to hear his name brought up in court from both witnesses, from the prosecution and the defense, as having DNA on that screwdriver and the towel, along with Tyler Robinson's, was some new information that we haven't heard before.
00:12:34.000I want to specify that the majority of the DNA, there was a mixed DNA found on objects.
00:12:39.000We talked about mixed DNA a lot on this show.
00:12:41.00095% of the DNA on one of the objects was Tyler Robinson's, 5% was Lance Twiggs's, on the other object, 89% was Tyler Robinson's, 11% was Lance Twigg's.
00:12:53.000So the majority of the DNA that showed up on these objects was Tyler Robinson.
00:12:58.000But that's where we left off on Tuesday with this DNA expert that was testifying for the defense, just explaining the DNA.
00:13:04.000And the defense, of course, is trying to question her authority on the DNA to try to poke holes in.
00:13:13.000Are you sure that you did all the steps correctly?
00:13:16.000And of course, the prosecution and their cross examination of the DNA expert was just making her clarify the facts.
00:13:21.000Another big thing that we learned on The second day, the preliminary hearing, we got to see a lot of new surveillance video, raw footage from Utah Valley's campus of what the prosecution says is Robinson.
00:13:32.000And the person on the stand for the prosecution says that that is Tyler Robinson.
00:13:39.000One thing that stood out to me was the officer, Officer David Hull, said that Tyler Robinson came to campus, walked around, left, came back, walked around, left, then came back with a change of clothes.
00:13:52.000And that's you got to see the person that they're saying is Robinson walk with that weird.
00:14:02.000The officer was able to identify Robinson on the roof.
00:14:05.000And he said that you could clearly see on the roof that he had something concealed there before he jumped off the roof.
00:14:11.000And then what was interesting is Officer David Hole said that Robinson had a run in with a different officer hours after the shooting around 6 30 on September 10th.
00:14:23.000And the officer got some type of weird instinct.
00:14:27.000Took down the license plate and then the early morning hours of September 11th actually told Officer David Hole, Yeah, I ran his tag and it came back for Tyler Robinson.
00:14:38.000So these are just new details that we haven't been given before.
00:14:42.000And this is not going to be, if this goes to trial, that's when the prosecution is going to lay out every bit of evidence they have.
00:14:50.000This is more of a low burden for the prosecution.
00:14:53.000They're not going to show all their cards.
00:14:55.000They just have to prove probable cause.
00:14:57.000Tyler Robinson probably did this and the judge will decide to send this to trial.
00:15:02.000But still, you're getting some interesting information, some new evidence introduced that the public hasn't had a chance to learn about.
00:15:10.000So, Lyndon, what can we expect for the rest of this week in terms of more of the evidence that's going to be presented?
00:15:15.000Obviously, it's going on the entire week.
00:15:16.000It's supposed to end on Friday, I believe.
00:15:19.000And then, do we know how long the delay is between the preliminary hearing and the actual trial?
00:16:15.000And so today could be the day that we get that recorded statement from Lance Twiggs giving an on record official statement about this heinous crime on Charlie Kirk.
00:16:25.000And I think that's the piece of evidence that everyone is waiting to hear.
00:16:30.000So, Lyndon, I mean, obviously, even in the first couple of days, there have been enormous number of conspiracy theories that have been trotted out by psychotics over the course of the last 10 months or so that have been completely destroyed.
00:16:41.000There's a theory that was put out by Candace Owens, of course, who's been the leader of the psychotic brigade on all of this, claiming that Tyler Robinson was never on campus.
00:16:48.000As you mentioned, We now have copious footage of Tyler Robinson on campus.
00:16:52.000There were claims that the DNA was false.
00:16:56.000There were claims that Tyler Robinson, again, was some sort of patsy.
00:17:00.000There's been no evidence adduced to that by anyone at this point.
00:17:04.000What do you make of the sort of broader context in which all of this is happening, where you have legitimately an entire ambulatory psychotic wing of the woke right that has decided that they are going to unspool conspiracy theories?
00:17:16.000And every single day, those conspiracy theories are being debunked.
00:17:19.000And yet, it doesn't seem the conspiracy theories ever go away.
00:17:34.000And this judge, Judge Tony Graff, from what I've seen and the people I've talked to that have been in this business for years, he is a good judge.
00:17:42.000He is doing a good job of handling this preliminary hearing right now.
00:17:46.000And for all the conspiracy theorists, I would say watch the information.
00:17:49.000And social media is a dangerous thing.
00:17:51.000And even in the last day, when I have just been reporting, What the witnesses have said on the stand, people are coming at me.
00:18:03.000No, in the world of social media where everyone thinks they're a journalist, in times like this, it's important to follow the people that know how to relay accurate information.
00:18:13.000You can spin information any way you want to, and distribute it any way you want to, but that does not mean the information is accurate.
00:18:21.000You need to follow people that know how to cover a court case and know how to give the accurate information out.
00:18:26.000It has gotten to the point where it is nasty.
00:18:28.000It is disgusting and it's unprofessional.
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