The Ben Shapiro Show - The End Of Legitimate Elections | Ep. 912

00:00:00.000 Democrats prepare to declare the 2020 election illegitimate, a terrorist attack strains U.S.-Saudi relations, and the media take Nikki Haley wildly out of context.

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00:00:21.000 Well, I hope you had a wonderful weekend.

00:00:22.000 We're back here on a Monday, and that means it's impeachment time, man.

00:00:25.000 It's time for some impeachment talk.

00:00:27.000 So where are we in Impeachment Gate 2019?

00:00:30.000 Well, the Democrats are apparently planning to have this vote maybe before Christmas.

00:00:34.000 They're not talking about having this impeachment vote as early as this week, and they are rushing this thing through.

00:00:39.000 Today's impeachment hearings at the House Judiciary Committee They feature a bevy of Democratic lawyers because that's just what you need. 0.77

00:00:47.000 I'm very convinced.

00:00:48.000 Now that I know a bunch of Democratic partisan hacks like Barry Burke are speaking, this has totally changed my opinion of everything.

00:00:53.000 Barry Burke is a longtime Democratic partisan.

00:00:55.000 He's written a bunch for the Brookings Institute.

00:00:57.000 He suggested that Trump was guilty of collusion with regard to Russia.

00:01:01.000 He suggested that Trump was guilty of obstruction with regard to the Mueller investigation.

00:01:05.000 He was working for the House Judiciary Committee as early as February.

00:01:08.000 He actually left his law firm to work for the House Judiciary Committee in February.

00:01:11.000 Now, you may be asking yourself, Well, why was he working for the House Judiciary Committee in February when the Ukraine stuff only began to happen in like May and June?

00:01:21.000 And the answer is because Barry Burke has been pro-impeachment for a very long time.

00:01:25.000 But now we are supposed to take it with the utmost seriousness when the Democrats call forth people who have been for impeachment for years to say that actually they discovered an impeachable offense.

00:01:34.000 I mean, it's like amazing.

00:01:36.000 Unbelievably enough, Barry Burke, who really has been in favor of impeachment for years, All the constitutional experts who testified recognize that obstructing an investigation is an impeachable offense.

00:01:44.000 for the House Democrats testifying what House Democrats want to hear, which is that House Democrats should impeach President Trump.

00:01:50.000 All the constitutional experts who testified recognized that obstructing an investigation is an impeachable offense.

00:01:56.000 But here, the offense we're talking about that's being interfered or obstructed with is interfering with this very election that's coming up.

00:02:03.000 And I submit to you, given what happened with the Department of Justice investigation, given what's happening here, if in fact President Trump can get away with what he did again, our imagination is the only limit to what President Trump may do next, or what our imagination is the only limit to what President Trump may do next, or what a future president may do next, to try to abuse his or her power, to serve his own personal you're Your imagination is the only limit.

00:02:33.000 Wow, I have a pretty wild imagination, as it turns out.

00:02:36.000 Would it be considered abuse of power if a president, say, said directly to the Russian government that he would grant them extra flexibility on foreign policy?

00:02:42.000 Should they be nice to him before the election?

00:02:43.000 Would that be an abuse of power, per se?

00:02:45.000 You know, like just before an election, like Barack Obama did in 2012?

00:02:48.000 How about like if Bill Clinton were taking money from Chinese cutouts back in the 1996 election and simultaneously declassifying nuclear secrets.

00:02:57.000 Would that be a problem?

00:02:59.000 Again, it turns out that the presidency has a long history of manipulation with regard to politics.

00:03:05.000 But why are we supposed to take Barry Burke seriously?

00:03:07.000 The answer is because the media want you to take Barry Burke seriously.

00:03:10.000 But there's something that's deeper that's going on.

00:03:12.000 With regard to the House Democrats impeachment effort.

00:03:15.000 And it really has very little to do with the offenses supposedly committed by Trump with regard to Ukraine.

00:03:20.000 Again, none of this is defense of Trump's activity in Ukraine, other than to say this is not warranting of impeachment.

00:03:25.000 The Democrats wildly overplayed their hand here.

00:03:27.000 They should have gone for censure.

00:03:28.000 If they'd gone for censure, they probably could have peeled off a few Republicans to vote in favor of censuring Trump.

00:03:33.000 But they went for impeachment, and that makes the Republican case very easy, which is you don't have the necessary goods on President Trump For impeachment, but it really isn't about that.

00:03:40.000 It's about something else and something that actually is quite dangerous for the Republic.

00:03:44.000 Not just misusing impeachment, which, again, I'm not super bothered by parties misusing impeachment.

00:03:50.000 Impeachment was always a political power.

00:03:52.000 I'm much more bothered by something else.

00:03:53.000 A real danger, I think, to the Republic, and it doesn't come from presidential abusive power.

00:03:57.000 That's always been a danger.

00:03:59.000 It's something that's a little different this time.

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00:05:28.000 Okay, so.

00:05:29.000 Why are the Democrats doing all of this?

00:05:32.000 Because they're setting up an argument that's going to be made about 2020 that they also made about 2016.

00:05:37.000 We have now had four elections in the past 20 years or so in which Republicans have won the presidency.

00:05:44.000 We had Bush 2000, Bush 2004, Donald Trump 2016, and maybe Donald Trump 2020.

00:05:49.000 Donald Trump were to win in 2020.

00:05:51.000 Not one of those elections have Democrats deemed legitimate.

00:05:54.000 In 2004, they said it was illegitimate because Bush was not legitimately elected in 2000.

00:05:57.000 They said that Al Gore was elected in 2000 because Gore won the popular vote, despite the fact that Gore did not actually win the vote in Florida, and they tried to manipulate as much as they could.

00:06:06.000 They tried to count certain ballots and not count other ballots in order to achieve their desired result.

00:06:10.000 The bottom line is, Bush won that election.

00:06:12.000 Hey, Democrats never accepted that he won that election, which means that everything that he did, in terms of shaping the Supreme Court afterward, is illegitimate, according to Democrats.

00:06:20.000 2004, because 2000, according to Democrats, was illegitimate, is also illegitimate.

00:06:25.000 2016, according to Democrats, is illegitimate, not just because Trump lost the popular vote, but because of quote-unquote Russian interference.

00:06:31.000 Doesn't matter, by the way.

00:06:32.000 That they still have not shown how that Russian interference swung the election to Trump.

00:06:38.000 This is always the dot that's never connected.

00:06:39.000 It's just not connected.

00:06:41.000 Democrats will say things like, well, the Russians were involved in the 2016 election and that shifted the election.

00:06:47.000 I need the evidence that it shifted the election.

00:06:48.000 I know they were trying to manipulate, but do you really believe that a few Facebook memes shifted the election in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania?

00:06:55.000 Is that truly what you believe?

00:06:57.000 Because as someone who is one of the, my personal Facebook page is one of the most highly trafficked Facebook pages on Facebook, and I can tell you the statistics that were shown by the Senate Intelligence Committee about the reach and power of Russian posts on Facebook, it was minimal.

00:07:12.000 Really minimal.

00:07:13.000 I mean, when people say, oh, this vast Russian campaign.

00:07:16.000 Okay, the vast Russian... The only case that you can make that the Russians really impacted the 2016 election is that the Russians were working with Wikileaks and they were sending out those DNC emails.

00:07:25.000 That at least is a fair case, because it shifted the nature of the election.

00:07:28.000 But again, if that had not come from the Russians, then it would have made a difference.

00:07:32.000 And also, Is that Russian manipulation or Wikileaks manipulation?

00:07:36.000 Even if it's Russian manipulation, let's assume that's Russian manipulation. 0.72

00:07:39.000 That's not Trump-Russia collusion, number one.

00:07:41.000 And number two, the other element of the Russian manipulation that Democrats are constantly talking about is the Facebook post with all of that.

00:07:47.000 So again, the best case that the Russians manipulated the 2016 election has to do with the release of those DNC emails where John Podesta was phished and then all of those emails were released.

00:07:57.000 You'd have to show that in the absence of the release of those DNC emails that the Democrats still don't lose that election because it turns out that the bigger issue was not what was in those DNC emails, which again was part of the campaign but certainly not the entirety of the campaign.

00:08:09.000 The biggest issue in the 2016 election was that Hillary Clinton had taken 33,000 class emails and put them on her private homebrew server in her bathroom and then they disappeared and then she bleach bit the thing. 1.00

00:08:21.000 Right, that was a bigger issue.

00:08:22.000 That's what Trump really honed in on.

00:08:24.000 So yeah, it caused some chaos that Jon Podesta was emailing mean things about Bernie Sanders and such.

00:08:28.000 But did that shape the entire outcome of the election?

00:08:31.000 Hard to say.

00:08:32.000 It's very difficult to say that a single factor in isolation shifted the nature of the election.

00:08:37.000 It certainly wasn't the Facebook manipulation that the Russians were engaged in.

00:08:39.000 That much I can certainly say.

00:08:41.000 Okay.

00:08:41.000 With all of that said, the Democrats refuse to accept the results of the 2016 election.

00:08:45.000 They see it as completely illegitimate.

00:08:46.000 They believe that Hillary Clinton was the elected president.

00:08:48.000 And we've seen the Democrats extend this line of thought to the George Governor's race, for example, where Stacey Abrams lost by 50,000 votes.

00:08:55.000 You can say that that's a close election.

00:08:57.000 It is percentage-wise.

00:08:58.000 It is not in terms of absolute vote.

00:09:00.000 Stacey Abrams lost by a fairly large margin in the absolute vote in Georgia. 0.98

00:09:04.000 Democrats still claim that Stacey Abrams was the fairly elected governor of Georgia.

00:09:08.000 So now moving forward to 2020, what Democrats are attempting to do with this impeachment effort is set up an argument that if Donald Trump is elected in 2020, it's because of Ukraine manipulation.

00:09:18.000 That if it were not for Trump interfering in Ukraine and trying to militarize American military aid to Ukraine in order to get dirt on Joe Biden, that Trump wouldn't have won the 2020 election.

00:09:27.000 They're setting this thing up in advance.

00:09:29.000 This is why they say it's urgent to get Trump out now.

00:09:31.000 They say if we don't get Trump out now, then Trump will manipulate 2020 just the way he manipulated 2016.

00:09:36.000 Well, you cannot have a functional republic when people do not accept the results of elections.

00:09:41.000 This used to be a Democrat talking point.

00:09:42.000 They said this in 2015-2016 about Trump.

00:09:44.000 They said, Trump's never going to accept the results of the 2016 election.

00:09:48.000 And he's just going to agitate from the outside.

00:09:50.000 And then we're not going to be able to have a republic.

00:09:51.000 Because the truth is, what holds a republic together... Yoni Appledam had a piece like this over at The Atlantic making this argument.

00:09:59.000 What holds a republic together is your feeling that the pain that you experience staying in the republic is less egregious than the pain that you would experience leaving the republic.

00:10:12.000 In other words, you have to feel as though even if you lost the election, number one, it's not a threat to your very way of life, and number two, you have to feel like the election was legitimate.

00:10:20.000 Those two factors have to be there.

00:10:22.000 Well, Democrats are tearing away at both of those factors right now.

00:10:25.000 They're saying that Trump is not only a threat to your way of life, he's an incipient Hitler, right?

00:10:29.000 This guy is going to vi- Your imagination is the only limit on the boundaries of what President Trump will do to violate the American compact.

00:10:35.000 And number two, his election is illegitimate, right?

00:10:37.000 They're setting this thing up in advance.

00:10:39.000 In a second, I'm going to show you Jerry Nadler Jerry Nadler saying this openly, I mean saying openly that if Donald Trump is not impeached that he will cheat and that the election will be skewed and that nobody should accept it.

00:10:52.000 We're living in a very dangerous, this is dangerous stuff.

00:10:54.000 It is.

00:10:54.000 And by the way, it was dangerous if Trump had not accepted the results of the 2016 election if Hillary Clinton won.

00:10:59.000 It would be dangerous if in 2020 a Democrat were to win and Donald Trump were to sit outside and say this election was not fair and I don't accept the result of the election.

00:11:09.000 That's dangerous.

00:11:09.000 The one good thing that Al Gore did, in short-lived fashion, but the one good thing that Al Gore did is after he lost that election, he said, okay, George W. Bush is president of the United States now.

00:11:18.000 That was a good thing that Al Gore did and a worthwhile thing that Al Gore did.

00:11:22.000 If we are not coming to the point where Democrats refuse to accept the results of elections they lose, we got a problem.

00:11:28.000 And if Republicans do the same thing, we don't have a Republic anymore.

00:11:31.000 We just have people clubbing each other over the head.

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00:12:54.000 Okay, so Jerry Nadler, who is the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, He comes out over the weekend.

00:12:58.000 He's on Chuck Todd.

00:12:59.000 And he says that if Trump isn't impeached, the 2020 election may not be fair.

00:13:05.000 And so the corollary would be, so we may not actually respect the results.

00:13:09.000 Here's Jerry Nadler.

00:13:10.000 We also are faced with a very direct threat that this president put himself repeatedly above the interest of the country and poses a threat to the integrity of the next election.

00:13:20.000 That's not something we were talking about 20 years ago.

00:13:24.000 He poses a threat to the integrity of the next election if he's allowed to continue to do what he's doing.

00:13:29.000 Okay, that right there is a pre-emptive claim by Jerry Nadler that whatever happens in the next election, if a Republican wins, it's corrupt.

00:13:36.000 That's supremely disturbing.

00:13:38.000 It should be upsetting to everybody.

00:13:40.000 Again, this was one of Hillary Clinton's big pitches in 2016. 1.00

00:13:43.000 Now she's wandering around the woods of Chappaqua explaining that she's the actual president of the United States.

00:13:48.000 We have not had, according to the Democrats, a legitimately elected Republican president in this country since 1988.

00:13:56.000 According to Democrats.

00:13:57.000 Since I was four years old, we have not had a legitimately elected Republican president in this country since I was a four-year-old child, according to the Democrats.

00:14:05.000 And that is because, again, Bush was illegitimate, and now Trump is illegitimate.

00:14:10.000 And then Democrats wonder why Republicans look at them and they say, okay, well, we don't trust you with power.

00:14:17.000 Why would we trust you with power?

00:14:18.000 You think every time people dismiss your concerns, your political concerns, every time you think that people overrule you and think that you're wrong, that that is because the American people are not actually overruling you and thinking you are wrong.

00:14:31.000 According to Democrats, Democrats have never been wrong.

00:14:34.000 The American people have just been screwed in some way by the electoral system.

00:14:38.000 It's why you see Elizabeth Warren running around saying the Electoral College is unfair. 1.00

00:14:42.000 It's why you see the Democrats running around for the past several years saying the United States Senate should be reconstituted according to population, which of course defeats the purpose of the United States Senate.

00:14:51.000 The Democrats, for all the talk about Trump as a threat to the system, Trump has not actually threatened the system.

00:14:56.000 Trump, like really, what is the giant threat to the system that Donald Trump has provided?

00:15:01.000 So far, Donald Trump has done less with executive orders than Barack Obama did.

00:15:06.000 He hasn't been droning American citizens overseas the way that Barack Obama was, so far as I'm aware.

00:15:11.000 He's continued to drone more, but not nearly at the same rate that Barack Obama was.

00:15:16.000 He certainly didn't militarize the IRS the way that Obama's IRS was militarized.

00:15:20.000 He didn't militarize his HHS the way that Barack Obama militarized his HHS.

00:15:24.000 So where is the threat to the press?

00:15:26.000 Where's the threat to the press?

00:15:27.000 He hasn't been going after members of the press and trying to jail them and phone tap them the way that Barack Obama's DOJ was.

00:15:34.000 So where exactly is the threat?

00:15:36.000 The threat, according to the Democrats, is in Trump's personal behavior.

00:15:39.000 That Trump acts transactionally with regard to the presidency.

00:15:43.000 And again, I don't think that there is untruth to that.

00:15:45.000 I think a lot more president, I think he's just more obvious about it than other presidents.

00:15:48.000 I think Barack Obama did too.

00:15:49.000 I think Obama was just elegant and subtle in a way that Donald Trump is not.

00:15:52.000 I mean, Donald Trump is a direct rebuttal to the subtlety and elegance of Barack Obama in a variety of ways for both good and bad.

00:16:00.000 But with that said, if you're talking about threats to the system, Democrats are openly calling for the overthrow of the Electoral College, they want the reconstitution of the United States Senate, and they are saying that if Donald Trump wins in 2020, it is fundamentally illegitimate.

00:16:13.000 At the outset.

00:16:14.000 From the beginning, it is fundamentally illegitimate.

00:16:16.000 And it's not just Jerry Nadler.

00:16:18.000 Al Green, the representative from New York, who's been trying to impeach Trump since literally the first day that Trump was in office.

00:16:24.000 Al Green says that Trump has to be thrown out of office, not because Donald Trump has committed some sort of impeachable crime, but because Donald Trump is a bad man who represents the history of slavery in America.

00:16:36.000 If you believe that Donald Trump is a representative of slavery in the United States, and also that if he wins election, it's fundamentally illegitimate, How do you live in a country with people who believe that every election is stolen from them?

00:16:50.000 I don't know how that's gonna work.

00:16:52.000 And by the way, I'm scared of that on the other side too.

00:16:54.000 I am.

00:16:55.000 The fact is that if Donald Trump loses, and if Donald Trump then goes out and he says, this election was stolen from me for whatever reason, right?

00:17:02.000 He can complain about the media.

00:17:03.000 The media hate him.

00:17:03.000 That's fair.

00:17:04.000 He can complain about the fact that the Democrats lie about him routinely.

00:17:07.000 We'll get to that in a second.

00:17:08.000 They do.

00:17:09.000 Okay, but if Trump loses in 2020, and then he comes back the next day and he says, actually, I didn't lose.

00:17:14.000 Actually, I won.

00:17:16.000 And people believe him.

00:17:18.000 We got a problem.

00:17:19.000 You have to accept the results of elections. 0.98

00:17:21.000 But Democrats never have, and this is the great hypocrisy of Democrats.

00:17:23.000 They were blaming Trump for this preemptively, and they have yet to accept the result of an election since, again, for 20 years they keep saying that Republicans who are elected are not actually elected.

00:17:34.000 Meanwhile, you have actual manipulated elections like Norm Coleman versus Al Franken in the state of Minnesota, where votes are magically discovered after the final count is in.

00:17:42.000 Or the Dino Rossi race in Washington state, A few years back, where a Democrat suddenly discovers votes that puts the Democrat over the top.

00:17:49.000 Like, those are actual questionable elections.

00:17:51.000 But I'm sorry, 2016, as far as the actual vote count, was not a questionable election.

00:17:56.000 And Donald Trump did not coordinate with the Russians, as the Mueller Report found.

00:18:00.000 And yet we are still told he's illegitimate.

00:18:02.000 And now the Democrats are playing up that Trump is illegitimate going into 2020.

00:18:05.000 And no matter what happens, he will be illegitimate even if he wins.

00:18:09.000 Also, he happens to be a vicious pro-slavery racist, according to Al Green.

00:18:13.000 So, things are going well in the country.

00:18:16.000 I do believe, ma'am, that we have to deal with the original sin.

00:18:22.000 We have to deal with slavery.

00:18:25.000 Slavery was the thing that put all of what President Trump has done lately into motion.

00:18:32.000 But until we deal with the issue of invidious discrimination as it relates to LGBTQ community, the anti-Semitism, the racism, the Islamophobia, the transphobia, and also the misogyny that he has exemplified, I don't think our work is done.

00:18:51.000 Okay, what the hell does that have to do with impeachment exactly?

00:18:54.000 Remember, the question before that was an impeachment question.

00:18:57.000 What does that have to do with impeachment?

00:18:58.000 And by the way, again, Nancy Pelosi is engaged in this sort of language.

00:19:02.000 So, here's what we've learned from the Democrats.

00:19:03.000 If Donald Trump is re-elected, or if he is not impeached, the civilization itself is at stake.

00:19:08.000 Nancy Pelosi says this.

00:19:09.000 The civilization is at stake.

00:19:11.000 Also, if he is elected, it's illegitimate.

00:19:15.000 I mean, I can't think of much more of a recipe for chaos and conflict than that.

00:19:18.000 that.

00:19:18.000 Here's Nancy Pelosi saying, American civilization is at stake if Donald Trump is not impeached over Ukraine.

00:19:23.000 Sure.

00:19:25.000 And what does America...

00:19:27.000 Our values.

00:19:28.000 Values of what we care about as a nation.

00:19:31.000 A model, a beacon of hope to the world.

00:19:35.000 And he devalues that.

00:19:37.000 So, again, we don't agonize, we organize.

00:19:41.000 And we do so in a way that, again, is unifying for our country.

00:19:46.000 It is absolutely imperative.

00:19:49.000 Civilization, as we know it today, is at stake in the next election.

00:19:54.000 Civilization is at stake in the next election.

00:19:55.000 If Donald Trump wins, civilization is over.

00:19:58.000 It's oh, by the way, I didn't like this language when Republicans used it about Hillary Clinton in 2016.

00:20:01.000 Go back and listen to my podcasts.

00:20:04.000 You can hear it.

00:20:05.000 You know, the idea that America was over if Hillary Clinton won.

00:20:08.000 Yes, America would have been worse if Hillary Clinton won than if Donald Trump won. 1.00

00:20:11.000 But was civilization over?

00:20:12.000 Were you gonna go home and sell your house and pack up and move to New Zealand?

00:20:16.000 The answer was no, because the civilization isn't close to over.

00:20:19.000 We're the greatest civilization in the history of mankind.

00:20:21.000 No, it was not.

00:20:21.000 No.

00:20:24.000 This is dangerous, dangerous stuff.

00:20:26.000 By the way, I'll just note that Nancy Pelosi, the same person who last week was suggesting that it would be ridiculous to say that she hates the president and that's why she's impeaching.

00:20:33.000 Back in 1998, she said the only reason Republicans were impeaching was because they hated President Clinton.

00:20:38.000 Today, the Republican majority is not judging the president with fairness, but impeaching him with a vengeance.

00:20:46.000 In the investigation of the president, fundamental principles which Americans hold dear Privacy, fairness, checks and balances have been seriously violated.

00:20:56.000 And why?

00:20:58.000 Because we are here today because the Republicans in the House are paralyzed with hatred of President Clinton.

00:21:06.000 And until the Republicans free themselves of this hatred, our country will suffer.

00:21:12.000 Amazing.

00:21:12.000 This is the same person who said you should never use hatred about impeachment in me.

00:21:15.000 I'm a Catholic.

00:21:17.000 Mm-hmm.

00:21:18.000 Okay, we'll get to more of this in just one second, and we'll get to the added incendiary factor here of media malfeasance when it comes to coverage of our politics, because the media just lied about our politics on a routine basis.

00:21:30.000 It's astonishing.

00:21:31.000 We'll get to that in just one second.

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00:23:42.000 It is.

00:23:42.000 So we have a few factors that are militating in favor of heightened conflict right now in the United States come 2020.

00:23:48.000 I mean, it feels like fever pitch.

00:23:49.000 It does.

00:23:50.000 And I will say, I think that part of the reason that Democrats are pushing the feeling of fever pitch is a sort of a tacit threat.

00:23:57.000 If you reelect Trump, there will be people in the streets.

00:23:59.000 This chaos will continue.

00:24:00.000 And it's not just Trumpian chaos. 1.00

00:24:02.000 It's not just that Trump is a Crazy man, you don't know what he's gonna do. 0.99

00:24:05.000 We are not going to allow the country to go back to a certain level of stasis. 0.98

00:24:09.000 The fact is the economy right now is historically booming.

00:24:12.000 It's as good as it has ever been in the history of the United States.

00:24:15.000 We are at the lowest unemployment rates in American history for the last 100 years.

00:24:21.000 Since 1969, we have not had unemployment rates this low.

00:24:25.000 We have a booming stock market.

00:24:26.000 It's up around 28,000.

00:24:27.000 These are enormous, enormous numbers.

00:24:30.000 We should be pretty happy, right?

00:24:31.000 Things are going fairly well.

00:24:33.000 We are not engaged in any massive foreign conflict.

00:24:35.000 Yes, we have long-lasting wars in places like Afghanistan, places like Syria, but those are low-level conflicts.

00:24:42.000 There's no draft.

00:24:42.000 Like, we're not in the middle of a massive foreign campaign.

00:24:45.000 Like, things are actually pretty good.

00:24:46.000 And most Americans walking around the country today don't feel terrible about the country or feel bad about themselves.

00:24:52.000 But the media, the Democrats, they're trying to suggest that civilization itself is at stake.

00:24:57.000 We've had three years of Donald Trump.

00:24:58.000 Has civilization been completely destroyed by Donald Trump?

00:25:03.000 I don't like a lot of the things the guy says.

00:25:04.000 You don't like a lot of the things the guy says.

00:25:06.000 But the economy's good.

00:25:07.000 We're doing okay on foreign policy.

00:25:10.000 The attempt to heighten the chaos is one of the things the Democrats and the media want to do, because if you heighten the chaos, then it provides the contrast of a quote-unquote back-to-normalcy campaign for the Democrats.

00:25:20.000 This is why Joe Biden is doing well in the general polling.

00:25:22.000 It's also why he's doing well in the primary polling, because most Americans are tired.

00:25:26.000 They are tired of this.

00:25:28.000 It's why I've said that I think President Trump needs to tone it down.

00:25:30.000 He doesn't have to play into it, but this is also a purposeful plan.

00:25:34.000 By some people in the media.

00:25:36.000 Many in the media would like to see this conflict heightened.

00:25:40.000 Make the stakes higher.

00:25:41.000 Because the higher you make the stakes, the more you can get your voting base out to vote.

00:25:44.000 And convince moderates that all of this will just go away.

00:25:47.000 Everything will go back to normal.

00:25:48.000 Everybody will calm down if Joe Biden becomes President of the United States.

00:25:52.000 Okay, so let's get to the media.

00:25:54.000 So we've had over the past few weeks, we've had past few years, we've had Democrats claim fundamental American institutions, like key American institutions need to go because they're not democratic. 0.70

00:26:05.000 We've heard that Republicans are vicious racists.

00:26:07.000 We want to put y'all back in chains in the word of Joe Biden about Mitt Romney, the most milquetoast human being who has ever walked the earth. 0.83

00:26:13.000 We've heard from Democrats that they want to get rid of the Electoral College, they want to rewrite the U.S.

00:26:18.000 Senate, they want to stack the Supreme Court, because Republicans are a threat to everything you hold dear, and every time Republicans win a presidential election, it's illegitimate. 0.92

00:26:25.000 And by the way, if Donald Trump wins in 2020, it's because he wasn't impeached and because he is And because he's militarizing American foreign policy in order to benefit himself in the 2020 election.

00:26:34.000 Add on top of that the media claiming that Republicans are invariably and always crazy people and the media covering these things in incredibly false ways.

00:26:43.000 So let me give you a couple of quick examples.

00:26:45.000 First example is about President Trump.

00:26:47.000 So President Trump over the weekend, speaks at this pro-Israel council, the Israeli-American council.

00:26:55.000 And he says a couple of things.

00:26:57.000 And Democrats, particularly reporters from places like Vox, or activists from places like Media Matters, they immediately clip these things out of context in order to suggest that President Trump is a vicious anti-Semite while he's being cheered loudly by the Israeli-American council.

00:27:13.000 A lot of you are in the real estate business because I know you very well. 0.97

00:27:16.000 You're brutal killers. 0.61

00:27:17.000 Not nice people at all, but you have to vote for me. 0.99

00:27:19.000 You have no choice.

00:27:20.000 You're not going to vote for Pocahontas, I can tell you that. 1.00

00:27:22.000 how people in the room are hard-nosed business people.

00:27:24.000 And here is what he says. - A lot of you are in the real estate business 'cause I know you very well.

00:27:29.000 You're brutal killers, not nice people at all, but you have to vote for them, you have no choice.

00:27:34.000 You're not gonna vote for Pocahontas, I can tell you that. 1.00

00:27:37.000 You're not gonna vote for the wealth tax.

00:27:40.000 Yeah, let's take 100% of your wealth away.

00:27:42.000 No, no.

00:27:43.000 Even if you don't like me, some of you don't.

00:27:45.000 Some of you I don't like at all, actually.

00:27:48.000 And you're going to be my biggest supporters because you'll be out of business in about 15 minutes if they get it.

00:27:53.000 Okay, so people in the media played this as though he was being anti-semitic in this clip.

00:27:58.000 I'm not kidding you.

00:27:59.000 There were people in the media who suggested that this was an anti-semitic line because he was saying to Jews that some of them are not nice people.

00:28:07.000 He's explicitly talking about people he did real estate with.

00:28:10.000 The entire clip is about how I do deals with you guys.

00:28:12.000 You guys hate me. 1.00

00:28:13.000 I hate you. 1.00

00:28:14.000 You're gonna vote for me anyway because at least I'm not a crazed socialist. 0.99

00:28:17.000 The media played this as though Donald Trump was being an anti-Semite in that clip. 0.81

00:28:21.000 That's incredibly dishonest.

00:28:24.000 Incredibly dishonest.

00:28:25.000 Okay, and then Trump talks about Israel.

00:28:28.000 And he is at the Israeli-American Council.

00:28:30.000 Okay, so these are people who care deeply about Israel.

00:28:33.000 And he makes a point.

00:28:34.000 Okay, as usual, not always in the best way, but what he says here is not actually wrong.

00:28:40.000 Here's President, and again, they try to claim that this is anti-Semitic.

00:28:42.000 Here's President Trump saying that he is very pro-Israel and Jews should be more pro-Israel. 0.68

00:28:47.000 Now, as I've said before, if what he means by that is that people with the last name Berg and Steen ought to be more pro-Israel, then that's silly because there are a lot of people who are born Jewish who don't give a damn about Israel.

00:28:56.000 But if he means people who actually care about Judaism, people who consider themselves Jews for purposes of public discussion, Then he is correct. 0.99

00:29:04.000 There are many Jews who do not care enough about Israel.

00:29:06.000 Many, many Jews who do not care enough about Israel, who care more about abortion until ninth month and same-sex marriage than they do about Israel. 0.99

00:29:13.000 Which, if you have any semblance of understanding of Judaism, is kind of ridiculous. 0.98

00:29:17.000 Trump is not wrong in what he says here. 0.88

00:29:19.000 The media portrayed this as anti-Semitic.

00:29:21.000 We have to get the people of our country, of this country, to love Israel more.

00:29:26.000 I have to tell you that.

00:29:27.000 We have to do it.

00:29:28.000 We have to get them to love Israel more.

00:29:31.000 Because you have people that are Jewish people, that are great people, they don't love Israel enough. 1.00

00:29:37.000 You know that.

00:29:38.000 You know that.

00:29:40.000 Okay, nothing he says there is wrong.

00:29:41.000 The media played this as though this is anti-Semitic.

00:29:43.000 He's literally saying that people should be more pro the Jewish state.

00:29:46.000 And also there are lots of Jews who don't care enough about the Jewish state. 0.52

00:29:50.000 100% true!

00:29:50.000 Okay, but we're gonna pretend that that is him being virulently anti-semitic from the same party that voted in the last week.

00:29:58.000 That Jews settling in historic Jewish areas is a violation of international law, and four members of the House Democratic Party decided they would not vote even for that condemnation of Trump because it would suggest a two-state solution.

00:30:11.000 Rashida Tlaib, who's a blatant anti-Semite from Michigan, she suggested that when it comes to Israel, there should not be a Jewish state.

00:30:17.000 She said there should not be a two-state solution, okay?

00:30:18.000 Understand, a two-state solution, according to Rashida Tlaib, would be a Palestinian state and a Jewish state.

00:30:24.000 She doesn't want that. 0.84

00:30:25.000 She wants it to go away.

00:30:26.000 She says that would be an apartheid state.

00:30:28.000 So she wants the destruction of the Jewish state? 0.79

00:30:31.000 No commentary from the media.

00:30:32.000 None.

00:30:33.000 Nobody even asks a question about it.

00:30:34.000 But Trump is very divisive on Israel. 0.57

00:30:37.000 The Democrat, the media, their attempts to play up the radicalism of the Republicans is quite insane and completely complete. 0.64

00:30:46.000 And downplay, by the way, the radicalism of the Democratic Party is completely, completely dishonest.

00:30:50.000 Incredibly dishonest.

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00:33:02.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:33:10.000 The media are not content with lying about Trump.

00:33:12.000 They're also lying about Nikki Haley.

00:33:13.000 So Nikki Haley did an interview with the former ambassador to the UN, former South Carolina governor. 0.96

00:33:18.000 Remember, when she was governor of South Carolina, while she was governor, there was a mass shooting at a Charleston church by a brutal terrorist racist, white supremacist racist. 0.73

00:33:28.000 And then there was a picture of that guy holding a Confederate flag. 0.51

00:33:31.000 And Nikki Haley, as the governor of the state, had the Confederate flag, battle flag, removed from state grounds and put in a museum.

00:33:39.000 And she made a speech about it at the time talking about the the conflicted history of the confederate flag how many people saw it as a symbol of bravery and and home and hearth and how many people saw it as a symbol of racism which of course it originally was right and how that morphed over time for many people and so it didn't have its original relation to slavery but she saw how it was divisive and she saw how how it hurt people and and all of this okay so she was on Glenn Beck and she was asked about the confederate flag controversy and here is what she said

00:34:05.000 And the ability of the media to take perfectly innocuous statements out of context and use it to call people like Nikki Haley racist.

00:34:12.000 Remember, she's the person who took it off state grounds in South Carolina in 2015 and made a speech about the history of the Confederate flag.

00:34:20.000 She made a statement about it, about how she totally understood why when black Americans looked at that flag, they saw, effectively speaking, a swastika.

00:34:27.000 She got that.

00:34:29.000 But she also understood that the vast majority of people who had a Confederate flag bumper sticker on the back of their car were not Nazis and were not white supremacists.

00:34:36.000 All of which is true.

00:34:37.000 All of those things can be true at the same time.

00:34:39.000 They suggested, over the weekend, that Nikki Haley was actually a racist who was making excuses for the original Confederate flag and pretending that it didn't have any link to historic racism.

00:34:49.000 They did it based on taking her out of context on Glenn Beck's show.

00:34:54.000 Here is this guy that comes out with his manifesto holding the Confederate flag and had just hijacked everything that people thought of.

00:35:05.000 We don't have hateful people in South Carolina.

00:35:07.000 There's always the small minority that's always going to be there.

00:35:09.000 But people saw it as service and sacrifice and heritage.

00:35:15.000 But once he did that, There was no way to overcome it, and the national media came in in droves.

00:35:23.000 They wanted to define what happened.

00:35:25.000 They wanted to make this about racism.

00:35:26.000 They wanted to make it about gun control.

00:35:28.000 They wanted to make it about death penalty.

00:35:31.000 Okay, so she says that, and they say, oh, well, that means that she thinks that the Confederate flag doesn't have any history of relation to racism.

00:35:38.000 That's what she thinks.

00:35:38.000 Okay, she, no, no.

00:35:40.000 In 2015, she specifically made statements about exactly what these, what exactly the Confederate flag was, right?

00:35:48.000 She gave a statement, June, 2015, right?

00:35:52.000 A televised statement, and she talked about the people of South Carolina, and she talked about the, she talked about the Confederate flag, And she said in that speech on matters of race, South Carolina has a tough history.

00:36:02.000 We all know that many of us have seen it in our own lives and lives of our parents and grandparents.

00:36:06.000 We don't need reminders.

00:36:07.000 In spite of last week's tragedy, we've come a long way since those days and have much to be proud of.

00:36:11.000 But there's more we can do.

00:36:12.000 That brings me to the subject of the Confederate flag that flies on the statehouse grounds.

00:36:15.000 For many people in our state, the flag stands for traditions that are noble, traditions of history, of heritage and of ancestry.

00:36:20.000 The hate-filled murderer who massacred our brothers and sisters in Charleston has a sick and twisted view of the flag.

00:36:25.000 In no way does he reflect the people in our state who respect and in many ways revere it.

00:36:28.000 Those South Carolinians view the flag as a symbol of respect, integrity, and duty.

00:36:32.000 They also see it as memorial, a way to honor ancestors.

00:36:34.000 That is not hate, nor is it racism.

00:36:36.000 At the same time, It is what she said in 2015, when she removed the flag from state grounds.

00:36:41.000 At the same time, for many others in South Carolina, the flag is a deeply offensive symbol of a brutally oppressive past.

00:36:46.000 As a state, we can survive, as we have done, while still being home to both of those viewpoints.

00:36:50.000 We do not need to declare a winner and a loser here.

00:36:52.000 We respect freedom of expression and that for those who wish to show their respect for the flag on their private property, no one will stand in your way.

00:36:58.000 But the statehouse is different.

00:36:59.000 And events of the past week call upon us to look at this in a different way.

00:37:02.000 Fifteen years ago, after much contentious debate, South Carolina came together in a bipartisan way to move the flag from atop the Capitol dome.

00:37:09.000 Today, we are here in a moment of unity in our state without ill will to say it's time to move the flag from Capitol grounds.

00:37:15.000 And now they're trying to paint Nikki Haley as a brutal racist. 0.99

00:37:19.000 Now they're trying to paint Nikki Haley who moved the flag. 0.90

00:37:22.000 as a brutal racist.

00:37:24.000 Hey, this is part of a broader agenda to suggest that the Republican Party utterly and completely is radical and is trying to tear apart the country and is dangerous to the country.

00:37:32.000 And also, if they win elections, the elections are illegitimate.

00:37:35.000 They're trying to steal elections.

00:37:35.000 This is why you hear Democrats talk about voter suppression.

00:37:38.000 There is no evidence of widespread voter suppression in the United States.

00:37:41.000 None.

00:37:42.000 Okay, the evidence that Republicans are attempting to quote-unquote suppress the vote and keep people from being able to vote based on voter ID laws is absurd.

00:37:50.000 The idea that you want to make sure that somebody is voting, who says they're voting, by having them show an ID, that is not voter suppression.

00:37:57.000 Poll taxes are voter suppression.

00:37:59.000 Poll tests, those are voter suppression.

00:38:02.000 Constitutionally speaking, it is not voter suppression to suggest that polling places have to be open for widespread hours, not at specific hours of the day.

00:38:11.000 It is not voter suppression.

00:38:13.000 When in Georgia, the case where Democrats keep saying there was voter suppression, black turnout has outpaced black share of the population in Georgia for years, including in the Stacey Abrams race.

00:38:23.000 Hey, that's not voter suppression, but Democrats keep claiming this stuff so they can claim that every election is illegitimate. 0.93

00:38:28.000 And then you get people like Charles Blow, again, awful columnist for the New York Times, with a piece called, Oh, Nikki, You're So Wrong.

00:38:35.000 There is much Nikki Haley could learn from a true heroine of the South Carolina Confederate flag removal, Bree Newsom Bass.

00:38:40.000 And then he has a long column about how Nikki Haley About how Nikki Haley doesn't understand the history of the Confederate flag.

00:38:49.000 She gave an astonishing statement for the very brazenness of its erasure of history and its bowing to a racist narrative.

00:38:54.000 Any image of morality and unity Haley had cultivated vanished when those words left her lips.

00:38:59.000 She did not say, my view of the Confederate flag is that the Confederate flag only represents heroism and decency.

00:39:04.000 That's not what she said.

00:39:05.000 She said, the vast majority of South Carolinians who fly the flag, it doesn't represent being a fan of Jim Crow or racism, which is true.

00:39:14.000 How do we know that's true?

00:39:15.000 Because five minutes ago, Democrats were saying the same thing.

00:39:20.000 Joe Biden praised a group that displayed the Confederate flag as fine people, like three years ago, four years ago.

00:39:28.000 Howard Dean famously invoked the Confederate flag in his 2004 race.

00:39:33.000 Here is Joe Biden, this is just a few years ago, talking about the fine people who displayed the Confederate flag.

00:39:38.000 A very moving and eloquent speech as a son of the Confederacy.

00:39:46.000 Acknowledging that it was time to change and yield to a position that Senator Carol Moseley Braun raised on the floor of the Senate, not granting a federal charter to a organization made up of many fine people who continue to display the Confederate flag

00:40:14.000 Okay, so again, many fine people who displayed the Confederate flag.

00:40:17.000 Howard Dean did the same thing back in 2004, and he said that he wanted to be the candidate for Democrats who flew a Confederate flag on their bumper sticker.

00:40:27.000 This was acceptable until five seconds ago.

00:40:29.000 Nikki Haley says it, it's no longer acceptable because everyone apparently who has a Confederate flag on their bumper sticker is a racist, which is a hell of a way to win elections in the South if you're a Democrat, really.

00:40:37.000 To call everyone who has a Confederate flag a vicious racist?

00:40:42.000 Like the Dukes of Hazzard are now vicious racists?

00:40:45.000 Okay, good luck with this. 0.93

00:40:46.000 Here's Howard Dean back when the Democrats were slightly less insane.

00:40:50.000 I don't want to win without the South.

00:40:52.000 I'm going to go to the South and I'm going to say to white guys who drive pickup trucks with Confederate flag decals in the back of their car, we want your vote too because your kids don't have health insurance either! 0.68

00:41:08.000 Okay, when Democrats said it, it was fine.

00:41:10.000 When Republicans say it, apparently it is truly, truly awful.

00:41:13.000 Meanwhile, if you're a Democrat, you can say pretty much anything and the media will let you get away with it.

00:41:16.000 So, AOC, the illustrious AOC, the brilliant AOC, she tweeted out that Amazon is coming to New York.

00:41:24.000 Amazon is coming to New York.

00:41:25.000 They agreed to open in Hudson Yards.

00:41:26.000 They didn't get any financial incentives from New York City or state.

00:41:29.000 She tweeted out a picture of herself, like sitting in the lounge of her upscale Washington, D.C.

00:41:35.000 Apartment building.

00:41:36.000 Again, she doesn't even understand Trump's food stamp policy.

00:41:39.000 The food stamp policy that has work requirements does not apply to families with children.

00:41:41.000 80 deals, helipad handouts for Jeff Bezos and corporate giveaways.

00:41:44.000 Maybe the Trump administration should focus more on cutting public assistance to billionaires instead of poor families.

00:41:49.000 Again, she doesn't even understand Trump's food stamp policy.

00:41:52.000 The food stamp policy that has work requirements does not apply to families with children.

00:41:56.000 It only applies to single people who are not working because she doesn't like a Again, she's mischaracterizing this stuff.

00:42:04.000 Again, she's mischaracterizing this stuff.

00:42:05.000 But also, it's worth noting that the 25,000 Amazon jobs that were supposed to come to New York, they were supposed to come to her district.

00:42:14.000 Now, 1,500 jobs are coming to New York outside her district. 1.00

00:42:20.000 She's an idiot. 1.00

00:42:21.000 Okay? 1.00

00:42:21.000 And she's always been an idiot. 1.00

00:42:22.000 She doesn't know what the hell she's talking about, but the media are gonna continue to treat her as though she's worth talking about. 1.00

00:42:26.000 Okay, so what is all of this designed to do?

00:42:28.000 All of this is designed to create a feeling of chaos.

00:42:31.000 And the feeling of chaos can only be alleviated.

00:42:33.000 Only be alleviated if you give Democrats what they want.

00:42:36.000 It can only be alleviated if you give Democrats what they want.

00:42:39.000 Now, the most extreme version of this sort of politics was practiced, you know, decades ago by Marion Barry in Washington, D.C.

00:42:45.000 This is not a racial thing.

00:42:46.000 Marion Barry absolutely said that he would create unrest in the streets unless his constituents were given what they wanted.

00:42:54.000 And there's a very good book on this, and the name of it escapes me, but I've mentioned it in the past on the show.

00:43:00.000 Talking about how America's major cities were riven by chaos, specifically designed to create government policy from the inside.

00:43:08.000 There's sort of this inside-outside game.

00:43:09.000 You see it on college campuses a lot, where there will be chaos when a speaker comes to campus, and then the administration, instead of cracking down on the people who are committing the chaos, the administration just caves to the chaos and says, okay, I guess we'll alleviate your woes.

00:43:21.000 We'll give you what you want.

00:43:23.000 Hey, Democrats in the media are now doing the same thing.

00:43:25.000 It's chaos out there.

00:43:26.000 Now, a lot of that is being pushed by the Democrats in the media, that it's chaos and craziness out there.

00:43:26.000 It's craziness.

00:43:31.000 Because again, walk outside today.

00:43:32.000 Are you seeing a zombie apocalypse?

00:43:34.000 I'm not.

00:43:35.000 When you're not watching the news, when you turn off Twitter, Do you really feel as though the country is in a state of vast chaos?

00:43:42.000 Complete breakdown?

00:43:44.000 When you turn off, and by the way, it's not just left-wingers.

00:43:46.000 When you turn off Fox, when you turn off my show, when you turn off any of the other, when you don't follow politics for five seconds, does it feel like chaos or does it feel like things are kind of okay?

00:43:53.000 It feels like things are kind of okay.

00:43:55.000 But for a lot of the members of the democratic media, the goal is to create this feeling of chaos so that you're gonna go, okay, fine, just put old Joe in there.

00:44:02.000 Honestly, like old Joe, just do old Joe.

00:44:04.000 Because old Joe, I mean, like, guy's not even alive.

00:44:07.000 Just put him in there.

00:44:08.000 Speaking of Joe Biden, right?

00:44:10.000 Corpse Joe Biden walking the earth.

00:44:12.000 He is proof that there is eternal life and it's not just government programs.

00:44:15.000 It's also if you're a senator from Delaware who never stops running for president.

00:44:18.000 So Joe Biden, Joe Biden over the weekend, he made the little admission that he should put restrictions on Hunter.

00:44:25.000 This is kind of hilarious.

00:44:26.000 He's been saying the whole time that Hunter never did.

00:44:29.000 He never did anything wrong with regard to Hunter.

00:44:30.000 But now he's like, I suppose we should put some restrictions on Hunter, like not allowing him to trot around the globe, picking up bags of cash because his last name is the same as mine.

00:44:38.000 Here's Joe Biden now reversing course.

00:44:41.000 Say you're elected, you're in office.

00:44:44.000 What guardrails would you have to be sure that your son, your brother Jimmy, doesn't do anything to trade on the family name?

00:44:52.000 They will not be engaged in any foreign business because of what's happened in this administration.

00:44:57.000 No one's going to be seeking patents for things from China.

00:45:00.000 No one's going to be engaged in that kind of thing.

00:45:03.000 So no foreign business for your relatives?

00:45:06.000 Correct.

00:45:07.000 Because it happened in this administration, not because of the questions about him and his son.

00:45:10.000 No, it's just because of Trump.

00:45:12.000 It's because of Trump.

00:45:13.000 It's all because of Trump.

00:45:14.000 By the way, that was not the only gaffe that Joe Biden made about his son over the weekend.

00:45:17.000 He was interviewed by NPR.

00:45:19.000 And he said, no, nobody even nobody even raised the issue to me.

00:45:22.000 OK, we know in open testimony, George Kent said that he went to Vice President Biden's team and they said we didn't have time for this.

00:45:28.000 So it turns out that wasn't true.

00:45:29.000 Here's Joe Biden saying an untrue thing.

00:45:33.000 But there were former White House aides of yours who tried to warn you about the potential conflicts of interest.

00:45:37.000 Nobody warned me about a potential conflict of interest.

00:45:41.000 Nobody warned me about that.

00:45:42.000 And at the same time, this was done.

00:45:43.000 George Kent, the State Department official, testified that he raised it to you.

00:45:47.000 No, he didn't say me.

00:45:48.000 To your staff.

00:45:49.000 He did not say me.

00:45:49.000 To your staff.

00:45:50.000 I stand corrected.

00:45:51.000 I never, never heard that once.

00:45:53.000 At all.

00:45:53.000 To your staff.

00:45:54.000 And your staff told him he has no bandwidth.

00:45:57.000 Well, my son was dying.

00:45:58.000 I guess that's why he said it.

00:46:00.000 Because my son was on his deathbed.

00:46:02.000 But that's not the reason why they should have told him.

00:46:06.000 Okay, so now he's saying they should have told him.

00:46:07.000 But the reason they said they didn't tell him is because they were afraid he was going to blow up at them if they did tell him.

00:46:13.000 So Joe Biden is certainly not any representative of institutional stability or personal stability, as it turns out.

00:46:19.000 And by the way, he's a radical, too.

00:46:21.000 He's revised himself on his own positions that used to be moderate.

00:46:23.000 He came out over the weekend and again suggested we have to dump the Hyde Amendment, which means federal funding for direct abortion.

00:46:30.000 I came out a while ago saying we have to get rid of the Hyde Amendment because it's no longer doable and usable and no longer a serious option for anybody.

00:46:39.000 All the, you have all these states going out and not only challenging whether or not there is a, they're saying that it's a criminal offense, that you're going back to the agreement.

00:46:50.000 Here, let me, let me, the best way to say it.

00:46:53.000 If I get elected President of the United States and the Supreme Court overrules Roe v. Wade, I'm going to send legislation to the United States Congress to pass it and codify it.

00:47:03.000 Okay, so the media's play here is put that doddering old nut in the White House. 1.00

00:47:07.000 Because if you put that doddering old nut in the White House, then everyone will feel more stable.

00:47:11.000 Do you feel more stable, looking at that guy?

00:47:13.000 Do things feel more stable?

00:47:14.000 The only way they feel more stable is if Trump keeps saying crazy things.

00:47:16.000 It's why Trump should stop saying crazy things, but does that seem like a beacon of stability to you?

00:47:21.000 Maybe Elizabeth Warren seems like a beacon of stability to you.

00:47:24.000 Again, the play of the media here is make things feel like the house is on fire and that the arsonists will come in and put out the fire if, and only if, you pay the ransom.

00:47:35.000 But does Elizabeth Warren feel like a beacon of stability?

00:47:37.000 By the way, it was really funny.

00:47:38.000 Over the weekend, Elizabeth Warren finally admitted she shouldn't have called herself Native American publicly.

00:47:42.000 So this only took forever.

00:47:43.000 I do appreciate her blue sweater today.

00:47:45.000 She has this rotating, we've been noticing this, she has a rotating series of sweaters every single day, this very weird kind of 1970s teaching.

00:47:54.000 I am not a person of color.

00:47:55.000 I am not a citizen of a tribe.

00:47:55.000 Harvard Law School, to be fair.

00:47:56.000 So she's this is nothing new.

00:47:58.000 Here is Elizabeth Warren in a blue sweater, which she's changing it up today, talking about how she shouldn't have called herself Native American, which is weird.

00:48:04.000 She did so for decades to the cheers of the to the cheers of the academic left.

00:48:08.000 I shouldn't have done it.

00:48:10.000 I am not a person of color.

00:48:12.000 I am not a citizen of a tribe.

00:48:15.000 And I have apologized for confusion I've caused on tribal citizenship, tribal sovereignty and for or any harm that I've caused.

00:48:27.000 Weird how every Republican complaint about Joe Biden and Hunter Biden has now been half-legitimated by Joe Biden saying he's going to redo the restrictions when he becomes president.

00:48:36.000 And every complaint about Elizabeth Warren being foca-hontas. 1.00

00:48:39.000 Those have been legitimized by now, her backing off.

00:48:41.000 But for years, we were told that you're not allowed to ask about Hunter Biden.

00:48:44.000 We're still being told that.

00:48:45.000 And we were told that it's racist to note that Elizabeth Warren is actually not Native American.

00:48:50.000 Because stability, guys.

00:48:51.000 That's what we need.

00:48:52.000 Stability.

00:48:52.000 And I trust our media to establish that baseline level of stability.

00:48:56.000 By the way, these are the same Democrats who are claiming, again, that Donald Trump is responsible for every evil thing.

00:49:01.000 Hillary Clinton suggesting that Trump is inciting mass shootings at synagogues and churches and Walmart.

00:49:06.000 Here is Hillary Clinton, who's definitely, definitely not campaigning for president. 1.00

00:49:09.000 Saying that chaos has broken out because of Trump.

00:49:12.000 By the way, there were shootings at synagogues before Trump was president.

00:49:15.000 There was shooting at the Charleston church shooting was in 2015.

00:49:19.000 Barack Obama was president at that time.

00:49:22.000 But here's Hillary Clinton suggesting that it's only all chaos is due to Trump.

00:49:25.000 Clearly he just incites these deep irrational and unfortunately sometimes violent emotions.

00:49:35.000 Some of the people who have gone into synagogues and churches and Walmarts and other places and shot them up and murdered people have clearly been unleashed.

00:49:47.000 I don't want to say it's a direct cause.

00:49:49.000 I don't think that's fair.

00:49:50.000 People are amped up.

00:49:52.000 People are amped up.

00:49:54.000 Okay, people, yes.

00:49:55.000 As opposed to, if you just elect an old, stodgy Joe Biden, everything will be better.

00:50:00.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.

00:50:03.000 So, things that I like.

00:50:04.000 The Democratic Party has claimed for years that the Great Society helped the country in innumerable ways.

00:50:11.000 Now, the Great Society, really, it was the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, right?

00:50:15.000 Those were good pieces of legislation, with the exception that I've always said that the Civil Rights Act should not have been applied to private businesses, that the direct impact of the Civil Rights Act should have come down on state governments that were imposing Jim Crow from above.

00:50:27.000 Now, if you have to vote for the entire thing, or not the entire thing, you vote for the entire thing, because more important to stop Jim Crow than even to protect private property rights at the time. 0.53

00:50:34.000 But, with that said, The rest of the Great Society programs were a dud.

00:50:38.000 Not only were they a dud, they were a deeply damaging dud that achieved precisely the opposite of what they intended to achieve in quashing poverty.

00:50:45.000 The rates of poverty basically continued to decline at the same rates they were declining before the Great Society programs, except now we were spending 20 trillion dollars on it.

00:50:53.000 Amity Shlaes has a great new book about this.

00:50:55.000 She's a terrific author.

00:50:56.000 She's the author of the book, The Forgotten Man, all about the failures of the New Deal.

00:50:59.000 She has a great book about, it's called Great Society, A New History.

00:51:02.000 She really, you know, points out sort of the leadership in this movement.

00:51:06.000 Walter Reuther comes in for some serious criticism, the former head of the United Auto Workers.

00:51:10.000 The book is really well written.

00:51:12.000 It is worthy of the read.

00:51:13.000 Great Society, A New History.

00:51:14.000 Go check it out by Amity Shlaes.

00:51:16.000 For everybody who suggests that the Democrats healed America with the Great Society programs.

00:51:20.000 Nah.

00:51:20.000 No, they really did not.

00:51:21.000 They led to decades of economic stagnation through the Great Society programs, and we are still bearing the legacy of those in the massive national debt that we carry.

00:51:30.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.

00:51:37.000 So there's a performance artist and he taped a banana to a wall.

00:51:42.000 It sold for $120,000 at Miami's Art Basel Festival this week.

00:51:47.000 If you want to say that we are in the final stages of a civilization, this would probably be a good indicator.

00:51:51.000 It's a contemporary art piece titled The Comedian.

00:51:54.000 And again, it sold for a staggering $120,000.

00:51:58.000 It is now in a different artist's stomach, according to reports.

00:52:00.000 The comedian was an installation meant, ostensibly, to make fun of the art world's obsession with banal and uninspired works, according to its creator, Maurizio Catalan.

00:52:08.000 But most viewers saw it as simply a rotting banana duct-taped to a wall.

00:52:11.000 Daily Wire's Amanda Prestigiacomo reported earlier this week that the piece presented at Art Basel, the American version of the avant-garde Swiss art showcase, is one of three similar pieces showcased around the world, and the artist, Catalan, prides himself on mocking the rest of contemporary art with his work.

00:52:24.000 Ah, irony.

00:52:25.000 The Banana is a follow-up to his 2017 installation, A Golden Toilet, that sold for $6 million, but is currently missing after a shocking art heist that took place in the UK earlier this year.

00:52:35.000 Apparently, The Golden Toilet is now installed at the Pentagon.

00:52:38.000 On Saturday, Another contemporary artist decided to make his own show of the duct tape banana.

00:52:42.000 He peeled the fruit off the wall and consumed it in front of a crowd of horrified omelookers. 0.95

00:52:50.000 Here's what this looks like.

00:52:51.000 He just goes right for it.

00:52:52.000 He peels it off the wall and eats the banana.

00:52:57.000 He calls it Hungry Artist.

00:53:02.000 It took some work for this guy to find the banana.

00:53:04.000 It was removed from public display after Art Basel concluded earlier this week and relocated to a gallery.

00:53:10.000 De Tuna was also given incredible leeway for the stunt.

00:53:12.000 He actually conversed with several patrons who were treating his efforts with utter seriousness because this was, in fact, a work of art.

00:53:19.000 Catalan worked on his art for a year according to the press release from the gallery where Catalan's banana was being exhibited for sale.

00:53:24.000 The gallery claims it has sentimental value to the artist.

00:53:28.000 Apparently, the good news is that it's easy to replace the banana.

00:53:31.000 Shocking.

00:53:31.000 You can get it for under a dollar anywhere in the United States.

00:53:35.000 So, don't worry.

00:53:36.000 It's art, though.

00:53:37.000 It's definitely, definitely art.

00:53:38.000 It's not the decline of art.

00:53:39.000 It's not the decline of Western civilization.

00:53:41.000 It's not the fact that we have too much money apparently being held by... Like, you want to turn me into a Bernie Sanders socialist?

00:53:46.000 Tell me someone paid $120,000 for a banana duct-taped to a wall.

00:53:51.000 That would be the answer right there.

00:53:52.000 Solid stuff there.

00:53:54.000 Yeah, the death of art definitely has taken place in real time, which is why you go to a modern art museum and you're like, oh my kid could paint that.

00:54:01.000 Right.

00:54:01.000 Your kid could paint that.

00:54:02.000 This is correct.

00:54:03.000 Because art has been completely separated from skill.

00:54:05.000 It's the message of the art that matters.

00:54:07.000 The message.

00:54:08.000 And once the art becomes about the message and not about the actual art, The art is supposed to be universal in the sense that it's supposed to have meaning for everyone who takes a look at this.

00:54:17.000 You know what this means?

00:54:18.000 This duct tape banana to a wall? 1.00

00:54:20.000 It means that everyone's a moron. 1.00

00:54:21.000 So I guess it achieves that effect. 0.99

00:54:23.000 It achieves that purpose.

00:54:25.000 The art critic, by the way, over at the New York Times defended this thing and said, no, no, no, it is indeed art.

00:54:32.000 A grudging defense of the $120,000 banana.

00:54:36.000 Jason Farago says art may be long and life short, but the existence of a hand fruit is most ephemeral of all.

00:54:42.000 This week at Art Basel Miami Beach, the art world's premier champagne-steeped swap meet.

00:54:46.000 No work drew more grins, guffaws, and selfies than a new sculpture!

00:54:49.000 I call it a sculpture.

00:54:51.000 by the semi-retired Italian trickster Maurizio Cattelan, a banana duct taped to a wall, its peel already speckled with brown spots.

00:54:58.000 It's titled Comedian.

00:54:59.000 By Wednesday, it had already won art world notoriety.

00:55:02.000 On Saturday, it achieved a public visibility that any artist would envy, after a self-promoting wag tore the banana off the wall and gobbled it up.

00:55:10.000 Suffice it to say that works of contemporary art rarely make the cover of the New York Post, but this is Mr. Cattelan's second recent appearance on the tabloid's front page.

00:55:19.000 When it comes to the banana's ontological status as art or produce, I thought we had settled this already.

00:55:22.000 If you buy a lightwork by Dan Flavin and the fluorescent bulb starts flickering, you can replace it with a new one.

00:55:27.000 If you buy a Sol LeWitt wall drawing and you move a house, you can erase the old one and draw a new one.

00:55:31.000 A banana, even more than a light fixture, was always going to require replacement.

00:55:35.000 Catalan had already drawn up instructions for the lucky collectors to replace the fruit every day to ten days.

00:55:42.000 As to why Catalan's banana has gripped the public imagination, it has something to do with the price.

00:55:46.000 Something to do also with the comic potential of bananas.

00:55:50.000 Is it art?

00:55:51.000 Did you have to be there? 0.99

00:55:52.000 Let me reassure you, you are not a hopeless Philistine if you find this all a bit foolish. 0.96

00:55:55.000 Foolishness and a deflating sense that a culture that once encouraged sublime beauty now only permits dopey jokes is Mr. Catalan's stock in trade. 0.73

00:56:03.000 But perhaps you will find more to appreciate in Catalan's work if you take notes of two points. 0.90

00:56:07.000 One formal, one social, says the New York Times art critic.

00:56:10.000 First, I've been dismayed to discover that for a work that has been endlessly photographed and parodied over the course of its one week life, almost no one has discussed that it is not just a banana.

00:56:18.000 It is a banana and a piece of duct tape.

00:56:21.000 And this is a significant difference.

00:56:24.000 Comedian is not a one-note Dadaist imposture in which a commodity is proclaimed a work of art, which would be an entire century out of date now, as dated as a film director mimicking D.W.

00:56:32.000 Griffith.

00:56:33.000 Comedian is a sculpture, one that continues Mr. Catalan's decades-long reliance on suspension to make the obvious seem ridiculous, and to deflate and defeat the pretensions of earlier. 0.81

00:56:42.000 Okay, fire this guy. 0.96

00:56:43.000 Fire this guy. 0.93

00:56:44.000 Seriously, fire the critic, fire the artist, fire everyone. 0.90

00:56:48.000 The culture that produced the Sistine Chapel has now produced a man duct taping a banana to a wall. 0.97

00:56:53.000 The culture that produced Bach, Beethoven, and Brahms has now produced a piece of fruit that is rotting on a wall taped there with duct tape.

00:57:00.000 And we are supposed to believe that this is a deep and profound commentary On American culture.

00:57:05.000 The only commentary on American culture is that anybody took this thing seriously in the first place. 0.96

00:57:09.000 It's ridiculous on its face.

00:57:11.000 And the fact that nobody aspires anymore. 0.95

00:57:13.000 Instead we just find joy in mockery.

00:57:15.000 And nobody aspires anymore.

00:57:16.000 Maybe that's the only thing it has to say about our culture.

00:57:18.000 Maybe that was Catalan's point.

00:57:19.000 It ain't worth 120 grand.

00:57:20.000 I just gave it to you for free.

00:57:21.000 So enjoy.

00:57:22.000 Alrighty.

00:57:23.000 We'll be back here later today with two additional hours of content.

00:57:25.000 We have a lot to get to a little bit later today.

00:57:27.000 So definitely tune in.

00:57:28.000 Or show up here tomorrow.

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00:58:01.000 Politics is downstream of culture, but politics affects culture, too.

00:58:05.000 As a banana duct taped to a wall sells for $120,000 at Art Basel, as Drag Queen Story Hour hits preschools, and as kids get hooked on hardcore porn before the age of 10, libertarians beware we examine whether politics can help us fix our screwed up culture.

The Ben Shapiro Show - December 09, 2019

The End Of Legitimate Elections | Ep. 912

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