The Ben Shapiro Show - The FBI Screw-Ups: Incompetence Or Malice? | Ep. 430

00:00:00.000 A fired anti-Trump FBI agent had his hands in every single pie. 0.98

00:00:04.000 Nancy Pelosi loses what is left of her addled brain.

00:00:07.000 Plus, Roy Moore is back in Republican good graces.

00:00:11.000 We'll talk about all of it.

00:00:11.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:12.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:18.000 Well, the news is breaking fast and furious.

00:00:20.000 I was just joking to all of my producers before the show that we might have to have a second show today because the news is actually coming too fast to keep up with it.

00:00:27.000 In the last 24 hours, we've gotten all sorts of fallout on the Mueller investigation.

00:00:31.000 We'll discuss all of that.

00:00:33.000 Nancy Pelosi says that Armageddon has arrived in the form of a basically normal Republican tax bill.

00:00:38.000 Roy Moore is, again, back in Republican good graces.

00:00:41.000 And President Trump is making some pretty astonishing moves with regard to Jerusalem.

00:00:44.000 So we'll get to all of those things, I promise.

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00:01:56.000 Okay, so, yesterday there was a lot of fallout from all of the furor surrounding Mike Flynn, the former National Security Advisor, who pled guilty to lying to the FBI.

00:02:08.000 And we talked about yesterday whether this entire thing, this entire Mueller investigation, is going to turn out to show nothing with regard to collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians, but could ensnare a bunch of Trump officials

00:02:18.000 Who are too naive to know that they weren't actually committing a crime and so lied to the FBI.

00:02:22.000 So you could have a series of situations in which people like Mike Flynn or Jared Kushner are caught up in lying to the FBI.

00:02:28.000 No indication Kushner's done that yet, but Flynn already has pled guilty.

00:02:31.000 And then you could have a bunch of talk about did President Trump encourage them to lie to the FBI?

00:02:36.000 Is that obstruction of justice?

00:02:37.000 And if so, does that mean that Trump has to be impeached?

00:02:39.000 So we could get a scandal about a scandal about a non-scandal.

00:02:42.000 No underlying bad act. 0.99

00:02:44.000 People lie to the FBI because they're dumb or because they're incompetent. 1.00

00:02:47.000 And then it turns out that they were told to lie to the FBI by people who are also dumb slash incompetent or just didn't know what they were doing. 0.99

00:02:53.000 All of that is a possibility and a very significant possibility. 0.98

00:02:56.000 And then we find out in actual bombshell.

00:03:00.000 We're good to go.

00:03:16.000 I don't know.

00:03:32.000 Let me explain to you who this FBI agent is.

00:03:34.000 This FBI agent was in charge of the Hillary investigation.

00:03:38.000 This FBI agent specifically changed the language in former FBI Director James Comey's statement about Hillary Clinton.

00:03:44.000 Originally, they were supposed to say that she had actually involved herself in criminal negligence, essentially, and this guy was responsible, along with Comey, for changing the language to extremely careless.

00:03:55.000 Which is a non-criminal standard, right?

00:03:57.000 You remember, we talked about this at the time that James Comey had changed the actual legal standard.

00:04:01.000 The legal standard does not require intent to mistreat classified information.

00:04:05.000 James Comey changed it to pretend that it required intent, and then he changed the language to avoid the fact that Hillary Clinton probably should have been prosecuted.

00:04:12.000 Well, the guy who actually changed that language was Peter Strzok.

00:04:15.000 Okay, it was that guy.

00:04:17.000 That guy actually changed the language, but not just that.

00:04:20.000 Peter Strzok was also the fellow who interviewed two Hillary Clinton aides.

00:04:24.000 Huma Abedin and Sheryl Mills.

00:04:26.000 It turns out that both Huma Abedin and Sheryl Mills likely, wait for it, lied to the FBI. 0.88

00:04:31.000 Were either of them ever prosecuted?

00:04:33.000 No, of course not.

00:04:34.000 Neither of them were prosecuted.

00:04:35.000 So, Mike Flynn was prosecuted for lying to the FBI, but nothing from Sheryl Mills or Huma Abedin.

00:04:40.000 And the guy who was in charge of those interviews was Peter Strzok, who was sending anti-Trump text messages to his mistress.

00:04:46.000 But wait, there's more.

00:04:47.000 It turns out that Peter Stroke was also the guy who, based on the Russian dossier, helped decide to launch the Russia collusion investigation in the first place on the FBI level.

00:04:56.000 He signed off on the documents.

00:04:57.000 This anti-Trump guy.

00:04:59.000 But wait, there's more.

00:05:01.000 He's also the FBI agent who interviewed Mike Flynn.

00:05:04.000 So he was the guy in the room with Mike Flynn positioning himself so that Mike Flynn could lie to him.

00:05:08.000 Now, does that excuse Mike Flynn for lying?

00:05:10.000 No.

00:05:10.000 But it is sort of suspicious.

00:05:12.000 Like, I'm just wondering, does the FBI have one agent?

00:05:15.000 Like, is he the only agent at the FBI?

00:05:17.000 Now, listen.

00:05:18.000 To be fair,

00:05:19.000 It's possible.

00:05:19.000 He's a top-ranking agent.

00:05:21.000 He has his hands in a lot of pies.

00:05:22.000 If he's near James Comey, James Comey's at the top of the food chain.

00:05:25.000 But it is suspicious when career bureaucrats with actual extreme political biases are having this major an impact on presidential races, on transition teams, on presidential workings.

00:05:36.000 The whole thing is, it does stink a little bit. 0.78

00:05:38.000 It stinks to say the least.

00:05:40.000 This is leading the Wall Street Journal to call for Mueller to step down from his investigation.

00:05:45.000 And here's what the Wall Street Journal says.

00:05:47.000 There is no justification for withholding all of this from Congress.

00:05:49.000 So Congress had subpoenaed all this information from the Mueller team, and the Mueller team had basically stonewalled.

00:05:53.000 The Wall Street Journal says there's no justification for withholding all of this from Congress.

00:05:57.000 Remember, the Steele dossier was brought to the FBI, and then for some reason the FBI thought it was credible enough to actually pay

00:06:27.000 Christopher Steele, the spy behind the Steele dossier, which had all of these allegations about Trump, some of which have already been debunked, the most wild of which have already been debunked.

00:06:34.000 All of this reinforces our doubts, says the journal editorial page, about Mr. Mueller's ability to conduct a fair and credible probe of the FBI's considerable part in the Russia-Trump drama.

00:06:43.000 Mr. Mueller ran the bureau for 12 years and is fast friends with Mr. Comey, whose firing by Mr. Trump triggered his appointment as special counsel.

00:06:49.000 The reluctance to cooperate with a congressional inquiry compounds doubts related to this clear conflict of interest.

00:06:54.000 Now, let's be real here.

00:06:56.000 The Wall Street Journal has been calling for Mueller to step down for at least a couple of months based on his relationship to Comey.

00:07:00.000 I still think it would be a mistake for President Trump to fire Mueller at this point, especially given the fact that he now has an ongoing excuse, like a constant and ongoing excuse to call into doubt any sort of conclusions reached by the Mueller team, right?

00:07:15.000 Now he can say, well, it was all Peter Stroke, or it was James Comey, and these guys were very good friends with Robert Mueller, and they were all working for the same team together.

00:07:22.000 He's gonna be able to say to his base, no matter what, that this is unfair.

00:07:26.000 His base already believes this is unfair.

00:07:27.000 The question is whether if he fires him, it looks like obstruction of justice.

00:07:30.000 Now, as far as whether it is technical obstruction of justice, the answer is no.

00:07:34.000 He's able to fire the special counsel whenever he wants.

00:07:36.000 What he can't do is tell the special counsel how to conduct the investigation.

00:07:39.000 He can't tell him, I want you to find this conclusion.

00:07:42.000 He also can't destroy documents to prevent the special counsel from finding them.

00:07:45.000 So obstruction of justice is possible, but...

00:07:48.000 If he were to fire Mueller, that would not be obstruction of justice.

00:07:51.000 His firing of James Comey, no matter what the reason, was not obstruction of justice because that is within his constitutional purview.

00:07:58.000 This was the point that Alan Dershowitz, one of my professors over at Harvard Law School, was making.

00:08:01.000 He got a lot of flack for it.

00:08:03.000 But here's what Dershowitz was saying on national TV about the president's obstructing justice.

00:08:07.000 Professor, is she right?

00:08:08.000 Do you see a case for obstruction building?

00:08:11.000 No, I don't, and I think if Congress ever were to charge him with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional authority under Article 2, we'd have a constitutional crisis.

00:08:22.000 You cannot charge a president with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional power to fire Comey and his constitutional authority to tell the Justice Department who to investigate, who not to investigate.

00:08:34.000 That's what Thomas Jefferson did, that's what Lincoln did, that's what Roosevelt 0.84

00:08:39.000 Okay, all of this is right what Dershowitz is saying.

00:08:53.000 Now, the left took this out of context to say that this means the president can never obstruct justice.

00:08:58.000 In fact, Trump's own lawyer, John Dowd, who is not a competent lawyer from what I can see, he came out and said the president can never obstruct justice.

00:09:03.000 That's not true.

00:09:04.000 The president can obstruct justice.

00:09:05.000 Obstruction of justice charges were part of the

00:09:08.000 We're good to go.

00:09:26.000 Firing Mike Flynn is not obstruction of justice.

00:09:28.000 Firing James Comey is not obstruction of justice.

00:09:31.000 If you fired Mueller tomorrow, that would not actually be obstruction of justice.

00:09:34.000 And again, all of this is starting to cut in Trump's favor, because the fact is that people now see the FBI as inherently biased.

00:09:41.000 You know, when Trump first started this crusade against the FBI, I was skeptical.

00:09:44.000 You can go back and listen to the shows.

00:09:45.000 I was highly skeptical.

00:09:46.000 I said, this looks a lot like the president covering his own ass because he's in some sort of trouble here, and I have no evidence that the FBI is out to get him, particularly because James Comey may have won him the election in the last week of the election with that letter that basically reopened the Hillary investigation, which, in an election that close, could have swung those 100,000 votes in the three states that Trump needed in order to win.

00:10:06.000 With all of that said, it is now clear that bureaucrats inside the FBI and their political biases do make a difference. 0.72

00:10:12.000 They do make a difference.

00:10:13.000 And that's why full transparency is necessary.

00:10:14.000 Now, in Mueller's defense, I want to be fair here.

00:10:17.000 In Mueller's defense, Mueller did fire Peter Strzok.

00:10:21.000 He did fire him.

00:10:22.000 He did demote him when he found out about this.

00:10:24.000 The problem is he didn't tell Congress about it.

00:10:26.000 So it looks like he was trying to split the baby.

00:10:28.000 He was trying to minimize the impact of bias on his investigation, but he also didn't want the public to know about the level of bias that was implicit in the FBI's conducting of the Hillary investigation, as well as the Trump-Russia investigation.

00:10:40.000 So all of that is somewhat disturbing, but it doesn't say to me that Mueller is so biased that he needs to be fired, or that Mueller is running a bad investigation at this point.

00:10:51.000 It does look, though, like he's fishing.

00:10:52.000 That's what it looks like to me.

00:10:53.000 It looks like Mueller is fishing and all the things he's bringing now are very far flung from the original charges.

00:11:00.000 Remember, what Democrats were saying is that what originally happened here is that Donald Trump and the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.

00:11:07.000 So far, there is zero evidence of that actual collusion that has been brought.

00:11:10.000 There's evidence that they wanted to collude.

00:11:12.000 There's no evidence of actual collusion.

00:11:14.000 None.

00:11:15.000 Okay, so that means the Democrats are not getting what they want at this point, and they're getting frustrated, and so they're looking for obstruction to kind of get them out of this, and I'm not sure that's going to happen.

00:11:24.000 Okay, well, in other news...

00:11:25.000 Nancy Pelosi is going fully insane. 1.00

00:11:28.000 The Democrats are going fully insane over this tax bill.

00:11:31.000 This new tax bill is out and we are going to see a final version of it.

00:11:35.000 They're now going to go to conference committee.

00:11:36.000 The House passed a version.

00:11:37.000 The Senate passed a version.

00:11:38.000 There are pretty significant differences.

00:11:40.000 The most significant difference is that the Senate version

00:11:42.000 We're good.

00:11:57.000 At very high prices in order to subsidize all the sick people who also want to buy individual insurance for themselves.

00:12:02.000 If I don't buy, the prices rise on the sick people.

00:12:05.000 The federal government is filling in that gap, so the federal government is actually subsidizing the healthcare for poor and ill people at a higher level than they were before the removal of the individual mandate.

00:12:15.000 That said, it's a very big move to get rid of the individual mandate in the Senate bill.

00:12:18.000 That does not exist, actually, in the House bill.

00:12:21.000 That said, we're about to go to conference committee on it.

00:12:23.000 They've picked the people for the conference committee.

00:12:25.000 This thing is going to pass the House. 0.99

00:12:26.000 It is going to pass the Senate.

00:12:27.000 There will be a tax reform bill, which is a major accomplishment for the Trump administration, and the Democrats are going completely nuts over it.

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00:14:20.000 Okay, so here is Nancy Pelosi. 0.74

00:14:22.000 The Botox, as I say, has seeped into her prefrontal cortex, and here she is explaining that we actually have reached Armageddon, like Bruce Willis, Ben Affleck, Liv Tyler, full Armageddon.

00:14:33.000 Here we go.

00:14:34.000 No, it is the end of the world.

00:14:35.000 This healthcare, the debate on healthcare is life-death.

00:14:38.000 This is

00:14:40.000 Armageddon.

00:14:41.000 This is a very big deal.

00:14:44.000 Because you know why?

00:14:45.000 There's really a very hard way to come back from this.

00:14:49.000 They take us further, more deeply into debt.

00:14:53.000 What can you do but raise taxes?

00:14:55.000 They contend that their gift to corporate America of a trillion and a half dollars, could be up to a trillion and a half dollars, will be paid for by the growth it creates.

00:15:06.000 And even their own people say, nonsense, not true.

00:15:11.000 It's Armageddon.

00:15:12.000 I love when Democrats talk about deficit spending.

00:15:14.000 As though, oh, we'll have to raise taxes.

00:15:16.000 Like Democrats care.

00:15:17.000 Walter Mondale in 1984 openly campaigned on raising taxes.

00:15:20.000 Barack Obama wanted to raise taxes.

00:15:22.000 Democrats always want to raise taxes.

00:15:23.000 They love taxes.

00:15:25.000 They should be overjoyed that deficit is being blown out because now they can make an argument for raising taxes.

00:15:30.000 They never want to cut spending.

00:15:31.000 They love spending.

00:15:32.000 Spending is their favorite thing in the entire world.

00:15:34.000 By the way, I love when she says this time again, and then she actually tweeted out that this was the worst bill in history.

00:15:38.000 I am not kidding. 0.86

00:15:39.000 Here's what Nancy Pelosi, this crazy loon bat, actually tweeted, quote, Well, good news, you don't have much. 0.95

00:15:43.000 And second off, 0.57

00:15:54.000 One of the worst bills to be brought to the floor in the history of the United States, I would love to hear Nancy Pelosi's thoughts on the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850, requiring people in the North to take slaves that had escaped their plantations and move them back to the South.

00:16:08.000 I'd like to hear her thoughts on Public Law 503, under FDR, that allowed him to intern the Japanese.

00:16:13.000 One of the worst bills in the history of the United States?

00:16:17.000 Talk about total lack of perspective.

00:16:19.000 It is sort of fascinating.

00:16:21.000 One of the things that I find interesting about Nancy Pelosi's take on this is it's the take of a lot of Democrats, which is that if the government gives up control over you, this is the end of everything. 0.92

00:16:30.000 Now, back during Obamacare days, after the Supreme Court decision that said that it was okay for the federal government to force you to buy things, I said this is a fundamental change in how the government works.

00:16:39.000 It was, because it was now the government telling you that they could force you to buy things.

00:16:42.000 They could force you to not buy things.

00:16:43.000 They could force you to buy things.

00:16:45.000 They had full control over you.

00:16:47.000 That was a major change.

00:16:48.000 Nancy Pelosi thinks that it's a major change to the country when I get to keep my own money.

00:16:52.000 If this doesn't provide a stark difference in how you think the country ought to run, what your vision for liberty is, I don't know what does.

00:16:59.000 But suffice it to say that this sort of nutty polarization is driving some really, really bad politics.

00:17:04.000 It's driving some really terrible politics.

00:17:06.000 And it's this polarization, I think, that is leading people to

00:17:09.000 Hunker down

00:17:28.000 And people on the left, people everywhere, have no capacity, none, for cognitive dissonance.

00:17:33.000 Cognitive dissonance is the term that means that you want to think one thing, but the facts are the other.

00:17:38.000 So how do you rectify that breach?

00:17:40.000 Right, so the facts right now are that Roy Moore, in all likelihood, credible accusations, that he molested young girls.

00:17:46.000 Then he molested a 14-year-old girl, then he molested a 16-year-old girl, then he had a habit of hanging out at the food court and dating younger women.

00:17:51.000 When I say dating, you can't really date a 16-year-old when you're 33, which is what Roy Moore is accused of doing.

00:17:57.000 There's one story where he legitimately called a girl out of her trigonometry class.

00:18:01.000 He called the high school and said, is whatever her name was, Betsy here. 0.83

00:18:04.000 They called her out of her class to get on the phone, because he was the DA, and he said, what are you up to right now?

00:18:08.000 And she said, trig.

00:18:10.000 Okay, like, the evidence is pretty solid against Roy Moore here, or at least as solid as it can be without there actually being a court case.

00:18:17.000 So here's what Republicans could do.

00:18:19.000 What Republicans could do is they could be honest.

00:18:21.000 I would disagree with this argument, but it would be an honest argument.

00:18:23.000 They could say, listen, I think Roy Moore probably did it, but we have to stop the Democrats.

00:18:27.000 The agenda is just too important.

00:18:29.000 We have to stop them, right?

00:18:30.000 As President Trump said during the last election cycle, we have no choice, right?

00:18:33.000 You just do that.

00:18:34.000 He just said we have no choice.

00:18:35.000 Roy Moore is the only guy on the ballot.

00:18:36.000 We'll deal with him later.

00:18:37.000 He's only gonna be in the Senate for four years or two years or however long the remainder of this term is.

00:18:41.000 So, whatever.

00:18:42.000 You know, you put him in.

00:18:43.000 Maybe you expel him from the Senate.

00:18:44.000 But we need that seat to remain Republican.

00:18:46.000 What you don't do is build Roy Moore up as some wonderful halcyon of morality.

00:18:51.000 But that is what the right has done because we cannot stand cognitive dissonance.

00:18:54.000 We just cannot.

00:18:55.000 Okay, there was even more evidence that came out yesterday.

00:18:57.000 Here is some

00:19:15.000 A success in anything you do, signed Roy.

00:19:18.000 Why is this important?

00:19:19.000 It's only important because the signature is precisely the same as the signature in the yearbook for the accuser who said that he tried to rape her when she was 16 years old.

00:19:26.000 Now there are a bunch of people online who are saying this is a forgery too.

00:19:28.000 It's all a forgery!

00:19:29.000 Everything's a forgery!

00:19:31.000 Okay, if you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

00:19:34.000 And I have a hard time believing that you think that Al Franken is guilty, or Harvey Weinstein is guilty, or Bill Clinton is guilty of Juanita Broderick.

00:19:42.000 There's more evidence about Roy Moore here than there was about Juanita Broderick.

00:19:46.000 And all the right believes Juanita Broderick, and most of the right does not believe the accusers in the Roy Moore case.

00:19:50.000 That's because people cannot stand cognitive dissonance.

00:19:52.000 Now the RNC has jumped in.

00:19:54.000 So this was totally unnecessary.

00:19:55.000 Roy Moore was probably gonna win anyway.

00:19:57.000 Even if you wanted him to win.

00:19:59.000 Roy Moore is probably going to win anyway.

00:20:00.000 So they made the worst move possible.

00:20:01.000 So the RNC withdrew its support last month, right, in light of the ongoing accusations.

00:20:06.000 And now Breitbart, of course, gets the note from the RNC that they now, quote, stand with the president and that they are going to openly back Roy Moore in this election cycle.

00:20:17.000 As you say, the president apparently called up Roy Moore's office and he said, go get him, Roy.

00:20:21.000 I only hope that he specified who the um was in that sentence because otherwise that's super awkward.

00:20:25.000 Go get him is not something you want to say to a prospective child molester.

00:20:28.000 In any case, the RNC came out and now they are saying that they are backing Trump's decision to endorse Moore.

00:20:34.000 They're not the only ones.

00:20:36.000 Orrin Hatch came out.

00:20:36.000 He said Trump had no choice but to support Moore.

00:20:38.000 Now, if you want to make the case again that you have to support him to stop the Democrats because of the polarization, because Nancy Pelosi is a kook, because the Democrats have gone so far off the road,

00:20:48.000 That we just have to oppose them no matter what?

00:20:50.000 If that's the case you want to make, then make that case.

00:20:52.000 Okay?

00:20:52.000 Have the courage of your convictions and just say, yeah, the guy's guilty.

00:20:55.000 I don't care.

00:20:55.000 The Democrats are just as bad.

00:20:56.000 Fine. 0.95

00:20:57.000 Voila.

00:20:57.000 Right?

00:20:57.000 Just do that.

00:20:59.000 Do that.

00:20:59.000 Be honest.

00:21:00.000 But that's not what people are doing.

00:21:01.000 People are finding ways to

00:21:04.000 Loop themselves in pretzels to pretend that Roy Moore is actually an indicator of how great evangelical Christians are.

00:21:09.000 He's the new Jesus and the pilots out there are trying to crucify him. 0.94

00:21:15.000 It's just insane.

00:21:16.000 It's just insane.

00:21:17.000 And if anybody says differently, then they're raked over the coals.

00:21:20.000 So Mitt Romney blasts Moore.

00:21:21.000 Right, Mitt Romney comes out with this tweet.

00:21:23.000 He tweets,

00:21:27.000 I agree.

00:21:28.000 I agree, because I have a thing called long-term interests.

00:21:30.000 I don't think it's good for the long-term interests of the Republican Party to have an accused, credibly accused child molester sitting in the United States Senate being used as a club to beat every Republican into submission.

00:21:39.000 You think Trump was a club used to beat Republicans into submission in 2016?

00:21:44.000 Okay, wait till they actually have a credibly accused child molester in the United States Senate, and you're a guy who's running for a contested seat in a contested purple state, like Virginia or Ohio or Florida, and suddenly they ask you, do you think Roy Moore should sit in the Senate?

00:21:58.000 No matter how you answer, it's in a campaign ad.

00:22:00.000 So here's what Romney tweeted.

00:22:05.000 He said, Now that last sentence is the one that you might want to argue with, right?

00:22:13.000 No vote, no majority is worth losing our honor, our integrity.

00:22:15.000 As I said before, I had a long conversation with my friend David Limbaugh the other day.

00:22:18.000 He takes the opposite side of this argument from me on Roy Moore.

00:22:21.000 And what he says is that's not true.

00:22:23.000 There are majorities, there are votes that we have to lose our honor for.

00:22:27.000 If it requires us to side with a bad guy in order to prevent a million abortions from occurring a year, then maybe you side with the bad guy.

00:22:33.000 Now, I don't think that's the case with Roy Moore.

00:22:35.000 I still have not heard the credible case that Roy Moore is going to be the vote that eliminates Roe v. Wade.

00:22:41.000 I really have not heard a specific case.

00:22:44.000 There's no loss of honor or integrity to backing a child molester.

00:23:03.000 So, Roy Moore responded in exactly kind.

00:23:05.000 I'll show you Roy Moore's response to this in just a second.

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00:24:45.000 Okay, so here's how Roy Moore responded to Mitt Romney.

00:24:48.000 I do get the feeling there are a number of Republicans who, whenever you say a thing like, you are compromising your morality to support a child molester, they can't stand the cognitive dissonance.

00:24:56.000 They can't say, you know what, you're right.

00:24:58.000 It is a compromise of my morality.

00:24:59.000 But, you would also be making a compromise of your morality to sacrifice a Senate seat to a guy who supports abortion until birth.

00:25:05.000 And then we can decide who's compromising the morality more and what the costs and benefits are.

00:25:09.000 And that's an honest conversation.

00:25:10.000 That's a conversation we could have when we both acknowledge that morality is being compromised.

00:25:14.000 But people on the Judge Roy Moore side refuse to acknowledge this compromise in morality.

00:25:19.000 So Moore writes back, either Mitt Romney has lost his courage or he doesn't care about truth anymore.

00:25:24.000 Sad day.

00:25:25.000 Has lost his courage?

00:25:26.000 Doesn't care about truth?

00:25:27.000 Judge Roy Moore changed his story again this morning.

00:25:29.000 Again.

00:25:30.000 He came out and he now says he doesn't know any of the accusers.

00:25:33.000 He admitted before he knew some of the accusers.

00:25:35.000 Then one of the accusers came forward and said, well, by the way, here's a note in my graduation book from Roy Moore.

00:25:41.000 He says, well, I don't know her.

00:25:42.000 I guess it's a forgery.

00:25:43.000 And then he says, America's reawakening was led by real Donald Trump, not you, Mitt.

00:25:47.000 Hashtag defeat the elite.

00:25:48.000 Hashtag drain the swamp.

00:25:50.000 Now, I love this appeal to Trump.

00:25:52.000 The appeal to Trump is the idea that you have to embrace all that is bad about Donald Trump in order to embrace the policies of Donald Trump, or to embrace the fact that there are Republicans who are willing to fight back.

00:26:03.000 I've always said that I like that Trump is willing to punch back.

00:26:05.000 My problem is that sometimes he punches a baby.

00:26:07.000 That's always been my problem with Trump.

00:26:09.000 Sometimes he punches the bad guys, and sometimes he punches a puppy.

00:26:12.000 You just don't know which it's going to be.

00:26:13.000 But the idea that Mitt Romney stands up and says, let's not vote for a child molester, and Roy Moore goes, well you're irrelevant because Trump.

00:26:20.000 If I were Trump, I'd be insulted by this.

00:26:22.000 If I were Trump, really, I would be.

00:26:24.000 I mean, I don't think Trump would be, because I think Trump likes praise, but the idea that America's reawakening was led by Trump, not you, Mitt, and that that reawakening means vote for the child molester, even if you make the case that Trump did something Mitt didn't, which I agree, okay?

00:26:35.000 Trump, again, punched back.

00:26:37.000 Mitt did not.

00:26:38.000 I fully agree with that.

00:26:39.000 But the idea that that means vote for the alleged child molester, that's dicey stuff at best. 0.99

00:26:45.000 And again, the defenses that are being just trotted out here by the Moore campaign are, shall we say, garbage. 0.99

00:26:52.000 Here is, to put it mildly, here's a Roy Moore spokesperson. 0.98

00:26:56.000 She was on CNN this morning with Poppy Harlow.

00:26:59.000 Her name is Jane Porter.

00:27:00.000 This was one of the worst interviews I have ever seen on national television, and that's saying a lot.

00:27:04.000 I've been here for the last year and a half.

00:27:06.000 Okay, this was just... Wow!

00:27:09.000 Okay, play it.

00:27:10.000 Poppy, we need to make it clear that there's a group of non-accusers that have not accused the judge of any sexual misconduct or anything illegal.

00:27:17.000 But when we're talking about Lee Korfman, even her own mother said that her report to the Washington Post that her life spiraled out of control after this alleged incident.

00:27:26.000 Well, actually, the court records say differently.

00:27:28.000 Okay, so she starts doubting all the accusers.

00:27:30.000 She also said here that they're basically criminals. 0.93

00:27:32.000 The accusers are criminals. 0.66

00:27:34.000 Not the guy accused of molesting children. 0.99

00:27:35.000 The accusers are criminals.

00:27:36.000 The best part of this was she let off the interview and Poppy Harlow is pregnant. 0.94

00:27:40.000 And so she said, congratulations on your pregnancy.

00:27:42.000 If Doug Jones had his way, he'd abort your baby.

00:27:44.000 She really led off the interview that way. 0.79

00:27:46.000 Here it is.

00:28:00.000 Janet, thank you for being with us, and I appreciate the congratulations.

00:28:03.000 Well, boom, right out the gate there.

00:28:05.000 I mean, that's a hell of a pro-life argument. 0.99

00:28:07.000 Holy crap. 0.98

00:28:08.000 So, I mean, but this is the argument that's being laid out, right? 0.99

00:28:11.000 Again, notice the cognitive dissonance.

00:28:12.000 You like Judge Moore's position on life.

00:28:14.000 I also like Judge Moore's position on life.

00:28:16.000 You don't like Judge Moore taking a sexual position on 14-year-old girls. 0.83

00:28:20.000 But, you can't square those two things.

00:28:22.000 So what you end up doing is you end up going into whatever this lady's name is, Jane Porterland, and you end up saying crazy things.

00:28:28.000 So now, I'm watching this online in real time, and again, you know, I see it happen on a regular basis, and it drives me up a freaking wall, okay?

00:28:39.000 Drives me crazy.

00:28:40.000 I'll host other shows, and we're calling their possible, and the entire board of calls will be, you're getting more wrong, more is totally innocent.

00:28:48.000 I want to see the evidence that more like, what's your evidence?

00:28:50.000 Lay it out.

00:28:51.000 And the evidence that she lays out is that she says that the yearbook was forged.

00:28:54.000 Yeah, that's because that's the best plan ever.

00:28:56.000 I hate these conspiracy theories.

00:28:57.000 I swear to God, I hate these conspiracy theories so much.

00:29:00.000 You know why?

00:29:01.000 Because I remember back in the last election cycle when Corey Lewandowski grabbed Michelle Fields by the arm hard enough to bruise her.

00:29:06.000 And then people suggested that there was some evil conspiracy hatched by Michelle Fields 0.99

00:29:10.000 And me, in order to get President Trump.

00:29:12.000 And what we had done is we had secretly planted Michelle Fields near President Trump so Corey Lewandowski would grab her arm and bruise it hard enough so then we could claim abuse.

00:29:19.000 And then we could claim that Corey Lewandowski should step down from the campaign.

00:29:22.000 We were just that nefarious.

00:29:23.000 We tempted Corey Lewandowski in our evil Jew ways. 0.99

00:29:29.000 This is such nonsense, okay? 0.95

00:29:31.000 There are eight accusers. 0.90

00:29:32.000 There are four accusers who have said that Roy Moore sexually treated them when they were underage.

00:29:37.000 Four.

00:29:39.000 They've been, every detail they say has basically been confirmed.

00:29:44.000 And we're sitting around talking about this like this is a real thing.

00:29:46.000 Again, you want to have an honest argument about whether to vote for more.

00:29:48.000 Here's the honest argument.

00:29:50.000 The costs of voting for more outweigh the benefits or the benefits of voting for more outweigh the cost.

00:29:53.000 That's the only honest argument.

00:29:54.000 But to pretend that you're not making any moral compromise whatsoever in voting for a credibly accused child molester that the RNC has to sink dollars in and pretend like nothing is wrong here is just gross. 0.75

00:30:03.000 It's just gross.

00:30:04.000 And it's being driven by the polarized politics.

00:30:05.000 It really is.

00:30:06.000 Because what you see from the Democrats is the same thing.

00:30:09.000 You're seeing it in the same way from the Democrats.

00:30:12.000 And what I mean by that is that when you look at the Democrats today, so John Conyers comes out, right?

00:30:16.000 John Conyers came out today and he finally said that he is retiring.

00:30:20.000 He didn't say he's stepping down.

00:30:21.000 He didn't say he's quitting.

00:30:23.000 He said he's retiring.

00:30:24.000 And not only is he retiring, because we live in a feudal fiefdom, he's handing over his seat to his son.

00:30:29.000 No, I'm not kidding.

00:30:29.000 He said he endorses his son.

00:30:31.000 So he's, apparently there's an accusation that he sexually groped a woman in church.

00:30:36.000 These are the people who run our country, folks.

00:30:38.000 These are the people.

00:30:39.000 And he says to his constituents, by the way, you should vote for my son.

00:30:41.000 Okay, that's not a punishment.

00:30:43.000 So the Democrats are leaving Conyers to basically appoint his successor in the royal fiefdom of Detroit.

00:30:49.000 And Al Franken is going to remain.

00:30:51.000 And Keith Ellison, who is almost the head of the DNC, and who was a fan of Louis Farrakhan and is an anti-Semite.

00:30:56.000 This guy is out there, on Democracy Now!

00:30:59.000 of all places, defending both Conyers and Franken, saying they should evaluate themselves.

00:31:02.000 And then you wonder why people are rallying to Roy Moore?

00:31:04.000 Because no one can stand the cognitive dissonance.

00:31:06.000 On the left, Franken and Conyers, they're fine because they're on the left.

00:31:09.000 And on the right, Roy Moore is fine because he's on the right.

00:31:11.000 And those other people are just so bad.

00:31:12.000 This is how morality dies.

00:31:14.000 Here's Keith Ellison.

00:31:15.000 Here's the thing.

00:31:16.000 I would ask every member of Congress, including those, to look inside their conscience and ask themselves just a few questions.

00:31:23.000 Can you be effective?

00:31:24.000 If you stood up your whole life to stand up for the rights of people, and both of them have, is it not a moment now where you apply some standards to yourself that you— Also, we'll just—we'll ask you to be a nice guy, right?

00:31:40.000 Yeah, this worked well for McConnell, who said that he wanted more to step down and then turned around and said he'll back more.

00:31:45.000 Yuck. 0.97

00:31:46.000 Okay, so we'll put all of that nasty news aside and the fact that no one has any moral scruples and everybody's garbage. 0.91

00:31:50.000 We'll put all of that aside for a moment and let's talk about some good news.

00:31:53.000 So the Trump administration is doing a couple of things that are really, really quite good.

00:31:57.000 So the first thing that they are doing that is quite good is that President Trump announced yesterday that he was going to change policy on public lands.

00:32:04.000 So first I want to show you a map of what public lands look like in the United States.

00:32:08.000 Okay, this is a map.

00:32:09.000 The red marks areas that have been marked off by the federal government and are in control of the federal government.

00:32:13.000 What you'll see is that in the east, the public lands are relatively limited, and then you move out west.

00:32:18.000 And what you see is the entire state of Nevada is public land.

00:32:21.000 The entire state of Nevada, the entire state of Utah is public land.

00:32:24.000 Half of New Mexico is public land.

00:32:26.000 Half of California is public land.

00:32:28.000 Half of Oregon is public land.

00:32:30.000 Basically, the federal government controls huge swaths of land.

00:32:33.000 This was never meant to be for public monuments.

00:32:35.000 The whole point of a public monument is that you were supposed to be able to go see it, not that they were going to fence it off and leave it.

00:32:40.000 So they fenced off the entire state of Nevada.

00:32:41.000 So President Trump came out yesterday, I think he was talking about the Bears Ears?

00:32:46.000 Bears Ears?

00:32:46.000 Bears Ears.

00:32:49.000 Bears Ears Memorial in Utah, and he said that they are going to restrict the amount of land the federal government is gobbling up, which is exactly right.

00:32:56.000 Okay, what Trump says here is exactly right, and it is good policy.

00:33:00.000 I will sign two presidential proclamations.

00:33:05.000 These actions will modify the National Monuments designations of both Bears Ears and Grand Staircase Escalante.

00:33:18.000 As many of you know, past administrations have severely abused the purpose, spirit, and intent of a century-old law known as the Antiquities Act.

00:33:31.000 Okay, and he's totally right about this.

00:33:32.000 Okay, so what Trump is doing here is totally necessary.

00:33:35.000 Now, the left will say, oh, he's opening all this up to exploration and drilling and mining.

00:33:40.000 Again, look at that map again, and what you will see is that the federal government... If you think they need that much land in order to prevent mining, then you are out of your mind.

00:33:48.000 The federal government, under President Obama particularly, did all of these land grabs.

00:33:52.000 It's one of the reasons why you had all of these conflicts with local ranchers and farmers who want to graze their cattle, and there's some tortoise that the federal government wants to protect by restricting the entire state.

00:34:01.000 This is a lot of the conflicts with the Bundy family in Nevada, for example.

00:34:04.000 The fact is that all of this land, a huge portion of this land, should be privatized.

00:34:08.000 It should not be left in public hands.

00:34:09.000 This was not the purpose of the federal government, protecting antiquities.

00:34:12.000 Okay, so that's good piece of news number one.

00:34:14.000 Good piece of news number two is a really huge piece of news, and that is it appears that the Trump administration is going to move the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.

00:34:21.000 Which is great, okay?

00:34:22.000 This is obvious.

00:34:23.000 Jerusalem has been and will be the eternal capital of the Jewish people and the state of Israel.

00:34:28.000 The idea that it was not, that it was Tel Aviv, which is a secular city that was founded in, like, the 1920s. 0.97

00:34:34.000 The idea that that is the capital of Israel is asinine. 0.89

00:34:36.000 It has never been the capital of Israel. 0.96

00:34:38.000 Jerusalem has always been the capital of Israel.

00:34:40.000 Trump is doing the right thing.

00:34:41.000 Now, you have the terrorist regimes, the Palestinian terrorist regimes, who have been voted for. 0.97

00:34:45.000 Literally the only people that Palestinians have ever voted for are all terrorists. 0.84

00:34:48.000 I mean, there haven't been that many votes, but every group they've ever voted for is a terrorist group. 0.54

00:34:52.000 Islamic Jihad, the Palestinian Authority, Fatah, which is the military wing of the Palestinian Authority, Hamas, which runs the Gaza Strip, they're now saying, oh, well, if you do that, we'll commit terrorist attacks.

00:35:02.000 Yeah, what else is new?

00:35:03.000 It's a day ending, and why?

00:35:04.000 Of course they're going to commit terrorist attacks.

00:35:06.000 This is what you do.

00:35:07.000 If the United States does not want those terrorist attacks to occur, they should do two things.

00:35:10.000 One, they should move the embassy to Jerusalem, and they should say, listen,

00:35:13.000 This is now the starting basis for negotiations.

00:35:15.000 It's up to Israel how they want to negotiate with this, but this is their capital.

00:35:18.000 So stop with these fantasies that we're going to push Israel to hand over its capital.

00:35:21.000 Not gonna happen.

00:35:23.000 Once that fantasy is off the table, a lot of the terrorism simply goes away.

00:35:27.000 Really, because all of the... Terrorism is driven by hope, not by fear.

00:35:30.000 Palestinians don't bomb things because they're fearful that they are going to lose.

00:35:34.000 They bomb things because they're hopeful they're going to win.

00:35:36.000 They're hopeful they're going to pressure the United States into doing things.

00:35:38.000 The next step is for Congress, if terrorist attacks occur, to pass the Taylor Force Act and withdraw funding from the Palestinian Authority.

00:35:44.000 We give them somewhere from $300-400 million American taxpayer dollars every year.

00:35:48.000 A huge swath of that goes to either terrorism or the pockets of the evil, murderous dictators who run that place.

00:35:57.000 We should just cut off the funding.

00:35:58.000 There's no reason your taxpayer dollars or mine should go to terrorist entities. 0.95

00:36:01.000 The Palestinian Authority is a terrorist entity.

00:36:03.000 This is a great move from Trump.

00:36:04.000 If this materializes, I'm sure we'll talk about this a lot more tomorrow because I want to lay out the full history of Jerusalem tomorrow in a little bit more fulsome way so that you understand that

00:36:14.000 All of the claims to the contrary about Jerusalem are just nonsense.

00:36:17.000 Serious changes are taking place across the Middle East.

00:36:19.000 Like, real serious changes.

00:36:21.000 In part, unintended consequences of bad Obama policy.

00:36:24.000 The Saudis are now working openly with the Israelis.

00:36:27.000 They're talking about how they might stop supporting the Palestinians.

00:36:30.000 Major changes taking place, and the Trump administration taking a leadership role in that.

00:36:33.000 So that is actually good stuff.

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00:38:09.000 Alrighty, time for some things I like and some things that I despise.

00:38:12.000 So, we shall begin with things I like.

00:38:14.000 So, there's a book by Ursula Le Guin that I read recently called The Lathe of Heaven.

00:38:18.000 I don't think I recommended this on the show, did I?

00:38:21.000 So this is, it's quite good.

00:38:23.000 It's a science fiction novel, which is an Ursula Le Guin, yeah, she's a science fiction writer. 0.95

00:38:28.000 It does lean left in some important ways.

00:38:31.000 But the book itself is very readable.

00:38:36.000 I don't like a lot of science fiction that is heavy on the jargon, and this book really is not.

00:38:42.000 The basic concept of the book is that there is a main character whose dreams are impacting reality.

00:38:49.000 Every time he dreams, the reality shapes around him.

00:38:52.000 I mean, the entire world shapes around him.

00:38:53.000 And then he has a psychiatrist, and the psychiatrist starts realizing that if he can control this guy's dreams, then he can shape the reality to

00:39:00.000 Melt what the psychiatrist wants. 0.89

00:39:02.000 It's all about minds and impact on the world.

00:39:04.000 And a lot of it is really good and really interesting.

00:39:07.000 The Lathe of Heaven by Ursula Le Guin.

00:39:09.000 Worth checking out.

00:39:09.000 Okay, other things I like.

00:39:10.000 So I actually have to give props to Joy Behar today.

00:39:13.000 Yes, Joy Behar.

00:39:15.000 One of the people whom I despise most in the world.

00:39:17.000 Joy Behar over on The View.

00:39:20.000 So yesterday I mocked her because she went totally wild. 0.89

00:39:23.000 She basically did the Oprah giving away cars routine. 1.00

00:39:26.000 But with regard to the Mike Flynn

00:39:28.000 So, um... Did anybody notice?

00:39:57.000 So on Friday's show, apparently I was guilty of premature evaluation.

00:40:01.000 I hear they have a pill for that now.

00:40:05.000 Here's what happened.

00:40:06.000 ABC News reporter Brian Ross released a story claiming that when Trump was a candidate, he told Michael Flynn to contact the Russians.

00:40:13.000 Ross later corrected himself, saying it was actually when Trump was president-elect.

00:40:18.000 Now, Brian has been suspended for a month.

00:40:21.000 Okay, so I may have to take that back.

00:40:23.000 Anytime you hear Joy Behar make a sexual joke, then you immediately have to take back whatever praise you were going to aim at Joy Behar, because that's just horrifying.

00:40:30.000 But at least she is correcting the record, so good for Joy Behar for doing that.

00:40:36.000 I have to admit, there's part of me that hopes that because I have now given just the merest of de minimis

00:40:43.000 Niceties to Joy Behar that now I'm invited on the show.

00:40:45.000 This is one of my lifelong dreams is to appear on The View.

00:40:47.000 I will admit it.

00:40:48.000 This is one of the things I would love best in life, because it would be epic television.

00:40:52.000 Let's be real, folks.

00:40:53.000 If I were on The View, who would not watch that?

00:40:56.000 Maybe no one would watch it, but I would be on The View, and it would be so much fun, and the clips would be incredible. 0.94

00:41:01.000 Yes, I would ask Whoopi Goldberg about rape rape.

00:41:03.000 I would ask so many great questions to all the members of The View.

00:41:05.000 Okay, I'm not gonna make my pitch for being on The View anymore.

00:41:07.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.

00:41:13.000 So as I mentioned yesterday, today in the Supreme Court, there was a big hearing over what they call the Masterpiece Cake Shop case.

00:41:18.000 The Masterpiece Cake Shop case is basically a gay couple went into the cake shop of a religious Christian. 0.97

00:41:24.000 The religious Christian said, sure, I'll give you a cake for your gay wedding, but I'm not going to put a cake top with two dudes on top of it, nor am I going to put any messaging about congratulations to Bob and Steve Aru on their wedding, because that's not in line with my religious feelings. 0.98

00:41:37.000 He also refuses to do the same thing for divorce parties.

00:41:39.000 He refuses to do the same thing 0.99

00:41:41.000 For anti-gay messages, if you go in there and you want to put on your cake, I hate gay people, he won't do that either. 0.94

00:41:48.000 So this guy has his own standards for where he will exercise his free speech rights. 0.96

00:41:54.000 And how he will use his business skills.

00:41:56.000 And the gay couple decided that they were going to target this guy because this was taking place in Colorado. 0.98

00:42:01.000 The idea that there are no bakeries in Colorado that will cater to gay people is fully crazy. 0.98

00:42:06.000 Of course, first of all, it's hard to find a cake shop across the United States that is not staffed by gay people. 0.96

00:42:11.000 He found the only cake shop in the United States that is staffed by a religious Christian. 0.93

00:42:16.000 And then they set this up.

00:42:18.000 Now, this happens on a regular basis, and sometimes it's good and sometimes it's bad, but it's never the narrative the media wants to tell.

00:42:23.000 So, in the case of Rosa Parks, which is a good case, right? 0.97

00:42:25.000 Rosa Parks had planned in advance to not sit at the back of the bus so that there could be a civil rights movement behind her, right? 1.00

00:42:32.000 It's something she coordinated with the NAACP in advance.

00:42:35.000 That's a good thing.

00:42:36.000 This was also coordinated in advance. 0.99

00:42:38.000 Here is the gay couple, the vindictive, vitriolic, nasty gay couple who decided that it was absolutely necessary to force this Christian baker to violate his own religious beliefs so they could have a cake topper that made them feel better about themselves. 0.99

00:42:49.000 I mean, as opposed to, you know, being on national television holding hands because you're gay. 0.99

00:42:52.000 I mean, clearly these people don't get enough attention and respect.

00:42:55.000 What they really need is a random religious baker to bake them a cake. 1.00

00:42:59.000 Go to hell. 1.00

00:43:00.000 I mean, it's just gross. 0.99

00:43:01.000 Here they are on MSNBC talking about what wonderful, kindly gentlemen they are, even as they destroy this guy's business.

00:43:06.000 The guy lost 40% of his business, the state tried to force him to retrain family members in sensitivity, all because he just wanted to exercise his business as a religious person exercises his business.

00:43:17.000 Just absurd. 0.97

00:43:18.000 Anyway, here are these jackasses on national TV. 0.99

00:43:21.000 When a business decides to open its doors to the public, they need to serve the public equally. 0.90

00:43:28.000 And, you know, this whole time that's what we've been asking for, is just to be treated equally in the public.

00:43:36.000 And the reason why we're here today is because we've heard so many stories of discrimination nationwide over the past five years.

00:43:45.000 And, you know, we're standing up for ourselves in this, but we're also standing up for all these other people.

00:43:51.000 Okay, so first of all, at the time that they did this, at the time that they did this, Colorado did not recognize same-sex marriages.

00:43:58.000 You understand what they're saying here?

00:43:59.000 What they're saying here is that the state of Colorado, at the time that they did this, did not recognize same-sex marriage, but the baker is supposed to recognize their same-sex marriage by law.

00:44:07.000 He's supposed to not only recognize it, but celebrate it by law at a time when the state of Colorado did not even recognize same-sex marriage. 0.75

00:44:13.000 Do you understand how insipid and insane this is?

00:44:15.000 First, I don't know what these guys do for a living.

00:44:17.000 I don't know what they do for a living.

00:44:19.000 But let's assume for a second that these douchebags, Charlie Craig and David Mellons, let's assume that they are speechwriters for a Democrat.

00:44:26.000 Okay, let's assume that.

00:44:27.000 I don't know if that's true or not.

00:44:28.000 They probably aren't.

00:44:28.000 But let's assume that they are for a second.

00:44:30.000 Could I walk into their office today and say, listen, you guys, you're great speechwriters.

00:44:34.000 This is your skill set.

00:44:35.000 You are just amazing at this.

00:44:37.000 I want you to write me a speech talking about how homosexual activity is a sin under Leviticus. 1.00

00:44:42.000 Can you write that for me?

00:44:44.000 Are they allowed to say no or are they not allowed to say no?

00:44:46.000 So according to their own light, they would not be allowed to say no, right?

00:44:49.000 Because they would then be rejecting services to me, even though they're services they don't want to provide.

00:44:54.000 It doesn't matter.

00:44:55.000 I want them to provide the services.

00:44:56.000 They'll give their services to anyone else, but they won't give their services to me.

00:44:59.000 That's a violation of my rights as a consumer.

00:45:02.000 See, the thing is that everyone who looks at this case knows this isn't about consumer rights.

00:45:07.000 This is about violation of free speech.

00:45:09.000 This is about violation of freedom of association.

00:45:12.000 This is about them wanting to force someone to greenlight their lifestyle.

00:45:16.000 That is what they are looking for.

00:45:17.000 And maybe you think their lifestyle should be greenlit.

00:45:19.000 That's your problem.

00:45:20.000 But it's not the religious baker's problem.

00:45:22.000 And guess what?

00:45:23.000 They don't have to greenlight his lifestyle either.

00:45:26.000 They don't have to... He's not looking.

00:45:28.000 The baker in this case, Jack Phillips.

00:45:29.000 He's not looking for them to green light his lifestyle.

00:45:32.000 He just wants to be left alone.

00:45:34.000 My sympathy and the moral impetus always lies with the person who wants to be left alone.

00:45:40.000 In the United States, when it comes to government action, the moral impetus always lies with the person who wants to be left alone so long as they are not harming anyone else or removing their rights.

00:45:48.000 These people do not have a right to the services of a religious baker.

00:45:50.000 They don't have the right to anyone's services.

00:45:52.000 You do not have the right to my services.

00:45:54.000 I don't have the right to your services.

00:45:56.000 If we don't respect the fact that we cannot demand crap from each other just because we want it, then what are we, three?

00:46:02.000 My son can demand things from me. 0.87

00:46:04.000 He's one and a half years old.

00:46:04.000 My daughter can demand things from me.

00:46:06.000 She's three and a half years old.

00:46:07.000 She's my kid, and she's a child.

00:46:09.000 But adults don't get to demand things of one another.

00:46:11.000 They don't have a right to.

00:46:12.000 And these people do not have a right to the artistic skill of a religious baker. 0.57

00:46:17.000 They do not.

00:46:18.000 Okay, time for a brief deconstructing of the culture.

00:46:21.000 I'm not sure that we actually grabbed the trailer for this, but there's a new movie coming out called The Post.

00:46:26.000 This movie looks absolutely insufferable.

00:46:29.000 It is with Meryl Streep and Tom Hanks, so it's got the greatest of the great actors.

00:46:34.000 By the way, I'm unpopular in my opinion here, just like most of my opinions, but Meryl Streep and Tom Hanks, I believe, are both wildly overrated as actors.

00:46:43.000 I think Meryl Streep is mechanical. 0.96

00:46:45.000 The famous quote, I think it's from Katharine Hepburn about Meryl Streep, is the problem with Meryl Streep is you can always see the gears turning.

00:46:50.000 And that's right.

00:46:51.000 She's technically perfect, but you never feel it.

00:46:54.000 It's like, oh, that's how a human should cry.

00:46:56.000 But it's never like, oh, I feel so bad for that person.

00:46:58.000 That person's crying.

00:46:59.000 It's always like, oh, that's pretty good crying right there by Meryl Streep.

00:47:01.000 Boom.

00:47:02.000 And Tom Hanks has not been good since Big.

00:47:03.000 Sorry to break it to you.

00:47:04.000 Tom Hanks is a better comic actor than he is a dramatic actor.

00:47:07.000 Tom Hanks in Cast Away is one of the best comic performances of all time.

00:47:10.000 If you ever want to have fun, do Comic Bits on Cast Away, which is a hilarious movie.

00:47:14.000 I don't know why everybody sees that as a dramatic sad movie.

00:47:16.000 I think it's really funny.

00:47:17.000 I mean, it's a guy living alone on an island talking to a volleyball.

00:47:19.000 It's really frickin' funny.

00:47:21.000 So that's it.

00:47:21.000 So, in any case, this movie is really... It's gonna be insufferable.

00:47:27.000 It's basically about how the Washington Post... The Washington Post is just... They're the most heroic people.

00:47:34.000 Now...

00:47:35.000 You know, we already had this movie about the Boston Globe with regard to taking on the Catholic Church's sexual abuse.

00:47:40.000 I liked Spotlight.

00:47:41.000 I recommended it on the show.

00:47:42.000 I thought it was a good movie.

00:47:43.000 But this idea that the Washington Post, they were in danger.

00:47:46.000 They were going to be jailed.

00:47:47.000 The founder of the Washington Post was going to be jailed.

00:47:50.000 Here's the description.

00:47:50.000 A cover-up that spanned four U.S.

00:47:52.000 presidents pushed the country's first female newspaper publisher and a hard-driving editor to join an unprecedented battle between journalists and government.

00:48:00.000 Okay, like, do we need any more self-congratulatory tomes from Hollywood?

00:48:03.000 Do we need them, like, the journalists celebrate Hollywood, Hollywood celebrates the journalists, blah blah blah.

00:48:07.000 I haven't seen the movie yet, so I'm not going to critique the historical veracity of it.

00:48:10.000 All I will say is that there are two types of bias in Hollywood and the media.

00:48:14.000 One is bias with regard to the material that they portray, right?

00:48:17.000 Actual lies that they tell on screen.

00:48:19.000 And the second is selection bias.

00:48:21.000 And the second is the selection bias.

00:48:23.000 What do they choose to cover?

00:48:24.000 Where do they choose to put Tom Hanks and Meryl Streep?

00:48:27.000 Do they choose to do a movie about Whitaker Chambers?

00:48:29.000 No, they would never do a movie about Whitaker Chambers, right?

00:48:31.000 That's one of the great stories, by the way, in American history that a movie has never been made about.

00:48:35.000 An American newspaper editor, right, Time magazine editor, Whitaker Chambers, testifies

00:48:40.000 That a member of the U.S.

00:48:41.000 government, a high-ranking member of the U.S.

00:48:42.000 government at the U.S.

00:48:43.000 Department of State, who is partially responsible for the garbage Yalta agreement between Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Stalin and Churchill, that that guy, Alger Hiss, was actually a Soviet spy.

00:48:53.000 And it turns out not only was he a Soviet spy, but Whitaker Chambers actually got microfilm that was supposed to be passed to Alger Hiss.

00:48:59.000 He had to hide it in a pumpkin patch.

00:49:01.000 Like, that's an amazing story.

00:49:01.000 Has that ever been on film?

00:49:02.000 No.

00:49:03.000 But we get yet another story about how democracy dies in darkness and yada yada and the media are so great.

00:49:09.000 So this election bias is irritating.

00:49:11.000 This is one of these movies that is definitely aimed at Oscar bait.

00:49:14.000 I hate Oscar bait.

00:49:15.000 So some of the other movies that are Oscar bait this year, there's the Army Hammer flick about homosexuality and some 26-year-old guy sleeping with a 17-year-old boy, which I guess is wonderful. 0.93

00:49:25.000 That's winning the LA Film Choice Award.

00:49:27.000 I always... I was going to last year.

00:49:30.000 I'm not sure I did.

00:49:31.000 I will do this year, the intersectional Oscars.

00:49:33.000 And I'll predict Oscar outcome by intersectionality.

00:49:36.000 By which film and which performance is the most intersectional?

00:49:41.000 Pretty accurate most of the time.

00:49:43.000 You could have called Moonlight last year.

00:49:44.000 That one was a pretty easy call. 0.98

00:49:45.000 I feel like The Post is going to lose out to something about victimized black people or victimized gay people. 0.95

00:49:50.000 That's usually the way that it works in Hollywood. 0.69

00:49:52.000 Unless they're on a rotating system, in which case it might be The Journalist again.

00:49:55.000 Okay, well we'll be back here tomorrow and we'll talk about whether this big move on Jerusalem happens or whether it does not and what that means.

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The FBI Screw-Ups: Incompetence Or Malice? | Ep. 430

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