The Ben Shapiro Show - The End Of America? | Ep. 1022

00:00:00.000 Rioters loot, criminals run over, police officers with cars, and President Trump declares he'll unleash the military if chaos continues.

00:00:06.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:00:20.000 Well, chaos continued last night because, once again, our government has failed to protect you, the law-abiding, tax-paying citizen.

00:00:27.000 It is apparently better to be a rioter and looter in major American cities than it is to be a law-abiding citizen.

00:00:31.000 If you were law-abiding, you were locked in your home.

00:00:33.000 At sunset last night in Los Angeles, curfew went into effect at variously either 5 p.m.

00:00:37.000 or 6 p.m.

00:00:38.000 last night.

00:00:39.000 And apparently, this is all okay.

00:00:41.000 It's all okay because, after all, the protests are legitimate and their outrage is legitimate.

00:00:46.000 Now, you can believe that protesters who are exercising their First Amendment rights in law-abiding ways are doing something perfectly American.

00:00:53.000 You can even agree with the agenda of the protesters with regard to police brutality.

00:00:57.000 And even if you disagree on their broader agenda, which is that America is endemically racist and that America has to be Remade from top to bottom.

00:01:04.000 You can still agree that obviously them out marching, that's an aspect of Americanism that is quite good.

00:01:09.000 Okay, but that does not mean that you have to believe that rioting and looting ought to be allowed to roam our major cities.

00:01:14.000 And the attempt by the media to conflate the rioters and the looters and the protesters is absolutely insane.

00:01:19.000 They're doing it for political purposes.

00:01:21.000 And it is hard not to believe that some members of the media are not thrilled with the amount of conflict that is being generated here.

00:01:27.000 Because how else could you possibly explain the takes that are happening in the media?

00:01:31.000 I mean, it's nearly impossible to explain without some sense that people are excited by the possibility that this is going to be the tip of the spear in breaking down the old ways in America, in remaking America in some new unspecified way.

00:01:45.000 So last night, here's how events went.

00:01:46.000 You can, again, the media coverage of this is absolutely insane.

00:01:49.000 Last night, the big story was not President Trump going to a church.

00:01:53.000 Last night, the big story was that there was mass looting in New York City.

00:01:57.000 Mass looting in New York City.

00:01:59.000 There were police officers shot or run over around the country.

00:02:02.000 Okay, that is the big story this morning.

00:02:06.000 In the valley in Los Angeles, there were people who were ransacking Van Nuys.

00:02:10.000 In New York City, people were literally just taking cars to stores, hopping out of cars, breaking into the stores, and stealing everything while the cops were being limited by Mayor Bill de Blasio, who's just terrible at his job in every possible way that it is possible to be terrible at his job.

00:02:26.000 According to the Washington Post, four police officers were shot early on Tuesday in St.

00:02:30.000 Louis.

00:02:31.000 Police said in a tweet, all four officers remained conscious and breathing before being taken away from the scene.

00:02:35.000 The St.

00:02:35.000 Louis Metropolitan Police Department said the officers were taken to a nearby hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.

00:02:41.000 They were standing near a line, all of a sudden they felt pain, said St.

00:02:43.000 Louis Police Chief John Hayden.

00:02:44.000 He said two officers were shot in the leg, one was shot in the foot, one was shot in the arm.

00:02:48.000 Police had not identified a suspected shooter or made any arrests as of early Tuesday.

00:02:53.000 Also, there was a large peaceful protest apparently in St.

00:02:58.000 Louis before 200 people started involving themselves in break-ins and looting and throwing rocks and explosives at police officers and throwing gasoline at police officers.

00:03:06.000 So everything is apparently hunky-dory.

00:03:08.000 Everything is going really well.

00:03:10.000 Meanwhile, In New York City, an NYPD cop was attacked and there is tape of it.

00:03:15.000 You can see it happening.

00:03:16.000 By the way, there was a big controversy in New York because apparently a member of NYPD drew his gun on somebody and was fired yesterday and then the entire tape came out and it turns out that somebody was throwing bricks at one of the police officers who was standing right next to the guy.

00:03:30.000 So we have tape of this NYPD cop being attacked.

00:03:32.000 We also have tape of Buffalo cops being run over by a car.

00:03:36.000 So everything is going great, guys.

00:03:38.000 Everything is going really well.

00:03:39.000 Here's the thing about civil disobedience.

00:03:43.000 It's supposed to be civil.

00:03:44.000 Okay, civil disobedience means you are not going to pay attention to traffic laws.

00:03:48.000 It does not mean that you start throwing bricks at officers or throwing gasoline at officers or breaking storefronts to grab a pair of shoes.

00:03:54.000 That's not what any of this is about.

00:03:55.000 The looting in New York City was extraordinarily widespread last night.

00:03:58.000 I mean, it was very, very widespread. 0.97

00:04:00.000 We're going to get to the updates from New York City and Andrew Cuomo, your illustrious governor, a garbage heap of a governor, a terrible, terrible governor who's responsible. 0.94

00:04:10.000 I mean, I have a solution for Andrew Cuomo. 0.98

00:04:12.000 Maybe we should throw the looters into old age homes.

00:04:14.000 Maybe that's the solution.

00:04:15.000 He's throwing people with COVID-19 into old age homes.

00:04:17.000 Apparently the solution is to throw all problems into old age homes in New York City.

00:04:20.000 So maybe the governor of New York can do that as well.

00:04:24.000 We'll get to what's happening in New York and what's happening in LA, and we'll get to the media coverage of all of this, plus all of the controversy surrounding President Trump momentarily.

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00:06:02.000 Okay, so the looting was widespread in New York City last night.

00:06:07.000 It didn't matter that Andrew Cuomo had announced the first New York City curfew since 1943.

00:06:10.000 Since 1943, which was in the middle of World War II.

00:06:14.000 Okay, so we had the first, I mean, New York City has been the site of riots before and He announced a full curfew.

00:06:22.000 He's an idiot, so he announced the curfew at 11 p.m., which makes perfect sense because what you really want is like five hours of darkness to set in before he actually declared the curfew. 0.80

00:06:29.000 Genius move here by Andrew Cuomo. 1.00

00:06:32.000 And what was the predictable result, as we'll see?

00:06:34.000 People running around in their cars and just looting shops and then running away.

00:06:38.000 In New York City, I spoke to the mayor.

00:06:39.000 the looting was widespread.

00:06:40.000 Nothing says, let's get back to business after COVID-19.

00:06:43.000 Quite like, let's shut down all businesses in the country, particularly in New York City, and then, just on the verge of reopening, let's let looters go in and just smash and grab everything.

00:06:51.000 After all, insurance will cover it or something. 0.98

00:06:52.000 Here's Andrew Cuomo, your garbage governor of New York. 0.99

00:06:55.000 In New York City, I spoke to the mayor. 0.98

00:06:58.000 There's going to be a curfew in New York City that we think could be helpful.

00:07:09.000 And, uh, more importantly, there is going to be an increase in the force in New York City.

00:07:15.000 Uh, there were about 4,000 officers on duty, uh, last night.

00:07:21.000 Uh, there'll be double that tonight, about 8,000.

00:07:25.000 It's not a question of needing more personnel in New York City.

00:07:33.000 He's so bad at this.

00:07:35.000 So you issue a curfew order for 11pm.

00:07:38.000 Well, it turns out people were out on the streets before 11pm, and here's what some of that looked like.

00:07:41.000 Here's some tape of the looting that was happening in New York City.

00:07:44.000 You can see people just walking right into these stores, and in the background you can see that store that is being broken into, a giant crowd of people.

00:07:52.000 Do these look like people who are deeply disturbed about the death of George Floyd, or who give two damns about George Floyd, actually?

00:07:57.000 Does it look like people who are desperately protesting police brutality, or does it look like a great opportunity to grab yourself a pair of shoes or something?

00:08:05.000 Okay, and then you saw this last night.

00:08:06.000 Aldo was being broken into because Aldo obviously killed George Floyd.

00:08:10.000 Aldo is police brutality writ large.

00:08:12.000 What you're seeing, by the way, is corporations all over the United States today who are engaging in what they call Blackout Day, which is an attempt to buy some sort of respite from the looters and rioters.

00:08:22.000 You saw this all over the Sherman Oaks Valley area.

00:08:25.000 People boarding up their windows in expectations of rioters and looters and writing on the boards things like, BLM, we love George Floyd.

00:08:32.000 Guess what, guys?

00:08:33.000 Ain't gonna save you.

00:08:34.000 It ain't gonna save you.

00:08:35.000 And, by the way, I would assume that no one is in favor of George Floyd dying.

00:08:40.000 But the idea that you're going to buy some sort of mercy from rioters and looters assumes that the rioters and looters give two craps about George Floyd, which they do not.

00:08:48.000 And they're not attempting to say any differently.

00:08:52.000 It's amazing.

00:08:53.000 The media's willingness to conflate three groups of people, people who are protesting, people who are rioting and looting in Antiva, is unbelievable.

00:09:00.000 It's unbelievable.

00:09:00.000 So they can have the dramatic footage, and so they can suggest that America is on the verge of civil war, and so they can suggest that protesters are the ones who are breaking in, and people can't be contained.

00:09:09.000 Their anger just can't be contained.

00:09:11.000 Alternatively, there are a bunch of people who take advantage of bad situations in order to riot and loot.

00:09:15.000 And the veneer between civilization and non-civilization is incredibly thin.

00:09:18.000 I mean, I think that's what we are seeing in most of America's major cities over the past week or so, is that the veneer is really, really thin.

00:09:24.000 That as soon as the expectation goes away that you will be punished for violating a law, Then people just start violating the law.

00:09:31.000 Okay, and by the way, people who are protesting believe this is true about police officers, that if police officers with impunity can harm people, then you will get more police officers harming people.

00:09:39.000 I think that as a basic set of incentive structures, that's correct, is one of the reasons why I'm not in favor of qualified immunity for police officers, which is a doctrine created by the Supreme Court in 1982, and basically suggesting that even if you work outside the scope of your authority, you should be granted some sort of immunity.

00:09:56.000 But the same logic apparently does not apply to, you know, violations of law on a daily level.

00:10:04.000 It's been building up in places like New York and Seattle and LA for a long time as the mayors of these cities basically declared that low-level violations of law are totally fine.

00:10:13.000 And then when it turns into outright rioting and looting, then they just let it go for a week.

00:10:17.000 They just let it go for a full week.

00:10:18.000 Okay, so what do the rioters and looters want?

00:10:20.000 Well, why don't we ask one of the looters?

00:10:21.000 So here's a looter who was arrested yesterday in Los Angeles talking to a member of Local Fox and explaining what exactly he was doing rioting and looting.

00:10:31.000 Why you out here?

00:10:32.000 Uh, man, period, point blank.

00:10:35.000 Just like all my real ones trying to do, trying to get some money.

00:10:37.000 Explanation, that's it.

00:10:39.000 Trying to get some dough, that's it.

00:10:41.000 Just out here for the money?

00:10:42.000 Yeah, pretty much.

00:10:43.000 Anything to do with the protests?

00:10:44.000 What happened in Minnesota?

00:10:46.000 I mean, a little bit to do with that too.

00:10:48.000 You feel me?

00:10:49.000 But not really.

00:10:50.000 I'm out here for the dough.

00:10:51.000 Was it worth it?

00:10:53.000 Obviously not, I'm right here hemmed up.

00:10:55.000 Yeah, y'all see it.

00:10:56.000 Man, if y'all gonna get some money, do it right. 0.90

00:10:58.000 Don't do it the dumb way, do it the smart way.

00:11:02.000 So, that's all, good times. 0.75

00:11:03.000 I'm just, I'm very, very pleased that the media have decided to wrap all of this up in a ball and then declare that America is guilty for all of it.

00:11:10.000 America writ large.

00:11:11.000 If you're going to blame people, see, here's the thing.

00:11:13.000 If you want to solve problems, you have to be specific in your solutions.

00:11:16.000 And you have to be specific in the person who you think is the problem.

00:11:19.000 But this entire conversation about police brutality has been absolutely non-specific.

00:11:23.000 Not only has it been nonspecific on police brutality, it's been nonspecific on America more generally.

00:11:28.000 As we will see, the media basically just wanted to declare that America is racist and evil and guilty and terrible.

00:11:32.000 It's why you saw the founder of Black Entertainment Television come out yesterday and call for $14 trillion in slavery reparations in order to stop the rioting and the looting and the unrest and all the rest of this.

00:11:45.000 You're going to have to explain why it is that a white person who's never done anything racist is supposed to kneel in front of black people, as happened at some of the protests yesterday, in order to demonstrate their fealty to the idea that America is inherently racist.

00:11:57.000 Why is that?

00:11:58.000 Why does that fix the problem?

00:11:59.000 Why does that fix the problem?

00:12:01.000 Why is a non-racist person being being shamed into doing penance for a crime they didn't commit?

00:12:08.000 How is that?

00:12:08.000 How is that fixing any problem at all?

00:12:11.000 Again, we should all be in solidarity with the idea that what happened to George Floyd is terrible.

00:12:14.000 We're all on the same side.

00:12:16.000 You can't read the transcript and not see it as an atrocity.

00:12:19.000 The transcript of that incident is awful.

00:12:21.000 It is awful.

00:12:22.000 The transcript is people around the office are saying to him, get off that guy, he can't breathe, for like eight minutes and him not getting up.

00:12:29.000 Is there anyone in America who doesn't read that transcript and think that's awful?

00:12:33.000 But according to the media, of course, we are deeply divided over George Floyd.

00:12:36.000 Even though we are not divided over George Floyd.

00:12:37.000 Even though no one is in favor of police brutality.

00:12:40.000 No one of whom I am aware is in favor of police brutality.

00:12:43.000 But guess what?

00:12:43.000 It ain't police brutality when the police go arrest rioters and looters.

00:12:47.000 And the divided mind the media seem to have about police officers.

00:12:51.000 Why aren't the police officers protecting us and at the same time police officers are racist and vicious and cruel?

00:12:55.000 It doesn't work that way.

00:12:57.000 Okay, so, meanwhile, the situation at the White House got very contentious yesterday.

00:13:03.000 It got very contentious because the President of the United States started going after the governors, and he was pointing out quite correctly that governors across the nation have failed to perform their most basic duty, protecting the citizenry.

00:13:15.000 You must protect the citizenry.

00:13:17.000 This is your chief duty.

00:13:19.000 John Locke suggested, not to get into too basic philosophy here, John Locke suggested that in a state of nature that you have rights that pre-exist government and the reason that you form a government is to protect those rights, not to violate those rights, to protect those rights.

00:13:31.000 It is tyranny for the government to lock you in your home and tell you that as a law-abiding citizen you're supposed to pay taxes and obey the law and now you're locked in your home so we can let the rioters and looters run free on the streets.

00:13:42.000 That is not an aspect of a decent government.

00:13:45.000 That is an aspect of tyranny.

00:13:47.000 So President Trump had some words about that, and of course the media predictably went nuts on it.

00:13:50.000 We'll get to that in a moment.

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00:15:03.000 Alright, so President Trump, yesterday, he went off on governors on a phone call saying, why the hell aren't you locking down your states and making sure that law-abiding citizens are able to actually roam your streets?

00:15:14.000 Here's President Trump going off on governors, correctly.

00:15:16.000 You get a lot of men.

00:15:18.000 We have all the men and women that you need.

00:15:21.000 But people aren't calling them up.

00:15:22.000 You have to dominate.

00:15:24.000 If you don't dominate, you're wasting your time.

00:15:26.000 They're gonna run over you. 1.00

00:15:26.000 You're gonna look like a bunch of jerks. 1.00

00:15:28.000 You have to dominate. 1.00

00:15:31.000 And You have to arrest people, and you have to try people.

00:15:36.000 And they have to go to jail for long periods of time.

00:15:38.000 And those kids, they're all on camera.

00:15:40.000 They're wise guys.

00:15:43.000 Okay, he is correct about this.

00:15:44.000 The media were very angry.

00:15:45.000 How dare he say this to the governors?

00:15:47.000 Well, considering the governors have failed to prevent the destruction of law and order in their areas, considering that they have completely failed to do this, Trump is not wrong.

00:15:57.000 Okay, so Trump yesterday, he does a presser in the Rose Garden.

00:16:00.000 And at the same time the presser was going on, this is what became the major controversy of the day, of course.

00:16:04.000 At the same time the presser was going on, the situation in Lafayette Square, which is right adjacent to the White House, there were a bunch of protesters there, and they were being cleared with apparently smoke grenades, essentially.

00:16:18.000 They were being cleared from the area.

00:16:19.000 Now, the media later declared that President Trump had done this in order to clear the area so that he could walk over to the local church at St.

00:16:25.000 John's, which had nearly been burned down a couple of days ago for a photo op.

00:16:29.000 Well, let's just be clear about this.

00:16:31.000 According to U.S.

00:16:32.000 Park Police, they say that tear gas was never used, smoke canisters were deployed, which don't have an uncomfortable irritant to them.

00:16:38.000 This is according to Neil Augenstein over at WTOP.

00:16:41.000 The source says Park Police didn't know Trump would be walking across the park several minutes later.

00:16:45.000 Park Police say the reason the crowd was dispersed with smoke canisters is that at the moment, while officers were being pelted with water bottles, another factor was that protesters had climbed on top of the structure at the north end of Lafayette Square that had been burned the day before.

00:16:57.000 That is Park Police's side of the story.

00:17:01.000 So they're saying that basically there was indeed civil unrest, and that is why they were clearing the park.

00:17:05.000 In any case, as that was going on, President Trump spoke in the Rose Garden.

00:17:08.000 Here was President Trump saying that we're going to ensure that justice is served for George Floyd.

00:17:11.000 By the way, there's an FBI investigation going on.

00:17:13.000 The DOJ is on this particular case.

00:17:16.000 Trump has been very consistent in suggesting that he was horrified by the tape.

00:17:20.000 So here is Trump saying that, yeah, we're going to do our best to find out what happened with George Floyd, and then people will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

00:17:27.000 All Americans were rightly sickened and revolted by the brutal death of George Floyd.

00:17:36.000 My administration is fully committed that for George and his family, justice will be served.

00:17:43.000 He will not have died in vain.

00:17:46.000 But we cannot allow the righteous cries and peaceful protesters to be drowned out by an angry mob He is exactly correct about this.

00:17:58.000 And then he says, listen, we're going to end the riots and the lawlessness.

00:18:01.000 This is not going to continue.

00:18:02.000 Here's the president yesterday in the Rose Garden on the split screen with all of the protests and riots going on around the country.

00:18:08.000 I am mobilizing all available federal resources, civilian and military, to stop the rioting and looting, to end the destruction and arson, and to protect the rights of law-abiding Americans, including your Second Amendment rights.

00:18:26.000 Therefore, the following measures are going into effect immediately.

00:18:32.000 First, we are ending the riots and lawlessness that has spread throughout our country.

00:18:38.000 We will end it now.

00:18:42.000 And then he said, listen, if the mayors don't do it, I'm going to dispatch the military to do it. 0.92

00:18:45.000 So I'm just going to note here, the same media who are very angry at Trump for not issuing a nationwide lockdown order over COVID-19 are now saying that he's a tyrant for saying that if he has to, he will activate the military.

00:18:55.000 And he does have the legal authority to do this.

00:18:57.000 He will activate the military in order to stop rioting and looting.

00:19:00.000 So is it possible that the media just hate Trump?

00:19:01.000 I sort of get that feeling.

00:19:02.000 Here's President Trump yesterday.

00:19:05.000 A number of state and local governments have failed to take necessary action to safeguard their residents.

00:19:13.000 Innocent people have been savagely beaten Like the young man in Dallas, Texas, who was left dying on the street.

00:19:21.000 Or the woman in upstate New York, viciously attacked by dangerous thugs.

00:19:26.000 If a city or state refuses to take the actions that are necessary to defend the life and property of their residents, then I will deploy the United States military and quickly solve the problem for them.

00:19:42.000 Okay, so this was horrible according to Democrats and according to the media.

00:19:45.000 This is tyranny, and as we'll see, the media reaction here is extraordinary and over-the-top and crazy.

00:19:50.000 He does have the legal authority to do this under the Insurrection Act.

00:19:52.000 The Insurrection Act has, in fact, been invoked before.

00:19:54.000 It was invoked in 1992 during the Los Angeles riots.

00:19:56.000 Now, in that case, the governor, who was then Pete Wilson, a Republican in California, asked the federal government to invoke the Insurrection Act so that the federal government could send in troops and quell the rioting that was happening in South Central Los Angeles.

00:20:08.000 Okay, but you don't actually need state permission in order to do that or a state request in order to do that.

00:20:13.000 In fact, the Insurrection Act was invoked over the objections of Governor Orval Falbus in Alabama in order to ensure that black kids could go to school in the 1950s at integrated schools.

00:20:24.000 President Eisenhower invokes the Insurrection Act.

00:20:26.000 Okay, so the Insurrection Act is generally invoked when local authorities are not doing their jobs and protecting the civil rights of their citizens.

00:20:33.000 So, the president does have the authority to do this sort of stuff.

00:20:38.000 So the president has real authority to do it.

00:20:40.000 And the president, by the way, didn't say he's going to do it.

00:20:42.000 He said, if you don't get your cities and states under control, then I will do it.

00:20:45.000 And guess what?

00:20:46.000 He should.

00:20:47.000 He should.

00:20:47.000 Because guess what?

00:20:48.000 Because you're an American taxpaying citizen.

00:20:50.000 You have civil rights.

00:20:51.000 Your civil rights are being abridged and violated when you are locked in your home so rioters and looters can roam free.

00:20:57.000 If the president has to do this, and he shouldn't have to, I mean, the fact is that mayors and governors who fail should be held politically accountable for their failures.

00:21:05.000 But does the president have the legal authority to do this?

00:21:07.000 He does.

00:21:07.000 He does have the legal authority to do this, and he was not guaranteeing he is going to.

00:21:11.000 He was saying, if you continue to let this stuff rage out of control, then I will have to.

00:21:16.000 But guess what?

00:21:17.000 Many states are starting to get this under control.

00:21:18.000 Minnesota is where this started, and the unrest has basically died down over the last three days.

00:21:21.000 Why?

00:21:22.000 Because there are now heavy boots on the ground from police.

00:21:25.000 After the governor, Tim Walz, basically activated the National Guard and told the Minneapolis mayor to stop with his nonsense and allow the police to do their jobs, it turns out that rioting and looting were basically stamped out.

00:21:35.000 So this is controversy number one regarding President Trump.

00:21:38.000 There is controversy number two regarding President Trump.

00:21:40.000 And that was the situation right after this.

00:21:43.000 So President Trump speaks at the Rose Garden.

00:21:45.000 As he is speaking, the police are firing tear gas at protesters in Lafayette Square.

00:21:50.000 So the original story is that they were doing this in order to clear the path so that President Trump could go do a photo op at St.

00:21:57.000 John's.

00:21:58.000 And the video is Disturbing, because you see the police who are advancing on a crowd of people who seem to mostly just be protesting.

00:22:07.000 Like, you don't see anybody who is committing active violence in this particular video.

00:22:12.000 And the police are dispersing smoke grenades in order to move people out of Lafayette Square.

00:22:17.000 People are saying, these are peaceful protesters, why are you dispersing them?

00:22:20.000 Why are you telling them to leave?

00:22:23.000 Well, okay, this is about 25 minutes before the mandatory curfew in the city.

00:22:27.000 Okay, but beyond that, It is also a fact of the matter that you do not necessarily, typically if you're going to have a protest, I mean just to be perfectly legally technical about this, I'm not a huge fan of clearing people who are protesting in public parks Just generally.

00:22:46.000 Not a huge fan of that.

00:22:47.000 However, if you've ever held a protest, one thing you know is that you actually have to have licensing from the police.

00:22:52.000 You're supposed to be licensed with the local authorities.

00:22:54.000 Presumably that's not what happened here.

00:22:55.000 And so the police moved them out, according to the Park Police.

00:22:57.000 Again, I'm just quoting the Park Police.

00:22:59.000 According to the Park Police, these people were moved out because people were chucking water bottles at the cops and they were...

00:23:05.000 Positioning themselves on top of burned out monuments and all the rest.

00:23:08.000 Okay, so that's that's the situation.

00:23:11.000 Then President Trump walks out and he decides to walk to the church.

00:23:15.000 We'll get to that in just one second because this became the sort of flashpoint.

00:23:19.000 Of course, the implication was that Trump had ordered the clearing out of the park in order so that he could do the sort of macho pose in front of the church.

00:23:24.000 First of all, if you are deeply troubled by the president going and if you are more troubled by the president going and posing in front of a burned out church and vowing law and order, then you are by the fact that people burned the church in the first place.

00:23:34.000 Then you are doing this wrong.

00:23:36.000 You are doing this wrong.

00:23:36.000 Whatever your feelings about the photo-op nature of this sort of thing, the fact of the matter is that if you are more disturbed about President Trump photo-opping in front of a burned-out church than you are about the fact that a cop was run over last night in Buffalo, or the fact that cops were being shot in St.

00:23:52.000 Louis, or the fact that stores were being looted around New York, or the fact that the church itself was burned like two days ago, Then it's because you hate Trump.

00:24:01.000 Truthfully.

00:24:02.000 You can be outraged at both, but you really cannot say that this is what's breaking the country.

00:24:06.000 I'm sorry, Trump clearing a park, even if that's what happened, and the park police say it isn't, but even if that's what happened, Trump clearing a park to stand in front of a church is not fascist, it is not tyranny, it is not Sandman Square, it is not on the order of anything else that is going on.

00:24:20.000 It is an actual threat to the lives and rights of American citizens.

00:24:23.000 We'll get to this in just one second.

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00:25:29.000 Okay, so, then President Trump walks over to the church.

00:25:32.000 So, the park is cleared.

00:25:34.000 President Trump walks over to the church, holding the Bible.

00:25:38.000 And there is this photo op, and he is surrounded by some of his staffers.

00:25:42.000 His chief of staff, Mark Meadows.

00:25:43.000 Ivanka shows up.

00:25:44.000 Jared Kushner shows up.

00:25:47.000 Again, I'm not a photo op fan, generally.

00:25:48.000 Again, I don't like the idea that the President of the United States is supposed to be some sort of image-making symbol.

00:25:53.000 I've never liked this sort of thing.

00:25:56.000 Is this supremely outrageous that he went to stand in front of a historic church that was nearly burned to the ground by protesters last night?

00:26:03.000 I don't feel this is supremely outrageous.

00:26:05.000 Really, I don't.

00:26:07.000 He brought a Bible along with him.

00:26:08.000 Look, is it a photo op?

00:26:10.000 Obviously it's a photo op.

00:26:11.000 Of course it's a photo op.

00:26:12.000 He didn't even read anything from the Bible.

00:26:14.000 Of course it's a photo op.

00:26:16.000 I don't like these sorts of photo ops, but if the image that Americans are getting is of a president who's not going to allow churches to be burned down, then I'm kind of in favor.

00:26:24.000 If that's the image that's being put out there, a president who is not going to allow spaces to be taken over by looters and rioters, I'm kind of in favor.

00:26:32.000 That didn't stop the Episcopal Bishop of Washington, D.C.

00:26:35.000 who oversees that church from saying that she was outraged that neither she nor the rector was asked or told that they would be clearing with tear gas so they could use one of our churches as a prop.

00:26:42.000 Worth noting that this Episcopal Bishop really doesn't like President Trump in the first place, so it is worth taking that into account.

00:26:49.000 And then you have Axios reporting that certain members of the White House were not exactly thrilled with the church photo op.

00:26:56.000 One senior aide was telling people that this was an iconic moment for President Trump.

00:26:59.000 A senior White House official, though, told Axios that they were ashamed and disgusted.

00:27:03.000 Okay, whatever your reaction to President Trump standing in front of the church, Let's be real about what the actual story in America is right now.

00:27:11.000 Widespread rioting across the nation, targeting of police officers, and a president who finally is getting out of the bunker and telling people that he is going to enforce the law. 0.97

00:27:19.000 And now there better be some damn follow-up.

00:27:21.000 Because if I'm still locked in my home and you're still locked in your home a week from now because rioters and looters are running roughshod, then the president was doing empty photo ops and it means nothing. 0.96

00:27:28.000 Okay, so the president better fulfill his pledge to actually protect the citizens.

00:27:31.000 And so must mayors and governors.

00:27:33.000 This is the only reason that government was instituted, was to protect your rights in the first place.

00:27:39.000 And now the media reaction to all of this is just insane.

00:27:42.000 Insane.

00:27:43.000 So, they're pushing a couple of different notions.

00:27:46.000 One, that looting and rioting are actually good.

00:27:49.000 That they're like the Boston Tea Party.

00:27:52.000 Two, that the rioters and looters and the protesters are on the same page.

00:27:56.000 Which is not, in fact, true.

00:27:57.000 The looters are there to loot, and the protesters are there to protest, and they are not there for the same reason at all.

00:28:03.000 And then three, the reason that the rioters and the protesters are on the same page is because America is deeply, deeply evil.

00:28:09.000 So, again, this sort of process of thinking is disturbing, and it could lead to the destruction of the country.

00:28:19.000 I wrote a book all about the destruction of the country called How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps.

00:28:23.000 It's coming out in July.

00:28:25.000 And when I wrote it, this is exactly the sort of stuff I was worried about.

00:28:27.000 And then the pandemic hit and I thought, okay, well, at least we can all come together around shared values.

00:28:32.000 Like, we don't like disease.

00:28:34.000 And even right now, I think that we should all be able to come together around certain shared values.

00:28:37.000 Like, it is bad when a police officer kneels on somebody's neck for nine minutes for no reason.

00:28:41.000 And also, rioting and looting is bad, but apparently not.

00:28:44.000 And why is that not a thing?

00:28:49.000 The reason that it is not a thing, the reason we can't come together, is because there are a group, there's a large group of people, I call them disintegrationists in my book, because they're actually for the disintegration of the country.

00:28:57.000 Disintegrationists who want to portray America as nothing more than an agglomeration of various interest groups at each other's throats constantly. 0.99

00:29:05.000 And the portrayal of America's founding principles as deeply malign and evil, the sort of 1619 project view of America, it bears fruit. 0.96

00:29:13.000 And those fruit can be seen every day in academia, they can be seen every day in the media.

00:29:16.000 The push for the complete destruction of America as a unified body politic, because our history is evil, our shared philosophy is a lie, our culture doesn't exist, our culture of rights doesn't exist, we're just a bunch of competing interest groups locked into this cage with each other.

00:29:31.000 That vision of the United States has been promulgated by the media.

00:29:34.000 It continues to be promulgated by the media.

00:29:36.000 And what's amusing is to watch, in a very dark way, what's amusing is to watch as politicians on the left try to capture that sentiment and then say, and if you just vote us in, we'll solve that problem.

00:29:46.000 That is not a solvable problem.

00:29:48.000 It is not a solvable problem.

00:29:49.000 Once you suggest that America is corrupt through and through, that America, racism is in our DNA, as Barack Obama suggested.

00:29:57.000 Once you suggest that America is incurably vicious, Then no vote is going to change that.

00:30:04.000 What you really need is dissolution of the country.

00:30:06.000 And by the way, any attempt to cram down a fundamental change from the top is going to go without the consent of the vast majority of Americans who actually sort of like the country.

00:30:14.000 That's what's going to lead to more of the country breaking apart.

00:30:19.000 I would be, I'm bewildered and saddened and honestly like it brings you to the verge of tears when you think that the greatest edifice for human freedom in the history of the world, for human freedom and prosperity, the greatest edifice ever, the philosophical underpinnings of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States are being abrogated and thrown out in favor of pure malign politics, nasty, disgusting politics.

00:30:42.000 that are attempting to tear us one from each other, even though you know your neighbor isn't in favor of rioting and looting.

00:30:47.000 You know your neighbor isn't in favor of police officers kneeling on anybody's neck.

00:30:50.000 You know all that.

00:30:51.000 But you've been told that America stands for police officers kneeling on people's neck, and therefore rioting and looting are okay.

00:30:56.000 That's what the media are telling you day in and day out.

00:30:59.000 It's what academia are telling you day in and day out.

00:31:03.000 You can see it over at CNN.

00:31:05.000 Okay, so CNN, again, the stories of the day are not President Trump stands in front of church.

00:31:09.000 I'm sorry, that's not the story of the day.

00:31:11.000 The story of the day isn't even the president suggesting that if the local authorities don't do their job, then the federal government will do its job.

00:31:18.000 The story of the day is continued destruction of law and order across the United States and the failures of local authorities to do anything about it.

00:31:26.000 That's the story of the day.

00:31:27.000 Okay, CNN's front page makes no mention whatsoever of police officers being targeted.

00:31:33.000 They make no mention whatsoever of the rioting and looting that happened in New York City last night.

00:31:39.000 Instead, the headline over at CNN is, Trump responds with a strongman act.

00:31:44.000 Your most trusted name in news.

00:31:47.000 And we're gonna get to the media, again, pushing this notion that riots and looting are okay because America is brutal and evil. 0.89

00:31:53.000 And also, by the way, President Trump's a dictator.

00:31:55.000 So President Trump, if he tries to shut down riots and looting, it's because he's a dictator, not because it is the job of the government to ensure that you are able to go about your business in normal fashion, but because he's a dictator. 0.91

00:32:06.000 We'll get to the media's coverage and the Democrats, and this is all insane.

00:32:10.000 It's insane sorts of stuff.

00:32:11.000 We're gonna get to it in just one second.

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00:33:15.000 So what we are seeing right now is the case from the media and the Democrats.

00:33:26.000 But I repeat myself that the riots and looting are part of the protests, that the protests and the riots and looting are all justified by the innate evil of the United States.

00:33:33.000 And therefore, the president Trump attempting to crack down on the riots and the looting is a tyrant.

00:33:38.000 That is the logic.

00:33:39.000 And it's being openly pushed by members of the mainstream media.

00:33:42.000 Openly pushed.

00:33:43.000 Not quietly, openly. 1.00

00:33:45.000 Chris Cuomo, Full-on moron on CNN last night. 0.99

00:33:49.000 He was just pushing riots, I mean openly pushing riots, suggesting that rioting and looting are just like the Boston Tea Party. 0.99

00:33:54.000 Hey, there are a few distinctions with regard to the Boston Tea Party.

00:33:58.000 Distinction number one, the Boston Tea Party was directed against the East India Tea Company, a monopoly granted by the British government so that they could gain money off the backs of American taxpayers who did not have the ability to vote.

00:34:11.000 That was an act of insurrection.

00:34:16.000 So if what you're talking about is that the riots and the looting are actually acts of insurrection, and that the federal government has every force at its disposal to stop acts of insurrection, I suppose that you're correct.

00:34:25.000 The British government attempted to.

00:34:27.000 The difference is that the British regime was wrong.

00:34:30.000 I'm wondering exactly how it is wrong to shut down rioting and looting.

00:34:34.000 And again, at least the Boston Tea Party was targeting a monopoly granted by the British government. 1.00

00:34:39.000 I'm not sure what robbing a target has to do with police brutality, Chris Cuomo, you stupid ass. 1.00

00:34:44.000 Here's Chris Cuomo, block of wood. 1.00

00:34:47.000 Doesn't make it okay to riot, says the majority.

00:34:50.000 But doesn't it depend why it's happening?

00:34:52.000 A riot in Boston Harbor started the fight that amounted to America.

00:34:56.000 Cities burned across the continent in 1968, again at Stonewall.

00:35:00.000 In each of those cases, it was the minority manifesting a desperate plea to be heard and for change, just like now.

00:35:07.000 A friend of mine, celebrated American and African American, asked me in a broken voice, why doesn't America love us?

00:35:15.000 Why do they do this to us?

00:35:18.000 Do what?

00:35:20.000 Do what?

00:35:20.000 Like, what is he talking about?

00:35:23.000 Seriously, what is he talking about? 0.99

00:35:25.000 Is the impression that Americans are willy-nilly going out and killing black people? 0.99

00:35:29.000 Apparently that's the actual impression. 0.99

00:35:30.000 Not kidding.

00:35:31.000 Apparently that's the actual impression.

00:35:33.000 There was a picture that was going around the internet yesterday from Beverly Hills on Sunset Boulevard. 0.84

00:35:37.000 A black man had set up a series of nooses and he is dressed in sort of jean cutoffs so that he's obviously attempting to look like a black slave or being being hanged literally hanged to death on sunset boulevard with a giant sign that said 1619 to 2020 okay this is just bullshit i'm sorry it's just bullshit like the idea that 1619 to 2020 there's been no progression at all I can think of a few things that are different between 1619 and 2020. 0.94

00:36:06.000 Number one, that blacks are now free and American citizens with full rights as they always should have been. 0.97

00:36:14.000 The most unjust act in American history was slavery.

00:36:17.000 Second most unjust act was Jim Crow. 0.54

00:36:19.000 This guy is in the middle of Sunset Boulevard exercising his First Amendment rights under the Constitution of the United States and no one is bothering him.

00:36:25.000 That is not the same thing as 1965, let alone 1865.

00:36:28.000 This notion being pushed by the media that nothing has changed in 400 years is explicitly a notion directed at the heart and soul of the United States.

00:36:39.000 We are an evil country and we ought to be torn out by the roots.

00:36:42.000 Bernie Sanders was doing this yesterday.

00:36:43.000 So Bernie Sanders tweeted out, He has not condemned any of the rioting or the looting, of course, because America's evil.

00:36:49.000 This is the Bernie Sanders perspective.

00:36:50.000 He tweeted out yesterday, The richest 400 Americans sit on $3 trillion, the size of the entire UK economy.

00:36:57.000 The billionaire class now pays a lower tax rate than people living paycheck to paycheck.

00:37:01.000 The looting of America has been going on for over 40 years, and the culprits are the ultra rich.

00:37:06.000 He says nothing about actual physical looting, but if you run a business, you're a looter.

00:37:11.000 It's been going on for 40 years.

00:37:13.000 For 40 years, America is being looted by the rich.

00:37:16.000 And nothing to say about riots happening in the streets where people are looting businesses.

00:37:21.000 Nothing to say about that at all.

00:37:24.000 And then you have people like Nikole Hannah-Jones.

00:37:26.000 Nikole Hannah-Jones is the editor over at the New York Times who just won a Pulitzer for her essay on the 1619 Project, a bag of lies so bad that it was ripped up and down by a set of other Pulitzer Prize winning historians.

00:37:38.000 Not only is she an overrated writer, she is an awful, awful historian. 0.71

00:37:42.000 So President Trump yesterday suggested that people value their Second Amendment rights.

00:37:46.000 One of the reasons people value their Second Amendment rights is because if you ain't gonna protect me, I'm gonna protect myself. 0.94

00:37:50.000 If you're going to allow rioters and looters to roam around my neighborhood, I will shoot them if they come on my property. 0.98

00:37:56.000 And you should too. 1.00

00:37:57.000 Okay, if people enter your property looking to riot or loot on your property, You should be able to shoot them. 0.96

00:38:03.000 This is called self-defense.

00:38:04.000 That is uncontroversial.

00:38:05.000 That has been uncontroversial for all of history in every society. 0.96

00:38:09.000 If somebody breaks into your house, of course you have the right to shoot them. 0.91

00:38:13.000 And guess what?

00:38:14.000 You know who's doing most of the defending of property right now?

00:38:17.000 Our poor minority shop owners in places like Van Nuys.

00:38:21.000 Hey, we've seen situations in poorer areas where people are stationing themselves with guns in their small shops trying to protect their life savings.

00:38:28.000 So what does Nicole Hannah-Jones write? 0.69

00:38:29.000 She writes, this reference, so President Trump referenced the Second Amendment.

00:38:32.000 She says, this reference to the Second Amendment is a head scratcher only if you don't know that the Second Amendment was in fact created to ensure Southern slave owners the right to maintain and arm slave patrols to put down insurrection among the enslaved.

00:38:43.000 Now, Trump is invoking the Second Amendment against their descendants.

00:38:46.000 What the hell are you talking about? 0.98

00:38:48.000 I want black people to be armed against the predations of other people, white, black, or green. 0.99

00:38:53.000 Everybody who is a law-abiding citizen should have the ability to defend themselves. 0.98

00:38:57.000 And this is historically nonsense, absolute sheer, absolute nonsense.

00:39:01.000 Top to bottom, Charles Cook, the editor of National Review, he says, the first state to incorporate an explicit protection of the right to keep and bear arms was Pennsylvania in 1776.

00:39:10.000 Okay, Pennsylvania was not a slave-holding state.

00:39:13.000 Vermont copied that provision in 1777 in the same document in which it abolished slavery.

00:39:18.000 Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times columnist Nicole Hannah-Jones.

00:39:23.000 Again, the idea here is that America is racist top to bottom, just as racist as it has ever been, and therefore rioting and looting are okay, and therefore, any attempt to stop the rioting and looting is bad and tyrannical.

00:39:35.000 Because obviously these people are rioting and looting in the name of abolishing a cruel and unjust system.

00:39:44.000 Pushing this notion today is Ibram Kendi, who is another sort of famous author who writes about race all the time, and he has written a couple of best-selling books.

00:39:54.000 He has a piece over the Atlantic that is called The American Nightmare.

00:39:58.000 Hey, let me just note, according to the Washington Post in 2019, the number of black unarmed men who were shot, black unarmed people who were shot by the police, this is according to the Washington Post, not me, the Washington Post, was nine.

00:40:11.000 In a country of 330 million people with 30 million black people.

00:40:14.000 The number of black unarmed men shot and killed by police was nine.

00:40:18.000 Every one of those is a tragedy.

00:40:20.000 But does that suggest that every black American is in danger of being shot and killed by the police in unarmed fashion?

00:40:25.000 By the way, the number of black Americans, according to the Washington Post, unarmed and not fleeing from the police at the time, shot and killed?

00:40:34.000 Three.

00:40:36.000 This is according to the Washington Post.

00:40:36.000 Three.

00:40:39.000 The notion, again, that blacks are on set for extinction in the United States is just a lie, or that nothing has happened in the past 200 years or 400 years.

00:40:48.000 This narrative is dangerous, it is ugly, and it is driving legitimization of violence against the regime.

00:40:53.000 Because after all, if the regime is dedicated to your destruction, then anything you do to resist the regime is okay.

00:40:58.000 And not only that, if every aspect of American society is an outgrowth of a racist regime, And resistance against any institution, including the local Target or the local jewelry store, is an act of resistance against the regime.

00:41:10.000 Right?

00:41:10.000 You knock over the institutions of capitalism and you're knocking over the institutions of racism, according to the left.

00:41:16.000 You see, Abraham Kennedy has this piece, and this is the most often played trick in the op-ed world of the left when it comes to race.

00:41:25.000 It is, cite an incident from 1896 and then just fast forward 120 years and pretend nothing has happened in the interim.

00:41:31.000 So this is what Amber McKenzie does. 0.99

00:41:32.000 This is the Ta-Nehisi Coates trick.

00:41:34.000 This is the Jamal Bowie trick. 0.97

00:41:36.000 And it is ridiculous. 0.99

00:41:37.000 It's a ridiculous trick. 0.99

00:41:39.000 There's this thing called history and a bunch of crap happened between, you know, 1865 and now. 0.97

00:41:41.000 And between 1965 and now.

00:41:43.000 And between 1968 and now.

00:41:47.000 But here's what he writes is on May 19th, 1896, the New York Times allocated a single sentence on page three to reporting the U.S. Supreme Court's Plessy versus Ferguson decision.

00:41:55.000 Constitutionalizing Jim Crow hardly made news in 1896.

00:41:57.000 There was no there there.

00:41:58.000 Americans already knew that equal rights had been lynched. 0.89

00:42:01.000 Plessy was just the silently staged funeral.

00:42:03.000 Another racial text published by the nation's premier social science organization, the American Economic Association, and classified by historian Evelyn Hammonds as one of the most influential documents in social science at the turn of the 20th century elicited more shock in 1896.

00:42:18.000 Nothing is more clearly shown from this investigation than that the Southern black man at the time of emancipation was healthy in body and cheerful in mind, according to Frederick Hoffman in Race, Traits, and Tendencies of the American Negro.

00:42:28.000 What are the conditions 30 years after?

00:42:30.000 Hoffman concluded from the plain language of the facts that black Americans were better off enslaved.

00:42:34.000 Okay, so what does any of this have to do?

00:42:35.000 Is there anyone arguing that black Americans are better off enslaved? 0.97

00:42:38.000 Anyone who did would be abjectly evil, according to every living human citizen in the United States, with the exception of like five evil pieces of human debris. 0.97

00:42:48.000 But according to Ibram Kendi, nothing has changed.

00:42:51.000 He says, A nightmare is essentially a horror story of danger, but it is not wholly a horror story.

00:42:57.000 Black people experience joy, love, peace, and safety.

00:42:59.000 But as in any horror story, those unforgettable moments of toil, terror, and trauma have made danger essential to the Black experience in racist America. 0.88

00:43:06.000 What one Black American experiences, many Black Americans experience. 0.99

00:43:09.000 Black Americans are constantly stepping into the toil and terror and trauma of other Black Americans. 1.00

00:43:15.000 Black Americans are constantly stepping into the souls of the dead because they know they could have been them. 0.96

00:43:20.000 They are them. 0.99

00:43:21.000 Because they know it is dangerous to be black in America. 1.00

00:43:23.000 Because racist Americans see blacks as dangerous. 1.00

00:43:26.000 Racist Americans see blacks as dangerous? 0.99

00:43:28.000 How about like a stat? 0.98

00:43:29.000 How about anywhere in here a stat about the number of people who are black who are being murdered by the number of people who are white for racial reasons?

00:43:36.000 Because those stats are available.

00:43:37.000 The FBI puts them out every year.

00:43:38.000 And you know what?

00:43:39.000 The number is not high.

00:43:41.000 It is not high.

00:43:42.000 Because guess what?

00:43:43.000 America is not overwhelmingly racist.

00:43:45.000 And America is not 1896 Plessy vs. Ferguson or evil texts like the one he is citing here by this Hoffman person.

00:43:52.000 So what is the jump?

00:43:53.000 You ready?

00:43:53.000 Here's the jump.

00:43:54.000 To be black and conscious of anti-black racism is to stare into the mirror of your own extinction.

00:43:59.000 Honest to God, does Ibram Kendi think that he is staring in the mirror of his own extinction in the United States? 0.94

00:44:03.000 Does he think that, like, any moment the cops are going to bust down his door and shoot him? 0.85

00:44:06.000 Just for being black, they know where he lives. 0.98

00:44:09.000 White people can figure out where he lives. 0.99

00:44:12.000 Is the idea that you are on the verge of extinction if you are black in America? 0.98

00:44:16.000 Because I'm wondering for the evidence. 0.74

00:44:17.000 He says, ask the souls of the 10,000 black victims of COVID-19 who might still be living if they had been white.

00:44:22.000 What in the actual F are you talking about?

00:44:25.000 What, like, what? 1.00

00:44:26.000 Black people were wheeled into the hospital and all the doctors took one look at them and they went, oh, black guy, gonna let him die. 0.77

00:44:31.000 There is zero evidence of that. 0.96

00:44:33.000 The reason that black Americans are dying at a higher rate than white Americans is because they are suffering from COVID-19 at a higher rate than white Americans.

00:44:40.000 And part of that has to do with levels of obesity and levels of diabetes.

00:44:43.000 Black Britons, people who are... Black Britishers are dying at four times the rate of white Britishers. 0.87

00:44:48.000 Is that because of endemic British racism as well? 0.92

00:44:52.000 He says, ask the souls of those blamed for their own deaths.

00:44:54.000 Ask the souls of those who disproportionately lost their jobs and then their life, as others disproportionately raged about losing their freedom to infect us all.

00:45:01.000 Ah, so now, if you argued against the lockdown because you wanted everybody to be able to get back to work, including people at your business, you were racist.

00:45:08.000 Ask the souls of those ignored by the governors reopening their states.

00:45:11.000 Because apparently all black and hispanic people want these states to remain closed forever. 1.00

00:45:16.000 There is not a single point of data that is deployed in this piece.

00:45:20.000 Not one.

00:45:21.000 It is all simply just conjecture.

00:45:28.000 Abject conjecture.

00:45:29.000 With removing of all confounds.

00:45:32.000 The only statistics that are cited in the entirety of the piece are things like, take Minneapolis.

00:45:37.000 Black residents are more likely than white residents to be pulled over, arrested, and victimized by its police force.

00:45:41.000 Even as black residents account for 20% of the city's population, they make up 64% of the people Minneapolis police restrain by the next since 2018, and more than 60% of the victims of Minneapolis police shootings from late 2009 to May 2019.

00:45:55.000 Question.

00:45:55.000 How many of those people were resisting arrest?

00:45:57.000 How many of those people had committed crimes?

00:45:59.000 How many of those people were reported to have crimes?

00:46:01.000 How many of those people were armed at the time?

00:46:02.000 None of those statistics make it into the piece.

00:46:05.000 Why?

00:46:05.000 Because any inequality in the data is obviously inequity because America is evil.

00:46:10.000 Because America is evil.

00:46:12.000 That is what Imbram Kendi is writing today over at The Atlantic. 0.88

00:46:12.000 Right? 0.88

00:46:17.000 So, the idea is that there is something wrong with society, something dangerous and deathly about racist policy, and black people are experiencing the American nightmare.

00:46:26.000 This is the case that the left is making, and making every day.

00:46:29.000 And therefore, to shut down the rioting and the looting is to be a dictator, right?

00:46:33.000 The rioting and the looting should be allowed to go on, because the rioting and the looting, they are just the natural result of resistance to an evil regime.

00:46:33.000 Is to be a tyrant.

00:46:40.000 And that evil regime, of course, is the United States, writ large.

00:46:44.000 That is the underlying message here.

00:46:46.000 So Don Lemon last night on CNN, he says, we're teetering on the verge of a dictatorship now.

00:46:50.000 Because President Trump said that he would use federal forces if need be to restore order.

00:46:50.000 Why?

00:46:55.000 Teetering on a dictatorship?

00:46:55.000 This is Alex Jones kind of stuff from Don Lemon, except he's the well-respected CNN anchor.

00:47:01.000 Open your eyes, America.

00:47:03.000 Open your eyes.

00:47:04.000 We are teetering on a dictatorship.

00:47:08.000 This is chaos.

00:47:09.000 Has the president, I'm listening, is the president declaring war on Americans?

00:47:15.000 What is happening here?

00:47:16.000 He's saying he wants to protect peaceful protesters at the same time sending law enforcement and military into the streets to push peaceful protesters back.

00:47:30.000 What you're watching is tyranny because this is the greatest threat in our history.

00:47:33.000 That's what Representative John Yarmuth tweeted out.

00:47:36.000 He said this is the greatest threat to America in our history.

00:47:38.000 In our history.

00:47:39.000 He said the President just declared war on millions of Americans and the First Amendment.

00:47:43.000 He is the greatest threat to the American way of life in our history.

00:47:46.000 Really, I seem to remember Jim Crow and slavery being part of American history.

00:47:49.000 What happened to those is like the greatest threat.

00:47:51.000 Val Demings, who is a representative who is widely considered to be a possible candidate for Vice President under Joe Biden.

00:47:58.000 It's basically down to Kamala Harris and Val Demings.

00:48:00.000 She tweeted out, What the hell does that mean?

00:48:09.000 Resist law enforcement authorities trying to stop rioting and looting?

00:48:12.000 The only way that you can get to this conclusion is to suggest that America deserves what is coming here.

00:48:19.000 And if not, then please speak up.

00:48:21.000 And I think that there are some Democrats who are speaking up.

00:48:23.000 I think there's some Democrats who are saying rioting and looting are bad.

00:48:25.000 Not every disintegrationist is a Democrat, and not everybody who is critical of the United States is calling for rioting and looting.

00:48:32.000 But the attempt to conflate the protesters and the rioting and the looting and declare it tyranny, to stop all of this, is absolutely insane. 0.59

00:48:41.000 Absolutely crazy.

00:48:43.000 In a second, we're going to get to the sort of moderate position.

00:48:47.000 We'll see how these conflict.

00:48:48.000 I mean, there is the moderate position here has fallen away because the Democrats have made a pitch that they cannot actually fulfill.

00:48:57.000 So here's the thing.

00:48:58.000 Once you make the pitch that Democrats have been making for a very long time and continue to make that America at root is racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobic, capitalist, tyranny.

00:49:06.000 And once you suggest that rioting and looting are the natural outgrowth of these things, as you see from Don Lemon or Chris Cuomo, who are overtly defending this sort of activity, and once you suggest that it is tyranny to stop all of this, that it is tyranny to suggest that law and order be restored, once you do all of this, you cannot then put the genie back in the bottle.

00:49:26.000 You can't say, well, if you just vote for the right people, then magically everything is healed.

00:49:31.000 And this is the trick the Democrats are trying to play here.

00:49:34.000 So let me give you an example.

00:49:35.000 Joe Biden's spokeswoman yesterday said that protesters should rise up.

00:49:39.000 I don't know what that means.

00:49:40.000 What does it mean to rise up?

00:49:41.000 What, disobey the law?

00:49:42.000 Does it mean to riot and loot?

00:49:43.000 What does this mean?

00:49:44.000 Here is Joe Biden's campaign spokeswoman.

00:49:48.000 Is he dismayed by what he's seen in terms of the pushback to the violence?

00:49:54.000 Does he feel like some of these governors could be doing more?

00:49:58.000 He believes that, as he has said, he believes that people have a right to protest.

00:50:02.000 He believes that they should rise up.

00:50:04.000 I'm talking about the violence.

00:50:06.000 They should rise up.

00:50:07.000 He has unequivocally condemned the violence.

00:50:09.000 He has said that the reason that people are protesting should not be overshadowed by the protests themselves.

00:50:17.000 Okay, you're going to need to be a little clearer right there.

00:50:20.000 You're literally asked about the violence, and then they say they should rise up, and then immediately you say, oh, but he condemns the violence.

00:50:24.000 Here's the thing.

00:50:25.000 If you say that you're rising up against an unjust system, and the system itself is unjust, you can't then put the genie back in the bottle.

00:50:31.000 So this is a trick that President Obama tried to play yesterday.

00:50:35.000 He put out a piece called, How to Make This Moment the Turning Point for Real Change.

00:50:38.000 And he says that basically America is endemically racist.

00:50:41.000 This is the same thing that he has been saying for years.

00:50:43.000 The DNA is in the American bloodstream.

00:50:45.000 The racist DNA is in America's bloodstream.

00:50:47.000 He says, I've heard some suggest the recurrent problem of racial bias in our criminal justice system proves that only protests and direct action can bring about change and that voting and participation in electoral politics is a waste of time.

00:50:57.000 I couldn't disagree more.

00:50:58.000 The point of protest is to raise public awareness, to put a spotlight on injustice, to make the powers that be uncomfortable.

00:51:04.000 In fact, throughout American history, it's often only been in response to protests and civil disobedience that the political system has even paid attention to marginalized communities.

00:51:11.000 But eventually, aspirations have to be translated into specific laws and institutional practices.

00:51:16.000 Okay, here's where the disconnect comes in.

00:51:18.000 Because once you declare the entire system is bankrupt top to bottom, Then no amount of voting within that system is going to cure the problem.

00:51:23.000 Once you suggest that the entire constitutional structure is ordered in order to keep black Americans down, once you suggest that the entire American philosophy is corrupt and cancerous, and that it is a tool that is used by the oppressors in order to oppress the oppressed, you cannot then claim, well, if you just vote within the system, then everything is going to be okay. 0.94

00:51:41.000 And this is what protesters are recognizing at a visceral gut level.

00:51:45.000 When Barack Obama says, you know, yeah, go protest, but then vote for your elected mayor, All the mayors in these cities are Democrats and have been for 50 years.

00:51:53.000 They are.

00:51:54.000 They voted.

00:51:55.000 People voted for the people that Barack Obama wanted them to vote for.

00:51:58.000 And guess what?

00:51:59.000 Those police forces are still doing all the things that Barack Obama says are racist and horrible.

00:52:03.000 And it doesn't matter that Eric Holder's Justice Department crammed down consent degrees without evidence against a wide variety of police forces across the country.

00:52:11.000 None of that matters.

00:52:12.000 The bottom line is that if you claim that the system is rotten top to bottom, you can't then claim that if you just vote for the right people within that system, then magically everything will be cured.

00:52:21.000 You can't have it both ways.

00:52:24.000 You cannot.

00:52:25.000 Barack Obama wants to have it both ways.

00:52:27.000 And so does Joe Biden.

00:52:28.000 And the protesters know that they've been oversold.

00:52:31.000 They've been oversold.

00:52:32.000 They've been told.

00:52:33.000 The Nicole Hannah-Jones story, the 1619 Project, 400 years of slavery continuing till today.

00:52:37.000 The Spike Lee, well, you know, everything is proportional, including violence.

00:52:41.000 Because after all, violence is done to black bodies every day in the United States.

00:52:45.000 The protesters hear that rhetoric, and they react to that rhetoric.

00:52:47.000 You think that telling them to go vote for old, slow Joe Biden is going to be a motivating factor in preventing the dissolution of the country?

00:52:55.000 That's not how this works.

00:52:57.000 And Joe Biden humoring this and going along with it, the protesters should rise up, says his spokeswoman.

00:53:02.000 You think that the protesters think that rising up amounts to voting for an 80-year-old white man who sponsored the 1994 crime bill?

00:53:08.000 Does that sound like rising up to you?

00:53:11.000 Most protesters understand on a gut level that what they are being asked to protest does not equal the outcome the Democrats are seeking right now.

00:53:19.000 Joe Biden was suggesting solutions yesterday to police brutality.

00:53:22.000 Here were his solutions to police brutality. 0.98

00:53:24.000 Let's teach cops to shoot people in the leg. 0.99

00:53:27.000 That's the solution to police brutality. 0.98

00:53:28.000 Here's Joe Biden yesterday.

00:53:33.000 The idea that if you vote for that senile old white man, that that is going to fix the problem that Democrats have been labeling as the root of the United States for years.

00:53:43.000 lot of different things that can change.

00:53:44.000 Like the idea that if you vote for that senile old white man, that that is going to fix the problem that Democrats have been labeling as the root of the United States for years, this career politician from Delaware.

00:53:56.000 Sure, sure.

00:53:58.000 And protesters know that, which is why, of course, nothing will be alleviated by Joe Biden being elected.

00:54:03.000 It may be papered over because the media will stop with the fire-breathing, it's-time-for-civil-war rhetoric.

00:54:09.000 Maybe it'll be papered over for a little while.

00:54:11.000 Maybe we'll get fewer essays in The Atlantic about how America's endemically racist when a Democrat is president.

00:54:15.000 After all, that story seems to go away a lot until it doesn't, right?

00:54:18.000 Until there's Ferguson or something.

00:54:21.000 But the notion that all the problems are alleviated by electing Democrats, that's what Barack Obama's pushing.

00:54:26.000 So they stoke the flames, stoke the flames, stoke the flames, and they're like, oh yeah, if you just vote for us, we'll fix it. 0.99

00:54:30.000 That bullshit ain't gonna work. 1.00

00:54:31.000 It is not going to work. 1.00

00:54:32.000 That bullcrap is not going to work.

00:54:35.000 Okay, meanwhile, I'll tell you something else that's not going to work. 0.95

00:54:39.000 So the media, right, left, and center, have been cheering a variety of officers kneeling with protesters.

00:54:45.000 Now, listen, officers have to do what they have to do in order to prevent violence right now.

00:54:50.000 I understand that.

00:54:50.000 And expressing solidarity with people who don't like police brutality is fine.

00:54:54.000 I severely reject the idea that kneeling is the correct symbol here.

00:55:00.000 It is not the correct symbol.

00:55:02.000 Kneeling was taken up by Colin Kaepernick as exactly the 1619 Project line. 0.88

00:55:06.000 America is deeply, endemically racist. 0.98

00:55:08.000 America is racist top to bottom. 0.95

00:55:09.000 And therefore I'm kneeling for the American flag because police brutality is representative of America more broadly and all police forces across the nation.

00:55:18.000 And so there's been all sorts of tape of people celebrating when police officers take a knee and showing solidarity.

00:55:22.000 Listen, police officers showing solidarity with people who are protesting police brutality is good.

00:55:27.000 Taking a knee and agreeing with the sort of Colin Kaepernickization of American politics is a very bad thing because the underlying message is not true.

00:55:35.000 It's a lie.

00:55:36.000 Colin Kaepernick was lying about America.

00:55:39.000 Kneeling for the American flag is lying about America.

00:55:42.000 And celebrating when police officers do this because the cause that is being pushed here is not the cause of anti-police brutality alone, because we all agree on that, but the idea that America is horribly racist across the board.

00:55:55.000 That is sheer and absolute nonsense, and it's going to be damaging.

00:55:58.000 And guess what?

00:55:59.000 It also is not going to alleviate the problem either.

00:56:01.000 Because let's be frank about this.

00:56:03.000 The first time... So there are a bunch of tapes of police officers expressing solidarity with citizens protesting police brutality.

00:56:08.000 And they should.

00:56:09.000 That's good.

00:56:10.000 Right?

00:56:10.000 That's good.

00:56:11.000 Does anyone believe, for one solitary minute, that the next time there's a case of police brutality in these cities, that there won't be renewed protests or riots?

00:56:21.000 Does anyone believe that?

00:56:23.000 Does anyone believe this is going to last more than the next 15 seconds?

00:56:25.000 It's a diffusing of the situation in front of the cops.

00:56:27.000 I get that.

00:56:28.000 But does anyone actually believe that, let's say, so yesterday there was tape of that NYPD chief of police hugging protesters.

00:56:34.000 First of all, just want to note here that the entire media were shaming you as murdering grandma if you went out in public without a face mask 50 feet from every other human being.

00:56:44.000 Now you're supposed to hug protesters with no mask in public, in New York, in crowds, with no one wearing a mask.

00:56:50.000 And no one cares.

00:56:52.000 This is a celebratory moment.

00:56:55.000 And watch, the way the media will play this is then there will be an uptick in the number of COVID cases over the next two weeks.

00:57:01.000 And then it'll be, oh look, there's an uptick in the number of COVID cases, and it's targeting Black and Hispanic communities.

00:57:06.000 You can't have it both ways.

00:57:07.000 If you're going to say that the protests are deeply important, and so we are going to ignore all of the COVID regulations because we like these protests, and those protests are disproportionately minority, and then there's a disproportionate outbreak from the protests, Okay, that's not American racism.

00:57:21.000 That's just called cause and effect.

00:57:23.000 But put aside all of the COVID of all of this, and it is indicative of the media's insanity that the hot take here is that COVID is only something worth talking about when we're talking about lockdown protests, but when you have tens of thousands of people marching in the street and screaming and getting spit all over each other, right, which is what you do when you protest, that that's totally okay.

00:57:40.000 But does anyone believe, that's the NYPD chief of police.

00:57:43.000 The next time that there's an issue with police brutality or disputed circumstance with police, does anyone believe that if the NYPD chief of police comes out and says, we all oppose this stuff, that he's going to be believed?

00:57:54.000 Seriously, does anyone think that's what's going to happen?

00:57:57.000 Does anyone think that when the police officers in Seattle go out there and kneel with the protesters, that the next time there's an incident that gets caught on tape of a disputed circumstance with a cop, that the next wave of protesters are going to be like, oh, no, you know, they're good guys.

00:58:09.000 I remember last time when they kneeled with us.

00:58:11.000 I remember last time when they came out and showed solidarity with us.

00:58:13.000 Does anyone believe that that's what's going to happen?

00:58:15.000 The answer, of course, is no, because none of this actually solves the underlying problems.

00:58:19.000 The underlying problem is manifest distrust between a large swath of American citizens and the police.

00:58:25.000 And the attempts to bridge that trust gap by having the police express sympathy for the population.

00:58:31.000 That's good.

00:58:32.000 By the way, cops do this routinely when they're not on tape.

00:58:35.000 Cops do this all the time. 1.00

00:58:36.000 All the time.

00:58:37.000 But the idea that if you kneel with people and admit generalized American racism, that this is somehow going to alleviate the problem, it's not true.

00:58:46.000 Because all that's going to happen is the next time something happens, they're going to say, even you recognize that American racism is at root of this entire problem.

00:58:53.000 So here's all I'm saying.

00:58:55.000 Express sympathy.

00:58:56.000 Everyone is on the same page on police brutality for the one millionth time.

00:59:00.000 Express sympathy for people who are fighting against police brutality. 0.96

00:59:04.000 But do not admit to the lie that America is in favor of police brutality, that America is endemically racist, that America is incurably racist, that the American system is attempting to exterminate black people. 0.85

00:59:13.000 It is not true.

00:59:15.000 And police are doing themselves and no one else any favors by exceeding in that particular line of attack.

00:59:22.000 You wanna go out and give people hugs?

00:59:23.000 Go for it.

00:59:24.000 Seriously.

00:59:25.000 Like, go for it.

00:59:25.000 Aside from all the COVID stuff.

00:59:27.000 Go for it.

00:59:27.000 Like, what the NYPD chief does right there, giving people hugs, is significantly... I think it's positive.

00:59:32.000 I think that's good.

00:59:33.000 Kneeling.

00:59:35.000 Using the symbology of the Colin Kaepernick, America is evil.

00:59:39.000 Betsy Ross's flag is a symbol of racism movement. 0.90

00:59:41.000 That's not good for the country.

00:59:42.000 It's not unifying.

00:59:44.000 And that unity is going to last approximately another 27 seconds until there's another bad tape that comes out, at which point the unity immediately dissipates and we go back to the endemic levels of mistrust that have been promulgated by the media and will continue to be promulgated by the media no matter what the cops do.

00:59:58.000 And meanwhile, today is apparently, they're calling it Blackout Tuesday.

01:00:04.000 So Blackout Tuesday is basically a bunch of companies now saying that they are not going to do business today and putting out woke statements about the levels of racism in American society, which begs the question, if you guys are all such racists, name the racists on your board and fire them.

01:00:20.000 Really, I mean, if you have to come out and say this, I don't know Who needs to hear from corporate America, which, again, it's illegal to engage in racially discriminatory activity as a private business in the United States.

01:00:34.000 That's illegal by federal law.

01:00:36.000 And by every state's law, too, by the way.

01:00:40.000 If they're racist within your midst, let's hear about them.

01:00:43.000 Like, who are they and what are they doing?

01:00:45.000 And how are they impacting policy?

01:00:47.000 But what this really is, is now we have reached the point where basically businesses are afraid that they are going to be blackmailed if they do not put out social justice warrior statements about how America is endemically racist.

01:00:58.000 Corporations are out there to make money.

01:01:00.000 They understand that the levels of risk attendant in not making quote-unquote anti-racist statements is very high.

01:01:08.000 Now again, I'm not saying that people aren't entitled to their opinions or that corporations can't put out these statements.

01:01:13.000 They absolutely can.

01:01:14.000 But I'm telling you, you're a sucker if you believe that Foot Locker is spending each and every day considering the 1619 Project as opposed to they see people who are pressuring them outside and now they are attempting to basically buy their way into your good graces by putting out an ad. 0.76

01:01:29.000 By the way, which is not going to work. 0.98

01:01:30.000 Nike got looted last night in New York City.

01:01:32.000 Nike put out an ad about how America was horribly racist, and we can't- Don't do it. 0.98

01:01:36.000 Who is- That ad was so ridiculous. 0.99

01:01:38.000 Don't do it. 0.97

01:01:39.000 Who's doing it? 0.99

01:01:40.000 Are you putting your knee on the neck of a black person today? 0.99

01:01:42.000 I'm not. 0.99

01:01:44.000 That's called evil.

01:01:45.000 Nobody's doing it.

01:01:45.000 Except that one cop.

01:01:46.000 Who's going to go to jail?

01:01:48.000 And should go to jail.

01:01:49.000 Because it was atrocious.

01:01:50.000 It was an atrocity.

01:01:53.000 But Nike tried to buy its way into the good graces of the social justice warrior left. 0.99

01:01:59.000 And that is a dangerous thing, because here's the thing.

01:02:00.000 The social justice warrior left isn't just involved in attempting to push a lie about America more broadly.

01:02:06.000 Once they have their foot wedged in the door, then they can militarize all of American business in favor of their favorite political causes. 0.77

01:02:12.000 And this is what you've seen the hard left doing for a long time.

01:02:16.000 If you disagree with the hard left on an issue, they will then suggest that you're not woke enough and they will have you fired from your job.

01:02:22.000 This is part of the politicization of an area of American life that does not need to be political and should not be political.

01:02:30.000 Target should not be political.

01:02:32.000 It shouldn't.

01:02:33.000 That doesn't mean that they should be pro-racist. 0.98

01:02:36.000 Again, the conflation of anti-racist with agreeing with everything that Ta-Nehisi Coates writes is absolutely asinine. 0.95

01:02:44.000 Target is not racist because they don't discriminate against black customers. 0.95

01:02:47.000 Target does not need to put out statements about Black Lives Matter.

01:02:51.000 Because Target is a store. 0.98

01:02:53.000 They are not involved in killing black people. 0.97

01:02:55.000 They're not involved in discriminating against black people. 0.98

01:02:57.000 The attempt to impute guilt to people who do not repeat your preferred formulations is utterly insane and ideologically tyrannical.

01:03:08.000 It turns out that silence does not mean that somebody opposes you.

01:03:11.000 Maybe silence is because that's not in their purview.

01:03:14.000 It is not indi... You know, we hear this rightly with regard to terrorist attacks. 1.00

01:03:19.000 So every time there's a terrorist attack, There are a bunch of people who say, let's say it's a Muslim terrorist attack, a radical Islamist terrorist attack.

01:03:24.000 There are a bunch of people who will say things like, the Muslim community is not obligated to come out and condemn terror attacks because they weren't involved in the terror attack.

01:03:32.000 I kind of agree with that.

01:03:34.000 I don't think it's up to every Jew to condemn something bad when a Jew does it. 1.00

01:03:38.000 And I don't think it's up to every black person to condemn something bad when a black person does it. 1.00

01:03:42.000 And I don't think it's up to every white person to condemn something bad when a white person does it, or when a white person did it 150 or 200 years ago.

01:03:49.000 And I don't think it's the job of Target to condemn activity in which they were not involved.

01:03:52.000 The attempt to hold people accountable for activities in which they are not involved so that you can get them to basically repeat your preferred nostrums of the day is really dangerous.

01:04:01.000 It's really dangerous because it doesn't allow any area where we can be apolitical.

01:04:05.000 It doesn't allow any area where you are allowed to disagree.

01:04:07.000 Basically, silence will be taken as resistance to the dominant social justice warrior narrative, and then as an excuse to hurt you.

01:04:16.000 Well, Target didn't put out its virtue signaling statement today.

01:04:18.000 That means it's time to loot Target.

01:04:19.000 Obviously, they're not anti-racist.

01:04:20.000 It's not enough to be against racism.

01:04:22.000 You have to be actively anti-racism and Target didn't put out a statement.

01:04:26.000 If you believe that the shareholders at Target or the board at Target were motivated by pure, unbridled belief in Black Lives Matter to put out statements, as opposed to, you know, public pressure, then you're wrong.

01:04:37.000 And if you believe that that sort of pressure is good for the country, get ready for a lot more, a lot more polarization in the country.

01:04:45.000 Because guess what?

01:04:46.000 Most people just want to be left alone.

01:04:48.000 Most people just want to be left alone.

01:04:50.000 And most people are not appreciative of the root justification for this kind of stuff, which is if you don't say anything about the Black Lives Matter system, it's because you don't care about black lives.

01:05:02.000 Most people don't want to be bullied into opinions. 0.97

01:05:04.000 They don't want to be bullied into opinions with the implication that if you disagree with my specific agenda, it's because you're a horrible person.

01:05:11.000 As opposed to maybe we just have differences in our viewpoint.

01:05:15.000 So, again, corporate cowardice combined with pressure tactics by the media.

01:05:21.000 The country is becoming a worse place every day because of these things.

01:05:26.000 Again, in a time when we should all agree on this stuff.

01:05:29.000 We should all agree on this stuff.

01:05:31.000 The attempt to polarize on stuff where we all agree is insane.

01:05:35.000 Insane.

01:05:36.000 Alrighty, well, we'll be back here later today with two additional hours of content.

01:05:40.000 Otherwise, we'll see you here tomorrow.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - June 02, 2020

The End Of America? | Ep. 1022

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