The Ben Shapiro Show - June 11, 2026


The Danger Of Being "Too Online"


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If Republicans get too online, meaning they run bad candidates who don t focus on the issues Americans actually care about, the GOP could very well lose this November in the mid-terms. No number of attempted coups by the out of touch podcastistan crowd will be able to overcome the will of the American people s votes.

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00:00:00.000 If Republicans get too online, meaning they run bad candidates who don't focus on the issues Americans actually care about, the GOP could very well lose this November in the midterms. 0.62
00:00:08.000 No number of attempted coups by the out of touch podcastistan crowd will be able to overcome the will of the American people's votes.
00:00:16.000 From the Epstein files to the Iran war to Russian grocery stores, it turns out that the weirdos are just that conspiracy minded weirdos who don't actually resonate with the vast, vast majority of the American public.
00:00:27.000 This is worth a bigger electoral analysis, so let's dive in.
00:00:30.000 If the Republicans get two online, if they run bad candidates, and they have many times in the past, there should be, at a minimum, four additional Republican senators in the Senate right now two from Georgia, two from Arizona.
00:00:42.000 And they went two online.
00:00:43.000 As Harry Ensign points out, Democrats do not need to win Maine, theoretically, if they can get some of the two online Republicans to lose.
00:00:54.000 Four seats.
00:00:54.000 That is what they need to net.
00:00:56.000 And I think that there is this idea out there that if Graham Plattner doesn't win in Maine, then it screws the Democrats.
00:01:01.000 That is not true at all.
00:01:03.000 Yes, it may make it more difficult.
00:01:04.000 But they have a real path even without winning in Maine.
00:01:07.000 What are we talking about?
00:01:08.000 Well, why don't we just take a look at some polling in some key states, right?
00:01:11.000 Some state polling in GOP held seats.
00:01:13.000 These are states that Donald Trump won by double digits.
00:01:15.000 But look at this the Democrats in the average of polls are actually slightly ahead.
00:01:19.000 Sheridan Brown in Ohio, he's up by three points.
00:01:22.000 He's, of course, the former senator who lost his seat back in 2024.
00:01:25.000 How about in Texas, which has not elected a Democrat to the United States Senate since 1988?
00:01:30.000 We see James Tallarico, again, a small lead, well within the margin of error, but in the average poll, he's up three points.
00:01:30.000 What do we see here?
00:01:41.000 So in two states, we have Okay, so how can Republicans blow it?
00:01:54.000 Well, again, if they disconnect from the things Americans want, they can in fact blow it.
00:01:59.000 And the way to do that is you go to online.
00:02:01.000 You pretend that X is reality.
00:02:03.000 So a couple of examples over the course of the last 24 hours.
00:02:07.000 Both of them from South Carolina.
00:02:08.000 So South Carolina, Lindsey Graham. 1.00
00:02:10.000 Had been targeted by the Tucker Carlson wing of the Republican Party because Lindsey Graham is a hawkish interventionist on foreign policy.
00:02:16.000 And this is unacceptable, unacceptable.
00:02:19.000 And so the Tucker Carlson wing of the party had tried to launch a primary campaign against Lindsey Graham, and Graham just whomped his opposition, whomped him.
00:02:26.000 I mean, 57% of the primary vote to Mark Lynch's 28.9% of the primary vote.
00:02:31.000 So, so much for that effort.
00:02:33.000 You know, yet another Tucker Carlson attempted coup or attempted maintenance in the case of Thomas Massey.
00:02:41.000 That has gone down to flaming defeat.
00:02:44.000 Meanwhile, in the two online world, Nancy Mays, representative from South Carolina, who is very online, spends a lot of time online, does representative Mays, and decided that she was going to steer directly into the very online of the Epstein files last year.
00:03:00.000 Well, it turns out that without Donald Trump's endorsement in her South Carolina gubernatorial nomination race, she completely flamed out.
00:03:07.000 She won 12% of the vote overall, and she got destroyed in this race by a wide variety of candidates.
00:03:14.000 She finished fifth.
00:03:16.000 And she knows why she finished fifth.
00:03:18.000 She put out a tweet.
00:03:20.000 And her tweet said, I know I put the likelihood of an endorsement on the line when I demanded transparency on the Epstein files.
00:03:26.000 I demanded it because you deserve the truth, all of it.
00:03:28.000 And as a survivor of a corrupt and broken court system, I will always pursue justice for those who deserve it.
00:03:33.000 If sacrificing my values is the price of an endorsement, I will never pay it.
00:03:35.000 Okay, let's be clear about what happened with the Epstein files and the release of the files.
00:03:40.000 The reason the DOJ was hesitant to release the files is because the files had a bunch of references to people.
00:03:46.000 Who had nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein, and also were basically just unverified gossip from the FBI tip line. 0.92
00:03:52.000 They contained an enormous amount of crap.
00:03:54.000 And as you saw, when all that stuff got released into the public view, there were a bunch of people who got named publicly who were not guilty of anything. 0.99
00:04:01.000 And there were also a bunch of allegations that were absurd that saw the light of day.
00:04:06.000 And this is a warning for Republicans.
00:04:08.000 If you follow the two online, you will end up in a bad place.
00:04:13.000 This is particularly a warning for the 2028 race.
00:04:16.000 The current frontrunner for the 2028 nomination for the Republican Party is obviously the vice president of the United States, JD Vance.
00:04:21.000 And he happens to be extraordinarily online.
00:04:24.000 I've urged him many times before to log off and touch grass.
00:04:28.000 The reason I say this now is because there is an article in the New York Times talking about the White House freakout over the Epstein files.
00:04:35.000 And JD Vance's name is all over this article, all over it.
00:04:40.000 According to the article, July 17th, 2025, Vice President Vance took a seat at the head of a table in the John F. Kennedy conference room of the Situation Room Complex.
00:04:48.000 This is a huge problem, he told the other people in the room.
00:04:51.000 That'd be Susie Wiles, Caroline Lovett, Stephen Chung, Todd Blanch of the AG's office, Pam Bondi, Kash Patel.
00:04:58.000 The vice president appeared panicked to others in the room about the way the subject of Epstein was already dividing the MAGA coalition.
00:05:05.000 Now, again, some of that has to do with the people that the vice president is personally close with, including Tucker Carlson.
00:05:10.000 Some senior officials had the impression that Vance had bought into the darkest theories about Epstein and a cabal of predators hidden within the country's ruling class.
00:05:17.000 That, of course, would not be surprising since he was preaching that when he was not the vice president.
00:05:22.000 Wiles would tell others the vice president had proved himself to be a major conspiracy theorist.
00:05:27.000 Another top official said later that Vance had been pounding on the Epstein issue since the release of the memo.
00:05:32.000 Who's privately pressing for the administration to release all Epstein files, everything in the DOJ possession, even encouraging a congressional investigation.
00:05:39.000 Vance, Helen Line, is the vice president.
00:05:42.000 He had floated to colleagues in an extraordinary PR gambit that the White House enlists, wait for it, Tucker Carlson to interview Epstein's longtime girlfriend and co-conspirator, Ghislaine Maxwell in prison.
00:05:54.000 So the vice president trying to broker an interview for his friend Tucker Carlson and Ghislaine Maxwell, the Jeffrey Epstein's co-conspirator in prison.
00:06:04.000 It might help the president.
00:06:06.000 If Maxwell was willing to state that Trump had not been part of any wrongdoing with Epstein, Vance told the group he believed all the files should be released as soon as possible.
00:06:16.000 Donald Trump Jr., JD Vance, Charlie Kirk, all of them who spent enormous amounts of time on social media were very worried, according to the New York Times.
00:06:25.000 Vance made clear to colleagues he feared losing some of the so called low propensity voters, the young men who are not traditional Republicans, but who had voted for the Trump Vance ticket in 2024.
00:06:34.000 This was an audience tuned into the Manosphere podcasters like Joe Rogan.
00:06:38.000 And it was worrisome that the podcast hosts themselves were now rebelling.
00:06:42.000 Vance's recommendation, by the way, is that he book himself on Rogan to talk about it.
00:06:45.000 Because Rogan, again, Joe loves conspiracy theories.
00:06:50.000 He does.
00:06:51.000 And Joe was not willing to have on Todd Blanch, the assistant to AG who would actually know about the documents.
00:06:56.000 So Vance was trying to book himself on that.
00:06:57.000 The reason I say this is a problem if the Republican Party programs into, if JD Vance programs into the two online area, he will lose the 2028 election.
00:07:07.000 It is that simple.
00:07:09.000 If he decides that the priorities of the American people are whatever X thinks the priorities are, he is going to lose because that is not where the American people are.
00:07:16.000 It is not where the American people were.
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00:08:37.000 And by the way, if you think that the Republican Party after President Trump is going to be nearly as it that you can just pick up the Trump coalition and carry it forward, the reason that Donald Trump got a lot of young men to vote for him is twofold.
00:08:51.000 One, Trump has a unique capacity to break through.
00:08:53.000 In a way, no other politician does, none.
00:08:55.000 And two, he was running against a party that decided to trans the children. 0.74
00:09:01.000 You can't just pick up the last guy's coalition and try to run to daylight. 0.72
00:09:04.000 That's not the way this works.
00:09:06.000 If the vice president decides to program into the two online world, what he is going to end up doing, instead of maximizing the best parts of himself, and again, this is stuff I've said directly to the vice president's team, the vice president, instead of trying to maximize the most sympathetic, most interesting parts of himself, if he decides to program to The online world, he is going to minimize every part of Trump's coalition.
00:09:31.000 If you look at President Trump's coalition, President Trump won an outsized number of blue collar white voters.
00:09:36.000 He won an outsized number of blacks, Hispanics, Asians, whites, and married women.
00:09:42.000 JD Vance will win fewer voters in every single one of those categories.
00:09:46.000 He will not even pick up votes to compensate in the college educated parts of the category if he continues to program into this.
00:09:51.000 There's a world where he forms his own new coalition based on his particular skill set, but if he continues to follow the primrose path, if you end up Let's put it this way.
00:09:59.000 If you end up as a high ranking member of the United States government recommending that your solution to a PR crisis is to get Tucker Carlson, who believes that Iran is good in the Middle East, who goes to Russia to sniff the bread, who humors every insane conspiracy theory, who thinks he was scratched by demons, if you're the vice president, if you're suggesting that he must interview Ghislaine Maxwell as a defensive play, you might be too online.
00:10:25.000 You might be too online.
00:10:28.000 And again, the too online right will destroy the right.
00:10:30.000 It will if it is continually fed.
00:10:35.000 And Candace Owens is a great example of this.
00:10:37.000 It remains absolutely incredible who refuses to see the reality about the Candace Owens wing, which again is not Republican.
00:10:45.000 I mean, she has openly stated that Republicans should not vote for Republicans in 2026.
00:10:50.000 Now she's going so far as to suggest that viewers go to Russia to see the grocery stores for ourselves because we don't have grocery stores here in the United States.
00:10:58.000 You have to travel to Russia.
00:11:02.000 I encourage literally every person in the world to visit Russia.
00:11:07.000 Apply for a visa.
00:11:09.000 You actually are allowed to do that, Dana.
00:11:12.000 Go see the Kremlin Museum.
00:11:13.000 You will be spiritually moved by Russia.
00:11:16.000 Everything, and I mean everything that we have been told about Russia is a lie.
00:11:21.000 Okay?
00:11:22.000 So when Tucker Carlson was going around looking at the grocery stores, that was not propaganda.
00:11:28.000 That is real.
00:11:29.000 Like I said, an entire Catholic family moved there from Iowa.
00:11:33.000 And I asked them blankly, is this just in Moscow?
00:11:36.000 They live an hour and a half outside?
00:11:37.000 No.
00:11:37.000 I said, one of the most amazing things is how cheap the food is.
00:11:40.000 How healthy the food is at every place is like Whole Foods.
00:11:44.000 They particularly pointed out the grocery stores, but I don't want you to take it from me.
00:11:48.000 I don't want you to take it from Tucker Carlson.
00:11:50.000 I want you to go for yourself.
00:11:51.000 I want you to use your own eyes and I want you to believe your own eyes.
00:11:55.000 They are so healthy in Russia, by the way.
00:11:56.000 Everything is so healthy, the food, everything is so healthy that the life expectancy for men is 67 years in Russia.
00:12:02.000 67.
00:12:03.000 The life expectancy for men in the United States is about 80.
00:12:07.000 So things are great in Russia. 0.83
00:12:08.000 By the way, you can see Russia today is promoting this.
00:12:11.000 Literally, our enemies are promoting Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson.
00:12:14.000 This is what they do now.
00:12:15.000 This is what happens if you go online.
00:12:17.000 You get the brain worms and then you can't get them out of your brain.
00:12:21.000 Here she was explaining that our society is not Russia, not Russia, which has a replacement, a fertility rate of 1.3.
00:12:30.000 Russia's not on the decline.
00:12:31.000 They have no economy. 0.81
00:12:33.000 They're a gas station with nuclear weapons.
00:12:37.000 Half the country doesn't have indoor toilets.
00:12:39.000 And she says that Russia's not in decline.
00:12:41.000 The United States is in decline, she says, from her palatial estate in America.
00:12:47.000 My takeaway from visiting Russia is that.
00:12:50.000 It is our society that is on the decline, not theirs.
00:12:54.000 Russia, like I said, has not been communist in over 30 years.
00:12:57.000 What about us?
00:12:59.000 Pornography, welfarism, nonstop war, debt.
00:13:05.000 People telling us that they're literally right.
00:13:07.000 This is great.
00:13:08.000 This is you being free. 0.99
00:13:10.000 You wouldn't want to live in Russia. 1.00
00:13:11.000 That's the boogeyman syndrome, right?
00:13:14.000 They're comparing it to something that you've never seen so that you don't, I don't know, riot in the streets. 0.80
00:13:22.000 So you don't riot because you would need a society like Russia's.
00:13:25.000 Otherwise, you're going to ride in the streets when you find out how great it is in Russia.
00:13:28.000 You know what Candace should do?
00:13:29.000 She should go to Russia and say precisely the same kinds of things about Putin that she has said about Trump here in the United States and see how long she lasts as like a human.
00:13:37.000 It would not go particularly well.
00:13:41.000 Do not get the brain worms, folks. 1.00
00:13:42.000 Do not allow the brain.
00:13:43.000 It's so funny.
00:13:44.000 There are people who are constantly talking about the dangers of podcasts to stand and what happens, all the podcasters attacking each other.
00:13:50.000 Here's my view voting in America should not be reliant on podcasters who disagree with one another.
00:13:55.000 Podcasters are just people who are talking on your phone or on your computer.
00:14:00.000 We live in actually very serious times.
00:14:03.000 It is a sign of how frivolously Americans treat politics that they have the capacity to treat the kind of trash that is being spewed by people like Meghan Kelly or Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson as a form of political seriousness. 0.92