00:00:00.000Well, as we have all week, we'll get to the news in a moment.
00:00:02.000All the fallout from the suspension of Jimmy Kimmel, apparently according to left, a significantly more important event in American life than the murder of Charlie Kirk.
00:00:10.000Truly, like the wailing, the gnashing of teeth, the sackcloth and ashes done by every member of the entertainment coterie in the United States, people who are the richest and most famous among us, spending all their days talking about how this is the death of the Republic.
00:00:27.000They did not demonstrate one iota of the same concern about, you know, actual murder for free speech as they are about Jimmy Kimmel being taken off the air in sort of disputed circumstances.
00:00:39.000But I I want to lead the whole week with inspirational news about Charlie and about TP USA.
00:00:46.000So, according to the Daily Wire, Erica Kirk was elected by unanimous vote on Thursday to take over her late husband's role as CEO and board chair of the college campus organization he founded Turning Point USA.
00:00:56.000This, of course, is exactly the right move.
00:01:01.000According to the Turning Point Board, quote, an Ecclesiastes, King Solomon, wrote that mankind is to be tested by God.
00:01:06.000Today we are facing such a test, yet we also know that God has prepared us with everything we need to overcome this ordeal.
00:01:11.000It was the honor of our lives to serve as board members of Charlie's side.
00:01:14.000Charlie prepared all of us for a moment like this one.
00:01:16.000He worked tirelessly to ensure Turning Point USA was built to survive even the greatest test.
00:01:20.000And now it is our great pride to announce Erica Kirk as the new CEO and chair of the Board for Turning Point USA.
00:01:26.000All of us at Turning Point USA have a special role in carrying Charlie Kirk's mantle and completing his vision of bringing us all closer to our Lord and fostering a prosperous country for generations to come.
00:01:34.000As Charlie always said, and we have a country to save.
00:01:36.000We will not surrender or kneel before evil.
00:02:02.000She has an excellent educational background.
00:02:05.000She, of course, was involved with Charlie.
00:02:07.000Charlie, of course, was the driving force behind Turning Point USA, but it's not as though his wife was not involved or unaligned or something.
00:03:15.000And obviously, we at Daily Wire will continue to help TPUSA the best we can.
00:03:19.000Meanwhile, Speaker Johnson is urging a unanimous resolution for a day honoring Charlie Kirk scheduled for his birthday, October 14th.
00:03:28.000In moments like this, when when uh political instability and fear are pervasive, it's incumbent upon leaders to step forward and stand in the breach and do what is right.
00:03:37.000So by voting for this resolution today, we're making a strong statement on behalf of the Congress.
00:03:42.000We're telling our constituents, for one thing, that political violence, but also the glorification and celebration of that violence are profoundly wrong, and that goes against everything we stand for as Americans.
00:03:55.000Charlie stood for exactly the opposite.
00:03:57.000He stood for what was good in America, what is virtuous, what is worthy of protection and preservation.
00:04:03.000And we honor his memory by doing this simple act of passing this resolution.
00:04:08.000I can't imagine that anyone would vote against it or vote present or pretend as though this is not exactly the right thing to do.
00:04:17.000So I certainly hope that we can pass this resolution unanimously today, just as it should be passed.
00:04:22.000So again, all this beautiful tribute to Charlie.
00:04:27.000His memorial is to take place on Sunday in Arizona.
00:04:31.000It's going to be taking place at the football stadium in Phoenix.
00:04:35.000And we're talking like 65,000 people there.
00:04:38.000And what I've heard from the folks over at TP USA is that the reservations were numbering over a quarter million, and that was a couple of days ago, as far as people who wanted to get in.
00:04:47.000I mean, again, the outpouring of love for Charlie is an amazing, amazing thing, and that's the thing that I think that most Americans should be focused on.
00:04:54.000They should be focused on the good that Charlie did and the good that TP USA, the organization that he built, will continue to do under Erica's leadership.
00:05:01.000Joining us online is our White House reporter Mary Margaret Olahan.
00:05:05.000Mary Margaret is going to be going to Charlie Kirk's funeral on Sunday aboard Air Force One with the president of the United States.
00:05:10.000Mary Margaret, thanks for joining the show.
00:05:17.000So obviously it's been an incredibly tough week for an enormous number of people.
00:05:21.000What's the attitude around the White House given the horrifying murder of our friend Charlie Kirk?
00:05:28.000Well, Ben, it has been an incredibly sad week, and I think still here at the White House, if you ask any of these officials or members of the communications team how they're doing, how things are, people respond, not great.
00:05:40.000Uh Charlie was a friend and colleague and even a mentor to many of these people who work here.
00:05:45.000Uh and so it's been incredibly crushing to see how he was killed and to I think experience the aftermath of a lot of this uh aggressively violent rhetoric directed towards a lot of members of the Trump administration.
00:05:59.000Uh you know, we heard only this morning, it was reported by CBS News that Caroline Levitt now has a security detail.
00:06:06.000Now, I I asked the White House about this, they didn't comment further on it.
00:06:10.000Uh but what I can tell you is I have a federal law enforcement source that told me you don't get a security detail unless there's a reason for it, unless there is a threat assessment done to show that you need one.
00:06:20.000Uh and that source also told me that there's a lot of members across the Trump administration, whether they're in uh higher level positions or mid-level positions, lower level positions that are receiving threats as well.
00:06:31.000Um and whether those threats are substantiated, uh, it doesn't really matter.
00:06:35.000They're they're receiving them all across the board, and this is really creating uh a culture of fear uh among a lot of people.
00:06:42.000That being said, these members of the Trump administration are still determined to go to this funeral, they're still going to show their support for their their deceased friend.
00:06:51.000Uh and we're seeing across the board a lot of uh examinations of how safe this event will be.
00:06:57.000Obviously, President Donald Trump will be going, Vice President JD Vance will be going.
00:07:00.000Ben, I know that you'll be in attendance, and I will as well.
00:07:03.000And so this is this is a very serious event, and I'm glad that they're taking security so seriously.
00:07:08.000Uh and it's it's a really sad time, but it will be beautiful for everyone to be gathered in Arizona together and to honor Charlie's memory.
00:07:17.000So, Mary Margaret, obviously we've seen some of the public reports.
00:07:20.000I've talked to some of the people with TPUSA itself about what the event is gonna look like.
00:07:23.000What are you hearing from the White House's perspective about what people can expect on Sunday?
00:07:28.000Yes, so I know that uh Charlie's Charlie's widow, Erica Kirk, is scheduled to speak at the funeral event.
00:07:35.000This is going to be a massive public funeral.
00:07:38.000Uh, I believe the president of the United States is scheduled to speak as well, as well as Shady Vance and other members of the Trump administration and conservative hosts or commentators who were close with Charlie to honor his memory.
00:07:50.000Uh I'll be flying in with the president uh and other reporters, members of the White House press pool on Sunday.
00:07:59.000I'm seeing TPUSA commentators like my friend Alex Clark.
00:08:03.000She's urging as many people as possible to go to this event.
00:08:07.000The dress code is red, white, and blue, Sunday best, but red, white, and blue.
00:08:11.000And Alex, as I saw her encouraging online, she said, even if you can't get into the event, even if it's completely full, I want you in the streets.
00:08:19.000I want everyone in red, white, and blue.
00:08:21.000I want this to be bigger than a Taylor Swift concert, bigger than the Super Bowl.
00:08:24.000Uh and so there you're seeing a lot of emotion like this, support from people who worked with him who are close with him to encourage as many people as possible to come out and honor his memory.
00:08:36.000I I hope that we see the stadium packed for Charlie and that security is tight and that everyone can honor his memory uh as the great man who he was.
00:08:47.000Well, it's Mary Margaret Olahan, our White House reporter, Mary Margaret, really appreciate it, and obviously I'll see you on Sunday to celebrate the life and legacy of Charlie Kirk.
00:09:18.000And honestly, obviously I I feel the exact same way.
00:09:25.000There are many on the left who did not feel the exact same way.
00:09:27.000There are many on the left who felt like, you know, just another day in America, or it's just a gun violence act, or even well, I mean, he did have some views I don't particularly like.
00:09:38.000With that said, the outpouring for Jimmy Kimmel is overwhelming.
00:11:12.000Meanwhile, when it came to that 25 to 54 demographic, Gutfeld was averaging 381,000 people compared to 261,000 for Kimmel, meaning that Gutfeld was ahead of him by 46%.
00:11:24.000So it is quite possible, frankly, that a bunch of local affiliates were just done, that they were just done with Jimmy Kimmel.
00:11:31.000And when Jimmy Kimmel decided that he was going to go on air and heavily suggest that the shooter of Charlie Kirk was in fact a MAGA conservative, that they'd had it.
00:11:41.000Many of these station owners, remember the way that this works is that many of the local stations are not owned directly by ABC.
00:11:46.000They are owned by local television networks or by consortiums like Sinclair.
00:11:52.000So Sinclair broadcasting happens to be conservative in its orientation politically.
00:11:56.000The ownership of Sinclair is conservative.
00:11:58.000There's been longtime rumors of Sinclair trying to launch its own form of Fox News, essentially, with its own lineup and all the rest.
00:12:06.000So it is perfectly plausible that Sinclair looked at what Jimmy Kimmel said and they said, you know what, we're done.
00:12:11.000In fact, Sinclair said that his suspension by ABC was insufficient.
00:12:15.000What happened is the local affiliates went to ABC.
00:12:18.000They said we don't want him on the air, and ABC responded by basically saying, well, I mean, if like half of our affiliates don't want you on the air, we're just going to suspend your show, because what else are we going to do?
00:12:26.000We have to provide them some programming.
00:12:28.000Well, Sinclair announced it would yank Jimmy Kimmel live from its stations until the host apologized it directly to Charlie Kirk's family and also donated to TP USA, which of course is not going to happen.
00:12:38.000The company vowed not to return Kimmel's show until formal discussions are held with ABC regarding the network's commitment to professionalism and accountability.
00:12:47.000Meanwhile, Nextstar, they also, they were the biggest network to say that they were not interested, the network of affiliates to say they weren't interested in Jimmy Kimmel.
00:12:56.000When this happened, apparently, Jimmy Kimmel had been planning to double down on his remarks.
00:13:03.000Like the reason he was pulled abruptly is because he was planning the night after that show on doing another monologue where he ripped into MAGA.
00:13:12.000According to the New York Post, late night host Jimmy Kimmel said he was unwilling to apologize for his remarks that blamed MAGA supporters for killing conservative activist Charlie Kirk.
00:13:20.000He said he was going to double down on attacking President Trump's backers before he was yanked from the air, according to new reports.
00:13:25.000Kimmel learned in a phone call from Top Disney exec Dana Walden on Wednesday afternoon that his show Was being removed indefinitely, according to deadline.
00:13:32.000During that call, Kimmel reportedly refused to comply with calls from critics and owners of a dozens of ABC affiliate stations for him to apologize.
00:13:39.000Kimmel felt his remarks required no apologies.
00:13:42.000Apparently, he also claimed he was planning to call out his critics for the latest attacks on him, all while trying to clarify his comments about Kirk's death.
00:13:50.000He says that his comments were mischaracterized.
00:13:53.000Disney felt that if Kimmel had doubled down on his MAGA comments, the company would have been forced to go beyond suspending him and they would just have to fire him.
00:14:01.000It's still unclear if he's willing to return after this suspension at all.
00:14:05.000All right, in a moment, we will get to Jimmy Kimmel, why he was actually fired.
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00:16:28.000Okay, so just from that fact pattern, it appears that the reason that Kimmel was taken off the air is because of organic outrage by viewers, which filtered up to affiliates, and those affiliates went to Disney and ABC, and they said we are not interested in having Jimmy Kimmel on our air.
00:16:43.000And he responded by saying, I'm going to double down and attack your viewers.
00:16:46.000So, as a matter of sort of organic market blowback to crap programming, totally legit.
00:16:53.000And in fact, not unprecedented in any way, shape, or form.
00:17:00.000It happened most prominently, actually right after September 11th when Bill Maher was suspended from the air because Bill Maher made some comments about 9-11 that people didn't like.
00:17:08.000And then of course he found his new home over on HBO.
00:17:11.000Well, Money's the Waters here are the words of the FCC chairman, Brendan Carr.
00:17:16.000Because Brendan Carr went on Benny Johnson and suggested, right before the affiliates apparently went to Disney and ABC, that there might be regulation, there might be punishment for affiliates for putting out the Jimmy Kimmel show.
00:17:28.000And that raised the specter of government involvement.
00:17:30.000As I said yesterday, as an organic matter, Jimmy Kimmel should have been kicked off the air 10 years ago.
00:17:55.000But that said, the FCC should not be in the business of telling Local affiliates what they should and should not broadcast.
00:18:02.000So why don't we begin this discussion about what the FCC can and should do by finding out what exactly they have the legal power to do?
00:18:10.000So I asked my sponsors over at Comet Browser by Perplexity.
00:18:14.000What powers does the FCC have to regulate actual content over the airwaves?
00:18:17.000And according to Comet, the FCC's powers to regulate actual content over the airwaves are significantly limited by the First Amendment.
00:18:23.000It does have authority in certain areas, specifically regarding obscenity, indecency, and profanity, as well as public interest and disclosure requirements for broadcasters.
00:18:32.000The FCC is strictly limited in censoring broadcast material and cannot impose content-based restrictions that would curb specific viewpoints.
00:18:42.000Public interest requirements are about broadcast licenses.
00:18:45.000They're awarded based on whether stations, quote, serve the public interest, convenience, and necessity, which is interpreted to include equal opportunities for political candidates, disclosure of sponsorship for political or commercial content, prohibition of lottery advertising, and rules against broadcast news distortion if it involves deliberate manipulation of significant facts.
00:19:02.000So the case that Brendan Carr would make is that basically Jimmy Kimmel was deliberately manipulating significant facts, and so the FCC can go after him.
00:19:11.000The problem, of course, is that the thing that we have learned here over and over and over again is that if a left-wing person is at the head of the FCC, they will simply accuse the right wing of deliberate manipulation of significant facts.
00:19:22.000And so what's good for the goose is good for the gander here, which is why the actual solution here would be to remove that capacity from the FCC.
00:19:32.000Will Republicans will Democrats will anyone support that?
00:19:36.000Here is the beautiful thing about a government of enumerated powers.
00:19:39.000A government of enumerated powers is a government you don't have to fear as much.
00:19:43.000Because if you're on the wrong side of the government, the government still can't do anything to you because it has enumerated powers.
00:19:48.000So if you reduce the power of government in this area entirely, that seems to me a better solution than a race to the bottom where every prior norm gets broken.
00:19:59.000And I fully understand the mutually assured destruction argument.
00:20:05.000But I think that what we're getting into now is not mutually assured destruction, but assumption that the that the next go-around, they will destroy you, so you should just destroy them preemptively.
00:20:14.000And if that happens, then basically there's no reason for anybody to go weapons down.
00:20:20.000Again, it all remains unclear as to why this actually happened.
00:20:23.000There's a long account in the Wall Street Journal about how this happened.
00:20:28.000Kimmel criticized how Trump and other Republicans responded to the shooting and suggested the shooter was in fact a MAGA Republican.
00:20:35.000Brendan Carr suggested during a podcast appearance two days later, the FCC could take action against the broadcast licenses of ABC owned stations.
00:20:42.000Advertisers and affiliates soon called the network expressing concern about Kimmel's show.
00:20:46.000Executives at Sinclair and Nextar, owners of more than 60 local ABC stations, told network leaders after Carr's remarks they would indefinitely preempt the show starting that night, moves that would hobble the program's reach.
00:20:59.000So, again, how much was the FCC part of this conversation?
00:21:08.000Next star is currently being regulated by the FCC.
00:21:12.000They need the FCC's sign-off on their $6.2 billion acquisition of techno.
00:21:16.000And it needs the agency to ease rules that currently limit the percentage a broadcaster can reach to 39% of the nation's TV households.
00:21:24.000Now, Nextstar put out a statement, they said it had nothing to do with the government.
00:21:27.000Quote, the decision to preempt Jimmy Kimmel Live was made unilaterally by the senior executive team at Next Star.
00:21:31.000They had no communication with the FCC or any government agency prior to making that decision.
00:21:37.000Apparently, ABC scrambled to satisfy advertisers who paid for commercials to run on episodes that were canceled.
00:21:44.000Advertising buyers said they would likely shift ad dollars committed to Kimmel's show to other programs, some considered asking for their money back.
00:21:54.000So the question remains as to whether this was a reaction to Kimmel being bad at his job and saying bad things, or whether, in fact, this was a reaction to the FCC.
00:22:04.000And that's the open question at this point.
00:22:06.000FCC Commissioner Anna Gomez, she said, listen, we actually do not have the authority to retaliate against broadcasters, and so talk of us doing this is is sloppy.
00:22:16.000The thing that we need to understand is that the FCC cannot.
00:22:21.000It does not have the authority, it does not have the ability, it does not have the constitutional right to take action against broadcasters because the administration doesn't like what they're saying, because they don't like anyone that pushes back against them.
00:22:43.000Because we don't have the authority to do this, because it's against the law, we would not be able to actually take that final action.
00:22:52.000Because on appeal, the FCC would be wrong on the facts in the law, if in fact it retaliated against the network.
00:22:59.000So I mean the broadcasters, the local licensees, because of what they air.
00:23:05.000Okay, that doesn't change the math, meaning that yes, the FCC probably could not do what Brendan Carr had sort of suggested.
00:23:12.000However, if you're next star, I mean, this is just a steel man the opposing case.
00:23:16.000If you're next star and you're under the possibility of merger, and you want to make sure sure that the merger doesn't get shut down, you want to please the FCC, and the way to please the FCC is to do the FCC's bidding.
00:23:25.000Now, again, it seems to me that there's a perfectly good organic case for canceling Jimmy Kimmel's show or suspending Jimmy Kimmel's show based on ratings, based on the fact that he says schmucky things all the time, based on the fact that he's bad at his job.
00:23:36.000And that's a point that the FCC's Brendan Carr made.
00:23:38.000He said Kimmel was losing viewers faster than Carr, who is bald, loses hair.
00:23:44.000I think the last couple of decades you've seen the FCC really step back from enforcing the public interest standard, and I don't think that that's a good thing.
00:23:51.000Just look at the trust in national mainstream media.
00:23:54.000I mean, it's just in an absolute nosedive.
00:23:56.000And look at the ratings for people like Jimmy Kimmel.
00:23:59.000I mean, they are going away, their audience and their viewers faster than uh than my hair's gone away from the top of my head.
00:24:10.000But when he says that he is going to go after others, now you start to build a narrative just politically.
00:24:17.000You're building there's two questions here.
00:24:18.000Should the FCC get involved in this way?
00:24:20.000And even if the FCC is not involved in this way, should they be promulgating a narrative that can be used by the left to make the claim that the Trump administration is acting irresponsibly or an authoritarian manner with regard to speech.
00:24:33.000If the narrative takeaway from the murder of Charlie Kirk turns from there is a systemic left-wing threat embedded in actual ideologies, a violent threat that emerges from the sewers of certain ideologies, and that needs to be fought both socially and insofar as it is possible with governmental power.
00:24:54.000If it shifts from that narrative to the Trump administration is trying to shut down the view, that is a giant fail.
00:25:04.000Because the sympathy for Charlie is nationwide.
00:25:07.000Again, there's widespread sympathy for Charlie, obviously, for his family, and there should be.
00:25:12.000And there's widespread outrage at the attack on free speech it represents when somebody gets shot for debating.
00:25:19.000If somehow that narrative is turned into a narrative about the Trump administration actually shutting down free speech, that's that's a fail.
00:25:33.000Jimmy Kimmel is terrible and should be off the air.
00:25:35.000Charlie Kirk was a warrior for free speech who was shot.
00:25:38.000That is significantly worse than Jimmy Kimmel being taken off the air.
00:25:42.000Also, the FCC should not be threatening various broadcasters and hosts with governmental consequences for speech.
00:25:52.000And they shouldn't even appear to be doing that.
00:25:54.000Even if that's not the reason why people are acting, it muddies the waters.
00:25:58.000Again, there's an easy way to tell whether you're being ideologically coherent on this.
00:26:01.000If the shoe were on the other foot, if a left-wing politician had been shot, or a left-wing activist had been shot by somebody associated with the right, and Barack Obama were president or Joe Biden were president, and they'd activated their FCC to go after local Fox affiliates, for example, to go after talk radio, which is also public airwaves.
00:26:23.000Would the right sit back and say, well, you know, you know.
00:26:28.000This is why the solution to lack of trust between the right and the left is not the use of government to effectuate more power in general.
00:26:37.000The solution to that lack of trust is for the government to step back and effectuate less power.
00:26:44.000The Trump administration going after Antifa, going after the people who fund Antifa, going after the people who fund various violent groups around that that is not only that is only good, that is necessary.
00:26:57.000But this narrative that the left is starting to spin up is bad.
00:26:59.000Now, again, the Left is overdoing it on its own, right?
00:27:01.000So many things being true at once, as we'll get to, the left has decided that this is the greatest assault on American free speech in American history, which is totally crazy considering a man was shot to death for doing free speech one week ago.
00:27:14.000And they seem to care much more about Jimmy Kimmel being taken off the air than Charlie Kirk being murdered live on TV.
00:27:23.000Here's the FCC's Brendan Carr saying that we'll they will hold broadcasters accountable to the public interest.
00:27:29.000Look, we're gonna continue to hold these broadcasters accountable to the public interest.
00:27:34.000And if broadcasters don't like that, simple solution.
00:27:37.000They can turn their license into the FCC.
00:27:39.000There's other things that we can do with it that would serve the national interest, and frankly, other people would want to use this spectrum, but we're gonna continue to make clear that we're holding broadcasters accountable to the public interest.
00:27:49.000And again, I think that's gonna be a really good thing for the country.
00:27:52.000Again, people can go on podcasts and go on cable shows like this.
00:27:54.000You don't have a license from the FCC.
00:27:56.000Uh so there's a lot more they can do there.
00:27:58.000There's no public interest obligation on those outlets.
00:28:02.000Okay, again, the idea here should be that we should just deregulate.
00:28:06.000The FCC actually should not have the power to do local broadcast licenses to regulate speech on the on those broadcasters.
00:28:14.000It was one thing to say that, by the way, before the era of the internet, when basically you had a limited spectrum, and the only things that got on TV were those local stations.
00:28:24.000I'd make the case we should have deregulated long before that, but this is a vestigial organ of a broadcast television infrastructure that no longer applies to the general informational consumption of the American people.
00:28:35.000But the reason that, again, I'm objecting to this is because the narrative that you're laying out for the left and you are the narrative you're laying out for the left or providing the impetus to is the narrative that the Trump administration is anti free speech in the aftermath of the murder of a free speech martyr.
00:28:50.000To blow that opportunity is a is a giant fail.
00:28:54.000The FCC's Brandon Carr, he said yesterday that maybe he would go after the view.
00:28:59.000Now, listen, there is no one in America who would be happy, no one who'd be happier to watch the view go off the air than I. The view is a bunch of shrieking harpies who are unbelievably stupid, vicious, venal, annoying, herodons, jabbering at each other nonsensically to the clapter of train seals in the audience.
00:29:37.000It was equal time rules, by the way, that restricted back in the 1980s the ability of Republicans to get out their messages via the airwaves.
00:29:44.000Here is Brennan Carr with Scott Jennings talking about this.
00:29:50.000You could make the argument that the view is a bona fide news show, but I'm not so sure about that.
00:29:54.000And I think it's worthwhile uh to have the FCC look into whether the view uh and some of these other programs that you have still qualify as bona fide news programs and therefore exempt from the equal opportunity regime that Congress has put in place.
00:30:14.000Okay, well, I mean, why are you just giving the talking point to the other side?
00:31:05.000But instead, we're now gonna have a conversation about hate speech, which again, Republicans have opposed that idea for my entire lifetime because it is malleable.
00:31:13.000Yes, of course, there is some speech that is more hateful than other speech, but that is a malleable definition that can be applied to everything.
00:31:19.000The left was trying to say that's what Charlie was doing was hate speech and regulated out of existence.
00:31:25.000So here's President Trump saying that maybe Brandon Carr will go after others.
00:31:54.000President Trump was then on with Martha McCallum.
00:31:59.000This is an interview that's supposed to be broadcast on Sunday.
00:32:02.000And in one of the clips released from the interview, he started talking about hate speech.
00:32:06.000And Martha McCallum made the quite proper point that Charlie Kirk didn't believe in the concept of hate speech, because, you know, my entire lifetime, the right has not believed in the concept of hate speech, given, again, that hate speech is a malleable term that can be applied to anything you don't like.
00:32:20.000And the president, instead of recognizing that point, then said, well, maybe Charlie would have changed his mind given what happened to him.
00:32:32.000Because the person who shot him was claiming that Charlie was quote unquote hateful.
00:32:36.000The very concept of hate speech is a dangerous concept because it assumes that any speech I don't like can be labeled hate and therefore regulated out of existence.
00:32:44.000The president of the United States sat down with Martha McCallum over at Fox News, and she asked him about hate speech.
00:32:51.000Charlie said, you know, that there was no such thing as hate speech.
00:32:55.000Um he obviously, you know, no one anticipated what happened to Charlie.
00:33:00.000But you have always been saying he might not believe that, you know, anymore.
00:33:10.000Like a couple of days ago, the presidents of the United States brought the topic of hate speech came up because Pam Bondi, the attorney general, idiotically suggested that she was going to prosecute hate speech and then sort of walked it back.
00:33:19.000Well, the president was heading to the UK, this is a few days ago, and he was asked about hate speech, and he labeled, and he he he said that ABC News had engaged in a form of hate speech.
00:33:33.000Now, the president of the United States sued ABC News for having selectively edited a Kamala Harris interview.
00:34:06.000Well, ABC paid me $16 million recently for a form of hate speech, right?
00:34:12.000Your company paid me $16 million for a form of hate speech.
00:34:16.000So maybe they'll have to go after you.
00:34:20.000And this follows upon the president filing a $15 billion defamation lawsuit against the New York Times, claiming that the paper is a full-throated mouthpiece of the Democratic Party.
00:34:30.000The suit points to three articles and a malicious, defamatory, and disparaging book.
00:34:35.000And it points to the editorial board's endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris in the 2024 election.
00:34:42.000So again, having looked at the lawsuit, I do not think that lawsuit's gonna go very far.
00:34:48.000But regardless of whether you think that it's good or bad or whatever, the bottom line is this.
00:34:54.000In the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination, the murder of Charlie Kirk by a left-wing radical gay man in a relationship with a furry trans.
00:35:07.000In the aftermath of that, if the narrative that comes after that is not violent leftist groups must be found, rooted out and destroyed, that their funders must be ferreted out and prosecuted, that permission structures on the social level for violent ideologies must be removed.
00:35:29.000If that's not the narrative coming out of Charlie's assassination, and the narrative instead is we need to go after using governmental power.
00:35:36.000Not so, again, not social sanction, which is fine.
00:35:52.000Now, the good news for the Trump administration and the Republicans is that the backlash from people on the left is so overwrought and insane in its in its size and scope that it may obliterate the very point that they are trying to make.
00:36:05.000Already coming up, I want to get some things the government actually should be focused on, other than like Jimmy Kimmel, if that's what they're focused on.
00:36:11.000They should be focused on, you know, violent left-wing groups actually doing acts of violence first.
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00:38:12.000John Stewart did a special weekday break in.
00:38:16.000So he hasn't been broadcasting more than once a week.
00:38:18.000And he decided that he was going to break into the Daily Show, right?
00:38:22.000He was going to, he was going to just do a special episode.
00:38:24.000Now, notice no special episode from John Stewart last week after Charlie was actually killed.
00:38:30.000No special episode about the importance of free speech after a person he disagreed with was shot to death in front of 3,000 people and countless others on the internet.
00:40:34.000for 23 minutes into this routine, the lady doth protest too much.
00:40:37.000Stephen Colbert then came out and said, We are all Jimmy Kimmel.
00:40:40.000And what he really means is I am Jimmy Kimmel.
00:40:42.000Okay, now, even if Jimmy Kimmel, if it turns out that he was taken off the air because of FCC pressure, which again I think is very, very doubtful, just on the merits.
00:40:50.000Even if that were the case, Stephen Colbert was not taken off the air because of Trump administration pressure.
00:40:56.000In fact, here is the ex-paramount chief Sherry Redstone pointing out that Stephen Colbert's cancellation had literally nothing to do with anything governmentally related.
00:41:06.000I'm not going to tie any of that to regulatory approval.
00:41:10.000I can tell you that we had been looking at late night.
00:42:26.000You know, I think the best solution for all of this is to remove the power of the FCC to regulate content.
00:42:32.000That would be a, I think a good solution.
00:42:34.000But in the absence of that, in the absence of that, again, the left the left protesting about this after spending, you know, 60 years using the FCC to crack down its own on its own political opposition, is a little bit strained.
00:44:05.000So, again, one of the great tragedies of our time, according to the left, Jimmy Kimmel being removed from the air under disputed circumstances, Mark Merrin doing the same thing.
00:44:18.000Jimmy Kimmel has been muzzled and taken off the air by his network ABC, who are buckling to and trying to appease the next R media conglomerate, who have a lot of affiliates, and they threatened to preempt him at the suggestion of the FEC chair.
00:45:10.000It's so overwrought, Mark Merrin, so overwrought.
00:45:13.000Um, I mean, you can hear the jackboots at the door there about to break it down and arrest Mark Marin for that, for that for that absolutely anti-authoritarian tire tribe.
00:45:21.000Or maybe he's, you know, like just living his normal life today, because we actually don't live in an authoritarian country.
00:45:26.000And by the way, a court is very likely to intervene if in fact there is a lawsuit, and it turns out that the FCC improperly used its power against Jimmy Kimmel or now, again, I think there might in fact be a case that the FCC did not even necessarily improperly use its power on a legal level, but this is why the FCC should not have that power in the first place.
00:45:43.000Again, I'm old enough to remember when Republicans oppose the fairness doctrine, because the fairness doctrine was an attempt to stop right-wing opinions from being disseminated.
00:45:52.000And at a certain point, there's a difference between saying we need to use the rules against you, the way you use them against us, so that we can all stop using those rules and instead create a new system of rules.
00:46:03.000There's a difference between that and saying, you broke the rules, I'm gonna break the rules even further.
00:46:08.000I'm gonna hit you, and you're gonna hit me.
00:46:14.000David Letterman emerged from his house in the woods, where I assume he's only writing unibomber journals to uh to go to the vaunted Atlantic festival to talk about how this is criminal, an authoritarian administration.
00:46:28.000Again, this is the maybe it'll you know, maybe it'll work for them.
00:46:31.000It seems to me it's so overwrought it won't.
00:46:34.000This is one of my one of the critiques I'm making here is there is no reason for the Trump administration to have even given this issue to the Democrats in any way.
00:46:56.000The man deserves a great deal of credit.
00:46:58.000He's in the Hall of Fame nine times, and to be manipulated like that because the uh the Ellison family uh didn't want to uh trouble Donald Trump with this move, so they got rid of him, not only got rid of him, got rid of the whole franchise.
00:47:12.000You're not gonna have to worry about anything, Larry.
00:47:16.000And then my good friend Jimmy Kimmel, I, you know, I just uh I feel bad about this because uh it uh we all see where this is going, correct?
00:47:25.000It's managed media, and uh it's no good.
00:47:29.000It's silly, it's rid it's ridiculous, and you can't go around firing somebody because you're fearful or trying to suck up to an authoritarian uh criminal uh administration in the Oval Office.
00:47:47.000So this is going to be the unified democratic claim.
00:47:50.000That that that's exactly what is happening, that this is uh a fascist authoritarian takeover.
00:47:55.000Chris Murphy, the senator from Connecticut, who for some weird reason believes that he is going to run for president.
00:48:01.000He says that this is about Trump silencing his political opponents, and then he actually says that people should take to the streets.
00:48:06.000There should basically be giant protests in favor of Jimmy Kimmel.
00:48:09.000Yeah, good luck with that one, my dude.
00:48:11.000Donald Trump, in the wake of uh the tragic murder of Charlie Kirk, has decided to exploit uh that tragedy to try to silence his political opponents.
00:48:40.000Understands the gravity of this moment.
00:48:43.000This is a moment for the country to mobilize.
00:48:45.000This is a moment for all of us to be out on the streets protesting because if you don't raise your voices right now about the assault on free speech, about Donald Trump's decision to disgustingly exploit the murder of Charlie Kirk so as to try to permanently render um powerless and impotent those who politically oppose him.
00:49:07.000Um there may be no democracy to save uh a year from now.
00:49:14.000It feels like the red alert has been on since January.
00:49:17.000Um, but the days are getting darker, which means the obligation on us to stand up and mobilize um is getting more urgent.
00:49:27.000Now, on a broad level, it may not work.
00:49:28.000This is this kind of sort of democratic authoritarian op.
00:49:31.000It may not work specifically because the Democrats were for, you know, solidly a couple of decades here, quite authoritarian in their approach to things like speech.
00:49:38.000We we all remember the woke revolutions, where if you didn't post the black square, then you were in danger of losing your job.
00:49:44.000We all remember Barack Obama using the law to spy on James Rosen, the Associated Press journalist.
00:49:51.000We remember Joe Biden using the power of the government to crack down on major social media companies in order to get them to mirror his political priors.
00:50:00.000We all remember Alexander Ocasio-Cortez calling for more censorship.
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00:53:48.000Well, meanwhile, thinking of things the Trump administration can do, as I've been saying, they should be focused like a laser directly on left-wing violent groups.
00:53:56.000But the evidence tends to show in the case of the assassination of Charlie Kirk is that the assassin was coordinating with people on Discord about what he was going to do.
00:54:05.000That's what the evidence seems to show.
00:54:06.000There were people who are putting out posts that they later deleted, predicting that Charlie would be murdered on the day that he was murdered, a month in advance.
00:54:13.000That investigation has to be done, obviously.
00:54:16.000And we know that there are these violent left-wing groups that have basically gone without much law enforcement scrutiny for whatever reason that needs to stop.
00:54:23.000According to the Daily Wire Luke Rosiak reporting, a 10,000 member strong group called the Socialist Rifle Association has been conducting weapons training for transgender and Marxist Leninist extremists, and its members have been linked to at least four major crimes, including the firebombing of Tesla dealerships, a Daily Wire investigation found.
00:54:39.000Members stuck up on assault rifles and tactical gear like gas masks and received membership cars bearing an image of Karl Marx and the quote, any attempt to disarm workers must be frustrated by force if necessary.
00:54:49.000Videos show them preparing for engagements that look more like war than self-defense, running through the woods and hitting long-range targets.
00:54:55.000A common logo is the transgender flag with an assault rifle and the phrase, defend equality.
00:55:00.000SRA members say that their interest is to defend against fascists and Nazis, but according to court documents, they applied those labels loosely, citing incidents like the January 6th Capitol protest where guns were largely absent as a reason to prepare for war.
00:55:12.000Apparently, the SRA has a chapter in Utah where Charlie was murdered.
00:55:15.000It advertises, quote, inclusive firearms education with a rainbow-colored target and the tagline women-friendly, BIPOC friendly, queer-friendly.
00:55:22.000One of its posters says, quote, I will die fighting for this cause.
00:55:25.000A quote attributed to John Brown, a radical abolitionist who was murdered by the capitalist slave-owning class.
00:55:30.000On June 19th, the Utah chapter asked members to support Arturo Gamboa, an anti-racist accused of murder.
00:55:37.000Apparently, the chapter and SRA's national headquarters told the Daily Wire that Tyler Robinson, who's been charged with murdering Charlie, was not a member, but they did not answer whether his transgender identifying boyfriend Lance Twiggs was, citing their own confidentiality policies.
00:55:51.000The SRA Reddit thread falsely claimed years ago that Charlie was openly calling for the lynching of transgender individuals.
00:55:58.000After Kirk was assassinated, SRA members mocked him, expressed enthusiasm and wish that the man who shot President Trump had similar marksmanship.
00:56:07.000There are a number of crimes that have been linked to SRA members.
00:56:11.000On July 4th, a group of militants allegedly swarmed law enforcement at nice facility in Alvarado, Texas, and opened fire at the unarmed DHS correctional officers.
00:56:19.000One of them, Benjamin Hanel Song, is charged with shooting a police officer in the neck.
00:56:23.000Song was a member of the SRA's Dallas Fort Worth chapter, a fellow group member, told KERA.
00:56:29.000Of the 10 co-defendants charged with attempted murder of a federal officer, at least two claimed to be transgender.
00:56:35.000Authorities recovered nine firearms in the home, where one of them lived with six other transgenders.
00:56:40.000On March 18th in Las Vegas, Paul High and Kim set on fire and shot up five Teslas, leaving a multiple cocktail inside one, according to charging documents.
00:56:48.000The court papers said that this person had an Instagram page where he followed the SRA's page.
00:56:53.000On January 20th, the day that Donald Trump was sworn in as president, Adam Matthew Lansky allegedly threw mollet of cocktails at a Tesla dealership in Salem, Oregon.
00:57:01.000Lansky is a competitive shooter and a former member of the SRA, according to prosecutors.
00:57:06.000In October 2021, Daniel Allen Baker of Florida was sentenced to 44 months in prison for threats.
00:57:11.000After the pro-Trump Capitol protest on January 6th, 2021, Baker offered cash rewards for information leading to the verified identification of every individual in this video.
00:57:20.000Don't worry, I won't be going to the cops.
00:57:21.000We have decided to handle this ourselves.
00:57:26.000Apparently, he told prosecutors who's a member of the SRA.
00:57:31.000Apparently, the SRA was incorporated in Kansas in 2019 by Alexander Tackett, who later began identifying as a woman named Alex Norma Tackett.
00:57:39.000A website for a queer bookstore he owned said, quote, Lilith, it she and Alex Tackett, she it, are a trans lesbian couple living in Wichita with their six-year-old son, which is just wonderful.
00:57:50.000Its co-founder was Faye Ecklar, who explained, quote, I believe firearms ownership is necessary because as a transgender socialist, half the country wants me dead, and the other half is happy to watch.
00:57:59.000Plus, the means of production won't seize themselves.
00:58:01.000This is why we say that there are violent ideologies.
00:58:03.000Yes, there certainly are, and they are attached to violent groups.
00:58:07.000Meanwhile, a new report from Ryan Morrow over at Capital Research says that since 2016, George Soros's open society foundations, now run with his son Alexander, has poured over 80 million dollars into groups tied to terrorism or extremist violence.
00:58:22.000Open society sent millions of dollars into U.S. based organizations that engage in quote unquote direct actions the FBI defines as domestic terrorism.
00:58:29.000Those groups include the Center for Third World Organizing and its militant partner Ruckus Society, which trained activists in property destruction and sabotage during the 2020 riots, and the Sunrise Movement, which endorsed the Antifa-linked stop Cop City campaign, in which activists currently face over 40 domestic terrorism charges and 60 racketeering indictments.
00:58:47.000At the same time, open society awarded $18 million to the Movement for Black Lives, a group that co-authored a radical guide glorifying the Hamas October 7th massacre, and instructs activists on the use of false IDs, blockades, and economic disruption.
00:58:59.000Open society is also funneled more than 2.3 million dollars into a Hawk, an NGO based in the West Bank in Israel, and long accused of ties to the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.
00:59:10.000In September 2025, the State Department sanctioned Al Haq, citing its role in advancing campaigns that quote directly engage in the ICC's illegitimate targeting of Israel.
00:59:20.000So there are things for law enforcement to do.
00:59:22.000There are things for law enforcement to investigate.
00:59:24.000And that is where we should be able to find unity.
00:59:26.000Violation of the law is where we should be looking.
01:01:02.000When people are like, oh, you know, crime is terrible, and yes, it is, right?
01:01:06.000Like, because when somebody goes out and commits a crime, they don't typically, you know, say, well, I'm a D or I'm a R, I'm an I. It's not like literally like it's about, well, how do you fix it?
01:01:18.000And I do think that I'm in a unique situation because I was having the conversations with people that were going out and committing crimes.
01:01:27.000And so I understood what was kind of pushing them there.
01:01:32.000And so I do want people to know that just because someone has committed a crime, it doesn't make them a criminal.
01:01:52.000Deep thoughts there from Jasmine Crockett.
01:01:55.000Well, apparently Democrats want to lose elections.
01:01:57.000Uh it's amazing, but apparently this is a thing they would like to do.
01:02:01.000Speaking of suicidal democratic policy, apparently Democrats now want to do a government shutdown, which is going to work out very poorly for them.
01:02:07.000The Republicans are pushing forward with basically a clean CR, a seven-week continuing resolution that continues to fund the government at its current levels.
01:02:14.000And Democrats senators say that unless Republicans scrap their plan to advance it, they don't see any option other than defeating it as a way to send a message to President Trump and then trigger a shutdown.
01:02:26.000Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer has been taking flag from his left flank for his failure to go along with the government shutdown earlier this year.
01:02:33.000One Democratic senator says Donald Trump gave us the finger.
01:02:46.000The party would likely need at least eight votes to help Republicans reach the 60 votes necessary to move a Senate legislation forward.
01:02:52.000Senator Rand Paul, who of course votes against everything, says he's going to vote against the CR.
01:02:56.000Apparently, there are a bunch of Democratic senators who are not going to vote for the shutdown.
01:03:00.000That includes the only sane Democratic Senator left, John Fetterman from Pennsylvania, Jean Shaheen of New Hampshire, Maggie Hassan in New Hampshire, Catherine Cortez Masto in Nevada, Jackie Rosen in Nevada, and Angus King in Maine, by the way, all of them in swing states, you will notice.
01:03:14.000Because they understand that it is repeated that it's poison for them to do this politically speaking.
01:03:18.000Meanwhile, Speaker Johnson says that they will, in fact, pass the CR.